You Cannot Jump Into the Absolute, But You Can Jump Out of the Relative

[Music] [Applause] [Music] [Music] [Music] you you [Music] you you [Music] [Applause] [Music] [Applause] you [Applause] [Music] [Music] you [Music] you you you you [Music] [Music] you you you a [Music] you [Music] Oh namaste welcome everyone to satsang today welcome welcome welcome welcome and welcome of course to all who are joining us wherever you are around the world for today's satsang welcome welcome welcome a little bit late today coming here also I was trying to come and Emma came to me this morning when I come and she said because I had satsang before some days ago we had some gathering at where I'm staying and this mother comes and she said you know I have to get it I just have to get it I have to get it please help me to overcome all the obstacles I want to find myself want to be free so we spent quite a long time looking and finding and right to the last last little bit a little bit and then something could not get the past but I'm still seeing my person and it's still there and I'm saying but this doesn't matter like that bum bum bum bum so all that is passed and today I'm coming she shows up at my gate Baba I got it I got it I got it so I said okay okay I can't talk about that now we are late a little bit to come walk with me walk with me and also to apologize to sometimes people want to come to me to say tell them apart tell them we're late we have to move to the I have a technique when I'm late I walk fast and look on the ground but it doesn't work one time went to work so Emma where are you you came up with me where are you okay go to the microphone I want to test you out today she wasn't walking like that before very very sprightly and very good so just catch your breath okay so do you say Papa I got it I got it light shining from her eyes I got it so I just want to check in with you and you tell me what you got oh gee Papa a million million frenum is not enough and those each pranaam may give you that many life life that many years to live I want so that people also so many million people get this and can I tell you how I got it I just test me no okay okay come on tell me how you got it and then tell me then show me what you got I was sitting near Ganga facing Ganga and just I just sacked I start and that was not I was just blank then I saw you came with a soft stick and hitting me nothing nothing nothing that was a vision I did not actually do that just so that the Indian police know that I don't abuse people anyway yes he came to just like water amoeba and then dried and wind up and I was there yes that's it yes where I was in awareness I was a various yes awareness and everything was happening and I've read even for an ant I was feeling that love I don't know how never felt that me not sure that's it I was neither sad nor crying not laughing just mm-hmm no okay now you say was yes I am I am when was this actually yesterday okay denne denne I talked to a 20/20 or this is it a 1020 okay so okay so it's good because it it went overnight so sleep happened did it then waking up happen same thing yes okay so tell me what is here now what is happen I'm here and everything is happening yes that's it always in the morning I was with Ganga I was sitting yes you are who you are what I am the awareness yes I am I don't know anything is and everything is happening yes is it a feeling you are having I'm feeling I don't know I'm feeling what just yes just yes you test me I don't know but even you're good when you say yes the this yes means what I'm your I'm I am I'm your and everything is happening yes since when you are here sometimes mind is trying to answer but I can feel I'm always here yes and if you went to sleep and you wake up and there was a very strong mood and the mind is very strong what what nothing no joy no sadness only compassion for everything I see even I was holding almonds and I felt good for the heart was will let everyone have it like that that I never felt I always wanted to have my almonds for myself almonds okay I was holding it and I wanted everyone to yeah and you know this can you and maybe too early to ask that can it go what is happening here what is it that is here yes then what happened after to us I thought I'm the same person again what happened where's Cohen I was worried then what to know who to ask I opened my mobile you open mobile and YouTube mobile Mobile yeah okay i just opened the first video of yours it pops up every day and i have listened according when it opens so i open that and answer was that that it will come and go don't worry it what will come and go this feeling of weirdness feel Knuffle feeling of awareness yes lots of us did yeah so the awareness is a feeling yes I think it came in the morning because the whole day I was not feeling aware I was like trying but it was not happening I was trying to but in the morning again it was there yes you woke up and that was a natural it was just what was here this feeling if any feeling come like you know what happened and so and you know why is this mind is here so on listen carefully now because it's for everybody if the feeling come when you're more my mind is here and so on and then actually it quickly it must be recognized that this is this is a thought also my mind is here you see until although are the recognition that only this really is you know you will check for yourself you know there's nothing apart from this is this whatever comes and goes it makes no difference to this because it cannot come and go have you come to that recognition Judy yes okay that's very good and because the mind may come in your case it came quite early come up if you mind come and the feeling that you have lost it it must be quickly seen but this is ridiculous who is there to lose anything you see if it is believed it means that still the self the revelation happened but the potential to bring back up again personal identity is not it's still there potential maybe the mind come and then some feeling of personal identity comes and it should not matter if you see but that is nothing it's just a feeling because I say this because for many people they came to that awareness you can say like this but then the thought comes you know yes but it was stronger yesterday and quickly the whole mind comes again like that what happened to the awareness nothing at all happened to the awareness but a shift of attention goes and identity springs up again and we Street we we take on the idea of personhood again that's all that happen awareness doesn't visit you and leave you in fact to endure in the correct seeing somehow the sense of self maybe when it first it becomes clear for you that is only the awareness it's often so powerful that there's no for a long time mind will not show up the seeing is too powerful but he can show up anytime if he shows up and goes ok you know like you know something happens phenomenally and he can say to you look you know oh you know come on we gotta go on and deal with this and the idea of this personal self springs up again and which it can still nothing has happened to awareness but the idea of yourself as a person as sprung up again and is believed in and that will seem to eclipse your realization and for it's possible that that comes up again you see there was nobody who realized the self what happened is that the nun self the false identity vanished in the light of grace and only the self remain but for a while there's the seed of the mind that could say wow you know I can see I am I now I am the awareness I am the awareness and so who is saying I am the awareness you see and if if the eye that says I am the awareness is itself still carrying the the virus of personhood then that sense of having discovered will somehow either be lost or you'll feel I discovered it I've found I've found it and it will fade because there isn't a separate eye to find awareness in the recognition of your true self the I as person vanishes and I becomes the self if it is even said the eye merges in the self do you follow this so these are subtle things it's not that or the self was revealed and then I lost it no no I didn't lose it I did not find it the eye is still persistent the self belief in the eye hides the natural awareness which is its root again when the seeker finds what it is searching for the seeker and the seeking finishes satisfaction the seeker of truth does not become the finder of truth the seeker sinks into its own source it's not the seeker becomes the finder please allow that to be heard deeply and understood in you it's just a subtle the last ace of the sleeve of the mind he plays this card yes I found it and now your master will watch you I have found it who found it then maybe the seeker or that seeking was a who found it who found it and nobody found it or yes I found it master and you are what I am here master I can confirm I found it where is it and where is you like this you may be tested even now mr. mind is here learning how to use those words you follow mine is not outside the hall he's in here also he's in here also even at the temptation of christ the the devil as it says the tempter the deceiver same mind hmm he also showed he knows the scripture also he said why don't you why don't you do this why don't you because it is written no it's written this mind is sharing in your reality and your sense of being on one side and on the other side the power that allows you to evolve or to transcend the lower mind this that duality is in you so I'm I came and I said walk with me today because I need to test to see what you say you are found and who are you who found it so nothing is one nothing is lost for the moment you are here and you are standing on the very threshold of your own on the threshold of ivana himself I just want to see when you say yes you know I find I found it found ESS fine and maybe great joy or something yes yes yes there I found I found it but I want to know how long this I who find it will be around it can be there to say you know I found I found depending on whether this I who find is already disappearing or not I found I found I asked her what did you find I found where are you and there's nobody left only that's which remains your true self which may use I it may use I Sri Ramana Maharshi he said something about this he says that I removes the I yet remains the I of course if you are very mind you know what is he talking about how many eyes are there what it means the natural intuition the natural sense the eye which is of the form of consciousness removes the I me person mode and abides again in its natural state often when we say I the original meaning of I is I consciousness I am I consciousness exist that's what it mean but if you go to any place where people are gathered and you listen attentively to their conversation III everybody III but you must discern what that I represent because for mostly it will represent a person it remember we represent I am the body identity you you know or not this you have heard or not when we speak even to our families friends even sometime to the priests when they speak I whatever it is may still be aye-aye this person personal self the conviction feels more strong and that I itself if it's only personal it must somehow be washed off as a person the eye comes back to I as consciousness pure pure consciousness so before you go back to sit down this feeling this I I this this feeling that you speak it's a it's a genuine what you what has happened there I'm just watching not about the self but about the you if this you is separate from the self if it's going to be separate as the one who discovered the self yes this I cannot find and keep the self this eye is only an idea the person no person who say if I is the person and say I er I have found the self I am awake it is not true it may be deeply believed but it is not yet cooked it will still be a duality there and it's not a technical distinction that I'm making do you follow or not yes the sense i if you are holding the sense i as this finder of the self this will become merely an experience that come and go and I want to make sure that right now you are confirmed that which is stronger the eye or the awareness you see is the eye containing the awareness or is the awareness containing the eye of æneas containing their life yes so the eye is only a sense arising the eye as any entity is only appearing in the immensity of the impersonal awareness do we follow that can you relate to that button yeah yes like that awareness cannot be an object of perception even to say that it is the subject that perceives could become a limitation it is without limit it has no form and no structure so when we approach this kind of inquiry with the mind the mind runs out of technique it runs out of instruments to try and measure because is always separate the notion of being separate trying to evaluate the awareness let me see to study the awareness that's why I say even the one trying to study awareness is an image appearing in the awareness we are that awareness itself but through the culture of identity and personal identity the power seems to be claimed by the person and the person feels more real than the awareness it is saying to be seeking the person is saying yes I'm trying to to find the awareness but you must see that even the person itself searching to reach awareness it's not a reality it doesn't compute it does not which does not work how can the finite discover the infinite how can the relative capture the absolute does it all sound to mental what I'm speaking for those of you who have been pursuing this this seeming mystery but with the urge to discover this is the discovering room right now you must discover this thing you who the one who discovers becomes the discovery but how can there be a discovery without a Discoverer so when one finds I am the awareness that one disappears effectively hmm the awareness is not going to shout yeah found awareness don't give this to the head or to the mind only that when the authentic seeing is he yeah don't make any judgments you are there right here watch no because they are the eye the eye person is still feeling it's tons of chance in the game it's about two to two somehow it's on the verge of detonating into emptiness but is holding on because they could possibly be identity charge is still inside it and maybe it could just call his way meaning yes sorry I lost it and that I lost it is believed rather than discarded and recognize it is only a thought then what is left if the any I find it is still remaining and that is exposed what remains is what remain now the fairness all this thing like that causes what you may call delusions and so on is a game of the consciousness that becomes so subtle yet as awareness it is the subtlest of all so even the most subtle delusion illusion is exposed to be unreal at this level of seeing I understand yes is it is understanding and believing the same no why because as you said that that will overpower I understand yes it tried to but now I believe that it will not now you believe it will not you believe you who believe is what is person yes do you wish to stand in that posture no no then correct yourself not grammatically correct yourself I want to show you you have the power I want to show you you have the power answer as the awareness itself if you if you go to your person you will start to already start to contract and become some you determine your will place belief is not necessary not here you can confirm who is with me Allison keep your hands up from it a pretty healthy place they speak i'ma say something from where you are I don't know what to say what I am yes what is the what is the content of this I am the intuition is fine I am but I am what what is represented in your I am what is their history no person no memory no healthy healthy but we are on the bridge between the manifest world and the absolute this I am this i am-ness it's a good place miss you may call it the conscious presence which is capable of discerning you see it is still a function at this moment that which recognizes even this i am-ness itself can you understand what I'm speaking about yes yes are you located only at the place of I am leave the I am is fine are you located is that your total reality or are you able also to be aware of the I am itself and then stay stay as I am honor honor I am be one with I am now you may say that did I destroy her state she came very jubilant today oh I got it now more reflective of you have you somehow lost something light if your jubilation is still carrying time an identity it will not last if your joy is personal it will not last it is still a born out of time and identity when time and identity is perceived in you with detachment hmm yes this one no one can evaluate you have not become a member of anything at all zero some say who are you 1-1 I am saying here before 1 1 means shape time change growth evolution finding and losing zero is zero dead zero an act is somebody being zero now more power is in you you see that's greater that's deeper the joy is perhaps it's okay premature it's okay but now seeing is is tightening to see where the ship the boat is sinking let's find where the water is coming in from this is why I'm looking with you like this where is now the water of ego is coming in from where is it but the ship of the self has no shape something wants to make a shape and to claim a victory but all of that is illusion so what is to happen now Emma anything or nothing or what is what you said is right in what way what have I said that is right that's I'm on the verge it's only a working title yes it's just to to finish off your scene really that which is is not on the verge of anything but because of this possibility of a reforming of the identity which in its most sattvic appearance is taking the shape of the seeker or the finder we have to go beyond this mode however beautiful it may be because it is still in time and whatever is in time is in change also what is beyond time beyond change but it is not beyond what you are it's easier to see it than to speak about it granted what is your state now cannot explain okay good for now yes good for now absolutely easy look but don't search now just notice but don't shop just look and be one with your seeing don't project okay mommy thank you thanks for now I was talking to you again okay [Music] first you must ingest before you digest you swallow then you can digest because also the mind makes still hold something and it's still in the head this cannot just be in the head sometimes also a mind can take the shape you know this is a big space and lots of people here and it's not I don't like to leave with so many people what a mistake you should see this talk as the most intimate I don't mind if we were all sitting in pajamas I don't mind in why is so intimate not because of the people but because of the quality of the seeing you follow is that because of so many people is the mind as noticing so many of you know but this you are in the inner room of your own being people people that's a distraction the mind is picking up you are here this is your most intimate the most intimate research it's a question of life death or timelessness we have been sleeping dreaming now you must wake up into the truth of for yourself it doesn't suit everybody at the same time sometimes you see people walking out and so on let them miss fine their minds cannot bear it mind may be too strong or something but you're here finish being here and be finished okay okay you come you come you at the back in the dark after you come now thank you thank you I want to be sure where I am now yes I've seen that there is no real self within I've checked it's it's I'm sure thoughts about myself can arise but it's not really I okay this is one team second you speak with this lady about the I am for many years I heard this and I wasn't sure but lately I feel for a long time the last year I was into what is happening this was my truth just you know the senses everything this this was show but lately with satsang with another teacher suddenly I realized it is also the awareness of it not just what is happening because awareness was a concept for me I couldn't really relate to it yeah but the last days I mean maybe this is the I am I am experiencing the body things and it is also an acceptance that is also the behind not just the body and II think there's also something formless awareness or whatever and they are together not I cannot separate I cannot find awareness as a thing but you said now to be there is the absolute not now you I heard you said and a that is also a way to see even beyond the I this I cannot get because I can thinking then I can see the logical T of it maybe there is something because if I I accepted it is only T's I'm still a a bound to to the senses and things and body so now okay I can relax into what is now I don't know absolute is still a thoughtful the absolute cannot be known like you you may know that I am yes you may know that I am sense you naturally feel you know I before the I am was in a state where it was more tied to conditioning culture I personal identity something has moved more deeper or more subtle so you can observe those and prayer perhaps previous tendencies and weaknesses are more distance for you because somehow you learn to observe and the fruit of the observing is you see I am NOT those things they are there because I am here they were not there first and then I came after I am the one who perceived their reality is not they are perceiving me I can see my hand my hand is not perceiving me sort of feeling like that who is saying this thing so the sense I am is there is your natural in fact it is everybody's name all the sentient beings have this natural intuition this untaught or unlearned knowing I am and from this I am so I am is experiencing what do you say you can see it is the this consciousness what I call the dynamic consciousness in which perceiving is functioning the sense of enjoyment and suffering all of this can be perceived through this this spiritual lens and the sense I exist yes the problem is all the time all the vasanas or things that are arising for me also it's not a pro it's a problem and not a problem but I'm not yet you knowing there's still the mind reacting mind reacting in itself is not a problem mind acting reacting interacting observed to be is not a problem the problem is who is it reacting against and far as long as you can see yes something has to admit it's for me it's not my neighbor is complaining but this you know my mind it's something right here present is saying you know but my mind is just so noisy I can't focus and so on you see so the one who is complaining seems to be right here you know it knows it is and it may know I am not the headache I'm not this crazy mind but why doesn't it go away so the crazy mind matters to it how does it come to matter to it if somebody comes with a crazy mind it may not matter so much to you it might be a bit annoying but you can walk away from it but if it's your own crazy mind what you're gonna do so it feels like there is a craziness that is not me but when it comes I am so unhappy and I am so but there is still an awareness deeper than this in which even this one the crazy mind and the one go above actually seen yeah the person is always together with the crazy mind yes they they friendly corresponds no not friends always the friends and enemy yes they can play both sometimes you love your mind you love your mind sometimes we love the paparazzi and then if he doesn't show up too much a paparazzi I'm doing something tomorrow you want to come when we have this love-hate relationship with this mind do we that we presently take to be what we are it is a state of consciousness so at present this I am can fluctuate from being I am this person I hate the world I want to kill people and it can be all I am it can be that so it's and it's world is a fluctuating potential and tendencies it is also known but because of culture no one is is pressed is is pressed is pushed to go beyond the I am nobody in this world we don't need it no one needs to you nobody's asking you you know tell me about your I am nobody you not even this I even we say you know I who are you I am yeah I am what I am you know who's gonna accept it it said take him away we used to go hospital or something nobody can accept I am as just I am I am is a part of a sentence there is no such thing as I am for the world but for you when you see but it's only from the place of the I am comes other things perceived in the space of I am but there I am has the in it the potential somehow to cause identification I am this person when it takes on the mask I am this person I am you know Japanese I am you know from India and Caribbean and whatever then it takes on it's putting on garments garments to look like something more and it will it will reap the the consequence of that shape it's taken on it can stay in the place just I am without any other association and it has much more room is very expanding very beautiful very calm but it is also a function can you say also that I am going into contraction in the body with which are happening or they're also the I am it is observed all these things are observed so because of the consciousness dynamic consciousness which is the true input importance of the sense I is consciousness and not person so that so it's possible that the I am is also being into the body also not oh yeah when it becomes personal it tends to go more into the body yeah it has more stronger association with body then when it is merely functioning as the witness to all of this when it's functioning as the detached witness it experiences more joy and space it feels more happy naturally but it's just not the Mette understanding it and the absolute what it is it's a reference you know absolute can seem to the mine oh absolutely is the most natural free from attributes and quality if you have quality and strong identification you will not be attracted to absoluteness because the person feeds on a sensation and thought and memory and attachments desire and so on so it's not it's at a lower stage of the manifestation of the consciousness I am only by becoming more refined through your spiritual or religious practices authentically carried out it can become refined enough to feel attraction towards even the dissolution of personal identity like Ramana was yes and you are now to become all our knowledge should only be to disappear personally you cannot reappear in personally the impersonal consciousness is always here it is the substratum of all that exists is your natural state you know mooji nine years ago I appear before you before you and I was very arrogant and you put me not you on the video with my face completely this is our thank you for you and it was written pure arrogance connection was nine years ago in Tiruvannamalai and I'm sorry for that no if I really touch I mean to see how much love you have to the people and it's really inspiring me now to see a when I saw you on there on the videos and I thank you for well I have to say that I have only love an attraction for you now because you had to leave or that something is left that clearly was not what we you as you are now was behind and inside that state but not at the mind part of it you were there and yeah you got you you told me you told me that I would go down but not to be worried you told me because I was so full of resumes and in going stupid I never required from anybody to bow down to me or to touch anything on me just that you follow what is being pointed out until you discover for yourself that is only what satsang is about and and when there is a genuine urge to find I have become naturally attracted to you I come naturally attracted to you not personally but to your state of consciousness and the natural outcome of that is that it combust into spiritual knowledge into spiritual which I am here ready far your questions are are good and to clarify it brings us where to now right now nothing it I'm not thinking summer yes it doesn't know anything I'm not seeking anymore Hey yes right now okay yeah that's it I cannot press anyone to go beyond something unless I feel the urge in them is to see that actually there's more that can be seen more clearly seeing just been understood and if something is not contributing to your realization you can recognize it yourself and discard it or it will be discarded automatically like that so it is good for now whatever come has come out so far because if as I understood you say I cannot jump into absolute because it's it's there is no need it's no need but what you may jump out of the relative you cannot jump into the absolute but you may jump out of the relative by seeing but know by seeing by seeing you know because all we are doing I'm not training anyone for any spiritual gymnastics so all we are doing is just looking and then seeing what is present may be some thought come and it is contesting if it's it's saying something we can look at it if it feels to be important if it seems to be persistent then we can look at it and look at because you have the power to discern if this is true or not true and when it is exposed as not true then it loses power and influence in your in your being that is very important perhaps that time is not right now but it's that's that's why I'm here what for a going beyond a relative you say time no no if there is in you an urge to explore you will come to a certain stage inside your seeing from your own self and it will tell you just your own grace of your own self will will freak this one up and say yes there's a question here about this and we can look at that and then somehow by looking and understanding the question loses its itchiness and then it dissipate and more space appears in you like this just that I'm not I'm not trying to get to that that has to come that has to naturally reveal itself I'm not hunting for that I don't want to force anything because if I force it then somehow you may get what seems like a result but it will only be temporary the urge must spring from within you itself and then whatever you find you will sustain that finding you're speaking about revealing some hindrance that I see inside of myself no no no I'm being very general I mean largely when people come and we speak and then I make it as universally accessible as possible when if there's a time to hook something then did my focus the focus automatically changes and then it can become something that needs to happen here like that that's all okay you see also that awareness cannot be different from experiences this is they're always together you cannot separate them yes you can because what we speak for instance about the dynamic consciousness so I'm using this terminology the dynamic consciousness is is an aspect arising within the absolute in which you you can have the sense of an individualized awareness the since I am it comes from awareness I would call it the child of the absolute sometime I use these terminologies they're not necessarily existing in books or something I just say that say that as a way of understanding it is this the the what I may call the this pure the pure projection from the absolute that becomes this I am consciousness is called an experience for you it's understanding because because they if the absolute is fullness and nothing how can you experience it or its understanding yes the self cannot be an experience it's not an experience with an experiencer it's it is not an experience but it's you said okay I'm coming from there because I understand it all my words and everything I have said or potentially is likely to say arises inside and in front of it there's no doubt about that it is not moving I as that is not moving but is it an understanding because it's it cannot be an experience because it's formless I can say it's a direct experience that what is appearing in front of me appears and disappear and is not permanent that is my experience my knowing my knowing and being are one in this I cannot speak of the absolute as a thing that I go to like a an environment that I go to and come out of I it used to be thought like that at one time but it is no longer like that it is not apart from what I am I I want to I want to expose something okay for many years I have been a obsessive compulsive thoughts and when I started to talk with you right now this thought came to me you know to hit her or something it's came to me and it disturb me for a little bit but I forget it and I want from here to to continue I brought it out okay it's exposing maybe some another teacher to me forget healing any woods forget forget about healing you're okay don't don't but something inside of me wanted to bring it out to be okay so so this is one of my disturbances these are things which are really not allowing me to to be loving like yourself and it's well the truth a letter B what the true healing if there's a healing would be to be free of the idea of a healer the one he lived there something must come from the supreme can you say it against the true healer like you said something inside used to have an obsession about healing and healing there isn't a person who is healing it is the supreme the supreme being manifested through some form that it is happy to manifest through in order to to to cause that as long as the the form is empty enough and it is the right form situation the right place for the for the intention of that of God then that may happen - yes so we were talking about things I'm not so much I am only here to catch the fish I'm not I don't want to discuss with the fish okay what's the right bait and where is the best water and what you know this I only can really work with some sense inside me a genuine feeling that one wants to come out or doesn't believe in all this head stuff and talking and talking to someone being very broad here when I say that I'm not interested in discussing spirituality I'm not interested in spirituality particularly or religious thoughts as an interest it is only for coming out of the limited expressions of consciousness as much as one is able to grow to the next stage and in some beings those who are somehow for some reason because I don't go to anybody personally to say oh I think you are ready that they come and in my in my being with you something reacts and say yes we start to speak and then it bring it to the highest place and the highest place will be beyond words into what I call direct experience that is that's all thank you thank you thank you thank you and the Moody hello I love you I love you too thank you for giving me giving me this chance to be in front of you this emotions are very high but I I know that this doesn't matter I am and I can see this yeah can I stop for one moment yes because you say something that I feel is worth mentioning she say I come here and I can feel these emotions yes but I know they don't matter okay now reason why I stopped to look at that is that she exercised her power maybe someone would come and emotion so nervous intense also and may say look sir sorry sorry I just have to calm myself down and so on but she say no sometimes people say I'm crying but don't pay attention to that meaning that they are not prepared to pay attention to that that's on the surface I feel emotion but don't read me by that it's not important the same power you will exercise to overcome and bypass your person also the same design meant the same power the same Authority may manifest in you too to dismiss your person the person in the mind that entity that lives in the mind it's saying you know yes you know but you know you're not ready and so and so you may say that my mind is coming strong right now but we don't pay attention to it doesn't matter that's your power I want to point that is your power the mind can only be as strong as it is permitted to be but you forget that you give permission to it you forgot because it's so subtle you see you may stand up and you're talking about something but deeper down you're you're avoiding to be in the in the real truth of it so something if you are searching for truth and at the at the bottom of your search is some kind of avoidance tendency you will not come to it as as soon as everything looks like the door is about to open you say sorry and you know or you sneeze sorry I need a tissue on you you'll find some way to avoid it so I liked that that happened that you say I can emotions tend to come or some people say I'm a bit of an emotional side but don't pay attention to that and immediately you dismiss it I dismiss it also in any way I dismissed it before unless you say it is important and please can we talk about my emotion you say no I feel maybe the motion but it doesn't matter and that's good and now we can proceed I want to check with you my position because I feel that this person it's like in affluent of the experience it's in front of the exit it's in front but sometimes as you said I login in this and I go with this person even the experience is very beautiful and I feel what it's about this life and this existence as you said the minds come and sometimes feel superior it tells you done this you have your good order someone will we will do this more quickly and I go with this yes this I that goes with it is a potential in you it's one of your powers the power of attention and the power of belief the power of identity without these the mind this is the food for the mind the power of belief the power of attention the power of identity without those mine cannot proliferate so you say the mind stuff comes up and you know it could be something very enjoyable or something not enjoyable but he seems like he's at the front meaning that is in front not facing you facing the stuff isn't it it's taking is taking responsibility is taken or it's speaking to a sense of yourself and saying you're not ready for this this is not good for you yes maybe it's not your time maybe it's not your time yeah I can see they are lies but he tells me that the two awakened is not for it is telling the idea you have of who you are it is speaking to your self-image it cannot speak to your truth it cannot speak to who you really are but you are not as yet aware of what you fully are so it takes you to the place where you are more identified and it speaks with your identity you're not ready and this place of a lower identity is vulnerable and susceptible to the voice of the mind is the serpent is speaking you're not ready yeah I think I'll wait sorry Yugi so where does your power come from now to see that the voice of the mind speaking to the present position you use represent very good word the position that you have located yourself the mind is speaking to that because there's a lot of charges a lot of nerve endings there is a lot of history there's a lot of identity there so it can talk to that you are not ready yet and because you you identify then it's like is right here there's no space to even observe because it is you this is the power you are convinced that sometimes we're not sure if it is the mind or is you you have to come to know the difference between your mind and you and sometimes he gets in and it's like I it doesn't say we says I and so you don't see him because you accept he's saying now I'm pointing you from another place to say both the voice that's saying you are not ready and the one who is believing I'm not ready are both perceivable from a deeper consciousness in you you can see them is just that you have not been cultured to look like that nobody has forced you to look like that no one has invited you to look you don't have the sense yet that you exist beyond this person you presently take yourself to be by God's grace throughout your life you have been changing your personality has been changing and each of them in their moment felt like you I am this but you moved from that and you can look back and say I used to be like that which one of these stages of personality where you actually but actually none of them none of them they were just a mode a phase that the consciousness played you are able to see the one who says you know okay you are not ready you're not ready he's speaking to who to your self-image your identity that you accept at the moment in the position that you're functioning from and the one who hears you're not ready and accepts and believes it believes that voice into existence and it becomes your experience now some people may say but that's all I know the world of I is all I know you see but actually the eye and all that it has done apparently and the memory of is doing and the memory of its identity and they put the possibilities and potential in front of it to become are all in front of something that does not become now this something is not as something it has no shape it has no shape actually your truth yourself has no shape this has been changing many shapes but you are still here your ideas have been to many places but you are still here but you don't know what this is you are the formless inside the farm but not limited in size by the limitation of the farm but this has to become your experience arising out of the authority of your own direct seeing today I resonate with this part but it's not I can't explain what but it's what I am sometime in the last few days questions comes to mind but something resonates in me in what I am and the question is who is talking to the mind and something loves it's some it's it's something very obvious about this who is talking the mind through because yes so something is obvious and great joy arises maybe for a flash who is did you say who is speaking to the mind or speaking from the mind which one means know who is the mind speaking to you yeah please device yes yes yes yes who is the mind speaking to who is the mind speaking to you're not ready enough good on you ha ha you're not good enough or you're far too good you can switch because either works for is play you're not good enough or pull you're far too good either why because it promotes ego and ego means more suffering more ignorance and he work to keep ignorance going later on we're gonna see actually that this mind was mister is actually a friend of your opportunity to wake up while we are in the state of personhood mine is the demon he Steph is the funny friend who is friend an enemy but as you begin to wake up to the truth of who you are you use him to find the things in you which are still hidden he will keep biting at them and you say ha I can see that this vasana or tendency is still alive in here Thank You mind for showing so now I can look at that and also discard that you say the mind itself came and for a moment a thought came but who is mind speaking to and instantly there was sort of and then stopped did you keep on laughing who is the mind talking to look at nobody or just do some ghost he's back but did you go away you are there to watch this also this entire scenario you we have given a certain energy the mind so to speak is living on phantom energy means it takes the energy of your belief to work against you while you are in a state of hypnosis in believing you are something you are not or something that's only a limitation let's carry on very good yeah even now I I am here and also I can see the ego the person the mind that it's playing in the back yes even it's more subtly don't worry about that don't don't have to turn backwards to find him don't worry about that and before the presence of its he they of the mind and its activity was more loud and it gave the impression that it's blocking from discovering the self which itself is an idea appearing in the self but when I each time I say that there seem to be all you black out sorry I didn't really get that could you repeat prayer and I say it again again it's like some little switch that you're not connecting you know right there this this switch of delusion you know keeps the whole world hostage to this delusion and this is what I persist on this because I know and see what happens here you see an insight came the question come but who is the mind talking to and instantly space opened up because nobody was found okay and then what followed by what what happened after this question and after him before this question I have I I was doing the invitation and I I could see and I could experience that all that we are speaking here it's true and it's so natural it's not something that Minds tells me yes and after that I I've done the invitation for the first time but for the second time in the last days the mind was prepared for this and did his homework and and said to me you have to do the invitation and and all this experience I couldn't experience yes you see look okay he encouraged you to listen to the invitation go listen to the invitation because something knows that maybe it creates a sort of pressure like I do I have to it's all some very very subtle thing going on we don't have to worry about that I'm not gonna pursue a mind I'm only interested that you are aware in all of this now you see the mind is saying that the mind is saying that us saying that about the mind makes the mind happy your advertising is power or the mind is so strong the mind just doesn't go away she's right she's mad we are advertising his power and you put your attention away from you without whom mine has no job has no power I'm too mad mind in its psychological self-portrait I'm not on but the general mind practical mind and so on which is a doesn't cause this kind of trouble but this identity is one of his you know one of his aspects in play very strongly I feel that now it's the moment to somehow to to stay in here or I don't know how stay and to see beyond this point that I am now and if I I want to please to help me maybe to to bring ok so let's start at the place that you being what I can help just try and everyone don't let the mind fool you that I'm just talking to her anybody can find but somehow you want something and you who want something now I want you to to zoom in on this and to show me who you're speaking about you as what is asking for help I could see when you ask me that was a trick of the mind because this I wants to but sometimes is something in my heart that you know he knows that yes it's as you said to to come in front of you and yes and and and this one who wants to know can seem really um you know like really earnest also please help me to find the self you know I can call it to it can call it the sattvic ego also it's fine there's some genuineness there if that genuine was not there you probably would not have come here but you have come here to transcend even this one also so you coming please help me to really be to really go beyond the present scope of something okay and then I say but even this one who wants to do it who wants to go beyond into the absoluteness could you introduce this one who it is and instantly you say yes it's true my heart knew that this one is also a shape appearing so now be in the heart place what you call the heart place mmm the place where the heart is this hard place doing anything at all no no why this is your place this is you this is you the one who wants to do and do and do it has been an idea you have of yourself which was instigated by the play of life Paramatma had set this play to be like that so that the the play of evolution and transcending can happen and now you are at this place now where you are just somehow coming to clarity about what is your position where you started speaking from what is your true position now see is it the one who is asking for help please help me help me too I can't take my mind anymore please help me then who are you then you saw in order to see and to say now I'm not that one no you no I'm not then who are you where are you don't think for that just be where you if you're not this one if you're not the one seeking help to go beyond then who are you who saw that one and can verify that that is a trigger or so can this one be tricked a bit the doubt doubt there and out also can be perceived if you identify then you give doubt a life and then and the doubter also like yes I'm a bit stuck here these are subtle thing that's your wish if you feel to look at what the doubt is or you can say but doubt is an energy also coming in now and it slows down my seeing so the iron must go back to to find out what the doubt is before I proceed so you became an I as a doubter that which is is beyond doubt and beyond belief you see I don't expect all of you to be here actually I expected people start walking out because you know most people cannot follow this kind of conversation we have come to this place now the doubt come in perfect timing just as you are stepping through the door of nirvana is just the moment can I see your ID and something ahaha please tell me doubt has and it has a voice it has a an influence even now for whom is the doubt for the hearts or for the secret the secret yes how important now to satisfy the apparent needs and aims of the seeker no importance okay so you finished the rest all by yourself now I will sit here you conclude know what to conclude no word you know okay try feeling no try situation no situation a bit again this thought you will go from the mic and I will appear again you do go and come back to go and see go goes up there go around come around and go back to the mic and I want to see when here becomes there you go do it you'll walk away from the mic the mister you know okay you know it's like the guy who goes yeah yeah okay you some I'll come back later when you're by yourself that what about now why not now but you put the doubt in your mind when you step away from this mic you see what's gonna happen so do it in my presence I go do it walk up there go around and come back down and do it and see and watch watch when you lose yourself and when you lose yourself stop by the person you are and put your hand on your head to go and tell me with you just as a marker as he come as he commits as he taken you now keep coming and keep coming because he might just say yeah but you blew it you didn't finish the last what am I speaking to say this it's this is mainly what I know I don't know how to okay okay that's fine Dana noise so the mine said no you step away from this microphone and haha see what happened so we looked and what happened or did he have another appointment somewhere else why I didn't come destroy your freedom all this thing you cannot what difference has happened no difference yeah even the thoughts are coming and yeah it's very good even now the thoughts are coming not later even now they are coming and how we are to treat them what impacts they have no impact impact we had one time in my small apartment in London we had satsang just like this you're I'm reminded of this and one man we've been talking like this for a while and then he finally says you know Mooji it's amazing he says my being is filling the room it's filling the whole room I said but that is fantastic but what about the kitchen he said no it's just in the room I said go in the kitchen a small kitchen you go in the kitchen I said yeah what happened he said it's in the kitchen as well I said what about the hallway he said no no definitely the kitchen is open and it's linked to this go in the hallway he went in the hallway narrow hallway he said it's amazing he's in the hallway as well try the bathroom it's in the bathroom as well yeah that's you know it's very good I said what about the garden he said no no no it's definitely inside your apartment going to garden he went in the garden he says it's in the gardener's practice in the garden and then he said you know it's amazing to come to your place and I just want to savor it because I know when I leave when I leave it will be it will it will leave also so I said ok you go out it was autumn and when in London it's quite actually go out and tell me when you lose this when it goes and he went out he was gone from 3540 minutes he went walking all the way down Brixton table down the station he came back you know and I said what you found he said it is everywhere so I'd want to test you see because your mind will tell you you're standing now you're in front of Mooji you tell that but you wait until I said go and take it now challenge him now go and see it's a bluff and we have been responding to bluff way okay yeah yeah maybe I so you have proven now that this is what what is this what is this can mind intimidate this no its natural natural and and you some sense of I person it's it it is here it's it is fine I want you yes that doesn't meet that does the self this whatever this is does it have to move over to make some room for your person no as long as the bodies here the vital force is here consciousness is here the potential for some thought activity the arising of the sense I will be there but this I will not be ego this I is the I am itself which is not necessary for the absolute what I call it absolute for the pure awareness but it can appear there too without any history without any desire it can shine there also now you say the sense of I might be still there the senses are there it's fine good to get used to it they will be there when the body drops maybe some change may happen you will see but not to this to this this to the isness to do this you can call it different name you can call it near Gooden Bremen you can call it absolute awareness you can call it the great void you can call it whatever but it is beyond name or so so get used to it so you don't know that people might say but the the mind is still there I let them be there now see what job we can cause now the sense I is still there your dynamic self you may say that's in the in the realm of activities in the realm of duality and experiencing but it's completely different because it's sitting in the lap of the infinite I wonder if you follow yes yes this for me is the true conversation of the hue in the human experience to find that that which gives you the sense that you are the one experiencing and that which experiences experiencing you are the unmoving inside the moving you are where are you what is the location of that which can perceive inside and outside simultaneously where is the location of it like this is there any sadness here it's it's not a feeling even mmm I can say it's not love how the mind thinks it it's love yes it's something that feels like home that feels like you can rest now in the mind what yeah in the mind words yeah yes everywhere yes can it go away no can it be lost you know can it be deluded no is it a blank no no good test because if there's blank blank also is perceived if it's black hole black hole so will be perceived it is not this it's not anything anything that you can perceive is never ever going to be something you can perceive dualistic Allah or phenomenally it cannot be seen it is behind the very scene it is that which perceives and yet is not tied to anything seen now that may not sound appealing is a kind of is it dad it's not final it's not the last step is the mind thought see again it's not the last step it's not the last step it's not final it's not with it's not finished it's not yeah something is not finished it's not finished with referring to what this natural state yes has no end there's no end what about beginning I can find the beginning and you who can't find beginning or end is much something that it's perceived yes it's a sense but it's seen that talks I can yes it needs the consciousness is speaking on behalf of the absolute thank you thank you thank you this this is seeing this is the dissolution of delusions even then you may hear the term remain as that even though that does not have to remain as that but just in case the attention drifts towards the sense of doing they say remain which means you are already there they also become I said remain stay stay faithful to yourself don't drift towards the mind with your attention for a while that will still be of value maybe you see but at a certain point that also burns up it is said here in India if you go to the cremation ground you see that they put the body on the fire and is best burning away and there's why everything all the wood is on fire but there's one stick they call it the the funeral pyre I think it's called like this is right those of you can use this word they use that stick to keep putting on the the wood that falls away sometimes a piece of body follow it put back on to put everything back on the fire so everything is burning and when everything is nicely burning finally they put also this stick also in the fire and everything is gone what is this stick you see this reminder remain also as awareness when it is no longer needed this reminder it also vanishes we have each been somehow on the journey of self-discovery and this time that it has taken is important time because it's like reacquainting us with our own source self because we have developed so much attachment to the Unreal we could not take the full impact of realization of the real so we have been starting on baby food a little bit to gradually develop the right appetite somehow to come back to the to bear your own truth in fact there is nothing other than truth to bear their own truth you've been developing spiritual muscle to discover and then right as you discover all your spiritual muscle and you are gone you are the one that doesn't need muscle so you must have at least a subtlety of understanding to grasp this because in the mind in a more dense or grow States will not be attracted to dis understand what you have come to seeing I may say Hana you're seeing Hana are seeing hmmm which means that there is no greater joy then somehow observing yourself it's a non dual play everything else is taking you to some something now as you stabilize in your own self the play of the dynamic consciousness and the world becomes a very different thing for you some Yanni's or awakened beings you may say for them the world is nothing at all for others they have an activity to do also in life but no one can guess their state that they are the supreme in that state and another one may seem to be very active in the life and have a family and all these things but no one can guess their state except those who have an attraction to and an urge to discover the truth they will be like a drawn to that presence because they'll feed through the peace and the joy and the love that emanate as the perfume of that state here is a perfect example of someone entering through the door of their own being - they're out to themself and this is what we see and since I've been here in in Rishikesh I have witnessed a few of this happening rare yet everyone is in the pot everyone is in the pot all the fruits are ripening some you touch and they just drop the yield orders you have to twist as a no they're not ready leave their mandatory others too high up in there and the monkeys are eating them what to do it's like that all is the plane of permit man it's a joy it's a privilege for me it's a horror for me to meet the beings like you or not for me and also I want to remind and thank you of hamana Maha Tashi and Apogee and Ananda my and the awakened beings that was on this planet because if in every place they they are in you can find them and I can find you and yes they have not left enough of them is here too their influence they are here also in this room they're here to support this because even this is rare they are blessing us even this is rare coming together of human beings to look into this timeless subject and to discover not intellectualize about it but to discover we are the seeds of awakening in a sleeping world there are the seeds of awakening in a sleeping world thank you sometimes we feel that there's so much you have to do and there's so many wrong things have happened in your life so many mistakes we have made and it's so hard we have a long way to go and lifetimes to put things right I say mm-hmm no no it's not you could have the the worst past but if you're open for self-discovery nothing can stop you just you need someone who see who can point out oh no no no that's not true look and see I do not close the door on anybody because I know you are the self I don't believe you are the self I know that that is our ultimate reality it's not in some divine vault somewhere it's in the vault of your own heart you have to wake up to it and you're not alone as a person actually you and the mind makes you isolate them I don't know if I can do another we don't have to worry about all of that when the time comes all these things you drop them they create hindrances and obstacles where none exists except in the mind there is one earth but there are billions of worlds all existing in you your belief identity inclinations shape the world you think you see your freedom is not there your freedom is free from that and you can see when those who are waking awakening to the truth they're just like you when the Buddha woke up hmm when any of the great masters woke up there was not any trumpet Papa Papa not necessarily maybe once or twice we can't say we cannot we will say it is like easily like that it may be just like this just like that it will be just like that then it will continue to get more enriching and more pure more beautiful [Music] okay you can okay I'm still master namaste I have the feeling that after see her speak that even though I I know the answers are right at night through justice after seeing her speak what happened I have the feeling that even though I'm answering also the answers right yes seeing is not true you're seeing is not true so even if you say even in spite of witnessing this conversation concluding in the most auspicious way and I am myself following that conversation and answering all the questions inside I have the feeling that my conclusions that my something is not true what is not true that the seeing is not complete because if it was complete what would happen this feeling that you're having would not be there you are going to have to earn that if you feel I followed that listen that followed I followed her know inside when she says yes it was yeah I said yes to I can see I can see to go walk around the hall and I went in my head walk around it's the same is the same whatever you have to say and now you stand up and you say I could confirm along with her internally all the things you were sayin side I could confirm it is true but something here is feeling it's not complete the self is not complete or incomplete just to answer your mind what does complete mean complete is also a subjective concept what someone will say is complete here another one we say now that's not complete for me it's a very subjective what is the standard of completeness it's very subjective and that is also another ace of the sleeve of the mind you see it's not complete though yeah it's not complete you're behaving like the desktop of your mind is not complete now I'm sorry they're not complete what does complete or incomplete mean is it a feeling is it a feeling you see that's complete complete is it that no so what is the evidence of completeness what should have happened ray Eureka what is completeness it here in this mode it is a thought believed in it's incomplete everything was going good until you said it's incomplete but you didn't feel my mind said it's incomplete it just arose and is not complete on what did you assess in completeness can the self be judged someone goes if the self is there it's like 85% now it has chopped out 82 how can the self be assessed can it be seen how will we verify did it come we are looking with the wrong instrument I have the feeling it's more the other way around it when I sit down that my mind says oh you don't have to stand up you know you can give all the answers but something is I feel it I cannot see you see what she's saying say again and everybody listen listen listen please because this today can be the best satsang or a failed satsang fail okay you some people go oh and I didn't just get nothing out of that man words words we're actually another one is like whatever yeah where is best satsang gonna happen up here down there and here you tell me or here so you listen to what she said just now she said that it's the other way from me because what happened I have the feeling that I sit down and I my mind is telling me you don't have to stand up because you already know the answer I know it's not true yes yes yes how did you know it's not true because I feel this because the mine say you know why don't you just sit down because you know the answer what did they say yeah you already answering the right and you already know the right answer what's the point of getting up in front of all these people tax be kind be compassionate let someone else who don't know stand up he is very smart now you tell you you're not good or I tell you you're too good so now you caught him by yourself you say maybe I'm gonna sit down or no no this was before you stood up yes I was sitting there a night I I was looking at her and I I could feel that the way she could see this is not my seeing but my mind was telling me no you sit down you know all the answers you were inserted perfect no let me get this right what's going on here you're sitting down yes and you were confirming or not confirming you're saying that what she seems to be saying is not your experience or is it your experience you could not verify I believe that it's not fully my experience yet so see I see those verifications not yet your thing okay okay let's do now then yes is not your seeing so we're not going to duplicate you know because I can't turn what happened there into a method we have to look fresh okay something says it is not my experience I cannot verify all these things okay what can you verify I can during the day see very clear when thoughts come and that I did is identifying with it and then when I tried to look for this I I know that I look from this point so that I cannot really see the one with sort of mind slips yeah what is your present state right now of looking something stable or unstable stable something is stable here now yes and if it becomes unstable there is the capacity to witness now something is unstable yes yes that which is able to determine or discern stable and unstable what where is that is that stable or unstable stable stable where is it how did that knowing come to you it's just annoying at any time you look for this have you ever caught it to be unstable will give you a different reading no so therefore if you want something to be true are you going to look at that which is true sometimes and not to another time or that which is consistent when you're going to be there is even the one who is saying you know when I look there it is table is that one apart from there where is looking from it's not a place that I can go to to look it's not a place you can go to to look referring to what like I cannot go and visit it it's just yeah why because it's already here yes is there another truth apart from this no so what is left to be done with you remind me no nothing it's just the ID it's just an idea yes yeah that will keep coming back because it's got the good results in the past it will come and say you almost got it and that will provoke the possibility to think ah I missed it oh my gosh and then instantly what happened you jump into a shape of failure if it is believed but you have the capacity to see that whatever shape however subtle mind comes it still just mind I still not never mind why are you looking like this no no the thought I don't know if it's a thought of that it's true but now I can what a head on the chair like you see you don't have to stand up you already know but is it you who know you who know it's just annoying just yes yes but would the mind come and say to space a space you need to be more spacious not spacious enough no the space of a doubt about itself so who can I be speaking to you see the potential to believe the potential to believe is this working for you or not up to how far up the room from me thank very good what is left there because I see an expression I want to know if it's just superficial and you're unaware of it of kind of like no I know that I know this and I know that it is true but I don't know if there's something me when I listen I know that I know yes but how can I be sure I know no I'm sure I know they were more than no more than no this knowing and being must be the same yes you cannot know it like you know something you studied at university you cannot have this knowing no it's not a study it's it's no it's a fact it's a fact yes yeah but I just have the feeling that I need to check if there's not someone holding just knowing yes which is what you're doing now or later no and you're finding what did I just know that this is true is there some separation between the knower and the knowing no no I crying then sometimes I just want to check if the crying was an expression coming out of doubt no I don't even realize that this happened it's okay to realize many things are not happening it's okay it's okay we don't have to know everything that's happening like that in fact many things that were apparent happenings are becoming know happening happenings meaning they have no particular appeal to you at that level you have maybe a panoramic view of things you're even able to have a very pointed you know looking at something without losing your vastness everything is happening in the vastness if you feel you're looking from a very personal perspective on position then we may say that let's take a look if that is true or not but once you have seen that the vastness is not vast all around you except where you are and you are something in the vastness occupying a little bit of something less in the vastness the body is there the body has nothing to do with limiting the vastness all the bodies are also in this yes in the first minute also in everybody yes is it limited in all the bodies yes only when it goes to mind and person it takes on the sense of limitation is that a question or a statement the statement are we done is that just your style of speaking or I want to know I'm just checking there's some people very modest they know something and you say so you know that it says yeah I can say yeah it's okay if it's your style of expression it's okay but if it is a kind of life no no this is just look you have enough in you to continue sweeping as you go if necessary meaning if something comes and it's playing why should it play in the indie immensity and the authority of your seeing and the proof of your seeing what can destabilize you and you being what an object in yourself that cannot be touched or yes so I would say marinate in that seeing which means spend time sitting with that and and just confirm nicely when things in mind bring something just keep looking not a sweaty no just if you are empty even seeing is without effort just noticing this well the self is dwelling in the self as the self that's all you can see and everything that plays you they find their right position in you don't have to go and place anything you are ready there to confirm let's not get too tight I have to get tight a little bit to look and to see if as as the boat is coming into harbour hmm then the captain may put down his pipe a little bit and get steady and have to navigate a bit more carefully that's all then your home is fine that kind of looking but when the shippers reach Harbor we don't have to be reading charts and turning wheels and blowing things you know you understand what I mean let you continue it will not do any harm sitting and just somehow looking again and just check in later there may come some storm in the dynamic realm but it's fine this is completely however dynamic however the greatest tsunami may happen in the dynamic will that do anything to this we thought I became it so yeah yes because you at that time was still holding on to a personal identity that could be damaged or something now that identity is seen that that is also a construct and and you are able to see that keep looking at that and it will keep diffusing it and thinning it away until it doesn't anymore have you know this is your this is your sport you can take time over that that's okay because when you're so used to see life what you believe life to be and on a certain point it becomes so clear that all of this is this and you can almost not believe what you are fighting yes it's got nothing to do with belief anymore now relief is a lot to do with also future prospective agents based upon misconception and you may say a lot of a lack of satisfaction with a sense of the present and then you speculate and then you have to believe that you know how things will be later or something this you don't need you don't need now you're back to spontaneous existence Marth what it means it doesn't mean a pledge to be always spontaneous it means that life is spontaneous anyway the functioning of what to do doesn't really come up when you're in front then use something spontaneous with no where to go how to do but to forecast ahead we got to do this and if this doesn't happen and so on if it's coming out of fear and identity it will not serve you there's a time to plan ahead if it is appropriate thing if you're buying a ticket to go to Turkey or someplace like this you're looking for the best flight and so and you have to look and you have to plan a little bit that's not good no that's pragmatic use of the mind that's not going to create any trouble but when mind is being used for personal identity and so this is a mess it's been a mess for a long time now it's cleared up stay clear keep it simple nothing to work out only that which was untrue that will work out now the system and and and all your functions are cleaned so they are fine they will function fine don't worry about it you will only notice Oh things are so easy and so natural not without pride appreciation gratitude replace pride and chaos and I really want to think that I can experience this during the safe are you yes yeah natural and for example when I was photographing the buttons at the moment right before it started I believed so much in my personal self like so many people were gonna do in the very last amber Europe you see way too clear to believe in this limited voice you cannot you cannot believe it anymore in the natural yeah and then what's your name what's the name my name yes and where is she [Laughter] she's also inside all of this yes that's a good place for her good place I am NOT asking anyone to give me the answers they think I want you must out of your own being will come the appropriate response is to not questions to everything to everything and if it doesn't it's okay and if it does it's okay you never came you never forget yourself and you don't at a certain point even have to remember yourself it is just what is thank you thank you thank you I don't know what to do about this because we have letters coming in from many participants and the the satsanghs have been so ripping somehow inside the room I'm wondering if I must set a time that I could look through the letters in maybe a day or an afternoon and look through them because they are also very potent and if I set us aside you know an hour to do that one time you would like to be there we we reassure the online participant you come yeah we can have one more yeah she's not sure then the evil go then that is the wrong kind of compassion but anyway as it plays okay somebody who ever wants to go to the mic speak when I left this ashram having a feeling of joy and happiness yes I stepped into the street and suddenly all the hustle-bustle hit me yes and the noise and the pollution and something in me wanting to know what this meant yes and at this moment I suddenly realized that what I saw was all this was there for my freedom yes carry on and the rickshaw was dynamic life prepared by prepared by consciousness and in the rickshaw i sat as the idea I have of myself and the driver was the psychological mind determined to keep the person on board to get his report and the hooter was a ego pronouncing that there was a very important person on board but sitting there also was a master formless shapeless and I was I am next to the master as close as closeness or as you would say beyond the concept of closeness yes looking without comment without opinion without judgment that this is life in the rickshaw for the person going over bumps and everything is there trying to bring me to consciousness yes okay now wanting all these things you saw and then you see you mentioned what the hooter was was the ego blowing very important person on board pop up get out of the way we will whatever it is and then suddenly you saw you're sitting right next to the master okay so there are two beings they're the Masters mind and your mind and your mind say I'm very intimately close to master I wonder what the Masters mind is saying with the mastermind be saying I'm very intimately close to a disciple which of the two minds is the true mind nurses right yes which says you seeing two because the mine say the psychological mind say intimate that's pretty good that means close but not one the person's mind say or the devotee mine say we are very good never been so close majesty intimately close intimate means close hmm what's happening in masters mind then what would mastermind say it does not see close actually in your example there was no physical master the master is in your heart these seemingly two are actually one there's the ego mind saying we are very close I'm taking darshan from master now but it's still however nice however auspicious it's still a separation masters mind and master's heart same thing is your heart and your mind now masters heart and mastermind is no different only when we have the sense of a person there'll be personal mind and higher mind but in the realization of the self there is no heart and mind different category heart you can say you can say heart mind but mind and harder one then in that thing so in that rickshaw there is only one in bhagavad-gita Lord Krishna is seen being the charioteer riding Arjuna next to him okay Arjuna is eagle Krishna is Lord in natural factors really only one Christian Knights but Arjuna c2 is the same thing when you went out you're in satsang you went out you are still in satsang where the satsang in so you go out and the the rush of the traffic and the noise loud big blasts but something came he went in the rickshaw and in the rickshaw the initial dropped away as a deep understanding was in informing inside actually only the master is here and it is sitting inside his own body but there is still some fragmented idea of herself that's sitting next to the master so it can go both ways it can go one way that yes I had this darshan of really having this wonderful experience that I got close to the master and so that I survived because the master we cannot see or in that bit the eye that was sitting close to the master was swallowed up and merging master but he will not say only the master is here he's quiet he is like the second bird who doesn't speak but is more than second bad that is that is my take on it all of that took place inside your being all of that took place inside you but the mind was still writing the story of it and his he will write a version and not the truth you write a version that is agreeable and auspicious to the seeker but the master will not read that book the Masters in you is your own self but the the nut self the ego self is to sitting in the Masters chair at the moment it's the ego voice which is a ghost voice that is speaking something holds on to something else on to the identity the personal identity which is thinking it's a fact behaving it's a fact whereas it is the fiction naturally the fact is what we'll call the master who is the source of that identity but the identity seems to be playing out is that too subtle thing to say is it to suck no thank you you understand thank you Jessie Krishna I will mask in Hindi yeah the try to speak and English anyways you can speak in English I'm how connected but really deeply with emotions so that the more comforted with my own language okay okay who is gonna come forward for AMD for me yes you do microphone is there so far yes thank you ah [Music] Rishikesh coming first time but it sashka sadhana WA because of just before 20 days okay I lost my father yeah so actually I didn't semester second gold keys just sitting here and yes like heartbeat okay it's always been like a god to me yes sweet education a karate akiko nature nishu kami because of own cabin and I can't imagine life you know how we close was that it can be a new journey in Rishikesh it can be a new journey a new journey being and Rasika being yes and as if just the respondent whatever aha with like Shastras in bhagavad-gita sweet Aki Mahdi as Romania vaatu Nash Tony he here but she's saying that she's I mean growing up in India so she knows no Shastras and all that body is gonna go one day she's aware of that okay so speak only in him da let him speak the English Lee so much merit but the hockey field work ik illusion Jessie create ogre eater of physically was Sadhna here or the sitter of Hamish's I saw so take a bus at him she knew it but now here it's becoming more clear to her also you know she misses also and instead of ungawa SS had hamesha oral well physically nearby she she he's not physically there anymore but he's all always better emotions wattage out they actually because of physical is your Hamish's is a trail a two-year deal Cornish is a new journey clear pure on each is it about carnage yeah yeah yeah I saw gibberish awesome emotions are coming and you know okay so basically there is a confusion as if he is not there and I can feel him you know so how to deal with closest ones death and that emotions and one thing is always he was there to guide like Lord Krishna so I never planned anything in life I was just going with flow so now there is a big question should I hear no and it because of as if he is not there I can feel super national power is there but you know because of he was like he is equal to God and always there and they were very close friend philosopher guide he was so there is a 20d is sometimes it fail you know you are going to recollecting all the memories and then you realize no he's not there and then again you feel also when you are praying was something you know if I'm doing something is blessing me and he's next to me so there is a illusion now he's there or was not because of if I talk about spirit or something and get us a name names hidden dishes not be higher key spirit is always there so I don't know how to deal with this emotions and feeling you know and she would you would you wish that he wasn't appearing in that way so you can have only one set of emotion do you wish that it's partially to when you know few memories you get upset and but obvious you don't like that and few it's really really Pleasant ma'am yes so my question is and it's quite a broad one you know father as physically lefties drop the body but because of the love and the connection you had with him with him also he is still very present and he's not just sparked speaking from the past only sometimes you can speak in the present moment ah so that's how much you have imbibed him and embraced him in your being so what you're saying but I don't know which were with with what to do because I'm having this mixed emotion I'm in normal normal daily time and then sometimes my emotions come because to do it my father is mixed with my sorrow that he's not here anymore but at the same time you know so I'm asking you would you prefer just to be in one zone meaning that you're only in daily life like this and that is like a memory and you have time to go and get this or him coming in spontaneously is destabilizing your flow would you want to be not that he comes anymore like that or you can enjoy both might not enjoy both what do you want when I came here I thought to start new journey as of how he was involved in routine life when I came here I gone through different experiences then question came in my mind should I plan anything for future or as if I was there as a free board because of when you plan things in the past about the future did they work out I never planned actually before now you don't need to plan now and you know then few memories comes but obvious as if he's not physically there so I just wonder how to deal with that so you get upset but obvious do they make you unhappy the memories you see you mentioned something else shall I to remind you you said your father was like a guru for you yes so not just father but like a guru meaning that he has a spiritual presence he would guide you for higher things yes in a higher way so his presence or the memory of his presence as a very positive you know inclusion in your life yep you know so you say how to deal with it what do you mean is it it when the fart when your father the memory of him or the sense of presence of him comes to you does it upset you or do you feel or father thank you for being here for me Oh what what is your feeling or is it just mixed mixed yes but everybody in the world is living with mixed feelings anyway it is a question of is your happy about it in what way do you feel that it may intrude upon the life flowing on from here would it be an asset or would it be sort of like a burden I said sundered asserts I'm sorry I said that's an acid yeah it's good it's good if the memory of father and the presence of father is supporting a higher level of consciousness in you be very grateful for that it's creates but tingles so then think off to start my love it's just 220 days you know we were always together in my professional world and overall life because of hymens such prohibition also so I'm bit scared you know once I back to my routine life may be you know not able to cope so should hey you know about everything in my mind and should I start and but obvious as due to what have you taken from being here how long have you been here in satsang here now investigation yes for the satsanghs here that's in duty supposed to come days the first day yes I came yesterday then I feel that as you you spend you intend to spend some more time here oh yeah coming on three forties yes that will make a difference if you are very much here and then you allow that the energy of satsang to be present with you and then it should make a difference without even trying if you're open is bound to make a difference and this cannot be anyone here who has been here for two or three days and it makes no difference it's just your what I came out of the way here because of absolutely open and but obvious how you know having that spiritual guidance throughout their life and but that's what you know and the situation practically see if loading is different and when it happened your you lost your closest one you know then you feel really it's practical world it's different yes one day all that we see and value all that we have loved all that you want all that you are attached to all that you perceive one day will become including the body you have everything that's not a sad thing actually it's only sad if you're clinging to to the things which are by nature changeful then you will grieve them there is a great wisdom behind the beings experiencing and exiting this plane of existence they don't go to a worse place you know so I would just say that that when they go is time for them to go it's not accident no time for them to go and then you you show gratitude for what they have brought to you and and bless their departure and their journey if there was a such a thing like that and nothing belong to you not even you belong to you everything is going wasn't said before I never you know hear his voice like you but when I came here I somehow I know got one reply from him behalf of him maybe you know like you people come across in future life and will get replies like father always you know that to guide me so upset was because of that also because of now here's no more I can't hear you like you right I can hug him but that's okay then that passing is saying to you now you can go by yourself and I will I will do everything in my power to bring you someone to guide you if you need but trust that and it's fine and don't spend too much time you know crying over this you know you have you have to accept it and some say you can also not accept it but I would rather encourage you to just accept that is leaving also is natural we all must spend a certain time here in this way and you move on some I don't know if you accept or not will have to return in another farm and carry on some business and some will finish finish the business and start the isness only booster thank you so much no need to start new thing and planet how it was before like I never planned anything it's I always go with flow but you know because of it happen came second thoughts and mind I should I plan it no because the father is not there so no don't plan don't plan if you you have something brought you here and it must be auspicious it must be for your good and just say thank you for this whatever I don't fully grasp as yet I have not taken it as much or you know maybe like this but I'm very open to this and please enlighten my mind with real understanding and so on made the way prepared the house yeah thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you can we have some money coming too okay ah yes the this is a translation of song anime Shri Guru Manama me read just the words of it that who is Shiva himself the eternal peace the face of non-duality and ultimate joy salutations to that guru that which is indestructible joy the illuminator of all senses Sachin Ananda the face of truth consciousness bliss salutations to that guru that which is not wavering formless beyond the three gunas the omnipresent in the entire universe the face of the light within salutations to that guru that who is shiva himself the eternal peace the face of non-duality and ultimate joy salutations to that guru from satsang comes none attachment from non attachment comes freedom from delusion which leads to self settlement from self settlement comes jeevan mukti liberation we should write some more songs at this in the West let's hear it beautiful beautiful beautiful thank you do you need no I can keep Shivam Shonda I'd throw them on and Adam [Music] Schrager UNAMI shave um Sean them I'd rate the mornin sri guru [Music] I searched on and over she could [Music] I said chewed on and she could all me nearly killed bum finita goddamn near a quorum Sekai labrum honda we all do here we cuddled bum made our goddamn miracle of Sakai labrum hard early autumn untied jyothi's wide open under jothee wide open quit on my mom me Shivam Shonda let's wait the morning [Music] Shri Guru [Music] Shivam Shonda I've delayed them on and at home sweet home nah mommy Shaco [Music] mee-shee satsanga three missing got one missing got a new heart a news channel news channel tree Jeevan [Applause] [Music] [Music] was passing you so as a pastor but this and he's turned around and then it was not you is you anyway [Applause] we got it yeah [Applause] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Applause] [Applause] [Applause] [Music] [Music] [Applause] [Applause] [Applause] [Music] you [Music]

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Published: Wed Feb 26 2020