Half in the Bag: The Fanatic

- the bag I can't talk too long I got a poo I'm on movie diaper calm I'm trying to see what new films have been released Jay to see what we should go watch this afternoon how about the new Rambo movie hmm no I hear that movie makes you racist oh well at least in a couple of weeks we have the Joker movie to look forward to no I hear that movie makes you sexist now well maybe we should just watch the fanatic with John Travolta sure but I hear that movie makes you mentally challenged too late well Jay before we go watch this film let's see the Rotten Tomatoes squirrel oh my god is it difficult to find famous people's houses I used my star map that you have to be careful I don't want you to be accused of stalking hey you can't just come to my private residence looking for me well today we we skipped the new Brad Pitt film at Astra and Asner add as an art so is it a Brad Pitt as it hasn't it's a biopic okay Ed Asner as a younger man he did it as an ER did go to the Mars though and his dreams once so this is based on a dad Astros based on Ed as in his dream of going to Mars oh okay I got to scream once so we skipped ad astra to watch a film an obscure film for some reason called the fanatic yes yes watch out and this is a film that's produced by red box yes because every every outlet has to like produce their own original content now even red box even the bottom of the barrel a little red machine that you look at when you're leaving the grocery store yeah but interestingly enough it's not out in red box yet no think that would be the first place that should go well I I guess John Travolta had a stipulation similar to his movie Gotti that came out that was produced by movie pass which recently died which I was shocked to find out it was still around but it that was produced by movie past but he was like it's got to be in theaters I think it's that like old-school movie star ego thing where he wanted that movie and this movie to be in theaters for a little bit before being dumped so it came out in theaters the fanatic did the fanatic came on theatres opening day it made $3,000 I had played on fifty-two screens which was an average of about $60 per theater Wow space cops made money that's true it literally is true [Music] oh well that's interesting I did not know it had a theatrical run I figured a two screens one in New York and one in LA and then just so we could get some awards so it could be considered for an Academy Award absolutely um John Travolta you know he has a specific pattern of release he's a movie star I don't know that excuses the other 15 movies he's done in the last two years John Travolta is the Nic Cage of actors but yeah we are not we were this is not a paid endorsement of this film even that'll become more clear as time goes on so soon fine but we just really wanted to talk about this because it's fascinating when you see those like that I think there's a different Travolta movie in the red box called trading paint yes and that you see you see these like kind of I don't wanna say washed-up these celebrities that have been around a while appearing in in lower budgeted movies that are made to look like big-budget movies in a red box that often maids overseas often made overseas or Spain or France and then yeah John Travolta Nicolas Cage does a lot of home or some other ones showing up in these things john cusack yeah you know so it's like they're not a listers anymore but they work yeah this one particularly tickled our fancy based on the the portrayal the character moose by by John Travolta we don't want to use the r-word regal because his performance was was stunning there's there's he plays a mentally challenged person and there there seems to be is there's something about the ego of these actors like as so many of them have tried to do that where it just comes across embarrassing speaking of that this is the perfect time to show some Rosie O'Donnell well as Robert Downey jr. told us in blackface never go full region travel toe wearing it the worst toupee ever clearly a toupee but it's meant to look like a bad regal haircut it's kind of a moment and it's shaved on the sides it's amazing and he's wearing a Hawaiian shirt every scene you know though like I found his performance mesmerizing well that's what it was really good legitimately good yeah I just have a strawberry milkshake with real ice cream please yeah we don't we don't have milkshakes but I can make you a cocktail or pour you a soda no thanks just want a shake this is the most shocking thing I've ever heard III mean okay we're gonna talk we've set up our film we should mention that's directed by Fred Durst the former singer of Limp Bizkit yeah and that's the thing is like see I'm kind of on the opposite end where I do I think John Travolta is embarrassing in this movie the rest of the movie like it's it's people are saying it's the worst thing ever it's not that bad it looks pretty good like visually no it's not a good movie but it's like whatever it's it's very surface level as far as what it's trying to say about like fans and their relationship with celebrities and all that it's it's so service level but it's like an acceptable enough movie but then you drop John Travolta's performance in it and that's what elevates the entire thing elevates it to what comically bad a comical Cola yeah see I found John Travolta and even devon Sawa I thought he was great in that he was very good in the movie um and I thought the performances stood out as being good in a movie that was you know well shot well lit well executed in a way but had lots of like logic flaws yeah oh yeah the script is has bizarre choices it's not a movie that you watched and just laughed the whole time because how bad it is now it's a fascinating movie it it it draws you in and it has it and it has this like power over you that you have to keep watching it sure I thought John Travolta nailed it and not you know but what is it it was hysterical and not in oh I'm laughing at him embarrassing himself or way and this is I think where we're gonna disagree yes so I really enjoyed his performance as a person who is I don't know barely on the spectrum and falling off the edge perhaps whatever that means you know what I mean like well what is it Asperger's or whatever he's supposed to have in those there is something clearly wrong with him and to the point where he can barely function in society yeah and he should be institutionalized I think the disconnect comes from maybe maybe if this character was in like a real movie it'd be different but as it stands on this movie like it's like almost whatever he decided to do as an actor like Fred Durst was just like okay and it felt almost to me it felt like like the whole movie was made as like a prank on John Travolta to embarrass him there's that part when he breaks into Devon Sawa's house and he's just wandering around and the camera just holds on him and for some reason there's like antlers there what so it goes on and on there are moments where you can tell Travolta was allowed to improv and and as we've probably discussed before most actors are crazy and they love themselves and when you let them just loose it leads to disaster there's one part where he's like John Travolta is improv and it's a pleasure to meet you mr. Dunbar I have every one of your VHS and DVDs that's like everybody says that say sums what I think it goes like say something Stas duh and then they cut the camera and you know he was gonna say say something stupid yeah systems what I'm like you know that that was coming out and he stopped himself from saying it but they left it in the movie it was weird see I didn't notice that particular one but there's another part where his paparazzi friend who looks like a teenager and who also narrates the film for no reason there was a post-production choice but it you don't need it she's narrating the film one she's not a lead in the movie there's no reason for that particular character to be narrating it but also all she's saying is exactly what we're seeing because the movies not very deep it's like oh we get it fans can become obsessed and develop a parasocial relationship that's her little voice over things were so like hitting you over the head yeah this place will suck the life right out of you some people pick themselves up after getting the shit knocked out of them others break down like an old station wagon but there's a part when she comes over to his house and she says something about like you're acting like a maniac maniac there's a great movie not the crappy remake that was overrated but then as he's walking away he continues that he's like the remake is the good one it's like you just contradicted yourself maniac that's a great movie not the crappy remake that was overrated it's a new one I don't change the subject and it's just in the movie no second takes he's not a god he's full of doodoo he doesn't respect Hollywood I respect Hollywood moose who rides a moped around Hollywood and he humps his moped when I was riding it well he never stops doing this whole movie he does the rocking thing because that's what crazy people do that's a is that offensive though is that is that a crazy thing or is that a he's autistic thing or he's mentally challenged thing not sure in this movie it's all one thing this Forrest Gump meets taxi driver sure what his choices are are just based on things that have happened in other movies yeah the Rain Man tick he's always grabbing his ear that's like a thing the the rocking back and forth is pretty typical of I'm going to portray a person who's I don't know has something wrong with them you've you you snap mentally from stress or you have a mental breakdown you do you rock right that's always in movies yeah show a mental institution everybody knows that what it's from what it's attributed to I don't know but that's what he does so he has a friend a girl who looks like she could play a high schooler yes who is uh paparazzi she's friends with moose for some reason how are you guys fine celebrity houses how do you find them I think I think the the the general premise is that the people that work in the underbelly of the Hollywood scene whether it's the tourism part or the celebrity part all kind of are interconnected and know each other whether it's the guy in the shop who sells merchandise or you know props and signed posters or whatever others that guy yeah there's the street performer guy who runs a con with his friend or they pickpocket moose John Travolta dresses up as an English Bobby it this goes into my theory that the movie was made to ridicule John Travolta the English Bobby stuff was just bizarre well I'm assuming it's based more on the fact because Hollywood Boulevard you have all the people with spider-man costumes and Captain America and Captain Jack Sparrow you don't have an English Bobby and it's like well we don't have the rights to any of this stuff he's an English Bobby and that particular decision is they filmed I think it might even be done guerilla style because most of the movie was not shot in Hollywood but those particular sequences are on Hollywood Boulevard and he's doing this embarrassing English accent he's practicing in the mirror which is I've had that stuck in my head since I saw the movie like a week ago or he keeps going poppycock poppycock happy cock there's no there's no it's it's pathetic there's no fun to it yeah like if he was like a spider-man say right it would have some kind of like levity to it it would be interesting I know there was a lot of levity to him it's the English Bobby but but I mean in a way where it's like everyone kept walking past him and he in it's pathetic because he chose such an undesirable character you're in Hollywood and you're playing like an English police officer yeah with a nightstick and the goofy hat don't do bridges walk over the Beatles are here and that's like no one wants a picture with that that they want a picture with the Marilyn Monroe character or you know someone dressed up is like or they're mesmerized by the magician guy I guess yes or you know Charlie Chaplin or icons of Hollywood he that has something any so it's like he's like he doesn't get it and then he's trying to do the accent Jackson's bad internally oh sure that that's definitely intentionally bad but it's still yeah it's weird and it's and it's like the the thing to me is like with his awful haircut and his in his weird mannerisms and his outfits and his socks pulled up and it he seems like a real crazy person who could really exist and would be who would do that in real life and to me knowing that that kind of person is out there know on the streets and not in a mental institution is really sad but it's but see that's the thing is I think this will be forgettable because to me it's not laughably bad it's not Rosie O'Donnell bad no well and that's the thing too that I wanted to bring up is every year if there's like that one or two movies that comes out that the internet kind of like collectively tries to make like the new best worst movie yeah like you remember nine lives the talking cat movie with Kevin Spacey that came out a few years ago no one remembers that movie but at the time it came out oh man this is the new terrible movie and people have been trying to do that with this movie and I think it's it's not that bad I think John Travolta is what makes it fascinating but it's also not a very good movie so I think it's I think it's a unique movie in certain respects John Travolta's performance and some of the weird choices yeah narrative choices that we'll get into I guess remember there was a movie that that also I think I think it's the trailer to where you watch it and you go what the fuck I remember after Mel Gibson said horrible anti-semitic things and beat up a police officer or something shortly after that he came out in a movie directed by Jodie Foster oh the beaver yeah he puppeteered a beaver right an average so beaver he talks to a beaver and then the movies like the sappy drama and nobody saw how it's gone forever hey so this is probably in that category but this movie's worth a watch as a good like study of of how things can go right and wrong because to me there was many things right in it and there were many things wrong and it was fascinating and and very watchable some of the choices are weird yeah and and it wasn't Fred Durst's directing Fred Durst appears to be a fine director he also wrote it too he co-wrote it yeah a story by Fred Durst okay write and screenplay by Fred Durst and some other guy so Fred Durst kind of said who have him say this line and the other guy structured it and wrote whose idea was it to have them talk about how awesome Limp Bizkit is [Music] I used to listen went back in two days nice not sure about that I have to do some research on okay okay the part where or where devon Sawa plays limp Biskit yeah tells his son about how awesome limp Biskit was back in the day yeah I'm not sure if that may have been Fred Durst I have to do some research okay I'd love to do ought to do a really deep dive into the into the lore behind this film yes yes I have a feeling it was Fred Johnson the the the boom operator no Fred Fred Fred Fred Johnson he's a good boom operator and he loves Limp Bizkit well speaking of the technical aspects of this movie I was shocked it got to the end credits and it said cinematography by Conrad hall and I was like that name sounds familiar I think he worked on like David Fincher movies and so I looked him up and I made the most shocking discovery of my entire life yeah which is that Conrad there is a Conrad hall that worked on David Fincher movies but there is another Conrad Hall there's two cinematographers that are both working right now that are both named Conrad Hall oh one of them was the cinematographer for American Beauty and the other was the second unit photographer for American Beauty both Conrad halls worked on American Beauty I always had a shot of Conrad Hall walking at her well the cinematography like the look of the movie is great there's some nice shots like towards the ends does a shot where John Travolta's trying to escape Devon Sawa's house and he's like on the ground and he's kind of silhouetted by the doors like it was a pretty good-looking movie you well I think it's about time to get into spoilers so if you've enjoyed our discussion so far and go watch fanatic watch the film and see what what site of the the John Travolta divide you land on yeah not the fan a movie with Robert De Niro not dare fan a weird German movie about a musician that gets chopped up by a girl but now we're going to talk about the plot John Travolta is obsessed with devon Sawa there's the plot it's a very repetitive it's like scene where John Travolta tries to interact with him and devon Sawa tells him to fuck off you say repetitive I say building tension his first encounter well first encounter is a non encounter yes his his paparazzi friend who looks about as old as John Travolta's great-great-granddaughter who was hanging out with a man who is nearly 70 years old yeah clearly and doesn't doesn't act like he's odd at all it's very weird and and looks like he could snap at any moment and needs to be institutionalized but she thinks he's his warm and cuddly friend yes or her warm and cuddly friend so she is working this like red carpet thing at a wrap party for a movie that Devin saw was was in yeah and she sneaks moose in oh my god moose are you okay because she's working the gig by helping Hayley that's worth possibly losing your job it's worth losing her job letting a man in who looks and acts crazy and who could possibly be dangerous she helps him hop a fence and sneak into the party so he can get an autograph she is extremely naive yes so he goes in there he tries to find Devin saw he's not there stop stop it I came here to see what your dumb bar the yeah ii encountered devon Sawa aka a hunter Dunbar Hunter Dunbar where the movie opens with a quote from him which is a weird choice - it is a weird choice they did whatever they couldn't post-production to save this movie the the voiceover from the girl is a post-production choice to save it to make it more artsy and so is the the animated oh yeah there's like sketchy interesting yeah which are kind of cool-looking I like those yeah that they did it to add it add some artistic flair to it to make it look like more of an art art films distract you from the fact that the movie has almost no plot right so he tries to get his autograph he tries to get him sign a jacket he's that like a comic book kind of store like a movie memorabilia signing his book John Travolta is next in line hunter Dunbar has to leave and then he has problems with his ex-wife his ex-wife yes we get a little intro introduction of that VAX wife and the son and and then they first meets mr. space vampires have an ice on your face with my fucking fist that's a collector's item you're not gonna want to take home trust me desert this is I think a movie mistake - I think that's the problem with this movie is that it comes across like the theme of the movie I guess is that like everybody's shitty I don't know what this movie was trying to say like if the movie started out with devon Sawa being like just a good guy you know maybe he's a little too nice and that's what hooks moose into wanting to get more and more involved with his life but like the first thing he says it's like I'm gonna punch you in the fucking face John Travolta so he's like an asshole from the beginning and that never changes yeah if they were commenting on the pair of social relationship then yes you're right devon Sawa should have been more like hey buddy yeah sure I'll sign that and then that leads him to want more and more or which is a plot that's been done before but at least it makes sense it makes sense yeah and based on the ending Devin Sawa's turn at the end would have made a different angle to it yeah oh yeah what I've been more impactful when I starts stabbing John Travolta in the eye so he shows up at Hunter's house again has a fight with them same scene basically same scene based away and then it just continues to escalate and we don't want to just explain the movie but he gets into the night of his house I think he comes back again he gets inside the house he comes back again he fucks around while demonsaw was sleeping in his chair watching Night of the Living Dead right night of living dead is in the flashback when when moose is a child we we get a 10-second flash back to when moose was like maybe ten years old and he's watching Night of the Living Dead on TV and in the background we see his mother who's I don't know being flirtatious with a gentleman caller he's being neglected and that's the only flashback we get that's the only and it's it's identical to a flashback in the Cable Guy with Jim Carrey so it's a similar scene in and it looks like he's just a regular kid it doesn't seem like he has any problems right so I think they're they're suggesting that because of parental neglect and over stimulation of watching movies by himself that's what turned him into a socially awkward adult and that's the confusing thing too is like Devin saw was an asshole John Travolta is a lunatic but making him have like mental problems are we supposed to sympathize with him that's any you don't of course because he's terrifying you are or hysterical depends on how you look at it but but that's the thing it's like you don't like either character and then by the end of this movie where devon Sawa like blows his fingers off and like it's like pathetic when he's like stabbed and John Travolta's like crying on the granola I know and I'm like what am I supposed to be feeling here I had no clue I sympathize more with devon Sawa because I'm just like okay sure you know he's kind of pompous he's an asshole he cheated on his wife with the maid yeah this is it's alluded to that that's probably what broke up their marriage but he does didn't want crazy John Travolta coming near his house yes I get it got it um and then John Travolta I think is supposed to be portrayed as loveable you're in what is your takeaway it's like who is the hero and who is the villain we don't know so it's kind of like Martin Scorsese's king of comedy I want you out of here now it's that plain enough I understand is that clear yeah yeah Jerry I said look well you're tired that's okay I'm gonna leave this stuff here okay read it to Lygia and let me know what you think Robert don't be so don't be usually is a man's telling us to go he is not telling us to go will you stop that mr. lankford I just want youto shoes Roger Robert De Niro's character he's a little too obsessed with Jerry Lewis the Jerry Lewis is also kind of an asshole but there is a very clear like humanity to both of them that this movie doesn't have with either of them yeah no I mean yeah that's a problem well sure but but I like that ambiguity of like because I felt that both of these characters could have been real people it would have been more satisfying from a film perspective to where there was clear lines of definition where Devon saw was a nice guy and how it was his own fault that he lured in this crazy person by being a little too open with him and then open now we got to draw the line oh god he's coming into my house and we clearly said with sympathize with hunter Dunbar but I think the movie was was trying to make John Travolta lovable even though he clearly crossed the line many times when you find the cookie jar it's hard to not go back for more it's true but I suppose when you find the cookie jar it's hard to not go back from more devon Sawa it lives alone in his Hollywood mansion and there is a maid there and the maid is scared because she sees John Travolta running around their property later on the maid confronts John Travolta on the property and he kills her oh my gosh are you okay and then for 45 minutes it's never brought up again yeah and that was a big flaw because the movie expected you to forget about it it's all I could think about after a while it was when demonsaw was tied to the bed is like what about the fucking maid it's such an impactful moment the audience cannot forget about yeah and I thought John moose just murdered somebody they also introduced a gardener character and he's like you know can I leave it's raining you know so reassume he won't be back for a couple days so they introduced him because he's the one who finds the body but it would like the body is just laying there in in broad daylight for days and you could probably see it from his window like I don't know so it if moose had dragged the body into the bushes and kind of concealed it a little yeah that would have been a good choice in the movie because then as an audience we would have like let it go a little yeah but really you're like what about the maid well maybe every once in a while we cut to an exterior and you see those legs stay now Italian or something to keep reminding you yes that's fine I mean if we forget about it that's great because it comes back as a surprise at the end but the way they handled it we could not forget about the maid the maid is lying there dead nobody finds her for days yeah and another like that's the thing with this movie is like there's all these great little ideas all over the place that I like but all these screws are not quite tightened and I just want to go in and kind of fix them it's like that the the photographer character should have been didn't really need to be a photographer character it should have been his adult daughter checks in on him and says you know dr. so-and-so says you're doing okay as long as you keep taking your pills yeah giving us real clear like lines of what's wrong with him sure or the photographer character could be more like instead of that paparazzi person could just be another weirdo fan that takes things too far that's I guess that's kind of that's exactly sander Bernhardt and king of comedy that's what it feels like like some of that's helping him break into events and stuff like doesn't feel like something that a professional like a photographer working in the industry would say who is it feels like something that another weirdo fan would do yeah but a weirdo fan who knows where the line is yeah I am NOT a stalker I am a fan Leah his obsession with with devon Sawa the nature of it is it not quite clear whether it's sexual in nature plutonic or jealousy the characters are stagnant yeah they're not dynamic characters they don't they don't really change Devin saw was an asshole from the beginning and then Travolta's crazy from the beginning yeah and and the the the intensity of the interaction increases from scuffle in the alley to get away from my gate to get the fuck out of my house that it escalates but the nature of the characters don't really change yeah and I don't know if that's close to King of Comedy where you know yeah but like you said if John Travolta was just kind of like a normal guy who like movies and stuff like that and then got worse and worse and worse and worse yeah as hunter Dunbar was more open then he becomes closed and then they both kind of yeah and escalates to some kind of dramatic conclusion thinking the comedic version is do you remember what about Bob yeah I'm not kind of what happens in that movie yeah yeah is this some radical new therapy what about Bob rated PG it was very comical when Devon saw was tied to the bed I think he gets loose I don't remember specifically what happens but he has a shotgun like above his bed but he the way it's framed he just sort of reaches above frame and pulls the gun down and looked like a naked gun gag yeah but was that established in a master shot or something I don't think so I think he just reaches up and put down the gun thinking the shotgun came out of nowhere yeah but I think that's the idea is that's supposed to be above like his headboard yeah so John Travolta ties him to the bed you know misery style Kathy Bates wants to smash James Caan's legs well she beat well she doesn't wanted to leave so he can finish it so further keep him a mobile so he could finish his book right got it does John Travolta want to have sex with him at one point he berates him about easily you should be better dad you should have ice cream in your fridge for your son yeah and then the next minute he's like even though he's a fan of him as an actor then he starts berating him about acting I could do I could be an actor right and I was like I don't know what he wants then he comes out in a Jason costume videos full Jason Voorhees and stabs him pretends to stab him and then says you you were no Jamie Lee Curtis or something yeah that's like oh that's the wrong movie do people still put on hockey masks and try to scare you it's a wrong movie baby right but do people ever do that what Michael Mayer oh he pulled on the mash demonsaw oh then then interestingly instead of just saying I'm a fool componentry fuckin FUBU he he appeals to him he talks to him like he you know he wants to be his friend and all he convinces John Travolta to untie him well he says he's gonna sign autographs for him yeah I will sign whatever you want whenever you want for me for a real fan you sign for me and it's like is that the entire thing did John Travolta just want autographs because that's kind of where it starts and there's a bizarre creative decision here where like the camera is like this purple tint to it that's the fantasy yellow that's where again feels like it's supposed to be romantic or something but then yeah devon Sawa gets both of his arms free and then shoots a shotgun so in the magical shotgun comes out of nowhere and blows John Travolta's fingers our John Travolta runs away falls down stairs the hunter Dunbar gets all of his ropes off and then he starts like shooting at him to scare him yeah well he has like his ear rings shotgun blasts and then he takes out a Rambo knife and stabs him in the eye [Music] just a little bit just a little bit the tip not enough to puncture the brain yeah but enough to seriously wound him and then it's like that's what well that's it should be sad because as bad as John Travolta's been it's still like this is a human being but it's again I was laughing [Music] because it's so awkward and confusing I didn't know how to react and then does he just let him go and explicably yeah devon Sawa opens the door John Travolta stumbles out and he closes the door it doesn't call the cops for some reason the next day the cops show up with the gardener who has discovered the body of the maid there is motive for devon Sawa to have killed the maid because presumably she was involved with him in an affair that will cost him his marriage right and then devon Sawa submits to the police with no wait a minute wait wait he doesn't say a word he just accepts the fact that he's being arrested for the murder of someone that he didn't murder I didn't understand any of this but J we don't see what happens when he gives at the police station that's true they read him his Miranda rights he says okay I'm gonna wait at the police station he spills it on the John Travolta I came in my house with the Jason Voorhees bad wig I also the thing too is John Travolta is alive and out there with missing fingers and a stab wound in his eye but yeah then he gets the the fame as a street performer that he's always wanted I guess it's the what's happening there are you talking about the moment where the foreign guy the foreign guys are like oh that's great makeup I'm like what yeah I don't know if that was supposed to be like sad for him like oh no he's really injured help him you know yeah I think it is like cuz yeah he's a you know earlier we see him doing his a poppycock poppycock [Music] poppycock and uh no one's paying attention to him yeah it's implied that he will go on to be a famous street performer because the the the paparazzi girl finds him obvious and him leave yes she's driving by oh my gosh obviously get some medical attention but he can now be a really good pirate street performer because they show they had a cartoon and it has him with a hook hand and he stabbed his eye out so he wears an eyepatch and a hook hand and now he and be a pirate that is shown in a cartoon I don't remember that and and it's it's him and she's behind him and she is like angel oh yeah I remember the wings yeah yeah but he has a pirate hook hand and eye patch because devon Sawa put a Rambo knife inside so now he could be a really fucking good pirate on the Hollywood Walk of Fame he could even show people I'm really missing an eye and make a lot of money and and achieve his dreams of making an adequate living as a Hollywood those people that perform in front of the like the Grauman's Chinese Theater are like homeless people well they would make any money I mean he's he's almost there but now they could be a pirate I guess and and and like real pirates of Ivaldi got away with murder because devon Sawa will not say that he did not murder the maid and he will not tell about the home invasion by a crazy person even though the police probably would have walked around his house and said why are all these ropes on your bed and what is with this puddle of blood on the floor oh yeah and we have social media pictures of a guy in your house while you're asleep you've been using your social media to broadcast criminal activities very easily devon Sawa could convince the police of what what the truth was and very quickly because any character can find any character very easy yeah they just show up everywhere you can very quickly find moose and arrest him it'll be hard putting handcuffs on bizarre movie bizarre choices interesting performances we've just done a deep dive on it other people that have talked about this movie it's just so it's funny bad but it's more interesting than that the mechanics of it are interesting and your choices are interesting whether it's a performance choice or a plot choice it I I follow John Travolta's performance very intriguing I bought his performance as a person with severe mental problems and I enjoyed it it doesn't make me wonder if it was in a completely different movie if it would have a different sort of reaction for me because would the way the rest of this movie operates I found everything he did have hilarious and Fred Durst's Direction wasn't wasn't bad it's fine I think it was the mechanics of the script and and and the story so I'm glad we took this movie and we really analyzed it because it needs it it it's yeah someone just go and watch this movie John Travolta yeah gonna do it he's got this weird hair good to be fair I do think that is a big selling point of the movie it is but to me the performance wasn't like little I'm laughing you know at it it's hard to I mean maybe I just keep thinking of him aside English Bobby maybe from an actor perspective like like you laugh at Rosie O'Donnell we're not awful terrible people we don't laugh at people like that no that's the fact that that actor is trying to pull it off yes and there and and it's a very hard thing to pull off without it coming off as as like I want an award or I'm making this bold choice as an actor I'm taking on this challenge Robert Downey jr. said it best he knew what he was talking about when he wore that black face so I guess we're recommending the movie right a lot of people that watch our show our fans of film film writing construction they watch they watch us talk because they like to hear about a deeper analysis share of a movie and if you like that sort of thing this is a movie to watch based on that yeah not necessarily for entertainment value because as we said a few times so far it's not laughably bad it's not the room right you know it's not a movie like that but it's not a really good movie that that should win awards for this or that yeah but it's it's fairly well done with lots of problems so if you were an aspiring filmmaker or a screenwriter or whatever it's a good movie to watch or if you like watching things like that - it's like watching a moderate train wreck where you're like oh I see how that could have been prevented right yeah that train like Madore instruct ID of - we're kind of smashed it a little and bunch of oranges spilled out on the road yeah yeah it didn't derail the guy who was driving the orange truck he broke his leg yeah yeah it got smashed he broke his hip I'm the Train head over and really that's really kind of neat to look at but but it's not a flaming disastrous wreck sure that's what that's my thoughts on it you seem to laugh more it's specifically a John Travolta the rest of the movie like I said like it's not that bad it's it's just him it's like taking something that shouldn't be in this movie and dropping it in this movie it's a Saturday Night Live skit kind of thing yeah like when you have a celebrity guest on Sur Night Live that's not known for doing comedy I think we brought that up before like when you have like a football player or something you know like you just threw everything off well Suns going down it's almost nighttime time to head out to the Hollywood Boulevard yeah I'm assuming a lot of people don't realize that we moonlight as performers on Hollywood Boulevard yeah you have a picture right oh yeah here [Music]

Channel: RedLetterMedia

Views: 1,203,066

Rating: 4.9266291 out of 5

Keywords: redlettermedia, red letter media, red, letter, media, plinkett, half in the bag, mike stoklasa, jay bauman, rich evans, fanatic, john travolta, fred durst, limp bizkit

Id: feH2sxYGE-w

Length: 45min 34sec (2734 seconds)

Published: Mon Sep 23 2019

Reddit Comments

[u/Davidellias]

"John Travolta is the Nic Cage of actors"

Really dropped the bomb not making a "Face Off" reference there.

[u/Heraclitus94]

We're in a Jon Travolta renissance right now. His last 4 movies are all at 0 on rotten tomatoes!

[u/Anaract]

the Limp Bizkit scene is so hilarious. There are so many clever ways Fred Durst could work his music into the movie: just have it playing in the background unaddressed, or do a self-referential joke where the kid says like "dad this music isn't cool anymore" "son you don't know anything about music". But just making the characters talk about how great your own music is, with no self-awareness whatsoever... it's so amazing

[u/BattleUpSaber]

I'd be ok with every HITB from now on opening with Travolta saying "I gotta poo"

[u/DynamixRo]

Great news, everyone, Space Cop made more than 3K dollars!

[u/MRR1911]

General Info: The cinematographer of this, Conrad Hall, is the son of the other Conrad Hall they mention. The father Conrad is one of the greatest cinematographers ever, and is very very dead

[u/big_boss_nass]

how is this movie real

[u/[deleted]]

Waking up to new rlm is a great feeling

[u/DrDacote]

That Flinstones gag at the end had me in tears