Wherever Attention Goes, Can It Leave the Infinite?

[Music] [Applause] [Music] [Applause] [Music] - [Music] you No [Music] Krishna Krishna [Music] um [Music] [Music] you hurry [Music] - nah [Music] Krishna [Music] Krishna Krishna [Music] honey honey [Music] Oh Hare Krishna uh degree creational Krishna howdy Krishna but a Krishna Krishna Krishna [Music] honey [Music] put it on hurry it up Robert [Music] Trishna [Music] hurry Krishna [Music] Krishna Krishna [Music] [Music] Oh namaste welcome everyone to satsang today welcome all who are joining via broadcasting for today's satsang invitation is to rise above the clouds of thought activity and the energy field of mind flow I don't only saying rise above pertaining to your attention and not to yourself yourself is Beyond and above Hardesty not above in terms of distance but above and beyond in terms of subtlety and I hope we are coming now today in the end of the third segment of this period of satsang and so I know and feel that there's a field of more grounded understanding more people are more established in the pointing of course it would be beautiful if everyone leave at least having crossed over in understanding by recognizing what is meant by awareness not just mentally but experientially but let's see okay thank you [Music] yes no speak with you for a moment [Music] we have heard you before but being here is very different now I I mean being on the spiritual part I have done lot of self work I had the grace to be in the presence of many masters but I always feel when I'm there in their presence it's it's very beautiful feeling but when I come out of it I feel like a bottomless container where in which it's it's there at the experience at the feeling level but I am NOT able to remember the teachings it's I I know it's there in the feeling but I if if someone asked me you know after the session what has been your biggest learning I it just completely feels that I'm whitewashed I I try myself I tried a lot to focus on what is being said but in terms of whitewashed is better than student please listen because you say when I came away from the Mandir satsang whatever I feel whitewashed so I would like you to go and be in that place you're speaking about whitewashed means what this nothing which is which remains in that moment yes yes it was that after barely a feeling or a scene did you you for my question yes at this moment it's more like a feeling feeling yeah which when you're whitewashed who was there to experience whitewash I granted I accept that what in the way that it is understood here the whitewash would mean that you when you followed by saying you couldn't really remember if someone asks what was the teaching you would not be able to to speak about it I say that that is because you're beyond if you speak about it it's a kind of mental recollection or something but whitewashed is more the experience the experience no mean empty empty student lands but emptiness is the student learns but emptiness is you said also you use a term you felt like a bottomless container which means anything you put in goes out you're not a container only fake container and you don't have to be container this I will just want to come back here because you may have missed something you see something feels empty perhaps there's an idea that in going to satsang or going to sit with the Masters and so on that you would come away with something please listen because we are speaking about something now it's a universal perhaps misconception we probably fear we have gone away and we if someone were to ask you so what did you get today and your something doesn't want to feel foolish like I didn't get anything at all you if you say well I just feel I don't know what I feel I'm just I'm not even here to be honest in the way that I thought I was that is a profound recognition and not merely a feeling you see if you say it's just a feeling then it calls for someone who had the feeling and feelings cannot stay even the most beautiful feeling even the most beautiful feeling will come and go so if something says it's only a feeling then you keep the one who had the experience and we are back again in the same old time identity if you recognized know that wait a second I am but not in the old sense that I can speak about my history or my past or anything at all I'm empty of all things this is what this age is this is what this age is they would not call it oh I'm having this experience they are the experience you may say they are the experience and the experience is no difference but if it is recalled as an experience it would mean that oh there was such a wonderful experience and you will talk about them in the same way that you speak about visiting the Masters how you can sit with so many masters and survive you are not meant to survive sitting with the master if you survive it mean you escape you see so the emptiness is there maybe someone or to have told you darling when you like this don't mix with people right now go home and get get get under get in your room lock yourself in for a moment and marinate in your in your being put your hands together and be just in remain in this feeling of emptiness or gratitude whatever it is emptiness just stay and see if it passed if emptiness is a feeling see if emptiness is a feeling who is there to make it the feeling is it so it is not use not school it's not you go there and you learn you get certificate there is no enlightenment certificate and nobody to receive it so when we go and you listen then something what it what is taken away is taken away even the dependence on knowledge the attachment to identity all of these is being whitewashed your idea you have of yourself not needed you are not an idea surpass idea wiped but something inside feel know maybe this is not this is not what should happen I should at least be able to come back and talk about how wonderful the experiences yes and then you give it away meaning give it away you cannot give it to when somebody get it you give it away you missed you missed it somehow is it it's subtle things it's not about you know some objective comparison of things you are the one subject without an objective comparison easy this someone should have told you before when you go to satsang with the urge and the intention to surrender or to be absorbed in the truth if you have that insight or courage maybe say like this perhaps people go to gatherings and temple masks or whatever a church whatever the mountain cave whatever to get something maybe this is it we go to get something we expect to go there and come back after two months and you know as I got it but actually you go there to die to the lie in you and this must be shown because it's a very subtle thing but it can make the difference between heaven and hell actually it's subtle understanding is it we only feel that you know there must be somebody there to receive something and that even if we thought about it you may feel that somehow if I'm emptied and I'm left with nothing to take home even I myself am taken a washed-out then I mean what is the point to disappear of course it's not going to attract the mind because for sure your mind is going to come to a temple he's going to come to satsang you're gonna make sure you know I'm not gonna say because sometimes you may say the sattvic mind is that state of mind and identity that is recognized the auspiciousness of the darshan of grace or something like that so there's no such thing as mind by itself mind cannot exist by itself mind is a relationship that you the beingness consciousness as shaped that you belief I am this my mind is a an energy that come and it's useful in practical things of course mind is all of this and the perceiving the interpreting all of this is mine but when we are confused about our identity then the mind will not help you it will keep you in personhood it is functioning largely for personhood the mind of the gianni or the sage is not called mind anymore it's just an aspect of the self which is what it really is [Music] so as you spoke you see just few words I heard whitewash I heard you know bottomless container so if these are understood in the correct manner you would you're you would not you would not be here in the same idea of yourself as you believe we feel that if you are totally removed now you are totally removed what is untrue in you is removed but we feel that's all of us no it's not all of you you are the self you're the self that somehow has picked up you know some what you may call your pick we picked up some some something which is not completely true and this we become attached to it and believe that we did this is also our selves and satsang is just to wake up to the truth that that is not you because it has a strong influence on who you take yourself to be that's it and now you say you've been with so many masters and I don't want you to be having a tour of masters master shopping it has to end somewhere now otherwise maybe when you are you know seventy years old I met master meeting a master should turn you into master I'm not too much myself I I mean I'm always in awe of my master I'm not able to collapse that image I mean yeah you cannot do it the identity you're holding presently is incapable of doing that of accomplishing that a deeper reality with the new is able to see that the present standpoint that you are addressing yourself as that that is imagined but there is some attachment to the identity so you will not fully want to transcend it or lose it you have some imagined treasures there or some attachments there that you're not sure if you have the discernment to let the things which are not true away I understand that I tell my stories well I'm still attached to my stories I'm not able to let go of that I think fear of it's what scares me then yes that position that you're speaking from and you are accepting that you're speaking from yourself is that position reliable is it is it stable no no easy but nevertheless there is a strong relationship with that that concept of yourself and because of that some fear will be there because you know that there it is an incomplete State and that somehow to transcend that state when you are of some treasures there you won't be full heartedly wanting to do that it's a misconception also because transcending doesn't mean you throw away yourself because you have to remember you are the self there but it's like there's a mask in front and the mask in front is the idea you have of yourself you're living in the mask of yourself you follow this so what to do you say how can i I don't know what to do still it is the mask speaking behind the mask is a greater intelligence but rarely seen really we are we aware of that we're speaking from our conditioned identity but there's a where an awareness in which even yourself speaking you know you're aware of this asana even the breath is watched from someplace that does not breathe how long it's going to take to drive this point home we're not making something we are merely recognizing I call the obvious thing they are moving in you something feels you know presently if I come to that if I identify totally another I'm absorbed in that totally unmoving place I like my moving life I don't want to be just some unmoving space I like my life I want to experience and all the data it's not like that the unmoving is not it's not unmoving it gives life to life it is the cause of all things it doesn't find life and offense it takes care of life but not as ego it causes ego to play also it causes itself to fall under its own spell and appear to be something else in order to experience this existence as an autonomous separate entity this unexperienced is given to all of us but it's not our ultimate experience it's not our ultimate truth many people not ready for that and this is fine also there's not your business or my business if someone is not ready for it those who are ready automatically come together to look at this to go more deeply into that recognition to awaken into the fear life state into the perfect state I'm calling it a state but I it's not right to call it a state unless you say it is a state free or stateless state where is it where is it where is it it's behind even the one who is looking and this one who is looking for it who says I'm looking for it is also a phenomenon appearing in it who catches this clue les hands done in yesterday also I asked for many more today not sure again even when is good even when is good so what now you have said no I love my stories I love telling stories you can tell stories without being a storyteller just like there can be peace without a peacekeeper it sounds beautiful but I don't know how to do that how to do it this is not a spiritual gymnasium here you're not doing anything understanding is the most important thing that as we speak you're following inside and you can feel that there is increased spaciousness and real teaching real pointing should bring you out of the cluster phobia of personhood it should somehow at first you may experience some fear because ego is there and that means the wrong idea we have of our self being held on to it will bring some fear you see that's a reaction that happened but then I point you there's something a deeper space in which the awareness of that reaction confirms that this only a reaction is just a cloud passing don't give so much importance to that and if there's the earnestness in you you will easily overlook that if you are still stuck and say no but this thing's still coming and so on it just shows how attached you were and want to continue to be that's it thank you for what you have refused my offer where you tell me thank you no I think it back how can i defeat you awful is it's a great shining of one we how can i it is a great what it's a greased showering upon me hahaha have you received I feel I'm somewhere day you are that you cannot make a journey to yourself you can only remove the false ideas that makes you feel separated if you feel you on a journey somehow it can feel like you keep your journey or identity and you will enjoy the journey and tell the story of journey also tell the story when you are free then this story will help others to be freed also once I was watching one program actually it was Oprah Winfrey program she had some very good programs I one went one and it was on this thing of anorexia something somebody and she had two two guests on so one of them was one young lady and you know she had lost so much weight she was just you could you it would be like if you open up the body that's what you would see you can see all the vein under them the muscles the tendons the bones everything and she's sitting like that and she's speaking you know because she's been on the show a few times each time disappearing no not my kind of disappearing but and then it came to a point she's talking about all the things that happened to her and all the things that she's been through and everything like that and there was another girl there who had the experience she'd been through that face also but she had recovered and she was looking quite normal actually and let's say you would use the word normal and so now but they're talking to this other girl the one who's very very much almost looks like she's about to leave her body and as she's talking talking she's still in that state and then overset her so where do we go from here and she says I want to right now I'm writing a book about my ex so the other girl says a book who wants to read your book who will want to buy your book first get well and let the book be about transcending your illness so don't write book about spirituality until you are free then it becomes a door through which others can pass also the people are following you and then finally they come to one big gate and where is she your story should be story of transcendence of success as failure we don't because we have so we are Olympic failures at these things so we don't want another book about you know how how I failed almost succeeded okay I think I think we've run out for the moment okay thank you you came up before [Music] okay.come I have a shot at the Pierre McDaniel I prepare my under-budget Silver Bullet thank you so much I know I'll stay by the way last time I came up was yesterday actually and uh I should like when you were telling me like just be the eyes keep looking and let everything flow yes in one way like while you were talking I was like there was like anger like he's not really eat like you know listening and in the other way it was like don't it's not about you know how much he speaks but how much you can hear yeah so I was like nothing but I I felt like I'm wasting your time so I sit down but the thing is guru ji I don't want any more understanding or space of love or joy or any of that really I mean I I appreciate it I really do but what happened after the conversation I cried it yeah let everything happen yeah but I became to metal whatever Chad you got mental about it I've got way too mental and I was like enquiring into yeah who is doing this yeah and after that what happened I kept in trying to who is the doer of this and I'm doing it right like I'm looking right now into who is the doer of this Guruji I just see a space in which even the the sense of an eye seeing yes are you behind space looking I just see space so we have come to the most subtle of elements space it is a very good of all the words remaining when we have come to very mature place of seeing space is one of the last words we can use you know they say it's cannot even say the self is space its space like we say space night because even space is also seen can the self be seen so when I say you see space like space I don't know if you mean the elemental space or the spiritual space hmm are you behind the space seeing the space are you are you a form an entity watching the space pleases look now you can confirm you see space there is that there is like a like like a tension or whatever but I keep asking a question yes okay yeah so some tension don't give too much importance we're seeing the tension no this the tension is seen it's much quicker the who you cannot no not with the mind the tension is same tension and it's quickly let go while you're reporting that you are perceiving space because there could be objects also but what happened is that you don't care about that now so so that's fine it's not troubling you you've come to something even more refined more pure than objects the space now you've come this is beautiful now only a sort of sense of space a sense of space is here so what is seeing the space is it seeing with the eyes are you seeing with the eyes the space are you seeing with the senses just this space are you seeing with imagination the space there is let's slow down it's very important now how are you perceiving space let's say not safe seeing because people go to eyes say perceiving means you're aware are you something behind the space scene space are you an object in space seeing space [Music] we're right here what is aware of space no more no more mental questions is there two factors here space and you as what a you object what is perceiving space actually you are self perceiving but you don't know how to say that so you say you are perceiving space it seems like I'm holding on to something okay holding on to something bring this holding on to something identify what is holding on to what don't get too deep now because it just becomes another door to which something else is Bratton it is a sensation I feel I'm holding on to something but can you prove it if you cannot prove it maybe it's just a sensation just a thought being given too much importance I feel something wants to stay it's like the child does not want to go to sleep so it says you know okay go to sleep darling no mommy mommy what something was stacked up there what's that up there there's nothing up there go to sleep did you read my story no just go to sleep I mean my throat is hurting doesn't want to go to sleep now there's a feel like there's something holding on something holding on holding on to what not important it's only important if you choose to give it importance that's how the world is made a sensation becomes an interest in it and then plus imagination and in a short time a whole world appears and if something is like something is holding on yes it's a sensation naturally because for a long time you have been associated with things even the body is a thing you know it is perceived like that now we've come to the most when the quintessence of seeing and you see something like something is stopping the seeing nothing is stopping the seeing something appearing in the scene is also seen how can anything obstruct the seeing yes there is the sense of I can't be that I being what that cannot be that the memory of yourself the idea you have of yourself cannot be cannot read that that meaning what that is this that is a little bit more distant than this I can't beat that the mind is fighting for is running out of oxygen who is it appealing to just see what huh it seems like it is like talking to the image and he's talking what's talking to what night seems like I'm trying to look at the image as an eye and say that who is you speaking you are also some image arising some thoughts arising in the space you are don't give a shape to space we're after the very essence of all that is perceivable and this recognition is not a phenomenal dualistic recognition is a non phenomenal recognition meaning is not wanting recognizing something else it knows it alone knows itself presently some idea some identity perhaps the last the last thread of identity of I is bringing up its burping up all this yes but I feel like I am doing what how is it living by attention and memory and resistance you know that seem because you feel what if we cut the umbilical cord to this identity what will happen the child will die they say this is the son of a barren woman this I say they said I want to introduce you to the son of a barren woman you understand what it means a woman cannot have children yet this is her son this eye is the son of this barren woman we say yes but how much energy where is the energy coming from to support this identity even now just to be seen when it is seen it's fine you will laugh it's not that we're going to be attending a funeral I'm taking it back I don't want to die I'm here I'm going to shoot you you asked to be shot take the corpse out to doctor the Ganga no the if this is the most beautiful dying the dying of something that doesn't exist apart from true imagination you are the self that you say you're seeking today is the time to prove it everybody has been running away from it you're running towards it and then running away from him but this running towards and running away is just an illusory game you are hit you are this you are this already I am also saying my lyre also so now what is happening there isn't like an acceptance of your words and you are already the awareness but who is there to accept it you see even here the mind is trying to no long I accept I do anything to to live a ghostly life you said you run out of time now you've been here already five minutes available please don't let me go like this I need your cooperation I don't want to be blamed for keeping you for for waking you up come come come come anything I would want to say is just seen and so I don't give it is there some fear also here but I wish it would be so I wish there would be fear so what is what what is uh there is like like a like a resistance I can I do you always give into resistance you've had many time we've had resistance you always give into resistance or do you sometimes recognise I know where that's coming from it's a fake resistance there is a belief like I have to overcome this I being what the eye the eye in I think has the same significance as the it in its node the ID says I think it has its it's as real as the the it in its node or it rained it is what rained think about it I feel that there is some eyes what feeling by itself is a feeling okay is there anyone who can see the error here you're here you're not the one Louise but I feel that somehow that something is holding me back the nonsense it's like somebody coming to you and say okay thank you for wanting to marry my daughter and he said but I don't even know her and they said yes yes but you she showed me you got a ring you gave from you I said but I don't know her you never met before and then your girlfriend is calling Hamdani and you're going something is making me stay yeah while what is that is nothing at all and even the one you're accused of giving the ring she is saying mom I didn't say that it's my mom does things like that anyone yes but maybe she's true it feels just as flimsy but something you see now the power of belief and whose belief who is believing the idea you have had of yourself for so long it's experiencing something like yeah you know something is blocking me but soon I want you to see just now that that idea you can cut loose it's nothing at all but some energy is giving like it's fighting to live you know like there's something just saying maybe I'm not ready I'd love to feel your laughter today I would love that I don't know if I'm going over Concord ground but there is just this like there is like a strong identity with the seeker or the looker until like finding it and the one who is speaking it don't exist it's only imaginary but who imagined it you would a self imagine it new consciousness is imagined yourself to be something and forgot that you did that go on remember okay like a let me see you yeah if you if I don't feel we are going anywhere with this something I'm going to cut it short and they say maybe another moment let's see must be emergency the question is bought the the unbroken stream of awareness mm-hmm so Rama now speaks of the like the stream of ghee that is always flowing yeah so it is seen this undying self there is no there's no question this is known there has been an eye that has experienced the bliss and the sorrow of of an eye experiencing that and losing that it is seen that this is also now through your paintings it is seen that this is okay this one who has experienced it is also seen but it seems that like in this bird situation where there is the doer there is the one seeing there is also behind that there's a bird that's that seeing there's another bird that's that's untouched just being how to have this being in the walking continuously streaming nobody can do it it doesn't need any help there's no there's no third bird in the third situation if you want to call is not a bird there that is the pure awareness in which both the birds have been manifesting out of it and as functions in it and observed by it and the birds appearing becomes the dance of existence happening in front of the seeming I that is the experiencer of them but really ultimately there's only one seeing the rest is all the dream of that to sear and is there a switch that because that it that is known that there is not a question that is known as the undying awareness even in the ignorant state when we are doing and feeling and enjoying and suffering and so on the pure awareness is right there it's not recognized it's not some place you go to but yet a switch of delusion that brings perhaps personhood or doer ship so it seems that attention goes like the attention of the personhood can get again not necessarily deluded of its true self but deluded in a moment of of doer shapour experiencer that it will gradually change and settle down once the seeing has taken place and honoring of the seeing meaning that that which tooth feels like it's a duality experiencing the seeing is gradually being absorbed into the seeing so there is nobody to speak about the scene in the same way there's nobody experiencing bliss there's just this and there's peace but this you know yes when I experience bliss no this I also is an experienced along with the bliss but it has developed such strong it comes from the self it also has the DNA of the self but it also has been given a strong sense of personal identity which is holding on to the body and and localized conditioning wherever you grow up the conditioning is held as the content of what you are the body is held up as the gender of who you are the the country where the body is is called you know you are the citizen of where you are all of these things this total conditioning together still can be seen as a flow or a play inside the unchanging awareness itself when you have come to that recognition that awareness itself is not a medium that are a place that the eye goes to the eye is already appearing in it the eye as the quality then as something finite and the self as in finite but this is only through the mind in reality there is no such thing there is only the one self manifesting in all the forms playing all the forms which it is also and I don't expect you to grasp that at the kind of conceptual understandable level completely first you might understand it intuitively you may have a sense that yes it kind of makes sense but how can i and that reference of eye is built up on misunderstanding and like that so in that place if experiencer rises in that when you said gradually that indicates time or marination is from the perspective of the identity so if to completely like you said this I can't do it yet somehow the sense of duty or experience er yes melts or can be held also in that pure being yes it is meant to be like this for a while that from the absolute comes this relative play of individuality growing and knowing and loving and all of these things the full into our interrelated play of opposites is is in the field of the dynamic world the full play of it is here you see yet at the heart of it is the unchanging one and it may take quite a while maybe lifetimes for that soul energy to evolve to a place where it is to come to the recognition of its unity as the the source of all display if we have a strong sense of attachment to the world and so on then that will indicate that there is not yet the time for this that's not a blame para madman designed the universe like that to play like that is not complaining or why they don't get it or not like that everything in its own time you showed up at the table because you're hungry so eat the ones not hungry doing something else so like this it's all it's all a harmony and it's all has its play everything has its play this is why I am NOT into forcing people to wake up if you're sleeping I leave you alone and fine dreaming enjoy gemma is good but when you are you know if you say I got to wake up but I got to wake up at seven o'clock please help me that I don't oversleep in the common areas a press to them time to wake up I'll leave me alone yeah yeah but you remember you asked me wake up is 7 o'clock I try one more time it's pretty bit of water for 7 o'clock then I say ok sleep sleep because people say like this please help me so we are we are doing together look look and then come to a point and this is also ok we try a little bit to see but if the resistance is too strong then I know it will come again later on you don't have this resistance Mooji yeah no generally speaking now you you say I don't have this resistance yes I hear there's not desire for all of the fruits of of samsara yeah although the the actions the creating don't have this desire ok this is what desire I do you have to only walk as that yes in this villa I think that's where if there is a strand of it's not even confusion it's just seen that that beingness then in in walking engaging perhaps it's just the attention yes don't worry about that that's just naturally it will happen they don't say I want to wake up and to move in that no just wake up and you'll find that everything is happening in that if you say I want to wake up so that everything I do is taking place in that don't all this idea just wake up and discover everything is fine in that playing but to watch from a new a new understanding you see because maybe when you say I want to wake up and still move in life with this maybe secretly unknown to your present position may be a way in which there's a desire also to have a particular kind of flavor in the way we play maybe presently hidden just wake up you come to this wake up to place and then you see that no one has ever woken up to the truth of themselves and felt I made a mistake man that was just bad timing I just had something to do don't worry just people wake up to the truth and everything and nobody's going to complain so all of this can just arise in that and so it is already everything is arising including the sense of beings being deluded about it and seeking it and realizing it is all appearing in it so any sheath like you said sometimes there is there is a ripening and that is also grace with their grace descends and gives revelation or grace descends and has that as a pure stream yes it will not be a surprise to grace it will not be a surprise to the supreme self it's already active in you the enzymes of freedom is already moving in you in the presence sense of yourself and some in satsang something gets thought out even more it's happening the minute it's put inside your heart this urge or this curiosity and interest for awakening it is like taking a piece of ice and putting it into a bowl of warm water and a melting is already taking place even if the I says look I don't want to melt today it's too happening because the ice is water constitutionally and the water is one water is water and a melting is happening every now and again maybe we might put up put it on the stove and more heat comes and quicker thing happened but it's happening also by the grace of the Supreme everything is happening I would I feel I would like to talk to you either again or some more I don't know but something like that I leave tomorrow Nagi you leave tomorrow then we have to finish it once I went to I was invited to someone's home she said she'd like to cook something for me so I rarely rude that I went along and this lady friend she she made a meal and so we're having a meal and I said may I use the bathroom she said just go out and in the hall left first went to the bathroom coming out of the bathroom to turn the light off I saw on the wall like a blackboard little small blackboard I think you yeah and it was written something but the court may have looked at it to write it because he's written by hand and the writing says mama how can I be sure that I'm not already how do I know I'm not already in heaven and that all of this is just a dream so I quickly went inside I said you know if that thing on the board there where did that come from that saying this is all is my son my son when he was six years old he or five years old he said that and it I didn't take it all in completely but I felt something good about this or sit down why is it not known that you know how can I be sure that I'm not already in heaven and that all of this is just dream Charles anything and not yet wait a minute so we went just recently maybe last couple of years we went back I was in Brixton I went to health food shop Mohan was with me I don't know where he is you know and I saw her I said this is the lady I was telling you whose house I went to UC and her son about this message and then I said you remember and she said yes yes but you know what she says my son is now he's like 17 or something and he is denying that he said it [Music] because now is not a man and too-cool-for-school kind of way and is not easy and I didn't stop saying that look at the power of those words but now we develop ego and the ego is saying hey man don't embarrass me with things like that you know if I'd written yo I'm the greatest fool the cool but don't say things like that how do I know that I'm not already in heaven and that all of this life is just dreaming so we some in some children did this it comes it comes and then the the weeds grow over it and then we are selling weeds okay don't go too far now [Music] okay back to you so it is similar thing yeah we are now thinking this is something ahead but also it is already here it is already here and we am miss it why because we have grown strongly and affection for the infection actually the infection means I am this person this is me and so on the birth of ego identity which we are all meant to taste I can't blame someone because everyone is like this everyone has a taste just like all the beings existing in the ocean are wet in the same way all the beings who come into the world will have taste conditioning it's very important because without conditioning there cannot be transcendence and I feel the game is a play of transcending higher and higher transcending of lower ideas and beliefs until you come home beyond the field of concepts that which is is not a concept it is not a belief the pure pure reality is what you are it's not enough if you believe this but believing it may keep you looking to prove it and that may bring you to satsang then you will have a taste of something you cannot you cannot define you cannot explain you will not have this taste from anything else in the world this is the self taste and once you take the darshan of this grace yes you will not be able to give it up something may run away for a while but it will come back at some point we are not waiting even the one who is curious to find out you know in the awakened state can such an such a thing happen and so on in that that play must go on even but now I wonder if there is sufficient earnestness or capacity to see that that present stage of seeing is also perceived and it will pass like other thoughts you have will pass every sensation is passed everything is passing I see like yesterday we were sitting here also and we spoke and we had feelings and laughter and tears and everything but it's gone you cannot reach back and take a sample from yesterday and say can I show you this from yesterday it's all past this is the nature of the of the manifest world everything is in flux everything like clouds passing in front of something that is not passing that which is not passing can that be recognized and can it be recognized by the passing an identity is like one who is passing who has the greater sight that cloud which is passing or that in which the passing is perceived so in the darshan of being this rising it's it's just a wave not to be concerned that you are aware of this also yes you are aware of it that awareness is your very self also the awareness through which you come to realize that even the present idea you have of yourself why is it fear so strong by years of habit condition the force of habit and belief make you so convinced that you are in the shape of a person hmm which is also connected to you but we are limiting what you are not just potentially but what you are actually factually to the fiction fictional identity which you yourself know keeps changing also any personality characteristic is always changing and something is aware of the changes you can also say that you know when I was two years ago I used to think like this feel like that that's also gone and the memory of it will also go sometimes you say my eyesight in the left eye is about 60% in the right eye is about 80% what she's seeing what see sight even that is coming from the pure awareness you are DISA wareness come on how it can be different than this it's only the seeming stubbornness of personal identity which also has caused so much fear and even the fear of like discovering your true nature the feels-like of fear is like whoa but I don't know what will happen when that but you don't know why anything it's like you've been living in some in a prison a small prison prison time and then they say you know I show you pictures you cannot show your pictures of this outside but this is okay we take you and tomorrow you're going to be released and into what into what you know will I be able to write on my walls like I do here and so no no no no you know beyond walls you are free free everywhere you can go but it sounds very big yeah yeah it's very much bigger than this so but you know I like my privacy my cell is nicer than that cell over there I don't want to lose that comfort it's taken me a long time to decorate myself I've been here for so long no you know 40 years now they've even put gold bars on myself what am I going to someplace with platinum bars there's no bars no bars for me it's a little bitter and I said this space I love my space yes this space you're gonna have so much space oh I don't want too much space it's like this a little bit of course nothing is like it and nothing is like it just having fun we're not going anywhere he's not another place he's not another country it's not another planet it's not above or below and it's not even a dissolving I guess is that is that correct yes yes yes because the dissolving means dissolving means that all the hold ideas that we have held onto for so long they are simply thinning away but the self is not growing bigger because there's always been this prayer just to dissolve the me in that and I'm I'm feeling energetically as I was speaking that that's still rising that doesn't necessarily fishes are dying of thirst in the ocean and they're asking where can I go show me where the ocean is please and they said I heard this somewhere over there where I'm so thirsty I want to drink and so what's the drink open the swallow the wave is trying to find the ocean or is it the ocean is trying to find a wave what is in the way please tell me and then we can finish this part what is in the way of my painting identity analysis identities in the way is identity in the way it's not for the self this identity in the way for the person is that that yes maybe for the sense of the person which is in delusion we are carrying in the sense of identity the belief in identity is blocking to go beyond identity but that's a dream yes I think what has been blocking is the rising and falling of identity but rising and falling identity is perceived yes yeah and why do I say that because it can only be perceived from your true self I'm not going to introduce you this is the self whoa no no you're gonna find yeah but I always knew this okay maybe next time let's go up there a little bit somebody up there come yeah I don't know somebody come let's see who come namaste Mooji namaste thank you so much for calling me here okay so sometimes I get this very strong urge to realize the self and it is very strong and then I see that it also passes and it's like a thought that you know I can see and and I also know that the person who's seeing this is not also true though the one who gets you know it as a thought or you can see it sounded when I'm in my being so I can recognize - see this I'm aware of it yes and when I go into my being when I get aware of this some voice in me which is not the person I know it's not the person it's from a deeper silence it's a is no words like when the conviction is very strong so it says no voice just taste Island and like any thought comes with see is no void silence and it's just going to that and actually just one moment you don't go into that you just give attention to that yeah it is always here it's not some place it's not a traveling experience you somehow you your attention goes to it in a tension move it does not move yeah so I'm just a very food yeah so it's just silence then and then when I come out of line over there I cannot come out of silence and I know that I'm always the self because I have had experiences when there is only silence and there's nothing else but when I D identify if I can say as a person it goes away and I just want to ask you that if I mature in the silence will I be free of this maya or like the hypnosis back up of one or two sentences you say that when you go into the personal identity state or something yes you know simply your attention your attention move into that it's almost as though the ego identity is always auditioning for your attention as mo and it will bring your favorite attachments or desires and so on because if you touch them you go into shape and the shape you go into is of a person and it will feel as though yourself went away the self cannot go away it's just that when you are paying attention to something you will not be able to be at the moment you're not in your allistic seeing you're not in your panoramic seeing it's just like that but when you are clear that that which you are cannot go is everything else go including the idea of yourself will go when you're in that again the truth you will see also that even you the attention can go into very very subtle places without losing there's no losing of the in the immensity of what is the particular can happen without any change such as I lost something this I lost and I found feeling is only located in the realm of the changeful and where there is a person and mind psychological mind play do you understand this if you don't I would advise that you just watch the video again they're free it's open for everybody and listen to some part that may touch you and you were not and keep listening just keep listening to this part until it blows away the the ignorance around it that's all like that so continue now so when I feel the strong conviction like I it is so strong that I don't want to wait another moment to be the self yes you're speaking from the non-self also you're speaking from the personal state and of course when I say you're speaking from that state is because energy has come from your natural state and is endorsing this is perpetuating this state of personhood it is it is it is living in the state it's like you contract down your energy to live in a single point call a person and now the person is saying like when I'm able to go back to my original state but by contracting energy to produce the person the the whole does not change it is always here but it's as though when it believes in personhood from that perspective is blind to the infinite Ness of itself the conviction this is what I'm hearing here the conviction that the consciousness has formed with the state of personal identity is the only thing that seems to standing its own way even from that place you're asking I want to merge in the self but there is a conviction there and some fear there and some ignorance there that makes it seem like it's a difficulty the fact is that is not difficult or easy you are the self just in a state of delusion in believing you are merely the personal God that creates it like that and creates a journey of evolving and transcending and growing and expanding to grace and faith and love and all the differentially different rivers of karma yoga bhakti yoga yoga each to suit the particular temperament of those he designed to play like this but the seed of God is in and that is the truth of you in every farm approaching - for that seed to again sprout into its true knowing so therefore now just try to be in the being as much as I can yes yes you can try to remain as the being and be conscious of the being yesterday I gave a good little exercise which is where is your being presently I right now I'm feeling a sense of fear I like talking to you fear yeah some sort of resistance is there that you're going up to a mastering like yeah the the sense of first of all even if fear comes it is arising in the space of yeah it's it's appearing in already your beingness yeah without your beingness there's no perception there's no function no no sense is no mind no world no you even the fact that you know you are is the evidence of yourself as consciousness and being so you don't have to go anywhere to do being now if I ask you right now just knowing that you are being first and then there's something that wants to become there's the becoming part that's okay they leave everything there if you bring your attention only to rest naturally and with the sense of being so just stay as the sense of being I'm gonna call it self awareness Co so just be aware of that now listen stay with what I say say only just be aware of the self your your sense of presence that's nothing any anything so mystical it's very simple very simple means don't be distracted by picking up some thoughts and and memory comes in and so on no the moment I asked just be aware only of the sense of being okay you may experience that out jumpy the mind is it wants to bring in some other stuff we want to introduce a pizza or something or some remembering a name so you have to stay with what I've asked you just try and just be with your being not doing something not later and now it's coming lunch and not any of that stay with your being so even though in some cases you may experience but it's very difficult to focus on my being it's very difficult just to focus on my being just by being asked to do that I'm realizing how erratic my attention is it wants to go off into the bush even more so because you asked I am aware that met the attention itself is running about so then I say to you yes you may experience that then you will be aware also that you there is something even more subtle than attention is that which is aware that the attention is moving the fact that you aware that you can say my attention is very very erratic at the moment my attention is jumping about stay at the place of the noticing of that and you will find a stillness again you follow this yes so just to say right here with the self if I say bring your attention to this and the attention was doing that so then cut him loose you are here if attention won't cooperate cut him loose you are still here you are the one who would say the attention is is jumpy at the moment don't worry then cut him loose because that which is aware of attention of the restlessness of attention or the cooperation of attention is greater than attention you follow so just be here like that and that itself is the beingness just a don't have an image of beingness you are just don't allow the any order thought activity to come and then contact don't log into any of the mind flow you with me with this now in the beginning like I say you may find some resistance and you'll see whoa the mind and the tension is so Restless then you realize you've been living with this kind of night for very long time actually that now it has been if I ask it to pay attention to some stupid thing it will pay attention to it but to pay attention to yourself whoa whoa come come give it you see now that is what the energy has been playing on right to avoid self-awareness this is called distraction distraction means to be distracted from your own self just by asking to rest your attention or to pay attention or to be one with just your sense of being don't combine it with any thought or feeling and stay with that and I say in the beginning you may experience like even a thought like it's impossible but don't give up because at some point at some point a natural focus will happen and you become aware of your true environment you'll feel great peace great stillness and silence and tenth meant and you will naturally wish to be here but mine will come as well and start to introduce some of your favorite sweeties and you may feel something wants to go and just okay I just have one slice I said no leave for the moment three for the moment just stay with this and if you can do this seven minutes ten minutes whenever you can sit and just clarify your being be present that ten minutes that your present is going to give you hours and hours of peace even in the midst of activities you'll find that the background to all activities is this piece and this intuitive self-awareness and just this is how important and powerful self-awareness is that the Maha Shakti mind is seeming to try to get you from discovering it but that's the play and you must don't be cynical about it don't be hungry about it you know prime admin designed it like that so that you will exercise your powers to transcend even this power and win freedom start simply like that it's keeping the attention if you want to say then the tension says no I don't want to be here okay let them go that which recognizes nice attention or by the tension is not a nice nor bad it's just here just be here again and you're only here fix in at first it may seem it's very difficult to us to stay here it may feel it's very difficult to stay here all kind of wonderful invitations are coming up to take your attention somewhere else but stay with it it is one of the most simple exercises I can give you I'm gonna call this also the mirror of God just by staying and you already are here you don't have to travel here actually you're traveling everywhere else but here here you can only be there is no distance here so today move in that awareness give time you have a couple of days though so you will continue through to the final week sit with it even those who are traveling state take this with you also be one with this a few moments be with this and grow in this this is called self-knowledge to be self aware we have been aware of so many things perishable things momentary things now become aware in such a way that you have discovered your timelessness and I'm not asking you to swap this for the world no as long as the vital force the breath I mean by this in consciousness and the body remains activity you will do whatever activity that you are designed to follow even much more effectively you will not hemorrhage energy running after things that don't belong to you you will begin to discover that there is a harmony in you you are disharmony also and that moves also in the field of the manifest yes yes yes but without personal identification and it is a beautiful way to experience life love is there peace is there harmony is their loyalty is there friendship can be there everything can be there but I say so many things arising but you are not aroused stay with that pay attention to this gradually the attention itself it's only playing at resistance it will start to come and join if it doesn't get the support to go out and scatter its seeds it will also come and just rest in the heart just that when it becomes clear for you it will also confirm it has always been here and you have always been this foremost we are compelled to live a life of personal identity and destruction from yourself for a bit it's okay we need that time in the field to develop the language of the vital force to know the play to feel your dynamic and and the mechanics of the functioning of mind and so on now you shift into awareness field then you see that in all things awareness is here primarily fundamentally and necessarily and nothing can happen without disarray this is good if I would just say to you now we leave it like this for the moment in fact what one of the things that happen is that the more you are in self honoring you can recognize that and find affinity with every questioner it's like they are answering they're speaking your questions you can relate to it because you only will feel that no is that's not my interest now when you are being personal as you are coming to consciousness everything matters to you everything you can relate to because consciousness is a universal principle the person is not how to honor it she asked how can you honor it so to speak is it don't take it too heavy if if you fall in love if you fall in love do you require anyone to remind you to remember your beloved thank you that is honoring it what you are attracted to you naturally will give your attention you'll give your energy to this now that is self honoring you are in love somebody has to remind you darling of you have you remembered your beloved today so that's what I mean that's okay I see that I am all of this you see that I see that I am all of this do you also see how you're none of this no you have to see both you are all of this I'm all of this and you are none of this some time you will I am everything and that I'm I'm nothing this is this is will come you see I see I'm all of this can you see also you are none of this yes but there's still someone here experiencing that I am seeing this and okay which is greater somebody's to here experiencing that I'm seeing this or that which is aware that there's a someone sense arising saying that yes I'm here experiencing all of this which is where ah then you choose the higher ground and stay there again just to be clear you feel yes there is someone here who is having the experience and feeling I am all of this okay that's one point which is greater that's someone saying I there's someone here feeling it it it is all of this or that which is aware of the sense now that there's somebody standing up saying yes I am aware that I am someone is seeing all of this which is going to move one of the two is going to move one of the two is going to pass which one is it the one that not be aware one the other one the awareness one not the one who is aware of something let me say it again because it's important because we feel very often that we are speaking from a personal standpoint because I asked you and you say yes but there is I am all of this and I'm none of this but there's also the feeling that I am someone who is here experiencing that that I'm all of this I say okay stop there is someone speaking or feeling I'm the one experiencing all of this or are you that that is aware that there's someone standing up even in this body saying I am aware of all of this which is the greater one of them will go and another one cannot go which are you which is it and that which is aware but I also observed this terror that I'm the only one that you are the only one yes I see that you are the only you know sometimes I say yes you are you are alone but you're not alone as a person you're alone as everything and then you say oh my god but then you've not understood you think you're alone as everything as a someone a very big someone maybe that's what God feels I'm all alone I need some company I'll just make fifty billion company it's not like that this aloneness is the singularity of awareness they are not to awarenesses just like everyone here they may have solved many names maybe there is two and a half thousand people but and maybe not two and a half thousand names because you have some overlaps and so on okay there's one thousand names here yeah but all of them say I first I or my my name is John my name is Abraham you see my name is Krishna you see I all know I and I is a name of God your name is I actually that is your spiritual self reference I and I means consciousness then for the world the body's given name I am Jonathan I am Susan I am whatever like that so when that feeling come that you know if it is the case that I am awareness and there's only one awareness and I am that awareness oh my god no no no I preferred it when I was one awareness and there was another awareness are there they say that there's seven and a half billion human beings on the planet if that meant there's seven and a half billion egos whoa it's crowded here down here very badly but if it is seven and a half billion presents change is something little bit there's seven and a half apparent seven and a half billion apparent presences but one self then who is gonna go oh my god is it a lonely discovery stories have been made and told in this kind of way that God was alone exist and then felt for some entertainment or something so speak now because if fear came it came because of the idea of being one not of one now I just feel right and I'm just here I just AM yes is that the M air that can be seen to be saying I am here or is it that in which the I am here is also seen and expressed or both oh yes one will change and one will not which will the one that is just here the one that's just here is which one speaking is just yeah you mean just here for now or just here now always here okay yeah can it go away is there but to come where we are good the attention goes away wherever the attention goes can it leave the infinite Ness No yes is the infinite troubled by attention no then that smile is genuine then this is how somehow we confirm over and over is not just by going okay today I'm going to do this but as it comes you can stop for and just clarify your being the first thing to do I would say before you get into any conversations and - oh and check in to your emptiness if you check in and there's a thought energy yes okay be aware of that and be in your emptiness be at zero place this place is good then you may converse and whatever and you see a big difference otherwise you're just adding noise to noise start in the empty place so that you're looking out from emptiness when you're looking from person you're looking from a position is very narrow when you're looking from the self as the self hmm and then it's a universal position if you can pay attention to this thing just give it some space in you and watch what the differences you made speak about it next time we see each other about it this afternoon we'll be here for a little bit but just to read some of the letters which I want to read and some of you all of you're welcome to come but that's what this afternoon is for you are good madam so just let the attention come and go and let it come and go if you recognize that you are you cannot come and go if you recognize I cannot come and go then let the attention come and go and see for how long it can do that you'll be running over there running over there looking back to see if you're looking and running onto the road and if you're not participating and that he has to come and be with you otherwise he's finished I just want to share that my brother committed suicide five years ago on January 29th and I'm so grateful to him for leading me to you you are swept up I'm so so grateful yes to him for leaving me to you it's my birthday so January 20 actually death day and birthday should be same thing for everybody because the death day is really me and the real death day is really the awakening to what you are meaning that the end or the depth of ignorance also but yes and I'm happy you have this attitude also because sometimes it takes tragedy intense experiences to bring us back to what is important [Music] okay thank you thank you our daughters say I am beyond non-existence it's fine come sit I am beyond non-existence and beyond existence these do not pretend to me I am beyond both union and separation these do not pertain to me I am beyond both unconsciousness and consciousness these do not pertain or define me i am nectarian knowledge unchanging bliss I am everywhere like space this will become increasingly confirmable in you not by cleverness but by insight now yeah [Applause] there is no deity equal to there is no deity equal to a guru only the blessed and the fortunate alone applies himself to the guru savour this is poem by guru [Music] guru nanak very beautiful my satguru is totally independent my satguru is adorned with truth my Sat guru is the giver of eternity and freedom entirety and freedom my satguru is the primer creator lord the ID proof there is no deity equal to only the blessed and the fortunate alone applies himself to guru Siva my satguru is the sustainer and charger of all my satguru kills and revives mean kills personhood and revives as a realized one the greatest of all my satguru is omnipresent there is no deity equal to a guru only the blessed and fortunate alone applies himself to guru Siva my satguru is the power of the powerless my satguru is my home and court I sacrifice everything along with myself to my guru for he has shown me the righteous path there is no deity equal to the blessed and the fortunate alone applies himself to the Guru's saiva one who serves the Guru is not afflicted with fear one who serves the Guru does not suffer in pain nanak has scrutinized the smithee's and the vedas that there is no difference in this preme Lord and the Guru there is no deity equal to a lonely the blessed and fortunate alone applies himself to guru Siva this is of sri guru nanaka I don't know if everybody or people are aware of him you may go and read some of his divine words and our trances and also he's this is - the Satguru written he could who chase ha no he would be guru Jason now he cool [Music] Jessie - thank you [Music] so long go see [Music] I'm just my iceberg my chuckles say [Music] include a Jason nyeeehhh [Music] set the goodell me be more [Music] so the good of me be more set the good meeting said Thomas Arjun said they couldn't read so basically set the go to me but it could be but it could be done including chase not he could just my mom [Music] so Lagos a set the glutamate a set of a plentiful set the good homie [Music] Marta Cheever such a good I made a key buddy on Gregor to PI Sybil don't I said to go to me don't need no said to go to meet included deep on [Music] such a good game said the boy but I could do article Jennica ethical Jenica a decade on included a song no he called it include a chainsaw nah he could [Music] and just my steak [Music] so now go say [Music] ingenue go to Syria dissemble Nami [Music] ingenue go to save me on this mo Navi all children couldn't save me they send the cleaners and obey no no similar to me by Tabram huh good now he paid [Music] now he didn't include a chainsaw nah he could [Music] and gesture my burger bar [Music] so logon say and gesture my steak [Music] so Lugosi [Music] guru Jensen not equal indeed [Music] [Applause] [Applause] Thank You maybes days arise within you the grace to pull the divided mind into the completeness of the heart for those who yearn for this for those who yearn for this that delusion will be dispelled my death and as I said before it may take some time to stabilize and to continue refining or so but the quintessential painting was to come to the irrefutable recognition that the self there's nothing behind the self in front in fact there's nothing in front of the self Roza it is not an attitude it is not an entity it is not even a deity it is the supreme the one self without any second and without any support it is their approach in your search for truth with humility is good because if there's any arrogance or pride or ego you will nuts awaken to the truth at the same time there may be some egoic remnants might be there but they will continue just being thinning away giving away this is the paradox that they will continue to be a kind of maturing and refining and deepening against a background of unchanging awareness at the same time a paradox that is not easy to grasp until you are actually one with the experiencing and also thank you [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Applause] [Music] [Music] [Applause] thank you [Applause] [Applause] [Music] [Applause] [Music] you

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