First Thanksgiving - SNL
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Channel: Saturday Night Live
Views: 7,582,326
Rating: undefined out of 5
Keywords: snl, saturday night live, snl season 45, snl 45, will ferrell, beck bennett, melissa villaseรฑor, first thanksgiving, thanksgiving, history, native american, pilgrim, pocahontas, john smith, wall, immigration, Will Ferrell, Maya Rudolph, Fred Armisen, s45, s45e7, episode 7, live, new york, comedy, sketch, funny, hilarious, late night, host, music, guest, laugh, impersonation, actor, musician, Will Ferrell SNL, Step Brothers, Elf, Anchorman, Talladega Nights, More Cowbell
Id: SDUDlAEv5pU
Channel Id: undefined
Length: 5min 16sec (316 seconds)
Published: Sat Nov 23 2019
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โBone dryโ lol. So true to life, wash ya hands people. ๐ฌ
Yeah, this was a really good piece of work. Also big shout out for the costumes and sets - every single skit seems to have Hollywood quality production values.
He literally calls the sketch problematic during his โhi Iโm will ferrelโ part. They knew it was messed up and that was the point. It was basically all an elaborate poop joke.
This seems clever at first, but falls flat in my opinion. I get what they were going for, but the metaphor falls through for a variety of reasons.
Few will argue that what the settlers did to the natives (and continued to do for hundreds of years) was anything but objectively bad. I'd argue however, that framing the latter as the out-of-touch xenophobes doesn't quite work; following with the "they turned out to be right" logic of the sketch seemingly asserts that the modern-day people of that mindset that these characters analogs of of are correct as well, which seems at odds with SNL's usual leanings.
I agree with commenters saying it's pretty lazy. There have been political memes framing the immigration debate in terms of 'native-pilgrim' vs 'conservative-immigrant' that have circulated since Trump was in office (if not beforehand as well). It's a stale take considering the SNL writers' talent with political satire otherwise. And to have it result in (another) drawn-out poop joke? C'mon.
Just sucks that people are downvoting /u/buttrflytattoo for bringing up some valid critiques of the sketch, instead of engaging and being able to talk about it. Even if you're coming from the standpoint that comedy is 'allowed' to be offensive, ending an offensive sketch with a monologue acknowledging its problematic aspects is pretty weak writing. Remember "Show, don't tell"?
Not saying I'm gonna boycott SNL since it mostly seems like more of the same old tone-deaf portrayals of Native Americans for comedy's sake. But I'm all ears for how a Native American person would respond to this, how it might offend them, etc. instead of shutting down the topic completely. (Not to assume /u/buttrflytattoo's race specifically, just generally speaking). Why the fragility? It's not a good look.
I am unsure about whether I should laugh at this one. It was certainly selfaware, but some of the messaging is still very wrong. Perhaps that was the point.
How? Came off as super lazy to me.