- Goodbye, big poster (crowd exclaims). Hello, little post (crowd exclaims). Hey, guys, welcome back to
my very first Twitch stream, prerecorded and edited
to be put on YouTube. So I don't know if you guys noticed, but there's been a bit of a
pattern developing lately, and it's not a good one. It all started in January when this clip went viral
of a Twitch streamer furious at the idea of going a few minutes without making any money. - About how I need subs, and to get the stream going, if you like the content, blah, blah, blah, how that results in zero subs, there are regulars here. $5 a month. $5 dollars. $5 to provide for the
content that you're watching. Look at, I have a wall of non subs. This is fucking actually
really heartbreaking, because it's like people
just really have no, really don't respect me
as a content creator. - Predictably, this
sparked outrage on Twitter. People made YouTube videos about it. And despite the overwhelming
majority opinion that this girl was in the wrong for doing this, it was probably the most
attention she'd ever gotten. Interesting how creating
outrage will do that, which brings us to culprit number two. This one from just last month. - I'm unemployed, so basically all my money
goes to bills and food, or I would support you. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Uh-huh. It's $5. Being like, "I'm broke. I can't afford to sub." That doesn't really track. What you mean to say is, "I'm so irresponsible with my money. I can't support the
entertainment that I enjoy." (laughs) That's what that is. - Guys, $5 isn't that much money. That's why I'm begging you for it. But once again, more Twitter outrage, more viral YouTube videos about it, and the internet coming together once more to shame this
self-righteous person, as they should, but the pattern continues. - 500 Subs. We gotta get to 500 subs. It's the only way I'm
committing to a stream schedule. We're at 187. Like, I don't know what to tell ya. - All right. Now I'm starting to get suspicious. Why is Amanda Cerny, an internet veteran
making the same mistakes as these other streamers? Is she not aware of the backlash they got, or even if being slightly misconstrued, how her words could have the same effect. Or is she extremely aware of that, and that's the reason she did this? You see, like a lot of people, I've been aware of Amanda
Cerny for a few years now. She was a former
Viner-turned-Instagram comedian, turned total afterthought in my brain. But now thanks to this clip, and the subsequent tweets about it, I'm not only reminded of
the fact that she exists, but, also, now I know that
she's Twitch streaming. A lot of people know that now. All it takes is one
trip to her Social Blade to see how many people know that now. Could it be that given the
current climate of the internet, that the most effective marketing tool for your Twitch stream is
to do this exact thing. It's working for her so far, and thank God it was. If it wasn't for this
clip being passed around, I would've missed out on
some of the best Red Dead 2 gameplay I've ever seen. (Amanda gasps) - I killed my horse? - Now, if we're to take these
three clips at face value and compare them, this is by far the most defensible one. I can kind of understand what she means by saying her words were
taken out of context. I think maybe someone was just asking her like what her schedule is, and all she's saying is, "I want to have a consistent schedule, but until this becomes a
viable source of income for me, I'd be better off using my time to make money in other ways," which is a fine sentiment. It's more so the way it came off, she has this sense of exasperation, like, "Guys, I've been
streaming for four days already, and only 187 people have
agreed to give me money?" So a lot of people watch that and think, "Shit, you're lucky to
be in that position." People stream for years
without any subscribers. They just do it because they like it. So when people like Amanda Cerny, an already very rich person, go to Twitch, and wonder why people aren't immediately throwing their money at them, it just comes off as
entitled and out of touch. You've only streamed like 10 times. Have you ever considered that maybe you're just
not that good at it yet, and it will take some
practice before people want to reward you for just putting forth the bare minimum effort. I feel like most people, especially already established
creators on the internet, assume Twitch streaming
is like the easiest thing in the world. Oh, you just sit there and
play video games all day? I could do that. But the streamers people watch, the ones I watch consistently, are really fucking good at it. They're funny and entertaining. They put on a show, or they're just extremely good
at the game they're playing, or they have a skill that
most people don't have, that's fun to watch. Maybe if you created a fun environment, or were better at the game you're playing, or even if you just
interacted with your chat instead of staring at your phone every time a cut scene comes on, people would see the
value in spending money to support your stream. The quickest way to make people angry is to act as if you're
entitled to their money by merely existing in front of them. Like, they should be honored
to have the privilege of financially supporting you. Also, what a huge slap in the face to the people who already did subscribe, as if their support means nothing. But the fact of the matter is, whether she meant to stir the pot or just did so by accident, this is the best
advertising for her stream she could have possibly asked for. I wouldn't be surprised
if she already doubled her 500 sub goal by now just by saying something dumb. Speaking of numbers, I wanna go back and talk
some more about InvaderVie, who is also doing just fine despite saying much worse things. - "That's so toxic, especially when people
are losing their jobs." It really isn't. - One half-assed apology later and her army of white knights continues to grow stronger by the day. Even during that stream,
she was getting new subs left and right. Now, if you guys don't mind, I wanna go ahead and
break down her apology, because I think it's a real
masterclass in saving face. - Hi. You're here right now because you've seen a clip of me. - Mm-hmm.
- And you're very angry about what I said in that clip.
- Sure am. - What I said was toned deaf--
- Uh-huh. - Insensitive.
- Uh-huh. - And stupid.
- Uh-huh. - The clip that you saw does
not represent my true feelings. - Wait, what? - I expressed opinions
that I do not hold at all. I said things that I don't mean, and they were vile. - Wait, hold on, you can do that? You can go off on a whole
strongly opinionated tangent, and then just say, well,
actually that wasn't my opinion. That's why I said it, 'cause it wasn't what I felt. - What I said it was wrong in any context, but especially in the context of a global pandemic.
- Uh-huh. So next, she opens the
floor for questions, and then struggles to answer
any of them and just moves on. - I want to talk to you. I
want to hear your voices. I want to answer the
questions that you have. "With all due respect, why didn't you apologize
before the clip blew up?" Okay. (dial-up modem screeching) That's a difficult question to answer. I wish that I could talk about it all day, and answer each and every
one of your questions. - You can. - I wish that I could give
you a satisfactory answer so that you could see who I really am. - So do that. - But that's not what this is about. - That's not this apology is about? It's not about apologizing? - I'll BRB. Just give me a quick moment, everybody. - And that's the whole apology. It was like eight minutes of her saying she didn't actually mean what she said, and she wants to take this opportunity to learn and grow from it, which is why she's gonna
spend the next three hours ignoring questions and acting defensive. - Great memes in chat, everybody. I like seeing the same five
comments repeated 800 times. - It's so funny. It took her like four days to apologize, and then about 10 minutes for
her to get mad at everyone for bringing it up. I think this person's comment that I saw kind of just
sums it up perfectly. So at this point I was pretty
invested in the situation, and I had to dive deeper, especially when she said this. - Thank you, Upright Lion, for understanding that an entire person cannot be summed up in a 30-second clip. - That's an important detail to point out. See, Vie wants us to think
that all of her fuck-ups were contained within
that one 30-second clip that went viral. However, that's not true, and I know that, because for some reason, the VOD from that stream
is still up on her channel. You can still go watch the entire thing. Don't worry though. You don't have to do that, because I have nothing
going on in my life, and I already did. It starts off small
with some not-so-subtle guilt trips here and there. - "How're you doing, Vie? I would be better if you sub to me. "Sometimes I just listen
to you while I'm working." Damn, I hope that while
you're working extra hard, and you're cashing in that
fucking money, money, money, you also throw a sub my way. Thank you all of you for subbing. Thank you all of you for
being reasonable people. - But as it goes on, it gets more and more manipulative. - Well, yes, streamers do provide hundreds
of hours of content for free. If anything, you do owe them. They don't really owe you anything. - No, no, no, no. That's not true. Nobody owes you anything. People watching your stream, they're watching the
ads before your stream, they're boosting your
stream in like the rankings just by being there. The more viewers you have, the more likely it is
other people are gonna see. They don't really owe you a subscription. Twitch is a free platform. If they wanna watch
you for free, they can. And what she said is especially
false too the other way, where it's like, once people are giving you money, they're paying a subscription fee to enable you to make content, you do owe them now. You owe them the content
that they paid for. But as bad as that statement
was, it only gets worse. - "That's so toxic, especially when people
are losing their jobs." It really isn't. And if you believe it is, then I imagine that you
simply don't understand how this platform works, and I encourage you to
get more perspective. - How can someone be so wrong and so condescending at the same time? At this point, even her fans, the people who are
watching in this moment, started questioning her logic, but she would not back down. She would not admit
that maybe she's wrong. - "Some people work and struggle and they don't have $5 still." You're obviously not the
person that I was speaking to, but you seem so self-centered
that you thought I was talking specifically to you. I wasn't. I was speaking
to the group, honey. These are exquisite contributions to a very good conversation. And these people in chat who
are making these comments do not appear as immature
childish cheapskates whatsoever. (laughs) They're just sitting here masturbating as hard as they possibly can, as quietly as they can, because their parents are in the next room talking about how
disappointed they are in them. And they're like, "Why
would I ever pay for this when this slut's just
giving it away for free?" (laughs) - What the fuck? The best part of that clip is
what happens right after it. She's just sitting there giggling
at her own hilarious joke. And she stops to look at her phone. And I think sees a text from someone, who's probably like, "Dude,
what the hell are you doing?" - Oh my goodness. - That instant shift in her
facial expression is priceless. But it doesn't affect her
for more than a few seconds. Because then she goes right
back to her echo chamber, where she has no reason to believe that she's saying anything wrong. Most of her audience is
not fazed at all by this. She could probably be beating
them to death with a shovel, and they would still just
comment on how hot she is. "I think I love you." And the ones who are
challenging what she's saying are far outnumbered by the
people who are commenting things like this. - "I never watched a person
that's so nice to people that they don't even know. Wow, you are so nice." - What? Are we watching the same stream? (Vie screams) It doesn't matter though. She's so confident in her
ability to mentally overpower her loyal horde of Simps, that she can just blatantly
contradict herself. - Well, I never said if
you don't have $5 for me, you should be out there working. I didn't actually say that. If you don't have $10, you probably don't have
time to watch Twitch, because you should be working. "But you did say that." No, Worst Gamer Ever. You definitely heard that, but that is not actually what I said. You should be working. I didn't say if you don't have $5 from me, you're irresponsible with your money. I'm so irresponsible with my money. I didn't say if you don't have $5 from me, you're irresponsible with your money. If you don't have $5 to
sub to a Twitch streamer that you watch, you're probably irresponsible
with your money. - Could've just deleted the VOD, and I wouldn't have been
able to edit that together, but that's your fault. Her argument doesn't end there though. She really wants you
to give her some money. So she starts comparing
her stream to the cost of other things to show
you how valuable it is. - It's less expensive
than a Netflix account, and you're not stuck
with a number of screens. If you pay for one Twitch subscription, that goes against that, that will transfer to every platform that you wanna watch Twitch on. - I'm sorry, guys. One second. Hold on, I just gotta... It's gotta be around here somewhere. No, it's not. Sorry, guys. I was just trying to find the logic here. Your subscription is more
valuable than Netflix, because people can watch
you on multiple devices? Last time I checked, Netflix
has like a billion movies, doesn't beg me for money, and there's no free version of it. I can watch your stream for free. (Vie screams) Now, here's the thing. I know that I don't have to
be as annoyed by this as I am. And I really wanted to try and give her the benefit of the doubt. Maybe she was just
having a really bad day, and she said some stupid
shit because she was angry. I've gotten angry and said stupid shit. I don't think that
defines you as a person. So every couple of days
I would check to see if she was streaming, and if she was I'd pop
in for like 20 minutes here and there, just to get a sense of the vibe. And my first takeaway was
that she seems very smart. Although she also likes to
tell people that she is. - It's so funny, people ask, they're like, "How do you know so much? Like how are you able to
speak on so many topics?" And then they ask, "And do
you watch all these TV shows?" The answer is the same. I think one of the reasons
why I'm able to speak on so many different types of topics, is because I don't spend
a lot of time watching TV. - But I think she's extremely well-spoken. I think she does a good job of moving the conversation along, especially considering
how most of the replies are just utter nonsense. And I actually felt myself
starting to pull away from my frustration, but then a few minutes into
one of the first live streams I clicked on, she brought up the situation again, and said this. - A lot of people were, again, talking about like how I should get a job, or I should work. I thought it was quite funny, because a lot of the streamers who were saying things like that, I've had more jobs than they have. I've worked harder than they have. A lot of them are just
professional streamers who have been gaming since
they were 16, 17, 18 years old. I've actually been working
since I was at age, and I wasn't doing it
in front of an audience. It wasn't glamorous
streaming work. Trust me. - Okay, first of all, I scrolled through Twitter at the time. I didn't see any big streamers telling her to get a real job. The tweets I saw all had
some pretty valid points, so I don't know what you're talking about. But hold on, I thought your whole
reason for demanding subs was that you deserve people's money 'cause you work so hard, right? And streaming is not as
easy as people think. - The more proficient
you are at something, the easier it looks. - But when other people
have the same job as you, for them, it's just a
glamorous streaming work. My God, the hypocrisy. It's incredible how she's tried
to shift the narrative here, despite having no solid
ground to stand on, which makes me think, is this, Is this all part of it too? Let's recap. First she demands that
people give her money, which they do. Video of that blows out, so she apologizes to save face, but welcomes all the brand new viewers. Some of them are only there
to leave hate comments, because of what she said, which is unfortunate, but, of course, she uses
it as an opportunity to play the victim, which leads to even more people
donating and subscribing, because they want to cheer her up. And with that, the cycle is complete. Well done, Vie. Well done. And guys, I know. I know. If this was all bait, I fell for it so hard. I'm like the world's dumbest fish. - Is that a T-bone steak
attached to a sharp object? I'm not falling for that. But I do like steak. In conclusion. Don't do this. Don't try and guilt people
into giving you their money, and don't berate them when
they give you a valid reason why they can't. If people wanna support you, and they have the ability to support you, more often than not, they're going to support you. Also, guys, seriously, don't go and harass
anyone that I talked about in this video. If you're mad, I get it. I'm mad too, clearly. But I'm giving you an open invitation now to just vent about it
down in the comments, but please don't go to
someone's live stream, and comment inflammatory shit just to try to get a reaction out of them. That's not cool. To end this video on a positive note, I would like to shout out
some of my favorite streamers, 'cause I do watch Twitch almost every day. Number one, Chris Melberger. He's the GOAT, in my opinion. He's so consistently entertaining. Eddy, Gus, Jake, they're all streaming
pretty regularly now, and I think they're killing it, not just because they're my friends, although that's definitely part of it. Jenna and Julian are always great. Thomas Middleditch is on Twitch now? What the hell? I love that guy. Also, if you haven't, go watch his Netflix
special with Ben Schwartz. It's the hardest I've laughed in months. There are so many
wonderful people on Twitch, and I hate that the ones who abuse it might lead people to think that it's just a cesspool
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extremely inconsistent, and thank you to hat for covering my hair. I'm gonna go sit down again. I filmed that part three days ago. I don't know who I'm trying to fool. Thank you guys so much for
watching today's video. If you enjoyed it, remember, as always, to please PayPal me a
$1000 cash right now. Do it. Okay? Do it. I need it. Just kidding. You guys
don't owe me anything. Thank you so much for watching my videos. You have given me a career simply by looking at me. Seriously. That's all you had to do. I've got a couple more
videos coming out this month that will be more on the lighter side. Sorry, if this one was just
more ranty and made you angry. I just like to do these from time to time. But anyway, stay safe out there. Goodbye.
that one chick's attitude is so gross
So do these ladies expect to be paid for just... Being there?
Like, what do they do?
I couldn't make it all the way through cause that chick in the middle was so manipulative and evil sounding! She uses her articulation and vocabulary to mask some really, really cruel and manipulative speech. She'd ruin your life and tell you it's good for you if it benefited her.
Years ago when people asked for money from making internet videos they got so much shit for it. Now Patreon and Twitch subs are big business. There are people that deserve to be paid but most of them aren't that good.
It's weird how begging for money on the internet is now alright if you do it correctly.
So, er.. Is twitch just like camgirls that don't get naked but you still pay them?
Fair play to them for pulling off the best con in the history of the world.
And to all the guys giving them money. Have some self respect, jesus christ. You're pathetic.
Owning a vagina and no sense of shame seems like one of the best financial options available
Youtubers/streamers remind me of those sleazy people that hit on everyone stating it's a numbers game.
It always starts with a 2 minute lifeless intro to desperately prolong the interaction. What's your number? (Like and subscribe), check this out it's so cool (here's a link to my merch store), tell your friends about me (share), and you want to fuck? (Donate and don't forget to ring the bell!).
I'll start caring when people are forced to give them money. I don't blame anyone for cornering an existing market.
is this guy John Mulaney's voice double?