RoboCop Reboot (2014) - Caravan of Garbage

do you feel it's necessary to make remake any movie and if so what's a Robocop are you not going to be now to redo movies like some of the great movies is really sinful it is there should be a list of 25 movies that you should not ever touch welcome back everybody to Caravan of garbage where we're talking RoboCop 2014. oh come on mate we got it so we gotta also cover RoboCop prime directive when RoboCop fights another RoboCop we're gonna cover that I mean we will another time oh come on mate James I was trying to point out the the pointlessness of just constantly chasing the content and the content will never end do we cover the Marvel comic book where he gets sent to Iraq we cover that or ever wherever it was summer in the Middle East they give him a rocket pack and another gun or something this is in there to do good though right yeah cool okay that's great uh leave a like if you could everybody because obviously off the back of the 2012 reboot of Paul verhoven's Total Recall oh yeah they thought what's next what's another thing we can sanitize that did Paulie and everyone hated it let's do another one that's right I don't hate it honestly it's all right yeah that's what I'm saying on the back of it most people hating it and some people are going no I'm sorry that's slightly more accurate to fill cadek's original story we can remember it for you wholesale yeah because they got the elevator through the center Colin Farrell and Kate Beckinsale and Brian Cranston what yeah well that's like this movie you look at the cast and you're like oh great cast I think Joel Ken went pretty good in this role I mean he's good in general yeah I mean you know there's scenes where he's you know at the start of the movie where he's still human but nobody cares about those no what we're in this movie for is when he's just a face and that's all he's got to work with he's got to work with the face yeah and he's serving that face he's serving face everyone in that face yeah absolutely but uh otherwise we got uh we got Michael K Williams is in this the late Michael K Williams he's great uh Michael Keaton's doing really well Gary Oldman who I find unrecognizable in this role for some reason it's just Gary Oldman but Sans beard and glasses and looking like Commissioner Gordon also he was horny Dracula he could be anybody so true Gary Oldman is just he's really killing it in this movie yeah you feel the emotion and the conflict like coming off that character yeah when you see an actor and you're like wow you've done some acting like you've done some acting before you didn't have to do any acting in this movie technically but you've chosen to do some anyway ah but we get Australia's own Abby Cornish is in this absolutely Jackie or Haley is a as a one of those slime balls he plays so well Rorschach for people who don't know that's right at least most famous Jay Baruchel done some good work I enjoy his work he's doing the like the Slick 80s kind of cokehead yeah yeah of A Sort yeah uh and of course we've got Samuel L Jackson the sort of the the he's Bill O'Reilly he's Bill O'Reilly it's the new version of the media break yeah that we had in the previous movies and it looks like you filmed all those scenes on a blue screen in one day absolutely so the origin of this movie Joshua zetima wrote the script based off the early unfinished draft of the original movie by Edward newmeyer and Michael Miner interesting but apparently Paul verhoven insisted that this was kind of the wrong approach and he wanted this idea of you know this brutal satire of a corporate future and all the humor and work all that into it so they've gone back to a version of this that was supposed to exist at one point or another and I think having you just explained that to me I think what they're going with there and I I think it probably makes sense in a Hollywood boardroom if you're pitching this idea to be like okay well that stuff worked in the 80s yeah we're gonna take the original script we're going to make it very gritty and rounded and now and and look and that's how I felt upon re-watching this it felt like they took apart the skeleton no pun intended of the original RoboCop and when put all the elements down on a big whiteboard and went just went we'll do all that stuff again yeah and in theory yeah I mean we'll talk about why specifically it may not have it's Studio interference but making omnicorp the military industrial complex and then marketing themselves as this Force for good in the world I think that's all kind of solid off the back of like multiple Wars where that's clearly not the case yeah I agree there's some ideas here where you're updating them for the modern day-ish but I think there's also elements of that original story that they've stripped out including the fact that this is PG-13 oh my God but the reason for that was that the budget of this blowout from 60 to 100 million plus okay and so if they've spent that money yeah they want to get it back in the box office and you can't do that if it's just 40 year old men who are like I love the original robot goblins he's going to shoot so many guys right in the nuts yeah I love it you got to get the kids in Hook and be like yay maybe he'll shoot some guys in the nuts he won't no he has a stun gun okay if I'm gonna be critical of this movie and I'm absolutely going to be because that's what I've been a bit of having a bit of fun you know uh are we yeah look much like I would forgive the bay verse Transformers movies if the Optimus Prime in it looked like the Optimus Prime from the cartoon like he transformed into the same truck for you that's a 40 better movie exactly I think before I get to the criticisms of this movie I reckon I'd be willing to overlook a lot of the weak elements of this movie if he kept the classic color scheme from the original movies they even do that thing where they're like we tested this design but people liked it Michael Keaton went that sucks actually and no but I mean look and they do a decent shot at it with with his new version and we see it initially and I'm like this is a pretty decent modernized version of this yeah and then they ruin it by turning it black yeah when it so it just looks like nothing yeah it turns from like this iconic silhouette with this iconic color scheme to nothing and I know like it's about the themes and it's about the drama it's not about the superficial elements but damn it's not it's not just that though damn it's an iconic look and you know it's because by the end of it he gets recolored back to Classic Robocop and then it's like and now you're gonna have more adventures in the future RoboCop you're not are you yeah but I mean surely the idea would be you start him off in the black suit and then when it's time to be full RoboCop you know when they when they give them the redesign maybe the the CEO says my kids don't like the black they think he looks scary so let's make him silver yeah because if saw this guy and you didn't know what he was you'd be like is that Batman this is Batman's Fault by the way it's the Nolan Batman suit as a robot he looks like one of those shock proof iPhone cases yes you know like the builders have so if you drop your phone at a building site it'll be fine that's right if you drop it into your strawberry milk that's a local reference Tradesman in Australia loves little strawberry milks your Big M that's right but there's a scene towards the start of the movie where he's he's having a test run of all his equipment in a warehouse and he's shooting in a bunch of em208 drone robots and there's points in that where I'm like I don't know which one he is because they all look exactly the same but as you as you were saying Mir 20 minutes ago he's got two guns and one's a stun gun yeah is that because if he was going to kill a hundred guys they'd have to make it an R rating but if you say well he's gonna kill 50 guys and stun 50 guys we get a we get a PG-13 is that what's going on potentially yeah I think they put it in to be like well we can edit around this yeah oh yeah because whether they put in blood or stun pellets or whatever that can all be done in post yeah you can decide that much later that's right also the fact that he's got two guns means he doesn't have one iconic gun you know what I mean true he's got one machine gun and another and the stun gun yeah yeah it's not good but I do have a question for you uh James uh if you could have two items ensconced in your robot legs which enabled you to access them instantly what would you have three players two of them two MP3 players that's nice well I would have my phone obviously yeah that'd be one and then maybe like an ice cream cone but an ice cream cone with no ice cream in it no no it would have ice cream yes yes chill refrigerated yes you need it to be clearer basically Sorry God even though this is PG-13 I feel like they do some horror elements in this really well specifically that he's just a face and a sack of organs yeah they take everything away from this guy and I think that is genuinely upsetting that's where we get some of the best face acting when it's peeling away when you're finding out what's left of him that's right and you think you can't really take more off him yeah yeah God horrifying and when he first wakes up and he thinks it's a suit yeah he's like you know get me out of this thing and they're like oh no you don't want that oh and I don't even mind the idea that this time around when he's woken up he knows who he is and the horror of it is that he is 100 aware of what has happened to him right as opposed to The Originals where he's he's forgotten his Alex Murphy yeah and he thinks it's a product not a terrible approach sure and in the rebuild like they give him a hand in the sack of organs in his brain and his face give him his dick what are you doing you don't know that happened they definitely did it okay right did you see it I didn't see it no but it's PJ 13. what do you want yeah you're right yeah that's what I'd have for us RoboCop in one of my legs functioning dick oh man I love how Gary Oldman is very tactful with all the patience that he you know that he works with and operates on you know he's teaching a man to play the guitar again with his robotic hands and whatever and he's trying to be very understanding he's doing this beautiful work but he's got this assistant who's just this blunt instrument where when RoboCop first wakes up and he's like it feels weird it feels like my body and she's like yeah that's Phantom dim syndrome because you lost all your limbs and he's like it's excuse me oh but speaking of you know uh uh Gary Allman's character he's working with people of missing Limbs and so on and so forth there's an early scene he's helping a man find the confidence to to play a guitar again and uh play classical gas play free bird and I think it's that that moment where I knew this wasn't gonna be like the original because he just plays it for a bit and then he loses his confidence and then he stops playing whereas in the original that guitar would end up in somebody's head yeah everyone would be dead in that room that's fine the strings would snap off and shoot into people's eyes you know no you're absolutely right yeah how's about this though we mentioned it but the performance of Joel kinnamon I agree it's quite good and what they've done here this time around they've put him in the suit and then they're mostly CGI replaced him and you notice that especially on the joints like if you look at his legs there's no way that human legs could fit within that and I think it does Aid his performance it is very different from the Peter Weller thing because he is much Slicker he's much more tactical he'll clear a room like John Wick like it's that kind of situation he can run and jump and leap in a way that the original version can't which again I don't think is a terrible idea and I think it's interesting that when they do shut down his emotions at one point for a portion of a movie you notice like a shift in his in his behavior and the way that he he operates like the way that he walks like his posture is completely different also so I think that's a nice little subtle thing that they added to this movie uh he also has the Batman Arkham detective Palace so that's cool I guess he rewinds a crime in his mind oh that's true he does do that yeah yeah there's an action sequence where he finally tracks down his his attempted murderer and he switches on the thermal vision and it all looks very visually spectacular but I kind of I kind of missed the uh the original version where the thermal vision is clearly just like a bunch of people in weird body stuff yeah being colored over absolutely yeah I also think that you know look is this the time to talk about this it's not terrible is it I I think there's some really interesting ideas in here that aren't fully yeah thank you yeah but anyway I like for example some of the corporate decision making in this like before they unveil him to the public they decide to just upload the entire criminal database into his brain that's a huge mistake what were they thinking have you ever tried to update your computer before a presentation or something come on that's obviously not gonna work you set up your PowerPoint beforehand then you test it and then you don't touch anything that's right and then it still doesn't work somehow but I love also and they even mentioned this in the movie that the first arrest he makes in public is a hardened Criminal Who has just come out of hiding after the last six years to watch the RoboCop be revealed why wouldn't you who knows what he's going to do but the finale of this yes I mean it does the thing where he kills a bunch of people that's the thing that RoboCop does well yeah he Stomps into a room and kills everybody and I do like that you know when you see him getting damaged one thing you can't really do with your Originals that you can do now you can chip away yeah him and you can see the you know working and blobbing all through the dude yeah yeah all of that you can lose an arm and all of that and you know he's fighting Edward 209 which are they're too competent aren't they yeah if I were to be critical of this movie and I'm going to be and I have and I will continue to do so sure the the plot thrust is that the evil Omni Corp wants to introduce robots to policing in the United States which would be cool it would be super cool yeah and maybe it's just memories of the the first movie they seem to be pretty good at their job yeah these robots like they're not absolute numb skulls like I mean they should they shoot that kid and they shoot that kid at the start I mean he did have a knife I would say maybe at a rule he could have stabbed that big robot I'm just gonna say maybe they could add a rule to the robot cops that says don't shoot a kid yeah you know I think the point is that yeah the technology in itself is solid but the people behind it are not which I guess is the point of this yeah but see that's the thing also that I kind of feel like Keaton puts in a good performance but he also genuinely seems to believe that this scheme will be for the betterment of the United States like he genuinely he genuinely does believe that putting robot cops on the street will reduce police fatalities yeah but then at the end he's just like but I've got a gun too I've got a gun and I'll shoot your family RoboCop like don't don't turn on this in the last 30 seconds you know what I mean he didn't have to panic did he no he could have just gone don't shoot me and I'm leaving yeah and then he probably would have got away yeah because RoboCop has enough time to be like I think I can shoot him actually yeah there's a lot of where are Michael Keaton's character I would have taken advantage of you know RoboCop struggling his Humanity versus his his programming and I would have just walked back down the stairs yeah helicopter wasn't there just go back down the stairs just killed all those n209s just just walk out you know what I think would have been a good way around it yes you die hard for it RoboCop shoots Michael Keaton through himself oh yeah technically not a pro but he just did it he did he could just do it you could just you could just think really hard about his family and do it yeah yeah but I kind of feel like if we had seen give him his penis what are you doing oh my God the movie needed more scenes I think where the the policing robots are a genuine danger to yeah the people because again they seem to be working fine I don't know they're pretty cool too they're very cool they got that red visor yeah oh my goodness that's cool now one thing we've neglected to mention and I'd lay the blame squarely on you good I'll take it is the theme of this movie or do you mean the emotional things no oh the music no okay correct no may say God so the original theme by basil Pol Doris RIP by the way just incredible but the reason I kind of notice it here is that it just Thunders into the title sequence and I felt like you haven't really earned it given me enough to be like this is a Robocop movie and I don't hate the use of the theme and this Pedro uh bronfman uh did this version yeah he does a great job on this score but it reminded me that oh that's a really good score that we probably should have talked about in the other movies absolutely yeah yeah yeah yeah but you know hindsight is 20 20. or better if you're a robot cop yeah but the thermal and you can do the Batman detective thing that's right oh also speaking of the music uh this this film ends uh with the song I fought the law over the closing credits makes zero sense they should have got Nickelback to do a cover called I upheld the law and I won and I did win that's right anyway so of course as we saw up top Peter Weller was like yeah maybe don't do the RoboCop reboot yeah uh but the other people had feelings on this as well including Paul verhoven obviously you might not know this but he directed the first RoboCop movie interesting he was skeptical of this remake saying that it was typical of the lack of fresh ideas in Hollywood it was even less impressed by the finished movie commenting that just like Total Recall 2012 your favorite movie that's right it lacked the humor that made the original work so well I don't think it is just the humor I think you could really take a swing at a serious modern-ish day RoboCop movie I don't think that's the only thing missing here but yeah he's not wrong this isn't you know that really good movie robocar I've heard of it this one isn't I've never seen it but I've heard of it sure uh also the director of this Jose Padilla he expressed his frustration in the lack of creative control he was allowed by the studio for this project he estimated that for every 10 ideas he brought to the project the studio refused nine and he went on to describe the making of the film as the worst experience of his life when word of this conversation became public in an effort to appease the studios he made counter statements saying that actually it was good well there you have it but look honestly if you're presenting the studio every day with 10 ideas I think they probably should reject nine of those ideas yeah because otherwise that movie's going to be really long the way I presumed he meant was he'd present an idea and they knock her back and then he present another idea no I'm I'm assuming that he said I'm gonna put 10 ideas into the movie today in another 10 tomorrow and another 10 tomorrow it's all him riding pterodactyl that's right and two uh anyway it's time for reboot trivia I love that 2014. yeah here's the names that were considered Michael Fassbender do you mean as RoboCop yeah I just considered generally think about them I like that yeah Michael Fassbender Assassin's Creed Chris Prine potentially Assassin's Creed maybe I'm sure he was offered you know your chance to you know okay uh Russell Crowe I can't imagine him being Assassin's Creed but I can imagine it being in the world of Assassin's Creed I can imagine being on that big swinger good job he's rooting for the South Sydney rabbitohs or whatever in this in the stands but he's on the swing arm from Assassin's Creed absolutely obviously he'd end up going to Joel kinnamon this movie takes place in the year do you want to take a guess second 2014 yeah 2024 2028. oh I was close no you weren't so close you're pretty close in the span of all recorded human history I'm pretty close yeah you're closer than say if you said when there were pterodactyls yeah yeah or Jesus's time yeah Jesus's time similar to the pterodactyl time right yeah also this is the only robo cop movie to be released in IMAX I think by default probably though most certainly yes yeah now the box office for this on a budget estimated between 100 and 130 million dollars it looks expensive doesn't it it does look expensive and I would say generally speaking especially when it comes to the RoboCop visuals looks good looks really good yeah it's a good looking movie The Box Office return though was 242 million dollars which is not terrible but they're expecting if you put this much money into it and it's PG-13 and you know it's a franchise that people love I guess yeah you know but I mean is isn't that that is the Catch-22 there isn't it like if you make it R rated probably fewer people are going to see it I mean maybe but maybe it'll do a Deadpool and people be like I mean this was pre-deadful as well so there's no way the studios would have been like this will work that's true the other problem there is if you make a PG-13 it's just not yeah as good and violent as RoboCop three that's right yeah so a sequel to this oh God uh it was in the woods oh yeah it didn't they didn't make it it would explain when how RoboCop gets his signature gun he finally gets it right at the end and he uses it once and then it's like now it's time for more Adventures RoboCop now you've got your in your gun wow this is like the best gun it sure is RoboCop that's why we made you wait two movies for us now you'll appreciate it more yeah but they've actually opted for a recall which is going to be a sequel to the original movie that ignores two and three okay it's that situation but not RoboCop 2014. no this is happening is what you're saying okay so RoboCop returns originally it was going to be directed by Neil blomkamp he left that project I think he would have done a really interesting job on it I know people don't love all of these movies but I think if you look at his aesthetic you know District 9 chappie he could team up with chappie Matt Damon in an exo suit all of these things you could team up with chappie 48 Hours style oh my God that's right now chappie we're only taking you out of jail so you can track down these drug dealers and Chappy's like I don't know what he sounds like South African South Africans I'm gonna beat you up you Jackman that happens is Hugh Jackman in Japanese he beats up a mulleted Hugh Jackman we've talked about it recently I don't believe you it's true wow what boy that's for a dollar that's what he'd say that's what he'd say that's what he would say he would say that so Abe Forsyth then came on board he's an Australian director if you do not know um and like all the strains including Abby Cornish wonderful there's only one terrible Australian it's Scott Morrison everybody else is the best is that correct that's correct yeah but Amazon acquired MGM in 2023 and they've decided to work on both a new movie and a TV series which will be coming out maybe in whatever order sure absolutely yeah I also think there was maybe I'm imagining this but like a prequel at one point they wanted to work on like a dick Jones Creek one not a not a Alex Murphy prequel regular cop regular Man Regular man at a less dangerous Precinct look how good my dick works look how attached it is incredible anyways wow it's good to visit all the RoboCop movies we've done and haven't we that's right yeah and you know what also speaking of this is better than Ghostbusters too you're right that's true reboots and recalls you know they're the Ghostbusters franchise like immediately falls off a cliff as in my opinion now that's fair yeah uh they're testing the waters with the new game or the new Robocop game yeah I reckon if people respond to that well they'll be like well people love the world of robocops so that's right they love that Peter Weller that's right anyways if you like this if you're like wow great video great opinions on Ghostbusters too guess what what you can actually see these videos early if you head over to bigsandwich.com it's like our private patreon there's also bonus movie commentaries there's bonus podcasts there's video game Let's Plays we actually looked at a bunch of robocon we sure did mixed bag wildly varying quality uh and if you uh like Ghostbusters too but you don't know our opinions on it you can simply go back into this channel a few months or possibly years or maybe a decade I don't know yeah and we've got a little little review of that I don't think any of them are good anyway it's not important important myself not even the universally beloved first one the 2016 one yeah no that one's good yeah yeah Ghostbusters one anyways you want to know what we're doing next week yeah there's a hint Tracy come in Pat this is Tracy also we have a podcast called the weekly planet where we talk movies and comics and TV shows that comes out every Monday if you are so inclined to listen to such a thing we talk at the news of the week and then the big movie that happened that's right and there's always big movie isn't there it's always big movie anyways thank you very much to Ben and Lawrence for the artist thanks guys see you guys on the next one wrap that 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Published: Thu Sep 07 2023