Dredd - Caravan Of Garbage

we're back for caravana garbage last week we looked at something judge dreadful oh james is going to turn around in the next sense he's got a pun play on words for dread that means good right yeah i do here we go this week we're looking at a better movie leave a like leave a like we're of course talking about dread 2012 or dread 3d as it was known when it came out was it that must have helped it was on other posters it's in like a lot of the official titling huh the idea that it was in 3d is not what it killed what killed it it's that it's an r-rated action movie based on a comic book premise that nobody yeah has any idea about marketed weirdly yeah bad faith from the last one people thought it was a sequel the last one knew about it at all i mean the avengers had just come out i think yeah so it was still a comic book movie stigma attached to like i don't know i think avengers was a fluke yeah right okay i mean off the back of you know the dark knight trilogy and the avengers a property like this like a lesser known ish it is it is a risk you know what i mean i feel like if this had come out now it probably would have made more than the 41 million dollars it did make of its 45 million budget oh dear tragic yeah i figured out why this movie is so good though okay i'm ready it has a screenplay by alex garland and you might be like alex garland from ex machina and annihilation and the guy who wrote sunshine and i say yes the very same that's right and apparently carl urban has mentioned he's the one who actually directed this movie like the actual director director you know he was involved to sub-extend but this is really considered alex garland's first directorial efforts very interesting is that scandalous how does a writer direct a film are they like more description say more description these words say these words the way i've written them or maybe put your own spin on it that's directing right i'm not a director i am the director you're not the director anymore i'm the director i'm alex so i think that's why this works so well what else is fascinating about this is it's it's a bottle episode you know what it really is it's not end of the world stakes are high it's like drugs and we'll just stop these drugs is that to cut costs yes there's a lot of cost cutting things well i mean that's the associated with this the the question here is does this really feel like dread judge dread like the comic book judge dread and i guess the second question uh is does this need to be a judge dread movie well yeah and look aesthetically it doesn't really feel that much like judge dread no like it's certainly been paired down it's not like you know weird gianni versace glam of the last movie big heels big boots right a big cod piece yes it's not the you know super outlandish mega cities of you know just the comics and that one street they built in there yes exactly you know the mayhem and madness and everybody is some sort of bizarre neon clown yeah you know on the street it's more like in a an exaggeration of just just modern day yes the modern day slums of the world except expanded out to cover 800 million people and i think it might be the downfall of this movie a little bit i guess but at the same time i really like that aesthetic because they filmed in like johannesburg and cape town they filmed a bunch of regular streets because it was apparently very grid like the areas they filmed in and then they throw in the big towers with cgi yeah a few highways and some cars and here and there but it's all very much real locations you know that really speaks to the look of this movie but beyond that if you look at judge dredd himself they built him like a riot cop yes you know and intentionally you know if you look at he doesn't have like the crazy shoulder pads you know what i mean in the big the big gold chain and the eagle and all that i mean there's an eagle but it's not a yeah but even like the badge is probably the most outlandish thing on it oh yeah i guess but to answer the other question uh could you make this movie without judge dredd you could but no one would see it more or less i i don't know but that's the thing like i think this is a more subtle take on dread yeah you know a great example would be how each particular actor says or screams i am the law i am the law i am the law yeah sure but this particular judge dread he more encompasses the spirit of judge dredd i think yeah because in this he's less of a man and he's more of a uh a vibe yeah you know what i mean when we first see him like we we just see him from like a distance and like we we often see him from like from the perspective of his hand drawing his gun out of his whole stuff there's a lot of shots of him it's just his mouth you know like it's just i mean if you can't focus on the eyes what else you got yeah we get two perspectives in this movie we get rookie judge anderson who at one point we see look out into the mega city from the peachtree tower block they've just come out of a fire fight she's wrecked and ruined by this and she looks out in the cities and she realizes that everything is like that the whole city is like this and the whole city is this awful nightmare yeah but for judge dredd from his perspective this is literally just any other day if you watch it from the perspective of like he does this every single day like every move he makes is just like yeah i'm i'm gonna do this tomorrow and i'm totally fine with that the point where the tower is like locked down and dangerous gangs are out to destroy them he's still like okay anderson you're the rookie make a play yeah that's right this isn't this is still a training exercise he's still in it yeah yeah there's never a moment of panic there's never really a moment of compromise but i guess there is kind of more towards the end but what i think also uh distinguishes him from the stallone dread is he's not the worst person he's not the worst he's fair like he'll stun a kid even if the kid is gonna shoot him yeah there's a little bit of leeway in him he's fair and it feels earned well exactly and that's hard to do even if you're not aware of the character of judge dredd but in the you know in the first one in the 1995 version that version and it's it's hard to do because again judge dredd is supposed to be an iconic character and also a caricature so how do you play that and stallone went with just an unbelievably unlikable character who will not bend for any extenuating circumstances whatsoever and when that character you know falls a fail of the justice system you don't care and he can't comprehend it either because he's like i don't what do you mean yeah everything's black and white and this guy's like this gray area in this exactly right as they approach the peach trees like there's a like a homeless guy and he's like move along yeah he could have given him you know weeks in the iso cubes kind of thing but also that moment really speaks to the character because when he comes back even though he's got a million better things to do he's like i told you you're coming in right you know what i mean he's just he's that kind of guy he's like i'm fair but [ __ ] you like that's that's the kind of attitude i get from this guy i'll get a question about him though yes i don't think he's famous the way that the comic book version or the stallone one is yeah i think he's famous among other cops but most of the other people in the real world they just think he's another judge i think that's true as well and i think it's never i don't think outwardly stated but i think this is meant to be quite early on in the career of judge dredd because again in this judge anderson is like the first judge cadet who exhibits any kind of psychic powers but in the comic books the side judges are quite commonplace like there's a whole division of them to you know use their powers to fight crime whereas she seems to be the first so i think you're right i think this is meant to be early days and yeah he is he isn't a legend amongst the world he's just known amongst other cops is kind of for being a bit of a prick yeah and you get that sense from when he comes up against some crooked judges but there's never bad guys that are like oh [ __ ] it's dread right you know they're just like it's just another cop we gotta show you exactly we the audience learned to respect him because of his actions not because of like a legendary aura that's been dropped on us by the director yeah exactly so i think about this movie as well is it's like it's green but it's bloody and it's awful but it's also it's a beautiful looking movie it really is i mean outside of the slo-mo stuff but also the slo-mo stuff they filmed that at something like 4 000 frames per second don't quote me on that it's probably a different amount of framage but even the one frame per second james you were way off but even you know watching somebody get shot through the face yeah it's black and it's beautiful and it's colorful and it's vibrant and a lot of that was done practically where they'd shoot someone with like an air cannon and get the ripples of their body and then they'd add like the cgi blood splatter or that they'd film in front of a green screen and i think it really it makes you go it's bloody but it's not turn away like wincing you know bones piercing skin and stuff like that you say that but several men are skinned alive yeah i mean though there are except real time yes but you know what do you know what i mean like absolutely the death of ma at the end when she hits the ground you don't really see her like face split apart it's just this beautiful display of like yeah you want to talk about mama i do yeah lena heady who's normally like what i like about this is she's committed to being like a femme fatale but not in that classic way of like beautiful but you know with it with the deep dark secrets and she's she's using a feminine way to reach the top of the food chain no she's just she's killing people all the way up chopping people to bits to reach the top of the food chain yeah like she's committed to the scars and the hair and the teeth and i'd imagine that's something if she wanted to she could fix yeah but it's like no this is very much who i am we don't get a huge amount of screen time with the character but you know we do get enough of orange to be like i get yeah how she actually ended up here kind of oh she dug out domino gleason's eyes that's not cool you say well at all but i understand she's had it pretty rough i think also the reason that you were like was this in 3d or whatever is because it's not it's not filmed in the way that a terrible 3d movie is filmed sure they used all the riggings and all that kind of thing to you know so then i have to post convert it but there's nothing like look out dread there's a bullet flying towards you and and the audience as well look out anderson the only way you're going to be able to defeat these guys is with a ping-pong paddle with a ball and string on it tap it to tap it to tap it to tap yeah so i i think it was probably a waste of time and i didn't see this in the cinemas because i was teaching up north at the time did you see this in the cinemas no i was against movies every time wow what were you doing books yep yeah books yeah books but i don't know i feel like if there was a sequel to this which we will talk about you kind of need to go mutants and more telekinesis and weirder weapons well i guess you know we we can build up to that again if this is early days and and radiation is just causing some psychic abilities in some people but as the dialogue maybe suggests most people are getting horrible mutations we will see that yeah later on but yeah but there's something that i know people want want to know about about you and what you think oh my says mini gun minute correct we do it every week that's right we do it everything from aladdin to zoolander that's right you've got stipulation for miniguns though do you wanna do you wanna lay them out okay well the mini gun traditionally uh it has to be mini at all not many at all they're mini it's a miniature version of the kind they they hang on uh fighter planes that's why it's called a mini gun it's kind of a joke but uh they're not meant to be man portable but in a lot of instances they are like the classic one terminator 2 judgement day correct uh here's the thing you have to have six barrels heavy machine gun that's not a mini gun somehow eight barrels it's not even a real thing are you kidding me whatever movie that is in you what do you stop and three it has to be a real one yeah these ones i think fall down a little bit because they look like they're cgi but yes i mean they are yes but they are cutting through people oh my god the action is spectacular it fits we haven't really even covered that i mean we talked about the slo-mo stuff but the action in this movie expect that scene particularly just just incredibly brutal and speaking of mama just the idea of like you just cut through a level of people she doesn't care exactly you can see the kill one guy yeah you can see the glint of the muzzle flashing her eyes at one point he's loving it she's absolutely lovely yeah see i i would give it a pass if it was james's minigun minute it's not i just want to clarify that with everybody yeah because it is this hyper violent stylized world so i would have thought that maybe you would give it the same but it no it should have been real mini guns and carl urban should have been willing to cop at least three or four slugs sure in order for this to for to get my seal of approval well speaking of dread does get shot in this and i got the sense through this movie that him and his comrade they could die right he's not just like running through when he's fine and like you know he shoots over his shoulder and like four guys fall down but that probably does happen in this movie you feel like dred you need to be careful because there's a lot of danger going on here you know what i mean he feels like he he could die at any minute and then that's just the end of the movie i guess yeah yeah but they also again like you were saying there's no shooting over the shoulder but like they sort of behave like real cops there's a scene right at the end uh where tim and anderson are working their way up to mama they're working together they're clear in the room looks incredible it does look good and there's like a couple of great action sequences early on we get the slow-mo one but we also get a sequence where they're fighting through like the stun gas cloud it's all green and neon yeah and there's another one where they fight you know for a flashbang explosion and that yes i don't know whether it is but it looks real cause often when you see gas in a movie say like batman be superman you can see that it's not quite oh i mean maybe it maybe it isn't real i don't know but i got the sense that it that it was if you worked on the movie dread if you're the gas man yeah please write in let us know what i also thought was really incredible about the way they made this movie there's a sparring use of cgi shots you know when they're going like up the center of the complex they obviously didn't build that whole thing they built one corner of one level and then they just redressed it so they didn't even do the whole side so every time they did it you know they swap everything around and do it from the you know make sure it sounds like they did take something out of uh 1995's judge threat and just that one street they kept moving around now before i do uh trivia three treatment trivia which we do every week yeah you got any more things to add ah just it's a it's a it's a grand old time like it's it's tough i was gonna say it's tough to be funny about this movie it's tough to be funny at the best of times james you know us yeah but um when a movie is just straight up enjoyable and there's no glaring production errors yeah uh it's it's uh hard to make fun of it but uh you know what not all this is jokes all right not all of it is jokes i'll also say that this came out around the same time as the raid and there was a lot of people saying that this borrowed from the raid you know because it's about storming up a building whatever and crime lords and etceteras uh it just doesn't line up time-wise yeah timeline-wise you know what i mean it's they they just they're two kind of independent ideas which kind of developed independently no i think this studio was like the right huh well quick get a c-list uh superhero uh comic book license get a quick bit of building what have we got anyway uh so alex garland actually wrote uh three treatments because this is three treatment trivia we do this every week we do it from every movie from aladdin to zoolander 2. so these are some of the ideas he came up with one was the dark judges treatment which features an encounter between dread and the rival judge by the name of judge death yes what's he all about he's skull he's got a skulled face yeah he's good i'm pretty pretty scully face the second treatment is related to the dread and cursed earth storyline oh yeah which i think did we talk about that last week maybe a little bit yeah you don't have to go out of the cursed earth right it's an option you don't have to take it okay fair enough and the third one was an adaptation of the pro-democracy terrorist attacking the judge's storyline so there you go but they went all of these are too difficult to to kind of get in scope-wise and budgetary so let's keep this bottle episode let's just get dread getting some asthma inhalers garland this is primo stuff but how about think of a corridor think of a car think of think of a regular motorbike if you could carl urban he's really on that motorbike didn't take his helmet off the whole time i should maybe we should mention that um it totally doesn't detract from this movie no how do you like in some great chin acting i mean when that's all that's all you've got a frowning you know like that sad lob fish absolutely great stuff really good hard to do i'd imagine so there's been talk of like this is this going to get a sequel what else is going on in this universe i can offer some updates here because i'd love to see more of this but whether or not that happens we'll see won't we there is a prequel motion comic which you can watch on the youtube okay uh here's a clip of it here what do you think oh yeah i know i just like being there there's also a sequel comic called dread underbelly i actually just read that before the start of this it's very similar there's like there's a new drug on the street and it's even more dangerous than the previous drug so i would have liked to have seen it kind of expand out more because it's fast forward you take it and then it's like two hours later and you just you're on the couch like what and you're 40 years older i missed all my favorite tv shows and i'm 40 years old yeah so i did like it it's a good read and it's a beautiful looking book and it brings in a little bit of kind of the mutant element because there's a mutant refugee kind of storyline going on with it but part of me was like this is a comic you could do literally anything like you don't want to bring in something have you read some of the other judge dread cops of course they do a lot of weird stuff that being said it's cool and the other thing is there's a mega city one series which is happening it's not not happening they haven't said it's not terrific yeah so here's the deal i know that the the guys who have the rights to it rebellion are currently working on developing a tv show called mega city one i have no doubt that will happen at some point in the future whether or not i'll be a part of it i don't know i'm sort of committed to doing the boys but why would they why would they say it's not happening you know what i mean i i don't know carl urban says he would definitely take the role of course he would yeah well carl urban said nah not for me this critically loved uh fan favorite no i wouldn't do it again for money and acclaim nope so according to karl erbert himself uh the concept is to build this show around more rookie judges and the new younger judges where dred himself would come in and out so he stated that he would be interested in reprising his role for this show on the condition that dred's part be implemented in a meaningful way interesting kind of like limitless the series probably and he could do that from home you know how full green body stocking except for the mouth except for the back he films it in his house and make like the shower or something great also great call back in this movie you know when right at the start of the movie he's like are you ready and he's like you don't look ready and at the end do you remember the end and he's like you're ready and she's like yes and he's like yeah you're right you look great that was that was that was sick that was sick wasn't it right yeah if you haven't seen dread and even if you've watched this i don't think it's gonna detract from it it's an absolute banger this is my go-to if i'm editing it i just want something on in the background because it's just it's a beautiful looking movie yes it's a beautiful looking movie great action you can get it characters you can get uh olivia thirlby who played uh judge anderson met her husband on the set really yeah so it's worked out she should be in more things except for the money people it didn't work out for the money people at all we feel bad for you but i do think though a series could definitely work from this now i think there's maybe lower stakes in terms of monetary requirements you know you can build up characters over a series of episodes you can get a cult following you know you can do it week to week so people you know it gains that kind of buzz you know what i mean netflix will give you money for anything give me money then give a [ __ ] they don't care they're heavily in debt and they're giving everybody money it's astounding how am i gonna make that back judge dread series probably not doesn't seem likely yeah but definitely check it out if you haven't but if you're like but what's next week james we've talked about the dread movies have you run out of things for caravans of garbages yes yeah we have no mason there's always things to talk about good or bad because that's what this show is now it's just whatever mostly bad though if i'm honest with you yeah so here's a hint towards next week why are you here oh my god that's a star wars thing it's a star wars thing mason for the mandalorian so come back for that if you want but if you'd like to see it early you can actually go to big sandwich dot co they all go up early all the time along with the extended audio edition of these plus we have other stuff on there bonus podcast we've got movie commentaries there's so many things going on isn't there too much many great contents so check it out if you want also we have a podcast called the weekly planner where we talk movies and comics and tv shows that comes out every monday morning if you want to swing by and check out the news of what's happening in entertainment hot goss that's right or just like they announce the show you know that's we do a lot of that that's true yeah and then we track it for three years before it gets cancelled that's right it's really exciting all right guys see you next week uh grab that dread everyone whoa i'll buy his cod piece no he's just just pants i think he wouldn't even need one would he what does that mean he's just that kind of guy bulletproof penis he's free ball at it oh my god wow see you next week bye

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Published: Tue Oct 20 2020