Half in the Bag Episode 134: Thor: Ragnarok

half in the back our love talks movies in my underwear so Jay have you heard the big news no what is it they've decided to change the nickname the casting couch to every piece of furniture in Hollywood doesn't quite have the same ring to it no all right you two I've got some questions for you Oh God is that why we've taken six years to fix your VCR what oh is it why we stole your identity opened up six credit cards maxed them out and then paid them off no oh well then it's gotta be why did we dig up the corpse of your ex-wife and then display her on your porch just so that we could win a neighborhood Halloween decoration contest oh my god wasn't worth it here's a $20 Applebee's gift card worth it I think so no no no I heard you two idiots saw Thor Ragnarok yay well if you two love Marvel movies so much they should be very familiar with them especially your two favorites Thor and Thor - this was the third one yeah I loved Thor one and two they're the most memorable movies in the Marvel Cinematic Universe part with Thor and his hammer and so many memorable characters well I got a few questions for you let's begin shall we all right you two I'm gonna ask you questions about the Thor movies and you're going to answer them well I mean this should be pretty easy we've seen both of them and they are very memorable right right all right then in the prologue to the first film who did the ass Guardians wage war with the Kryptonians I remember the Rainbow Bridge how many realms are there according to Thor 48 I say to somewhere in between 17 lower 14 lower nine correct name any of Thor's friends the Warriors three idris elba there the girl of the girl pass Fandral Volstagg and Hogan who can wield mian lore mule near no it's me ol near mule near who can wield mill near it is a mule near you just made that up wait it's a mill near a person or a thing anyone who was worthy can wield mule deer it's Thor's hammer [ __ ] why is Thor on earth in the first film he gets banished by his dad correct correct what ceremony was interrupted by a minor invasion of frost giants early in the first Thor movie I know this Loki was going to be crowned like the king or something Thor was going to be crowned king what other future Avenger makes his cinematic first appearance in the first Thor movie it's Hawkeye ring yeah that's the one Cena remember I don't remember that at all yeah who are the villains in Thor the dark world there's some sort of like albino elf creatures intergalactic space book can you be more specific than all vital elf creatures what are you look at me they're dark elves in Thor of the dark world what is dr. Jane Foster filled with come come what does Thor's name does that something to do with Loki what is the twist at the end of Thor the dark world that it's a light world Loki is impersonating Odin what oh really how does he look like Sir Anthony Hopkins I think you could just be making stuff up and we wouldn't even know how I remember is space books there's always space bugs Jay always what do the dark elves need the aether for a super weapon that's gonna shoot a blue laser into the sky super weapon No resurrect their evil God King No take over the earth No take over another realm no super weapon No resurrect our God King No we did see these movies right I think so I definitely was in the theater and my eyes were open and I was looking at the screen we were reviewed both of them we did we should go back and watch our reviews so we know what we think of them we're starting to think there's something wrong with our brains mr. blinker fell asleep oh my god ah now we can talk about Thor and three hey kids it's more Marvel movie time Thor Ragnarok is about two hours and 10 minutes long Thor is doing some things gets caught up in some kind of misadventure and then has to stop a bad villain from doing a bad thing next well everybody we're here again to talk about the next film in the series of endless Marvel films called Thor's dysley no what was it called Thor Ragnarok this wasn't Justice League no it wasn't and clearly looked nothing like Justice League J but we're not here to talk about the Justice League we're here to talk about movie 6:23 in the Marvel endless Marvel Cinematic Universe called Thor Ragnarok J what did you think about Thor Ragnarok Wow he's not really down at this movie hey Ron I've run out of steam is it just the Marvel fatigue is completely set in because I'm gonna say I thought this movie was delightful it's a class a case of how important the details in a movie are because when you look at it like the plots and the the just basic elements of what happened in it completely generic we've seen it a million times already but there's so much that it's directed by Taika Waititi who did a hilarious movie called what we do in the shadows which I've seen two times maybe three times I only saw it for the first time a few months ago I've not seen his follow-up movie on October I've not seen his following movie hunt for the wilder people I think it's called no one cares about that yeah what we do in the shadows is a fun fun little vampire foe documentary mockumentary mostly ad-libbed with all those wonderful wonderful New Zealand accents ragnaroks sort of a new cycle in the life of the world all the realms of the universe it's the destruction of the old' and the rebirth of the new that's really exciting to me I expected the movie to be a little more funny it was kind of surprised that yeah it which I kind of liked it was consistently humorous like I was chuckling through most of it it wasn't like Spider Man homecoming where I was just an outright comedy which I think is good I was worried at the very beginning of this movie that it was had the same problem as guardians the galaxy 2 which was every time there's a serious dramatic moment cut it off with a joke I like Irina's the galaxy 2 but that was one of my problems with it that's a trademark James Gunn characteristic yes and at the beginning of this movie the opening scene which I thought was creative and sort of weird and fun it did that a couple of times I was like oh no is this gonna be the whole movie but then it kind of evens out after that it's three minds after that I don't know I like that opening scene the opening of the film Thor is is battling like like the creature at the end of The Lord of the Rings movies the Balrog the Balrog a giant fire monster and oh there's the bit where he's he's hanging from a chain the Balrog is doing is like evil bad guy speech and Thor's turn slowly turning and he's like wait wait wait wait that's that's like chuckle worthy but but it doesn't do that a whole lot it's just kind of consistently light-hearted I don't know it's tricky with these because you want them to take it seriously but not too seriously because their silly comic book movies and I think this one strikes the balance pretty well like let's take it back to the beginning this this idea for Thor Ragnarok comes from a comic book called Planet Hulk sort of which we have here but the story as described by rich was Hulk gets banished he's in space he's fixing a space evil space satellite and then Hulk ends up on this planet he fights in a gladiatorial arena and then eventually he takes over the planet becomes their king and leads an army back to earth to get revenge and it's this really complex storyline and weird and weird so it seems like they just kind of lifted some of the the visual or story elements from it a gladiatorial arena you know alien planet blah blah blah and that really was just setting the stage to move on to villain with doomsday plot you just over here now to prevent Ragnarok the end of everything so I'm putting together a team and I think that's what like I just got tired from and I understand because your your average movie-going fan who's in the theater picking his nose and eating his boogers which did happen by the way while we saw this film I'm gonna talk about that in a minute isn't going to want to watch a story that that's not a bad guy it's not boilerplate it's not familiar to them and and I'm kind of ready for that at this point I'm not saying I have a superhero movie fatigue but I'm gonna be miserable watching the Justice League I might even be miserable watching Star Wars because I just Justice League is gonna be space bugs and bad guy TN and we have to be you have to learn teamwork I feel like the Marvel movies are starting to venture into the weirder stuff maybe eventually we'll get to a point we'll to make something really [ __ ] up like Planet Hulk that doesn't have bad guy has an army and we have to stop them only upon diminishing returns I don't know maybe but it's like with this movie it that's the basic storyline but everything above that it embraces the weirdness more you know it's been in business for a real long time J McDonald's sure that's I mean I'm not gonna say these regard I don't have to say anything more sure I mean that's been said before these are these are cookie cutter movies but they are starting to because when we mentioned you mentioned their review of age of Ultron that was the point with these Marvel movies where it was just like they all felt so bland you know amp man like they all did like they're all fine they're all well-made but they just started to feel very generic see I I like that this movie was it was colorful it was weird it had interesting characters it had a lighter tone Jeff Goldblum they hired him and said just be Jeff Goldblum but you're in a space setting but it wasn't in the movie he was not enough enough that's the problem was that this this film had had a great trailer [Music] that teaser trailer is like the greatest teaser trailer I've ever seen you've got the Led Zeppelin song immigrant song playing and it's like the perfect song and you have all these visuals going on and it's just and it's like and a lot of the stuff that was awesome in the trailer like the slo-mo of although the Valkyries on the flying Pegasus's it's my flashback it's one shot the flashback and then and then it's like oh look at the style look at the visuals this is so weird and great and your song works whoa that's different you know it goes along with your theory you do a weird smart indie film they push you out immediately you're in the $200 movies but then then the the facade crumbles and then you get there's it's like it's like there's the foundation beneath this house made of cool things the house made of cool things crumbles and the foundation is there which is bad guy bad thing doomsday plot gotta stop bad guy learn to work as a team etc because that you that foundation those pillars of concrete that hold up everything else that's what the popcorn munchers and the nose-pickers want and they understand yeah see it's interesting you saying it crumbles under that foundation I would say the movie is elevated because of what it adds on top of that foundation this is a ball pit it's a ball pit in a Burger King lots of colored balls I want to jump in the ball pit and then after a while there's a realize there's a bottom to the ball pit and that all the balls around me are covered in snot and popcorn grease and I just want to get out of the ball pit cuts a fixture of Patrick Stewart and I I'm okay let's just let's just let's just tangent here for a moment okay I think I might be crabby okay I'm crabby Jay why are you crabby Mike um well we Jay and I talked off the record yesterday about a story that broke it was not about sexual assault allegations are there other stories out there there are it was about the Disney Company oh yes basically demanding a higher percentage of box office returns for Star Wars part eight and then also demanding longer runs in their biggest theater houses right which which is fine if you have a multiplex with 38 screens Star Wars is probably gonna last four or five weeks but if you have a little tiny theater with one screen or two it's gonna hurt you and it also is a way to monopolize the market by saying Star Wars is staying here if you want Star Wars it's got to stay here but you can't bring in these other new films that are coming out it's like kind of bullying the market a little because Disney has the muscle to do them and they're the Empire yeah they're the Empire they've altered the deal so my initial thought was ouch don't do that Disney movie theaters are something that's dying and then today I thought let them die only today you thought that it's been boiling up inside me I thought let them die keep the small art house theaters for the niche films here and there because when I go to those it's quiet people are respectful there's a boring-ass movie on the screen that nobody wants to see but myself and a handful of other elderly people keep those running but the multiplexes need to die because one think of all the money you spend any year buying concessions and buying movie tickets you know what you could do with that money you could buy an 80 to 120 inch high-definition 4 or 8k television right think about that let's talk long-term investments here these the people that we're talking about that go to these movies they're not thinking about long-term investments though well I'm gonna lay out a multi-point plan oh so with that money you could buy a gigantic TV in your living room and or a high-speed Internet connection Studios then when star wars the last Jedi for example comes out you want to watch this in your home it's gonna cost you 25 to 50 bucks I know that's a model that I think some studios are working on where you pay through the roof because you're gonna have four or five six people come over to your house and watch it so it ends up being about fifty bucks I'll pay that it's almost like a convenience fee to I would gladly pay more to not have to go to a theater and have people munch popcorn in my ear and make weird noises the group of guys I sat directly next to in this theater one the guy is set directly next to was horribly sick with a cold he was visibly digging into his nose in eating his own boogers and he smelled and he was constantly coughing and munching on food in my [ __ ] ear and also in the hallway leading into the theater someone vomited all over the floor and nobody cleaned it up i I highly I'm just so annoyed because I think I was just distracted the whole time cuz I'm trying not to breathe in this guy's coughing in my face and and I'm just like oh god when is the [ __ ] movie gonna be over so I think that it made a huge dent in my enjoyment of the film and because I was distracted and the guy kept going oh wow uh-oh that's gotta hurt like stop [ __ ] talking internalize I will say it cuz I obviously enjoyed the movie much more than you but when it was on the whatever that planet was Jeff Goldblum's planet really yeah the junk planet he lands it's just junk everywhere that's all the stuff I liked and then occasionally it would cut back to the the villain plotline yeah I'm like yeah right right I was like I just got back to the weird stuff that's that's the stuff I really like I I never felt like the movie got bogged down by it maybe just cuz I really liked Cate Blanchett in it too but it was definitely like they've cut back to Asgard yeah well that's the thing is is when you watch the trailer for it that seemed kind of inverted whereas I think it's like that you get away from Asgard and do it a whole new thing yes it's inverted it's like she's asked God is dead and then this you see like the flames destroy house guard and that's like oh did it and then though that I thought that was gonna be the opening ten minutes of the movie hey Blanche it shows up I am bad lady blow up Oscar and I took over black Thor you're banished banished you to the the junk planet and then Thor the rest of the movie until the last 10 minutes Thor is having adventures on junk planet and fight in gladiatori arenas he teams up with Hulk they take down Jeff Goldblum you know the wacky things happen adventures they have a band of misfit gladiators and they're doing a thing and we discovered Jeff Goldblum is suppressing all these people and all this badge is happening this junk planet and then they go yeah we gotta get back to Asgard to kill Resident Evil or whatever her name is Resident Evil Resident Evil he's okay she's wearing vampire underground vampire assassin what Cate Blanchet Blanchett isn't she an vampire squad what's that [ __ ] movie everybody term of the underworld always that's that's Kate Beckinsale no Cate Blanchett that's how I knew I was want to see her in this too because you think Cate Blanchett and you think of like classy you know classy movies and here she's just like hamming it up well she's alert on the Rings girl yep she's in Lord of the Rings that's that lady that is that lady the whole time it's also been in many many other films I thought it was Kate Beckinsale because she has black hair yes Cate Blanchett does not normally have black hair she does in this movie and she's wearing like all black latex which is like the underworld movies yeah I think a very vaguely can understand your confusion Kate black hair mostly chalk it up to dementia but I can understand just a little bit what you're talking about yeah so so they thought they're gonna go back and knock her deer antlers off okay take her down the stairs and take back Asgard after a wacky fun adventure in the junk planet yeah the tree the trailer really makes it look when I saw the full trailer the teaser trailer is perfect and then the full trailer is like oh so it's guardians of the galaxy and it's not really it the trailer really makes it look like oh this wacky band weirdos they team up to stop an evil threat they kind of do but they all have their own motivation which actually really likes that they all kind of are coming at it from their own anger yes everybody thought you were dead there's so much has happened since I last saw you lost my hammer like yesterday so that's still pretty fresh Loki Loki Loki's alive you believe it he's like he's up there Loki [Applause] tell me is it Jotunheim let me explain to father my father is dead they definitely made his personality mmm less serious than he was in the previous movies from what I can remember he's always just sort of like and that sort of fish-out-of-water stuff that was in the first store I remember some of that and here he's just more lighthearted and jokey it's like I mean I understand why you would want to do that because he's such a [ __ ] boring character but it did it did come across as sort of like oh this is the same guy yeah a little bit he has to be like I think Thor is kind of a wink-wink character now he needs to be more charming and humorous he can't be stoic and serious because then you know you have to derive humor from somewhere unless he has a sidekick it could have been Thor and Bruce Banner the whole time I like this stuff with that it was all good like a bunny cop kind of yeah back and forth like that stuff but Mark Ruffalo wasn't in it enough to make that work it needed like those two like caught in some kind of jail underneath this gladiatori arena like all of that could have just been really really fun yeah one of the best things in the movie is the two of them when he's still the Hulk in there yeah just hang it on that room talking by the same unit I'm just a couple of hotheaded fools yes Hulk like fire door like water kind of both like fire but a whole like raging fire so I like smoldering fire no I think it just focused on I don't say the wrong things but I think it focused on stuff that I wasn't interested in more the generic plot stuff yeah I mean it is a Thor movie so you have to do the Asgard you have to do the he the Odin angle the King Loki the brother family stuff thrown ass guard and the citizens and all that kind of stuff it has to come into play because it's a Thor movie but I was ready to see just an unrelated Thor slash Hulk adventure on a planet that had nothing to do with a skirt get tired while the music briefly scores by Mark Mothersbaugh from Devo and it's the first [ __ ] score in any of these Marvel movies that didn't feel completely generic and forgettable there's a nice little a lot of it is sort of the typical orchestral stuff but then there'd be these nice little flourishes of this sort of cynthy divo ii type stuff and i was like this is great and it elevated like there's a when they're trying to escape to the what do they call it the the Satan's anus or whatever it is all the devil's own the devil's anus there's a nice little spaceship chase sequence there and I was thinking I was so distraught distracted by the music but I was noticing the music but it but instead it was scored with this sort of John Carpenter esque kind of rhythmic pulsating cynthy I know it was like this completely changes the feel of this action scene yeah I mean it's fine action wise I mean you have like a bunch of crazy stuff going on like the Hulk is fighting giant wolf oh yeah and there's that too which we didn't even mention so the weird stuff it's just now now is the time to break away from the bad guy wants to take over now is the time after this to me the weird stuff was in service of bland plot and so like I said opening Kate Kate Blanchet takes over Asgard 80% of the MIL movie is them on the gladiator planet wacky hijinx with Dustin Hoffman sorry confusing that with real life now look wacky hijinx Jeff Goldblum and they're like some kind of like fun they gotta escape the planet a little more cleverly dare to get back to Asgard I mean there was the sequence where they're like we got a steal so-and-so ship it was just like Loki I got the codes and Loki tricked them we knew that was coming they get on the ship and they to kind of have a little fight it kinda reminded me of Star Trek into darkness - flying around the cities and they're jumping then the ship punching people in irons yeah I need more cleverness more cleverness more humor do something funny with Jeff Goldblum he brings out that that vaporizing pain stick oh yeah never comes back yeah I wonder there was more what they need to melt him that's something like they set it's like that was a great little world that and there was only one gladiator fight Hulk fighting the giant wolf in the gladiator arena would have been cool oh it seemed more stuff more crazy stuff that wasn't in service of bad guy wants to be bad premise I kind of made it more like the movie arena have you ever seen that you know late 80s I think I think it's not like one of the last Empire movies but it's it's yeah this aliens battling each other in like a like an arena but I also could have been like the running man where I think they had the collars that would make their heads blow up if they disobeyed or tried to escape and they're all kind of prisoners and they're forced to perform in this like broadcasted TV show and they're all running around I think there was just like a bunch of wacky side characters buzzsaw oh yeah like a chainsaw there's zero and and so like having like the Hulk and Thor like in this kind of like situation with like all these weird super powerful alien prisoners from all over the galaxy like fighting each other you can do the gladiator ring too but you can also do like this and that in fact there was an episode of Star Trek Voyager like that [Music] it was the early career the early acting career I should say of one Dwayne Johnson aka the rock he was on Star Trek he was on Star Trek Voyager 7 of 9 because she's Borg hybrid got kidnapped by this giant spaceship I'm gonna had all these satellite dishes on the top and it transmitted a gladiator arena where he could watch it you know all these distant planets and everyone bet on it and so everyone fought each other in the gladiator arena and seven of nine had fight the rock and he didn't say anything was this pre the Scorpion King oh yeah because they he didn't say a word because they didn't know what the rock was cooking in terms of active [Applause] things insulted me by putting you in the pit to face me I possess superior strength [Applause] [Music] thinking that concepts fun yeah there it's been done before is what the point I'm making I'm not just trying to bring up Star Trek well I mentioned that movie arena I would love to see a big-budget version of arena it's all these weird there's like a big alien slug monster that's trying to battle like a normal human and it's funny if you look at that because there's like a crowd of people in the stands but you can tell that they're all like cardboard cutouts mmm it's super cheap [Music] and the fun part about movies like that which we have mentioned the Star Trek episodes Running Man Arena there's a lot of movies and TV shows that are like that the fun part about those types of stories is taking down the system that you are enslaved in okay it's the outside it's like the [ __ ] is the Russell Crowe movie that movie where he's I think it's a call gladiator with Russell Crowe the Ridley Scott whoo yeah what it's called so your central character who's the outsider who's strong a strong-willed as well who gets thrown into this world and then you have this this maniacal tyrant who's who's deriving pleasure or profit from exploiting others and then the the ultimate goal of that is to take down the system I don't think we ever saw what happened to Jeff Goldblum they just leave and some sort of window and gets a spaceship and leaves because gotta get away from this more intriguing story we got to get back to Asgard the Stiles cate blanchett from doing the things that go over the universe do you not I mean and that there therein lies my main problem with the movie is it just seemed like it was constantly pulling away from from what could have been wacky and interesting and funny and ad-lib II and Bruce Banner running down a hallway like being chased by like this big worm gloom audience cheering and then Thor yelling turn into the Hulk turn into the huh and Jeff Goldblum like eating grapes and Bruce banners like [ __ ] his pants and then you know Muenster goddess of death so why would you recommend thor ragnarok I would after your rants no it's it's again like a mild recommendation for me recommend it on a home video or streaming my my crusade to end theater chain industry has begun right all down burn it all down Hollywood burn Hollywood burn well J would you recommend thor ragnarok I would a little more enthusiastically than you I I'm hoping that we get away from the villain of the week stuff I think we've had enough of it we didn't need it and Deadpool we didn't need it and Logan there's that new the New Mutants movie that's coming out it's like a straight-up horror film so I like that we're taking the stuff in different directions I guess with something like Thor it's a little bit one of their like flagpole movies you have to kind of stick to that but we'll see where they go I overall though I liked the humor and I liked the the tone of this movie a lot just needs more Jeff Goldblum what doesn't well Mike I suppose we should move back to our regular chairs before somebody leaves a comment that we're sitting on opposite sides because I doubt anybody has done that yet I'm sure they'll wait till after the video is completely done before leaving a comment like is Jay sitting on the left replacing Mike sitting on the left's right is Jay replacing Mike and is Mike replacing Jay I'm sure nobody has left that common because they've seen that people have already made those comments so much in the past that they're like oh it's been done so I won't say it so let's switch back before we get to the ending bit that we already shot okay all right this is much better [Music]

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Length: 33min 43sec (2023 seconds)

Published: Sun Nov 05 2017

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Oh God, you fucks actually sent them copies of Vampire Assassin.

They’re everywhere...

[u/ChuckCarmichael]

Mike mentions Star Trek: ✔✔

[u/jonnemesis]

Unfortunately their expectations for super villains won't come true considering Black Panther will once again have a villain that is an evil version of the protagonist.

[u/Raduev]

What the fuck happened to the gay wedding storyline? I demand a conclusion.

[u/BionicTriforce]

Oh my god another trivia contest, I love it.

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Very disappointed neither of them got around to seeing Hunt for the Wilderpeople. Jay would love the way it uses humour, Mike would love the accents.

[u/bjkman]

"What is Dr. Jane Foster Filled With... Cum."

[u/flycounter]

So fucking pissed they never said "Thor: Ragnarschlock"

[u/ageoftesla]

In fact, there was an episode of Star Trek Voyager like that

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