Debt Collector interview-Scarface

i'm sorry what's your name scarface scotty's what they call me they call you scarface yes tell me about this car um macarthur park uh um a dude i knew we had some words back and forth i called him a punk and a lame i turned my back to him he stabbed me in the face with a five inch blade i had 76 staples in my face my cheek was hanging off like this losing a lot of blood um i was on west lake behind macarthur park so i didn't walk through the um the uh the train station directly to the cops i didn't want them to see me where i came from so they could check the cameras so i walked all around the block so they wouldn't be able to check cameras because we don't tell you know i mean we take care of it ourselves scary where'd you where'd you grow up where you from originally i was born here in california at cedars-sinai's um when i was four i went to visit my family in london um announced to you know unknown to me my father was having a sexual relationship with my mom's best friend so we stayed there for the next 10 years and tell me about your parents um my mom did as good as she can as good as she could but my father had [ __ ] her up real bad you know so um i had to deal with my mom she had a few nervous breakdowns and we'd find her walking around london following the yellow brick road what she said these were the yellow lions in the road all around london and london's a huge [ __ ] city you know i was very worried for my mom back then how would you describe your childhood um not the same as anyone else's good and bad in some parts i grew up a little fast i did things that other children didn't do i did drugs at an early age um i experienced a lot of things at an early age uh i started doing graffiti in 1989. um and that's when [ __ ] really got [ __ ] crazy you know um i started doing graffiti in 1989 when i came back i met a friend of mine across the street his name was roman and they called him caper and we started to go out we were from a crew called 818k and we started to go out and paint billboards and [ __ ] on ventura and then that progressed to painting freeway science and that progressed to going all city from from san francisco to oregon and on and you know so on and so on and until i caught 11 million dollar charge i caught in four days 11 million dollars in damages um through my graffiti and i was looking at seven years upstate at uh 17 years old because of my graffiti how'd they catch you uh we got into a chase we were seen by highway patrol or no we were seen by caltrans and cal trans um contacted highway patrol uh we ran from miami patrol for a few hours they eventually caught us in the support pass in the riverbed because the helicopters were out we couldn't get away so that was the beginning of that how much time did you actually do uh initially um just a week or so and then uh and then um i got out got caught again and that's when they got really bad um i did i believe nearly a year the county for that and i was looking at about seven to nine years in uh prison for my for my graffiti how much prison time have you done total um i just got out of prison last april i just got off the four yard calipa calipatria i've done probably five and a half six years prison time and drugs have been in your life for how long a long time a long time drugs been in my life uh i started playing hockey which i did too i started playing hockey uh when i came back about about 13 and i was using a little bit of marijuana stuff like that i played hockey until i was uh 23 i played uh six years in the triple-a hockey league and i actually got a uh a full ride i was picked up by montreal and um they gave me a they gave me a um contract that stated if i went to my last summer or winter camp training and um they told me that if i gave them a year in the farm team in montreal that did guarantee me a year the nhl and um i [ __ ] that up i didn't i didn't go to my last winter camp because i was very into my graffiti at that time i was being interviewed by a couple magazines vice magazine juxtaposed magazine and i felt like i was being pressed into something that i didn't know if i wanted by my you know by other people's expectations of my family you know so i [ __ ] that off and i regret that but it was cool because i played for the only california team to ever beat alaska so that was cool and today you're living right i'm living downtown everywhere you're just on the street i'm on the streets you're in a tent or you're just swinging it no i've never been in a tent i'm usually inside hotels chicks houses you know stuff like that day by day yeah day by day i make i make it pretty i make i make good money sometimes you know um but you know i'm also an addict so i also have to feed that addiction so um i uh i spend a lot you know and i do a lot of drugs and do a lot of other people's [ __ ] and have friends out here that need a lot of help so i helped them what is your drug dental and you'll support yourself doing what selling panel and um some uh some small collections i do for a couple bigger operators out here so making collections meaning just go talk to this person they owe me a thousand bucks they'll be ten thousand bucks i need to get paid before this is going to escalate go talk to them scotty i usually talk to them once maybe twice usually if i have to talk to them twice they will pay that day but they usually pay the first time i visit them and the scar in your face probably helps business i don't care you know i i i do what i say i'm not scared i don't give a [ __ ] about getting shot or stabbed i've been shot four times i've been stabbed three times and lost my life twice i have four of my best friends die in my arms my friend was murdered in my house around my family by the cops i woke up to my wife dead next to me so i really don't give a [ __ ] about anything how old do you know i'm 41. 41. either married or in love my wife died she died next to me in bed how long ago was that that was on november 20th 2017 so sorry and living down here tell me about living on the street starting kind of way it's been harley it's been crazy this is part of my life i'll never forget it's a part of my life i think i may have needed to have i needed i needed this to see it um i think a lot of people might need this in their life not saying that um [Music] i i need i need more of a lesson now but uh it does things to you if you if you haven't been if your life hasn't done you by yourself this place will do it to you i'll never forget what skid row has done to me ever i've seen [ __ ] gnarly things especially being a white boy you know i have to really press the issue because i don't [ __ ] around i'm not gonna get punked or i'm not disrespected by anyone i don't care what the [ __ ] they do you know what i mean but um i i i move around pretty well i'm pretty respected by all the races you know what i mean so i can move between the races um for the white boys out here i pretty much um i have the final say for for the white guys out here on the streets when it comes down to things being um organized and uh decisions that we have to make you know how were you first introduced to hard drugs um i had a friend his name was michael buha he did graffiti with me he called him beetle from yr yard rats and uh he um said dude have you ever smoked heroin i said no he says the [ __ ] did you come over and try it so i did and i was like i'm gonna go outside and smoke a cigarette and it was the most unbelievable euphorically beautiful cigarette and time i've ever had i i never thought anything like that and i wanted more of it you know it's been it's been a [ __ ] ever since what are you worried about what are you afraid of i'm afraid uh for my children i have three kids who are they or my mother you think there's a chance that you'll you won't get off the streets or the drugs oh yeah i'm gonna get off the drugs they they right now as we speak they're really really at their last legs with me you know i have to use a lot to get loaded i like to be dangerous and uh i uh i don't um i don't like using it i'm not gonna load so i do use large amounts you know and uh sometimes um i don't i don't owe d though but sometimes when we're using people od i've watched so many people die that you couldn't save i've watched people if i can say go hurry you know i can and i i i run into people that have no i can't they're trying to [ __ ] sell it to me you know and i'm like it's [ __ ] atrocious dude and people have died that way you know a lot of people have seen a lot of people die a lot of death too it's mostly fentanyl that's causing these deaths too yes and no um uh these um well the people that don't know what they're doing they want to hide no matter what and if that mall is there it's not a drug that you won't try for your first heart drugs and it's not something it will kill you immediately and uh it has killed me twice i've i've gone i've it's been over for me luckily i had some people that cared about me and brought me back you know is this your lowest point in your life right now i don't know it's been not been a bad day you know i'm here with you you know it's not been a bad day some days are good your attitude about living down here isn't isn't the bleep you know i'll tell you the truth i miss it sometimes when i'm not here i don't know why you know maybe it's the people maybe it's the [ __ ] that goes on maybe some freedom i don't know the one thing that does bother me though is i have children and i miss them immensely greatly deeply you know my youngest is hard for me to deal with though he looked so much like his mother and i i was madly in love with his mother badly and and would do anything for her anything i did like i said i died on the operating table you know so uh i came back and see you like excuse me she was like yeah she um she was something else she was something special to me and i woke up to her dad i i don't think i was mad enough to see her i couldn't see the big picture you know give any regrets any other yeah not being mad enough for not being a man that she wanted and decided to spend her life with she was so much better than me so much more beautiful to me she graduated from juilliard second her class she was a ballerina she accepted to the royal academy of arts dance she also played water polo for a single and she was a suicide girl for four years and she loved tattoos and [ __ ] and like like that but she was a very different kind of girl she was a very subdued um very uh very um a girl is very demure you know she didn't speak much she didn't it's not the person she was she liked to read and she liked the quaint things in life and she loved to dance to ballet and uh she could do it so well so it was beaut i was so madly in love with her i still am i still asked ask her every night to come to me i still pined for her but she's gone [Music] something absolutely just losing her make it harder for you to deal with the situation yeah it does i would think out here it'd be better not to have a girlfriend you know because of the atrocious hit that goes on with these girls you know their boyfriends don't give them hustles but their boyfriends go to jail expect them just to live out here well they get sick and they find out when some guy comes along and says hey do this this this and i'll give you this and this and this and finally they do it because they're so sick and now they're empowered by it so now they're [ __ ] and doing this and doing that it's like dig and all sorts of [ __ ] for dope and you're crying to me why your girlfriend's doing that you should have taught her hustle you were out boosting all day why didn't you try to boost luckily my girl she wasn't like that she didn't she would never sell her body she would never do anything like that ever i never let her um she uh was very good she was very good at anything she did or she was good at and um i missed her immensely she was my little partner in crime you know we did a lot of gnarly things together a lot of gnarly [ __ ] things a lot of burglaries and [ __ ] you know she was down for it and she loved me you know she was way too good for me what would you say is the most important lesson you've learned in your life the last important thing i've learned in my life i've learned that life is finite and [ __ ] it is not a bad thing to say but i got children i learned so i mean i'm just kind of selfish i don't want to lie to anyone um i love my children you know but if i could i'd kill myself if i could go to the same place that she is i'd kill myself to be with her that's a [ __ ] up thing to say but i loved her immensely and losing her and and uh the drugs that i do every day like i [ __ ] i have like a i have like a 350 a day drug habit you know and i still can't donate high i don't get high now i just maintaining some kind of [ __ ] weird kind of [ __ ] uh soda [ __ ] reality that i'm keeping up with i don't even know what day it is dude because i haven't slept in like five days i don't know if i'm coming or going i got money in my pocket know where i came from doing xanax too so just getting real [ __ ] weird um the money that i made for the last three days i lost it and i'll switch i've lost five six thousand dollars before you know doing dumb [ __ ] and i had to make that money back you know i was doing actually i was doing really really good at one point selling dope i was making nearly three thousand dollars a day making selling though at the park and i was just living the life of a [ __ ] little [ __ ] rock star i guess but not happy about it i just don't i don't know what it is yet that drives me to do this i don't know what it is yet that that makes me come back to this um if uh if i were to give anyone some advice or whatever is uh in a situation like this is really good to know yourself and know what you're about if you do it can help you a lot down here um my wife let me know what kind of man i was i found out was that man i wasn't what i was capable of doing and i loved her for that and then she left me she died and it's caused a lot of problems to be very angry i uh i lashed out and did some [ __ ] [ __ ] up [ __ ] to people you know i didn't deserve it and um tried to make some kind of amends and or whatever you know uh it's really you know like um you know ask me whatever whatever you want to know i'll tell you yeah it's more um [Music] i uh recently uh got shot uh for the for the next the second time i was a 44 magnum went through my arm broke my bone shot hit me here under my last rib traveled up broke all my ribs serrated my liver punched out my lung um put me in a coma for uh nine days and then i died coming out of the oklahoma i died for nearly uh four and a half minutes and they brought me back so now i don't know how but they did is there something that attracts you to this lifestyle uh i wouldn't say attracts me to this lifestyle i'm not really one for the garbage and the stink and the [ __ ] and all that but like like this kind of lifestyle like i'm not really into the muck i kind of like nice stuff but as far as like the grind goes every day and like the freedom you know and the way i i i have to tell you i i miss it and i do like it and it bothers me saying that because i have children that i need to get to and i don't want them to hate me but they don't they won't understand this yet all right scotty thank you so much for sharing your story yeah anything else you can tell yeah i'm good thank you very much you

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Published: Mon Mar 14 2022