What Happened To James Charles Was Inevitable - Here's Why We Believed Tati | TRO

hey you guys welcome to today's video obviously from the title you know that this is going to be intense different and this is absolutely not a video I ever thought in a million years that I would be making [Music] hello ladies and gentlemen and welcome to the right opinion the home of a [ __ ] with too much free time and who said internet drama was boring well many people but let's face it not too much has happened this year and the usual suspects such as Jake Poole have just appeared to fade into the background does people finally tire from having to expose them for whatever stupid thing they've done this month and it's not like they've stopped doing stupid stuff it's Jake Paul we want new drama some new people to ruin hooray we love that that's the spirit so let's talk about the beauty community in 2018 I made a video on the beauty community it wasn't perfect I mean no video truly is who are the greatest points that I raised was that they were kind of taking over a significant proportion a drama from previous communities and with the rise of the beauty oriented drama channels to really embellish on that niche it only meant as subsequent dramas were going to gain more traction but why does so many people seem to care about the drama in this specific community on principle is it because it's a lot equivalent to the sort of drama you get in a cliche TV show based on high school experience yeah in fact everyone's always throwing shade each other and that makes it a bit entertaining equally they all purport to have this goody two-shoes persona is always like some moral battle so when someone does do something that we perceive as shitty we're ready to drag them out onto the dance floor now what makes a drama somewhat seismic in its impact many people would say to the point that it invokes a loss of subscribers on to a channel and to be honest we haven't raised seen that much this year but like waiting for buses to came along at once Pro Jared and James Charles now as I declared my tweet I'm still very interested in the projared situation it seems that at the time he hid behind the way of outrage against James Charles let's make it so the tie doesn't leave him at the shore either way I'm hoping that there's still more to come on this situation so I decided to focus on today's the beauty community for all its makeup has some real savagery lying underneath and we witnessed that last year when Jeffrey star got into drum with a few people own most notoriously Manny mu a and Laura Lee and when the court of public opinion came out in favor of stark damage was dealt that can still be with is to this day the beauty community is truly brutal a cheeky expose or well-placed drama can destroy anyone and the effects are long-term you don't see that in many other places so I saw that today's subject James chance was experiencing a decrease in subscribers of unprecedented amounts well it didn't surprise me looking at how cutthroat the beauty community has the capability to be but even with that said it's more than that James Charles is not just any ordinary Beauty crater in fact it was so fun and so fresh drum roll please that we decided to do it Oh summer long James Charles is the 19 year old Lance on whatever number of subscribers he's on at the time of this video's release but for the last few months he's been a huge name in the beauty community for better and for worse a one hand his personality although not my cup of tea no pun intended is pretty memorable he has a great way of establishing hooks especially with the phrase sister which at this point I'm surprised his management haven't sister trademarked it he's a creative flamboyant guy with a lot of going for him like every channel he's got into a bit of drama here and there but nothing prominent enough to really gain attention outside the people who already seeking drama and as mentioned drama for beauty channels is pretty much a daily event that's a prom with drama sometimes it becomes so common that no one is honestly surprised by it and therefore it lacks any greater effect this changed however on the 10th of May when tatty Westbrook another Beauty crater dropped a video by the name of bye sister they play on James's iconic phrase in which she documents why in spite of her extensive history supporting and working with him she no longer wants to associate with him these entail a series of criticisms that relate back to the way he is treated his friends his inappropriate behavior at certain events the fact that he promoted a brand that would be sensitive to younger children despite the fact that he has said to tarty that he wouldn't promote hers due to the age of his demographic and the real kicker that everyone has honed in on his predatory behavior for which he has a strange obsession with chasing and supposedly trying to persuade straight men to sleep with him all this when presented in a very classy mature tone that he seems to emanate all over our work was enough not just do completely halts all of James chances momentum but to cause the greatest sub loss in YouTube's history in fact in one day he lost over a million subscribers which is astonishing following this it was like the Davin broken and a flurry of allegations came crashing down on him many alleging that he had a habit of catfishing and manipulating straight guys into various positions metaphorical positions that is on top of this a load of further accusations Dre various range of sources came forward some more true than others but they all received incredible levels of attention however like anything they will always follow backlash and like this again many people came forward to dispute many things some the verifiability of the claim some Tati's own motivations and refrain from speaking out sooner I mean PewDiePie made a video covering a lot of this on top of this it was revealed that some additional claims have been completely falsified thus leading to more collateral drama relating back to James's career now one hand I was pleased I was one step closer to becoming the most subscribed gay James on the platform on the other I felt there was a bit more to the story so I put out a tweet asking people if they had any opinions themselves and what they wanted me to look into and discuss because although I had my own line there is still a lot to clear up and although I do have one clear statement in mind today I'll be covering all of these topics and explaining why I personally believe this situation was inevitable exactly why this detail is very important and why it has created many more problems in regards to our own judgment of the situation and how this was exposed when James finally did come forward I don't think I really have too much else to add so I suggest we move in and see exactly what I mean [Music] while the hot takes circulating around Twitter currently is with all the drama that James Charles has been involved in why was it this one that should have taken him down is it just because straight people are looking to reinforce their fears against the scary gays especially when throughout the last few years James Charles has supposedly been involved in multiple scandals with various people and various allegations I mean he really did have to catch them all racism transphobia inappropriate comments towards others and alleged exploitation of fans but this all in mind guys why wasn't it cancelled immediately was it because if James Charles came to your house with Ben Shapiro in blackface the heteros would be more concerned about Ben Shapiro safety as hilarious as that thought would be and I'm not suggesting it's completely after the question is not exactly the case you see the Devils in the details the way we can understand these previous dramas is actually as strong foundations for why people were so ready to turn on James Charles when the time came so let's look at them explain why they contributed to the scenario of why he ultimately got away from them and James Charles is an impulsive person I don't think that statement is remotely controversial in many ways that is what made him so monumentally popular his speed of conversation and energy during videos really enhances his charisma in many ways however equally it means that he does not have a filter many like to envision their favorite craters as just only thinking lovely wholesome thoughts throughout their career but that's a load of [ __ ] the truth is you can think of anything at any time the most twisted broken and often offensive thoughts that you keep inside your twisted minds to satisfy that craving of darkness that many have the problem is most public figures know exactly how many of those thoughts would be received if they decide to say it out loud James Charles probably has some level of that but clearly lacks the judgment that other figures in the beauty community had and that we found in many tweets and even videos even ones that aren't inherently offensive which is why he often says stuff then deletes it ten minutes later because the emotional flashbang that went off in his head telling him publicly airing his laundry was a great idea suddenly didn't seem such a fantastic initiative however his greatest weakness is also his greatest defense because a lot of times he'll retract a comment Bay quickly and apologize from the bottom of his heart and a lot of people don't like to go after people who've apologized and pledged to do better because an apology is meant to be a resolution the only time we might pursue it further is if we feel the apology isn't genuine and therefore we think they'll keep up these habits a lot of people didn't want to be seen as just continuously dragging someone out over stuff that they'd already apologized for however it did build a lot of resentment in people who have their suspicions about his intentions and probably gave people an impetus to really come down on him when these videos inevitably came so what needed to change about these scandals that would suddenly bring him down I mean all the stuff that had happened Canon slowed his momentum another thing was because the main scandals weren't too frequent they'd often happen with some time between them it never really had the capacity to snowball because it kind of happened in briefs births of interest rather than one continuous ongoing scenario and although there were people with clear vendetta's against him they're not going to be the ones subscribed to him now when various scandals arise the biggest problem with public response is that often takes the form of many different narratives so if we take James chances tweets for example the one about Ebola some may say this proves James chances a racist and should be canceled others might say well I don't think he's a racist and shouldn't be cancelled but he should apologize and because of this dissent within the group of critics you're going to have trouble outshining James Charles's response because he'll present one narrative that represents his mindset is like party politics and in a way it's not an inherently unhealthy thing but James Charles will present his perspective and with all that momentum behind him he's going to get the backing of people who want to believe he's an impulsive lad who just can't think straight sometimes essentially if James Charles was going to actually have a wake-up call you'd need one person to bring a singular narrative forward infiltration had to come from the inside and that could only come from a crater not just in the beauty community but one with experience and one with respect sort of figure who has the power to giveth and taketh away also given the closure on a lot of these previous incidents a person who caused them out would also have to be typically calling them out for new drama or drama that at least james charles hadn't personally addressed or face down any consequences for this is where we introduced artie westbrook tardy westbrook is one of the most senior craters in the beauty community she's 37 years of age and owner of the company halo beauty which sells products related to skin hair and nail treatment primarily as someone with a few more years on her she definitely comes across with a bit more dignity than most she also has an extensive history of working with James Charles and a constant run of promoting his products and supporting him so it's very likely there is a significant overlap in audiences between the two creators this is an important point to note people like I'm Alex and so on can call out James Charles any day of the week it won't have a huge effect because firstly as a perceived outsider these craters carry less credibility in their experience and secondly there's just not the same overlap in audience that can cause an exodus from James's channel all of these factors make tarty an important puzzle piece but what was the fresh drama well there's this event called Coachella this is a pretty popular music festival that is attended by many icons and when James got there shock horror he needed security who would have thought but do not fear a company by the name of sugar bear hair had a contract and would help them out if he could promote their fantastic products so he did but sugar bear hair is a primary competitor of halo beauty and tarty felt upset by this so she posed a story to her instagram explaining her upsets and although not calling mount pretty much implying that she was talking about james james seeing this after the expiration of his promotion post a public response stating he was sorry to tarty and wasn't thinking about it at the time very typical James Charles so the drums over right right wrong you hey you guys welcome to today's video obviously from the title you know that this is gonna be intense different and this is absolutely not a video I ever thought in a million years that I would be making you see in many ways there were many people ready to pounce on a significant anti James Charles story there have been people discussing it for ages but only tarty Westbrook could make it the perfect storm of destruction whether that was her intention I cannot say I think it would have been hard to foresee such an outcome but it's what happens and it was enabled by all the previous factors considered however with that said a good exposed video would still require a careful sensitivity about it however using the templates of last year's drama you could identify what works not being over emotional establishing credibility not just as a person with experience but also a person with positive intent there's something about him that I just adore and love and he'll grow out of this and he'll mature and I want to be someone that can give him solid advice and there's something in my heart that is pulled to him and I love him and I am there for this kid it's a ruin through and I really have been and there's so much that you guys don't know I'm providing a valid set of reasons for why you're doing what you're doing and I'm gonna share a lot of it with you because I feel at this point that I have to because Gabriel's more I decided to drag me out on the dance floor by calling me out my name in a video that he made about opinions and makeup now as ternal presentation goes it's really a masterstroke in every area tarty seems calm but not disinterested it's a video that carries a lot of dignity and exactly what chances critics would have wanted in harming his reputation of course there was very little actual evidence but circumstantially to a community everything added up when taking someone down the key is to undermine their Redeem ability this is dispatched by early on in the first few minutes by tarty who presents herself as one of the people who has openly defended James Charles and given him multiple opportunities to redeem himself and for someone that I helped when no one would asking for absolutely nothing in return never asking for a payback never asking for a dime any of the deals that were structured if anyone ever offered a kickback we'd say no put it in James's pocket help James help him you know anytime I had an opportunity to help him make money I would if I could give him advice I did if he needed a safe landing I was here I have so much empathy for people and I really want to see people grow and step into themselves and I'm more the person to ask like well what made you feel that you needed to do XYZ like what what happened to you or like why do you feel like you need to do that I can't be the person to point and write people off very quickly like it takes a lot for me to really want to not be associated with someone and so I've always had a really forgiving heart because I know to get here I've required a lot of forgiveness myself if we believe someone can get better then we're more likely to forgive them however there's a point of no return where that tolerance is broken by presenting yourself as one Charles's biggest defenders she also made her attack all the more damaging and the way she expresses herself is extremely relatable I have many people who I know I've taken the sword of wise man figuring even though I think they probably done some really stupid [ __ ] many of us believe in people's capability to get better especially when it's our friends and tarty clearly shows herself as a friend who has just lost that tolerance with the new drama she and fresh allegations show that he's been behaving in the same way that he has been and importantly she focuses on the responses and therefore underlying to redundancy often things were said that I cannot on here at my dining room table I cannot unhear it when I confronted him on it he cried he apologized and you need someone to tell you to stop it and that's exactly what I did in your kitchen in front of Gabriel's and Morris I had to call every one of them up the next morning and apologize on your behalf because it was so uncomfortable and I've continued to do that but it's just all kind of stacking up right now like this she essentially makes it so if he apologizes and no longer carries the effect that previous apologies had because people are skeptical of the genuine sentiments behind it because tarty is testifying that he did the same thing to her it was about image protection rather than actually feeling bad so in that line of defence tarty went in with serious allegations oh my god you tried to trick a straight man into thinking he's gay yet again and somehow you're the victim you know it's really disgusting to manipulate someone's sexuality especially when they are still you know emerging into adulthood and don't quite have everything figured out you are using your fame your power your money to play with people's emotions you're threatening to ruin them your threatening to embarrass them and you're doing that to have them behave sexually in your favor even if they're straight and you know what that's not okay now there were a fair few claims but I thought we'd focus in on one primarily because this has been the source of the most controversy in a video that was later posted by the waiter in question he states that he was quote bicurious but after the engagement felt like he was straights on one hand this doesn't completely reflect Westbrook's retelling of the story but on the other hand the dm's the waiter showed clearly demonstrates a coercive side of Charles telling this person he wasn't actually straight even if it does come across as more desperate than anything Charles was definitely the assertive one in this scenario and also the one with significant amount of power and James's retelling of the event doesn't quite reflect the dmz either I was traveling and the next day he told me he was back and I did screenshot here somewhere at that time I was quite curious hey so thank you so much she was super super supportive and I told her that I wanted to come visit you and I've thought about it a lot and I had talked to her and I actually think that I am straight so I'm not gonna go I was pretty sure I was straight so I pulled him in a long text message with all this in mind to tarty continues to record situations in which James behaved improperly and then recalls the most recent situation over sugar bear are you kidding me hey you say you don't like this brand at all and then it would be embarrassing so like stick with that like stick to what you speak practise what you preach you say that you're the realest you can't be bought well you just were I don't think you were in a dangerous situation I really don't you know farewell how crowds are so if you did think there was gonna be a dangerous situation I think you would have brought your own security you say you don't like the brand you I'm sure hadn't tried the product for more than a week because they offered you that deal on the spot at Coachella and nine days later you had the story so you hadn't even tried it for a full month names always said that he couldn't promote halo on his channel and really do like you know heavy endorsement was because he has a teenage audience and it would just be inappropriate you sold out me but you threw away our friendship but you lied to me made up a story you knew this would be embarrassing for me no our relationship is not transactional I have never asked you for anything in return and you kept it up for 24 hours of course I didn't want to call you back but then you go and post an apology and you can't even mention my brand name like I'm not an idiot I know what contracts look like I know what the exclusivity look like and it just smelled rotten to me you don't get to the success that James charles has without knowing how to work someone and I don't want to be worked I don't want to be manipulated and I tried everything that I could but I don't matter to him right now I'm only a like a piece in his game and everything is a game and I'm tapping out no longer does it look like James Charles impossibly sell of a sponsor to sort himself security and then have a case of immediate regret and took it down it seems like a calculated move dressed up as an impulsive one to try and make tarty and other viewers feel sympathy when he apologizes he no longer has the same impression on the audience tardies video shot James into a corner into which there was nothing he could say unless any of the clones were false and tarty already made the assertion that she has receipts - Tati and James Westbrook I'm sorry for everything that is going on everything that I've put you through over the past few weeks and well that's the thing takis video didn't represent a revelation that james charles messes up or hurts people because a lot of people already knew that it represented the idea that james chance will continue to mess up because the consequences he's received for his previous transgressions were not enough to actually make him feel remorseful and the coachella situation is central to that in fact tardy is basically applying that he staged a situation thus throwing into contention his previous apologies this is serious stuff but why is it a problem if everything appears so cut and dry let's discuss that and why it served us poor shadowing for the revelation that not everything was completely true James Charles's copious amounts of viewer trust was hanging on the thread of a singular concept and tatty Kant that and with that came a tidal wave of people just wanting to destroy him his response video was a mess he should have never responded in the state that he was in cement in the phrase my truth as my new least favorite combination of words i've already told me truth about this twice and instead of talking about it for a third time and explaining it and going into detail and pulling up receipts and as it worse and more and more people came forward regarding james and his very strange behavior including setting his gender as female and tinder to try and get straight guys to get with him i think he genuinely does have a problem many people watched auntie's video and many people sided with her because even without receipts at the time a lot of it felt valid including the notion of mentoring people in that belief that they can grow into mature important figures in the community because of the talent that they have and it made sense you could understand why she wouldn't speak up at first we want to believe in people's ability to improve but i think the fact that people were so keen to unequivocally destroy james Charles made people overlook some legitimate criticisms and buy into any single story about him the one that probably received the worst internet treatment were the accusations that he behaves in a predatory fashion now from what we see about James Charles is that he's a juvenile entitled child who needs to be pulled down to earth he has a perpetual victim complex when he doesn't get what he wants and his obsession with chasing straight people is unhealthy but so many people took this narrative without evidence without substantiation and bought into additional stories that were and i don't often use this word slanderous there was this story that painted james is a sexual asylum there was another that basically implied he was a pedo and this person went to lengths of editing and keyframing to falsify the DMS and they would have spread further if they had been recognized by my fantastically talented colleague john swan okay so these screenshots these are sketch so these both the screenshots here from the DM nothing seems suspect at first it all seems pretty normal these artifacts just live like Twitter artifacts we can see the resolution here is the same on both the pictures this is important pop this on top of the other layer we can see look at this status bar at the top why does that move that should not move look that's moving several pixels this is this shouldn't happen nothing's been cropped off it's the same resolution this is in a crop everything's moved that's not what an iPhone does come over here look at the pictures why is one picture bigger than the other picture this is photoshopped this is not real definitely sketch receipts are particularly important in bringing people to justice it's hard for main victims to come forward often however the problem with the incident is that it provides a veil of anonymity which enables more power to people because they can invade the repercussions this person recreated false visual DMS and after they were cooled out they simply deleted their account it's not hard in the modern era to completely fake claims and what has subsequently been shown and although James clearly has a problem with the way he carries himself as far as we know he's not a nonce and not someone who has done some of these terrible things yet many of those tweets received tens of thousands of likes and retweets and many people who probably saw it don't know the truth when attacked one person tried to use the invalidation of experiences as a defense which is disgusting given how they're invalidating other experiences and how this person Cleef L comfortable to stoke than out of the game n of predators I mean there are more than enough claims that he was behaving in a completely unacceptable fashion and misusing his responsibilities but there is just nothing some people won't do in the digital age for a drop of clouds we should always be critical even to claims against people we don't like all in all it was a sad demonstration in mob mentality but ultimately unless James actively responds to these claims I can't really comment so I guess we'll just leave it here Taji did release an additional video but it didn't really add much to discussion other than a suppression of the reaction that's just how it goes I guess they don't want the drummer anymore we may never know the truth anyhow I hope you enjoyed that video I want to give a big shout out to the effort what he's responded [ __ ] days following parties video there was eventually a swelling among some commentators that she wasn't being honest I could completely see where they were coming from and in many ways the lack of evidence was cause for concern however a lot of the testimony was allegedly based on private conversation of which I could understand why both parties might be hesitant to release and given James's dumpster fire of an initial response it did seem hard to deny there was of course other testimonies such as the waiters that did appear to some will contradict the stories once again he could have been leaving out context honestly anyone could have either way something didn't sit right and the critics were on something and then James clap back in James's video titled no more lies he reversed momentum on two tarty and onto Geoffrey star who had also made some quite inflammatory tweets some suggested that he hadn't / wouldn't clap back because the momentum was so unequivocally against him there was no way he could respond it would turn the tide if he was genuinely innocent however I didn't believe that was the case and this is important but also still kind of surprising for many people people believe tatty on face value for most of reasons that I discussed in my previous parts but I also described her as a highly credible person within the community many people from the outside from commentary were very skeptical and understandably so but in the beauty community she's a reputable figure what does that credibility in shoo exactly well when we look at her history she's a bit more of a senior figure she's amateur has her own business doesn't really look like she has much to gain on the surface as mentioned the vitamin situation may have well been a motivation but she's losing a friendship which she clearly valued right and Charles allegedly had many connections that she would be ostracized from - the odds were so stacked against her it almost seemed assert as she be doing this for personal gain from many people's perspectives on top of this many people in the beauty community were well accustomed to tart ease rather on bowl stance on much of the drama at that stage you'd expect people to be above such menial things surely and so it must have been really bad that she'd have to intervene circumstantially it made sense and therefore people just accept it and that effect magnified herself what added credibility was the fact that she said she and receipts remember that that's the Plainfield that we're on and I have to go there just know my receipts my receipts are like stacked thick people don't always want to release prior receipts they're normally held is more captive until someone challenges them even though we hadn't seen too much many people saw as a fairly airtight case I mean if she had receipts what would James Charles do show them before posting my stories I actually did text haughty first out of respect for her giving her heads up about the sponsorship but she was immediately upset I tried my best to kind of explain the entire situation and also gave her a direct apology as well but at this point I had signed the contract and I absolutely had to post it there was no getting out of it of all days I made countless attempts to contact both Tonti and her husband James on all their different phone numbers I texted and called Tates business number her family number and also James's personal phone number as well after a full entire week of trying to reach out and handle things in private with taunting her husband James and getting no response I figured at this time it'd be best to just respect their space give them the privacy and that whenever talk to his ready she would reach back out to me to handle things in private and hopefully move on with our friendship we said that he couldn't promote Hale on his channel and really do like you know heavy endorsement it was because he has a teenage audience and it would just be an appropriate no this thing was just confusing to me mostly because this conversation never actually happened I love you guys know my channel you know that I don't really do dedicated product reviews I've heard which is what Tati is known for but even though that is the case I have still multiple times that talked about our products all my social media networks I have to worry okay I forgot to say tail hello I'm going to a really important event later on tonight my best friend we are going to yes this is true and this is a very important launch suite because it is my best friend to multi it she's launching something new on halo beauty I'm super proud of her by the tennis videos oh it will already be up so go check it out probably for talk to clubs models who doesn't need a little beauty boost every now and then to the following statements are real claims made by the original halo beauty booster so oh wait are the real can I just say I love you guys for putting a halo question in there right I love you for that [Laughter] the Imus Liberty thing is really incredibly frustrating to me because this is an inside joke between my friends and I had that Tati is also participated in and she twisted this to be something far worse than what it is I'm going to try my best to make it a long story very short the next day Sampson into my DMS first and I happened to see it we started talking back and forth and he mentioned that he was flattered by me flirting with him at the night before head sorry about last night you're very attractive and then I was it's all gated very flattering actually a few minutes in the conversation I asked about his sexuality and he told me straight up that he was bisexual oh my god you tried to trick a straight man into thinking he's gay there was no straight man of being manipulated anywhere in this story like Tati mentioned Sam texted me saying he was fully gay but it was a trap to get me on FaceTime so he could illegally record the conversation to include in the video that he was planning later on like I said at the end of the conversation I asked Sam how he came to this conclusion and then he told me he was not fully gay to which I hung up out of frustration later on he texted me saying he was confirmed by this is why in Sam's video he included a screenshot of me telling him I did not think he was fully straight this comment had a lot of people really upset and confused as to why I was telling somebody their sexuality but there's a very simple explanation Sam when I talked for a very very long time and his sexuality like I said wavered a lot every time that he was a little bit confused we had open and honest conversations about it and he always asked me of my input and I gave it to him I would never out somebody and I have never ever tried to manipulate somebody's sexuality including his Point Blank period yeah I guess he could there aren't as many layers to this video star tease because there doesn't need to be what you need to do is refute the evidence primarily and go at tar t's credibility and he did with nuclear effect he pretty much mirrored tar t's very calm composed tone and have ever to back it up he went for the core underlying sentiments in the video he managed to debunk the idea that he wasn't reaching out to her he didn't waste time on her comments about how much she had helped him he dealt with the boy in Seattle and showed that boys perspective is rather false he also went to the false allegations and showed how mob mentality ran through even the most celebrated popular figures such as zara larsson he pretty much went for every single system that drove the initial reaction and that was important it wasn't just isolated situations he went at the individual constructs white artis video existed in the first place dispatch why people have a problem with his behavior dispatched why are people reacting in the way that they did dispatched there were always going to be people who were reluctant to hear him out but that did not matter at the core of it was an irrefutable statement of defiance to people who had called him out there basically nothing other than a few sporadic statements and as he showed the ayedee the fabricated or overblown those ones it allowed him to apologize in places and for people to be okay with it because after all if his accusers of that bad then surely James deserves another chance rights however it was not over and someone who immediately became the center of attention was Jeffrey stop a few hours later while I was getting ready for the Met Gala I got this text from Jeffrey me concerned but mostly really really confused I reached out to him about meeting together in private in hopes to speak together and figure out the misunderstanding but he didn't reply and by the time I was about to hit publish I received at another text from Jeffrey stone I've already cleared up Sam and our nights together be 100% consensual he was absolutely not trapped in a hotel room but Jeffrey also brings up Zack Zack is his boyfriend mates brother and not what did I not pursue Zack who identifies his mainly straight but it was actually Jeffrey who suggested that I talk to him in the first place mainly strain alright if your ally and uh-huh and he just moved here were a few days later on Monday I woke up again in the middle of the night from a phone call my little brother Ian who was very very upset he told me he had tweeted saying why do people act so tough online about somebody from his hometown who was bullying him and a Jeffrey star of all people had quote tweeted Ian's tweet saying why is her brother a predator why don't you really move back to New York City exactly shut the [ __ ] up many people were quick to call out Jeffrey for bullying a kid who had nothing to do with this situation literally at all and he deleted the tweet after this I went to check my phone and notice that Jeffrey had texted me a few minutes prior and I opened my phone to this I really want to read this text out loud just so you all get to hear exactly what I had to read but also so I don't miss anything Grayson as well on camera shortly to finally tell the world how you tried to molest him and touch him in his sleep and made him uncomfortable for months you sick [ __ ] next Zach will be when I can't learn to tell how twisted and sick you were trying to get him to like you and then make him feel bad when he didn't want to send you photos back then Sam from Seattle will be joining me in Cameron to talk about you trapping him in his hotel room you need to be locked in prison for a very long time you need the internet taken away from you you are a danger to society this was something else Geoffrey Starr did this this is disgusting it is defamatory it is actually shocking the song with Jeffery stars clowns and power would ever send something like that without the actual evidence to back it up he just accuse someone of attempting to molest grayson dolan what this is where I really started to feel for James's case because this is just too far Jeffrey also sent a message to James's friend too which is just insane and on top of this he seems so nice to his accusers who pedaled this narrative person for us I do want to issue a thank you - both Jeffrey and Tati or taking some of the responsibility for blowing this whole thing up and for starting everything I really respect that a lot and I also appreciate the fact that they are trying to redirect the hate away because I think we're all aware at this point that it has gotten way too far if I've known anything about talk to you over the past three years it says she has a huge huge heart there's no denying that and I think that or I do believe her when she says that she did not want this to get so vile I don't really think any of us thought I was gonna be as big as it really was why would he do this well maybe one more twist was around the corner as a response to the video Jeffrey put out multiple tweets stating that he had evidence he had receipts and tatty implied the James was thoroughly dishonest I mean there have been so many twists and turns in this saga we were ready for more right what did we get there was a lot happening behind the scenes and I think today I would like to shed some light on the entire experience because I think that things are getting crazy dangerous and we need to have a conversation hmmm [Music] emerging subscribers and with the anticipation on him to expose James Charles's lies Geoffrey Starr released his video never doing this again it revealed absolutely nothing and left me feeling rather irritated likewise it left some people in the community rather satisfied because as soon as he released it he began gaining back the respect and subscribers that he had lost now most of you have seen some brutal tweets that I sent out last week a lot of you have seen the vicious text messages that I sent and I want to let you understand something because I said those things that does not equal me hating James Charles i sat there yesterday and I started to get really angry I was gonna pull voice memos I was gonna pull old text messages from other people that don't want to be involved and I was just getting into a place where it wasn't healthy okay today I know what people want they want me to sit here and degrade James they want me to open up my phone and expose it all I'm done doing that and it may be shocking some of you may be like oh you're just trying to save your own ass are you a liar are you this I'm willing to bite the bullet and let anyone think what they want but today I will not be posting voice memos I will not be posting text messages I will not be exposing anything more this has to stop did I jump the gun on a situation that I didn't fully understand and chime absolutely and I am living with that every day there's a lot of questions about my tweets and I want to say that I regret them I don't regret much in my life but I regret hitting the send button because they were bigger and louder than I ever imagined and it made things worse when I could have handled things and privately and that is something I'm working on I'm embarrassed in myself I'm embarrassed for my family that they have to see things online and I'm sad that Nathan and my friends have to go online and deal with this as well because of my actions I know who I am and this beauty community right now is suffering and I'm really sad that everything is going on and I know that may be hard to believe because there are so many people that have opinions they think that I get off on drama I think that anytime there's a situation I insert myself it's been a really quiet year for me and I didn't want this to happen and I should have known better in the video he basically stated that although he could release evidence he won't because he's so virtuous and doesn't want to stoke the bitter fire of drama that is currently burning because it could cause so much pain I mean he has voiced members that could destroy James Charles and all the disgusting things he's done but he's not gonna release them because we all need time to heal in spite of the fact that he's an alleged danger to society I hate to get all overly moral about this but I believed him better from these people my mistake such a huge proportion of the LGBT community have to suffer through sexual assaults and given how prominent the LGBT community is in the beauty community you think they'd be a bit more sensitive to throwing around allegations like their Paper Planes I'm not in the beauty community so this video will have very little impact it's a take away for all my viewers who choose to watch it but I really feel that jeffree star overstepped a line here he not only threatened James chance with evidence that he refuses to release the allegations themselves related to sexual assaults personal to me so take my opinion with a grain of salt when Tati's video came out I was open to some of the claims and until James's response I defended the possibility of them because such behavior is a serious matter James was fairly quiet for a few days and I'm lived him better from a community that seeks to empower people after Geoffrey's video I was annoyed and expected a more volatile reaction for such a transparent act of manipulation and instead James accepted them back with open arms it is unsettling and let's get this clear the reason that this was patched up so quickly was because of business it was one beneficial for them but they resolve their differences right now and I understand that but ultimately that's what confused me about this situation tarty has been a person with a level of credibility she's done so well for herself I gave her the benefit of the doubt for a long time because I could not imagine her lying I also gave her the benefit of the doubt because James Charles is an icon with a ton of people backing him and therefore every single claim she'd make would have to be true it didn't make sense to me that she'd lie because even if James Charles was an unstable mess there was no way that the numerous people behind him wouldn't help him form some sort of coherent response and he did but it'd still be muses with me why they released that video in the first place I guess I was wrong but it still doesn't add up every now and then I just think it's a ruse for Shane Dawson's documentary or some social experiment on mob mentality because honestly that would make more sense but then I realized that you were dealing with scenarios that heat huge subscriber damage and I think it has to be legit right nor would conspire to carry such a force thing out in one of its texts every compares James to Manny you can't discard James Charles like you wouldn't Manny or laura-leigh because James Charles has an undeniable appeal that transcends scandal as seen again and again which is why he was growing at an unassailable rapes either this is a ruse or tarty and Geoffrey really aren't as smart all they knew the audience would come back which it appears they might be but is Sir bird up in the air and it also annoys me that they would begin to throw around such allegations as ammunition for petty drama as mentioned there are a lot of victims in the community it seemed so insensitive that Geoffrey would even consider sending such a threats but maybe because the community is so inherently dramatic these things carry less gravity it's disappointing the such vindictive behavior is validated because the community is already vindictive enough and even though James child may emerge with a few scratches and bruises whoever subjected next to the drama may not have this curtsies because by then it will be boring to the outside world the beauty community is a community like no other Creators have gone out to destroy each other's careers and yet have had them embolden the one really interesting take that I'd like to finish on is that you can have all the circumstantial evidence to corroborate a story and that was the case for Tati she had so many boxes ticked for going to the store isn't the same as getting the receipt and when it came to the cold hard evidence James had it and yet we were all led on because the explanation appealed to our biases and made sense but when it came down to the line we were misled and although they may have patched it up a sour taste may linger for me it does at least so yes that's the video what on this one been on the grind of course if there are new developments I might have to make another one but obviously it's only gonna be if it's significant enough to necessarily turn the tide and I really like making moral videos on one situation but I guess that does come across and my content a little I would love to hear your thoughts nonetheless I would love to give a big shout out to the editors who have once again done a fantastic job I also need to give a big thanks to my patreon on screen right now thank you for your generosity and also my $50.00 patreon some hullabaloo thank you again and my hundred dollar patreon Brandon and evening steel thank you very much the generosity is really appreciated especially when times get tricky with YouTube there being a bit Dicky recently I don't like them again I don't react to much else to say if you need to hit me up Twitter at the right opinion Facebook discord I'm in those too you can get me wherever that sounded a bit weird but who cares but until then I'm the right opinion and I will see you in the next one [Music] [Music] [Music]

Channel: The Right Opinion

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Id: r2U3pPmQ1oE

Length: 48min 14sec (2894 seconds)

Published: Wed May 29 2019

Reddit Comments

[u/JessicaTheThrowaway]

How did anyone listen to Tati's bullshit? She literally says melatonin is bad for you, she's dumb and only did this because her shitty fake vitamins didn't get picked over sugar bear shit.

-edit- also why does anyone like jeffree star? He was like the more flamboyant version of blood on the dance floor and he worked with them for fucks sake! He should have been cancelled before he ever became a thing.