The Manipulation Of Mini Ladd - A History Of Lies | TRO

[Music] hello ladies and gentlemen and welcome to the right opinion the home of a with too much free time and the past it's a strange thing and one that in times like these we probably long for more than ever although i do relate to this sentiment more than you can possibly know i likely wouldn't take anyone other than the person that i am today minus the chronic health issues of course yes if we could transpose the current version of ourselves to past scenarios and that's the choice that many would probably take it would likely save me and others from unnecessary disputes and distress however at the same time without many of those past scenarios we probably wouldn't be where we are today in many ways it's a paradoxical conundrum and the best you can do is be thankful for your present wisdom as internet dwellers we tend not to talk about our possibly tainted backstories too much because other people have a nature to be quite judgmental and if that's not who we are today then what right do people really have to know however it's almost always important we keep the past in mind because if not we may be destined to repeat it and for many people that's the last thing that we want with that said there are some who will repeat it regardless whether they know it's wrong or not and those individuals well we may have to be a bit more vocal in how we reprimand them this is especially true if those individuals hold a relative amount of influence as say i don't know a youtuber with dedicated fans probably serving as a role model for a fair proportion of them what about when said drama involves your followers well then let's discuss today's topic dude this movie is amazing got these 3d special effects look how realistic it is man yeah exactly when does eddie murphy show up that's all i want to know he shows up right now [Laughter] gamers unite yes once more we are heading back to that corner of youtube to set the backdrop for today's discourse and we'll begin by talking about one of the titans of the gaming community thanos i was born in the darkness by it i didn't see the light until i was already a man and by then [Applause] come on babe fight me like a man combo breaker oh no oh also known as vanossgaming is a creator who posts montage style content of him and his friends playing a variety of video games on paper it sounds fairly unexceptional but the editing and interplay between fong and his comrades has garnered widespread attention from viewers establishing his channel as a cornerstone in the youtube gaming subculture that has flourished in the past decade on his channel he would feature a retinue of creators who would aid that back and forth energy that void his content this roster would evolve over the years but one individual who became a pretty regular fixture on the channel during the mid-2010s was a gentleman by the name of mini lads we must save we have to save him we are going to save you yeah thank god but first what let's play with this new batmobile tour oh yeah yeah yeah yeah craig thompson aka minilad is a british creator who like many others from his era amassed success through videos where he indulged his gamer tendencies he set up his channel in 2011 while still in school uploading mostly gameplay footage he quickly made inroads into the gaming community even being featured as the game of the week in i has cup quake's discontinued series nonetheless it would be a couple years before he would achieve any significant prosperity with ratings being to pick up at the turn of 2013 after which point his channel rarely lost momentum in this time mini lad also became rather involved in vanus gaming's banana bus squad named after a vehicle in grand theft auto 5. this was mostly composed of vanoss's inner circle of collaborators including many other prominent creators such as h2o delirious moose knuckle louis caliber and i am wildcats with such an entourage there was little doubt that craig was certainly amongst the stars and like many of his colleagues his growth came quickly and substantially as he passed each million milestone with increasing finesse it appeared that he had mastered his niche what niche is that well to be honest i'm not entirely sure when looking at what people enjoyed about mini lad's content i wasn't met with an overwhelming deluge of answers he was sufficiently inoffensive decent at the games themselves and did conceive some very original ideas but most of his accomplishment appeared to be based on intelligent networking and a persistent upload schedule in an era where some creators do seem a little stale in hindsight there's too much italian in here it's fine it's fine keep your eyes on the sky i don't need to keep your eyes on the sky i'm not on my mustache now this isn't to his discredit in many ways vanossgaming was the archetype of an extremely effective business model and the fact that other people wanted to recreate it made complete sense and like many of his colleagues mini lad represented a click of youtubers that intelligently generated cyclical views through association and collaboration which overall has worked out quite well for them whereas many gamers from that era may have fallen from their distinguished pinnacles a multitude of creators involved with these squads have managed to retain a consistent viewer base even if it's not quite what it used to be hell in 2017 minilad had won the best years on his channel capitalizing on the pivot to face gammon reaction based content likely acquiring a fair few new subscribers in the process i never want to lose that connection with you guys if you know what i mean and with that i mean i want to be able to like give back to in a way and that's why i wanted all these conventions to meet you guys and i want to do as many signings as possible and i want to meet you guys and spend the most amount of time with everyone and i don't know i'll forever be thankful for everything you love to gave me uh it's just life is a crazy ride although minnie lads personality may not have been the most distinct he was still held in high esteem by many within the community most notably for the numerous charity drives he had hosted for many in a time where power seemed so prone to being abused it was refreshing that there were still people like minnielad out there using their influence for the good of the world he was a board member on the interestingly named first project an organization focused on delivering clean water to deprive communities also raising 150 000 over the space of two streams in 2018 very admirable indeed nevertheless it seems that craig here still had a few steps to take to truly define himself as an individual creator these steps were mostly taken in 2018 with his distancing from vanoss gaming a couple years prior the launch of his personal vlog channel and undertaking more ambitious ventures it looked like thompson wanted to alter his trajectory and be the master of his own destiny as a creator he had the capacity to stand on his own two feet and no one who was going to impede this no one other than himself of course but what was the chance of that happening i think we were all ready to see what the true mini lad was capable of he is so good at manipulation it is terrifying it is so scary but there were a few complications and what one may have hoped to be a new beginning gradually manifested into a spiral back down one's past one that may not even be worthy of escape so my friends i invite you to join me on a voyage which has many uncomfortable yet unnecessary steps and i think we need to begin this endeavor as soon as we can let us go in the gaming sphere vanoss felt often like the root nexus and with the applied formula to accumulate viewers between creators an association was often formed when they thought of mini land that they thought of vanus it can't be a surprise with mini lad's numerous appearances on the channel in many ways it seemed to create an inalienable connection nonetheless minilad wanted to be his own creator but to what extent would he go to achieve this as apple mentioned one of the first moves that minilad took to delineate his route was leaving vanilla skating now in some senses this was unexceptional news he's not the first and he won't be the last to leave a channel that has a rotating ensemble he stopped appearing in their videos regularly around the turn of 2016 but still appeared friendly with many of their members even releasing videos with them throughout the following year it was generally accepted at the time he had left for reasons that were related to how he viewed himself in regards to the channel he had spoken about this on twitter previously and seemed insecure on how some people perceived him as vanoss's friend rather than his own person however given how involved he had been there were obviously some who were going to be a bit taken aback not everyone was going to be aware of the assumed reasons and eventually questions began to arise as time passed he appeared to fraternize with his former brethren less and less and his distance grows so would the volume of questions with some even memeing those who were curious regarding miele's newfound independence now nobody was entitled to further explanation i'm sure there were many instances where someone had asked and thompson had chosen to ignore the eager inquisitor however on one fateful day in 2018 our mini friend felt compelled to clear up any ambiguity hanging over the outstanding situation the only thing i want to ask is how come you don't play with vinod gaming wow cause i don't play gmod anymore that's all he does question done also i'm also breaking off into a solo youtube because it's a lot more fun now gary's mod was a game that mini lad had found decent traction with back in the day but by this point it had been popular for a long time and although a lot of people still played it it was understandable you may be a bit burnt out on such a pastime now mini last statement was a hyperbole gmod isn't all they play but at the same time the implication was clear that they didn't share the same interests anymore this was certainly a surprise given the prior hypothesis and some may have found his tone a little hostile but that can equally be frustration or exhaustion at the continued questioning of a personal decision at the time minilad was one of a substantial number of people to distance themselves from banners gaming which had led some to theorize about the imminent decline of the channel with a few speculative claims here and there still no matter how close-knit the crew appears to be there have been some events that caused and are still causing its downfall so today we'll be looking into 10 reasons why the van oscar is potentially falling apart the foundation of the vanos crew was shaken when craig thompson aka minilad decided to stop playing with vanoss and dissociated himself from the crew there was really nothing to supplement people's theories here there had always been this slight tension between creators that have been picked up by observant fans but disagreements happen people can still be friends there was a bit of drama being stirred up and milad came forward to dispel those claims and affirm that he and vanoss were still friends and there was no bad blood between them with this in mind the case went cold and their bond at least seemed cordial but how long would that last for well let's fast forward to 2019 and mini lad was streaming as he often does once again he is side trapped by the fact that vanoss are still uploading gmod videos prompting him to go off on a bit of a rant with a tone of exasperation i also have no idea they're still playing gmod damn after all this time they're still playing gmod i mean they kick me out of all their chat so i have no idea what the hell they're doing so perfectly clear but okay maybe i'd be a bit bothered if i was kicked from a chat with a bunch of people who i thought were my friends it does seem a bit personal but mini then has a few clarifications to add just to clear up some uh i wasn't kick uh you they all they did was play fortnite in gmod and then talk to other youtubers so i said that uh i broke away from that group i'm doing my own thing i've never felt better i'm my community's stronger than ever i'm pulling more views than ever and i'm personally a lot more happy as a human so that's what happened anyways so he wasn't kicked in fact he left of his own court because he wasn't happy with the direction of the chats he decided to take a stand for himself and now he is thriving he's never been better and you can tell it's true because you have his word however many would have found it strange he was once more saying this after all this time had elapsed but this is what happens when distance grows between individuals more slanted perceptions arise from how you reflect on situations as opposed to how they happened with that said if mini lad only held fond memories with the vanoss crew it would be unlikely he would ever feel the need to malign them it once more seemed like the surfacing of previously latent resentment towards his former posse one that may have been around for longer than many assume in 2016 before any of this drama transpired a post was made titled some things you should know about minilad it's presented through the eyes of a follower of craig and the rest of the vanoss crew and recounts a conventional story where many appear to be exhibiting some pretty seething jaundice for his popular colleague the fan writes that not too long after the meet up they overhear mini land vocally tearing into vanoss for appearing late while also making further comments concerning his status including the claim that he didn't even like video games and didn't start playing them until call of duty 4 the absolute new this person obviously defends vanoss for a plethora of reasons and goes on to observe other instances where mini lad has decried an aspect of vanoss the banana bus squad or their dynamic they state that it seems to be a pattern of distaste that is displayed for the crew and that others should be cautious as to the reliability of what he says due to the underlying animosity now this is just a personal account have it is aged rather well due to details we'll discuss in a bit so i doubt it was written with the intent to mislead and it would explain past and present behavior pretty accurately so let's bring it back to 2019 and minnie's newfound groovin doing better than ever has clearly made him more outspoken that poor man's never gonna let that down poor bastard and to an extent it was true milad had really been more successful than where he was in april 2019. it seems his confidence had reached a point where he was ready to disconnect from the vanos crew altogether and this diatribe served as the severing blow however with his remarks mini lad by all intents and purposes ended any possible good faith between the two parties that may make him hesitant to speak out nonetheless this was just an aside comment what could tangibly follow from such an inconsequential statement why isn't craig in the server well trash talk doesn't go too far in the gaming community given that it's part of the culture in many ways now of course this isn't just in-game swordplay this was an individual pretty savagely laying into his former friends at the same time this was a comment on a stream not a formal upload loaded with serious allegations it wouldn't really warrant a belated response on its own basis besides minilad had made similar comments the year before and nothing had come of them drama between creators in a community that doesn't really have a desire for it is seldom beneficial for either party involved however just because it's not beneficial doesn't mean it's not going to happen if someone feels inclined to express themselves [Music] i think i'm in the wrong movie this is terrorizer or brian he's a creator who has played with banos and many of his associates but it's also in part known for his voice impressions which range from celebrities such as arnold schwarzenegger to composite characters like asian guy a banos favorite i'm sure but i digress he had previously collaborated with minilad on videos appearing to be on friendly terms with craig up until 2018 when like many others associated with vanoss he stopped appearing on the minilad channel now minilab wasn't the only individual questioned over the ostensible disintegration of the relationship between two parties but until june he had been the only person to really speak about it in a passionate way as noted many creators involved with vanna's strike one is rather drama averse this is not the first time conflict has arisen between one of their colleagues i'm sure it won't be the last but few had sought to leave their input up until that point likely knowing the risk of unnecessary quarrels someone like vanoss known to be quite withdrawn from public life would certainly not be compelled to defend himself however in one dune stream facing questions once again from eager fans terrorizer made the decision that actually he wasn't going to hold back his feelings any longer why isn't craig in the server because he doesn't play with us anymore he went off and left us and then started badmouthing us so he doesn't play with us anymore he can't have it every way so we play with people who are who have not left our chat we have a chat he left us and he doesn't want to play with us that's a question for him not us now his comments don't exactly contradict those by mini lad however his tone and phrasing demonstrate a clear disdain for what minnie had purported in his stream however as i'm sure he was aware such a comment would not quell many supporters angst and would almost certainly lead to more questions than answers given the now noticeable tension between the two people's curiosity persisted and in august 2019 when asked again terrorizer resolved to elaborate on his previously expressed sentiments however they didn't appear to be any more affectionate why not invite minnie i'll tell you why he doesn't play with us he left and then he decided on stream to badmouth me myself and my friends well mainly just my friends and i didn't appreciate that so i don't play with the guy lately because he's going on his meme streams talking about us it's not cool so that's why in spite of this however it seems that terrorizer didn't want to talk about it much further declaring that he didn't want to stoop to craig's level i think he said someone else in that about our girlfriends which kind of thing is a bit of a cop out uh well i i don't i like it's it's it's not a fair conversation to have when another person is not here you know you guys come to me i could give you a very biased opinion so uh he he went he he's went off and he said some things on his live stream which really kind of annoy me about a better group of friends and stuff and i'm just like i don't know just i i wouldn't imagine i don't like i don't like people doing that he said some stuff and i i don't want to resort to start saying stuff in my live stream about stuff um so with respect to you guys i'm not going to do that but um yeah i don't i don't want to go into it man honestly no disrespect to you guys but it's none of your business now honestly i do not know what level i'd class grace comments as they're nothing too defamatory but i suppose is the person who made allegations about the nature of banos and friends there was still a bar set and at that point terrorizer hadn't really done anything other than present his own version of events and chose not to take it further which is fair enough but unfortunately mini lad had other plans yes on august the 29th of 2019 craig released a statement to twitter with the intent to clear the air however this post doesn't exactly tell the story that we've seen so far he starts off by announcing the intent of this post that being to address the rumors that he hates everyone he used to play with but clearly turns his attention to the visible friction between him and terrorizer craig explains that this was in part because at the 2018 e3 convention brian made disparaging remarks regarding mini's mental health and then reinforced his comments in spite of milan's discernible anguish since he had not apologized mini lad no longer considered them on friendly terms however craig goes one step further alleging that terrorizer had been disseminating misinformation on his dreams about how minilad was now at odds with much of the banner's fleet he rebukes this and provides anecdotal evidence which contradicts this narrative and affirms that he is still awful with evan and many others who are active on his channel although minnie is unhappy at having to publish his thoughts on the matter he knows that people will be better off for being aware of this and still wishes the best for brian on his endeavors with this he signs off a testament to minnie's class and maturity i'm sure we can all agree but wait wasn't there something we missed all they did was play fortnite in gmod and then talk about other youtubers so i said that ah yes mini lad omitted some pretty essential details which are necessary to understanding how the situation precipitated that being he was the person who chastised vanoss in his own streams with his comments implying that they were at best elitist and at worst rather petty for him to suddenly frame brian as the instigator as if he had attacked many unprovoked is dishonest and pretty slimy on his behalf particularly given how it could have affected terrorizes friendships with the banner circle i also found it interesting how mini lad was more comfortable referring to banos as a collective now that he was no longer part of the channel minor observations aside why would he frame it in such a way now of course the obvious answer would be to shield his image however as a seasoned creator he must have been aware of the ramifications when people found out that he had twisted much of the information right well not entirely because at the time there wasn't really much of a clear record of what had been said and minilad could have easily just passed the responsibility of rumors onto viewers who presented him with a one-sided portrait now in due course a compilation of minnie's comments would be uploaded to one place chronicling the saga in rather clinical fashion but until then although the evidence could be unearthed in certain places on youtube it was often overrun by minilad's rather smart tone the reasonable voice he knew that many people wouldn't want to pick a side so in spite of the gross misrepresentations many felt sympathetic to him and his point of view seeing his reason tone as an indicator of good faith on top of this many felt that his reasons for distancing himself from terrorizer were valid after all it's just not right that someone makes such comments about mental adversity pertaining to another person's life and as a long-term advocate for mental health it was understandable that many would take offense to that especially if brian hadn't subsequently brushed on his position but was this the full story either [Music] with the flaws in malad's statement terrorizer was quick to respond on his twitter account firstly quote tweeting it with his own retort expressing discontent at many of minnie's aforementioned misrepresentations while also drawing attention to craig's recollection of comments brian had made towards him asserting that our gamer friend's portrayal was pure slander minnie responded shortly after stating that it was a near-quote once again affirming it was the reason that he stopped speaking to terrorizer he then says that if brian wishes to resolve it then they can talk over dms after all we wouldn't want a spat in public for all the fans to see however brian once more calls minnie out on this observing the hypocrisy of making a call-out post accessible to the community before requesting the discretion that he couldn't previously provide his former friend then in quite a surprising twist another one the vanilla's crew decided to impart their thoughts on the matter you know that group that mini lag claims to be on such good terms with well it seems that dahi de nocle was not ecstatic about minnie's behavior and in a reply also called craig out on his double standards contending that if he wants to talk it out in private then he should delete his tweets a fairly valid point minnie responds that brian's point of view is already on youtube and people deserve to hear his side as well dahi then responds requesting this evidence and unfortunately as minnie has deleted his tweets i'm unsure of whether he ever obliged and subsequently provided but whether he did or not it wouldn't have changed the fact that minnie had instigated this long before dahi and others were picking up on this and applying a reasonable amount of pressure to good old mr ladd over here a lot of fans however were clearly upset and disappointed that two people who they both greatly admired were squabbling on their timeline and in these situations the easiest way to yield a resolution is to take it to the dms and many advised them to do so a lot of the audience did not want to pick size and i empathize with that greatly as a fan i would be upset as well however this wasn't a case of differing perspectives this was a situation where one person had greatly misrepresented another and although i tend to use words like slander a bit more carefully it was still a very smarmy post that morally postures a fabricated position embedding itself in subtly self-aggrandizing narratives to distract from its actual lack of content one of those being the narrative of mental health a topic so close to mini lad's heart now if minnie was as concerned about mental health as he claimed to be he'd be aware of how such a post could affect another individual their fan base and their working relationships and as we'll find out later he does know exactly how it operates now if he was genuinely under the impression that terrorizer had said everything he had claimed to unprovoked then maybe maybe it would have justified a response but it's very hard to circumvent the fact that minnie started this world before and there was no way he could not have been aware of that terrorizer was clearly upset at these claims and subsequently published a very comprehensive twitter longer responding to craig's initial assertions some of the post explains his position in a way that we would expect it to framing his comments as a reaction to minnie's in-stream over-predictor this is all fairly unextraordinary we know what transpired here however one question mark still lingered over the nature of their run-in at the convention the year before the one where minilad alleges that brian had made rather deprecating comments towards his mental state terrorize wholeheartedly repudiates this though not just rejecting the idea that he had hectored craig but recalling the times that he had supported minnie in his mental hardship he expands on why he hadn't responded to minnie's messages regarding them as mostly inconsiderate attempts to elicit an apology he talks about the quote mini subsequent backtracking and the hypocrisy of craig's expectation of private resolution after making it public himself stuff we've also discussed but having terrorized his testimony backed up with the corresponding evidence only further entrenched the idea that miniland had purposely distorted the circumstances surrounding their ongoing conflict however on top of this it implicated minnie as not merely insensitive to much of what he claimed to hold dear but as weaponizing it in an attempt to damage the reputation of someone he had bad blood with it was rather tasteless behavior and whether his fans were on his side or not he had likely shot himself in the foot with many of his colleagues and collaborators who would evaluate the happenings with a more critical eye the whole situation is kind of sad to be honest and terrorize himself was clearly troubled by the disputes you know i'm just trying to you know have fun play video games and do stuff and then to have someone that you thought was a friend to like try and get themselves out of situation you know try and put that label on you is minnie would later claim the drama had been patched up in another video i got to finally meet up with brian we're figuring things out you know we talked backstage evan's show and we shook hands we're gonna work on it so like you know i miss the dude and it's good to see things coming together however brian denied this and stated that he felt craig had made these comments to appease audience members who may feel uneasy about the incident i know he made a video saying we're patching things up which is not true um i feel like he says things in order to kind of get flak off of his back hence why he threw me under a bus in order to you know get him out get himself out of a situation that was happening with a trending video it's a strangely deceptive practice on his part and although he would eventually release a semi-apology his handling of the situation even in representing the reconciliation seems surprisingly insincere mental wellbeing is an important part of everyone's lives i don't think i can emphasize that enough we are often taught to do what's best for ourselves which although true may not always mean what a person thinks it means milad has spoken profusely about the topic of mental health and the challenge that it regularly posed to him he had made multiple posts alluding to it and raised money for charities that operated in the field but this behavior seemed to not just discard but abuse these principles begging the question did mental health really matter to him or was it just a vehicle to help him further his status and was this behavior even exclusive to the subject of mental health it's all good to try and fix something in dms and then it just lead then what about the people who still think i make fun of mental health and don't care and i did that too it's not going to go publicly and say hey actually look you know maybe i was wrong or something no so that's that situation that sucks well we would soon find out [Music] in the following months minnie would continue his charitable endeavors and selfless ventures winning plaudits and even awards from across the board but you wouldn't be blamed if you've been left with a slightly sour taste in your mouth from what we'd just discussed however at the end of the day it was one drama and regardless of what can be said about mini last demeanor under those conditions you couldn't use it to define his legacy no you'd need something much more substantial for that and after such a skirmish mr thompson would probably want to stay as far away from drama as possible but maybe his fate had already been sealed the past is a funny thing time may age it in the mind of some but in the internet era its significance is often only as relevant as the awareness of his existence therefore when you acknowledge it you are in effect making the past the present this principle is what has yielded for example the contentious cancel culture because although individuals involved may progress past the instant when it's uncovered many feel inclined to judge it in the current context of today's ecosystem which can often be starkly different to the environment that prevailed all those years ago however some actions have always been wrong and will likely continue to be wrong for the rest of time as long as we can possibly conceive and the servicing of such allegations will often lead a creator to being held to account whether they would have preferred to leave it behind or not so let's bring it forward to the present year where like many other people our good friend milad had been struggling even taking a break at the start of the new decade hi in a minute at this time minilad had went through a rather tough breakup with his now ex-girlfriend sammy or suny day this became quite an emotional affair and led craig to take a hiatus from social media and uploading altogether there had been a relationship for approximately two and a half years so it was rational for him to be a little distraught over such misfortunes he published a tweet on the 4th of january informing people of their split before posting another a week later apologizing for the impulsivity of the former and any superfluous distress that it spawned amongst those close to him this is then followed by the hiatus lasting just over a month with a video posted on his main channel to celebrate his long awaited return and reflecting on the reasons behind this respite i struggle a lot with mental health issues um you know it's not some to just kind of brush aside it's something you take seriously otherwise it's gonna catch up with you and that's exactly what happened so i was on tour i was rushing videos out i was just putting up anything i could i wasn't proud of the videos i was putting up i was just take this yeah um and then i came back from tor and then sammy and i sammy and i broke up in the video he talks a lot about the developments in the previous months the most notable being the separation which he presents as difficult but amiable he also takes the time to clarify some of the uncertainty surrounding these circumstances of the breakup not that the audiences were entitled to know but it seemed to be a better option than letting people draw their own less lenient conclusions and perhaps voicing them as well i'm not gonna get into too much sammy has the dogs uh a lot of people were like oh give craig's the dog craig the dog's back it was a mutual decision for sammy to take the dogs so please don't bug her about anymore uh are we still friends yeah you know this is it was a you know as a clean breakup in the sense that we're we don't hate each other it's not like we're blocking each other or talking or whatever as long as these were details that the pair were happy with divulging then as uploads go it was a mature informative piece which handled the sensitivities of its subject with care and diplomacy and many paid in the due respect that such conduct would warrant while respecting his will to share as much as he felt comfortable sharing this was the right time to clear the air i'm excited for this year oh i i i can't tell you i can't um but just trust me this year is going to be amazing over the following months minnie returned to his regular upload schedule releasing the quality content that quenched his audience's desires however there was trouble on the horizon what did this trouble entail exactly well let's go back to the old 2016 tumblr post you know the one that recounted mini lads slightly less than professional behaviors with vanoss in the penultimate paragraph of the post while continuing to document evidence of minilad's strain relationship with the vanoss crew the author also observes that they had seen a pattern of craig mingling with younger and dare i set underage fans they say this isn't anything incriminating on its own but it's worth noting given the trend with that said this wasn't the first time that he had received a flak for his interaction with his fans in fact in january of 2016 minnie partook in an exchange with the infamous keemstar over comments he had made towards another twitter user in the dm this was during keem's internet crusade phase which led to a lot of allegations sometimes correct sometimes not so correct so people took what he was saying with a pinch of salt at some point after this keemstar deleted the tweets and nobody archived them so i didn't think i was going to find anything here however i am a tenacious man and i found some of the interactions alongside one tweet with the images in question and i must say they are something else given that once again this individual was alleged to be an underage fan i'll add alleged his behavior seems unbelievably inappropriate framed through the lens of helping this person [Music] no no don't be sad you have nice boobs somehow he got off the hook here i think because people were preoccupied with other controversies such as lie maker keemstar himself ended up in a controversy after around the infamous r exploring gold story overshadowing many other situations at the time and minnie's dismissive responses clearly worked in subduing any public arousal and he lived to fight another day nonetheless it was clear that not everyone was ignorant to minnie's occasional improper fraternization with younger audience members and although these rumors ever nest in the years succeeding there was likely a suspicion that lingered within the pockets of the internet and come 2020 much of that misgiving would prove not entirely unfounded so let's bring back craig's ex suny day of whom minnie had a rather extensive relationship with in mid-june the mistreatment and harassment of female twitch streamers became a pretty prevalent discussion in many online circles and as a female twitch streamer and victim herself sammy decided to impart her insight on the matter completely acceptable however this alarm craig as from his perspective given their rich history many would assume that he was the person sunni was referring to unless he anxiously reached out requesting that his former partner clarify that he had not violated her in such a way sunni obliged but in turn adding the caveat this did not absolve him from other misdeeds that were present including lies and manipulation even sharing some dms which although do not say too much on their own certainly don't paint in the split as friendly and mutual as mini lad had communicated in his video yes in clearing up one ambiguity this tweet had revealed information that would inspire others to speak up with much more damaging implications so allow me to introduce you to two individuals this is halle and this is ash both of them were fans of mini and both have publicly confabulated with the youtube on numerous occasions ash until the end of 2017 and halle right up to 2020. the latter having consistently lent her support to craig in his online pursuits however it seems that their experience with the award-winning creator had a bit more background than one may expect and on june the 22nd following sammy's all revealing tweets both took to my favorite social media site to share their stories publishing by twitter longer again ash and haley lay out their less than stellar encounters with the creator alleging multiple counts of improper behavior with them not just as fans but as individuals who were not of age now this wasn't already the best look for our friend however it didn't stop there in fact it was barely the beginning and that's not good when you're already 11 pages into a script now these stories tell a tale we are all too familiar with on this channel presenting me lad as a person who burnt by the them recent collapse of another relationship turned his attention to those online to fill a void specifically those from within his fan base in this instance the implication is that he specifically targeted younger fans knowing their vulnerability and the power he held over them as a creator we can't provide too many specific dates but this appears to have transpired throughout 2016 mostly and around the time he was reported on the tumblr post to be socializing in many of these circles he's also allegedly used his power to bargain for explicit content which few would already condone but is particularly objectionable considering that hallie and ash were both around the age of 16 or 17 not being of legal standing to send such content in the first place however these are elementary testimonies and although it would be easy and justified to call minilad out for such debauchery something that i will have no qualm in doing i'd like to evaluate a few more details that would catch one's eye however to take this discussion forward or to even work from the premise of truth we'd need a bit of substantiation behind these claims but ash and harley were well equipped dropping screenshots of dms from multiple platforms covering various points in their contact with the gaming icon in their twitters both individuals appear quite convinced that minilad was consciously taking advantage of them for his own purpose now the word conscious there is pretty pivotal in the construction of that sentence minnie was not going to be treated gently with these revelations regardless but to be frank the actual evidence made him look even worse firstly we'll turn to ash who released a series of screenshots dating from around the time where much of this misconduct is said to have occurred this not just helps in corroborating much of their assertions but also many of the judgements minilad's behavior may merely be unbefitting in some such as his messages to the group chat but look beyond that and you'll see some pretty repulsive and manipulative behavior which clearly shows minnie's awareness of the rift in power between the two parties in question probably the worst conversation captured is this one where ash clearly shows reluctance to share explicit images understandably so and many begins to encourage her in the way that a mentor would one of their students you can do it i believe in you take the leap and send me nudes it is preposterous if someone doesn't feel comfortable you respect that boundary and as outlined in the twit longer this is not something that they would have done if it wasn't an individual with the clout that minilad has and to me it seems that minnie was quite aware of this it also doesn't help the mini holds what a person said when they were drunk over them as if it was some kind of ironclad pact he also guilt baits by saying that he's sad which is another thing i've never been a fan of in general because it shows a lack of consideration for how the other person may feel in certain circumstances i can understand how it could be read in banterous fashion but not when it deals with the exchange of such matter this is not mutual it's nasty coercive and shows a prioritization of personal gratification over respect for the other party's autonomy this is also supported by much of the individual testimony which focuses on how minilad regularly used his depression as means to acquire what he desired there's every trick in the book here and i want you to keep this in mind going forward not that it would be easy to forget there are multiple dm's on multiple platforms and messaging services with the individuals involved that support these claims involving both parties where minilad has sent and received explicit images alongside video verification confirming the accounts belonged to minilabs this was already compelling in a way though minilad's 2016 antics were only half the story because when word of his behavior began to make its way through these smaller communities many sought to suppress these testimonies including minilad himself employing a plethora of strategies highlighted in screenshots posted by halle in these images dating from the end of 2017 halle decides to confront many about ash and the nature of their relationship asking some exploratory questions to gauge their connection in his responses craig downplays any intimacy preventing inferences from being drawn regarding the content of their conversations however a few days later the tone of this discussion had shifted and minnie is pleading with hallie to prevent this information from being publicized my very line here is when he says that there was nothing more than a specific message before adding and maybe a bit more of similar just to cover himself in case there were some additional exchanges exposed who knows maybe there was i don't know how would minnie know he barely remembers who ash is halley frames a lot of this dialogue as manipulation on minnie's behalf and it's quite easy to see why with the threat of incriminating evidence being released he appeals to a lot of the consequences that he will face now his line of reasoning isn't incorrect here there will be significant ramifications if these details were to be dispersed and he has a right to be worried about that but it's an observation not an argument and it can't really be used as a point against the publication of such content hallie makes it clear that she's aware of the consequences and many reiterating again and again how awful it would be for him just seems to be an attempt to take advantage of the good faith that hallie shows him and the sympathy that she may feel for the remorse he expresses this is a technique that is applied on multiple occasions when discussing the issue a few days later minnie was caught in another lie when sent a screenshot from a snapchat conversation he admits that he is one of the participants but then proceeds to claim that ash had lied about her age that would be a decent rebuttal if it was the truth which it wasn't and a few days later hallie challenges minnie once more on this fact and this time he buckles admitting that he knew she was 17 but that he was really depressed and that he just thought if he was gonna end it there he was gonna go out in a blaze of glory with lewd snapchat dms wow real kamikaze mission there craig it was rather desperate stuff on minnie's part however mini lads wasn't the only person attempting to conceal his wrong doings in fact some of the mods from his discord server decided to take it upon themselves to defend their king's honor some adopting the there will be repercussions argument others claiming that he had changed both points of view espoused by mini lad himself i found a lot of these explanations quite embarrassing given the additional context with that said it was clearly effective as no one asked him publicly at that time and many clearly did believe that he deserved a second chance however that second chance was all used up by the time that sunni day had informed the internet that many lads antics were still prevalent throughout their relationship which is what inspired ash and halley to share their stories over the years he had continuously pledged to improve to seek help and as it became clear that he had merely used their pity to preserve his public image while not actively changing his ways their charity had diminished and this was the breaking point beyond that this was their ultimatum to craig and minilad could no longer postpone his judgment day [Music] both ash and hallie clearly had extremely unpleasant experiences with the creator at the center of this debacle but there's a real poignancy in particular to halley's testimony because it's clear that she wanted to believe that minnie had changed more than anyone else and that really the most frustrating facet to her were all the lies that followed the scenario which she had taken at face value she gave minnie an opportunity to improve she provided her support to his endeavors and he took advantage of it these were their stories to tell and they didn't tell them with the intent to destroy his career if they had felt minnie had changed his ways then i think they probably would have let him be however to them with the discovery that this behavior had been present in his most recent relationship even being instrumental to its demise it was more than ample evidence that his word could not be trusted with it out in the open mini lad would have to convince a much less sympathetic internet that he would rehabilitate himself a harder sell for sure and many who read the allegations didn't see a way back for many at all to them this was unforgivable and to be honest it's hard not to see it from that viewpoint when you look at how he manipulated those around him how could we trust what he says to anyone past this point if he can't even be honest with those closest to him well to be honest the only way would be if he had actually practiced what he preached and with the allegations garnering traction many had no other option but to address them releasing a statement accepting full responsibility for his actions and unreservedly apologizing for the hurt that he caused nonetheless that was the easy part it was going to be challenging for many to deny the allegations at this point given their substance and even from a strategic standpoint it was the sensible thing to do so a confession doesn't warrant too much kudos here what really mattered were the steps that he was going to take to make immense in hallie switlonger she said that she legitimately thinks craig is a good person and that she really just wants him to take ownership of his actions to seek help to stop running and lying to his audience the message was clear and in his response it seems that minnie was receptive to this committing to an indefinite hiatus and using that time to build back the trust of those he wronged now of course many were hesitant to bind to the sincerity of such a pledge and with valid reason but at the same time it was probably the best we were going to receive and if he could at least heal some of the wounds that he had inflicted to those in question then that would be progress many people adopted this perspective and wanted minnie to be better which is very merciful for the internet that i know so what would craig do with this time away how would he use it to win back the faith lost from many disillusioned followers and even friends hi how's it going hope you're doing good uh first thing you probably noticed is the background i'm back in my old studio well turns out his break lasted shorter than one might anticipate in fact it was on par with the post tour break he took at the start of the year and most of this intermission appeared to be occupied with relocating back to northern ireland which is also peculiar given that he'd already moved once at the start of 2020. however there was an explanation for this i went on this mental health journey i realized that there's a lot going on in the world and i know i just need to step away and i know i just needed to take care of myself uh my mental just took a turn for the worse and i know i needed to get back i needed to be around the ones who i love i wanted to work on myself my mental health journey i got myself into therapy for the last month uh and it's been incredible it really has this has been something i've been putting off for years because i want to make sure work was okay and i kept up at work and i just put myself on the back burner and i made me finally realized that i can't do that anymore but it's been nice reconnecting with my roots reconnecting with who i am where i grew up you know i moved to northern ireland when i was 10 9 10 years old from whenever i was living in singapore i came over here and this has been the place that i call home i know i just laughed all of a sudden but i just i i needed to do something about me right of course going back to his roots to clear his head this mental health break had clearly revitalized him and he was ready to start creating content again for his adoring audience wait didn't something happen oh right yeah he doesn't really talk about that like at all in fact we are met with a five-minute long slew of rhetoric about how important it is to take care of one's mental health that he's not perfect he needed the time out to work on those imperfections and that he's been improving himself with every passing day how inspiring like i said before i'm back in therapy and she has been incredible being able to spell everything onto her and might want to reconsider the wording on that one craig even though this is my first video back this doesn't mean that i'm going to just stop working on myself i i've come to realize that the journey of working on yourself isn't just i'll do it for a few months and i'll be all right it's it's a journey that never truly ends as humans there's no definitive amount of time that if you take this amount of time away and work on yourself you'll be okay again the reality is this is a journey that myself and all of us are just going to continue to go through life and you know i've come to the realization that i'm never no one is ever perfect people you can strive for perfection but as long as you know that no one is perfect and no one will ever be perfect the more you realize that the better you're gonna be in summary he completely avoids disclosing the reason why he took the hiatus in the first place and decides that his viewers are better off not knowing the break was already insultingly short for someone of his status he could have afforded to take much more time away from the platform that he had misused but even if we discount that the fact that he doesn't even have the humility to be honest with his own audience is more than enough evidence that he hadn't learned from his misconduct he also posted a similar statement to twitter which although was less offensive given the fact that his previous apology was also just alert for context still completely neglected to address any reparations that he had made for his misdeeds let alone the misties themselves it was shady as hell and almost implied that he had this expectation that it would just blow over if he didn't mention specifics i have receipts and i'm gonna show him again like maybe right here where he was talking to his moderators about how in my chat people are gonna see that this doesn't matter and it's gonna die just gonna he'll upload in a week it'll be fine nobody's gonna care you have to be some scumbag some scumbag with a high enough ego to think that people in your discord moderators who looked up to you are not gonna share those messages with me we're just gonna let that slide no well actually it seems that's exactly what he expected after chat logs were sent to halle in which he states that once people realize that the majority of people don't care or don't know and the brands continue to work with him it'll all blow over which is some high-grade arrogance on minnie's front much of this is revealed in a video uploaded by hallie which served in part as a response to sir ladlot's glorious return to youtube but also as means to provide her story across all platforms and to make sure it wasn't overshadowed by minnie's influence however there are more than enough new developments which only tarnish his image further some to astounding degrees she basically was told by craig to go to ash um one of the other girls who came out who dealt with way worse way worse um to tell her about his suicide attempt to make her feel some sort of pity and then was saying to me which you'll see now um just how if ash ever came up about this she would be killing she would be the person who's responsible for killing thousands of people because of if people found out who he was and fans who count on his videos found out about him they would kill themselves it is unbelievable the audacity of this man so many of his leaked dms didn't paint him as a person who wanted to know what he could do to atone for his actions but more what he would do if such evidence went public it doesn't reflect remorse or regret and halley's video once again showed how manipulative his hiatus and return had been yet this time around it wasn't even subtle he was basically seeing what he could get away with it was a sign of an inflated ego which judged his fans as too stupid to hold into account on top of this though it made his utilization of points surrounding mental health seem unbelievably contrived and brought into question whether he ever believed anything that he said about it i appreciate every damn content creator that came out and spoke and show like just came out and shared my story because he is getting away with this pretty easily his his viewers a lot of them do not know what's going on it's not their faults thanks to halley's response and other youtubers covering the situation publicity of mini's antics began to amplify it became quite clear that he wasn't going to distance himself from the instance like it hoped and he may have no other option but to talk about them but how would he with such damning receipts against him well let's find out how much of a massive ego can you have how much of a disgusting human being can you be just think you have a right on this platform with his first video back it was initially received decently by those within his committed fan base however with the limelight firmly on his transgressions the backlash began to augment into its own movement with his purpose to remove minnie from the platform altogether and to make him pay properly for what he had done his videos began to accumulate thousands of dislikes as well as critical comments ranging from disappointed devotees to outraged onlookers there was no way he could filter this out for mini lad i know you're not watching this but you're only gonna make yourself look worse and worse in the eyes of the youtube audience until you address what you did to youtube so that we can see that you'll admit to what you've done he would upload another regular video some 12 days later without any recognition towards the mounting pressure against him however this was met with even greater hostility from viewers than the previous release and was indicative that he wasn't simply going to be able to escape this without offering up some explanation so come september there was a new task on the mini lad agenda and that was to clear the air now he had done a similar thing with his upload addressing the separation with sami in hindsight that video was also flagrantly dishonest but at a time where people were none the wiser it served as a sufficient explanation for where he had been and the tribulations that he had faced during this period this time round the air was significantly murkier and there was a lot of seemingly conclusive evidence to confront that even the most eloquent of individuals would have difficulty excusing however with few other options minnie had to put his cards on the table but was he holding all the aces well no hey guys i want to talk about a lot of the stuff that's been going on online lately whether it's through youtube or twitter or places like that i've been reading a lot of your guys's comments as well and i wanted to formally address everything but as well as address everything i want to talk about a lot of the rumors that are out there and debunk some of them too the video is five minutes long which is already quite brief given the magnitude of the allegations against him okay sometimes there isn't too much to say but to be honest minilab doesn't really say much at all now that some time has passed and i've had time to reflect on everything and get a grand scope of everything that's been going on i wanted to set the record straight after this all came out i did make a statement on this over on my twitter but now i think it's the correct time to sit down and make a video addressing it he's quite sly in how he responds to the allegations instead of focusing on what may be true or not he turns his attention to what he believes is false and chooses to quote debunk those many of these claims not really constituting the essence of the case against him the first thing that i wanted to talk about with these allegations is i've never physically met them before nor have i physically abused anybody across the board i want to make people aware of that because those are serious allegations and i wanted to put those rumors to bed there are minor admissions here and there but in some capacities it could be seen as quite a devious play by our miniature man here he's very selective in what he responds to and although what he says may well be the truth in these specific circumstances it's hardly the full picture for example on the issue of leaked chat logs regarding some aspects of his hiatus some of my old twitch mods have been leaking and screenshotting messages that i put in the mod chat where i say that after two weeks that i gave up on therapy i wanted to say that this is untrue after two weeks i did stop going to a certain therapist because if you've been to therapy before that you'll know that some therapists just don't fit your needs so after two weeks i changed to a different therapist and that's someone who i've been going to see every single week since now once again this may be the case i do not know however this doesn't address the messages where mini lad appears to dismiss the influence of the accusations against him and judges the severity of them on the basis of the impact they'd have on his career the hilarious thing is that this video would only be approximately two and a half minutes long if he hadn't added an extra section where he tackles another claim on twitter which he asserts to be false this person is accusing me of a few things so i would like to go through each point individually and debunk them respectively the first one is a photo that has come out with me and the two other youtubers that are there where a picture of us holding her in the air has come out this is a photo taken during a meet and greet at the very end of the summer camp this is a situation where people are able to come in they're able to get a photo they're able to get one or two things signed and then they move on during this she said that i asked to pick her up for the photo she asked if myself and the other youtubers could hold her up for the photo so what she's saying here is untrue the second point she brings up is that i sat too close to her and her friends this part is quite confusing because everyone sat next to everyone else as a part of regular scheduled programming at no point was any of us unmonitored as myself the other youtubers that were there also the fans that were there but there were also adults there and counselors there monitoring everything so at no point during this entire summer camp was anybody unsupervised the third point they bring up is they claim that i call them cute and pretty this is completely fabricated and it did not say this this is untrue like i said in the previous point at all times during this camp we were surrounded by camp workers and counselors to ensure the safety of myself and ensure the safety of them and ensure the safety of everyone else at all times they could hear everything that i was saying so this could not have happened i cannot possibly comment on the verity of minnielats retort here because he has been shown at multiple times to have light at his convenience so denying an allegation which doesn't have any physical proof would practically be second nature to the man however the incident does give him one last chance to address his malfeasance with halle ash and many others as well the situation with the other two people that i said on twitter was a situation where my behavior was unacceptable and i understand that and i will continue to strive to do better a very mature reflection minnie you've really outdone yourself there cracking introspection in spite of this some people defending him on this point may say well minilad did address this in his twitter statement he does reference that as a whole here we can't expect him to just continuously bring up what he's already admitted to maybe this statement is meant to be on the new claims i could formulate many responses to such perspective however probably the most irrefutable one would point towards the fact that he has ignored all new claims that are harder to respond to such as the dismissive dms or the screenshots where he basically places the lives of his fans on those he has maltreated this is extremely selective and it doesn't clear the air whatsoever he's just added smoke and mirrors i outlined it in my original tweet back in june at the bottom saying that i will be working on myself and i will be attending therapy from now on on into the future and a lot of people deem that to be untrue but i want to be here on record saying that since then i have been going to therapy every single week and i will continue to go to therapy every single week the video also doesn't contain any evidence either it's just him smiling and asking you to trust him which people don't that should have been at least part of the reason that you made the video in the first place you need to restore people's faith in you and you can't do that if you provide people with no substantiation to your attestations he opens the video talking about transparency and setting the record straight but he fails to do so on every count this video underlines the main point that he failed to dispel the pattern of manipulative behavior that has been the driving force behind a lot of his worst offenses as a matter of fact it's pretty decisive evidence that his crooked propensities are alive and kicking and people were fast to identify that it's pretty obvious this video is just here to save his career i guess and in order to do that he has to not focus on the real problem and address things that aren't even real or just other allegations that just came out many creators and individuals involved were fast to call craig out on his maneuvers and inability to show growth in the situation it was a sign that he was prone to repeating this all over again this was exasperating and so many people were incensed that he could even use a video like this to once more try and find a way to evade confrontation speaking of evasions many were beginning to suspect he had other motives from moving back to northern ireland as well allegedly he is in texas now but it's hard to trust anyone's word at this point for me i've always wanted to use my platform for good i've always wanted to portray a positive message here and i know there's nothing i can say right now that will change your guys minds and that's okay but i hope looking forward to the future that whether it's in the coming weeks or the coming months or the coming years that what i say right now you can take it the truth regardless a lesson was being taught these situations would only escalate with every poorly made response you put out with more and more attention being brought towards its actions it was clear that craig was too ignorant or too fragile to actually properly confront what he'd done and people weren't just gonna let him off the hook by rhetorical inertia so what could minilad do under these circumstances as well this is where it becomes quite bizarre in certain situations there are no preferable options and as a person who had been caught in a series of half-truths and outright lies there was no panacea for many lads woes every option had a variety of drawbacks nonetheless after the deluge of ubiquitous condemnation following his clearing the air video the smart option would be to leave for a much longer spell and actually use that time to work on himself or at least pretend to he has a large subscriber base and although he had his monetizations complications here and there he's almost certainly made more than enough to live off i hope his family would be happy to support him alleviating these glaring infirmities and if he was actually receiving therapy then he could take the time out until those results began to show nevertheless he demonstrably had a deep connection to his youtube channel and wanted to upload again he wanted this behind him which wouldn't be possible if he committed to another break so another option would be to try his luck at addressing the allegations again this time in a more comprehensive manner it was unlikely to win too many over but it may curb some of the malays that had persisted throughout the situation however this would only work if he could make a somewhat coherent case for himself and with the abundance of evidence against him many were doubtful of his prospects at effectively justifying or even explaining the mentality behind much of his exploits so out of these two the first option did still seem more probable but little did we know there was an option c which although not impractical did seem rather foolish even to someone of minilad's present notoriety that option would be to resume an upload schedule like nothing had happened at all yet this was the option that mini exercised it's been 10 months since the last video i missed gaming that being said shall we yes only eight days after his cloning the air blunder he uploads a video called internet's craziest gaming glitches i'm not sure if the missed apostrophe is an oversight or a cry for help but to summarize in his video he reacts to the popular subreddit r game physics imparting priceless insight with his reactions to the titular forum this video appears to have been recorded while he was still in his previous accommodation and there seems to be a planned release but regardless of when it was made the mini lad flare was shining through okay go on big brain huge brain that is 4 000 iq they bring care packages out on drones bro future crazy i'm so glad that minnie has continued uploading aren't you what would we ever do with content like this though i do sometimes wonder if he was inserting subliminal messages within his text i was growing up whenever i was in school i was always so afraid like adulthood seemed so scary like even like the year above you you're like the older ones god has forsaken you i am a mere squire compared to the year above and then you think of people when they're like 21 you're like oh they have their life together they're gonna have their own 401k pensions they're gonna have a wife and kids and then you get there and you realize that the world has no idea what's going on 95 of the time as a guy who's 25 years old right now not a clue just remember that going forth in life you're going to take away anything from this video take away this no one has a clue now as many lad videos go this was nothing particularly different from the routine content that many would have expected from his channel but there was definitely an element of it which seemed strained given the state of affairs either mini didn't actually care for the charges levied against him or he's contriving a persona to try and cover up the fact that it bothers him both of these rationalizations imply that the happy-go-lucky attitude is a pretext for a very cynical ploy to ride out the stigma he was facing this philosophy was exhibited in the leaked dms people forget and move on that's what he's hoping when the critics forget you'll be left with your dedicated audience who are much more interested in your output rather than the actual moral conundrum of viewing someone of that character and who would want to miss out on the premium laughs like those supplied by many that me i'm an adult i need to confront my responsibilities also me [Music] with that said his plan didn't quite work out as intended his reddit reaction video broke even between likes and dislikes and future uploads didn't fare much better his next offering was a let's play a flight simulator which although producing no exceptional in-game moments did stimulate some pretty hilarious comments the sword that mini lad would react to though he hasn't yet good idea craig write that one down that aside his ratio was much worse on this video with the likes more than halving and the dislikes actually increasing on the previous upload his next video didn't show signs of improvement either although he did secure a sponsorship for it it was your job to bring the speaker you go to your car and you realize the speaker is dead what are you going to do your friends are never going to trust you again you're never going to get invited out anywhere again your life is going to come spiraling down jimmy with a brand new cove commuter 2 you'll never have to worry about that again with its amazing 7 hour battery life a subwoofer on both ends to play bangers with volume like this what's a molly i don't know what he's saying what more do you need however once people made his partner's cove aware of mini lad's capers the video was removed on the company's request i almost want to give points for the sheer goal of finding a sponsor to work with in spite of knowing the inevitable backlash the business would face but i won't because it's mini lad a mini lad deserves nilpoi it seems that with every attempt that mini made to elude the critical masses it merely invigorated them more predominantly because people saw it for what it was and they weren't going to forget it just because mini lad wanted them to this ladies and gentlemen is a mistake every video since followed a similar trend with users flooding his comments his ratings on every conceivable route that may allow many back into the mainstream youtube also took it upon themselves to punish him as well revoking his adsense partnership thus preventing him from generating revenue via commercials the videos themselves are pretty mediocre the thumbnails make me feel like i'm living in some dystopian nightmare the shark in this one looks about as fed up as craig as most people are in his newest video at the time of writing which will be a long time ago at this point the hot chip one the video literally opens with comic sans and once again not sure if to read that as a cry for help but mini lab was the only one who could make that move i wasn't sure how many videos it was going to take for minnie to realize that the internet denizens weren't letting this one go and that he's actually suffered far more by putting on this scene but it was rather awkward and embarrassing for anyone who's aware of the situation especially former fans to watch this man who was once respected reduced to an outcast who literally eat hot chip and lie with every upload he besmirched his reputation further and obscured his road to redemption at first it seemed to be a calculated move to temper the odium towards him but at a certain point it just seemed to be a desperate default to familiarity because he couldn't think of anything else everything that we once knew is now gone it's tragic for all involved many of whom just want closure above all but have to watch this man dance on the grave of his legacy because he's too proud to actually face down his actions but unfortunately we can't be overly surprised at this it's been something present for longer than many have probably considered who i am anymore who am i who are you where am i i'm gonna go i'm gonna go crying to some ben and jerry's i think that's that's the play ben and jerry's fish food slab yep i'm gonna just subscribe okay just do that for me just the little red button down below just the little like button however eventually after numerous further failed attempts to shirk the situation at hand he had a sudden change of hearts hey guys this video has been a long time coming and this is something i've been wanting to talk about for a while but and we finally had something to seriously discuss the original plan was to release this video at the end of december as a way to depict mini lad's continuous failure to move past this controversy however before i could release it our friend craig decided to defy expectations dropping a video where he appears to tackle the allegations head-on i don't want this video to be excused as an excuse or victimizing myself or anything like that i just want to give you guys my thoughts this is no more no more pr teams no more anything like that this is just craig this isn't mini lad this is craig talking and i want to be as transparent as possible in this video he addresses some of the messages in question explains his motives and apologizes profusely initially this was well received by his intimate fanbase once again as other commentators caught wind of it momentum turned once more against him for a variety of reasons that i'll briefly talk about now that you know what i'm saying why would you even get into that position in the first place if we're just being brutally honest here like that's just some weirdo me you know what i'm saying like i can't imagine like getting into a relationship or like flirting with anyone who's not an adult at this point bro some of these people responded to him by once more chastising his actions which isn't wrong but he's not necessarily defending them in this circumstance so saying he shouldn't have done it is somewhat redundant because he's not disputing it others went in on the evidence that he admitted such as various comments we've discussed prior that really do not flatter his character in any way and i generally agree with this stance given how the comments could definitely be indicative of his own personal attitudes if he wanted to be fully transparent he should have included them however it's also important to note those comments are primarily self-incriminating in the fact that they are an inadequate way to address his misdeeds and this video may serve as a fresh attempt to try and reflect on his initial actions like saving a new word document over a previous one i don't necessarily agree with it but given how others have already pointed it out i figured i'd approach this upload from a different angle now i'm aware that minilad has not been particularly honest in confronting his actions and for many there isn't much of an incentive to believe the explanations that he provides here however for the sake of discourse i am going to entertain that position and see what can be said for it and if there are any points of value that can be drawn from his long overdue apology i am going to listen to mainland i'm even going to try and believe him an attempt to impart some words of wisdom at least um a lot of people think that these people were random fans that um i got in contact with but both hallie and dash these are people who are my friends halle i've known for a long time since maybe 2013 2014 hallie was one of my twitch mods holly was a really good twitch mod she helped me out she helped terrorize her out she helped a lot of the guys who i played with on our streams and she was someone that i could go to with my problems we became close because we both had our our issues one of the first points that craig goes in on is this one the relationship between himself and his accusers this serves as some context to the discourse surrounding his intent his point being that he possessed a closer prior relationship with the other individuals involved than many may have assumed in the past in the context of his actions if this was true it would serve to marginally reduce that power deficit between him and those his actions affected in comparison to that between him and a random fan for example um it wasn't until 2016 when she was 17 that i first started to flirt with her i was 21 at the time um and that's not okay like and i i'm aware of that it also serves as an indirect assertion for why he may have wrongfully assumed that the people he shared these antics with were mentally prepared to interact with him on that level and appealed to his ignorance rather than malice ash to me i knew a lot shorter i may only have known her a few months she was a part of a group of friends who my twitch mods were friends with and that's how we became friends this is someone who i became friends with just through association with my friends um and the stuff i sent to her is just not okay either the problem is that although this may be applicable with halle he doesn't really provide it with ash which points to one of the most pressing issues regarding this whole shambles however minnie still has explanations for his actions to convey if this is my way of putting all my cards in the table and telling you guys what happened i feel like i need to say it the reason i did what i did and there was even a message where i said this is because what i said there is true i did try to end my life at the beginning of 2017. um i'm not looking for sympathy i'm not looking for anything this is not what this is about this is telling you guys the reason and i just want you to understand the head space that i was in now a lot of people gave him criticism for this comment claiming that he was trying to use suicide as a scapegoat but that's a very shaky argument for me on its own at the end of the day we all have mindsets that can affect our actions and if that was the one that affected many lad's actions then so be it although what he did was extremely wrong and his position assumes accountability being an adult does not make you an infallible being there's no holy grail of wisdom that you sit from people do bad things it doesn't mean they're eternally damned to be bad people however the reasoning behind those actions is invaluable in my opinion and this is where mini lad's perspective begins to buckle for certain audience members there are many reasons that i can understand why someone may behave out of order desperation deprivation but i have to admit i find suicide to be a curious rationalization especially in the context that mini presents he doesn't just present the thought as one's impending death as an explanation for his actions but as a motivation for his actions this idea that if he was going to go out then he might as well go out with his greatest advice but if your own mortality is the only thing keeping you from behaving in such a way then it just pays more testimony to this idea that you're a self-interested charlatan your moral compass shouldn't be based on the consequences that you personally have to face down for your actions especially given their severity however at the same time he does also acknowledge this not too long after the reality is i was being selfish i wasn't thinking about repercussions i wasn't thinking about anything i was just being stupid and i i really want to apologize for that i just wasn't thinking and i regret it i've regretted it since and for that for both hallie and ash i'm really sorry as a matter of fact he pretty much admits to having a completely crooked objective in the interactions which may make some wonder why he tried to humanize it in the first place the way i see it is once again to mediate his actions to try and distance himself from narratives that may paint him in a more austin jones style predator light which i don't think he is although there are some parallels he wants to make his action somewhat tangible to his viewers while being suitably self-critical it's the best balance for a video like this but it doesn't feel completely compatible thus meaning it doesn't land for a majority of his detractors and even those who may be sympathetic towards him why whenever i saw them coming out with my message i sent them i sent them this this isn't me that's not right it's it's something that i completely regret i panicked i i was scared i didn't know what to do and i just i loved my job so much that i didn't want it to go away and i just wasn't right so to halley and to ash here at the end up and even to laura for for bringing that up i'm sorry guys you were you were my friends i failed you i was only thinking to myself and i was being stupid i wish i could take it all back well there's obviously the case of too little too late but i think the greater point that it represents is this personal change as said i don't think being an adult makes you invulnerable to misconduct and although it is exceptionally irresponsible given his level of influence and he is right to be called out for it your relative size does not make you a fountain of wisdom i've always advocated a live and learn philosophy if someone has demonstrated a change in their behavior evolved and grown as a person then i will be the first to back them the issue is that as a large creator he already had a relatively small domain to prove growth that may come with evolving life circumstances but on top of that he just failed to do so his failure was what provoked this in the first place in fact he only cared when his income began to suffer and because he attempted to ignore it completely until that point there's no trust in his word whether it was coincidence or not i could believe that he was afraid and scared for his career and everything he might lose that's an understandable fear but the fact of the matter is that he lost more by continuing to take advantage of people's charity and showing that he had not changed whether he was scared or not there may be bits and pieces that i invested for that i apologize but i wanted to try and get everything in here this is also why he couldn't afford to ignore his previous failures to address it properly and other rather dismissive comments now he does have an explanation for his subpar responses which he kind of slips in i also wanted to add in here that a lot of people think that i haven't apologized to these girls um i had to fight my pr team for this but in my initial apology on twitter i said that i would privately message an apology a separate apology to these women and that's what i did this idea of the pr team now i've heard of these pr teams out of touch lawyers and the rest and they can really provide genuinely garbage guidance because they probably learned from the playbook of o.j simpson which is a whole different arena however once again it's hard to say if this is just a scapegoat and even if it isn't you've got to have some strength of character to not rely on other people to get you out of a mess you put yourself in you didn't need a pr team to solicit explicit content so what is the difference here i feel for many this illustrated the crux of the matter how much of it rode on how people interpreted mini lad's own character in the sincerity of his actions he admits that he behaved terribly and manipulated many people whom he shouldn't have he's worked on himself but i think his failure to address it has made his actions look even more incriminating people do shitty things make bad decisions enter toxic dynamics the thing is many people do it because they either don't know better or their judgment has been impaired by other factors to the point where they have a reduced capacity to understand the possible ramifications that their behavior may entail however there are key nuances here that do make mini lads behaviour exceptional and whether people can articulate it or not they know it's there as a launch creator he targeted and became involved with people who had a specific servitude to him prior now as expressed he did have pre-existing friendships with these people in a way and i can understand why he wanted to clarify that because that can yield attachment sometimes the lose context of significant details particularly online it does challenge this idea that he was pursuing people for the sole reason that they were underage however this explanation is only really remotely sympathetic if it was based on genuine feelings he possessed which as much of the evidence and his own elaboration shows really wasn't he didn't have feelings for these people he could have had anyone's attention for such images which makes his actions seem even more dirty and opportunistic when it comes to his behavior towards his victims he basically coerced what he needed out of them and dipped that's conscious sexual exploitation their judgment was already impacted by their own affection towards him and his judgment although possibly limited by his then-present mentality was merely influenced to disregard the well-being of those he affected he often did speak down to them and reading the dms even without the rest of the context it is somewhat discomforting the fact that he behaved in this way specifically undermines any possible context that friendship could provide his video also skirts around his most serious misdeeds and frames as mostly flirting and although his interactions may have primarily occupied that category the more severe individual instance supersede any of the more minor ones frequency of occurrence in this case is a secondary factor my pr team said not to message them but these were my friends and i thought it was right that they deserved their own private apology minilab was purposeful with intent and that's the most damning feature he manipulated people for his own gratification there was nothing sincere about his actions when he puts his failures in responding down to a dysfunctional pr team is not trustworthy because this pr team appears to have advised him to maintain the same pattern of behavior that landed himself in this mess in the first place a pattern of behavior he should have corrected a long time ago he credits himself defying his pr team by messaging apologies to those his actions affected but he can't say those messages were written with sincere intent when they were sent months after he was first called out in august and done while he continued to refuse to address the actual requests of those he affected milad's actions were exacerbated by his character an arrogant yet fragile ego which fed on the validation of people who were too blinded by their own perception of him if craig had been similarly deluded and cleaned up his act then there may be a case for him but as it is it seemed indicative of his character he may genuinely be regretful now but it also may be a case of not realizing what he had until it was gone at the same time it could just be another case of his manipulation so let's talk about that youtube is my life i've been doing it full-time for seven eight years now i've been you know the mainland channel is 10 years old next year and it's all i know it's what i love it's my passion it's it's what i wake up every day and i love to do and i realize over the last even few years that i just haven't put the love and attention into it than you know what i want i want i want it to be like a portfolio of the cool things that i i've done and i want to rekindle myself i want to find out who i am not mini lad not anything like that i want to find craig in spite of your criticisms when you finish watching his apology video it's easy to feel a bit more closure with regards to the situation and many did even those involved such as hallie asked those hawking minilab to move on after all he has done what was asked of him by those his actions affected in some ways the video may make you feel more inclined to trust that this time he's genuine in his desire to change from that perspective it would be fair to leave it behind however it could easily just be another calculated move one that he's pulled before and i think it's fair to keep an eye on that for if he ever decides to return one day if there's one if there's one thing from this that i want to be a flip is this i am so fed up and tired honestly i'm so fed up and tired of seeing all these drama channels uh doing stories and giving the wrong information in the story on june the 10th just a couple of weeks before much of what would lead us to where we are today would transpire minilad had released another apology this one towards terrorizer in the statement he expressed regret for what he said and desire to rebuild the friendship they once had this was met with praise from many within the community however one person appeared to refrain from accepting this offering of peace terrorizer himself following the rather heated exchange at the end of august brian had mostly rebuffed any attempt at settlement between the two parties in spite of many's pleas and claims that the hatch had been buried at points he'd even been characterized as stubborn or unrismal due to his unwillingness to reconcile with his former companion however i think he was completely within his right to decline any step towards reproachment because this didn't seem to be a case of differing perspectives this was a situation where someone publicly unknowingly attacked a person on a very sensitive subject in a way that could have harm multiple relationships we all snap sometimes and say things that we probably shouldn't however our friends will appreciate that they probably came from a place of emotion emotionally driven perspectives may be irrational but will reflect what someone perceives in the moment it was very hard to see how mini lag could have interpreted the situation in the way he presented it and therefore with brian's context he couldn't read it as anything other than pernicious point scoring it was emotional manipulation because minilab presented his case in calm reasoned good faith while making multiple claims that were dubious at best and malicious at worst just thinking about the whole thing pisses me off alright can we move on let's move on alright let's let's let's not talk about stupid drama terrorizer was just another victim of this but people didn't see it that way until the extent of mini's manipulation became clear i felt so terrified i was just trying to be a good friend i was just trying to be a good friend and i thought that's what he thought i was but all i was it was a goddamn tool a goddamn tool to keep to keep anybody from knowing who he truly was the allegations that proceeded nearly a fortnight after his apology to brian didn't just serve in exposing mini lads in decency but also as further evidence for the degree of puppetry he was employing to solicit what he desired even if that material in question was illegal he would argue over the age of consent and so on the differences in certain states and countries setting aside the point that the age of consent doesn't parallel the laws regarding exchange of explicit images in many places it's not just that detail at play here it's the fact that he actively pursued younger fans who looked up to him and used his influence to acquire content that they otherwise would not have consented to giving a lot of people focus on the sexual nature of what he did which is definitely a factor but i think his actions are also implicit not in that he's some serial pedo but more that he exploited people to solicit something he desired which was aggravated by the nature of the content even the twitlonger emphasizes manipulation how what further provoked people to come forward was the result of a consensual relationship with another adult the concern wasn't just that mini lad had a bad habit or a bad addiction one that he may well have left behind but that he was a fundamentally broken person who refused to fix himself he knew he was doing that and he knew exactly how to present himself in a way that would appeal to various emotional freities when confronted he once more appealed to their pity and sympathy pledging to seek help and support and reinforcing the fact that he was a changed man the saddest thing is that people like hallie held off on going public because they genuinely believed this they knew the internet would be hostile and they wanted to give minnie a chance to have a career in spite of his actions but he manipulated them on this as well and when it became apparent to them that he had behaved no differently in his previous relationships they knew there was no other option the internet was hostile but when many put out his response admitting to his malefaction and promising the rectification that would be incumbent on him many actually did respond somewhat optimistically stating that although his actions were terrible they hoped he'd receive the help he needed however this post would prove to be only the start of the greatest yet most transparent manipulation as of now the largest proverbial middle finger to all those his actions affected by if i leave the house that means i'm not able to work on my videos and i'm able to work on this thing and that thing and it it became such a mind game that i lost myself and that's it's hard to admit but it's the reality of it i lost myself but i'm i'm happy to say that i'm i'm re-gathering it i've i'm finding my roots again a pair of recorded statements that would attempt to deceive his fans into thinking that his hiatus was actually inspired by the need to find himself and that many of the allegations were misguided or ill-founded in spite of the fact that many of that which he focused on did not come close to aggregating the crux of the matter once more revealing his duplicitous nature and provoking further backlash it's terrible and the fact that we got five minutes of no genuine like feelings through that whole thing as a person who knew him or thought i did uh yeah that didn't seem very goddamn genuine this led to what can only be regarded as a content implosion of unprecedented scale consistently being harangued from all angles and growing more and more pathetic with the passage of time highlighting this desperation whether it was arrogance ignorance or something that we don't know he was essentially adding a coat of paint to a train wreck maybe manipulation is all he knew maybe it's all he's ever known watching him game and laugh like nothing was going on was arguably more annoying than anything else for those he's wrong and it brought into question all the times he's claimed to care and the times he's used those narratives to provide him with greater moral gravitas some people point towards his charity work as if it defends his character but with the current circumstances considered i think it only entrenches the fraud it made every good action seem contrived for self-serving purposes it made mini land's existence seem manipulative if minilad really cared so much about the fans whose lives were on the line in those dms he would have gone out of his way to prove he was a good person and to rebuild that lost fate [Music] let him know y'all thought you were done with me huh yeah enjoy that award you prick it's the last one you're gonna get i'm sorry i've dealt with a lot of miscreants on this channel and many of them have done terrible things but a lot of the time i don't find myself hating them for what they've done but more how they respond when finally having to confront their actions the hubris the insolence the absurdity mini lad is the epitome of moral desertion under fire if people showed that they had improved or that they were working on themselves although it may be hard to look at them in the same way you did before you can at least feel hope they might find themselves or support them on that journey and return to being a positive force in people's lives at some point in the future there's no hope here only whatever you call this the you better not keep anybody in the miniature enemy hundred percent of you is a fifth of a percentage says he's been seeing a therapist and i'm genuinely glad however i hope his hiatus this time will be more serious than any previous ones undertaken and i hope his therapist and those around him emphasize this because it seems to me that he's still got a bit of a way to go on this journey and these videos are hardly instrumental to that i say this with the proviso that his therapist is real and it's not just another story but looking at his past this can sometimes feel like wishful thinking and that's a shame walking around casually then you got these guys you are my penis being caught up in the past is like being caught in quicksand the more struggling you do the more it seems to consume you but you can't just escape it at your own convenience you need someone to help you out [Laughter] [Music] spent many years ascending the youtube hierarchy and amassing a loyal fan base however his position below banos always motivated him to aspire for a greater role as an independent creator in many ways he wanted to disconnect from that association he wanted to leave the past behind however it wasn't just that he wanted to enshrine his status as an individual and in my opinion outshine his erstwhile colleagues now in many regards these two objectives aren't in opposition to each other many would argue that actually crafting your own identity is part of moving forward as a creator however i think looking at his old comments there was an insecurity a desire to be something greater for the sake of it a necessity to prove himself at any expense with many of his accomplishments minnie appeared to be heading in the direction of writing himself into the youtube history books as an unequivocal force for good his work for charity receiving widespread recognition and acclaim however whether due to circumstances or complacency the mass began to slip all they did was play fortnite in gmod and then talk about other youtubers in this reflection of his past he showed that whether he had changed in status his character hadn't really followed what many may perceive as trash talk may just have been another underhanded attempt to sway audiences away from those he used to be close to in the drama terrorizer that his comments subsequently precipitated he showed that he had a much greater interest in his image rather than the truth using people's limited perspective on past circumstances to twist the version of events and capitalize on people's sympathies after being caught out in his ploy he changed his tone switching to one about moving forward in spite of his failure to sufficiently convince his old friend that was really what he cared about this is because to move forward you have to believe that the person has changed from their past self and the simple truth was that mini lad hadn't and in the following year this was proven time i went on this mental health journey and time she would be the person who's responsible for killing thousands of people and time i wanted to set the record straight again in his videos after the allegations many tried to implant this narrative into the viewers minds about journeys and personal progress while simultaneously failing to acknowledge what he was meant to be progressing from using the general distaste of concepts like cancer culture in attempting to override the shock value that detailing his actions may provoke at the start i said that we all want to move on from our past and we don't want it held over us that remains true and i'll always defend someone who i legitimately believe has changed their ways but i also said if we don't acknowledge it then we are prone to repeating it in many ways many showed that the past was still present and that he hadn't grown nor learned from his previous abasement utilizing the narratives but failing to respect their meaning the allegations weren't just their own indictment of minilad's behavior they were a test of his character and he flunked them miserably this was a situation where he had used his power as a youtuber in multiple ways it was crucial to his status as a public figure that he cleared the air yet he failed to do so in fact he only polluted it more this is why people didn't move on this is why people were vocal there were so many willing to give minnie a second chance including those close to him but he just tried to distance himself from the consequences while projecting the exact same behavior that screwed over so many people previously it seemed he was hoping he'd tire out all those who were trying to maintain the heat and possibly even provoke sympathy from those who may not have felt favorably towards the continuing backlash but it was all to no avail eventually he did address the allegations against him more directly but it was hard to trust his word because it felt like his hand was forced if no one had ever applied that pressure would he have continued to ignore it that's a very important question didn't know where i was going i didn't try and make anything of it damn my first my only goal i ever had on youtube is i wanted to hit a hundred subscribers now the channel's on nearly six million this one's on 1.3 i wanted to hit a hundred that's all i wanted and you guys came along and you changed my life infinitely and for that i'm forever grateful for every single person watching this video that means you saw this video you clicked on it and you support me in that and i thank you for that if what's spoken about today makes you feel sad or disappointed as a former or present fan of his then that's okay you're not a bad person for having looked up to someone who you thought was a good person it's just important to not allow yourself to be trapped in that past romanticization of what you thought that person was many has used his reputation and how people admired him to hold others hostage and you deserve to be more than ammunition for a narcissist bloated ego at the same time if you want to help him make that change like he says he wants to at this point then i can't stop you on principle it's not my job as a viewer or spectator to tell you exactly what he thinks right now and i don't think anyone losing everything they have for the rest of their lives gonna help with rehabilitation but know that it has to be a highly cautious investment because his track record shows he's taken advantage of what he's been given far too often as for many i'll leave the internet to decide what they want to do with him many want him off the platform altogether some want him to face charges but to be honest whatever the outcome the blame falls squarely at his feet it's not something he's going to be leaving behind past present or future this reality reveals that mini loud perhaps never cared about all those he claimed to and that may be the greatest letdown he tied himself to the point of mental health claiming to be a friend doing all these wonderful things yet behind the scenes would use the association to merely protect the facade and silence those who wanted to tear it down the milad saga is probably one of the most disheartening stories to cover because i think so many expected better and extended compassion towards him with the hope that he would be better but many only cared about what people thought rather than how they felt he recognized how many viewed him and used it for his own gratification he saw those ready to speak out and engineered silence he exploited a sympathetic audience but failed to extend the same sympathy to those his actions affected the one thing he could never seem to do was the right thing and that's the single consistency i'll give him credit for minilad is the personification of 2020 a continuous cycle of the open expectation of improvement followed by disappointment when we realize the true extent of the depravity it is depressing and in times like these it is easy for the stress to make one reminisce at the start i spoke about returning to the bygone days a time where there were fewer worries everything seems simpler i want this space this channel this area to be somewhere that people can come in and feel welcomed and they can leave with a smile on their face and be happy that's all that i want in minilad's clearing the air video and his subsequent apology he showed a yearning for that himself a desire to restore that ethos with his channel and in a way this may have been followed through in certain uploads however for audience members you can't do that until you've shown that you were the person that people thought you were before it changed the meaning of the content they were no longer the feel-good escape for some they were part of the ordeal people weren't smiling the facade was incontrovertible and many had to drop the act and realized that this would not wash it was no longer the same times change but it's not always the things around that change more so our knowledge them the past mini lads was the present mini lad we unfortunately or fortunately just know more now and whether you still wish to go back to a time of blissful ignorance you're at the end of the video so that's not an option apologies i don't expect daffodils and rainbows after this i wanted to be raw i want you guys to build up trust in me over time and i want to be able to make videos that i'm proud of and i want to be able to be better and that's what i wanted to say so that's the end of the video woo i'm here i'm alive still i want to give big thanks to my editors they're probably somewhere in existence right now having a nice maybe not so nice day and send them some love if you can i'll leave their links in the pinned comments big thanks to the patrons patrons i've got that word right now you can the 10 patrons are on screen currently i'd like to give a big thanks to my fifty dollar patreon sumhala baloo caroline hypercube amanda tree arlen bradley goth cream puff cat ears.jpg anka umala and angela m garten your support is eternally appreciated a very very special thank you also to marlo my 100 patron it means the world to me thank you so much it's great to have you on board i'd also like to give a big thanks to artists whose art is featured in this video artists used on the channel are generally credited as well in the pinned comments and if your art is used and you'd like credit for that then you can contact me on my email i don't really have too much else to add my socials as always will be in the bottom of the pinned comment or somewhere around there i know it depends what i'm doing but yes i don't really have too much else to add i hope you guys have a good day take care i'm the right opinion and i'll see you in the next one [Music] you

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