Sex Trafficking Victim interview-Clover

all right clover clover where'd you grow up where are you from originally um i grew up in bethlehem florida right outside of orlando florida and how was your childhood you had both your parents when you were young no i was um i had what they told me that they adopted me these this married couple that uh they they told everyone that that that we knew the story about them calling like charities catholic charities calling in the middle of the night and saying that they had a girl for adoption and they said they had to drive up to mobile alabama where i was adopted through a car window at a monastery because they said that um they might recognize someone in the monastery so they couldn't go inside is what they said but i um at what age was this i was a baby so you don't remember it that uh no i just remember them telling the story so these the parents that raised you they you're saying it wasn't exactly a legal adoption no it wasn't they they took me i was trained as a baby and they took me and they they they grabbed me through the car window and drove back to florida with me when i was a young child how was your childhood with this santa i don't remember much because i was drugged a lot um i would sleep sometimes for 60 hours you know for days and days and nobody nobody woke me up or questioned it um a lot of times i would go with these couples they were very wealthy couples that would come um and pick me up one couple my whole life you know as i was growing up when i was six eight years old 11 years old they would come and and get me and they had a really nice house and the woman would hang out with me a lot but i never talked to the man they offered to send me to school to send me to a school not to live at their house but to live at the school a girls school and they offered to send me to college and the woman who had taken me refused and wouldn't let me see them anymore i never saw them again i remember when i was six years old one night in the middle of the night a couple came and we lived like in a very rural area there was it was dark in the streets and um i remember marilyn that was her name the lady she got me up in the middle of the night and um she's and her husband asked where i was going and she said well she's going to go to disney world with some friends of mine and their daughter and um he said oh that's nice you know so i went out to the car and i got in the car and there was a little boy not a little girl in the car and he was screaming and crying and i i was terrified i didn't know what happened to him he was my age and i i sunk down six i sunk down into the seat you know behind the behind the driver's seat and where you put your feet i sunk down there i was really scared but i remember that she she had drugged me again because i didn't wake up until the lady had me in her arms and she put me in a in a hotel room where there was two big king-sized beds but there was no one else in the room and she she tucked me in and then i remember that i woke up again in their car about five minutes from my house and i said to them i remember saying to them where's him and he said oh well you know he didn't even come with us what about disney world i said it and they said oh well you slept through the whole thing that's what they told me but i knew at that point you know something's up there's no you know we didn't go to disney world but i i to this day i i wonder what happened to that little boy and why he didn't come back with us you know so what other what kind of stuff was going on with this family you think um well the daddy didn't talk much i had a foster sister and they registered her for adoption but she's the only one that got registered for adoption i ended up getting her name and she um she chopped off her own arm to here she had three fingers and they that were left that she hadn't destroyed she cut off her own fingers yes she did she cut off her own arm and her own fingers at like three years old and that's i think that's why they adopted me because she was really smart she knew that they were trafficking her and she mutilated her own body so that they would stop and that she wouldn't be marketable you know i did i didn't know most the whole time that that i was being trafficked but how could i i was just a baby i was just a kid i was drugged you know when i when i went to this outpatient to find out why i couldn't stop doing drugs you know they hypnotized me and they said well you know over the next month things will start coming out memories that you you you won't you will have suppressed or will are going to come out and sure enough they did and it was all about being sexually trafficked as a child what's wild is i grew up i was a cocktail waitress and i was drugged again as a cocktail waitress in my 20s and i woke up in a room full of men must have been about 20 to 30 men i kept i don't know why they left my high heels on and i kept kicking them kicking them with my heels and getting away i was in the roosevelt hotel i'll never forget and i was running from door to door screaming one time i got down to the lobby and in the lobby there were people at the counter and i kept screaming help me help me out and i landed on the floor because i could barely walk because they had pulled my legs so far apart that they they broke the tendons here in my thighs and my legs were totally on they didn't work you know they were mad at me and i woke up again they chloroformed me a few times and i woke up again in like a like a warehouse and there was a fellow taking my head and trying to smash it against the cement floor i think it was trying to kill me pretty sure he was and i knew it and um i don't know if you watch montel williams but i watch it a few times in it he says when if you were in a situation like that to talk to your abductor about your name and your children and or your family and then that's what i did i started talking to him about please don't kill me you know i have two sons you know and i started describing my sons and how old they were at the time and the guy just for a minute he let me go it was so scary i'll never forget because his eyes were black and then they changed color to like a normal he started looking like a normal person for a minute and he got off me and he walked over to the door and he opened it up and i remember i just got up and i was running out the door and i don't know if he snapped back into killer mode but he was trying to grab me and thank god you know it was the middle of the night there weren't many cars here in l.a but a a taxi was going down the street and um he stopped and picked me up and i remember a few miles down the road i told him look you know i've just been raped and abducted i said i don't i don't have any money on me and this bastard he says you know just get out of my cab i just got all mad drew me out of the cabin i remember i was on the sidewalk down franklin and i couldn't stand up my legs weren't working so i i was scared that the people that did it to me i i was scared that they would hurt my kids so i didn't go to the authorities about it you know so you moved you moved to l.a at some point i did yeah how old were you when you moved here 19 19. drug drug started for you at what age about 16 but i mean my whole childhood i'd been given drugs it was she threw me out when i was 16 because i wasn't no longer useful to her you know she gambled all the money away that she made trafficking me it's weird how in the 70s you know the people would switch babies like that and steal babies from people who were born from somebody famous it turned out that my dad is a famous guitar player i can't i probably should can't tell you who but yeah so pretty much they will sell people's kids who are if they can get them you know who are like government officials or famous people how is this kind of abuse in your childhood affected you as an adult well i can't stop doing drugs that's for sure what's your drug today fentanyl which started with heroin problem yeah 20 years ago and then fentanyl you smoke it or inject it i muscle it so inject yeah where do you stay now i have i bought an rv you know a really cheap one of course it's a 73 and it's 20 foot and i've been traveling down the from pretty much below san diego up through california i go up into the redwoods i like to travel the coast to california yeah and i go fishing yes i find it serene yeah i like to be alone a lot it's not surprising well me and my cat really kind of travel around which is not easy when you're a drug addict because you have to um you have to go to some pretty seedy places because it's not like there's a dealer that you know in every city right so you have to like know where to go like the homeless camps and that's how i need like a lot of people homeless people and things like that how do you support yourself now well i mean kobe just happened so there was edd i was a cocktail waitress in l.a for probably 30 years i've been in six horror movies drove my movie as an actress i've been in three music videos here in l.a and do you do sex work to support yourself well i have yeah and dominatrix work which was pretty interesting i had a girlfriend that got me into into that and um i was a guy who worships my feet i try not to do i i don't very often do penetration i'm bothered by it i find myself very sexually bothered by anything sexual it's probably because when when i was a child what happened to me have you been in love before have you been in love before have you been in love before in love that's what i thought you asked i don't think i have no no i don't know what that is i think when i when i had my sons that's as close as things i've ever felt to like real love is then and what they gave to me because my life i never had that you know it was the man ignored me in the household he turned out to come out of the closet as gay which was crazy and marilyn the the the woman she hated my god she hated me she was very abusive as far as verbally she would tell my girlfriends that i grew up with my my kid friends and their parents she would say well i have a friend who's psychic and and she said this in front of everybody she could and they're saying that you know laurie what's the name i got i don't use it but that laurie here is gonna be a prostitute when she grows up with what they told me and i told i keep trying to tell lori and i'm like seven years old 12 years old and she's saying right in front of me saying i keep telling her if she's going to be a prostitute that she should do it in las vegas because then it's gonna be legal for her there i don't know if this made her feel better you know about what she was doing to me but some of my girlfriend's parents were like they felt really bad really sorry for me and they would hide me i got to stay at their house you know for a while there were parents who just were appalled by her behavior towards me yeah it's kind of a rude thing to say a little kid you know tell me about your children my sons i have a well i have these 20 now my eldest and my youngest is 17. did you raise them yes yeah they live with their dads though i didn't believe that it disturbs me that men end up seeing their kids every two weeks on the weekends and uh women are pulling out their hair trying to raise these kids you know with the house and alimony and child support and the pool boy you know on the couch um it was never what i wanted so i told them before i ever even gave birth both of their dads i said you know well you're gonna raise the kid right i'll give you custody if you if you make i can't pay child support but i'd like to be the one to seize my kids whenever i can and whenever i want to because it's just i'm not the same lifestyle as most people and they agreed and they're both very good dads my my youngest studies the pommel horse and my oldest is in college in portland they're good boys they never touch drugs they might see this i don't know but if they do you probably still couldn't convince them that i do drugs because i never i never did in front of them my youngest got a big argument with her stepmother about it she does not i've never seen her do drugs my mom he was totally sticking up for me i'm like but that's important to me not to let them see it but they still are hopefully they're it's rebellion but neither one of them will touch anything like that pretty proud of them that's great yeah i'm lucky with that dude what do you what do you think about having a childhood as traumatic as yours i mean how it reshapes your adult life well it's made me the type of person who would never hurt anybody you know i don't know it's made me very sexually repressed i know that is that the word repressed so you're you're more sexual or afraid of i was more sexual when i was little which is really strange i really was very sexually open when i was little i was very attracted to men older men now not so much anymore no i don't even know i prefer to just be by myself at night and read a book to tell you the truth me and the cat i don't i mean i had growing up in my 20s i had quite a few enjoyable you know boyfriends and things like that but now i'm 51 and i don't i prefer to be by myself i don't expect to have a relationship or a boyfriend again ever are you lonely no no what emotions do you deal with do you get depressed or do you yeah you do but it's empty you know what i mean like i'm i'm very i study science a lot and a very scientific mind so when i have an emotion i study it in myself and i want to know where the root comes from but when i get depressed like it's sadness i can't pinpoint it you know what i mean i can't find it where it comes from where the roots are you know i would like to know you know there was a time when i stopped doing drugs and i taught yoga for a few years but it i don't know about anybody who studied yoga but it's like doing drugs anyway you do it and then like an hour later like whoa you know you see things and stuff have you experienced love you think maybe with your sons yes yeah very much still do they're very loving but outside of outside of your children no i find that sometimes strangers are even kinder to me but sometimes not i had this this gentleman that approached me and wanted to have a drink with me as a friend he gave me a lot of money and he never like tried to touch me that i could tell for seven years we were friends sometimes he would stay the night at my house things like that when i lost my house he offered to let me stay with him for a while and stayed with him for a while well guess what this was just recently about a year ago when i bought the rv i bought it to run away from this guy because he was drugging me the whole time and he he ended up putting there are a lot of them left i had some that were life-threatening surgically removed their needles tattoo needles some of them body piercing needles some of them intervenous needle tips long ones and there are over a hundred shoved deep inside of my muscles here on my legs here on my arms and one or two in the roof of my mouth here that she's only taken one out one over here next to my neck that they removed because it was gonna it was poking into my neck um i've been kind of waiting for kobit to be over to be able to go and just get them all taken out you know but it's gonna take a lot of surgery you know and i'll be i'll have to be in the hospital for a long time and um but it's very painful they migrate a lot of them have migrated these migrated to the surface yeah i saw those scars on your shoulder yeah these are all from that yeah they're from needles under your skin under they're shoved deep and the only place that he could get him you know because i had i'm very tiny so the muscle structure here he had them buried in there but they came out and in here and they kind of coming out here very very painful and here and here a lot of them in here i think it's pretty messed up the the ones in the roof of my mouth that's pretty cruel i see like when i look over to the side there's a light that goes on and off in my in my in my eye it's the same it's like a flash when i look over a certain way or my head turns a certain way it's caused the the eye to so it must have hit the eye somehow i don't know if you know i've been kind of a little afraid you know to check out where else he put them yeah you seem very down to earth and well adjusted for someone who's been through what you've been through yeah yeah i'm afraid to ask what's the most important lesson you've learned in your life i don't know i guess i'm really scared people i am deep down inside i'm terrified of them that's why i guess i'm such a loner and i don't trust anybody i mean the guy who i woke up at the roosevelt the only reason i went with him is because i knew him for seven years he was my ex-husband's dealer dealt in vicodin pills for that seven years and i knew him and i never thought that that he would do something to hurt me but that really wasn't the case they they were gonna kill me that night when i called that guy a few days later the phone dropped he got just he was couldn't believe it was me because he couldn't believe i was alive a lot of people in the world you know that are so messed up that nobody wants to nobody wants to see that or believe that it's going on out there but it does it really does people to do some pretty messed up things out there to other people in my heart i never found that i could i can't wrap my head around somebody being like that but it's going on so i guess you know i guess i just i really learned never to trust anyone i guess that's why i don't think i've ever loved because some people will use that and pretend like they love you just to get close enough to hurt you really bad all right clover thank you so much for sharing your story yeah thanks for listening yes i wish you a happy summer in your rv travels yeah with your cat yeah kujo it's like mini saint bernard it's a cat or a dog a cat but it's not a cat

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Reddit Comments

[u/Uhhlaneuh]

This woman’s adoptive family trafficked her out as a child. Probably the worst story I’ve ever heard.

[u/HellCat-5698]

Oh my fucking god

I know it’s not true but it really does feel like some people are born to suffer sometimes … this poor woman

[u/Anomalous-Justice]

Have you all seen all the others by this producer? There are so many, even more upsetting than this.