Max Dream

all right max dream hello max uh where are you from originally um i'm from louisiana originally what part southern um southern yeah so a little town is about an hour from baton rouge in an hour from lafayette but i would work in lafayette because that was like kind of the closest like smaller city to me i love southern louisiana yeah it's really nice beautiful um and tell me about your childhood growing up you had both your folks um so i grew up basically with my granny like my granny raised me primarily um my mom and i we never really like got along i did live with her for a few years though um when i was in like fourth to fourth to like ninth grade um but my granny like really raised me i would go see my granny for the summers like go back to granny's house for the summers what were your mom and dad doing that um well my mom she was like a exotic dancer and stuff and um we just never connected like we just never had much of a relationship she was a little we're just not the same type of person and my dad he passed away whenever i was like 10 so i'm sorry no that's okay how would you describe your childhood um i would say it was like pretty pretty good and also like you know there was some things that were bad but i would say all in all it was pretty pretty okay no crazy abuse and all that kind of stuff my mom was definitely like abusive um not the type of like abuse that i think like people see is abuse and that was kind of like a mind warp or whatever trying not to cuss but like yeah it was definitely some abuse going on um just like as far as like mental abuse and she didn't really hit me or nothing like that so it wasn't anything like that but it was more just like um kind of emotional excuse so yeah how far did you go to school um so i went up till 12th grade and then i dropped out so like i dropped out right before you get your diploma right before then yeah so yeah i was just like oh i'm too grown i'm gonna get a job like yeah very stupid but stay in school so you're currently working at a brothel yes outside of las vegas yes it's about 45 minutes in a county outside of vegas where prostitution is not legal in las vegas but it's but it is legal just outside of las vegas yeah in the smaller counties i think it's a population thing so it's like a population below i not entirely sure how many people it has to be but it has to be below a certain number of people for you to have a brothel there and then you can't open a new one it has to be grandfathered in like with an existing license is that right and you worked there how long um so for about three years actually my anniversary of working there just passed i was october 7th have you worked in other brothels before i did yeah i used to work at bunny ranch so oh up in near reno yeah near uh i think it was carson city it was like right outside of carson city yeah i've been there before so tell me about working as a well first off how did you start doing sex work well i guess it was kind of like i really didn't want to do sex work honestly i was very embarrassed when i got into it very ashamed and um i ended up like having to be an exotic dancer to pay my bills and i had like a big issue with that because my mom was an exotic dancer so i just thought like she was mean because of that like i thought that that was what made her like this unpleasant person and um come to find out it wasn't because like a lot of ladies who do that type of work are very nice some of the nicest people i've met but um you know i was real ashamed and then i went strip at the local strip club and everybody i knew came see me naked like all my bosses and like old friends and stuff so that was interesting and um i just got like real embarrassed and i kind of let it like take me down a very like dark path i got into drugs and everything and so like at a certain point i was embarrassed and i was like i gotta go away like where people don't know me and so i decided to jump in my car and drive to northern nevada to work at the bunny ranch um before that though let me back up before that i had like definitely taken a couple clients outside of the strip club because like every night people would be like oh i'll give you a thousand dollars come home with me and if you didn't like word would get around the club and when you weren't new anymore it was like you wouldn't make money because like it was just so expected like no one said that they did it but all the pretty girls did it like everybody did it because that was just i find it interesting how so many people don't understand that strip clubs to to my experience are just fronts for i agree yeah i agree because there's these back rooms and there's also a phone number you can give out and you meet a girl i mean i've been propositioned so many times at these clubs not that i go a lot but when i was looking for girls to to photograph for my first book you go to these places and they're asking you if you want to have sex in the back room it's true and it's not about it i thought this was a strip flip it's a whorehouse basically yeah if you're not about it too like then you're just like outcast like if you're a girl who doesn't want to do it because i used to be so stupid i used to be like no i don't have sex for money like i'm sure there are exceptions so somebody's going to say i'm sure this club doesn't do that yeah there's some clubs that are that are run right or they try to run them right i think but um yeah i don't know it gets through the cracks like it just becomes a thing people are always offering these girls so much money it kind of gets hard to turn down at a certain point so in your experience girls that do sex work or work in the brothels or strip clubs are doing it because they have kids and they need to support them somehow and they don't have a dad a lot of the time yeah i mean i'm so lucky that i don't have children because i know some ladies who work in the brothels and work in the sex industry that got into it because of that because we had kids to support or you know i even know people that like you know uh their mom or something was sick or they had a family member that they needed to take care of or you know just like weird extenuating circumstances is that a word i'm not sure but yeah weird circumstances yeah i think there are there are also a lot of girls that are doing this on the high end that are professionals or going to school or becoming yeah it's surprising some of the stories they won't do interviews with me but but they'll tell me like what they're doing and it's like wow that's fascinating because you would never suspect that you're you're your doctor your therapist would be a an escort no i so agree because like there's a lawyer that used to work where i work at at sheri's um she was a lawyer and like she was like a hustler she'd be like oh you 10 minutes rebook like you know what i mean like and she was just so like uh like a lawyer would be she got paid for her time and she knew that and um a lot of the girls that worked there like the older ladies who have been there while they're like real estate moguls and doing all kinds of stuff i know a girl that was on america's got talent that i met like a bunny ranch actually and she was like one of the girls that changed my whole perspective about prostitution and like what it was how did you do that um she just like was the most ladylike most beautiful most well put together lady you would never think that this girl had sex yeah you don't give off the vibe of a sexual i mean like i'm gonna guess i like i like to be like a kind of like a different than what people expect and she kind of taught me like you can be different than what people expect i guess so yeah thank you for that there's something for everybody and not all guys just want to i won't use the term but you know girl who's just yeah they're for one thing yeah and it's like a lot of ladies i think get put in a box like whenever they start doing that type of work so they think they have to be that like and you know i'm sexual too like there's nothing wrong with that either um but it's like you can you can uh i don't know i think take pride in it too so so today you're working at the last three years you've been working at cherries yeah cherries and this is outside of las vegas yeah um sherry's ranch brothel yeah how many girls are working there um i want to say there's 24 that we can have in the house max at a time because it's like our licensing yeah so it's like a pretty big brothel it was smaller and then they added on at some point and so like there's a part of the floor that's like hollow it's where the old brothel ended and like they just built onto that but i want to say we have like we probably have about 40 girls in rotation that like come in and out some girls work more frequently than others like i'm a regular girl over there i work like every other week or for sure like every month at some point i work so yeah and how i mean so the guys will come there seven days a week or is it just a weekend thing um yeah i know it's seven days a week i used to not work the weekends at all and i didn't like working at nights either because it was just kind of like a weird rowdy crowd and i have confidence like i had confidence so even during the day on a tuesday tuesdays were my best days when i first started actually like during the day like around like 11 a.m on a tuesday i would sit in the bar and like drink red wine and smoke cigarettes and read a book and like what kind of guys come into a brothel um nice guys at cherries like i think it depends on the place like but exactly because i see the caliber of guys that work for that that shop around on figueroa street i can't imagine yeah or or here at skid row it's even worse yeah no i can't imagine what kind of guy would like yeah i really can't even imagine what the guys are like out here it's super dangerous too yeah but they're complete gentlemen like yeah so i think what you're doing is probably the top of the food chain of this kind of sex work i would say yeah maybe this or like a very high end escort yeah i'm like very lucky for that it shouldn't be that way like i think we should all be able to be treated with respect like shouldn't be demonized or like treated like less of a human because you were in you know difficult circumstances and had to choose to sell your body but um yeah i know a lot of ladies don't have working conditions like me so like i would say we're probably top one percent yeah and it's a nice clean place and you're tested yeah for everything all the time right make me very aware of like my sexual health because like i didn't even like know about safe sex until i worked at a brothel that sounds really bad but it's like true my granny basically raised me so nobody really gave me the talk like sex was talked about around me like my mom would talk about it and stuff but it was never like i was never talked to about it so it like created this like fascination so because you're working at this higher end level of of sex worker do you find what emotions does this work bring up in you do you get depressed you get angry do you get you know do you feel disrespected sometimes or do you not i can't really say that i ever do honestly i have before like i did for sure as in the strip clubs i did um at bunny ranch sometimes um more often than not like i would say that everybody's so nice like honestly like i would say that the best relationships i have are the ones that i've made at sherry's like with the clients and with the girls like it gave me a better relationship with women and with like men too because like they just worship me treat me like princess how much is a a what do you call a session what do you call it a party we call it partying a party yeah like a party how much is it to party with you well it's um i like to say between like four and five digits it could be more than that um it could be less uh every lady is different they make their own prices but i'm not really at liberty to say yeah specifics right but yeah so it's pricey yeah so you so you attract a higher end clientele yes yeah like so that means that means the the danger element is is gone yeah there's not i'd never feel in danger over there like i do feel endangered just like societally like that maybe somebody could take out their anger on you know me or the ladies i work with just because we do the type of work we do you know there's like shootings and stuff that happen that don't get talked about um not at the brothel um but like you know it's a thing that we worry about sometimes so um that's about the only thing that i could think of like i never fear a client individually like they're all super nice and if i get a weird vibe i just won't see them because i can practice discernment which i'm thankful for that so you have the ability to say no if a guy chooses you yeah like i think i think the way it works the way i saw it at uh the bunny ranch when i was there is a guy would come in and all the girls would line up in this like circular room and he would you know everyone would introduce themselves and then he'd pick one yeah and go off to the room and that's that yeah it was a lineup house over there do you mind if i drink my water no sorry i'm both nervous yes you have the ability to say no if a guy picks you yeah so like if you don't want to see someone which i very seldom do as long as someone's nice i'm like pretty cool with them um but like people are always like oh do you not see someone if they like look a certain way and i'm like nah i never don't see someone for that but i won't see someone if they have an ugly personality like once in a blue moon somebody might walk in and be like not even disrespectful but less than enthusiastic and it's like if you're gonna be with me in that way i want you to like be happy about it i want you to be excited for that because like i want you to value it not feel ashamed you know so what's the hardest part of this job for you um keeping up can uh like i love being in contact with people the way that i am but i would say just keeping up with like the logistics of it people think it's like a easy job but it's a lot of communication it's a lot of like emailing like i'm so not on top of it lately um and just like um say i have like something going on in my personal life or like my mental health is kind of like shaky um which is a great job for that also because people are really understanding but it's like i feel guilty that maybe i can't like connect with each and every person that reaches out like any sex worker then interviewing i'm what i'm picking up is how difficult it must be to go spend you know whatever 10 minutes or half an hour an hour with this guy who's more aggressive and maybe outgoing and then the other guys are very quiet and all these different personalities one after the other after the other after the other and you have to adapt for each different personality and some of them can be wildly different right yeah you do and it like it's true like what you said about it making like it makes you very adaptable yeah like um it's but to me that's kind of cool because it teaches you about like people and how to interact you can take those skills and do all kinds of different jobs all kinds of things i also like my um clients a lot of questions like you know if they're lawyers i'll be like well what is this like or what is it like to do that or what's this law mean like you know so i try to like get some sort of like information out of it too how is this doing this kind of work and and interacting with all these kind of men um change your personality does it make you more outgoing or i would say yeah because i was very shy when i was younger i was like so shy honestly and um at different points in my life even not when i was just like a kid but like there's points when i'll just like be mentally ill and just revert back into myself and it definitely has brought me out of my shell it gave me a lot of confidence and what does your family think of this well my granny she recently passed away um so but she was actually very very cool with it she and i talked on the phone every single day including while i was at the brothel i'll be like oh granny my client sent me all kind of gifts uh or like granny is whole christmas like i call it ho christmas when i get gifts just because like i don't know i think it's funny and i like to laugh at myself and like my life because it's hilarious um and like um she was always very cool with it like she knew that i was safe and that i was happy and she knew that it helped me like really become sane and get my [ __ ] together and like be able to comfortably take care of myself i think when i survived the pandemic on my own like she knew that like i was okay and i think that's why like maybe the way things worked out that she passed away um is because i was finally able to just like be self-sufficient and independent she knew that i was like cared for there and so she was fine with it [Music] one of the nice things about doing your work at this level is you don't you don't have pimps taking off taking the money no the house does take 50 but to me that's like a small price to pay for safety and um yeah like safety and discretion if you want it like i'm pretty open about what i do but some ladies are not like they want to go have other careers other lives and stuff like you were saying and so yeah no i think that it's kind of worth it i think it's a little high sometimes but um also like i don't know it's like you can't really work safely anywhere else and do this type of job so yeah what's your favorite kind of job favorite kind of job just in general john trick oh guy someone who likes to like talk to me uh i like to talk to people like um kind of like i guess get to know like why people are the way they are but also like someone who is just like interested in talking to me like i like to talk to my clients a lot so anybody like that really do you think prostitution should be legalized i do i do think it should be legalized because i think that there's so many women like in every community and every place in the country in the world that like have to sell their body and it's like they're demonized after that and it's like they're outcasts and marginalized but they weren't really welcome in society anyways because of their circumstances and i think it's really messed up i think that like there would be a lot less like crimes committed there would be a lot less murder there would be a lot less human trafficking because it would like expose it you know yeah um and i just think that it would save people's lives honestly oh i'm sure it would definitely saved my life and a lot of ladies like where i work would say that too when you were a young girl did you have dreams of doing something with your life yeah definitely um i had too many that like that's the thing i could never really put my finger on exactly what i wanted to do i used to tell my granny i wanted to like be a politician or be like president um i was a makeup artist which i had dreamed of being when i was a kid which was cool but i did that when i was kind of young and i wasn't like stable enough in my life to like really really i got embarrassed because like my life circumstances were kind of uh you know not the best and um i was a little unstable like with just you know my transportation things like that and so like it was just hard for me to like keep myself together and at a certain point i was like i'm not worthy to work here and so i ended up just like leaving and having a mental breakdown and was in a mental hospital all that fun stuff so do you think that maybe in some ways you're following in your mom's footsteps i didn't want to honestly i did everything that i but you know she was a stripper yeah you became a stripper and that led to this she was at escort too whenever i was young apparently because my granny raised me so like my granny told me that and i haven't apologized to her because like that was kind of told to me and then of course i'm a stupid little kid and i was like shamed her about it and i apologized to her i was like i'm really sorry if i ever shamed you for like you know telling your body like there's nothing wrong with that but um you know we we we're different for different reasons but yeah i know it's we're almost twins for one and we're almost like exactly the same person but it's like we have a different heart like that's what my granny would say is just like um i'm a lot more like uh soft-hearted i guess but yeah i know it's ironic because it was everything that i like didn't want to become but it's like everybody that i ever had the audacity to like judge i ended up like walking in their shoes maybe as like a lesson or something so do you feel any shame about what you do no not at all not at all no i feel like i give love and i feel like there's nothing wrong with that and these people give me love too so it's like uh the only thing i feel ashamed about is that i have better situations to work in than like every other woman who has to do this type of work but yeah no i i really don't i don't feel like i do anything manipulative or wrong in any way right have you been in love before i have i feel like i fall in love really frequently and i fall in love like really hard and fast so i can say like i pretty much love everybody which is weird but um and maybe that's the cliche answer but um i love my clients like i truly like to say that because the caliber is a little more yeah i love it there's probably a chance that you actually might yeah i do connect with somebody right i do i connect with them i love them i was really happy to go back to the brothel after my granny died because like the support that i don't have like anywhere else in my life like i got at the brothel um i got so many people reach out to me and like be like max you know i'm sorry to hear that no one else reached out to me like from like say like my hometown really they might have like reached out to me on the low or whatever but like no one really like i don't know was there for me and the way like the girls at the brothel were and like um the clients too like they're just so sweet so i love them i really do i've had a couple like boyfriends that i love but it never really worked out is it is it hard meeting guys outside of this circle that you're in well i don't really really really really because of the work you do um i mean i don't really try to but i wouldn't say i wouldn't say it is i would say that actually like my love life improved once i started doing it almost like i think there's a fascination among men all kinds of men with girls that do what you do yeah yeah it is it's almost like a novelty but then they may not want to admit it but they're fascinated with the wild girl that's doing this crazy thing that's forbidden and wrong and yeah and judged you know yeah personally but but they're fascinated by it it is yeah it is kind of fascinating i was fascinated by it too like i was admitted you're more desirable because of this yeah no i agree with that because like um yeah it's almost like we're like a novelty but then it's like almost like they expect me personally i can't speak for everybody else but like me personally they expect me to be wilder than i am because i'm pretty vanilla i'm actually like very boring i dress like a boy a lot of the time i'm like you know just not really like a super sexual person unless i'm like you know being at work and being sexual i'm actually celibate outside of the brothel like i don't have sex at all yeah and i can imagine that one of these guys if he has the ability to accept your life it could be a really beautiful relationship yeah i have had like it's a hard that's a hard ask it is a hard ask but i don't know i don't think it is though because like if if i love somebody like for no reason they give me nothing like they don't give me money they're not making sure that i'm supported the way my clients are like my clients show me they love me by like making sure that they invest in my interest they buy me things so i can learn things um you know anything i want to learn like i'll put it on my wish list or say i want to do this or that like my clients will get me that because they want to see me develop my skills and like get into things that i'm interested in and like see me grow as a person your your story about your clients is such a drastic drastic extreme difference from what i see with the girls on figueroa it's so people who are picking up these guys like creeps just trash yeah just creeps that you wouldn't trust any female to step in the car with yeah cowardly cowardly i mean i hate to say that like they're going to come for me whatever they're unstable they're they're dangerous they're they are dangerous it's just like i'm horrified and they're in normal like life like that's the thing that freaks me out about it is that they're like people that are integrated in society like these women are not allowed to be part of society but these depraved individuals are who would go and hurt a woman or go and pay a woman thirty dollars for a [ __ ] like how sad you know what i mean but these are the people that go home to their wives um i don't know the people at the brothel there at least at cherries and specifically um they're so much different they're so so much different and it's like really crazy to see like the range that there is out there is this kind of work for like can any girl do it or you have to be a special kind of woman to do it i mean i think anyone could do it i didn't want to do it i definitely wasn't the type of girl that would have thought that i would end up doing this i was real real shy um i didn't like even have sex with the lights on before i started working in a brothel yeah i was like real shy which is stupid but yeah now i'm like more comfortable with myself and uh just people in general but yeah no i think anyone could do it i was in marching band i was a complete nerd still am so yeah i think anyone could do it if they were in circumstances that kind of like required that because like i did kind of have to get pushed into it like by like just like life getting too much and the money is good yeah the money is amazing yeah so that would be hard for you to just walk away from this right it would be yeah i can't imagine like not having home money getting it getting a job at nordstrom's yeah it would be difficult i did work at dillard's whenever i was younger and i liked it but um when i worked at mac but yeah um it would be super difficult nowhere would ever like compare like it would just wouldn't be the same and also i like it too so like that would be difficult to leave behind like my sense of like family that i have over there and rather than saying it impedes your you know hurts your life in some way it actually seems to boost your self-esteem and make you feel good about yourself and it has yeah it definitely has i think it definitely depends on like where you do it because you mentioned mental health a little bit earlier yeah i mean how has this job impacted that i think it's significantly improved it so like for instance where i work at now when i started there i'd shave my head and like gotten like kind of kind of overweight like i had gained a bunch of weight very rapidly because my mental health was in a bad place and so i just cut off all my hair and um like i don't know i just kind of like morphed into a person that i didn't recognize because i guess i was trying to like i don't know what i was trying to do i just wasn't really all the way sane i couldn't really talk and i was just trying to like um maybe show people like to like back up or like not not like look at me like that you know um because like you know there have been situations when i wasn't respected like i wasn't treated well um you know even just in life not just in the sex industry you know what i mean um so yeah like i did that and then working at sherry's like i remember i couldn't look at anybody in the eyes girls would like tell me hi and i'd just think that they were being nice to me and um i don't know it ended up like really making me feel like valued as a person and like my boss really liked me and i figured out i could trust her and trust all the ladies i work with and it i blossomed into like a different person the same person but like a stronger version of a person that i kind of like recognized from when i was younger um this is such a stigma to sex especially in the united states that people that do any kind of sex worker they're gross they're judged harshly yeah but i'm so i'm so vanilla like compared to most people like um i don't know i mean i know real estate agents that are like super freaks and almost no one i know that's a square or whatever uses protection so like i know i didn't ever before i worked in a broth i didn't even know about that and drugs alcohol or things for you currently um i drink a little bit at work sometimes i don't drink very much now especially after the pandemic because like i don't like hangovers but i'll drink like they only give us six shots of alcohol a day so it's six one ounce shots and they have to be spaced out an hour apart so like i might like have a glass of wine and if i go in the bungalow they'll give me two shots because they encourage you to drink they don't encourage you to drink a lot of girls don't drink actually a lot of girls don't drink at all but i i can kind of meet her drinking it's never been a problem for me drugs were a problem for me when i was younger um for like short periods though because i would just go all the way crazy and um it made me more assertive though it did it did yeah i'm sure do you have friends like friends outside of this um i would say that like friends in the business like they're my best friends they're really the only friends i have and my neighbors i'm friends with all my neighbors which is really sweet and cute um but like it's kind of weird because they all know i'm a sex worker like they know i'm a prostitute and um they're just like all like there's a couple of them that even were like oh i'mma tell my kid when they're old enough that like you did what you did and like that you were a really nice lady like so that they understand not to judge people um so i have like friends like that but most of the friends i've made are through the brothel but they're like the best friends i've ever had never had better friends and because it's legal in vegas or in parts of nevada but even in vegas everyone knows that this is something that's legal just outside of town that gives it a little more respectability yeah you don't have to hang your head and or hide in shame you're you're like no i i work a job just like you do yeah i tell people like say a guy hits on me or whatever i'll be like uh i'm a sex worker and they're like excuse me like what does that mean and um i'm like a sex worker and they're like what excuse me i don't like i don't understand i'm like a prostitute like and then they're just like like they can't believe that i just like said it like that and then i'm just like okay well have a nice day you tell them where to go yeah i do i give them so if a dude like asked me for my number i give them my website i'm like uh here let me write my website down for you like what have you learned about men or about human beings in doing this kind of work um that like i guess that some people didn't get the love that they need but like uh a lot of your clients married a lot of them are yeah um i learned a lot about human beings and i learned a lot about like women that like women i don't know a lot of women are like mean to each other but where i work they're not like they're all friends they genuinely like don't talk about each other you've never seen like a better working environment anywhere like even restaurant industry any job and so it's like i've learned the bunny ranch as well i wouldn't say that no so i would just say sherry's has a nice group then yeah i think it's because dina um our madame she's a lady and she runs it and she just don't put up with no bs like she don't put up with no drama she doesn't want that she doesn't cultivate an environment of like girls attack each other and fight for my entertainment like the way maybe some places would what advice would you give to a young lady who's thinking about doing something like this um because what you're doing is a very different it's very different world than most of the girls they interview i'd say if you're going to do it do it at a safe legal place if you can get to one make sure that you take care of your sexual health always always never compromise on that and always keep yourself safe because there are people out there that are looking to hurt women who are in vulnerable situations but also if you do it do it all the way and don't be ashamed of it because i think that that's what keeps women in the industry for too long is that they get ashamed of it their life doesn't look how they expected it to look or they feel like they failed in some way and then they're like i'm a prostitute so i'm going to do all these bad things that are cast onto me basically you know all these things that i thought about prostitution and then it just like it kind of destroys them so just don't let it be like that like if you're gonna do it do it with pride like you um be grateful that you can do it and like you know have a plan save your money that's what i would say do you have any regrets in your life yes you painted a pretty rosy picture of your life it's not rosie it's not rosie at all um but i don't have many regrets though i have a couple but and and i can't really say that their regrets because honestly like i'm very blessed for my life like i love my life i can't believe i'm you're doing this interview right now it's like kind of a weird dream come true for me but i can say that like maybe my regret would be that i moved out of my granny's house a little too early but i think that every kid did that and i don't really think it would have made that much of a difference but it just like kind of once i moved out she got like sick because she had had cancer whenever i was like uh when i dropped out of high school i think and um like i just like moved out too early and i should have stayed with her for at least those next few months or whatever and so i just trying to be too grown that was like a regret of mine and being mean to myself um treating everybody else with so much kindness and then just being so mean to myself and so hard on myself like and i'm just like why i should have loved myself you should always be your like own biggest fan and like your best your best uh supporter and advocate and i didn't treat myself like that so that's my regret is is female attracting this a commodity oh i would say yes yes definitely because the way you get treated um for instance when i gained weight i was treated like a completely different person my sex is like a survival skill for me but not so much sex like attractiveness is a survival skill for me but i think it is kind of for everybody it's like it's a woman's natural resource if she doesn't have anything else you know she has attractiveness and that's like how you're picked is like oh like am i going to marry a rich man and like hope he'll take care of me well if i'm pretty then i can get a dude that's like rich and you know like that's so normal or i can get a better job because i'm pretty and like it it's a thing like pretty privilege is a thing and so yeah the more attractive you are the better opportunities you have so yeah i struggle with this sometimes i'll try to think that i don't operate that way yeah i'm above that everybody does but but then i try not to be like that i love people i love all people yeah i mean i i'm human yeah and there's certain things that are more attractive to a man than than others and that's just very true i feel myself a lot more now than like when i was bigger like i didn't feel i didn't identify with that and i missed being treated the way that i get treated like as i look now like you're happier yeah with your physical appearance now i am but i'm also happy with like my mentality now too because like i was pretty when i was younger i didn't feel like i was and the mental health also shows itself physically yeah for sure you can you can look at you and you walk in the door you can tell that this is somebody who's happy and healthy yeah well thanks yeah i mean i'm not like my whole life it's not rosy like i have problems just like anybody else probably a lot of the same problems that like you know these women who work on figueroa have you know to some extent or i have at some point like that's how i even got into it have you ever had any really special clients who have really treated you nicely um yeah honestly they're all special like i mean i have like the most romantic loving um make me feel special experiences i've ever had were with clients i had this one client he was a sci-fi author and he really helped me so much um he would he didn't even want to have sex either we'd go on like picnics to the waterfall this was like up at bunny ranch we do outdates and like he ended up like helping me move my cats across the country all kind of stuff and um you know i had this one client he set up this picnic in the park for me guys are softies yeah no they're they're sweet like they're real sweet and um even like people that don't spend a lot of money they're really special they'll bring me like um gift cards or like you know little sweet things like or they'll email me and be like oh my god you like you made such a difference in my life um just like really appreciate me as a person that helps me appreciate myself but like as far as like big spenders um i've had some like i've definitely had some like amazingly generous people but i really want to get my wife for a week package like someone to come in and book that and that's like when you just book like the whole week and it is expensive it's like a what would that be like yes yeah it'd be like six no no no it'd be like five figures no no no it'd be six figures yeah it'd be six figures so someone you know and you live you're their wife for a week basically yeah as much as i can be and then you're out the door yeah i mean i still talk to them i keep in touch with everybody that i see like they're my real friends what advice would you give to a girl who doesn't have anything to do with sex work just a regular girl a square just in general just in general in terms of like self-esteem self-worth as a female attractiveness all these things we just kind of talked about um i would say let me think about that for just a second you seem to have learned a lot about this this not just the sex world but just also just people existing as a woman in today's society yeah i would say you know um be yourself and you know always make sure that you don't do anything that's like out of character because i think that that's the type of things that you have to feel guilty for so it's like don't do things that are like and when i say out of character i mean like um don't like say someone does you something ugly don't go and like get that dirt on your hands like you know protect your heart like that's the one thing that you have like be pure not as in like oh i don't have sex i'm holier than everybody else not like well protect your sexual health but also like really protect your heart because like nobody can ever take that away from you if you have a beautiful heart and that's a million times more important than having a beautiful exterior but i really think that it shines whenever you do and that is a thing that matters as well maybe more than anything else that's great all right max dream thank you so much for sharing your story thank you for having me thank you very much you

Channel: Soft White Underbelly

Views: 879,350

Keywords:

Id: 1s_hOQeq6sQ

Length: 36min 21sec (2181 seconds)

Published: Fri Oct 22 2021