Thoughts on Every JoJo Antagonist

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I'm gonna skip straight to the Diavolo part and if he's gonna trashtalk my boy I will phisically manifest in his house and KEKKA DAKE DA him

👍︎︎ 15 👤︎︎ u/Owl_with_a_Chainsaw 📅︎︎ Aug 03 2018 đź—«︎ replies

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Valentine > D I O > Kira > Pucci > Dio > Diavolo > Kars

👍︎︎ 1 👤︎︎ u/NothinButTorque 📅︎︎ Aug 03 2018 đź—«︎ replies
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So, I had a video on my thoughts on every Joestar and I was told to make one for the villains. There is a lot to go over so I’m not going to bother with trying to make an introduction for this. On Dio Brando of Phantom Blood. I’m sure that there are many that know my love of Phantom Blood so it’s a given that I liked Dio. I actually just came off of a video about the symbolism of his vampirism and that was just because I was rereading some panels. The ability to constantly find new things in Phantom Blood and other older parts is so cool to me. But, I’m not sure what I have to say on what I haven’t already. Well, for firsts, I’ve always loved Dio’s character for what he came out to be in the part. His fight for life was admirable and seeing how he kept that mentality when had got into the Joestar home interesting to me. Many people had hated Dio for being how he was to Jonathan, but it made legitimate sense to me. The only one who Dio knew that was genuine to him was his mother, and she had died. It’s possible that it gave him the mentality that being nice to the people of this world makes you weaker which would make sense for a lot of his approaches and why he’s so surprised on Jonathan getting stronger, but that’s up for interpretation. But seeing that life was just all-around terrible, it just triggers that response in people and turns them into something else. If you want to look for other examples, then you can look at Keicho Nijimura. I’ve brought up the Nijimura’s for two videos already. Wow. But looking at Keicho, him facing all this strife at such a young age and made him in this grizzled and brutal person in comparison to his original self which was just a big brother looking out for his younger brother. That’s the case for Dio, but it’s worse because he was forced to only look out for himself in that environment. What’s interesting is that I can’t even say that he’s one of the more nuanced characters in Phantom Blood because the major characters that we have are also like this. There will be a video for the other characters, but this is just not that video. But speaking on the other levels of Dio. I think one big thing I was interested in is Dio’s crying. I feel like this was one of his first versions of “How I win doesn’t matter”. Referencing his action of using his own blood in the fight between Jotaro. I feel like this isn’t thing that Dio developed overtime, it’s more so what’s already existed. I already think that Dio in his final fight and how he goes insane is because he’s getting connected back into his original self, but that’s something else. Each time that we had seen Dio tear up, it was because he had a plan in the back of it all and it’s so odd and interesting because you see Dio as a character that holds himself in such high regard, but he also let’s himself do actions that would normally be looked at as weak. He’s like “Yeah I’m the best person in this room, even if I play scummy” because scummy doesn’t matter to him, it’s just about securing the win. What’s also interesting about is that he doesn’t think about other “humanly things” because he’s also past them too. He can’t worry about living with no regrets because he has nothing to be regretful for and regret to begin with doesn’t exist to him. He can’t worry about things that would normally leave a bad taste in people’s mouths because he doesn’t feel things like guilt or embarrassment. The last thing I said is more so onto Dio in Part 3 which I’ll be talking about later. The Dio in Phantom Blood still feels embarrassment when he gets himself into losing situations, but by the end of it he just acknowledges his losses and tries to circumvent against his setbacks that those loses cause. I also love his respect for Jonathan. He acknowledges the losses that Jonathan gave him and realized that being a vampire wouldn’t make him miles ahead of Jonathan because Jonathan’s own power is stronger. He holds this respect for Jonathan because of all their experiences and how Jonathan has consistently beat him once he grew up, and I like that a lot because of how it transfers into Joseph and Jotaro. He doesn’t care for them at all because he doesn’t see the power that Jonathan had in them because they aren’t the most noble and nicest guys ever. They don’t really care about talking about stuff between them, it’s more so that they want to get rid of him and that’s it. So, his respect for only Jonathan makes sense, especially since there was history behind all of it. I have a lot more to say, but I can save that for a video specifically on Dio for later. Final thoughts, Dio is iconic. Now for Kars, I’m sure that many of you that have been subbed for a while already know my history with this character. But reiterating it here. I believe that Kars had the best character story in Battle Tendency and possibly even some of the best in the whole franchise. It’s just that the use of Kars doesn’t match to how much was done with him in Battle Tendency. Of course, a lot of people had just seen him as this final boss and probably would’ve liked Wamuu for a final boss instead of Kars, but it’s more so that Kars was made to be as involved in the part. Though even with that many people can understand the depth of his character. Just off his stand-alone actions and character history. Just the concept of being a genius wanting the best for your people then getting betrayed because they can’t get behind what you’re doing had me like Sammy the sonic fan just yelling the old pillar men like “Ah! Idiots!” Kars does all of this for you, and what do you try to do? But what put the cherry on-top was Kars being the one to end his own people. His creations original made so that his people can stand together but seeing how they were it made it apparent that you can’t have everyone on the top with you. It’s a lonely spot. Plus, you don’t know what he’s ever feeling because a lot of it is put away with his mentality to win and be on top. This motivation was originally the motivation to push his people to be better, but it converted to him, so you can imagine how strong it is. All this character and then you have Joseph running up on him trying to stop him. How I saw the situation is that there’s you, which is Kars, and then there’s Joseph who’s the fly. You originally were swatting at the fly and it kept getting away, but now you finally got your fly swatter and it’s time to stop the fly. You end up getting a wing off, but after doing that, the fly sends you up into space by a volcano. Off that scenario alone, I’m sure that a lot of you have pieced up why I don’t do metaphorical scenarios often. But on Kars. Ultimate Kars is one of the coolest things to me. I did a video on Perfect and Ultimate Life forms and I talk about the troupe, but saying it here, it’s probably one of my favorite troupes due to see these characters becoming all these things and it just looks so cool. There’s also his Bone Blade which I also love because of how slick he is with it. Final thoughts, I absolutely fucking love the way his voice actor says Light mode. On Dio of Part 3. Well, there’s the thoughts I had on previous Dio and some of them adapt into here, but I’ll try to start fresh. So, a lot of what made Dio cool was that he had lain mysterious for a good amount of the time. And it was interesting to see this because he’s built up to be this legend basically. I want to mention my interest in his manipulation of those with so much misfortune, but that goes back to my video on vampirism so it would just make more sense to just go watch that then for me to go over twice. But while his manipulation is still on the table, there’s something that goes hand and hand with that and it’s his heaven plan. When it’s made relevant and you go back to Part 3, it begs the question which is manipulation and which is a genuine interest in the person. Because it’s true that Dio needed Stand users to hold off or end the Stardust Crusaders, but with Dio’s involvement with some of the stand users, you don’t know if he’s genuinely interested in them or not. For example, I think that he actually cared for N’Doul in the way that he explained to him, but not to the point where he would prioritize N’Doul over his own plan. The feeling is more so like, “Hey, if you take out the Stardust Crusaders that will be great, and I’ll be sure to involve you in my plan once it’s done. ” But what’s odd is that we see that not be the direct case because of the story he had seen. The thing is, I actually have this little thing that I’m working with and it’s basically that Heaven Ascension Dio is not the direct 1-to-1 product of the heaven plan. That’s just something for later. I’m not sure that I would really have more to say with Dio? There’s something that’s pretty funny being Dio looking at the new world and wondering what else did he learn about when he was roaming around. Last thing I can think about being that I was on board with Dio not being as involved in Stardust Crusaders. A lot of it was great to see the group come across new enemies and that being a weekly thing that happened for the manga made a lot of sense, it had probably adapted odd into the anime because a lot of people won’t see it as that when watching. Another big thing was the issue of pacing because we had seen the pacing in DIU and that was just so much better. But regardless of the matter, I wouldn’t want to have Dio involved really. I think what would’ve been cool to see Dio and Joseph talk through the use of their Hermit Purple stands and Joseph asking why is Dio like this and Dio explain the history between him and Jonathan and his admiration of him, but then Dio finishing the discussion with a threat to the whole group. Little things like that would’ve been pretty cool to see because there’s not that much that the group knows about Dio and Jonathan. I’m going to try my hand at another metaphor. Alright so how I see it, Jonathan had saved the game and the Stardust Crusaders continued it to beat the boss. While that is also terrible, I’m sure that you guys understand what I’m getting at. They jumped into this huge fight between bound fate and they definitely have the potential and power to beat Dio, but they don’t know all that had happened for between the two. At max, Joseph knows about all that Erina was there for. Aside from that, nothing else really. I would’ve love to have thought that Speedwagon would tell all of his tales with Jonathan to Joseph, but that’s just apparently not the case at all which is unfortunate. Finishing it up here. I also don’t dislike Dio when he’s going all insane against Jotaro. I feel like when that’s happening, he’s tapping back into his original self and was getting further away from the matured person who we had seen for a lot of it. It’s not because of him taking the blood from Joseph, but more so on this is the product of Jotaro pressing him the same way that Jonathan had. Jotaro beating up Dio had triggered Dio’s original memories of getting beat which just ended up in him tapping back into his original self. And him going crazy was the same as when he had first became a vampire. Getting even stronger and believing that he had the final checkmate because he could regenerate faster and could stop time for even longer. Even after all of that he still lost, which is what exactly happened in Phantom Blood. Now with something like this, some may ask about the actual end of it all because Dio did win in the end of Phantom Blood. Well, that transfers over also, but we have to go through two other antagonists before I get there. So final thoughts, great design. Now for Yoshikage Kira. Now there’s been something going on because people had always thought that Dio was my favorite of all the JoJo antagonist. And until I dropped the concept of favorites out of my head for JoJo, it was originally Kira. See, I’ve seen so many comments Kira and Part 4 and there are people that don’t like both because he’s not a character like Ultimate Kars or Dio. They feel like not that much is a stake and that’s why they don’t like it. But, that’s a complete opposite for me. I love that Kira isn’t a character hell bent on world domination or anything like that. He’s a man that wants to live a normal life while also taking up his interests. Granted, his interests are madly insane, and he should probably get a different hobby. I’m playing, but I really do love Araki for Kira. Most of the time, we have a pretty major villain to the grand scheme of it all, but for Kira being who he is and creating this whole mystery thing we had going on in Morioh, it was a breath of fresh air. I love the pursuit to find Kira and what it takes to stop him, but it’s probably because I already have a strong love for that mystery thriller type of fiction. Man, I love Monster. If you all haven’t seen Monster please do, if you like Kira I promise you’ll like Monster. Maybe, I don’t know. Back on Kira. I love how intricate Araki had made Kira with his fate and mental state. I would have love to seen how he thought up all these things for Kira, but it doesn’t look like I’ll be getting anymore Jojonium excerpts on Kira anytime soon so, I’ll just hold onto that thought. Though for all these things in his character and for Kira to get slapped around constantly with irony was amazing to me. Final thoughts, if you’re wondering why I haven’t talked about Killer Queen, I already did that in my favorite stands video. I’ll put it in the end cards for those wondering. Now, on Diavolo. I don’t know who gets the most flak for not being read correctly. Diavolo got lost in translations, Pucci gets flak for being in Part 6, and the case of Kars made sense because of reasons I mentioned earlier. See, Diavolo was an antagonist I was originally told not to care for when reading Part 5, but when I read and reread, I was massively confused. Diavolo’s character was one of the coolest ones I’ve seen in general, when it comes to anime. His huge drive to destroy his past to hide himself from the world. All of this because the belief of the past making you weaker or it’s something that people can use to control you now. Which is a huge concept that’s very much existent to this day. What’s crazy is that he had a complete reason as he wanted to get rid of the past. As soon as his own people found out about Trish, they dipped out on him and started to go after her to get at him. Then there’s Diavolo’s wrath which is just… Man, I can’t wait for the anime. Those that have read Part 5, you remember what he did to Sorbet and Gelato? Man, that’s metal. Not referencing Risotto. Then there’s the whole Doppio situation to where you don’t really know who was the original one even though it points to Doppio pretty easy when describing how Diavolo use to be, but the thing about that is that you don’t know when this started so who it really is underneath it all is up in the air. Then there’s his constant contrasting on how bosses should work, morality, and a lot more to his character. Thinking about it, I would have to pinpoint each thing to describe it to its fullest in separate videos. There’re levels to him, and I really do like him a lot. Final thoughts, King Crimson being his stand combined with his motives? There’s no truer poetry than that. Now on Enrico Pucci. Taking up the mantle of Dio has never looked better. Man! I love this guy. First, while they’re on equal terms and hang out like how regular friends do, I believe that Pucci had Dio in this position to where he’s almost father like. It makes sense because he loves him like how he loves God so it’s an good enough admiration. But Dio hasn’t really had anyone like Pucci to where he teaches him so much and turns his life around. Dio didn’t exactly son him, but he was definitely a mentor for a lot. That being said, for someone to be the product of a matured Dio and was taught and crafted to be better, Pucci was exactly that. The way that the Stone Ocean gang comes for Pucci is the same way that the Stardust Crusaders came after Dio, though he knew when to call it and get in to take care of business himself. All the gang knows is to stop Pucci, but they had never known all that’s going into what he’s doing. To them he’s just another follower of Dio. That’s why when he’s always talking about how they would never understand, he’s right because there would never be a time or place where they could or would listen to him. Even if they wanted to hear Pucci out, it’s his job to take them out so there would be no neutral ground for either of them. Two… Yeah, my first one was a pretty long one. But two, I love him taking care of the children of Dio because since the children of Dio hold Dio’s worst traits, he’s indirectly dealing with the Dio he didn’t know of. Pucci was the only man who could talk to original Dio about how much he fails in comparison to the final Dio. The passion he had when talking down to Donatello, to tell him that he knows nothing about the grand scheme of it all and how he’s so insignificant. I know we can’t get these interactions, but I would’ve loved to have seen how Pucci reacts to Jonathan speaking about the history between him and Dio. Or how Pucci would react to all of Giorno. I would’ve loved to have seen that. Other things I’d like to mention just because. The chase between Pucci and Emporio is an amazing moment. You can just feel the power in Pucci’s strides and his speech on Heaven. Pucci’s strong dedication in it all was another thing. Though when it was all over it made me question on whether not it was fate or Pucci getting ahead of himself. Who knows! Final thoughts, great design. Odd hair. Now for Funny Valentine. Yeah, he’s cool. That’s about it. I’m playing. Funny Valentine was an odd antagonist for me first time around, but after my second read I was pretty interested because I saw Pucci levels of dedication for his cause. Though he’s reasonably crazy. I mean, no antagonist is inherently crazy, it’s just that their beliefs are just so obscure to a lot so that’s why it seems so odd. I think one interesting thing is that Valentine finds it impossible to be viewed as the bad guy, so it makes his approaches a lot different than any of our other antagonists. The rest of them had their beliefs and knew that some people viewed it as bad, or uninformed so that’s why they knew people were going to try to oppose them. But the thing with Valentine, he’s totally fine. Even when he was going against both Johnny and Gyro he just respects how strong they are and even admires them for it. It’s weird, but so cool to me. I’m not trying to say too much though because I’ve already had this other video planned for a while, so I might just wait until then to full elaborate on what had previously. So, final thoughts, I love his hair and D4C is such a cool stand. And that’s going to be it. If you’re wondering why I didn’t talk about any of the stands… Well… I just didn’t. I feel like I’d rather just make a video on the stands by themselves. And well now that I’ve cleared out of the Joestars and antagonists, tell me what’s next. Is it on a specific group? The main people of a part? A different franchise, because I am going to be doing a second Hunter video, but something aside from that too. Tell me whatever you all want to see next and I’ll see if I’m up for it then. Thank you all for watching! You can keep up with me in my media and hopefully I’ll see you all in the next one. Until then, peace out and God speed.
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Channel: Kaleb I.A.
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Keywords: jojos bizarre adventure, stardust crusaders, vento aureo, jojo no kimyou na bouken, stone ocean, battle tendency, steel ball run, phantom blood, diamond is unbreakable, jojo villains, dio, dio brando, kars, ultimate kars, yoshikage kira, kira yoshikage, diavolo, enrico pucci, funny valentine, the world, killer queen, king crimson, made in heaven, d4c
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Length: 21min 34sec (1294 seconds)
Published: Thu Aug 02 2018
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