Welcome to the
Believer's Voice
of Victory. I'm Jeremy
Pearsons. This week, my
grandfather,
Kenneth
Copeland, is joined by Mark
and Trina Hankins. Now these broadcast were
recorded in the BVOV studio for their program with Brother
Copeland as their guest. And they covered how to develop
the spirit of faith in you to overcome and advance
and take new ground. And the revelation that they
shared about the spirit of faith was powerful. It was practical. So we wanted to share
these messages of faith with our partners and
our friends as well. So let's join them now
for today's study on how the spirit of faith will move the mountains
in your life. [Mark Hankins] 2
Corinthians 4:13 says, "We having the same
identical spirit of
faith, according as it is
written, I believed
in there for have I
spoken?" He said, "We
also believe and
therefore
speak." And so the spirit of faith
has these two main
ingredients. Number one, I'm a believer,
I believe, I believe God, have faith in God, faith
in the Word of God, faith in the blood of Jesus,
faith in the name of Jesus, faith in the power of God. I am a believer, I
believe and I speak. Someone said it this way,
"Even the devil don't care what you believe, if
you'll be quiet about it." In other words, when
you believe and speak, that's the spirit of faith. And that spirit of faith
is actually contagious. [Trina Hankins] It's contagious. [Kenneth Copeland] Super
contagious. [Mark Hankins] Ah ah ah... The
fear is contagious. [Kenneth Copeland]
Remember this now, in the beginning, there was no
fear. There was none. Adam was full of faith. Nobody sinned and died
until Adam sinned and died. And God told him, "The day you
eat that you're going to die." So he died spiritually. Now what was his faith? He was disconnected from
God in the spirit and connected with the devil. [Mark Hankins] Fear. [Kenneth Copeland] So what's
the next thing that happened? Instead of faith coming when
he heard the voice of God, fear came and he hid from Him. - Wow. - So fear and faith are the same
thing but exact opposite. [Mark Hankins] Just the
opposite. [Kenneth Copeland]
Faith comes by hearing and hearing by the Word of God. Fear comes by hearing
and listening to the
lies of the devil. [Trina Hankins] Negative. [Kenneth Copeland] It's
like a compass there. Just take a compass
for instance, North and South
are the same thing. They are degrees of a compass,
but they're exact opposites. That's faith versus fear. So the same laws are going
to govern both of them. [Mark Hankins] Yeah. Now you know my mom
and my mama's case, my dad and my mom... You've been to my
dad's church years ago. And my dad and my mom pastored
in a little town called West Columbia, Texas. They pastored
there for 50
years. And my dad's church,
there's only 3,000 people
in town, but my dad's
church grew
from about 20 people over
2,000 people. And there are 3,000
in town. And so my dad stayed
there 50 years. But when they started out, my
dad had a heart attack as a young man. My mom had a nervous breakdown and was totally
controlled by fear. Now both of them had been saved
and filled with the Holy spirit, even called to the ministry. But my mom lived in fear
and ended up in depression in the back bedroom for
almost two years. But when dad Hagin came
along and taught on the authority of the
believers to have faith in God. Interesting, because we knew the
Bible, we love Jesus, was saved, even filled the Holy spirit, but we didn't understand
how faith works. So when dad Hagin
came and taught on the authority of
the believer, my dad took the Word
to the back bedroom and got my momma to start
speaking the Word. And he would tell my
mama now say this. And she would say, "God has
not given me a spirit of fear, but of power and love
and of sound mind." And in the middle of that
darkness and depression, her speaking the Word of God brought her out of that--
[Kenneth Copeland] Absolutely. [Mark Hankins] ...and
gave her victory. [Kenneth Copeland] Mark,
what is fear? It's faith. [Mark Hankins] But some people
call it a disabling belief. [Kenneth Copeland] Well it is. Well, faith in a
dangerous animal. [Mark Hankins] Is reverse. Yeah. [Kenneth Copeland] Now, If you
can't find the same fundamentals in Goliath's mouth, then it
doesn't follow the fundamentals. The devil knows
he's got to say it. He knows he has to. So when it came up and came
time, I mean, they're there. So let's go from-- [Mark Hankins] You were
in 1 Samuel 17. [Kenneth Copeland]
Yeah, 1 Samuel 17. [Mark Hankins] And this
is the spirit of faith David killing Goliath. [Kenneth Copeland] There's
killing Goliath. And he never did say,
"I'm going to try." [Mark Hankins] No, he never
even left a note for his mama in case it didn't work. (laughs) [Kenneth Copeland] He
never did say that. He said, "I'll go fight him,
and I will kill him." [Mark Hankins] I will kill him. [Kenneth Copeland] And he
started out by saying, "What do you get
if you kill him?" He didn't pay attention
to how big he was. "What do you get if
you kill him?" [Mark and Trina Hankins] Because
he's planning on killing him [Kenneth Copeland] He's
planning on killing him. I'm going to get... I'm going to get the girl,
I'm going to get the money. I'll kill him. I don't care how big he is. [Mark Hankins] And I'm going
to break the reproach off of the armies of God. [Trina Hankins] Wow. [Kenneth Copeland] What was the
reproach? Fear of an enemy and you have a covenant. [Mark Hankins] And
they had a covenant. And so David brought
up the covenant. [Kenneth Copeland] Yes he did. He brought that up. Listen, he was an Orthodox Jew. He knew what the 28
chapter Deuteronomy said. And he also knew
the 27th chapter. And if you have any trouble
knowing why the curse and the blessing's in the same
chapter just need to read 27 and it'll tell you. - So it brings a reproach, if you know your God and
you're afraid of the enemy. So to know what God has spoken
in His Word about healing, about being redeemed from
the curse of the law, and to be afraid of the
Coronavirus or whatever. That's a reproach. [Kenneth Copeland] It's a shame. [Trina Hankins] It's a shame. [Kenneth Copeland] Reproach
means to shame. [Mark Hankins] So you got a
giant that is intimidating you. [Kenneth Copeland] He's
shaming that whole crowd. And there are different
kinds of giants. And everybody's got one that
you're going to have to kill. And so that giant
standing before David, and first thing
David brought up is, "You uncircumcised Philistine. I got a covenant. You don't." That's
the issue here. [Trina Hankins] That's
the bottom line. [Kenneth Copeland] And David,
he knew the Word that said, "No man will be able to stand
before you all the days of
your life" [Mark Hankins] I want to
bring something else into this. Here's David 17,
18, 19 years old. We know he's less than 20. Or he had been in the army
with the rest of them. Now I'm referring to me. He wasn't, twenty-five
30 pounds overweight. He took care of himself. Worked hard. He followed the
Levitical law of food. [Mark Hankins] He was prepared. [Kenneth Copeland]
He was prepared. [Mark Hankins] In every way. [Kenneth Copeland] In every way
before he ever faced that giant. Now think about this,
who made David king? Goliath. - Oh, I got you. All right. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. So you're the giant you kill. [Trina Hankins] The evil. [Kenneth Copeland] That's it. And it has to be done by faith. I had said it for
years, I hated exercise. I didn't want to do it. Now I was always overweight and
had starved down and getting... just break me down. Because I wouldn't exercise. I didn't like, I
didn't want to do it. And finally, the Lord
dealt with me about, about living at 120 years. And He asked me to do it. And I said, "Well, of course
I'll do it." I mean, it's a mandate to me. And I knew right then I'm going
to have to get that exercise. [Mark Hankins] Now what you're
saying is the spirit of faith works in every
area of your life. [Kenneth Copeland] Yes. So does the spirit of fear. I had said how I hate exercise
over and over and over. And my first day in there I'm
telling you, I'm all excited. I'm telling you,
I've got this thing. I'm going to do this
thing, glory to God. Then I was going to do
some triceps, pulls down
on the A-frame and I reached up there
and caught that. And I said, "God, I hate
this." And I slapped my hand. I said it before I
could get it to stop it. I said it to the
God in my heart. And it was controlling my life. And I said to God, "I'll
do it, I love this." Guys I physically felt that
devil leave my body. [Kenneth Copeland] Wow, I
like that. [Mark Hankins] He
fed me with that. I fed it to him so long. He had every right
to do me that way. [Trina Hankins] And I believe
somebody is getting this today. [Kenneth Copeland] Yeah.
Very practical. [Mark Hankins] Now this morning,
well, what are you going to do? I mean, you got to start
early, and my call time's 10 and all that. Well, surely you're
going to take off today. No, no, just start
a little earlier. I had a good strong
workout this morning. And the only half of
it on the treadmill, but now I'm not just
walking on the treadmill, I've gotten an incline
and now my dream that I never thought I
would ever see come to pass, is the fact that on
the DEXA scan machine, that my fat percentage,
my body fat percentage, right in there where
it's supposed to be. And I'm 84 years old. - Oh, that's a miracle. [Trina Hankins] You're blazing
the trail for a generation. [Mark Hankins] Yeah. - Well I hope so. [Trina Hankins] Oh you are. - Because otherwise I don't
have any purpose doing that. But to do what God's
called you to do. Now, I have a mandate
to live that long. You do what you want to do. But I'll tell you
what you have to do. Believe this book. Those food laws, the law of
first mention in the Bible, then that holds true all
the way through the Bible. And Genesis 6:3 that's
best as close as you
get. "I'm not going to put up
with man as long as I
have been, and the days of man
should be 120
years." - So what you're saying is your believing in speaking affects every area of your life. - Every area of life. - I was on my elliptical
machine one time watching you on the
TV program. And so I'm exercising
and you came over there. This is funny, but you might not
think it's funny, but you said, "And I want you to
confess this after me. I'm never eat another donut,
the rest of my life." (laughs) And I just couldn't
say it brother. Here's what I said,
"The rest of the week. How about that?" But what you're saying is that
your believing in speaking, that affects every facet of
your life, your finances, your health, everything. - Every bit of it has
to come here, so that those food laws
are based on that 120. So when you, you follow
all the way down through, the 91st Psalm, "With
long life, will I
satisfy him." That's based on
120 years. - And not long, bad life,
quality life. - Quality life. So it just tracks all the way
through, but without faith. Now you could in the natural. So what if you lived to 120
years, and hadn't done anything? But if you live 120 years to
preach the Word of Faith... Now people, don't
misunderstand me now. Anybody lives 120 years my
hats off to you brother. But, and people give
God the credit for it. And I love it, man. I mean, you live to be a hundred
and, hey, that's big news, that's good news. But for a specific purpose, now
your specific purpose may be... And you may be
in the car business, and that's your
specific purpose. You need to do that by faith. You need to do everything you
do in that dealership by faith. And you need to walk in love. And sometimes it's a bit
difficult in a natural business. [Mark Hankins] A
challenge, yeah. [Kenneth Copeland] But you
better watch your mouth. Let me give you a little story. This won't take a second. I was just in the very
beginning of my flight training and trying to my best, and I won't go into all that. But anyway, I was over
in Camden, Arkansas, and that's where I met Gloria. Changed my life forever. Nobody had ever loved me
unconditionally until I met her. And anyway, it was
time for me to move on. Well, I'd been using
the airport car there where I was working in Camden. Now I've got to go on to Little
Rock to finish up my training and I don't have a car. I went down to the
Chevrolet dealership. Now I didn't know, I'm going to
tell you this ahead of time, because of time, I didn't know
that this man was president of the local Full Gospel
Businessmen' Fellowship. I found that out years later. I walked in there. I said, "Sir, I really know
better than to do this, but I don't have any choice."
Told him what my name was. And I said, "I don't
have any money. I don't have but $135. Well, I'm on foot
and I have to have a car." And here's what he said, "Kenneth, will you
trust me in this?" I thought, "I don't have
any choice." I said, "Yes sir." So we got in his
pickup and we drove past the used lot, past the
garage where they worked on used
cars around behind that set the ugliest 54 Chevrolet
I have ever seen in my life. That had been yellow and
chartreuse green on top. And it looked like it
had leprosy. Every hubcap was bent and
some of them were gone. And the headliner
hanging down in the back. Now, this is a faith man,
he didn't know where I
would wind up and I didn't know; I'm just this kid
learning how to fly. And I looked at that car. He said, "Kenneth, I traded
for this thing." And he said, "I'm no more than
got it traded for." And then the transmission went
out on it. So I had to overhaul the
transmission. Then the engine blew
up and he said, "I can't sell that thing with
the engine blown up." He said, "I'll overhaul the engine and then I'll put four
new tires on it." Run, that thing ran like a
Singer Sewing Machine. It just looked bad. But my point is, here's a
car dealer following the
Spirit of God. I had to have a car and
it had to be trustworthy. And I wish had I kept that car. Because I'm telling you
that little rascal run. I did run down the highway like
I just didn't want anybody to see me in it. (laughs) [Mark Hankins] I actually
used to have a 54 and a 55. [Kenneth Copeland] But this Holy
Ghost man heard in his spirit what to do with this
kid that needed a car. And somehow he fell
in love with me. And the question
he said, "Kenneth, will you trust me in this?" He used spirit language. I didn't know it at the time. I wasn't even saved at the time. But my mama was praying. The Spirit of God was
watching after me. And this man was living
with a spirit of faith. [Mark Hankins] Just
the spirit of faith. [Kenneth Copeland]
Spirit of faith. [Mark Hankins] And when David,
when he killed Goliath, now all the men was ready
to fight. Before that, no. [Kenneth Copeland] David
became the leader that he was the
rest of his life. How much time we got to? Verse 43, "The
Philistines
said..." the devil knows
he's got to say
it. The Philistine said, "Am I a
dog that you'd come to me with
staves? The Philistine
cursed David by
his gods. The Philistine said
to David, "Come to
me, I'll give your flesh
to the fowls of the
air and the beast of the
field." Famous last
words. That's the last word
he ever said in his
life. And David
said to the
Philistine, "You come to me with a sword
and a spear and with a
shield. I come to you in the
name of the Lord of
hosts. The Lord of Sabaoth, the Lord of the
angelic armies of God. I mean, there were angels
all over that place. We're going to kill this We're going to
get him right now. That stone is going to hit
him smooth between the eyes, like a 357. And you look at other
translations, "He fell-- [Mark Hankins] On his face. [Kenneth Copeland] ...and then
he took his sword out and cut his head off." Well,
which one killed him? The rock or the stone. But it said both of them. No, no. It actually says, "He hit
him with that rock and he finished him off
with the sword." [Mark Hankins] Oh, wow. Yeah. [Kenneth Copeland] You can
finish the devil off taking the sword of the spirit. [Mark Hankins] I'm glad he
didn't say nothing else
after that. (laughs) - So David's saying-- [Trina Hankins] He
finished him talking. - Then the Lord says, never run into your giant
with your mouth shut. [Trina Hankins] Shut him up. - So, before he ran, he's talking and he's
speaking the Word. His covenant is talking. And while he's talking and then
when he hit him in the head, cut off his head,
took that head back. He couldn't turn loose of it. Somebody said that David showed
you how to get ahead in life. So he got that guy's head and
he's dragging that head around. - And you know that thing must
have been big as basketball. And he's got it
up here like this. I mean he's got teeth,
hair and eyeballs. But what happened? That was the flag. [Trina Hankins] As the trophy. - That was the flag. I got it, now come on. Man if that bunch up,
where did they wind up? In Goliath's hometown. - Oh man. That's right. - Brought reproach to
that whole city. Shamed them. They fell down. When he had that giant's
head in his hand. And he took his
prize to Jerusalem. And then he took his armor,
and he's just a teenage boy, and he put it in his room. (laughs) He took this guy's armor, he
took this guy's suit of armor and put it
in his tent. He's just a kid. [Mark Hankins] I
love it. I love it. What a great story and a
picture of the spirit of faith. And this is when Jesus
said this, He said, "Whosoever shall say."
In other words, it don't make David special. Anybody could have done that. [Trina Hankins] At any age. - "Whosoever shall say he shall
have whatsoever he saith." And Jesus talking about
talking to a mountain commanding the mountain to be
removed and cast into the sea. And so the Lord said to me,
"When you say that mountain not only will it be
going into the sea, that means it's
not coming back." - And you can't see it. - And that means there'll be no
evidence it was ever there. So when Trina had a brain
tumor, 30 years ago, we took the Word of
God, Mark 11:23 and spoke to that
brain tumor, 30
years ago. And that thing
disappeared and
hadn't come back
in 30 years. - And you could have
been born again. Holy spirit-baptized,
speaking with other tongues, believe in healing with all your
heart and that thing kill her. - That's right. Because until you use, here's
the way the Lord said to me, "The authority of the believer
is not just available, it is necessary. And He said, "And your faith
may not prevent all mountains, but it will move all mountains." ♪ ANNOUNCER: We hope you enjoyed
today's teaching from Kenneth Copeland Ministries, and
remember Jesus is Lord.
