Is Civil War Coming To America? - Leftovers #4

this civil war is here brother that's right that's right stash your guns boys yeehaw we're back the leftovers baby what a show we have in the 10 trillion dollar studio alex jones is crying right now at how spectacular our studio got more expensive because you know joe biden inflation the tax lumber process hussein pecker i love that i'm just i'm just saying things that like agitate conservatives or things that conservatives are saying you know well you know we have so much show to get to today it amazes me how much content there is every week and this isn't even like election season oh yeah wait till trump is announcing and ready to go he's like kind of already teasing it i can't wait uh i was talking to matt walsh on my on my other podcast yesterday from not the fascist matt walsh the good one from ucb and veep and uh he was saying that uh he saw signs up and i think it was like maybe in maine he saw signs that said 2024 donald trump the revenge tour oh if they're gonna kill it as a revenge tour i don't know i mean that's like he's ready yeah i'm here for the revenge tour people that's right get out your muskets fix in bayonets boy the civil war is coming where's your daddy uh today's episode is sponsored by raycon we love them folks don't we thank you thank you now first of all we have a little bit of controversy from last week we've got but we'll get to that uh first thing i want to do here today is talk about ben shabibo ben shapiro basically responding um to you making money unacceptable yeah he he's so right dude i was watching this clip and i was like this guy is such a [ __ ] liar yeah every point he brings up against you is [ __ ] first of all that you agree with and addressed yeah and he it's just unbelievable let's just pull it up he was seething it was awesome dude he was his face was all he was angry he was like he was like mad that you know i was like how can there be a successful socialist broadcaster that's like only backed by his community and not you know millionaire donors uh anyway you also ratio them was pretty epic hit uh your video got substantially more views than his that's crazy yeah he's got like what like four million subs too yeah i was surprised it didn't really ban hit off for him yeah i mean he was he was late to the game he's failing the culture war yeah that's why he's like uh that's why he's doing tick tock react videos now like that's what he does now oh yeah he does them all the time and they do well no because there's a lot of weird cringe [ __ ] on take dog you know no way wait i gotta look at that real fast hold on i don't know inside your walls ben yeah that is so oh that's a good usage oh yeah um ben shapiro tick tock i didn't know that was popping off yeah he's just been like doing a lot of like i think he's having a hard time juicing his content you know what i mean they i mean they're probably killing it on facebook i haven't really checked their analytics recently always but like on youtube it's just like and not too great because like the culture war stuff it's the algorithm bro yeah so algo is getting crushing his world yeah it's not good so he's got to do whatever he can here's one that has uh six million views ben shapiro destroys insane far left tick-tocker yeah yeah it's stuff like that oh no no i didn't mean he's on tick-tock i meant he watches a lot of this is the daily wire i didn't even know that that existed oh he watched he's watching no no he didn't talk like react compilation i mean that's the equivalent of crowder going out to a college campus and owning yeah freshmen i mean i do it too i i love it but like i'm not above that kind of content i'm not i wasn't billed as the intellectual gladiator of the right by the new york times you know what i mean shout outs out the barry weiss so here let's see sexual people are asexual people who still desire a sexual relationship but don't experience sexual attraction qposexual people may decide to have a sexual relationship despite not feeling sexual attraction while others don't both are completely valid and communication is key hope i could help check out my vampire kid explains for more it did it helped it helped i i now understand nothing about what just happened [ __ ] it all to work to come up with sexual minorities now right we have such a viciously intolerant brutal sexist heteronormative sex patriarchal society we have alienated so many people that they have to work so hard to come up with being a member of a sexual minority that usage like a person who didn't want to have sex but who sometimes has sex how do you exactly do you like identify personally we didn't want to have sex you know that maybe couldn't have sex that was uncapable of like i don't know like me in high school and in college and basically all my adult life just incapable of you know fighting a girl to sleep with me i feel completely alienated it's just like ben shapiro is owning a literal 14 year old yeah totally like a literal 14 year old wearing like funny unicorn outfit on their face sometimes you're into the section you're no longer sexual but this is the thing it's all fluid right you could be whatever you want at any time and no one has to verify any of this you just declare yourself what are you declaring what are you trying who verifies your sexuality what is that okay so so so when i was 13 my my parents verified my sexual they weren't sure if i was a boy or a girl and it was very normative for you know for example my rabbi to you know circumcise me and then suck my bleeding penis i didn't say any of that i can't believe the things that he's saying here well i'm jewish so i can say that i just i don't even know what that was i'm not even laughing at it well as you know there's a practice and even in israel they don't do it no i should clarify i'm familiar i'm familiar with the jokes i have jewish friends like i i know i'm explaining for the people oh okay yeah but yeah there is a pr it's i don't think they maybe they probably still do it but even in israel i think it's probably illegal but traditionally when you circumcise uh a babe this when i say tradition i'm talking old school [ __ ] but the uh just takes a little sucky sucky of the blood and it was actually really productive because the moyle would sometimes give stds to the newborn baby yeah that was good i've heard i've heard of that sorry trigger warning i guess yeah that was you know but it is what it is i too am unfortunately so they took something from us you know they did nice that's where we're united that's what i'm saying like there's just not a big difference between no well you're turkish but you're you're muslim yeah so they they snip you yeah it's terrible i mean there's a whole fanfare around it too you gotta like normally in turkey i mean i got it here so because yeah i'm an anchor baby so i was born here wait yeah oh you were born here oh yeah okay you weren't like 18 yeah no no no no no that was a whole question no and i would have never consented are you kidding me i'd be like [ __ ] no dude at that age no yeah no they uh but when you're in turkey there's like a it's kind of like a bar mitzvah mm-hmm is what it's called and it's like a big ceremony and you wear like this you know pageant dress basically you know this big outfit and there's a whole celebration and they uh and they you know snip snip and there's no blood sucking or anything like that but we have a gnarly like old wives tale myth thing as well where they put it in the rice like this big pile of rice yeah and whoever whoever gets the the peepee part no they they are lucky they sure are like i don't i don't think they do it it's just like uh themselves are no joke bro yeah okay tell us there's good [ __ ] in that foreskin yeah we've we've been everybody has some weird ass practices that's rough that's rough oh yeah yeah but just to make clear that doesn't really happen uh except in you know probably ben shapiro's uh uh uh temple or whatever he's very conservative he likes tradition i know bench bureau likes tradition i don't even believe that he's like a violinist from los angeles i mean there's a lot of conservative jewish people in los angeles though he's very traditional okay let's watch anyway oh so yeah oh so this is a picture of me when i was a coming of age and my parents said very explicit to me that i you know i am a male they confirmed my gender and uh you know i was not allowed to dress up like this um even though i really wanted to but um that's why i'm a beacon of masculinity now and so when people tell me there's 52 genders i i i just i insist on verifying because you know i was on a wrong path too when i was that age this keyword is wet come take a dive i i just don't i i will never understand that because like a lot of these dudes they uh try to abide by this like super rigid uh standard of masculinity that they themselves don't fit in i'm sorry but ben shapiro if you want to go if you want to talk about masculine traits bro you're pretty low on the totem yeah and it's not and that's not like that's not a weird thing at all but like the difference the difference between someone like myself and ben shapiro is literally a living breathing proof that there is a spectrum and it's not a binary when it comes to gender and when it comes to what we associate with like uh sex yeah yeah and i mean crowder is gay so that blasts that whole thing right yeah maybe we don't know allegedly all right let's watch but you know if you've had sex with stephen crowder you should reach out to us yeah if you've ever smoked meth then uh if you're happy to be a gay hooker that smoked meth and had sex with crowd in a hotel room please reach out we will protect your identity yeah i would like to find we protect our sources here on the left 100 all right off the rails but uh let's here is uh ben shapiro reacting to hassan making money that is a truism of politics that hypocrisy is always newsworthy hypocrisy is always newsworthy if somebody is a religious christian and then they have an affair this is a newsworthy event according to the media if there's a politician who's right-wing politician turns out to be gay really really newsworthy according to do you have something to tell us uh ben what i find about that what i find hilarious about this is that like like uh me coming out as uh a a uh wealthy person which is not even hidden but and has never been hidden which is part of the reason why it's never been like newsworthy really uh is uh as contradictory in ben shapiro's world as like a republican politician who's like deeply homophobic in his policies and like hurts gay people uh coming out as gay like secretly being out of this this is the tip of the iceberg of the yeah completely missing the point and tr and just cherry-picking distorting and this clip is really [ __ ] insane yeah it's great media but there's one area of hypocrisy that is just not newsworthy to the media like truly not newsworthy and that of course is if you are a socialist who's extremely wealthy and gives very little charity by the way this is such a niche like how many and by the how does he know how much money you've given to charity he doesn't he's literally just created this yeah straw man this uh this hypothetical there's so much hypocrisy out there of socialists not giving all their money to charity and it's like first of all socialism is not charity that would make jeff bezos the biggest socialist on the planet if that's the case you know what i mean right socialism is not about charity it's literally the exact opposite is that in a in a perfectly fine-tuned system where workers could uh take more of the fruits of their labor which bench bureau will get to in a second then there would be no need for charity exactly there still exists but there would be no need for it ultimately because the government would provide for you the need for charity is the uh is the failure of government yeah 100 but having said that i do understand in the immediate in the situation that we're currently living that uh charity is unfortunately in a lot of instances a necessity right and i do donate a lot to mutual aid i donate to you know i i i like to believe you but uh ben shapiro says otherwise well the thing is like i i don't i mean i do some of it publicly but like not full-blown publicly like look at me like i [ __ ] did this i'm so sick sometimes i'll do it uh publicly because i think it like motivates other people like during the black lives matter uh the black lives matter uh protests were happening all around the country i donated to all the bail funds and stuff and you know urged others to do so as well i regularly work with other content creators who are friends of mine to make sure that we raise funds for you know as recently as like a couple months back we we did a run with jordan ewell for the baltimore homeless uh and they raised a bunch of money there i think it was like 25 000. um and i do this stuff all the time both publicly and privately but it doesn't it doesn't matter well yeah it's the the funny thing is nothing hypocritical about not at first yeah exactly my favorite whenever people get mad they're like they'll pull up like open secrets and that shows you that shows all of your donations to campaigns oh and they're like ah he's only donated to bernie sanders like you know he maxed out the bernie sanders like what a hypocrite it's like what am i supposed to start a pack and like it's bro as a singular individual like or even with like a couple different people like what are we supposed to is that lobbying that's how we're gonna that's how we're gonna win this battle so silly it's just a bad faith argument and he knows that like he's smart enough to know what he's saying is [ __ ] if you are that person then hypocrisy just doesn't play a part hypocrisy is never a problem because after all you're calling for societal change you yourself don't have to abide by any of those rules that's right because some animals are more equal than other animals but oh and uh benefit of the bargain because you get to be a socialist as you want to like bernie sanders and then you get to have a lake house you just be a millionaire while proclaiming that billionaires i'm paying the flesh up nice impression whatever that was really good but um yeah i mean again it's like this straw man that socialists need to they're like jesus christ give all money away give all worldly possessions away because you care about poor people if you care about poor people so much why are you wearing clothes dude you should be wearing [ __ ] rags like why do you have a nice house uh like if you care about poor people it's it's absolutely preposterous that's a lie that that that really is effective somehow with people well it is because again a century of red scare propaganda and it's really effective it's so effective that even leftists themselves kind of get on that train as well and this notion that like you can't be successful about while being a leftist or you can't be successful being anti-capitalist like i find that to be a really strange one specifically because of the industry that i'm in it's not like i'm in commodity production you know what i mean i'm i'm in an industry where it's just me for the most part and it's entertainment there's just there's nothing contradictory about being wealthy and then at the same time advocating for laws and changes that increase your taxes that's it that's the thing i don't need to vote in my interest i [ __ ] literally vote against my financial interest at every election so yeah that's it you know yeah and it's beyond voting for me as well i mean i i believe that the electoral system has its limitations and um and because of that i care a lot about like workplace organizing democracy in the workplace these are things that i care about and these are issues that i not only highlight as a part of my job that yes happens to make me a lot of money but like didn't really not that long ago it wasn't like there aren't uh you know a massive amount of leftists out there who are super super uh wealthy it's not a real thing um you're probably the richest uh prominent socialist entertainer i mean they're just like it's not this big category uh that ben shapiro's making it sound like yeah so this issue has become relevant over the course of the past couple of days because a guy named hassan [ __ ] who i believe used to be a younger turks guy i don't really know that much about him that's a lie by the way i [ __ ] rationed him into oblivion a million times like he's just like oh i don't know who he is i don't know like i don't know much about this guy hussein pecker yeah is a socialist twitch streamer there's a big article the glowing profile about him in new york magazine titled streaming with hassan [ __ ] the aoc of twitch i'm a political commentator with like stans okay well in the past few months hassan [ __ ] it turns out has been revealed to be a very wealthy person which is good for him he has a lot of folks who are following him over on twitch that is his uh that is his prerogative and i'm i'm glad for him that he's been able to build a following but i don't think a couple of times in the last minute and by the way i'm like ben you're so much [ __ ] richer than all of us shut the [ __ ] up yeah like he he it's like dude shut up yeah instead hassan [ __ ] should be making his wealth in the same way that i am by misinforming boomers on facebook he should be selling supplements with uh asbestos and uh sawdust in it that cures covet yes and also hiring psychopaths like matt walsh yeah and and literally hates jews apparently at the last coverage not not surprising yeah a month it's been revealed that this out and out socialist i mean this is what he calls himself that he is um a very wealthy man quote hassan [ __ ] was in her age a million tabs were pinched together like sardines at the top of his browser his jittery cursor balanced between them summoning newswork network news kyron's youtube brands viral tweets and tick-tock memes the day's trending topic [ __ ] who is 30 had purchased a 2.7 million dollar house in west hollywood in ordinary twitch streamers housing wouldn't make headlines but over the past five years pecar has become one of the most prominent socialist pundits in america the controversy about the purchase had made it to fox news and breitbart and [ __ ] was prepared to take on the interlopers who logged on to see the fireworks quote the only reason my house is expensive is because of the area i live in he growled are you guys really that stupid yeah so like this is what he does continually is takes literally one one small passage and your huge coverage of this story you talked extensively about it and tries to reduce it to like the dumbest possible argument he can make well it's the to be fair he is uh white knuckling as he reads the article and those articles are always going to be like you know trying to explain what i do to a bunch of boomers who still read magazines and stuff so like that's going to be reductive no matter what and i mean i don't really care i think the guy who wrote it was really nice he was definitely a fan like he was he was well aware i mean that goes through like an editing process so it's whatever but um even then it's like it's not my fault that the los angeles real estate market is like abysmal and awful and it's something that i remember whatever you want on any property i know you can live in wyoming and buy a three million dollar mansion and it still doesn't undermine your politics yeah like my politics is not like uh people should not have nice things yeah that's never been that's my point is like there's no need to even get in the weeds about like oh la's expensive it's like you can spend your money on whatever the [ __ ] i'm also an avowed hedonist too like i i believe that you know consumption is good for uh sedating the masses i think people need that that's like uh a thing that i routinely address and criticize pre prior experiments in socialist uh you know transitional states so that is something that uh like literally does not fall outside of my my point of view that's not something that's changed throughout the years either like i've been advocating for that for a very long time um that doesn't that's not in response to the charge the charges that for a socialist you seem to be spending large my friend that's the charge you could have there are a lot of places that are not in west hollywood that don't cost 2.7 again he goes he didn't even answer the response it's like well yeah you read a brief excerpt of exhaustive coverage they're all over the united states you can get yourself a tiny little shack and live yourself the henry david thoreau lifestyle for probably 30 grand somewhere 2.7 40 grand a lot of money i don't see you handing that out to oh he's not jesus christ bro he's a [ __ ] dude he's immiserated workers why would i why would he live in a shack also where are there shacks for 40 grand and his response is well of course it's expensive around here this is west hollywood which of course is not a response that is what's funny about this is that like he didn't have to do the meme you know what i mean like a lot of people try to at least like couch their anger in like some kind of moralistic position and uh some kind of like logic and reasoning and the intellectual giant ben shapiro here literally goes you call yourself a socialist why don't you live in a shack then like you didn't have to do that you could have just you literally did not have to say why not live in a cave bro i mean you don't even need to buy a shack it's pretty it's so stupid it is this is if you're then why don't you live in a cave and live by uh wood fire because ultimately that's not food for a living ultimately that revolves around like i want you to go away i don't want you to be successful i don't want you to keep you know talking to people in the same way that you're doing i don't like that you are demonstrably changing people's minds and attitudes so just go away like yeah i'll just i'll just go live in an area where there's no internet connection yeah you know and people that don't make that argument that say like well why don't you live in a cheaper you know house or whatever the [ __ ] it's like well i'm comfortable like i want to be comfortable i want everyone to be comfortable i don't know why people are getting upset at that i've been living in that same neighborhood for many years nobody had an issue with it when i was let me just make anything to atlanta in a perfect social society there are still going to be rich people right yeah there's still thank you because that's it this is not about this is not about like uh creating this weird equilibrium it's about making sure that people get more and having the government absolutely cover the basic necessities for survival and then beyond that give people more time to themselves so they can pursue more fulfilling endeavors and and all this stuff it's just it's silly to try to routinely move that conversation away to these aesthetic points yeah i just got note actually ben's so upset he's starting a new podcast to combat ours yeah the right wingers and uh looks like they're about to go hog hunting two manlets two boys these are not short two boys this guy i mean yeah this guy makes ben look like a normal height and i know ben's like four or seven i think yeah quote as long as you don't defend your core values as long as you're still speaking truth to power then ephem yes speaking truth to power is being the guy who buys the three million dollar house and does interviews with new york magazine and then jabber's about how the rich don't pay their fair share that's not where i'm speaking through the power bro if you were speaking truth to power you would go live in a [ __ ] hut and build bombs to be you'd be the unabomber yeah yeah he's like he called yourself a socialist why aren't you ted kaczynski exactly what is this yeah oh actually speaking of ben's height and you know i don't like first of all i would never uh only because he goes on about masculinity but he is actually like five four three so that's not real that can't be no i think that's a real shot right really no really no for sure he's like four one i think he's changing the number even he yeah he's a very short man that's all i'm trying to start off with like four seven now he's another four one there's nothing wrong with being short it's just that he is this uh alpha male that uh i love i love my short kings okay short kings rule the world yes shouts out to noel miller cody co normal oh just cody a b okay you don't have to name them i'm just saying but they are kings they are kings jabuki like there's a there's a lot of short kings out there who are kings all right you know you're getting ready to round them up dude yeah that's my secret what was that the that [ __ ] great randy newman song uh short people got no reason to live you don't know that song no it's a satire about uh hateful idiots but he goes short people got no reason to live it's [ __ ] awesome it's crazy i played i disagree as a tall i i have to stand by my short brethren you know as yeah uh abe just told me ben's actual height here is four foot exactly yeah it's crazy i'm reading that right now i'm not going to discord that is not what he said what is he going to say no for defamation no fake news your honor i am clearly uh 5'3 and ethan uh he absolutely uh uh defamed me by saying i'm four feet now that that that's just unacceptable spit in my mouth please i'm doing this in the least exploitative way you functionally effing can really he says it's my labor i'm the one who's streaming for 10 hours welcome to capitalism i didn't get this point at all so that's the funny part where he's like i got you i owned you it's like he's saying he's basically saying like is a man not entitled to the sweat of his brow right and that is hilarious because that's i mean this is reductive yeah but that's literally like at the heart of marx's theory is like being entitled to the fruits of your labor being entitled to your value that you create as a laborer is literally the the opposite of of capitalists who believe that they can make money off of the process of exploitation of others labor oh it looks like we already downvoted this by the way but damn um i just didn't get this point uh that he thinks it's our own it's like you clear you don't i just don't get it it's just weird he thinks it's my labor yeah yes who's labor yeah so in other words you bet on yourself you've done really well and you believe that you deserve to keep the proceeds of that labor but aren't you exploiting all the people well he's not you're not saying don't increase my taxes and make social systems no i i am an advocate for all that and beyond so i don't his logic it sounds smart but it's not it's nonsense no you have to be like fully invested in the ben shapiro verse and his way of thinking to be like yeah he's really spitting right now now he's [ __ ] killing this well a lot of people do i mean he's overwhelming people look at him he's so pissed off dude yeah he's just like he i'm telling you he's like white knuckling through he's like huh why are they writing nice articles about him angry people who are engaged in commerce with you after all what service of value are you providing them you are twitch streaming video games is that a vital social service what makes that service significantly more important socially speaking from a marxist perspective than the guy who picks up the garbage why doesn't he own a 2.7 million dollar home in west hollywood first of all that would be sick and also garbage people are like the last like here's how to touch he is because people who work in sanitation are heavily [ __ ] unionized yeah they do well right and also they get paid like out of out of all of like the the utilities workers like they get paid oftentimes the most because they're unionized but what is he and because they provide like a really important utility but so does the [ __ ] so does the guy who's packing the groceries so does the guy who's delivering those groceries and my point is literally that those people should see more they should see more of the profits uh back in the form of their wages if they choose to do so or even have a say at the very least and how those profits are used you know what i mean ben keeps making and this is kind of the fallacy that i see what is he doing he's saying socialism is he's he's equating socialism to like pure equality of income for every single person like they're making this weird argument that like oh you're a socialist then every person in the world should make the same amount of money despite their work but that's not that's not what socialism is it's is anything that is the communism straight call me well communism would be the lack of communism would be the final stage where it's like a a a a society that has is stateless moneyless classless um and that is never been realized has never been that's never happened um it's like star trek the star trek universe right so that's that's entirely different uh but regardless like some people don't even agree with that and that's besides the point um even then there is no like equal wages there's just no wages right right you know what i mean and that is not somewhere not something that we are like close to each other like what is he doing and a lot of conservatives do where they say well you're a hypocrite because not every single person does doesn't have the same exact income and quality of life is that an argument you're making no i've never i've never made that argument and also the the irony no the irony is that the reason why i'm so successful is not because i'm like uniquely charismatic or anything i don't think so i'm just a dude right but the reason why i'm actually successful is because i have a unique voice in this space because of people like bench bureau who have a baby-like mentality on what socialism is and they spend so much time like vilifying it and and totally misinforming everyone that i think people hear what i have to say and they go oh that kind of [ __ ] makes sense to me and and so thank you ben shapiro for making me a question how much money in your perfect society what's the most amount of money someone can have i have no idea what the max cap on wealth would look like i mean there could be yeah i feel like i feel like it's functionally impossible to reach a certain level of health uh wealth sorry without um again hiring other people and like yeah of course severely you know severely exploiting them or at least like directly taking advantage of like uh of of exploiting people overseas at the very least let me let me ask you a more specific question in the case of a company like amazon which i think would you would agree that amazon has profoundly changed society and delivers the reason why they're success successful because their service is so unbelievably [ __ ] good they have created a product that is just it's hard to avoid because it's just so good and there's a cost to that and the cost of that is unfortunately the destruction of other small businesses which amazon in the most predatory way predatory pricing uh way possible eviscerates them when they take advantage and utilize their when they have to utilize the amazon marketplace they go and they're like this product's doing well we are going to make it much cheaper we're going to deliver it much faster we're going to lower your placement on the search results and basically either a buy you buy you out you know or just drive you out of the market um that's what you can do when you have functionally monopolized e-commerce in the same way that amazon has where they own more than 40 of e-commerce uh you know and that's an insane number so yeah i mean there's this one really famous story about thediapers.com are you in here about these diapers there was this one seller that was crushing it on i think it was diapers yeah yeah and they had built this whole multi-million dollar business through amazon and or maybe it was diapers.com or something and anyway amaz and what amazon does is they uses their data then makes the exact same product undercuts them at a loss yeah they take a loss to put them out of business and then they raise the price they do this all across the board but my question to you is in a perfect social and by the way that's the business side right that's just the business side i brought that up and then the other cost of that also is that like overworked delivery drivers overworked people inside of distribution facilities like people pissing in bottles [ __ ] in bags um you know people being driven out of the company for uh daring to unionize um and and all of that is invisible to us because these are some of the most marginalized people these are poor people they're just trying to make a living they're oftentimes uninformed because society has told them like unions are bad you know they're mobbed up whatever the [ __ ] and also uh you know they they are offering an opportunity for them like in bessemer alabama is a great example uh the distribution facility offers 15 an hour there's some benefits there too obviously we know why amazon increased its wages minimum wage to 15 an hour before anyone else because they were being bullied by bernie sanders and progressive activists uh to do so and now they use that as a marketing position and if you're in bessemer and you don't have a job 15 an hour sounds [ __ ] awesome right regardless you don't even think about the time off task like how much uh how much autonomy you have over your own body when you're inside of one of these distribution facilities you don't even think about that what do you mean a time off task time off task is when you are not directly going the line that a machine has set for you inside of a distribution facility where we use human beings basically like robots where everything is calculated by very well-paid mathematicians and amazon corporate that decide what like these routes are going to look like well or build ai yeah to to figure out what these like distribution routes are going to look like that efficiency and that delivery system comes at a massive cost and that cost is uh the the human labor put into it and how much they are abused uh when you know they nick themselves or when they injure themselves and and that all of a sudden makes you an unproductive worker so you might get fired um it's pretty dystopian where it's like um unproductive worker uh drop pull open the floor put them in the incinerator yeah they're gonna have the boston dynamic robots like basically with the [ __ ] ar-15 on it being like you know with the 16-17 guns on the wall yeah exactly a productive worker uh but my i guess my question i was leading to is so in in in a social socialist society oh actually this is the they're gonna be having these patrolling the routes here soon if you look on your monitor there yeah that's a machine gun mountain boston dynamics war dog yeah it's great i'm i'm so excited for the future that hideo kojima literally envisioned i mean this is like straight pmc like hideo kojima [ __ ] kojimbo so um what do you do about amazon in your uh social uh i mean i've joked about this before but you let amazon monopolize everything and then you nationalize amazon with the military boom all of a sudden no but seriously like it's even from the ground up let's say let's say there's a few different angles but let's say just from the money aspect of how profitable and how much money they make and how they treat their workers like what would be an ideal situation for you to deal with a company that large but also with a service that's become so ingrained well i mean we already have a massive delivery route and a delivery system in the form of the usps like the u.s postal service is awesome they're not for profit they are literally like written in the constitution express especially not-for-profit because that's what a government service that is so valuable is supposed to do it's not supposed to work for profit sure it's supposed to work for the people right and we fund it no matter what it takes so a similar structure could absolutely be applied to amazon workers in inside of distribution facilities that could uh ease some of the burden you know give them more benefits offer them additional benefits on top of that the first uh the first way to tackle this problem before we even start talking about like antitrust and trust busting amazon and making sure that like the different uh the different parts of the supply chain that they have completely integrated whether horizontally or uh vertically need to be completely separate from one another so it's easier to manage and control before we even do that i think unionization is probably the first step so that people have a better way to collectively organize engage in work stoppages uh which will suck we won't get our treats but at the very least like you know these people won't have to these people will be compensated fairly they will be covered uh and i go back to the bessemer alabama conversation because at the time with respect to the rest of bessemer's economy 15 an hour seemed great for someone who was unemployed right that's awesome [ __ ] yeah i'm gonna do that that's a great idea and a lot of people joined because of that right but what the media never really covered and they're horrible at covering labor issues but what the media never covered is that unionized distribution facilities in that same region were making 22 dollars an hour already and had better benefits so uh you know this is not impossible this is happening all around it happens all around the world uh it just does not happen in america that's the difference so you you not you not unionize the workers which i agree with i mean people should be making they should be making more money especially with how profitable they are but then the question is if you go back to the inception of amazon could a company like amazon exist in a socialized fully socialized government unless there was like full-blown nationalized and like everyone was a public uh everyone worked for the public sector uh no of course not i mean there are this is why they're so do we miss out do we miss out in a way if a company like first of all there's ways that we can make amazon better for society obviously like euthanizing but are we missing out by excluding let's just say innovation like amazon are we missing out as a society by making something like that impossible well i think that the i don't believe that capitalism fosters innovation first of all i i don't believe that at all and there is plenty of there are plenty of examples that like the public sector has actually been the main driver of innovation like the [ __ ] internet you know what i mean like these are because big grand world changing technological achievements uh can't be created uh by for-profit corporations that exclusively want to increase their profit margins and don't want to make mistakes and don't want to waste money um you have to be able to waste funds and resources in in an exhaustive way if you want to be able to build world-changing tech right so i i do think that you know the the profit motive gets in the way of like truly life-changing innovation for the most part in every sector so i don't think we would be losing out on anything if we were to fund more uh you know programs like that or if we were to even nationalize specific sectors um let's say go ahead sorry well no i mean as far as what we would be losing out on i think what you're uh coming to what you're pointing out is that we would be losing out on you know getting our treats on time in a timely manner listen we're we're in a society that runs on efficiency yeah like anything and um those differences do make a difference in terms of productivity of the society as a whole you know i i think not just treats is what i'm saying it's a more valuable service than that the way i can reduce it to something that you can personally see and experience is this you own your own business you own your own product right you as a content creator are your best advocate because you realize all of the gains you have control over your own life you have autonomy so you're working [ __ ] harder than most people are right we're in a different field because we are the content creators ourselves so we have wonderful people working with us alongside us but for the most part like we are doing a a lion's share of the labor right um my goal is to change the incentivization structure from the negative incentivization of fear of of losing your job and therefore your health insurance and therefore your ability to pay for shelter and your ability to pay for food to positive incentivization similar to what a business owner like yourself would face or feel you wake up in the morning you're excited to go to work you want to work harder than everyone else you want to be productive because ultimately you're being productive for yourself and i think that that is something that we can do that is something that we absolutely can engage in as long as we have more autonomy more control over our own lives and even if we're doing something that is not like immediately in front of camera even if we're doing something that is um uh like cleaning the toilets for example right if you understand that it's a necessity for the workplace to function then you have a say in the most efficient way of doing it and also on top of that you're being rewarded handsomely for it okay then you're not gonna have an issue with like cleaning the toilets what is it it sounds like you're saying you don't believe in managers i mean i don't understand that point i think management should exist it still absolutely has to um i think that you know there are people who uh move parts around uh in a massive supply chain and that is still a necessity the only difference is i believe that it would be better served if those managers were working against a unified force that can still be like all right we're you know you're really you're really [ __ ] us over right now you're really overworking us so if you don't give in to our demands then we have some kind of way of of pushing back against that some kind of way of retaliating against that and a good manager will a good manager or a good business owner will never even let that conversation happen because he's already got that ground covered you know what i mean let me ask you a different question let's say in this socialist society a company like amazon using you know public goods and not super anti-competitive and and just doing everything the right way uh you create this uh society changing it's just so [ __ ] good amazon did everything the right way and it's so [ __ ] good and you've got jeff bezos at the top everybody's winning but the guy is making so much money because it's just so he's still going to be a billionaire even doing everything the right way in that situation what do we do do we allow jeff to be a billionaire or what in that situation i mean that's functionally impossible in my opinion but in that situation no i mean if if everyone is well it happens fine but if everyone is well taken care of i don't think that that that is a possibility that's i think that's an important point to say because a lot of people misrepresent socialistic values by saying that well uh you know you why don't you give away everything if you're done correctly billionaires can exist and i believe that too well i mean i don't think billionaires can exist i like i'm saying i'm saying there's got to be a way because there's enough wealth there's enough people there's there's like 350 million people in america if you create a service good enough and service that many people there's going to be billionaires well the reason i've talked about labor billionaires before maybe not on the show but like lebron james and and you know other uh billionaires that make really i'm talking about business owners all of labor yeah yeah so that's the so there's the difference there though like billionaires can exist in that in that way and it still says a lot about like where wealth disparity is at this moment and these are incredible they're they're being paid well every all of his workers are happy and well provided so can you have a billion dollars in a situation where if every worker is still uh is is devoid of exploitation and they have either democratically voted on uh like having that uh having that distribution of profits trickle upwards in a way where like someone is making a billion dollars and also on top of that there's plenty of um also democratically uh voted on uh uh like excess or surplus uh revenue generated going back to a you know like a centralized command or or the federal government that is then adequately redistributed back into like our infrastructure and our other public sector employees and whatnot in that situation if there's someone who still has like a billion dollars then yeah it doesn't really matter ultimately like there is i want to live in a world where there is no need to have a billionaire you know what i mean because i i see that as a policy failure on its face especially the current way that our economy is organized in the same way that i see a single homeless person as a policy failure like that's there's just something that went so wrong somewhere along the line that like someone could accumulate a billion dollars and so much more in the case of jeff bezos oh so much more yeah like it just it it could it functionally could or it theoretically could i don't know if it functionally would you know what i mean okay but that i think it's an important point to make that just to say like very wealthy people can exist what every single individual in that situation would be making you know what i mean like that would be or what the company itself would be making so you know the in and the reason why i say that is like it's impossible for billionaires to exist where there is like equal dis or not equal but like uh a a uh and a decent distribution of of surplus labor value and then also on top of that uh a decommodification of goods that are absolutely necessary for survival and also on top of that like taxes that are going back into the government uh to to create infrastructure like i just don't see that ever happening it could but i don't see it as a possibility yeah i don't know i think my my thing about it is like i think in the middle of those two extremes of like you know what we have now being the shitty extreme and what you have now being like the extreme idealistic uh thing um yeah you like you're you're what is known as a as a european style social democrat you believe that like as long as the government is taking care of the working class as long as the government is like providing shelter to those who need it and whatnot then you know everything is good i just think it's too i think people are just gen in general too greedy and i think people have this uh it's like a it's a biological need to keep what's theirs right you and i do not disagree on that at all and that's why i believe what i believe um i i think that people are greedy and and marx's theory actually does not uh does not go against that that's why i feel like a society like that could never be achieved because at a certain point there's gonna be the people who do have the stuff who do have the power and they will there's people that will when they feel threatened to that point the very wealthy the very entrenched there will always be war and that's before that happens no you are yes and it's called class war but what you're describing currently is literally the reason why ben shapiro makes so much money and is also kind of the reason why he's so angry right now is that like this system and i i fully agree with you that's happening every day what you're describing the class solidarity demonstrated by billionaires millionaires incredibly wealthy people happens even if you don't realize it um and we and even myself are beneficiaries of that in the same way that even if we want to give back more to the government and even if we want the government to adequately distribute those resources to those who need it and not to the military-industrial complex for example um the system is designed in a way where it's like no you're we're gonna cut your [ __ ] taxes yeah and there's nothing you can do about it yeah because all the other billionaires and millionaires they want their taxes to be cut all the other corporations want to take advantage of i think like realistically the best that we're gonna get is in the middle a society where we have strong social safety nets and unions and people are well taken care of they're still going to be uh extravagantly wealthy people though i think uh it's a it's a good but way better than what we have now absolutely but like i said before that comes at the cost of still overseas exploitation third world exploitation um and not even exploitation in the marxist sense where it's like you know your labor surplus value being used without your uh without your approval or consent or say but i mean like straight up exploitation in the colloquial way we understand it where it's like wage slavery like near slavery conditions i mean we talked about ikea like they literally recently were like okay we can't use child slaves anymore in our facilities overseas like that's kind of messed up you know what i mean and that's that's the that's the real hidden cost of this entire system and like one could easily say well you have a laptop in front of you you're a hypocrite like you have lap you have a laptop in front of you there's conflict minerals inside of that laptop lithium batteries that were extracted from the third world and that's absolutely valid that's a reasonable uh that's a reasonable thing to i guess point out it is unreasonable to expect someone to not use any form of technology though which is why socialists will say or at least those who understand the system say uh there is no ethical consumption under a uh capitalist organization of the economy it's like functionally important what can we do about like the countries that regulate their workers conditions i mean like if you're in if you're exploiting labor let's say in um africa or uh china i mean china's i don't know africa let's say well china has like moved to the next step like they did that they threw their labor at the problem and then they were like all right we've improved the conditions well so now they're outsourcing to other countries but that's what i but also that's another i think interesting point is that the exploitation of chinese workers did bring a lot of people out of poverty and ultimately make their conditions at this point there is a minim there's for the most part as i understand it like a fairly the bottom end is a lot higher than it used to be yeah no the the uh eradication of poverty that every capitalist likes to point to almost exclusively happened in the past like couple decades in china without china uh being with china being removed from those metrics global poverty and also without changing the metrics so like isn't that kind of a natural result of send exporting your labor to a country like now let's say you go to india we export a lot of labor to india is the bottom line there going to increase as all that money comes in it's entirely dependent on how the government uh decides to take the uh the the revenue how can i be and how can i be responsible for how the government of india conducts itself well america and and a lot of western capitalists and the state department that works in their uh interest literally do this uh through a series of controls that i've talked about briefly like the imf the world bank implementing austerity measures implementing neoliberal restructuring in the government and also sometimes when there is an like any sort of revolutionary activity or any sort of revolt against that kind of system directly funding and arming some of the most violent paramilitary death squads that are counter-revolutionary forces that end up butchering the people in incredibly violent ways so like there is an interest in a lot of these countries uh in the people of these countries uh to to change the the outcome there is a desire for it um people of iran for example they don't want to live in a [ __ ] brutal theocratic dictatorship they don't want that why is there a brutal theocratic dictatorship well because america facilitated the overthrowing of a government that was democratic was socialist or at least you know wanted to nationalize its uh extraction industry it's specifically its oil refineries and that was a big no-no for british petroleum that was a big no-no for america and what happened as a consequence of that an incredibly violent brutal anti-imperialist force that was super fundamentalist overtook in that in that volatility and started controlling the country in its entirety and has been for a very long time and they're super [ __ ] brutal and it sucks like so why did that basically i guess why was china able to avoid that because they don't america doesn't have that level of influence over china america yeah america does not have that level of influence over china i would say that like dengues reforms were um were were i mean demonstrably democratically successful they weren't but they did become successful enough by literally saying all right we're going to throw labor power at this uh problem uh we know that uh capital owners will absolutely not be able to resist manufacturing their goods here if we offer them such competitive wages that it's like impossible that it's like literally cheaper to ship products to china and then back to the united states right the consumption engine of the world um and it worked it worked so well because you saw jobs being shipped overseas um you saw the union uh the the union power diminish and and completely eradicate uh in this country and with that came worse distribution of of profits uh with that came less benefits or no way to actually demand better benefits in the workplace and that's why we have so many problems like in comparison to other oecd nations and um it got to a point where it was so successful that like do you remember the obama documentary the factory one well yeah yeah where the chinese manufacturer came back to america to build i think it was like glass panes or something for cars like it it we destroyed our own domestic manufacturing and eviscerated labor power so thoroughly in this country that a [ __ ] chinese manufacturer can come back here and you know take on additional costs in in the american domestic manufacturing side um exclusively because it's good marketing yeah that's like now chinese capital owners can come here and be like all right we're gonna you're gonna work for us and that's that's how that's how much we have thoroughly dismantled labor power in this country that's very interesting and it's it's like a national security concern if you want to think about it from the point of view of like uh uh in the way that like hogs think about it you know what i mean it's just it's terrible well as someone i i own a business in clothing obviously and the manufacturing in america now for clothing it like is non-existent where oh i know it it's like in ch and not only that but in china they're they do stuff that like you can't get done here and they're they're they're great at it they're the best at it the conditions are good and if you try to do what you do in china here if people think clothing is expensive try making in america i mean like a hoodie like this if you made it in america first of all i just got to say i mean i can tell you right now i i work with unionized domestic manufacturers and finding like garmin production with those standards has been probably the most difficult part of the process you may not be able to and if you do the hoodie like this is gonna run hundreds well right times uh this what i'm wearing currently this is not out yet and we haven't even like this is not going to be the color way for it but this is like domestically manufactured and um and you made there are so many limitations you can't do color you can't do cut and sew unique designs in the way that you're showing right you can't do any of that stuff well you you're probably using a blank right yeah and the blanks are made in china no no these blanks are they are made here so these are everything that i'm using is domestically manufactured in union uh interesting union produced and the price point that the original uh the company that i work with gave me was so [ __ ] insane it was like that's no i was not doing that they wanted to put 75 dollars on as a price point i was like you need to lower this down to like at least fifty four dollars because fifty four billion there's no way even that's really expensive yeah because well 54 is like what you pay for like mass-produced blanks from china clothing is expensive and nice clothing is expensive yeah so um i was like you need to figure out a way to lower this 54 i don't care we'll like cut out on the design side i don't you know i want to make sure that it's like relatively affordable um same with t-shirts oh yeah like they're it's incredibly costly that's why people were [ __ ] on aoc when when she had to tax the rich sweater and it was 54 dollars and everyone was like oh my god tax the rich well you know also a fundraising it's literally for fundraising it's obviously but the other side of the reason why it was 54 was because it was union made and domestically manufactured it's more expensive i don't have a problem with that um i think that i would rather i would rather do that than you know and and unfortunately you know not do some of the really cool [ __ ] that i want to do uh but make sure that it's still you know uni manufactured and domestically produced but it's really difficult it's not easy it's like and well the the problem is and also [ __ ] about like turning profit so i have that uh i have that opportunity to be able to do so what you're saying the hoodie comes out to to the msr piece being 75 or it comes to you for 75. no the ultimate yeah the retail cost yeah the retail and i wonder i wonder what's your profit margin i have no idea yet they haven't even shown me that yet i don't even know what the breakdown is like so the thing is like how we produce stuff is so you have to use a bunch of different manufacturers that specialize so like a lot of times we'll do printing in the usa the printing in the usa is really good so for some reason that's one of the things that still works well here so we'll end up you know sourcing all kinds of things from all over the place to get the best product but it's very yeah but but like i'm saying the reason why i mentioned that is because like you would not be able to do what i'm doing and still make money and like hire people and have like a business um that's the difference like i i get that and also you would not even be able to like experiment with unique garment manufacturers and that can you know take on that kind of demand um that might change though and the reason why i say that is because right now we're experiencing a severe bottleneck in our uh in our our logistics uh i don't know if you're aware of this right now but like there are there's like a six line of like [ __ ] carrier cruisers or whatever pankerships that are sitting on the port yeah uh right now and and that's part of the reason why we can't get like big items like uh delivered uh on time in a timely manner that's a that's a part of the way that as a part of uh the reason the reason why we have that problem currently is because of the way that we've designed our supply chain to be as light as possible and uh small problems like minor tweaks will lead to gigantic issues and then we'll come back as like inflation come back with people not being able to get their goods uh and a pissed off american population because we care about consumption commodities i'm sure more than anything else yeah all that [ __ ] hits us really hard all those delays and the counter to that is improving domestic manufacturing like building back our resources and our facilities to ensure that you know we can have a va we have a little bit like the truth is if you want to manufacture in america it's all like artisan boutique [ __ ] like they don't have the mass producing cost cut costs yeah cost cutting that all went away and i do suspect it might come back because things are not looking too great especially if you want to go to trade war with china like donald trump did then they have a lot more they have an upper hand like they have yeah a significantly better uh advantage like significantly more advantages in the way that they control so much of the manufacturing and so much of that supply chain yeah it's pretty it's kind of it's really sad how like i mean america used to be a manufacturing powerhouse and uh it's just totally gone all of that but anyway we got to thank our sponsor and when we come back let's get off uh uh angry little ben shabino and move on to other topics so we will be right back time to take a short break thank you to raycon for sponsoring this socialist podcast i know it's crazy it's insane is it is are we 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honestly someone represent the abortion debate so well and just [ __ ] eviscerate yeah potato head absolutely owned [ __ ] destroy him just why this is just a joy to watch so funny it's like i love this video you're talking about like the how it's squished together well i mean that in general but then his reaction is it looks like god photoshopped his [ __ ] face to be like goofy yeah poor guy i mean not poor guy well his main donor died foster freeze and he just looks like [ __ ] ever since his like hair is all disheveled yeah i noticed he stopped showering yeah he just looks he just looks crazy lately and like he's been getting more and more you mean the the meat company foster freeze what the [ __ ] foster food oh he's a billionaire mega donor for like the original mega donor for turning point you are dude i want a billionaire donor that's his dad used to work for the koch brothers fun reuben too uh yeah yeah they fund everything yeah they fund everything dude but yeah steven freeze uh is a uh american investment meal yeah foster freeze fries it's like sounds like a batman villain yeah i mean i mean these guys aren't literal villains so he was an american investment manager and prominent donor of the republican party and christian right causes um and he unsuccessfully saw the republican nomination for governor of wyoming in the 2018 election poor guy and he lost the primary and uh he is like i think his dad charlie kirk's dad used to build like apartments for him or something and charlie literally just directly reached out to him and was like yo can i have millions daddy yeah and he was like you're a young buxom lad let's do it i love that and now he's [ __ ] dead dude and he stops showering he's losing debates it's falling apart so watch this is the best best best i'm not exactly sure the other exactly but fetuses have tails let me go back a little bit go ahead embryo has tails hey so it's a work in progress so you're working on having kids soon why haven't you adopted yet are you going to adopt kids that are in need of help pause for a second i do kind of no it's not a work in progress bro you need to [ __ ] to be able to have children like yeah like tim tim pulls a work in progress yeah he's like my dude you are unfuckable okay you start by showering dude it's not happening i live a busy life but i would love to adopt actually it's on a busy life yeah busy life yeah he's just like he's so busy it's just it's sad dude sad he's just like too busy [ __ ] wearing diapers on college campuses and [ __ ] well you could take the keemstar method and just start tweeting out looking for applicants i mean horny posting on the timeline is charlie kirk that's dangerous dangerous all right we have we're we're having too much fun here let's just watch this yeah let's have a look charlie's going to adopt soon excellent at eight weeks we have tails uh at eight weeks and uh uh uh embryo has tails do humans have tails charlie i'm sorry what serious question do human beings have tails i'm not exactly sure the essence of this do human beings have tails do you have a tail you know i have never met anyone with a tail i'm not exactly sure the other exactly you know what he's getting to you're already in the process of being owned yeah he knows he already knows he's being owned charlie clark reached out to my agents to have me on this this show i think or whatever like his new show i think this might be his new show i was like [ __ ] no get the [ __ ] out of here bro yeah i love it's called debate night and you'll see at the end he literally ends early because he's getting owned so hard i love that that's so good i'll explain that but fetuses have tails kind of proves that at that phase they are not a human being they got tails humans don't have tails we're not dinosaurs let me even show you a photo if i may okay do you truly in your heart of hearts truly believe that this is a human being this without a doubt without a doubt yes this is a dolphin fetus without a doubt a dolphin fetus is a human being this is a human see this look how similar they look but quite different dolphin you just confirmed that a dolphin in in life do you confuse dolphins for human babies often he's and now he's flexing now he's flexing he's like i [ __ ] destroyed you the the funnier the funnier moves like when they zoom in on his face and he's like like he literally you see him get like hit in the face with the fact the best [ __ ] moment i mean and and also just such a great argument and actually it's it's confirmed that well charlie is actually a dolphin so yeah i understand why he would confuse the two yeah no he can't he started as a dolphin and he is so gummy dude that's what i'll get that out of here yeah nothing wrong with gun we love our gummy kings okay i just he's not a king so well he's not a king but we love our gummy but the thing is like he now now ben here i don't know him either but i'm i'm a fan now yeah uh he's just he's just flexing he's like dancing on the on the wall and he's [ __ ] and he deserves he's doing a touchdown but here we go watch charlie try to save face uh and it's very small so it doesn't have much to say but here you can see there you go go ahead so let me go to sea world and you're like someone's got human babies in that aquarium get the human babies out of the aquarium but you labeled it as a human fetus no i did not dishonestly no i did not i didn't label it as anything let me let me feed this one let me ask you a question though so let's let's hold up no but you labeled it as a human moral difference between the dolphin and the baby at this stage no no you just confirmed it let me ask you a human and a dolphin is it okay to kill one and not the other is there a difference morally between a human and a dolphin i don't like to kill dolphins but when they're like do you like to kill babies no i don't and when they're living i certainly am not in favor of killing either okay would you abort a dolphin fetus like yes who cares you know what i mean yeah yeah like nobody cares the point he's just so desperate too he's fumbling no it was really good this is free fall right now this was great now i'll just say this i am not i mean i i've debated charlie uh twice at politicon and i've debated plenty of other conservative commentators some of the greatest uh and uh i will say this i think debates are just pseudo-intellectual uh wrestling basically it's just like sparring it's for entertainment it has the capacity to change people's minds certainly there's a 20 in the middle that could go either way but ultimately you're not changing anyone's minds by um by by reasoning and like you know using facts and logic and uh and you know the truth comes out in the debate in the same way that like a lot of people think it does um this is how you win people over to your side by thoroughly and promptly humiliating your opponent i was wondering where you're going yeah because i actually do think this is extraordinarily effective and it's he made a fool of him and his argument is foolish yeah he he destroyed him with superior rhetoric and because he i mean the facts are on his side certainly unless you're having like a philosophical conversation of what constitutes life the facts are literally on his side and the way that we understand it so he he has that but oftentimes like if someone is like really good at like flipping uh flipping talking points back you know you could still recover charlie could not this was really embarrassing so like he just this man and he played he fell into the trap so good too you know uh if he wasn't such an ideologue he wouldn't have fallen so perfectly into that trap of dude do you think for sure in your heart that this is a baby a human yeah you see the you see like the the [ __ ] the rainbow mac uh cylinder pop up in front of his face like like he's just like he's like going through the talking point tree you know what i mean no hesitation he's just like trying to figure out like oh [ __ ] what do i have for this one we're off the rails i don't know what to say yeah do would you eat a dolphin tuna it was like nah dude you just just take the l you just hold it but nothing happens here uh it continues oh hold up the human one sure is that not alive no it is not alive how is it able to have a heartbeat it's attached to an alive being called a woman wait so the muscle does it no it doesn't have a true heartbeat oh yes it does at some point it does 22 days after conception the child's heart begins to circulate now that's [ __ ] is also disputed science and actually it's literally not true eyes and eyelids nose and mouth and tongue of form no knife it is not a heartbeat at 22 weeks ago what he's talking about you know how [ __ ] up this [ __ ] is they like show images and to be like that's a real baby look at that you know how big that thing is at [ __ ] at the heartbeat stage as big as my [ __ ] like not even my brain [ __ ] that dude that's insane okay yeah no she's a parasite they should they do in like texas and conservative uh they have like these fake abortion clinics where they bring you in and try to brainwash you and guilt family planning centers they harass you essentially yeah uh it's really really [ __ ] up yeah and you can legally do that yeah it's it's your life which one is it that is not true it is becoming pick one it's dead currently oh it's dead it's not alive so you were once dead you defined life dumb [ __ ] what do you call not existing freak anyway you're not you're like a human that's not a human being there's not a baby whoa you weren't existing at one point yeah yeah i mean you were like how old are you charlie uh 31 okay well uh the universe is seven billion years old so yeah uh the ending is here's the ending on debate night just to kind of put a cap on this debate night goes off the rails i gotta watch is that because unintended consequences happen that you didn't anticipate we're done debate night's over kind of like mothers that have an unintended pregnancy they didn't anticipate so if you want to cut some slack for jam 6 maybe you could cut women some slack thank you we're done pregnant debate night's over you're the domestic terrorist you're a domestic peaceful protesting my friend thank you domestic character you jinned up an insurrection on our country debate night went off the rails so see the thing that i love about conservatives is that they're such [ __ ] content demons that like you know uh boo boo bennett does this all the time too like even if they get owned they're like ah [ __ ] it post it it's like you didn't have to post that brother like you got [ __ ] thoroughly owned he has sponsors he has obligations he's gotta post it so that's really funny and then the other part of that of course is that it doesn't even matter if he gets owned because conservatives especially ones that like love charlie kirk they're so [ __ ] stupid that like they don't even think about it they're like yeah he still he conducted himself in a good manner well no they'll be like [ __ ] dishonest debater of course yeah i don't know whatever they say but anyway i love how debate night got off the rails and uh awesome here is charlie kirk briefly after um the debate he has his face gets smaller and smaller every time he gets home yeah yeah it's so sad all right moving on so that's the fun stuff there's so much stuff to get to but boy we we we uh take our time on topics what can i say and i like that we're we love pausing we are well yeah together we are the paused king nobody okay so moving on to our main topic here today god hates flags of course look at that not a reference to anything uh particular that uh some uh christians like to say yeah so what do we know yeah so the conservatives have been flag obsessed uh with the blue lives matter you know and all this stuff um they love flags they need their flags you know it starts from the confederate flag here's a meme that i've seen going around like here's a little shot this is a good uh tick-tock account the good liars here just kind of give you an introduction on their obsession with flags it's the american flag but you pull it back and it's the confederate flag and i actually think that's like the most honest flag i've seen here at a trump rally it's the america yeah what do you think it's like you know uh dude you're are you uh are you a traitor or american i just don't get no they're like no i'm racist yeah that's what that says but i'm racist you don't understand hey here's a website uh uh i i american flags here you can buy it for 10 bucks disgusting oh that was definitely made in china are they saying that they when you pull the flag from underneath you're a democrat is that what that means wait this is what the [ __ ] where was this made this is definitely made in china they don't show it but there's zero percent chance that it's made in america it was being sold for six bucks yes so you'll see like i think this is a basically a revolt against the rainbow flag and um other such things they the confederate flag they just need they want so badly to be separate that they need to um they need their own flag essentially so here's an album with some of the flags it's just it's just so pathetic because it's like listen listen the the the confederate flag like you're a [ __ ] loser like you lost dude you're that's literally a participation trophy for a four-year-long endeavor that ended with a you know thorough destruction and evisceration of everything you believe in and not only that but like even robert e lee himself in his death bed was like please don't put up any [ __ ] monuments like i'm we got owned bro like just don't just don't put up monuments and then of course the hogs were like yeah [ __ ] that no we're gonna do that well they didn't like the 1900s yeah and yeah exactly they didn't even do it immediately after there was like summer do you know what would happen if aft shortly after the civil war ended if people walk around with confederate flags they'd be [ __ ] like bro that's like you're trying to die yeah i mean yeah it's not cool yeah but the daughters of the confederacy have like very actively been able to change public education especially in southern states to reflect a completely whitewashed completely revised history that was about states right yeah that makes it that's the reason why you hear that all the time yes it's right exactly slavery bro yeah your own slaves [ __ ] yeah it's like yes it's just states rights totally that's why texas didn't free uh it's it's uh black population we need states right to own black people anyway here's some of the flag they've in it they've uh inadvertently created their own rainbow flag and dan what are what do these stripes mean i need a i need a key to decode this there actually is a key in the dock but i can uh pop it open and give you a little pop open on the other screen uh so they actually now they sell these flags where each line and color means a different thing so obviously blue lives matter we've got one for the cops of course can you zoom a bit i can't uh yeah so um starting from uh the orange line that is for uh search and rescue uh uh personnel search and rescue lives matter i mean yeah they definitely had a red line of course firefighters firefighters getting uh the yellow line which i'm actually rocking right here behind me no yellow line is secure wait yes it's security guards and tow truck drivers tell you drive lives do matter yeah which we mean i know they're in the line of fire the front line the irony is that like some of these this all started with blue lives right thin blue line blue lives matter which was a counter to black lives matter of course uh so it's inherently reactionary but like some of these professions are unironically way more difficult and also way more deadly than cops like being a police officer in the united states of america uh it puts you in what like not even the barely in the top 20 most dangerous professions like it's actually [ __ ] delivery driver lives matter you know or it's landscaper lives matter do they have a thin green line what is that oh no it's just federal agents well let's see uh what's the green one here uh yeah straight just any federal agent which we love them contributed solely to the military force while the green line does stand for armed services also encompasses all federal agents during border patrol fish and game wardens park rangers and animal control the control uh the color green was chosen as many uniforms the federal agents are shade of green absolutely uh i love that the gray line represents correction officers which you know hey shout out they get their own flag why not oh no pink oh that one's great for women not just all women specifically women in emergency services or armed services so respect and it says all women it was originally armed services but it's also taken on to represent women who have breast cancer which okay wow it's just very inclusive yeah it's like if you're gonna if you're gonna categorize this much like at least make a separate flag dude they're like yeah we don't give a [ __ ] about the women again the so here's the real flag and they've inadvertently created a lgbtq um flap yeah love it and by the way i just looked it up police officer is 22nd most dangerous job in america oh it's no longer well it's the most it's still very dangerous you want to know why because they're [ __ ] getting murdered by covid right now they are getting absolutely destroyed thoroughly by kobe wait what's the one right above police uh number 21 is grounds maintenance workers uh landscapers like cassandra what the [ __ ] would you imagine though like you know your your landscaper is just like sorry i have to cut your [ __ ] head off because i'm in an incredibly dangerous profession hold the phone what is going on in landscaping where these [ __ ] are getting oh dude workplace safety is is really they're not shooting them it's like it's just significantly more dangerous because they're like falling off [ __ ] you know yeah and then what's the one above that dan uh heavy vehicle mechanics that makes sense to me yeah yeah i mean it's it's mostly people that do physically manual labor manual labor yeah it's more significantly harder to do those jobs and it's significantly more dangerous to do those jobs and uh of course they literally get more training to do said jobs as well right than [ __ ] cops well let's see the what do we got here an interesting one at number five is garbage collectors as we were talking about wow garbage livestream i don't think it'll [ __ ] lie i mean they're [ __ ] podcasts their lives matter that's right i mean ours is i mean hey we take a lot of emotional strength that's true i see my own flag yeah it's dangerous out in these streets it's weird i don't see podcasters on this list so what's this one with the blue green and red well this is this is just the combo because like you said they're kind of unintentionally recreating it's like pick your own flavor the blue green and red is literally like this is a pan-african flag dude so is there any more uh dan cause we have like the blue with the white those are all of the colors that were listed here i mean so anyway i'm not kidding they literally made the pan-african flag without realizing it that's like something that all of those people that were rock flags like that would be terrified of so here's the website which is just like smacking the [ __ ] out oh hell yeah i want different employees get your veteran flags military straps 10 percent on outsourced straight from china you can be yours for three dollars listen the thing is like we got to venerate these guys right anyway i bought this hat from that website hog hell yeah dude finally some freaking getting them some freaking drip around these parts man uh here's some of the top these are some of the toppings where this is made is this made in front of two or no made in bangladesh baby supporting american workers that's right let's go hunting brother i love me some libs i love that here's the top um sales right now just to give you an idea we don't know them all but we owe them all so like oh god this is like first of all it's so ugly like oh my god if they use like some of the creative juices that they have to like figure out new slurs you know they could make like more creative [ __ ] at least born raising protected by god guns guts and glory i'll give praise to general lee i'll love me and a little bit of alliteration there this is one of the top ones which she saw this is the lgbtq flag patriot support appreciation correction dispatch e-m-s you know what's funny these are all so these are all government jobs these people are socialists they love a good government job these are all government employees like the thing is that right that well the other part of that problem is like we got to do this for the military we got to like play this song and dance all the time i mean i have a lot of veterans in my community they love me i have active duty uh members of my community as well um despite my uh you know anti-imperialist attitude yeah well nothing makes you hate the military more than serving in it yeah exactly and and the hilarity there is like we got to do this because we [ __ ] these dudes up okay we send them overseas even at [ __ ] basic training they get like ptsd they get messed up and then their bodies are [ __ ] broken they've sold their body to the american government they do god knows what overseas they're like totally [ __ ] up in the process and then they come back and we're like if you're really lucky or if you're really unlucky then you get some decent medical uh you know help right and and tax benefits and whatnot and then you also get your college paid for so you can still suffer in the same dog [ __ ] job market with like horrible wages with no [ __ ] labor protections whatsoever with the rest of us but on top of that now you have a communications degree and you also [ __ ] get tremors when you are trying to piss that's serious walmart you don't there's no infrastruc infrastructure that can treat the trauma that these guys go through yeah seeing friends die seeing children and women die killing people getting shot out getting killed being injured i mean i have so much respect and i have so much sympathy for soldiers that go and go they send them to the meat grinder no i mean and they come back i reserve that for those who recognize the the uh you know well i don't i don't mince because in a way it's like they're all kind of i mean there's it's even sadder to be like uh you know uh uh subservient to your slave master it's like slave slave master yeah but there there's like every military member will tell you this but like you know hogs or members of the military [ __ ] hate other members of the military too like they just you know especially liberal ones or you know democrat ones uh so it's just like there's a lot of there's a lot the truth is the military's run it's a it's such a classist uh institution because they live and breathe on recruiting people without better options because for the most part if you have better options you're not going to go the military yeah there's two different kinds there you have people that are like escaping horrible conditions yeah or really shitty conditions or people who are in the middle class who only see this as a way upwards like for upward social mobility and then you have the other side of the military which is like military families that is like baked into the system and then you have the pete buddha judges and the [ __ ] dan crenshaws who come from like rich families mm-hmm they go they serve at west point yeah they come back and uh you know they get a harvard degree and then go and and you know they're people that go to officer school yeah yeah uh for the most part dan crenshaw still navy seal but like pete buddhist especially like um so it's not entirely just like a the the poverty draft but i'm talking about the people in the trenches and the front line i mean the marines i mean pete booty judge what did he say he was i mean i'm assuming guys like although then crenshaw was you know he got it you got an injury his name is really got purple heart yeah yeah but like that's what i mean it's like you literally did not you're you're the son of a [ __ ] oil engineer born in like scotland you know what i mean like this dude is his dad was i mean his dad's real suspicious dude but i i i i think you know hate the institution but don't hate the uh soldiers no i don't i don't i just i mean i do hate the [ __ ] veterans who are like i served so now everyone else has to get [ __ ] over to in a similar class i'm like how do you not recognize that like you hate what the government has done to you but then you're like advocating for the government to do that to others younger than you like how did you not learn your [ __ ] lesson the [ __ ] wrong with you dan crenshaw is a great example of this right i mean he's a piece of [ __ ] i hate him well so leading up uh to the main point here is that there's this movement on tick-tock um of people flying the black flag which is one of the pirates exactly that's what i thought too but no they're they're not pirates um they are flying it's a trumpest uh threatening symbol saying it's basically a threat of violence and saying we take no prisoners uh hashtag no surrender and here's just a little overview here of what i love the salon.com article on this issue because like the main photo on the salon.com article is literally like this dude's a juggalo patriotic juggalo yeah so here's the a little article about it um yeah i mean what what's going on there dude they love they love larping like they just they love they're [ __ ] nerds dude they're weebs okay they're weebs for like nationalism they're ready for donald trump is so [ __ ] lame understanding the trumpet's latest threatening symbol trump zealots have began flying u.s flags uh which are black which is a signal for no quarter for enemies it's a threat of violence and uh yeah we're gonna get into all that so i'm gonna be honest with you i mean we can look at some of these tick tocks but i feel like a lot of stuff on tick tock i automatically am i'm inclined to assume is just like fake or totally over well you tell me it's not i mean these are real people i don't know i mean people do it but like well here you tell me they're not gonna do [ __ ] let's watch oh no i agree they're not gonna do [ __ ] i mean i'm not it's like they see others and they're like yeah i love that i'm gonna do it too it's like this is uh this one she's explaining what the black flag movement and i think what does a black american flag symbolize it symbolizes no quarters no surrender the opposite of the white flag it originated from the american civil war back in 1861 to 65 he's directly from wrong yeah was never flown in the civil war a black american flag uh no that's also why are you saying that you're a slaver yeah like you're saying like i'm i'm on the losing side there yeah well if wave your [ __ ] black flag see what happens okay john brown that's what happened it means just that the opposite of the white flag no surrender no bro i'm prisoners let me tell you something okay if you [ __ ] got like inherited a car dealership from your [ __ ] piece of [ __ ] father and you live in like a nice little mcmansion in the middle of [ __ ] minnesota okay and you're sitting on your [ __ ] granite counter top island in the middle of your [ __ ] you know nice house that's like uh growing in value okay you're not gonna [ __ ] pick up arms and like kill your neighbors shut the [ __ ] up these people are all talk and also why would you do that for what donald trump like that's getting him there about this movement is that in the south there was obvi this civil war um gruesome deadly horrific event you know in american history the most deadly war by far america's ever fought um and they were fighting over the institution of slavery the southern economy was run on slavery so it was a threat to their very existence in a way their identity what are these people fighting for i don't get the conflict donald trump like but like what's the you know the whole thing no they're fighting for what donald trump represents donald trump is a really good vector for their anger their anger for minority populations at least having like some kind of representation that is ultimately meaningless by the way in the form of like corporations just trying to make money off of them as well even that triggers the [ __ ] out of them you know having a black president in a position of power regardless of whether or not barack obama also uh uh continued on with america's like white supremacist institutions and white supremacist values doesn't matter um that sort of stuff really triggers the [ __ ] out of them and donald trump was a great like [ __ ] you to all of that so they love him they love him because uh regardless of donald trump's like own personal point of view regardless of what he ended up doing in office like you know giving more uh tax cuts for the uh the wealthy since like the rock the ronald reagan era like all that doesn't matter they just they see him as their guy who represents their values and their values are like [ __ ] this entire thing i think that well i think the discontent obviously comes from you know there's a lot of really poor [ __ ] up white people in america too and so they see privilege they hear about all this privilege and white privilege and they go well i don't have any [ __ ] white privilege uh you know my kids aren't going to college and but but they misplaced the but you know where that comes from dude that comes from not having any sort of [ __ ] community that comes from being completely alienated from your labor if you have a job that comes from not having a a support system and the only support system you do have the only sense of community that you get uh is either the church okay and god knows what the [ __ ] your evangelical psychopathic pastor is saying there or from your consumption whether it's a gun okay but like facebook too but like the commodities that we consume become really important parts of our identity because the work that we do no longer is is even remotely interesting or says anything about us right if these people had access to a good income and education they wouldn't give a [ __ ] they wouldn't be angry there's the other side of that too these aren't poor people a lot of the a lot i mean statistically speaking uh if you're wealthy in this country you are more likely to vote republican than democrat i just want to point those out these aren't wealthy people these are like these people these are like people that live in a trailer no no no not all these people not all these people i mean that obviously exists in like places like west virginia for example right incredible amounts of poverty here's a little education for you the black american flag first appeared in the american civil war no didn't confederate army soldiers flew it uh to symbolize the opposite of the white flag so they're honoring their confederate heritage and saying and going a step further and saying we're gonna kill all the yankees the irony is like the slave owners represented a tiny fraction of the southern population right oh but the people that ended up dying weren't the [ __ ] slave owners yeah exactly so they're doing the same [ __ ] you're doing the same [ __ ] you're like dying for someone else's cause slavery were super expensive i mean that that was a huge status symbol to own it dude it's like and these dummies are still [ __ ] throwing their bodies at the problem like those people who who have like a financial interest care about you you think mitch mcconnell gives a [ __ ] about you dude no if he gave a [ __ ] about you he would do anything for kentucky okay like literally anything except for doing all the worst things possible to you know destroy that state no quarter no surrender the black fat flag meant that the unit would not give up nor surrender and that it was be kill or be killed oh that girl is bad ass boy yeah be the be the lie it gets better i'm just trying to give a little educational background yeah uh here some of these people do live in like uh horrible conditions right and that is a factor in their radicalization like but then they're also like the first lady you know there's like rich people that do this [ __ ] too and love this [ __ ] here let me find a really and see this as like a way to larp as like a real american patriot it's all it's all symbols by the way why are people mad at us about joking of talking about the herman cain awards i mean when there's a large portion of the people who are literally fantasizing about civil war and murdering other americans yeah because they're the real americans brothers here's a really good this one is 150 000 lies they think that you know we deserve to be murdered because we're elitist libs and we are the reason why uh you know they just feel shitty every day when in fact i personally think especially if you're not like you know a business owner who employs like hundreds of [ __ ] people or whatever uh you're like i am not your enemy okay we have oh we're aligned i mean we're fighting for their betterment yeah i don't give a [ __ ] if you're like a racist piece of [ __ ] or not like i still think you deserve healthcare as a matter of fact if you get healthcare you'll be more like you'll be less likely to continue being racist at least you'll have like some of your material problems access to college yeah sure uh but here this is a big one this one 150 000 likes that so here it has copyrighted music uh he's this mega rapper it's [ __ ] awesome but oh this is him no no the music is okay this is the day i get orders to go against the constitution i swore to protect he's on the phone mug down the day i will leave lost oh i was about to say this dude is not in the in the military anymore he has the veteran body like this is literally he i refuse to take orders against my oath he's got a constitution on his chest oh [ __ ] the punisher i stand for the constitution of my country what the [ __ ] and i stand for the people of my country no court of giving and the white skull wait this dude has like a like a what is that called like a comforter on top of it it's like a it's like an additional comp yeah he has like a black flag duvet is that what it's called oh i think and yeah but i think that's just light on there it does look like that yeah yeah i love sleeping i put my race car bed with my black flag duvet like this dude has almost i never seen the top of the man bun yeah this is the second comment you're probably a security guard at walmart yeah this dude is not like he's definitely a larper uh he might have been in the military like he may be like national guard or something you know what i mean a lot of dudes do that [ __ ] and then like yeah brother this one this one's tours this one's said with a lot of emotion and feeling i'm curious what your take on this one okay i love this 100 000 likes this is this is big um one nation one nation under god no surrender no retreat uh a viral video of course hashtag god of course uh thirteen following hashtag thirty five stars yeah this is some of us have had enough please watch till the end well i wanna hear what they're playing like a little bit maybe i don't want the mca but like yeah you can play it for a bit it's just some country music about like yeah they all use this song yeah there and then the maga uh rapper they usually might switch salute the 13th fallen and all my brothers and sisters in arms so what i what i find funny is like people it's like bro like [ __ ] like a hundred afghan civilians who were helping the um military got blown up and some by the military oh yeah and they were just firing yeah it was like firing randomly at them i mean a hundred afghans an entire family that [ __ ] exploded an entire family uh of a dude who was literally a [ __ ] uh uh like a humanitarian aid worker who was coming back home got blown away by a hellfire missile strike and then they literally said he was isis and then they were like oops just kidding he wasn't uh i don't know how people can be so callous towards them like i mean first of all horrible what happened to the soldiers of course but um there's no acknowled you see it in the media there's a lot even on cnn i was watching there's no acknowledgement that these [ __ ] a hundred civilians blown up here's what's going on here's what's going on you're [ __ ] you're 18 years old okay you sign and uh you know you get a sweet little camaro okay you get a nice little camaro you you uh impregnate your high school sweetheart who's gonna cheat on you regularly okay here's what's here's what's gonna happen to you are you ready are you excited i'm gonna tell you from all of my [ __ ] really close friends and all the experiences that i've uh that they've at least relayed to me okay your high school sweetheart is cheating on you nobody gives a [ __ ] about what you're doing you're out in a [ __ ] afghan empty poppy field in the middle of like some [ __ ] valley okay dudes with uh way more to [ __ ] lose than you i guess or uh way more of an interest in like being there and know the landscape are shooting at you crack shots from across you don't even know where the [ __ ] shots are being fired from you sit down in a [ __ ] trench and you call air support that's where you're gonna be that's what you're gonna keep doing for a very long time as everyone is like is the media is not covering your uh efforts in afghanistan nobody gives a [ __ ] everybody's too focused on their own [ __ ] out here and you start slowly realizing that as the desperation sets in okay you start getting angry you're like what the [ __ ] why don't they care about this [ __ ] and then one day when you're driving over to a [ __ ] empty poppy field that you're destined to protect or you you're supposed to be protecting i don't know why by the way well that's how you fund you know jsoc operations and cia [ __ ] overseas um okay your [ __ ] gets blown off your your best friend's [ __ ] dick gets blown off by a sniper rifle okay because that's what they're doing and nobody gives a [ __ ] at least those 13 people they [ __ ] died while they were literally evacuating civilians out of afghanistan like those dudes those those people gave their lives in perhaps one of the most honorable ways that you can go out in the [ __ ] military uh most of the [ __ ] casualties are like the dude that you were training last week literally takes the arms that you gave him and shoots you from behind okay like the afghan national security forces that you were training literally just buddy [ __ ] you and then you're dead like that's that's so much worse than at least like trying to evacuate civilians babies women children out of afghanistan and then dying to a [ __ ] terror attack the thing about these civilians that nobody cares about too is like these are civilians that the that we are in debt to these are yeah we [ __ ] their lives we [ __ ] their whole lives specifically these are ones that risked their lives to help the military many of them translators stuff like that you know that we promised amnesty to even the regular civilians i mean yeah but [ __ ] up but these are people we literally promised amnesty to because they [ __ ] risked their lives and their families lives to be a work for the american army knowing that if the taliban ever came back which they did they'd be murdered the taliban also didn't come back the taliban was brought back by the american government the donald trump administration facilitated and negotiated that deal facilitated the uh the release of five thousand taliban prisoners including baradar who is like the main taliban guy was in a [ __ ] pakistani prison that they literally flew out of that prison to meet with mike pompeo so any [ __ ] this is like oh joe bottom blah blah blah like i can't believe this and i give a lot of props to joe biden and i even gave a little bit of props to a lot of props to donald trump for even like even broaching the subject of evacuation and finally ending our 20-year long endeavor here in our longest imperial conquest so far uh but uh you know it's it's literally the way that the american government uh handled the situation they always knew this was going to happen those dudes wanted it more and we got [ __ ] owned sorry that's just the reality no we don't we got owned by [ __ ] rice farmers in vietnam always yeah dude yeah yeah wearing flip-flops and we got owned by dudes wearing again flip-flops and [ __ ] dresses in afghanistan okay that's just how it is stop pedaling with other countries businesses like this it's so [ __ ] stupid it doesn't matter how much you spend on each soldier uh the dudes with the flip-flops and dresses will always [ __ ] he wants more that's his [ __ ] country and you're literally creating uh you're well not only do we build these terror networks directly by the way the cia did that also look up operation cyclone but even jimmy carter did that against the ussr but we also like we also created an environment that was so volatile and so [ __ ] horrifying that of course people were like well you know i don't really [ __ ] like the taliban but i mean god damn it these guys are are coming in from [ __ ] iowa and like shooting at me and yeah blowing up my [ __ ] family like i'm gonna fight back yeah the one really disturbing thing i heard is that uh this was actually even especially under obama is because the drone strikes were so frequent that the kids and the families of uh in these countries feared the clear skies yeah because the bombs could come at any moment from a drone strike and they felt more comfortable during overcast because they knew the drones were impossible to drop i mean that is living in that perpetual terror it absolutely [ __ ] it's disgusting yeah um 70 or more than 60 000 civilian casualties and the most conservative estimations uh in both pakistan and afghanistan uh as a consequence of strikes american citizens were extrajudicially killed in these drone strikes as well uh and not only that but uh obama only apologized when he blew up a [ __ ] hospital in kunduz okay and they were like my bad sorry about that and a bunch of doctors without borders like you know like a french doctor an italian doctor were [ __ ] murdered in the process i mean we killed journalists we killed medics indiscriminately we kill civilians indiscriminately it is horrifying we are a monstrous [ __ ] nation and ultimately the the gains of said activity don't even come back to us they it doesn't even come back that wouldn't justify it by the way but it doesn't even come back to you that soldier that goes out there he's not benefiting from that at all he's just a [ __ ] pawn okay you're selling your life you're selling your body you're selling your [ __ ] soul and then you get nothing in return and punk trauma yeah except lifelong trauma and and you know maybe you'll get [ __ ] five percent off at denny's on a wednesday you know what i mean and then everybody's like jerking you off like oh thank you for your service yeah you get it they don't give a [ __ ] nobody cares well hold on this guy cares no he doesn't yes he does i salute all 13. hold on wait for it and tell me he doesn't care that's a that's awesome yeah that's right well this guy seems like he's served uh he's upset he's taking down the american flag with this i hate that we had to do this yep it's time it's time girl go get the black american flag dude look how many flags this [ __ ] has dude it's crazy well it's it's all the thing is when you endorse his trauma you have to rationalize it right so it becomes your idea somebody had justified i don't know what he's making a stand against so they're flying the black american flag uh this is i guess you know uh uh uh yeah i don't know what do you they never say what are you making a stand against they're just angry what they're just [ __ ] angry but he says we have to make a stand against what um against i don't know they don't know what they're saying see that's the [ __ ] funny thing people are common ism people are like oh it's because islam is so dangerous uniquely dangerous like [ __ ] you're blowing up their families and and blowing up their infrastructure they got nothing like they got nothing anyone and they want to fight back against this foreign force but then you put up a [ __ ] black flag when you can't get your jalopono poppers at applebee's because there's like [ __ ] you know uh mask mandates and vaccine mandates i guess that's my only thing is that i'm kind of discern is that they're ready to go to civil war over is the fact that the headaches the mask mandates this top comet says bite and say their name i i don't know i don't know um yeah breaks my heart we live in a very sad world it scares the hell out of me to see what this world would be when my babies grow up uh leave the red white and blue up just put the black flag next to it we can't get rid of the old glory that's their plan there you go playing right into our trap brother millions stand by beside you we all need to stand up at one time swords uh anyway there's a fetish basically and people whipping it up the flag they want to [ __ ] the flag they want to [ __ ] they do actually yeah um but people are there's actually a lot of people whipping up the civil war thing like tim paul is obsessed with it too but as we go on let's see here's another one it's just like dude i promise you you would want free education good shelter a meaningful life just like everyone else does and yeah you know you're you're not gonna get that you're just like these i mean see these are like relatively nice houses that's what i'm saying this is a nice house yeah it's not always this notion that these are all like [ __ ] you know really poor people is is not a true one and that's like i mean are there definitely if you drive through poor white parts of the country it's all bag it out oh for sure but again at least amongst the voter base because the overwhelming majority of poor people don't [ __ ] vote that's the issue okay they don't vote because who the [ __ ] are they gonna vote for how are they gonna take time off work to go vote yeah so voting is like a rich person's uh endeavor for the most part in comparison to the working poor in this country so let's get that straight well here is margarine taylor gross and got him again uh the titan uh senator yeah attack on congress all right you gonna tell me that that's working class dude real estate developer that like inherited her business like she's not none of these people are no i don't think she is but they use the working class so uh anyway marger margarine taylor green is uh just a few days ago uh saying should america get a national divorce so there you have it i say yes uh 43 say yes oh no stay together that's actually shocking i love the nine percent undecided yeah i'll go either way whatever that's just that just shows like they're all yeah i don't give a [ __ ] yeah i mean it's all it's all fluff right this is all like uh fantasies it's just it's it's conservative virtue signaling well they couldn't even do [ __ ] with like no police wars at the capitol you kidding me like first of all um the fbi now i feel like is doing pretty much what they did to muslims uh under the obama and george w bush administrations and under the trump administration as well there i feel like they're now doing nearly identical things to like white uh radicalized people you know what i mean like white extremists and uh you know white separatist movements white extremist movements anti-government uh movements because they are responsible for the line share of of domestic terror incidents in this country since 9 11 i believe more than 75 percent even higher now probably and they're basically [ __ ] infiltrating groups the the same thing happened with like gretchen whitmer right where they were like come on you want to do a little terror thing come on right right come on you you want some tannerite hey what's going on brother you want to do some direct action you know that's like that's just you're a [ __ ] clown you're you're trying to blow off steam with your homies okay you're getting a you're a weekend warrior you go to like a little gathering you put a tent up you know you train for the inevitable apocalypse and then the fbi sends you some text messages or uh you know an informant sends you some text messages and rile you up so then you say dumb [ __ ] like yeah we are gonna kidnap the governor you're not gonna do [ __ ] shut the [ __ ] up i mean there are really serious uh versions of this like atom often within the american military like a nazi group that has actually done a bunch of terror plots that have been foiled but then you know is i i just personally don't think like they're going to do [ __ ] oh i agree i mean it was all about adam waffen i know about what atom waffen oh that's the group that uh was swatting yeah they were swatting me a bunch of times and she just went to jail but those guys are actually psychos well i mean they that's why i said they're like legit those are because they recruit foreign [ __ ] i i was like oh [ __ ] these are actually like murderous white supremacists though yeah yeah yeah they're kidding me they get caught with like [ __ ] you know like explosives and stuff regularly like they're they're no but the fbi is pretty on them it seems like but regardless but this is kind of what scared me in a poll a recent poll 52 of trump voters say they want to separate and then what actually really surprised me is 41 percent of vote biden voters said they wanted to separate but it's all just like hogwash right like the the actual the actual boiling point of going to war with your own brothers i guess these people probably think it'd be like a cold a cold separation a cold war you know but like here's my question i mean first of all a lot like it would be over like it would be so bad for the red states with the exception of like texas like what the [ __ ] you got nothing and it's funny because like even if you go back to the civil war you know a lot of people think it was like a valiant war the north crushed the south the south never had a chance of beating the north and um federal government and here by the way is um available at the same website you can get a fleshlight the american flag because for true patriots only finally the patriot the fleshlight for me yeah i always wanted to [ __ ] a rubber [ __ ] but you know it was just i'm gonna come yeah but so like you know i actually did some research they said okay the conservatives want to make their own country uh the red states and we say okay go ahead and make your own [ __ ] uh go ahead and make the new confederacy let's see how economically this is going to turn out for you guys um this only frustrates them further by the way when you point this out this is from 2008 the disparity is even bigger gdp 64 blue state yeah it's it's uh widened since then um you got louisiana and you got texas those are the big like two red states that are they got a lot going on by the way here's medium income from blue increasing here is the medium income of red states decreasing by the way these are directly this doesn't have anything to do with like you know people being hogs or whatever this is directly a consequence of austerity measures implemented in red states whether because it's like politically uh the right thing to do because you're like auntie obama during the obama administration or like you know anti-democrat or because you're directly in the pocket of wealthy benefactors who stand to gain the most from uh not paying taxes so that is the reason why there's so much economic inequality in these areas and that of course radicalizes people to to a degree where they're [ __ ] putting up black flags outside of their houses to like fight for god knows what here's the jobs and blue in the blue state there would be about uh 60 to 70 percent of tech high paying tech jobs finance insurance etc and in the red state you can expect to be working in agricultural and mining and basic manufacturing so basically the and then i have more data here um let's see here's the dependency chart so if you look at the federal government obviously every state pays into the federal government and um some states get more than others so if we go down to the this is really interesting return on tax dollar okay so at the worst return you're looking at states like delaware okay it's at the very bottom blue state uh for every dollar they pay the federal government they get 48 cents back yeah uh they're almost entirely blue with the ex with the exception of nebraska delaware is the is the tax haven uh state so right so but so go to new jersey new jersey they get 56 cents back for every dollar they spend if you go to the bottom red state north dakota [Music] gets four dollars back for every dollar this country this state would be absolutely third world i mean it's it's literally a carve out for uh republican uh senate seats so right it does yeah but i mean new mexico recently went blue uh west virginia you've got 290 mississippi 280 um except it's it's almost entirely done by alaska i guess they do need a lot of federal funding because alaska is also resource rich yeah but so alaska is [ __ ] deep into debt 2.58 cents for every dollar they pay see the thing is like i don't fault these red states for taking more uh federal funding they need it but they want to separate they need it right they want to separate um yeah i mean that's why i laugh at it here's new york new york for every dollar they pay 70 cents get back here's california 75 cents get back so if you all want to go make your own new confederacy expect to be a third world [ __ ] country i mean they are though but that's the so ethan that is what's going on like in america we live in a blue state right we live in a wealthy part of a blue state so our experiences are drastically different than someone who lives in the appalachian mountains you know what i mean like that guy is literally living in uh desolate third world conditions so much so that like european ngos actually come in and do dental work uh inside of stadiums in places like west virginia like it's so [ __ ] horrifying yeah and these are comparable conditions that we subject our fellow uh american men and women to like this is what we've done to them and i and i i it sucks like it hurts my [ __ ] soul when i see that where i'm just like i want to give these people health care i want to give these people an opportunity i want to give these people an industry to work in um it doesn't matter like it doesn't have to it it doesn't always have to be fracking or [ __ ] coal mining it can be anything else especially if you've been out of a job for a decade like you're gonna take another job especially if it's a well-paying one um and it just it sucks to see and uh neither party is like doing enough to address that at all uh and and because of that both parties rely on a never-ending culture war where it's like if you're democrat you're good if you're a republican you're good you're a patriot you care about you know we care about the the rights of the unborn it's like no dude they don't give a [ __ ] these people don't give a [ __ ] about anything okay neither party's representatives for the most part give a single flying [ __ ] about you especially if you're poor they only care about you if you make more than 250 000 a year that's the reality that's the unfortunate reality and because of that they do everything in their power to make sure you can't even [ __ ] vote well you know it's just interesting how i feel like socialism and and i mean even even democrats more so than than the parties they vote for are working so much more in their interests and yet these hogs uh the propagandists the think tanks the ones that don't give a single [ __ ] about them are somehow through the culture war have got them blindly loyal to the point where they're ready to go to for a civil war putting up black flags to fight against their own economic interests and welfare i mean here finally i mean they did it during the confederacy that's what i'm saying like they don't it wouldn't have changed anything for them that dramatically i mean they benefited from i guess slavery but like ultimately they fought they were rich people oh the rich they fought for rich people they died for [ __ ] rich slave owners and they're doing it again yeah i mean that yeah they were fighting for at yeah it's interesting because it wasn't it was fully unmasked then but it was also about racial it they may have been poor but at least they knew they were better than black people no that's tony heasy quotes talks about that uh has written extensively on that subject that racial division in the reconstruction era benefited capital owners because it created a it created a a a system where working-class whites that were also in like horrible uh poverty conditions always at least had someone to punch down at or someone to uh feel superior yeah and that and that was really it was a long way yeah that did go a long way and it's by the way they're getting phillips motivator it really is a final note we're running out of time but a final note on the civil war thing here just to enjoy your future confederacy overall dependency score uh red states this is overall metric for all red versus blue states much more dependent on federal aid uh much higher return on dollar federal funding much higher and uh well this is kind of like covet related decline uh in state budgets i don't know what the [ __ ] that one means but that means that uh i think like uh the the coffers were emptied out in red states because people just didn't have enough income to pay taxes or because a lot of the people that made so during covid we had a what is known as a k-shape recovery so the wealthy people made a [ __ ] load of money like some of these billionaires yeah like double their worth they doubled their net worths right whereas the working poor specifically in the service industry or specifically in like you know gig economy jobs they got left behind severely uh even if you were an essential employee or an essential worker like we were like oh we're gonna celebrate you we're gonna [ __ ] you know bust out the pans at 8 p.m like we don't give a [ __ ] we were doing the military treatment to those very same people we were doing that exact same [ __ ] where it's like fake veneration so you shut the [ __ ] up and you do your job but you know if you want money nope these businesses will not give you extra money we will not do hazard pay we will not give you overtime if you want that then [ __ ] off you can [ __ ] off and die right red states have a lot of that and then red states have a lot of wealth louisiana specifically is one of the richest because of resources and one of the poorest [ __ ] places in the country at the same time interesting and the reason for that is because it's resource dense okay but also there's a lot of income inequality a lot of wealth inequality because there is no distribution there is no distribution of the wealth that literally is like right under the [ __ ] ground and in the water like they just don't they take all that and they keep it at the [ __ ] tippy top and that's precisely why when the wealthy were making a lot of money in places like california where there is a you know 13 tax when the wealthy made a lot of money the state got a 55 billion dollar budget surplus but in places like louisiana even if the wealthy were making a lot of money because uh you know the tax structure there benefits the wealthy and not the poor well their states didn't actually see uh gigantic uh uh returns on uh in a similar capacity to like blue states well we are at a time uh too bad we didn't get to superman as bisexual i know dude every time we do this i'm like [ __ ] there's so much more to cover i know there's so much more to cover but we have a two hour limit on youtube because we want them we have a rating system youtube green lights to make sure we don't get demonetized and they say if it's over two hours we're not gonna watch that [ __ ] damn so we gotta wrap it up shout out to the youtubers watching this then you know yeah the shout out to the raiders hope you give us the green one and uh thank you for watching everybody this has been the leftovers going hog wild since 2021 welcome back donald trump we can't wait to see you there's going to be the remember come on now fly those black flags you true blood americans no quarter no quarter given yeah to the military and police by the way and and don't forget the tow truck drivers which is a more dangerous job than police apparently oh for sure thank you for watching everyone [Music]

Channel: H3 Podcast

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Id: EgwOxM_2CW8

Length: 128min 48sec (7728 seconds)

Published: Sun Oct 17 2021

Reddit Comments

[u/DukSoup]

Ben Shapiro got a wet ass 🅱️USSY! 🥵💦

[u/Dapper_Egg_346]

Ben Shapiro is like an evil version of Sheldon from big bang theory.

[u/rajde1]

I really like when they get into long conversations and get into more detail. The Amazon/bezos conversation was great.

[u/radogene]

Honestly I really enjoy this show. For me, I've seen Hasan in things and wanted to listen to what he has to say but I simply don't have the time to watch him on Twitch everyday for however many hours. This show allows for a light hearted glimpse into that world and having Ethan as the catalyst is the cherry on top.

[u/EerieArizona]

It's almost like a Ben Shapiro Content Court.

[u/musimuse]

I loved this episode! I like how Ethan pushes back a little bit on Hassan's politics and This podcast keeps getting better each week! I was a poli sci major though so I am a little biased.

[u/Appropriate_Poem8947]

Anyone know what the meaning of the flag is that shows up behind Dan?

[u/jwiches]

Loved this episode. Really love how Ethan is definitely asking more questions on the things he's less knowledgeable on. Loved it. Thanks H3

[u/syntheticgerbil]

I bet that guy who was here last week criticizing Hasan for wearing clothes made from slave labor feels pretty stupid now.
Assuming they watched this episode. I think some people are just Ben Shapiro fans trolling though.