Radeon RX 7900XT vs. GeForce RTX 4070 Ti, 50+ Game Benchmark @ 1440p & 4K

foreign [Music] box today I've got another Mega Benchmark video for you this time comparing the new Radeon RX 7900 XT head to head with the GeForce RTX 47 shot in 50 games so there are some titles that have been tested using multiple different configurations with without Ray tracing for example so there is plenty of data to go over but before we do today's sponsor spot is brought to you by MSI and the new spatium SSD series these pcie 4.0 ssds utilize the latest 3D nand flash technology with capacities up to four terabytes and offer incredible speeds of up to 7 gigabytes per second for reads and 6.8 gigabytes per second for writes they feature built-in data security with AES 256 encryption and e2e data protection as well as error correction capabilities that extend the endurance and longevity of the nand flash storage you can also migrate data monitor Drive health and performance in real time with MSI Center and for that extra piece of mind all models are backed by a five-year warranty from MSI so for more information please check the link in the video description okay so for this testing I've got my hands on the power color hellhound RX 7900 XT which can currently be had for 830 us which is actually 70 below the MSRP so that's pretty nice to see in fact quite a few 1700 xt's are now selling below the MSRP with some as low as eight hundred dollars not quite as low as we would have liked based on our day one review but 800 is certainly a lot nicer than 900 and does make me wonder why AMD just didn't start at that price to begin with would have made for much more favorable reviews then for comparison we have the Asus tough gaming RTX 4072i which is one of the cheaper 4072i models available right now despite the fact that it is priced above the MSRP at 850 us so a 50 premium there and that means as it stands right now there are multiple 7900 XTS available for 800 us while the cheapest 4070 tire is 830 dollars but most of them do cost 850 or more so not a massive difference in price there but the Radeon GPU is now cheaper despite the fact that it should cost 100 us more at least when both cards are priced at their msrps now I think it's fair to say that my initial Radeon RX 7900 XT review wasn't all that favorable and in short I found this product to offer exceptionally poor value at 900 us without question spend a hundred dollars more on the 7900 XTX which was also kind of crappy in terms of value at least in my opinion the GeForce company petition on the other hand was really not that much better the RTX 4080s set a rather low bar at 1200 us and you'd think AMD would have jumped at the chance to make Nvidia look foolish but apparently not Nvidia then replied to the weak 7900 XT with an almost equally weak offering the RTX 4070 Chi at 800 in fact it was really just as underwhelming in my opinion but the lower price tag placed in a slightly better position in terms of value however three months later it would seem that the tables have turned and now it's the Radeon GPU that's the more affordable option so it's going to be interesting to see how they stack up with the latest drivers across a massive range of games so let's go look into that for testing the CPU used is the ryzen 9 7950x3d but with the second CCD disabled and this has been done to ensure maximum performance in all games so essentially we're testing with the yet to be released 7800 X 3D this CPU has been tested on the gigabyte x670e RS Master using 32 gigabytes of ddr5 6000cl30 memory and the latest AMD and Nvidia display drivers were used as usual we'll go over the data for around a dozen of the titles tested before jumping into the big breakdown graphs with all 50 games so if a game that you're interested in wasn't covered here such as Apex Legends just be aware that game was tested and it is in the big breakdown graphs which as I said we'll get to towards the end of the video and of course the resolutions of Interest here are 1440p and 4K so let's get into it starting with fortnite using the Epic quality preset in the DirectX 11 mode we find that the 4072 is the faster GPU they frame time consistency isn't nearly as good as what we see with the 7900 XT with a much larger variance between the average frame rate and one percent lows as a result the 4072i was eight percent faster on average at 1440p but 17 slower when comparing one percent lows the performance trends at 4K do change though and now the 4072i is the clear winner delivering nine percent greater average frame rates with 13 greater one percent lows Now using the exact same visual quality settings but moving to the DirectX 12 API we do see a massive decline in frame rates especially at 1440p where the 4072r is a little over 30 slower now some of you have commented in the past that the game does run better for using DirectX 12 opposed to DirectX 11 but that has certainly not been the case for me with the Epic quality settings and a rather powerful CPU it is possible those of you with weakest CPUs will find DirectX 12 to be faster but typically I'd expect you'll find more frames when using DirectX 11. now with Hardware Ray tracing enabled and I want to be very clear on that Hardware Ray tracing is the option that was enabled for this testing along with Lumen and nanite we find that performance is very similar using either GPU and this means in one of the more impressive examples of Ray tracing that we have to date at least in my opinion rda3 is able to match Ada Lovelace therefore it's going to be very interesting to see how these two architectures compare in future unreal 5 engine titles using Ray tracing now moving on to Call of Duty Modern Warfare 2 I have dropped the basic quality preset testing from this comparison as some people felt testing this title twice with two very different quality presets was only done to give AMD an advantage and this was despite the fact that the second result accounted for less than a one percent change for the overall result given that there were 62 data points I guess being a fanboy doesn't make you particularly good at math anyway scaling was the same so we might as well just focus on the ultra data anyway scaling between the RTX 4080 and 7900 XTX and that previous test was the same so you might as well just focus on the ultra data here the 7900 XT blasted the 4072i by a 31 margin at 1440p pumping at 174 FPS on average and then at 4K the Radeon GPU was still faster but this time by a slightly smaller 23 margin going from 80 to fps to 101 FPS and you will still certainly notice that difference next up we have The Witcher 3 wild Hunt using the ultra quality preset but with the new Ray tracing effects disabled here both gpus pumped out just shy of 200 FPS 1440p and then over 100 FPS at 4K though here the 1700xt was 11 faster so good performance overall from both products and they did deliver a highly enjoyable gaming experience now with Ray tracing enabled I've also gone ahead and enabled upscaling using fsr2 quality mode as this allows for an Apples to Apples comparison and even with the help of upscaling neither GPU could manage even 60 FPS at 1440p meaning performance was around four times greater with the rtfx disabled that's a shocking difference and for me personally it means I couldn't justify enabling RT in this title especially given we're also using upscaling here still if you want to use Ray tracing the RTX 4072i is the better choice for this title delivering 20 more performance at 1440p as for 4K though I think we can ignore those results unless you're happy with a sad console like 30 FPS on your premium and very expensive GPU moving on to f122 and this is a title that we tested exclusively with Ray tracing enabled as that is the default configuration we're using the ultra high quality preset for those of you after more frames your first stop here should be to disable rtfx as it does massively boost frame rates for only a very minor downgrade in visuals in any case frame rates here were decent with over 100 FPS at 1440p and 60fps 4K and both gpus enabled the same level of performance Warhammer 40 000 dark tide was also benchmarked with Ray tracing enabled and this provided the 4072i with a 14 performance Advantage at 1440p but did seem to break performance at 4K seeing we're looking at the one percent lows as we're exceeding the vram buffer here still the 700xt did only manage 31 FPS so it's not exactly a win in my book a plague Tower Requiem was tested using the ultra quality preset and here the 1700 XT was much faster delivering 22 more frames at 1440 pound 25 more at 4K so a comfortable win here for AMD in this relatively new title the Callisto protocol is another new title and this one enables fsr2 quality by default when using the ultra quality preset so we didn't change that and as a result both gpus were good for over 170 FPS at 1440p and over 100 FPS at 4K the 1700 XT was a smidgen faster but overall performance was much the same atomic heart is the most recently released game that we're testing with and it's yet another game built upon the Unreal Engine for game engine at 1440p both gpus delivered 103 FPS using the maximum in-game visual quality settings and then just over 60 FPS at 4K where the 7900 XT was 10 faster now cyberpunk 2077 has been tested using the high quality preset with upscaling manually disabled though do also have some RT results which we'll look at in a moment at 1440p the 1700xt was 18 faster than the 4070 TI rendering 117 FPS then we see that the margin does blow out to 34 at 4K as the GeForce GPU was good for just 44 FPS opposed to 59 FPS for the 7900 XT now with Ray tracing enabled along with fsr2 quality for some upscaling we find dramatically different results at 1440p frame rates for the 7900 XT dropped by a staggering 48 and again that's with upscaling enabled for the RTA result the 4780 on the other hand that saw just a 14 declining performance as a result was capable of delivering well over 60 FPS at 1440p then the 4K results they're even more interesting here the 7 2900 XT saw a 44 decrease in frame rate whereas the 4072i delivered the same level of performance and this is possible thanks to upscaling so whereas the 1700xt was 34 faster at 4K with rt disabled it's now 25 slower with the rtfx enabled last up we have everyone's favorite video game Hogwarts Legacy the 1700 XT rips the 4072 iron new one in this title delivering 28 more frames at 1440p with a staggering 56 increase for the one percent lows the margins do close up at 4K though and now the 7900 XT is just 16 faster which admittedly is still quite a significant margin but it's also nothing like what we saw at 1440p now enabling Ray tracing does change the picture quite a bit not so much in-game depending on where you are but it certainly changes how our graphs look the 1700 XT no longer dominates the 4072i and in fact at 1440p is now nine percent slower with just 59 FPS on average that's a massive 54 reduction in frame rate for the 7900 XT when enabling Ray tracing and a 36 decrease for the 4072i the 4072i does run into vrm a related performance issues at 4K and while the 700 XT is able to avoid such issues with just 27 FPS on average it was hardly a desirable result Okay so we've taken a detailed look at just a few of the 50 individual games tested now it is time to compare the GeForce RTX 4070 TI and Radeon RX 1700 XT across all of the games I've spent about the past week benchmarking and of course we all start with the 1440p data well that's rather unexciting isn't it after a massive round of benchmarking we've found that the 1700 XT and 4072 are neck and neck at 1440p though that probably shouldn't come as a surprise really as the 7900 XT was just four percent faster on average in our day one review where we largely separated the rasterization and Ray tracing results with many more rt-enabled results the margins don't really change all that much so it's fair to say the 1700xt and 4072 are overall are very similar of course we still see performance swings of around 30 neither Direction Modern Warfare 2 Hogwarts Legacy with rt disabled and a plague tail Requiem are all great titles for the 7900 XT whereas cyberpunk 2077 with rt enabled Metro Exodus enhanced Edition which of course uses RT Dying Light 2 with rt enabled and The Witcher 3 also with rt enabled are all week titles for the 7900 XT so while it's quite clear that the 4072i typically does much better with arctic enabled that's not always the case and a good example of this is fortnite where performance was much the same therefore moving forward Ray tracing performance when these two products could be a lot more competitive especially for games using the Unreal Engine 5. now in our day one review the 7900 XT was eight percent faster than the 4072 at 4K and here with many more games and a lot more RT results it's just three percent faster so about what you'd expect based on the 1440p results so that's a technical win for the Radeon GPU but really anything within a five percent margin can be considered a draw so there you have it the Raider RX 1700xt versus GeForce RTX 470ti in a massive sample of games overall they are quite similar in terms of performance the 7900 XT generally lies better with Ray tracing disabled Hogwarts Legacy The Witcher 3 Dying Light 2 and cyberpunk 2077 were all good examples of that but there are signs that Ray tracing performance in future titles using the Unreal Engine 5 could be a lot more competitive as we saw in fortnite still if you're very keen on Ray tracing performance then the RTX 4072i would be the more attractive product though based on several polls we've run over the past few years it really does seem as though there are very few of you willing to stomach the performance hit for what RT currently has to offer but in any case in the vast majority of Ray tracing Naval titles we have today the RTX 4072i puts on a better show there's also the little matter of upscaling dlss is still King in that Arena and while it's not always Head and Shoulders better than FSR it is an advantage of the GeForce gpus on that note I'm sure there'll be some Nvidia fans upset that we didn't test with dlss enabled but there's a very good reason for that if we're going to use dlss we have to also use upscaling for the Radeon gpus and then you run into a bit of an apples to oranges comparison both in terms of image quality and performance so it's just easier and certainly a lot more accurate to test both with an upscaling technology that they both support ideally the same technology like fsr2 and I'm sure that makes sense to most of you there aren't too many other ways you can really compare these products I guess power consumption is one but really power consumption is very very similar between these two gpus generally the Radeon GPU does use a little bit more power but it's also generally a little bit faster in those examples so I'd say performance periwatt is much the same and certainly not a big enough difference there to matter probably the most significant difference is the fact that the 7900 XT packs 20 Gigabytes of vram whereas the 4072i has just 12 gigabytes now today I'd consider 12 gigabytes as more of a minimum memory spec and it's certainly a capacity that's more at home on a more mid-range or possibly even an entry-level graphics card really at eight hundred dollars you'd expect 16 gigabytes to be the minimum so the 7900 XT and it's almost 70 increase in vram is far better equipped for future titles of course 12 gigabytes is still enough for the vast majority of games available today basically all of them really especially under playable conditions but we've seen how poorly high-end eight gigabyte models such as the RTX 3070 TI have aged and I don't expect the 4072i will be all that much much better in that regard as for display drivers I know people like to rag on AMD here and maybe rightfully so in some instances but the truth is as of late Nvidia has had just as many driver-related issues and the GeForce experience is kind of garbage not least of all because you need an account to log in the interface is now very old it's in desperate need of an overhaul and features for stuff like Shadow play are severely lacking when compared to Radeon relive at the end of the day though the biggest issue for the GeForce RTX 4072i right now is the fact that it actually costs more it might only be around 50 more which is a mere six percent premium so I wouldn't say the price is a deal breaker by any means but with slightly Superior upscaling support thanks dlss and more mature Ray tracing the 4070 TI does very little to justify that premium frankly at around 800 to 850 us I'm none too impress with either of these products and on that note let's quickly revisit the cost per Frame data from my day one review but with the updated retail pricing for the 1700 XT and 4070 TI for the retail price to be valid at least two different models have to be available for that price so that sees the 4072 at 850 and the 7900 XT at 800 I'm also using our day one data where the 1700 XT was eight percent faster at 4K due to games like cyberpunk tested without RT enabled so take this as more of a rough guide It's really more to see how these current gen products stack up against previous generation models for those of you thinking of upgrading what this data really highlights for me is how much AMD screwed up with the ridiculous 900 asking price of the 7900 XT had they started at 800 our review would have looked very different and although I still believe this should be a 700 product 800 is a lot easier to stomach when compared to 900 and not only that but at 800 the 7900 XT is better value than both the 6800 and 60 800 XT at their MSRP so that is good to see the 4072i was meant to cost 800 but in reality it's more like 850 which places it roughly on par with the 30 80 10 gigabyte at its MSRP so not exactly moving the needle forward there basically when compared to previous generation products the 7900 XT is mildly attractive at 800 while the 40 70 show is a bit of a nothing burger at 850 at the end of the day though they are likely to occupy roughly the same price point over the next year or so and with similar features and performance I don't think you can go too wrong with either option and there's certainly no other Alternatives at this performance tier that said can't believe I'm gonna say this but with 100 now knocked off the price I think I'd go with the 7900 XT as I do expect that extra vram capacity to come in handy down the track and with no other real drawbacks it seems as though it is the better option to me especially given that right now it is slightly cheaper having said all of that I really wouldn't passionately argue for or against they're both very solid options in today's market so just go over the data and pick the one that makes the most sense for your use case and that is going to do it for this video If you enjoyed it please do give it a like there's a tremendous amount of work to Benchmark these two graphics cards in so many games and also we have float plane and patreon links for those are in the video description signing up to either one of those will give you access to our exclusive Discord server members only a monthly live stream for members behind the scenes content and Q and A's so some pretty cool stuff there check it out if you're interested but if not that is perfectly fine oh and you can also grab all 50 graphs for all the individual games actually there's more than 50 graphs there's about 60 something graphs but you can grab all of those for float plan and patreon members otherwise yeah you've got the data for the totals in this video anyway but if you'd like to have a closer look at any of those games we do make all that data available for our members and I would like to thank you for watching this video I'm your host Dave see you next 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Published: Sat Mar 11 2023

Reddit Comments

[u/_BigG]

I mean, if the cost per frame doesn't go down significantly with each generation we have a clear problem

[u/OwlProper1145]

Anyone got any insight on why AMD is not taking much of a performance hit from hardware lumen? Most other benchmarks show AMD taking a notable performance hit from the hardware mode while Nvidia cards more or less stayed the same.

[u/Echelonaz]

There are some serious methodological issues. Why would you test Nvidia using FSR? Why would you not use DLSS in games that supported it just because AMD lacks the feature?

Cards should be tested how the consumer would actually use them. Obviously that is a judgment call, but necessary if you want to provide consumers the best info. Nobody ever uses FSR when DLSS is an option. DLSS balanced is closest in quality to FSR UQ. Most users will use DLSS quality whenever it is an option, and nobody doesn't use DLSS because FSR isn't available for a card they don't own.

Recalibrating cost-per-frame against regional pricing instead of MSRP is also weird. Weirder is that you can buy $800 4070tis, there are multiple models. Several more in the $820 range.

[u/Firefox72]

TLDR: Basically identical performance at both 4K and 1440p. 4070ti clearly better in raytracing but has only 12GB of VRAM vs 20GB on the 7900XT which might become an issue down the line.

My personal opinion is that releasing a card at $800 with 12GB of VRAM is unnaceptable these days. Many games at 1440p and 4K are already starting to thread that 12GB line especialy with RT and some even go over it.

[u/MonoShadow]

I disagree on the point where he says he doesn't need to test with DLSS2 because Radeon doesn't support it, so the solution is to test with FSR2. The solution is to test native.

Nvidia forces AMD to lower the price by 100 bucks. I guess it's Jebaited 2: Jebait never dies.

[u/Crystal-Ammunition]

Frankly, NVIDIA's software advantages makes this a ridiculously easy decision.

[u/invisiblesock]

both of these cards should have been priced 200-300 usd less. they really are midrange cards with absurd prices.

the rx7900xt still sucks though. nvidia offers a lot more features and better software than amd. if you're going to buy one of these cards, amd gives you zero reasons why you should consider their offering.

[u/der_triad]

We've got some progress by Steve since it seems he didn't 'skew' the results this time. Which is scary since if he followed the same format as he did for the RTX 4080 vs 7900 XTX, the RTX 4070 Ti would've gotten beaten pretty handedly. Goes to show how easily you can frame the comparison however you'd like while still using valid data. Considering how many people use this channel for purchasing decisions, it’s annoying that whether or not he feels benevolent can make such an big impact.

For reference, below are the charts for these 2 reviews.

7900 XTX vs RTX 4080
7900 XT vs RTX 4070 Ti

Notable changes, MWII isn't counted twice and there is an inclusion of Cyberpunk. I'm sure there are other changes, but those are the ones that really tip the scales. Had he followed the same format as before, RTX 4070 Ti kind of gets blown out in this comparison.

A few notes on his editorial comments:

• Mentions Fortnite RT at 3 separate points in the video. Apparently he really loves RT in this title. In his opinion, it's currently the best looking RT implementation.
• Makes sure to comment on the results of his polls that shows that his audience also agrees that RT is bad.
• DLSS Frame Generation isn't mentioned once in this video. If it is, I must have missed it. It's not like this is a feature that could interest people anyway.
• Power consumption doesn't matter.
• Nvidia drivers are just as bad.

[u/robodestructor444]

12gb is too low for that card