VFX Artists React to Bad & Great CGi 35

whoa what look at the definition of the ridges on his muscles there's like a lot of subtle things going on here that are kind of blowing my mind right now the most noticeable thing is just how saturated the green is thanks to expressvpn for sponsoring this video stick around to the end to see how you can get three months free hey what's up welcome back to another episode of visual effects artists react we got niko we got clint we got myself wren here and today we're going to be looking at a bunch of different visual effects some hulk shots from different movies that have the hulk in them and comparing the technology the things it did and a whole section of effects that you've probably seen before but never in this context let's get started is this journey to the west it is journey to the west nico dude it's budget gandalf no thank you excuse me what look at the veins on that leg is this an entirely cg foot it's gotta be wait why did it make the veins and the veins just disappear and the foot comes out of a different spot wait what wait roll that back wait it's like halfway through the art direction they're like okay the foot gonna materialize right there and the veins grow and then the foot doesn't actually interesting interesting dude all of the hair on that leg too i know it's it's it's too real it's really well done [Laughter] dude i love this foot clench when he's like he gets serious he's like yeah all right so how do you think they did that well definitely with reference they had to have referenced an actual foot clenching you can see how the skin actually like flexes up over the knuckles and bones when the foot is flexing and you see the veins bulge a little bit as like the blood flow increases that's not something you can just do with basic animation that's something we need to start using either like surface displacement where you are raising and lowering the geometry based on a texture map and an artist is just dialing it in by hand there's no sense to build a full system of like muscle and bones for this one shot we can probably have an artist just kind of go in and like move the mesh and the geometry by hand [Music] i think they probably filmed that for real how would they have got him up do you think he's on wires luckily we got a little bts clip to beat us we got to beat his clip oh he's on a stilt and wires so it's straight up all the motion notice how the dudes are wearing blue screens it's like one of the most overrated things on hollywood productions is putting someone in a green screen suit is so unnecessary he includes them yeah but they're going to rotoscope him anyway you're right and you'll notice in the shot they have been landing and the actual shot they're slightly different they rebuild the geometry of the background roughly so they can reproject the image so they can animate him a little bit and animate the camera a little bit differently to give you like this leg shot basically the camera goes up over him so with the exception of the main actor this entire shot is cg even though it's from a real plate that plate is projected onto the geometry and then re-rendered so in essence that's new cg it's because they didn't actually have the foot there on set when they filmed the shot so they kind of sweetened the camera angle to show the foot in its best light basically exactly yeah it's like it's hard to compose for something that doesn't exist it's usually easier just to recreate the [Music] shot yeah this is a little fun one for you guys another stephen chow clip [Music] okay kung pao enter the fist it came out in 2002 this is an 18 year old movie it can vote now this is just a weird movie it's a great super weird it's so good there's one thing that really stood out to me having looked back on it is that this has some incredible blue screen comping so they bought the rights to a really old kung fu film and then put steve odenkirk into the entire film and they did a really good job with it to the point where it's like it doesn't immediately register as being an old film with a new guy put into it i thought they filmed the whole movie just as is yeah see that was the thing i mean they do technically film a bunch of original stuff for this movie and you can actually kind of tell because it has that newer aesthetic to it like less green and whatnot but there's a huge chunk of this movie that has just repurposed old footage and they comp him into those shots it looks really good dude there's like a lot of subtle things going on here that are kind of blowing my mind right now you have to paint that guy out which means you have to paint back in the guy behind him who's moving around also they're matching like the film stock to it that's the thing that's craziest to me is like they are matching the quality of the film stock like perfectly this shot right here when he actually attacks the guy they do something really interesting here they utilize his arms that go in front of his head and they use that as a transitional wipe they actually just film different plates with his angle static and set up perfectly it's just very classic cut it out stick it on the footage that's it also they set up the lighting perfectly on set when they recorded this stuff it's like the best thing you can do for matching blue screen or green screen footage is just make sure your lighting setup is as close as possible to the stuff that you're going to comp into it is basic they're doing basic effects here but they're so effective yeah they're doing so well the hand of the artist here is very deft this movie has so many bizarre sequences in it though like do you remember the whole cow sequence oh boy oh my god [ __ ] chick-fil-a commercial oh jeez dude remember this is 2002. this is like that's pretty funny everything about this is just utterly ridiculous utterly ridiculous that was good okay are you ready for the most referenced vfx shot of the early 2000s oh my god how do you think they did that though this is just he's on wires and they're running around with a camera he's just pretending to be in slow motion yep that's the easiest way to do it is to fake it the thing that made the matrix bullet dodge scene so good is the fact that he's actually moving at full speed in real time but because of the camera setup they actually were able to make it real slow motion it's the coat that made it yeah yeah whereas in this movie he's just like literally hanging on wires like i'm in slow motion so kung pao was actually super inspiring to me back when this came out is in 2002 is like at the height of sam and myself just doing vfx on our home computers and kung pao is like the most basic of vfx techniques it's like it's a dude shot on a blue screen and then like cut out and stuck into the footage and that's it and like it was such a great demonstration of just like how much magic you could make with after effects 3.0 and your pc it's just it's such a just a great demonstration of like this is what we could be doing the limit is in our computer the limit is just our technique in our imagination and our storytelling so i got to thinking about the hulk from marvel movies and the fact that the hulk has been different in every single movie he's ever been in so i wanted to take a look at some of the biggest changes throughout the last couple decades of hulks [Music] is this the first hulk movie right yeah so this is the very first hulk movie i mean it's not the first hulk movie you are correct nico they had hulk back in the 70s uh with uh ray romano ray romano why did i say ray romano so anyway so this is the first time they actually have a cg hulk this movie came out before the mcu existed this is way before iron man is that shrek it looks like shrek it's a little shrek running at the dog show yes yeah yes oh my god the most noticeable thing is just how saturated the green is look at how green the hook is and that immediately makes them stand out as being unrealistic because look at the saturation of the trees in the background of the ground around him totally they're so less saturated than the green of the hulk you could literally just take the shot of this hulk into premiere eye dropper the green and desaturate it and it'll instantly look way better it's actually very similar to the very first episode ever made on sonic the hedgehog where he had the same issue where color levels didn't match the background which they didn't prove for the final movie yes they did one could say it's a creative choice perhaps perhaps yeah there are a lot of weird creative choices in this movie especially with all like little comic panels that fly around the scene the thing is when you when you over saturate him you're artificially raising the light levels so an object is only becoming slightly brighter than what would be physically accurate so it's a choice but it's an immediate choice to make your cg not look real the cg that you spent millions and millions and millions of dollars on to have muscle simulations and subsurface scattering and hair and dirt and all that kind of stuff it's like oh turn up the green a little bit too immediately breaking your render and making it look fake the animation is really well done yeah really well animation superb like they definitely give them a lot of strength and like heft and mass i mean this is the first time they'd really tried any sort of cg hulk so everything here was first pass experimental type stuff the second movie with the hulk was the incredible hulk starring eric norton edward edward norton that's what i see eric norton now this is officially part of the mcu it's the second mcu film to ever come out right after the first iron man and they made some more creative changes for instance there's a lot more like surface detail in the skin of the hulk and he's a lot more like a rugged look and he's a lot more mean looking man look at that muscle yeah dude the veins the muscles like he flexes and you see like the muscles flex and whatnot so he actually looks less photoreal though yeah than the 2003 one he looks like a video game cinematic character dude that's how the army deploys they have ramps whoa dude that smile did anime hulk look like devil may cry they're definitely putting a lot more effort into like having character in the face but it's still just generic character it doesn't resemble edward norton at all yeah like they gotta drop the beat drop the feet this is so cool so now that i'm actually seeing this like the thing that stands out the most about this hulk is just how stringy his muscles are yeah like you could see every individual strand going across his chest and through his freaking deltoids and triceps it's like so much muscular details it's got an aaron jaeger titan vibe going on here's the biggest difference i am seeing between this and the 2003 hulk they are not really worrying about photo realism anymore what do you and just rendering them out with some polygon like they're still making him look good but it's much more painterly and animation based than it is trying to make it feel like this is real it's on set the lighting is accurate and sometimes he looks real but more often than not he looks like an animated character you know it's like the sun's always edge lighting him whereas in angles hulk the sun is not always edge lighting him the sun is accurately placed in the first hulk he's very front lit a lot of the time just very flat but when you're more edge lit you get more definition with the shadows and whatnot i think saying not being worried about making it look real is a little bit of a harsh thing there obviously taking that into account they're prioritizing a stylized look rather than pure photorealistic scenes you're right you're right i am oversimplifying and because at the end of the day they're still trying to make something look realistic that is still the primary goal across every single shot is to make it look like it's real even if it's slightly stylized to look better hyper real that's the thing all this stuff looks hyper real rather than realistic so how does mark ruffalo stack up against these other two hulks the biggest change from the first two movies to the avengers was the fact that they actually modeled the hulk to look like mark ruffalo dr banner now might be a really good time for you to get angry that's my secret captain i'm always angry i'm always hungry that's the line i'm always hungry so somebody on the street came up to me like i watch all your videos i mean that's really cool how do you watch all my videos have you subscribed yet they turn around to me they go that's my secret i'm always subscribed and they walk away so you can be like that cool person who's also like the hulk and subscribe to our channel please still pretty green yeah i'm actually a little surprised because they made a whole point of being like we desaturated the green to make them look more realistic but i think the green is actually more saturated in this scene than in the incredible hulk so still super detailed but i feel like the physics and the muscle structure is much more like accurate to an organism now like you can see his muscles on his shoulder blades twitching and flexing look at the definition of the ridges on his muscles like on the left side of the screen there there we go see that is super realistic looking to me they actually have like that poor detail across all of his skin it looks like he's wearing one of those airplane neck pillows i'd say that there's less muscle detail in this version of the hulk than the second one but it looks better in this one yeah the second one was like a little too maxed out for me on the muscles you know yeah a little bit too much like i'm in a muscle competition [Music] they spent a ton of effort on the face yeah the biggest change is just all about that face they have so much more like facial animation points here it looks way more like mark ruffalo it looks more like a realistic person within this green character it's a very realistic final result so that was like the first mark ruffalo hulk right and it looks very good and they continued to improve the little aspects of them as the movies went on let's talk about avengers end game which had the most rufflized hulk all right we all have our assignments stay low keep an eye on the clock so there's the original hulk from the 2012 avengers do you think they grabbed the old model you would think and they actually thought that like okay we could just reuse the original model but all the technology surrounding that had come so far they couldn't reuse the original hulk asset so they had to remake the original hulk as close as they could to the original maybe smash a few things along the way i think it's gratuitous but whatever this whole looks just looks like mark ruffalo so between the two final avengers movies basically bruce banner figured out how to merge his personality with hulk i put the brains and the brawn together and so they became professor hulk the idea is that he's all of bruce banner's smarts with the hokiness of the hulk i mean he would de-hulk to like go to sleep and like no did he build him did he build a new house did he does he have a new bag he's rich man he lives in a freaking flying aircraft carrier all right like you can really see the detail in his face now like that is absolutely 100 mark ruffalo with a green texture over them now essentially right obviously it's all cg but it's so driven by the original mark ruffalo knight and of course they actually have mark ruffalo on set for pretty much every single scene and so he's actually being there acting with all the other actors and they just completely replace him with the digital version of him it's pretty standard practice in these movies but it's just so much more finessed and detailed now that all of his little micro movements are actually coming through now yeah you're getting like the crow's feet wrinkles on the sides of his eyes yeah so the first two hulks look nothing like the actor that drove them but then even within the mark ruffalo versions of the hulk they get more and more like mark ruffalo throughout the course of the movies yeah clint these movies aren't bad you should watch these are actually pretty they're good movies i'm gonna say it the mcu movies specifically the adventurous ones are works of art and they are achievements in film and if you call yourself a filmmaker you deserve to show them some respect look ant-man sure buy the books whatever the iron man 3 buy the books whatever but the avengers movies are works of art by some fantastic we're literally making clint yawn i mean honestly for the much like as much crap as you guys give me for not watching them i think it'd be easier if i just watched them so you guys would just stop giving crap yeah if you subscribe to the channel you'll get clint to actually watch in-game and you can't make me do anything right okay it's really cool to see how technology has changed just in the last 18 years of making marvel movies alrighty now it is time to talk about expressvpn what is a vpn you might ask whenever you are connected to the internet all those bytes you're sending out can be intercepted and read by third parties and you don't want that you want to have privacy when you're communicating with the internet so basically a vpn just creates a secure little tunnel that blasts through the internet that no one can penetrate with their hacking abilities and of course expressvpn is the best one out there no joke i actually legitimately used our coupon code to buy expressvpn like i actually legit did that because i needed one i also used another vpn in the past and it was so slow but the nice thing about expressvpn is that it's actually really fast so let's say that there's a show that you really like on a streaming platform for instance you cannot watch rick and morty 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Channel: Corridor Crew

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Keywords: vfx artists react, vfx, cgi, visual effects, hollywood, shot breakdown, movies, behind the scenes, stuntmen, hulk, the hulk, edward norton, ang lee, eric bana, mark ruffalo, avengers endgame

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Length: 19min 12sec (1152 seconds)

Published: Sat Oct 24 2020