Meghan and Harry Oprah Interview Body Language Analysis

did you make kate cry no did you blindside the queen right i don't know what did you guys think about this the these folks yeah i guess what everybody wants to know is who was it that brought up the color of the kid i don't think that happened at all really interesting i do yeah i do yeah i think i know who as well i have a pretty good feeling for who and it wasn't grandpa it wasn't grandpa yeah you could see it yeah yep yeah yeah yeah yeah okay so save it chase this will be good we'll go ahead let's just tell this will be fun we'll disagree what do you know and then you throw your harvard thing out yeah anyway ready yeah yep here we go i'm scott rouse i'm a body language expert and analyst and i train law enforcement in the military in interrogation and body language i created the number one online body language course body language tactics with greg hartley mark i'm mark boden i'm an expert in human behavior and body language i help people all over the world to stand out win trust and gain credibility every time they communicate including some of the leaders of the g7 chase i'm chase hughes best-selling author in behavior science influence and people reading to 20 years in the u.s military uh multiple certifications from harvard university for neuroscience and i give people real world superpowers and persuasion and extreme influence including intelligence agencies and the general public greg greg hartley i'm a former army interrogator interrogation instructor resistance to interrogation instructor written 10 books on body language and behavior did this course with scott the body language tactics.com and i spend most of my time today in corporate america or with wall street all right well please subscribe if you're listening to us for the first time or watching for the first time and what we're going to do now is we're going to talk about today we're going to talk about megan and harry and uh we i think we've all seen the oprah winfrey interview with them and we're just gonna talk about uh what we see now keep in mind as we go through this all we're doing is tell you the body language we see in these videos that we're showing you that's it we're not giving any backstory about what we think we're not seeing anybody's uh innocent guilty not there's anything like that going on in here but we're switzerland we don't care we're just telling you what we see in this that's it and that's all all right we good yeah good let's get started and if you're going to marry a royal then you would do research about what that would mean well i didn't do any research about i didn't do any research no i've never looked up my husband online i just didn't feel a need to because everything that i needed to know he was sharing with me right everything that we thought i needed to know he was telling me all right greg what do you got yeah so i'm going to start this one off by talking about culture culture no such thing as body language without culture and it impacts everything we do if you think about little kids in the us used to use the same salute the nazis used to do a the pledge of allegiance until hitler created that whole mess and then that went away that same thing's true about every culture we enter and so we'll have subcultures that means the four of us are subculture a very small culture that creates our own normals and that kind of thing then you get to microcultures and those are things like just a couple of people and they'll have their own nuanced way of communicating it's going to come up in this show but as importantly that's a step down that's that micro and then there are these cloistered cultures that you never get to see we're going to be talking about one of those cloistered cultures you never get to see and they have very very nuanced signaling that you will not pick up on just for one minute think about what it means to bring an american not not a person not of noble birth noble birth british kind of term mark i'm sure you'll talk about but an american an american into this who's never learned that there's that the queen is not a person it's an office all that kind of thing so we're going to see a lot of that come up in here but this is an american we're watching so it gets real easy to think about what some of her body language is she starts with kind of a curt smirk lip and then when she says that i did not look this guy none of us believe that i mean none of us chase if you're gonna date the prince tomorrow i'm sure you'd look him up too right that's just the way it goes all of us would be that way then if you look at her condemning there she reaches for her back if she weren't pregnant we would all jump on that and say okay that's an adapter that's a move for her to make herself comfortable but because she is pregnant probably related to that we'll give her the benefit of a doubt there she does however correct herself and she corrects herself as she adds a comment what everything we thought we needed to know now i'm going to leave you one last point and then i'm going to hand this off because i don't want to steal everything this one's not real big but there's a thing called informed consent informed consent means i go into something believing i understand what the risks are i've done a great one chase and i both signed up for informed consent with the military and turned our lives over to somebody but i've done two tv shows where we had real life reenactments of prisoners of war situations and people signed up and said oh i got it i understand they should have researched what we were doing and done in kruger so they would realize they didn't know what they were getting in for and it went really badly for them already i can see i think i know enough to go and be married to a prince well there's a beginning of this and that's what i think i'm starting to see here right out of the gate scott what do you got all right i see much stuff in this i'm getting a whole bunch and we do and greg phil remember we do a thing in body language tactics talks exactly about everything we're seeing here from groupings of cues we're looking at to uh her delivery all this stuff now first thing we see is called the latency in in other words latency in the delivery of the uh answer and that's one thing you look at when you're trying to make a decision about whether someone's being honest with you or not and it can go either it can go one of two ways you can say there's too much time or you can say there's not enough time and how do you know well you have what's called what greg lives on the baseline so after you listen this person talk for a while then you can say okay well they're answering that too quickly for that or they're taking too long to answer that it's very subtle when you when you when you get into those things so her it's called response latency and here it's too late when she starts too soon when she starts so then we see her she goes she goes along she uses a as a regulator almost like when you say i when you go to court i'm you know i'm you take the oath you're the right hand goes up i swear to god whatever so but in this case what we're saying is it almost comes up like this and she's very still when she does it and at the same time she starts saying that she didn't she gets that head tilt and she gets the head tail before she starts shaking her head no because her brain is fighting that wanting to go yes but it's tilting saying as she says no so it's a little tough for it to get through that these things are grouped in one of the things i look for when i'm trying to decide if someone is being honest if they're being deceptive or they're just flat out line is i group things in threes if i see one little shoulder shrug or something it doesn't mean anything it could mean if somebody does this what they're talking it doesn't mean anything but you see several things at the same time then you can say there might be something here there might be an issue here so the first thing we're saying when she says uh i didn't feel the need to then we see a short really quick shoulder shrug and that's a classic sign of deception when you see him in groups when you see groups of things and the second one is this is that really fast eye flutter it's three there may be four i can't tell chase will know because i'm sure you got in there look real close coming out of that that one shot to the next one then you see her she's already started blinking so you see three of those as she comes through so that would be the next one that's her brain that's her thinking as she goes through that then the request for approval as her eyebrows keep going up and coming back down then we see her start qualifying that answer given the reasons why she didn't need to as she went through it so in this case i'll look at that and i say you know what and we see up we'll see a a pattern here as we go through and it's a subtle pattern but it's a thread that runs through this and it's these little little groups of things we'll see and that i'm sure we'll all point out chase what do you got very similar to you guys but i think there were there was two denials here the first denial was not having looked up what it meant to be married to a royal the second denial was not googling her husband i think the first denial was truthful when she says i haven't ever looked up what it meant of course i mean who's going to type that into google i think that was a truthful denial but then we have the the non-contracted denial which he says did not or i think she says did not and there's a stop gesture is what i think that is is a stop gesture and our this is when our fingers extend digital extension for scott there this is when we we want something to stop and even this happens to all of us this is a natural behavior if your hand is in your pocket in your purse down at your side you're trying to convince someone not to do something try it right now imagine yourself in that scenario your fingers start to extend automatically and that's something we do unconsciously failure to use name throughout the entire interview that you're going to see here tonight and in the full full interview there was very little name usage uh there's eye blocking on the delivery when she's saying online uh single shrug when she says didn't need to scott pointed that out and this confirmation request when she's saying the word right and i think that's unusual i also think that it's starting to seep into the way that we communicate naturally and she's in that kind of age group where that becomes something that's a normal part of communication so there's a lot of qualifiers here immediate forward posture shift which is i think some kind of expenditure and somebody might say well she was pregnant and you know she's been experiencing some discomfort with her outfit or her dress however when you're feeling stressed out or there's high anxiety those small pieces of discomfort matter more to you because your brain is trying to seek as much comfort as possible so discomfort becomes more discomfort so yes it might be that reason but those feelings of discomfort are exacerbated by stress and anxiety mark yeah so let me go through the cluster because yeah if you said saw any of one of these things on their own then you wouldn't be worried about anything but straight out of the gate here there is such a big cluster here that you have to go hang on that isn't accurate what you and also look honestly it just begs belief i google the plumber okay and i'm not marrying the plumber okay so look we we google just about everything out there and so and so it doesn't have kind of a a rational belief to it anyway that said she could be very very special she just doesn't google that kind of thing but we get yes look for approval in the eyebrows one shoulder shrug head tilts to one side right hand illustrator absolutely then that right and then oprah comes in and helps her by repeating that now there's a lot of kind of great symbiotic relationship between the two the fact that the friend helps with the answer comes in to save and at the end of that then does an adapter to the nose witness when you rub your nose doesn't mean you're lying but that within the cluster that the friend starts joining in that's a big cluster of information uh greg the the the hitch forward and the movement of the of the dress i'm going to say she is adapting on the dress there and i'm going to say that the reason i say this is important is this is an actress she knows when she puts a costume on not to alter it when you're done you're done you don't move so i think it's a stress relief adapter right there just one last thing to say about the the dress and culture um i think it was mark twain who said history doesn't repeat itself as as harry said but it rhymes and there is something rhythmic in the dress and that's the way it rhymes slightly uh with wallace simpson and and a dress now look you know dresses are of course you have dresses with flowers on of course there you know you you could talk about that that of course she's going to end up with a dress with a flower on the design is very very very similar so that's worth looking at is that a purposeful choice to show up with that that resonance of somebody else who who was related to an abdication of of of status essentially being forced into an abdication of status there may be something rhythmic in that as well uh for anybody who wants to put below you know ah you're just talking about how the woman is dressed no i will talk later about harry and how he's dressed and how symbolic that is as well because he's not wearing the usual stuff from german street or savile row where he would be expected to dress from uh so yeah straight out of the gate that's that's a pretty amazing cluster and and a pretty interesting inaccuracy to want to kick off with why not just say yeah because i googled the guy i mean it's like a prince i googled you know just uh just to see what information course of course you'd google we all know that and if you're going to marry a royal then you would do research about what that would mean well i didn't do any research i didn't do any research no i've never looked up my husband online i just didn't feel a need to because everything that i needed to know he was sharing with me right everything that we thought i needed to know he was telling me so specifically did you make kate cry no all right chase what do you got i'll just point out a couple things here there's some prolonged eye contact holding afterwards for effect no request for approval which is unusual but this prolonged eye contact afterward deviates wildly from her her baseline eyebrows go up before the denial before the denial so we have a traditional behavioral pattern mismatch there mouth closes immediately you guys know i pick on that a lot that's one of my my things i think that's a very good indicator especially when you know the baseline there's some lip compression there and why outright denial instead of an exclusion statement how does she know that kate didn't cry at home how did she know that it didn't happen somewhere else that was outside of her awareness that's an acceptable place for an exclusion statement if i ask the ceo of enron are you engaged in insider trading and he says as far as i know no that's where it would be deceptive when you should have direct knowledge but when you don't always have direct knowledge that's when you can hear those exclusion statements and they do help to tell the truth uh scott what do you got all right again we see that latency response is a little bit too quick there on the answer so that that's that's number one the next number two for me is fading facts because she says no she says no it's really quiet compared to the way she's been talking up at this point and when she starts that answer like chase was just saying boy she locks those eyes and is like just burning her with those and she tries to look innocent and sweet and all that and then i think we're seeing actually a duping delight i know it's supposed to come quickly and all that but i think she's smiling the whole time and it it that's what it looks like to me that's always arguable always arguable duping delight but in this case i think that's probably what we're seeing then we see a contempt right there on the left side of her mouth as she does that her mouth goes up gets tight she does a little smile and we see just a little bit too much on the left goes up and she's going through these this situation so i believe she did make her cry and i believe that um i don't i don't believe that that the that uh who's a kate made her cry because she says the exact opposite i don't think that happened i think she scored on that one she was trying to uh sting her there all right mark yep so strong denial up front yes absolutely there's kind of a look of approval before all of this kind of transpires uh direct eye contact a little bit of emotion in the forehead and the chin down here but i think that's because of the the lip compression and suppression that happens um so what i would say is what i would point out on this i think is there is something withheld at this point i'm not going to say hey you know somebody did cry somebody didn't cry you know i just don't know but i do think something is being held back and i do see a lot of locking the interviewer with with this idea of no but not giving the full story at this point so i'll leave it at uh that that leaves us with uh greg what do you got yeah so let's first remember she's talking to american royalty so she's got to win her over i mean oprah is as big as it gets there's not another person in the on earth probably better known than she is she's the eldest of today if you use a single name she is certainly that when she does this face when he's talking to oprah of significance forget everything else we're going to say watch the rest of the interview and look for that face again this is a baseline deviation on every front chin tucked lips compressed with a smile kind of an odd thing that withdrawing her lips is requesting approval as well as she gets a little bit of a forehead i agree with you chase you didn't go to full blown this but the grief muscle ripples just a touch at the same time so when i see that all that i go hmm something is not right here i'll just leave it at that compare it run it too fast forward watch the whole video as much as you want and find another place that looks like that that's a baseline deviation on all fronts that for me is ding ding ding ding ding guess what i would dig in a lot harder excellent so specifically did you make kate cry no all right hello came in as a divorcee you came in as an independent woman you came in as the first mixed race person to marry into the family and yours was a different story and did that concern you in in in being able to fit in did you think about that at all well i thought about it because they made me think about it right but i think at the same time now upon reflection thank god all of those things were true here we go more lance armstrong mark what do you got uh yeah so uh double shoulder raise just before she starts to answer and they stay there so there's some element of protection i would say before she starts to speak quite a long pause before she gets anything out but uh essentially they made me think about about it they made me so there's an idea of being forced against your will around this very different from in video one where we were looking where the story there i think is one of innocent naivety the idea is i'm i'm innocent i'm naive didn't even google the guy hey just walking into this stuff like uh like somebody does and now it's no they made me do something and i'm forced against my will oprah again building rapport uh megan right and so we've got this rapport building oprah though a fantastic interview to be fair during this there's a lot of rapport building here that doesn't necessarily i think get to some honest answers sometimes i think at times uh megan is quite adept and oprah is as equally adept at making a friend here and not necessarily getting to the truth of it so i think there was something protected in this out comes a story of being forced against the will and we got two friends bonding even more throughout this piece uh one more thing on the way that we see her dressed just because it's interesting to come to again the resonance the darkness in the eyes there very similar to diana again is this conscious is that unconscious but that bashir interview diana had very very dark eyes certainly there is some poetic resonance in that is it purposeful writing or is it just up to chance because yeah sure you know dark eye makeup is a is a standard or one of the tropes of of eye makeup so it would be fair to say could be an accident also be fair to say could be purposeful chase what do you got on this i agree uh with you mark and i think there's right at the beginning there you're going to see some eye flutter and this eye flutter behavior is i want you to imagine like you've spent a long time writing a bunch of stuff out for a class on a dry erase board and there's so much there you've got to write a bunch of new stuff you've got to wipe it down you got to wipe it clean this is the brain's way of saying i've i've exhausted all of this cpu processing trying to get ready for all of this and now i need to spit out the answer that requires a new program to open up so i need to shut down all these other tabs i've got open we're just kind of cleaning this late but the reason that we tend to do this is especially when we're when we're stressed we're protecting the brain and people say well the eyes are connected to the brain no they're not the eyes are brain so that's a part of your brain that's actually exposed to the air that's why we see this eye flutter behavior and that's a part of your central nervous system so we're cleaning it off we're wetting it and cleaning it that's what that eye flutter comes from there's a long pause there and i think this just heard the strategy on how to answer not that she's lying that doesn't mean she's lying at all you watch bill clinton on any talk show he he will take as long as he needs to to answer questions in a truthful way and there's some head wobble there that i'm sure greg will pick up on he's the head wobble master but it was head wobble with eye blocking which is unusual to see for her i've never seen her do it and i've had to go back today and there's a rapid change in her facial expression that goes from a smile that disappears truthful facial expressions are based in a chemical compound in the brain those chemicals reach a half-life and then die off and the muscles relax so true facial expressions fade off of the face which we don't see here that's false and i think at the same time now upon reflection thank god all of those things were true not sure what that means that's a strange uh strange thing actually before we started recording i had to ask you guys uh what she was talking about and we couldn't figure it out and some more eye blocking here at the end which which you'll see and uh greg i'll pass it up to you yeah so let me start where you finished the whole sentence about thank god all those things are true the perfect next question and this is the interrogator in my head why why thank god why thank god all those things are true go back we saw the head bobble thing when she was listing off what you would typically call the resume statement but oprah's doing it for her you know first mixed race first running down the list there's a trigger point the i flutter occurs this is prepped i don't mean that she has a prepared statement but she's prepared for this for this thing for being asked the hard question and she can see it she can see the trigger coming and her flutter starts her blink rate goes through the roof it looks like a blink rate or flutter while she's answering that question it makes me see recognition that this is a topic she's recognized and ready for and she breaks eye contact and you i wish the camera angle were better because i'm almost certain she broke eye contact down left but she broke eye contact left for sure down left any time you're having a conversation with self and you're thinking about how to navigate words and what you should say next you'll find people's eyes drift down to their left so you when you're talking to someone and they ask you a hard question that you need to put in perspective you are going to drift down into your left now there can be deviation it can be hard way over here it can be somewhere in here but it's almost always that i've interrogated a lot of people and i've never seen a deviation from that one now i don't believe in a lot of absolutes as you guys all know that's one i do follow that the down right eye movement for emotion then she does a long pause and she's navigating that thought comes back and says thank god okay she's taking some kind of high holy ground i would ask her why that's all don't think she's being deceptive i think it just indicates something is going on she's prepared for the question scott what you got well i think this is a continuation of painting the picture of for us the picture of a victim and she wears everything toward toward um and it seems such narcissistic but she's painting the picture of of her being a victim and what we're seeing as she answers this are our anger expressions and their micro expressions we're seeing when she says um at the same time now if you'll look right in here you'll see this thing where she goes up where it keeps popping up in there and those are classic micro expressions of anger we're not seeing much in the the eyebrows toward anger but we do see more eyebrow movement here than we do in the rest of the videos we're going to watch so that's one thing to look out for is that the little micro expression of anger and then i think i think that's pretty much all i got i mean you guys covered everything else but we're seeing this this um creating you know starting to paint this picture of a victim as we go through this came in as a divorcee you came in as an independent woman you came in as the first mixed race person to marry into the family and yours was a different story and did that concern you in in in being able to fit in did you think about that at all well i thought about it because they made me think about it right but i think at the same time now upon reflection thank god all of those things were true yeah one of the stories that continues to live either through rumors or social media out in the world is that you megan are the one who manipulated calculated and are responsible for this mexit oh my gosh it's amazing how they can use meg for everything yes there are even stories that you knew all along that this was going to happen you went through the whole process and it was all intentional to build your brand can you imagine how little sense that makes i left my career my life i left everything because i love him right and our plan was to do this forever our plan for me i mean i wrote letters to his family when i got there saying i am dedicated to this i'm here for you use me as you'd like there was no guidance as well right there were certain things that you couldn't do but you know unlike what you see in the movies there's no class on how to how to speak how to cross your legs how to be royal there's none of that train that might exist for other members of the family that was not something that was offered to me all right i'll go first on this one um when when she says uh you megan you see a little head pop she's getting ready like she's already in in defense mode on this i don't know if she she must think oprah's going to attack her oprah's not that that that style of uh interviewer sometimes she is and sometimes because she's great at it but in this case she's not and then while she's talking she gives that that back me up glance over to harry you know she's going along like back me up man i'm going i'm i'm doing this then as her head pops you see his head turn and give it one of these like you know are you going in here what are we doing so they're both on i think what what you would call high alert for um for an attack from oprah and um and harry you see his little bitty mic i'm not even sure i'm going to call it micro expression of anger but boy it sure it sure looks like it there's so much going on with his face doesn't look like a whole lot's going on most of the time but when he gets in there i can't i can't decide through these little ticks he has or if it's actually these little micro expressions and then they're both sitting very still as they go through this really still because they're waiting for an attack as they go through this i guess it's really their first big interview they've done with anybody so they're waiting for the big bombs to drop but oprah's i don't know if it's not that style of uh interview so i think that's what we're looking at and then for her answer obviously it's can you imagine it's chaff and redirect i steal greg's thing there but that's what that is she doesn't really answer it she starts off can you imagine it goes into this thing what people must think and how they must act all those things where she should just give it give an answer that's what we think she should just do but in this case it's classic chaff and redirect greg what do you got yeah so agree jeff and redirect she doesn't answer the question can you imagine megan you use megan for everything got it yeah she just runs away with the question interestingly for me is watching his body language when she asked the question in the beginning i see pub at if i were in a pub and saw a guy go like this you know something's coming that's pre-aggression when you're in those situations so i think he is he's a little like hold on a second he clocks his head a little bit looks at her and then he realizes hey it's not an attack but you see there's conflict body language for sure there he does kind of a half smile there so he's got asymmetric behavior and we know asymmetric behavior is never positive works his jaw a little bit all that's conflict preparation all of that's conflict preparation so it's a little condemning his his blink rate's up hers drops and then she does into oh my god this piece when she starts talking about there are no classes well here's why royals married royals for centuries because their life is that class they didn't have to learn and even to the point if you look at pre-world war one they're people who believe that world war one may have started over a family spat between people who are all descended from queen victoria living in different countries ruling now so guys this is a complex thing the world they live in so i'm sure they don't have markup you may have had some of those classes we don't get those because you know we're provincials but yeah at the end of the day when she says there are no classes or maybe other people get it watch him rifle through his rolodex a visual memory to see if there are classes that other people have gotten see his eyes go up left as he's trying to recall is there a class for other people that she just didn't get exposed to so interesting to watch i think he was ready to your point scott he was ready to hammer and then he realized oh no i don't have to do that he backed down he is however barriering meaning barriers mean i need space i put something between me and you and you see it increasing him here and doing some adapting and i refer to that as sacred space i've left it out in a few places here i'll bring it up from now on but if you watch in the coming videos you'll see it progressively more there's also going to be some more subtle nuanced communication coming up soon um mark what do you got yeah so i think oprah kind of does her lawyer act you and and it's a surprising tone and therefore i think yes megan is surprised by that yeah harry does come in with the ear his breathing rate goes up as well so he's like hang on what's going on what's going on here so yes he's getting ready for aggression um she looks for support uh corner of his mouth raises in response to her um but then once he realizes it's okay he goes back and he locks down into what i would say is kind of his interrogation pose i think he knows how to handle himself in these situations because i think he's been trained in a number of places how to handle himself and and he is locked down hard it's nice to see that there's this lovely little moment where he opens up his thumbs he kind of does an open palm gesture but just with the thumbs there i think that's around the idea of um letters being written um i think there's some honesty from both of them around what they thought their role was and her going i will just fit in and do this and and i think she truly did write some letters um so but what's most interesting for me is this um metaphor idea really from oprah of out in the world so she said yeah but out in the world here's the perception of of you and and isn't it a wonderful location that they have there which is essentially a walled garden or what we call a paradise paradise simply means walled garden somewhere which is beautiful which the rest of the world can't get into it's interesting that they have set themselves up in to be interviewed about their actions you know out in the world within this location of the paradise so there's a weird kind of juxtaposition there between royalty and the rest of us and yet there aren't any classes for how to be royal uh there are classes for them in how to kind of fit in a little bit better with everybody else at public occasions and it's interesting so harry is wearing a a ludlow suit from j crew i don't know if anybody out there knows about jake the ludlow so it's not a super expensive suit it's not like he went to german street and got himself a suit or savile row and it's a kind of a very ordinary suit that's equated with you know one of your first jobs you go and get yourself a j crew uh suit maybe so he's really kind of lowering the idea of his status to you know just ordinary guy ordinary guy from out there and yet there they are in this paradise uh you have uh megan there um with one of diana's his mother's bracelet on there as well diamond bracelet invoking the spirit of the mother now remember uh diana is is on a goddess status she's even has the same name as a greek goddess so so she has a god-like status he is a son of somebody with god-like status sitting in paradise so what an extraordinary uh scene to evoke the idea of out there uh in the world the sense of um their life is not of the world of us uh ordinary people there you go ah chase what do you got yeah mark i agree with you that you're gonna see interesting behaviors from a guy who's had training from people like you from people like the queen and from people like this guy up there because that's going to be a good mix a very interesting mix and this anger that he has when the question starts coming up i like that i think that's what a husband should do you know there's a threat he's going to say wait i'm gonna i'm gonna stop it and she's frozen during this question which is a very notable thing that her whole body is still because this natural movement of her tilting her head nodding and listening is shut down because she is laser focused on a potential threat and that tends to shut down a lot of our unnecessary motor function which is what we're seeing here and i think it's really notable that she's using the word meg in third person only time she does it is when there's something negative that's somebody else so she's dissociating herself from the negative activities that are happening and harry shows instant contempt again when oprah is saying it's this is the thing to to build your brand and i will admit i didn't know who this person was i didn't know who megan was until we made a choice to do this video and i had to i had to google her did you more than you yeah but did you google her i did so from what i understand she's on a little tv show here in the u.s and she's saying she sacrificed this tiny celebrity show celebrity status to go be a princess and that's a tremendous sacrifice if i got that wrong it's interesting in here that she goes back to repeating the sentence to stop harry from speaking doesn't look at him doesn't reach over and touch his arm as she continues but that's what people do when they want their point to be very well understood and they want to shut somebody else up they'll go back to the beginning of the sentence not continue speaking they'll start all the way over to make sure that the point is communicated and i think that was very telling in the relationship there and i want you to pay very close attention to how she uses her her hands and movements she's a trained actress good or bad i have no idea i've never seen her but when she says i'm here for you she's separating her hands i'm here for this i'm dedicated to this and everything is pulling her hands apart and you'll see her in later interviews where she's saying we need to come together on this so everything is very fluent she's bodily fluent when she's speaking i think that's very interesting here that she's using that separation gesture but she what she's doing here is moving the locus of control i want you to watch it like a little piece on a chessboard locus of control moving further and further away from her anything that bad that happened i'm not responsible for it so i'm not saying she's lying or being deliberately deceptive or that this is a fake interview or anything like that but this is a moving piece so if you're training it to be a psychologist this is one of the first things you learn in psychologies is the patient or the client moving the locus of control piece away from themselves and how often do they do that that's a good data point and that's all i got excellent one of the stories that continues to live either through rumors or social media out in the world is that you megan are the one who manipulated calculated and are responsible for this mexit oh my gosh it's amazing how they can use meg for everything yes there are even stories that you knew all along that this was going to happen you went through the whole process and it was all intentional to build your brand can you imagine how little sense that makes i left my career my life i left everything because i love him right and our plan was to do this forever yeah our plan for me i mean i wrote letters to his family when i got there saying i am dedicated to this i'm here for you use me as you'd like there was no guidance as well right there were certain things that you couldn't do but you know unlike what you see in the movies there's no class on how to how to speak how to cross your legs how to be royal there's none of that training that might exist for other members of the family that was not something that was offered to me all right you wanted freedom from from that life you wanted freedom to make your own money you wanted freedom to make deals with netflix and spotify but you also wanted to serve the queen no we didn't want to we didn't want to give up or we didn't want to turn our backs on these the associations and the people that we that we've been supporting but also oh it it oprah exists yeah but is this but also but also the netflix and the spotify of it all that was never part of the plan yeah because you didn't have a plan where did we have a place that was suggested by somebody else by the by the point where my family literally cut me off financially and i had to afford security for us wait hold up wait a minute your family cut you off yeah in the first half the first quarter of 2020 but i've got what my mum left me and without that we would not have been able to do this all right uh greg what do you got yeah if i were choosing a set to put them in awkward positions i couldn't choose better chairs for a guy his height i don't know how tall he is i'm long arm long leg i would be miserable in that chair but it allows him to do some goofy body language that if he had good handlers they probably would have said no he's not sitting in that chair if i were coaching him or mark we're coaching him or chase or scott we would all say nope not sitting in that chair because it's going to be way too visible when he moves around number one number two i started off talking about culture way back in the beginning of this show go all the way back now i'm going to show you a microculture in action if you notice they have their hands together this is controlling couples have signaling with their hands that they don't have to talk about they probably did talk about it in the beginning chase you talked about last time her restating her comment without touching him as a regulator what a regulator is a way to control conversation those things well couples because they can hold hands and it doesn't look awkward now scott and i are chasing they were sitting holding hands and squeezing people might look at us differently unless we were a couple then maybe they wouldn't notice but when a couple's together they can squeeze their fingers and make things happen and understand so we're talking along and she goes but it exists not even covertly he reaches over and slaps her on the hand figuratively and says shut up honey it's time for me to talk that tells you that this is not a person who is dominating absolutely this is a partnership these guys are talking back and forth and they're communicating about who owns what now i can't speak to inside their relationship except for what i can see and i can clearly see that there's hidden communication going on there's the body language of microculture remember culture is everything and then he says yeah and sinks back in his chair exasperation i think he actually is exasperated with the fact he lost money one other thing that he said we didn't want to give up that's a telling so we didn't want to leave our friends is kind of the way i would say about if i had to leave something not we didn't want to give up give up what give up power give up something comfortable this is a bad time for them make no mistake then she says you didn't have a plan it's almost comical how quickly megan jumps on we didn't have a plan it's almost like a life ring to me like yes we didn't have a plan thank you i don't think there's a rehearsal or something going back and forth but she's going to take advantage of that the other thing to watch him do because he has this hand on megan his other hand is doing the fig leaf putting his hand in front of his crotch and he's also adapting and moving his hands so he's doing three pieces of uncomfortable body language at the same time he's doing two he's doing sacred space fig leaf his hands in front of him and adapting as he rubs his leg so my my verse of that sacred space blocking so when you put your hands in front of you making space when you wiggle your fingers you're making that space comfortable there's a lot going on here i do believe his he's exasperated i do believe they cut him off candidly he was out of the but if you go back and look at the timeline he was already out of the royal family at that point so i think it's okay that he was out of the royal family chase what do you got if uh something's not part of the plan you would need to have a plan and that's just some logic but i think his thumb when he points off camera i'm not going to say what it is i want you to put it in the comments below he points out to the camera at one point when he's talking about these relationships that he didn't want to terminate but he does it again and i want you to figure out he uses the same reference for another thing in this clip next there is a large breath that she's taking in i think this is probably pregnancy related uh her anxiety is peaking though this movement in the chair and discomfort with clothing but we we talked about that with stress and i think the the hold up that uh oprah did was expected and they may have been waiting for it maybe not have been set up but i think they were waiting for that that single moment there and please keep in mind that a wealth and status and power of this kind does not inoculate you or make you immune to stress or depression or hardcore strain and and going through stressful times in your life so this we have the same number or higher sometimes suicide rates and people who make over a million dollars a year as people who are making minimum wage so that that money is by no means an insulator uh to those problems so these problems they're going through i think are probably very real they're they're very real and and none of us here are saying that these are non-existent i just want to put that out there yeah money can often get you a better standard of misery just in case you want to heavy is the head who wears the crown right yeah yeah money money can't buy happiness but it can buy a boat big enough to sail right up next to it that's nice i like that mooring so um yeah he doesn't like being interrupted there's a push tongue as it as it happens it doesn't doesn't like that and and as greg said gentle suppressor as he covers up her hand um to say hey you know i want to continue he then he then repeats the phrase that she interrupted with in order to support that but then uh gets back into his face and there's a rub of his thigh as well so a number of indicators of like i wanted to say my bit there and and yeah i'm very supportive of what you have to say but this was my bit um now um there's a chop illustrator on cut off however he doesn't chop as if something is cut off he shows decline okay so i don't think he was truly cut off i think there was a decline in his uh revenue he's probably talking about his decline in revenue a a drift off of revenue from the duchy of cornwall which is his dad's um uh land and and interests um megan adapts her address again there um yeah we could put that down to pregnancy again you know with somebody who's worked on set again and again and again when the camera runs it doesn't matter what else is going on you don't monkey around with with stuff because it's a real pain so so i think that's probably a true um adapter there um again some more leg rubbing self-soothe and then he sinks back ah in what i think i don't know to correct me if i'm right or wrong on this uh greg or or or or chase or scott but looked a bit almost like pre-confession to me it's like okay i'm going admit it i had to use my mum's money that she gave me now this was an important package of of money there is some significance around this because uh the legend goes that diana left this estate money because she was always worried that they would not be looked after and they would need this money they must always be looked after from outside of the royal family because she worried about this very moment well so it's it's it's laden as he sinks back with that and says yes the emergency money that diana gave had to be used there's just some interesting stories here around oprah and the idea of freedom and then harry and the idea of responsibility that yes you want freedom you want all this freedom that harry going but we wanted actually to have the responsibility and take the responsibility so again being forced away uh not into freedom but just they were not allowed to have the responsibilities or supported in those uh responsibilities um yeah uh no i want to say one more thing just as greg you were bringing up kind of these micro cultures and we were talking a little bit about about hands there i have seen in in other videos of body language people talking about harry they have picked up on his ring movement we don't talk about it in this we're not looking about at it in this and they've said oh yeah you know that's him being nervous and it's exactly what his dad did it's it's a micro culture his dad you know chose would do this all the time mess about with this ring i think it's it's it's learned behavior cultural behavior from his one of his primary resource holders that we always copy the behaviors of the primary resource holders because when we need to align with them and we need to be like them because they have stuff and we don't have stuff and so he's just copied this so anybody who's telling you oh he's nervous when he messes about with his ring no he's just being his dad when he messes around with his ring almost being authority when he messes about with that you know that would be a signet ring not not a wedding ring uh that's what i got for you we got left are we all are we all done it's me scott what you got all right thanks well and i think they've gone into justification mode at this point to as to justifying why they've done this as as as it starts up and what we see is right and i believe you're right greg i think this and chase as well i think he was ready for this answer because he's answering so fast so quickly his his his delivery speeds up during speeds up during this and these are the largest illustrators we've seen on him so far those big ones so he's he's he's ready for it he's comfortable with it and he's not quite loping he's sort of galloping through this but he's he's very comfortable saying that but he but he does start to get a little bit choppy there toward the end of it nobody says he says yep as she's giving the the uh during the question going back to greg's point of um they communicate back and forth that's his way of taking control and being the first ones one to answer because he goes yep as she's going through and then he starts his answer and then when meg starts talking megan starts talking then he rubs his leg so you've got that as an adapter now i don't know if he doesn't know what she's going to say or he's trying to assume it may be something rough or whatever i haven't known the idea and then he locks eyes and uh there's very little blinking when he goes through that that's where he starts getting a little bit aggressive with this because again they're in justification mode or he is anyway because he's trying to justify what's what's happening here so he's getting it out a little bit too quickly as he's trying to do that and then when um he slaps his leg that's when he has that pause when he's talking he waits a second it's real really almost subtle but it's loud enough and a big enough deal to say it's like people um like they're getting ready to say something else so in that case i think that's what the leg slap is about as is i'm not finished yet and i got a little bit more but still he's as he's putting that together to come through he doesn't want megan to jump in and switch things around on him you wanted freedom from from that life you wanted freedom to make your own money you wanted freedom to make deals with netflix and spotify but you also wanted to serve the queen no we didn't want to we didn't want to give up or we didn't want to turn our backs on these the associations and the people that we that we've been supporting but also oh it it oprah exists yeah but is this but also the netflix and the spotify of it all that was never part of the plan yeah because you didn't have a plan i was suggested by somebody else by the by the point where my family literally cut me off financially and i had to afford security for us wait hold up wait a minute your family cut you off yeah in the first half the first quarter of 2020 but i've got what my mum left me and without that we would not have been able to do this all right we're good yeah um my grandmother and i have a a really good relationship and an understanding and i have a deep respect for her she's my cuddling chief right um she always will be your relationship with your father is he taking your calls down yeah yeah yeah he is um there's a lot to work through there you know i i feel really let down because he's been through something similar he knows what pain feels like and this is an archie's grandson um but at the same time you know of course i will i will always i will always love him but there's a lot of hurt that's happened and and i will continue to to make it one of my priorities to try and heal that relationship all right chase what do you got i think this uh initial comment strange uh i think he's trying to become childlike with this little shoulder shrug here and granted oprah is using a technique wittingly unwittingly i don't know but she's regressing him before getting to this question which is a fantastic idea this is called psychological priming neurological priming depends on whose book you read and i've noticed he's starting to do this confirmation stuff he's saying right just like megan is right and there's an immediate shift to chest breathing it's a great illustration of a shift from abdominal breathing relaxed to chest breathing stressed right here when you watch this again take a look just watch this upper part of the shirt here and oprah is using elicitation which is where i'm pulling a response out of a person by statements but she's doing this thing that she is a champion interviewer of using an elicitation statement followed by a small follow-up question to prompt someone to start speaking when he says i feel really let down that's a great locus of control statement not i wish i would have handled it differently i wish i would have done a few things differently that's i feel let down this more eyebrow flash nodding upward tone request for approval and he continues with that approval seeking stuff throughout and when he says i'll always love him there's some eye blocking and head shaking there and i guarantee you guarantee it if it hadn't been done already some body language expert out there is going to say this is a mismatch where he says a statement and he's shaking his head no at the same time that that's not how that works that does not work like that and we have not set this up i didn't even know these guys were going to agree but that's not how this stuff works there's a famous one of scott peterson who did the same thing during an interview and that's not how that stuff works we we shake our head know when we're affirming things on a very regular basis but when he when he does say i always love him there's eye blocking with a single shoulder shrug still potentially deceptive does not meet the score of 11 threshold on the behavioral table of elements but still noteworthy and when he says make it one of my priorities if you look up the definition of priority we've got one there's only room for one thing to be called a priority so i would call that a removal the eye blocking starts with a flutter and then i closure so when he says i'm going to make this a priority paraphrasing there's three removals we'll continue one of my priorities and he'll says we'll try and do x at the end so count those removals towards the end maybe we'll could have put a cool video together with a bell sound uh mark what do you got yeah i think everything you're saying there leads me to there's a lot of complexity going on here i think it's a point in the interview where oprah gets him into a state where he's accessing some emotions that he doesn't normally access now so to oprah's credit there at the same time i wish she didn't interrupt and offer him an out because i think if she'd given him more time he'd come up with a word or an idea that she wasn't thinking of remember when you're trying to interview people interrogate people get answers get truth out of them you already know what's going on in your head you want to know what's going on in their head and their language is often the way for that so for me she doesn't leave enough uh room there um let me point to some more of the uh complexity here um we see i think you know people might pick up a gesture that they might think is disdain when he's talking about his grandmother and we see the lip curl up and i think you know there might be many uh body language pundits out there would go oh look disdain for the grandmother no it's complexity going on here he says she will always be my colonel in chief not she'll always be my grandmother and that's the complexity of being a royal is that your grandmother is your colonel in chief is the embodiment of a country and therefore you will bow or you will curtsy at the same time it's your grandmother like how do you know which one she's being at which point so it can get very very complex very very confusing i think the curl up in the side of the mouth is disdain for the confusion of that relationship not for the for the for the grandmother um again the complexity of the confusion comes in in i'm you know working through that that's the language of therapy and i think we hear further down the line um uh um oprah say you're taking therapy there's a clear example he's using the idea of working through it's a trope of therapy we hear a crack in the voice on pain uh i think he's feeling that pain i think he he understands how sympathy for his father's uh pain he talks about the relationship uh needing to be healed which suggests with the metaphor that it is sick or wounded and so yeah there's some that's that's you know about as emotional i would say as as he gets in this whole piece and i think there's there is some emotional honesty behind there and i would also say as well uh you know i i can't describe the blinks and the flutters in the way that everybody else here can but for me it just looks like a very high blink rate throughout again so i'm i'm feeling the stress of these emotions that are coming through him right now uh scott what do you got all right um when she first starts when she opens up with uh the relationship with your father with that question we see that psy and then him sort of fall back as he's as it's breaking the breaking the the um outer outer or whatever it is shell of getting into into the emotional part of that and what we're watching here and it's he does a great job of this he's walking this tightrope as he's giving these uh replies of emotion in other words because he's not saying anything specific toward his father and he doesn't say his you know he doesn't pinpoint things but he talks about he caused a lot of pain you know he caused pain he doesn't say uh my dad hurt me he said the pain i experienced or have rewards it um from my father i think there's i don't think they get along at all i think he wants to at this at this point um a lot of his his senses are in are ending up in this he talks about his son he talks about what's going on and all those types of things so i think that i think we're seeing true emotion through here as he's saying what happened is explain what happened and that's almost like greg's request for approval with the eyebrows as you go through that and you say that and you have to go up toward the end because it's like you know what i mean you know you've been there before you know what that feeling is and um someone who who is not walking that tightrope is going to be a lot more descriptive with their what's happening emotionally so how's the thing with your father it'd be like we were fussing manny and i don't know what happened you know we were talking and he did you would describe what happened but he's really safe on this he's been and i didn't get this whole thing about what they're at what their product was or how important all this was to them their image until greg said that's what they're selling that's all it really is is an image so that's why all that's so important to him and this kid has learned from when he was a little toddler running around to watch his mouth and to watch how he words these things you never hear either one of them say the only person that mentions the name here is megan when she says her own name she never says harry she says my husband and he never says megan he says my wife or my father or never calls him by their name he wouldn't call his grandmother by her name but his but his wife you know he's gonna he would i would think as you're going through this you would say well you know megan thinks so and so she said harry always says whatever it is you never see that so these are are these replies of emotion walk in a tightrope making sure you don't say anything that that's that makes you fall off of that and say things you shouldn't say or not that not something you shouldn't say but in a way you shouldn't say it that's why you hear all the vernaculars this high-end uh delivery of of concepts and ideas as you go through you know what they're talking about but it just makes him say it's like talking to mark he sounds smart because he gives you these concepts you know what he's saying but he builds a picture as he as he's as he's giving it to you so that's something to watch out for on one hand i think this guy is an idiot on the other hand i go he's really really smart so again he's around that tire for me walking walking you know following either way on those so that's what i got there all right we're good no yeah i still got to go yep oh yeah okay oh you got to go oh count that yeah oh okay all right okay let me let me talk to you hang on okay just going somewhere all right greg what do you got yeah so a couple of things you guys covered up front um the first thing i'm going to say out front is i think this is the beginning of the real story there's a family feud going on and it's not new this has been going on between him and charles for a while i think we're going to find more details my guess just based on what i see but it's a it's probably made much worse by the current situation that's what i think just right out the gate i'll say that up front families are complex things i think you're hitting some of the most interesting two things we've said in a long time and then i'm gonna walk through some very specific body language that makes me think this number one chase you hit it dead on if i do this in a negative situation i'm saying yes it still might mean i'm thinking about how negative it is so you can't read a head shake into that meaning something now if they're emphatic it's a little different that makes a different story and mark you're you followed right into that if something's horrific and i'm thinking about somebody i love and something happened to them i still may have disgust so that's the difference between us as baseliners and looking for deviation and absolutists who think when a person says a name and rolls their lip it means something so let's keep that in mind as we move forward and you're going to see more of this body language from him as we go into this when she says your relationship with your father i'm going to hit all these and you may have hit some of them but i want to roll them all together his noticeable breathing rate increases he casts down left that's the place we all go to think about what we should say next that's internal conversation what what what so that's what to say blink rate up up elevated he starts adapting he has one leg over the other and he starts to lift that leg lift that foot and then that other the other foot flips once i was teaching a bunch of agency folks in dc and they were all young you know they're all energetic and one of the guys looked at me and he looked over at the guy sitting next to him and said what does the cross-legged foot flail mean as if he wanted some magic that means something that energy's got to go somewhere then he drops down to the right and a little bit of disgust before he starts to answer just a little bit of that left side again i don't think it's discussed with his father i think it's discussed with the situation licks and adapts a little bit usually if we think about somebody tongue jutting they don't lick first so then he says archie is his grandson there's distaste there's a problem here being now i'm starting to wonder where this whole thing came from that we're going to hear later and then he says i'll always love him and he drops down into the other downside down to the right where all of our emotions live that's where the boogeyman lives it's where bad things that have happened do you live and you start looking down there if you want to bum yourself out later tonight just sit and look down to your right and start thinking about things that have happened to you and all that stuff will churn up so now i'm starting to think there's a fracture somewhere and it might not be related to but compounded by this relationship that's what i got excellent also i'm going to add to what you guys were saying as well about the the nod your head say you know shaking your head no as you're as it's something positive when you're talking about something negative same thing happens when you're there's the confirmation nod of i'm i didn't do it i'm telling you i didn't do it you see that ding ding right but it usually happens after the after the head shake no it doesn't say i'm telling you i didn't do it it's i didn't i'm telling you i didn't do it and so you see that confirmation nod of that in there so that's the one that goes along with that so we'll hit the other side of it greg so i forgot to do something chase you talk about elicitation i want to plug the master of elicitation a guy named john nolan who wrote the book confidential a mentor a guy i worked for for a while pick up confidential by john nolan if you want to learn how to do this in the street the best john's the best i think the subtitle is uh secrets getting there is keeping yours or something yep john's an interesting guy i took his course and then taught for him for a while and if you really would if you watch the videos he used where he walked into the mall and got information from people it's astounding yeah and you guys love these little snippets of information so to pack what greg and scott were both saying and mark when he was talking about the hands the further a body part is from the head the harder it is to bring under conscious control during stress and anxiety so one more time so actually to that point point chase what we do see when harry is talking about his father is the foot is really buoyant and optimistic and defeating gravity so though you might you might see a head shake alongside him talking about charles you'll see the foot being really buoyant so there's some true optimism there i would suggest in that relationship and i think i first learned that about gravity-defying movement from joan navarro that is john navarro yeah yeah all my books that were going over greg there there's a guy who mentioned it before navarro oh yeah ooh charles darwin okay guys i have that book for you too i just never sent it i'll send it out for you i've got his book on body language with all the plates in it or from um from duchesne oh yeah wow i'll send you the book i bought it for you over christmas and just forgot to send it out is sitting on the table excellent um my grandmother and i have a really good relationship and an understanding and i have a deep respect for her she's my cuddling chief right um she always will be your relationship with your father is he taking your calls down yeah yeah yeah yes um there's a lot to work through there you know i i feel really let down because he's been through something similar he knows what pain feels like and this is an archie's grandson um but at the same time you know of course i will i will always i will always love him but there's a lot of hurt that's happened and and i will continue to to make it one of my priorities to try and heal that relationship all right let's move along did you feel welcomed by everyone it seemed like you and kate at the wimbledon game where you were going to watch a friend play tennis was it what it looked like you are two sister-in-laws out there in the world getting to know each other was she helping you embracing you into the family helping you adjust i think everyone welcomed me and and yeah and when you say was it what it looked like my understanding and my experience of the past four years is nothing like what it looks like all right i'll go first on this one so what we're seeing here to me as she was prepared for this because that was apparently a pretty big deal when she says did the family welcome you or did everyone welcome you or when she says um she was strong yeah yeah um everything would seem to be smooth and fluid everything i think this is this is an honest answer but she doesn't say the only caveat here for me is kate because she doesn't when she asked her if kate that was welcoming her or she felt welcomed by kate she says everyone welcomed me she doesn't say yes she did so i think that's the thing here and i think what happened was it's where you have um two brothers and you got their sisters and they just don't get along for whatever the reason may be i think that's kind of famous you know in my case it's not that famous but i know guys whose um brothers why his wife and their brother's wife don't get along at all not even a little bit so i think i think that's what we're seeing here so she doesn't answer she doesn't answer yes kate was it was uh what helped me or was very inviting to me that's really all i got on that one mark what do you got uh yeah so i think this is one of the moments where megan doesn't play very well and and i think it would be very easy to have a dislike and the reason is this both of them laugh at the idea together chuckle at the idea of going to see a friend play tennis the friend is serena williams so you know you show up an event with uh another princess and you're there to watch your friend one of the greatest uh tennis players ever and there's just kind of covert you know a covert exchange about the frivolity of that in this as we look over this paradise wall garden that that she's contained within at the moment not as i would say not good optics not good optics i would want to change those optics everyone welcomed me there's an audible swallow from her at that point and she says and and and that would be the point greg that i would jump in on that and i want to know what that hand is about she doesn't really get to continue on that what's interesting about th this is is now the the the psychological gestures that oprah starts creating about um it being embraced and and the adjustment and she uses this idea of kind of sweeping together or gathering together and lifting up like these two like like you know megan's world and the royal family is just a liquid that you just bring together and uphold so for oprah being being uh welcomed and embraced and and helped with the adjustment is just like moving liquids together um it could be no no further from the truth that this is as easy as bringing a couple of liquids together raising a glass and going cheers we're all married now and we're going to get on really really well but you know that's just you know for you watching listening right now these are the kind of things that i look out for is how are they describing the world with how they create metaphor with their hands because it's a map as to the way they see the world and how confused they're gonna get when that's just not possible like that didn't happen it wasn't just like uh liquid and then of course um megan says nothing like what it looks like and that's a real tease essentially especially because at the end of this interview she says that that life is stories stories that we tell ourselves stories we're told and stories we buy into and and none of these stories are like they look well unfortunately then how can we believe anything that we're watching right now you've just undermined everything that's going on right now and that's why this scene for me plays particularly badly for everybody i believe uh greg what have you got yes so this one is the crux of the matter i think um when she says there's a thing you learn early in your corporate career in america when you feel like saying but you say and you know i think you've done a great job but you say and that sounds awfully familiar like she's been in some corporate training here that she says everyone welcome me and that sounds out of place word for all of us i think um if i were oprah i would not have stopped at did you feel welcome i mean i would have stopped it did you feel welcome boom stop let her talk let her think let her move but she doesn't she gives her a little bit more information and guys we'll see in a couple of videos down the ultimate the ultimate question that she does that i would not have done i mean oprah's usually a fantastic interviewer but i think if you know somebody it's a little bit different kind of communication style so it puts in a different place my understanding and my experience is nothing like and she goes my experience now her hands are moving so i think there's an emotional event somewhere in all of this whether she feels betrayed because of a person or whether she feels betrayed because she thought that um being a royal was like cinderella and found out it's more like being in the army it's a job and you got to work and work and work and work and people don't expect that i would imagine if she didn't really review this she's now back to informed consent and what she thought was there isn't necessarily what's there and i i said this to scott they have an image to sell i'm sure they're hard on people when it comes to that and i'm not trying to read into any of that i i hear my friends weren't in all this body in all this language she's saying there's pregnant communication that stops short and that's all i see so with that chase yeah and i've gotta severely disagree with mark here on this and i only say that so that you could see mark's blink rate change so she goes into this environment expecting something where we're colleagues mark and i are but where there's some rapport there's some kind of colleagues and it's not there so it's instantaneous stress what's going to happen i'm worried about this i want you to take a look at the photo when oprah cuts to this photo and granted mark if mark said that to me my blink rape probably would have been twice that but look at this photo kate is doing something with her hands and we see megan looking up literally looking up at her and her fingers are copying kate's so you can see her she's making an effort to try to do this and once it wasn't reciprocated there's anger there and there you see that that starts the process of this victim mentality i tried i did everything i could nothing else is my fault but when we see oprah ask the question it's a severely compound question and she gets a severely compound answer that's very hard for anybody even even us to systematically break anything down but there's a failure to answer there's ambiguity there's head nodding for approval and one big one here is when she's talking about the family i want you to watch this arm right here she's talking about the family you see this little movement this little elbow come out that's called a joust i think desmond morris was the first one to mention it a famous joust just within the past decade was obama is speaking to the house of representatives and somebody from the nosebleed yeah i forgot about that area on the floor screams out you lie really loud and he looks over at him and maintains his composure but you see that elbow go out so this is the nervous systems suppression of that little anger feeling that's going on in there so uh i think the answer was concealed and indicates some kind of concealment but maybe not deception and at the very end i think it's uh very appropriate that she's very much trying to make sure the audience knows that these are her words and no one else's this was her experience and no one else's yeah did you feel welcomed by everyone it seemed like you and kate at the wimbledon game where you were going to watch a friend play tennis was it what it looked like you are two sister-in-laws out there in the world getting to know each other was she helping you embracing you into the family helping you adjust i think everyone welcomed me and and yeah and when you say was it what it looked like my understanding and my experience of the past four years is nothing like what it looks like all right they're good yup all right let me ask the question yeah so over a year ago uh you shocked the world you announced that you're stepping back as senior members of the royal family and then the media reported that you had blindsided the queen your grandmother so here's a time to set the record straight what was the tipping point that made you decide you had to leave yeah i was desperate i went to all the places which i thought i should go to to ask for help we both did separately and together so you left because you were asking for help and couldn't get it yeah basically but we never left all right uh chase what do you got so we see instant contempt from harry when the word media is mentioned and i think it was mark earlier you're talking about the hand signals and how we can have this covert language we see harry's thumb drop down onto megan's hand right away and says hey i got this i'm going to answer this question the entire response is vague and ambiguous help for what what kind of help we have no idea and what are these places you go to help is it an office is it a person is it's he didn't say i went to all the people he said i went to all the places so maybe it was stonehenge no idea but then you know honest confirmation at the end there's eye blocking qualifiers he's saying the word basically which i think takes away from the his belief in his own credibility and then says they didn't leave at all at the very end he says we didn't leave at all i think that's a pretty important data point there scott i'll throw it to you all right um one in this it's we don't see i don't think i don't see a whole lot here at all just there's some really tiny stuff going on in harry's face during the question and during the answer as well but then um it's just it seems like controlled frustration to me because everything there's not a lot of movement everything is is sort of locked down and it's as it just seems like that's the only thing i've got for this is just controlled frustration with this and even even that little hand clutch they've got going on i know greg's got some stuff on that probably but it's just the whole thing just seems like frustration to me greg what do you got yeah if you watch this is exactly what i was saying earlier this is a microculture they've got their hands all bundled together so they can communicate without you seeing it and chase it's funny you say those words i got this it's funny because exactly what i said is when he presses his thumb against her he's saying i got this i got it when he first shows we hit almost the same thing so i'm going to roll through them he's just content by exposing that canine on his left and then he has a kind of a one-sided smile it shows disgust in general at the idea with his mouth wrenching he swallows hard his respiration rises their hands are tight he signals her i got this she figuratively bites her tongue rather than talking and then something else happens he rolls his palm now he's been doing that modified fig leaf with one hand over his groin he raises his palm and rolls his palm out like we didn't leave okay that's good signaling and then he does something very characteristic of his family at the very end he chuckles oh like a little chipmunk or something his father did the very same thing when questioned today about this interview it's a def to your point mark microculture all over again he's rolling and it's it's a way to blow you away from him it's just a way to distance would you mind that would you mind doing that laughing like oh yeah like a chipmunk kind of yeah you can use that i'm sure it'll come up again but he sounds like a little chipmunk and charles did the same thing today when he was walking in public and somebody asked him that so learn behavior not necessarily anything other than it's his way of pushing you to distance so yeah mark yeah good good catch on all of all of those uh especially yes the disdain for the media they're the contempt for the media you know that's one of the big themes of this interview uh you know probably why this morning piers morgan went off on one and really spat the dummy uh over it because um there is big pressure from this team on on the media and trying to uh display to the public the deal that the media have with royalty and vice versa and how they were you know thrown to the lions on that deal essentially and that's the way they weren't supported is is the story i think what's interesting as well as you may again you'll watch other body language uh pundits out there who will tell you that that thumb move is uh harry soothing megan or comforting it no he's it's a signal of just as the guys were saying of i'll take this one i've got this one i'm gonna go with this one again good covert signaling there that will look to most like a comfort signal it is it is not um withheld opinion i think when he says when it's the idea of stepping back he's he's already saying yeah it wasn't stepping back that's not the story and he's holding back on that the biggest thing i want to bring up uh because it irks me a little bit is he's wearing suede uh desert boots and uh and he's he's broken his ank you know he's broken the joint in his ankle and he's got the suede desert boots on the gravel and those things pick up you know gravel really really badly and like yeah end up having to dust them off and i worry about the suede getting getting damaged but that's kind of the vulnerable look that he's going for right now like you know he hasn't got any energy left in that leg and it's just kind of dragging in the dirt now he's kind of like an almost like an invalid uh royal he's almost like almost like a russian uh aristocrat you know a little bit a little bit weedy and a little bit in need a little bit you know with a blood disease going on needs a lot of care and attention uh right now so i really do see that him playing to an extent an image of not being strong at this moment again so i think they can set up the idea of uh victim thrown to the lines which could be could be very very true the the british media are you know terrible at times awful at times and you won't want to be on the wrong side of that because they will eat you alive and they just eat you again just because they can because it's fun you know so do you remember the wallace sunshine oh sorry greg yeah go ahead no i was just saying go look at the wallace simpson thing from way back when 80 years ago with how they treated that i mean they they chewed her live all kinds of rumors all kinds of things yeah sorry alan pease uh wrote one of the best books on body language out there it's called the definitive guide to body language very good i cut my teeth on that so to speak but that ankle tilt he named it as far as i know and that little ankle tilt he said was done predominantly by women but he called it the sassy sailor because it was made popular by betty boop on navy recruiting posters in the 1940s how interesting and it goes away in boys after puberty boys do it when they're young that's why when i first watched this you guys saw me texting back and forth hey i think he's got some 12 year old body language here that's what i was seeing and one more thing about the shoes and stuff mark somebody tell me am i wrong it's brown shoes and black socks is that good is that does those go together you know [Applause] his shoes are his shoes are kind of classic german street have to have some desert boots for a kind of a ludlow style a more casual uh jacket that doesn't have um any form in the shoulders which is kind of what he's wearing that's that's a good look you know if he was really going for the the the saint james royal court look just like me he would be wearing probably red socks some colored socks at the moment to really have that that german street look but he's not going that way he's gone way more the idea of i'm hanging out in europe i'm which is not but it is that idea of i've left the court of saint james and i'm now casual uh so yeah it's it's odd to see see dark socks on in that casual kind of roll there so what if i got uh brown socks and tactical boots is that yeah well you've got you've got lovely vibram souls there uh so you know they're not they're very non-slip so uh but you know they're a working man royalty don't wear vibram they're they're they don't have any hands on so here's culture here's culture scott you just defended the entire middle east showing the souls of your feet oh i don't know what are you gonna do what are you gonna do these shoes are kicking in doors though it's not for even even with high quality souls like those surely everybody must appreciate that kind of thing it's all about culture as greg said let me ask the question yeah so over a year ago uh you shocked the world you announced it you're stepping back as senior members of the royal family and then the media reported that you had blindsided the queen your grandmother so here's a time to set the record straight what was the tipping point that made you decide you had to leave yeah i was desperate i went to all the places which i thought i should go to to ask for help we both did separately and together so you left because you were asking for help and couldn't get it yeah basically but we never left here we go you said that you love your brother and always will love your brother you didn't tell me what the relationship is now though um the relationship is space at the moment and you know time heals all things hopefully any regrets no i mean no i i think we've done i'm really proud of us you know um i'm so proud of i'm so proud of my wife like she safely delivered archie during a period of time which was so cruel and so mean and every single day i was coming back from work from london i was coming back to my wife crying while breastfeeding archie that's coming from someone who wasn't reading anything and as she touched on earlier if she hadn't read anything she wouldn't be here now all right greg what do you got yeah so he starts off barriered against the threat he shrunk forward a little bit he's all crunched up his legs are crossed i mean to your point mark it looks like a good resistance posture he's sitting there doing something he mouth grooms a little bit at the start because he's feeling a little stressed as he's talking about the relationship he goes down left to navigate and his hands punctuate perfectly space so it's what he's thinking as he goes here's the piece that's interesting for me he says time heals all things hopefully he does request for approval and withheld opinion to your point chase or what i would call emotional compression or emotional control lack of emotion so i don't think he believes that this is going to get healed hmm clue uh mark what do you got yeah yeah i'm with you on those i think i know what you're pointing to on that one greg as to what this might be a clue uh around uh the relationship is space i don't think i've ever you know um uh talked about a relationship in terms of kind of a conceptual model uh it is so far departed from most of our ideas around how you talk about a relationship that i think there's something uh extraordinary happening in this particular relationship at the time um so mean and i think we see anger at that point and then we see from megan a a look um towards oprah i think for vindication it's like there we go now having said that i think that's edited in because we see a head turn and then the next shot it's it's back all the way um so it may be the editors on this remember this is a show i mean you know one of the most watched shows probably this this year so you know there will be some skillful um creation of this content going on uh but yeah there is something very special happening around this relationship at the moment what would have had to have gone on for the relationship to be space yeah i'm wondering what would have caused that chase what do you got so i think uh what we're seeing here is oprah's question about regrets is another way to elicit a locus of control so as a super fast recap a locus of control is do i control what happens to me or am i controlled by external factors that's kind of how we we either have an internal or an external locus of control i teach a course for mostly women on how to identify narcissists really fast and this is one of those things we ask what went wrong in ex-relationship or you know what did you learn the most about yourself and people who have no regrets i'm not saying he's a narcissist but people have no regrets have that external locus of control i'm a victim i didn't do anything wrong ever i've never done anything wrong everybody's got regrets if you're breathing in and out as you watch this video you've got regrets every human does and it's interesting to say no regrets did nothing wrong tried everything we did nothing wrong everyone else is wrong except for us strange ways to sell the video we see the lip compression greg talked about i'll skip over that and when he says i'm really proud of us it's immediate requests for approval not from megan but from oprah i thought was interesting and the first attribute he mentioned was his wife's ability to give birth which i thought was was interesting his hand even gestured towards her her belly uh when he was mentioning how proud he was of her but after the the rest of his compliment megan turns back to oprah with this uh this pride look on her face like how about that it's almost like that's what you're hearing and this was all honest to a degree but i think it shows a serious issue with the unit the couple unit with uh locus of control and not owning at least let's own maybe point zero three percent own that much of what's going on and that might help a little bit scott yeah and and i agree with chase like i would say it's beginning we're seeing this thread of narcissism run through here this is this is a perfect example of it as well nothing we didn't nothing as we did is wrong everything you know everything's fine and in a couple minutes she's going to turn it sit and put it all on him there toward the end but one thing i did see when uh you guys have covered everything else so one thing i did say when she said you have any regrets his hand flips over now when you're speaking with someone especially um and uh you know you you read mark's books it's all about the open-handed gestures and all that but the risks are very important because when when women feel safe and they're at speaking of women chase when women feel safe you'll you'll see and they're attracted to someone you'll see the the wrist will be buried quite often you'll see the open hand but you'll also see the rest as well and when she says this uh about do you have any regrets his hand flips over maybe it's just the thing he's going for a comfort thing or whatever or as an adapter but or to make himself more comfortable but that's the one that caught my eye and that was really the big one that stood out for me so i believe he does have them and i don't think we're going to find out what they really are but um that's all i got and scott to your point the moment as as one of us who doesn't just know interrogation stuff and influence but we we know a lot about behavior the moment that risk flips over if i'm doing the interview probably if you guys are i say do you have any regrets and your wrist flipped over and i say well you know what there's a columbo uh thing involved there but i say you know what just i mean what is your number one thing that you you wish you could have done differently and then i'll take that opportunity to re-paraphrase the question to give them an opportunity to save some face and continue to answer you said that you love your brother and always will love your brother you didn't tell me what the relationship is now though um the relationship is space at the moment and you know time heals all things hopefully any regrets no i mean no i i think we've done i'm really proud of us you know um i'm so proud of i'm so proud of my wife like she safely delivered archie during a period of time which was so cruel and so mean and every single day i was coming back from work from london i was coming back to my wife crying while breastfeeding archie that's coming from someone who wasn't reading anything and as she touched on earlier if she hadn't read anything she wouldn't be here now all right megan shared with us that there was a conversation with you about archie's skin tone what was that conversation that conversation i'm never going to share um but at the time at the time it was awkward i was a bit shocked um can you can you tell us what the question was no i don't i'm not comfortable with sharing that okay um but that was that was right at the beginning right um like what will the baby look like yeah what will the kids look like yeah what would the kids look like but um that was right at the beginning when she wasn't going to get security when members of my family were suggesting that she carries on acting because there's not enough money to pay for her and all this sort of stuff like there was some real obvious signs before we even got married that this was going to be really hard chasing here chewing i was trying to speed it up [Laughter] all right chase what do you got but we see an immediate shift to internal dialogue here and the cool thing about this is it happens during the question so while he's being asked the question there's a shift to internal dialogue which means it's more likely to be deceptive second there's a short giggle before he says he's not going to share this and i think he's borrowing this behavior from his father who does this a lot we talked about this and i think he's borrowing this behavior because he's borrowing it from an authority figure this helps him to deliver the story with a little bit more authority he says the words awkward and shocked his hands are fidgeting like crazy he's not comfortable sharing it but shares it in a way to paint the picture that he exactly needs he says i'm not comfortable sharing it and then shares it anyway which i think is pretty interesting and he says when he's confirming yeah what will the kids look like there's a single-sided shoulder shrug there which indicates he lacks confidence in what he's saying and the signs that he's talking about do not involve horrible conversation he simply adds those in afterward the other signs that he's talking about he adds them in afterward to give the first thing more credibility and i'll give you an example of how this has worked on you in the past smoking is not permitted on this flight and federal law prohibits tampering with the smoke detectors in the laboratories smoking is not against federal law but those are attached together to make you associate smoking in the airplane bathroom with violating federal law but that is not together so we're i'm taking a bunch of things and putting that after to associate credibility with truthful things with the one major thing greg i'll pass it to you yeah so here's one of those rare times that we don't see the same thing chase when i see the guy looking down to now remember i'm an eye movement guy so i'm all over eye movement yes he is looking down but instead of being down to the left he's down to the right and down to the right will restore emotion if this is truly an emotional moment for him it would be there he would be talking from fact now he may have to access back up if you were telling us the words used but the feelings when you're talking about feelings and i'll get a great example again think about the last funeral you went to think about the last emotional moment in your life watch your eyes drift heavy they make your head heavy they make your whole body language shift so i trust that body language in this case and then he does a contempt half smile and exposes his teeth which is kind of out of baseline for him because he doesn't show his teeth a whole lot for some reason whatever that reason is he adapts it awkward i agree he adapts very much there and then he says that was right at the beginning right tongue jet this is not and there this is a transference let's assume this happened i i don't see a reason not to write here let's assume it happened oprah and megan are talking about archie he's not he's not talking about archie he's talking about her he's saying somebody said something about her and what color his kids would be the transference then of course is yes that's archie but i don't think this conversation occurred about an unborn baby it occurred prior to marriage and i would be interested to hear what he says and see if i'm right there but i think this is the beginning of the fracture and this is what brings that 12 year old kid back into the picture so for me i see here that i believe somebody said something to him along those lines and he's not telling us exact words but all the body language is there for me to believe that he somebody did say this to him now i'll be interested in who and where it came from scott all right i think i i i don't know exactly who it came from but i got a pretty good guess father is brother and here's why i think that chase i agree with you because what like we've heard him say right because he's he's around megan all the time and apparently she's the one that says that all the time that's not something as you i've never heard a royal speak that way i don't follow him and all that but from what i've heard i've never heard him say right a lot those confirmation rights now having said that as as you one example is his the tone of his accent has changed here it's gotten stronger it's gotten thicker when people go hang around people they like for example i know when greg's had people in from out of town that are like family because his accent gets heavier when my wife amber yeah when she goes to visit her friend cindy and chad she comes back i can hardly understand her because they're both from mississippi and they get together and they all those people get together i don't know what she's i can't understand her accent's so heavy when she gets back so he's so what he's doing he's remembering that conversation and as he is he's dropping back into that as he as he remembers those people or the person that talked to him he remembers that accident how heavy it was that's one reason i think it might be his dad because it's his dad's is really heavy that's what it reminded me of in the first place because for some reason i always catch on to accents and listen to him and i can pick those things out for some odd reason and his brother's is is heavy but it's not as thick i guess you'd say is his dad's his brother's i i would say is a little bit more shiny than his father's his father's is is just there i mean it's it's thick and it it's on so i think it's one of those two because he's mimicking that by accident it's coming out of him as he's remembering that so and i agree with you greg i don't necessarily think they they might have said what's the cat what are the kids gonna look like but he but it might have been he assumed it was an attack on megan going forward with that that's what i think happened there um because he was he seemed you know to me he looked truthful and it was fair fairly fluid with his answer but he was stopping but he's i think he might have been ready for that because i i think he knew she asked that and i think he was he was ready to answer that but i think it was either the father of the brother and i think they did indeed ask it all right mark what do you got yeah so uh what i see is a slow blink of acceptance agreement when the idea of the conversation is brought up there's a slow blink which for me uh is is an acceptance of that event happening uh yes internal thought he says he's not going to reveal the question but then he does really reveal the question it doesn't take much to get him out of it which is what will the kids look like chase yeah you could be on onto something there with that shoulder shrug that it's maybe not quite that it's something else good catch on that here's what nails it uh for me is he says it was awkward and it and he was a bit shocked now often people would look at that and go well that's kind of minimizing what you mean it's awkward and a bit shocked for aristocracy for royalty for something to be awkward that is the pinnacle to be a bit shocked that means that means it's like all hell is breaking loose here because you are never awkward and you would never be shocked by anything because that would show a lack of control a loss of being of being able to predict what's going on for so for him to say it was awkward and i was a bit shocked that's huge i would suggest so i think something did go on uh here at the at the end of it we get we get again that megan look of vindication over to oprah hey just sit just see what's been going on do you see how this has been and then he says it was really hard and chase you'll love this bitter taste in the mouth as he talks about it being really hard and then there's a snort out as well that peach does as well so a bit of taste in the mouth snort out like doesn't like the taste and the smell of of what went on here so i truly think something went on here i do believe something went on yeah for sure there okay guys i i think we all saw something there that's a good thing yeah yeah megan shared with us that there was a conversation with you about archie's skin tone what was that conversation that conversation i'm never going to share um but at the time at the time it was awkward i was a bit shocked um can you can you tell us what the question was no i don't i'm not comfortable with sharing that okay um but that was that was right at the beginning right um like what will the baby look like yeah what would the kids look like what would the kids look like but um that was right at the beginning when she wasn't gonna get security when members of my family were suggesting that she carries on acting because there's not enough money to pay for her and all this sort of stuff like there was some real obvious signs before we even got married that this was going to be really hard all right what you've described here today being trapped and not even being aware of it and all the things that it transpired and then she comes into your life and then you're doing therapy do you think in some way she saved you yeah with without question there was there was a bigger purpose there was other forces at play i think throughout this whole process i'm the last person to think oh yeah you know but it's undeniable when these things have happened where the overlap is so yeah she did without yeah without question she's safe i would i would i mean i think that's lovely i would disagree i think he saved all of us right he ultimately called it and was like we've got to find a way for us for archie and you made a decision that saved well certainly saved my life um and saved all of us but you know you need to want to be saved all right i'll go first on this one this is what i was talking about the very beginning we see that the threat of narcissism that's run through here this is where she turns it all and puts all the blame that's happened to everything whether it goes because it doesn't look like it's going going well or it doesn't make them look good everything is happening she puts it on him he saved us he did this he made the decision to to to save us and we have to want to be saved that is for me that's almost the this is the peaking of narcissism right there where she turns the whole thing around just dumps it on him classic i think it's awesome i mean it's not great but i mean awesome as as in what a tactical move that was i mean brilliant really from a narcissistic standpoint to make sure your ego stays intact great job for the narcissistic front wow okay chase what do you got i don't have much this is like uh this is like a season finale of the bachelor interview but i'd like you to go back and just when you when you watch this again here right at the end of this video before you subscribe imagine that oprah asked him a question what he thinks about his mother's death and listen to the answer i think there's more coming out here because if you watch the full interview this question has some depth to it and it had some what's called pretexting or priming to it a few minutes before this question came out so i think there's an answer here that's got some latent uh information here that's not just about what's what's being said uh greg yeah i i think you're dead on with that with the priming getting him to a position where he's more liable to talk here's an interesting thing i i heard both of you guys or many of you guys say earlier who that oprah isn't harsh or cruel really that's one of the harshest and cruelest questions i've ever heard ask you're sitting next to your very pregnant wife and ask her don't you think she rescued you well um what do you think the answer should be in this case there really is no option to say no in this case he's he's in the road he's got to do whatever he needs to do watch him go down to the left and think about it before he says no before i'm like really i i'm smart enough to figure that one out if i have a pregnant wife i've just gone through all this stuff with and i have to think about it that's it's actually kind of amusing for me but as i watch through it he goes then over down to the right and contemplates and thinks and his hand is at his crotch he's in the modified fig leaf again and he's regulating he's you know he's got that other hand over to the side the thing that bothers me a little bit about this that i think is a something i would watch in his body language moving forward when he talks once she says he saved us and he's saying whatever it is he says there's no softness in his face i think when people are saying oh you're right yes she did save me there would be softness in your face now i know he was a soldier but i was a soldier for 20 years i love my wife if she said so if i were really saying something i thought you'd see softness in my face as much as i have so there's some interesting little indicators in this body language but wow oprah that's like a punch in the face with him sitting right there next to his wife an interesting one to see uh mark what do you get yeah so if you want to end uh a piece of prime time tv end with a grand narrative and that's what what happens here other forces at play they evoke spirit gods oh first of all there's the idea of being unconsciously trapped therefore you know you you can't the gods aren't helping you your own mind isn't helping you but the spirits and the gods come in also there's the release of therapy as well so unconsciously trapped you have therapy suddenly there's a release and yes the spirits and the gods help you the spirit here is probably something being hinted out there around diana the idea of her looking over him british are going to love love love that i that idea because she is the nearest thing to a goddess people have seen the most famous woman in the world potentially named after a goddess that the the goddess of childbirth so you know good evocation there to happen the idea the word undeniable is used it's undeniable well you could deny it you could deny it but since you say it so strongly and it's at the end of the show go on let's go with it fantastic and then like you might think it's over you might think it's over but here's what happens yes she elevates him megan elevates him beyond therapy beyond the spirits beyond gods and says no it's all him so now she's elevated him into a a super god-like situation and there they are in paradise the hero's journey with the gods exactly the reality hero the reluctant hero yeah star wars it's it's beautiful so uh great enter to a to a show there fantastic grand narrative job yeah now as at the uh in video three we left something out specifically we all talked about and said look let's not talk about this that way you can go back and take a look and see if you can find a lot of people got the last time we did this a lot of people nailed it let's see if you can go back to video three and find out what it was we left out in this all right now and also subscribe if you haven't subscribed if your first time watching go ahead and subscribe and uh all right fellas i think that's it that was a good one that's a good one yeah see you next time see you bye now foreign

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Id: AYyEx20DiKU

Length: 118min 21sec (7101 seconds)

Published: Fri Mar 12 2021

Reddit Comments

[u/kmstarlight]

I analysed them without the psycho mumble jumbo and no expert will change my mind. Harry is as weak as piss. Meghan is a manipulative control freak. That's all folks!

[u/Negative_Difference4]

I watched this and found it fascinating... good that they had a British guy on the panel for context

[u/drummersparkles]

I am pained to say I watched half of this miserable episode of the most boring men on earth micro analyzing this couple. 🤮

[u/HurleyGirlATX]

Given that body language analysis is regarded as pseudoscience, I'm going to say this is kind of bull.

[u/fljen]

Posted this elsewhere but, for whatever it’s worth:

GoFundMe Page Set Up To Cover Meghan Markle’s Mortgage Fails Miserably

🤮 From daily caller

[u/alienfarts1234]

Lol does stuff like this make anyone else go out of their way to present unpredictable body language and behaviors?