Ollie Ollerton - Full Interview with the Mulligan Brothers

a large pot missing but half my arm was just hanging out i didn't do something i was going to die and at that moment unfortunately for him his ak-47 was coming onto my head you know what when it comes to humans we don't even know our true power if you you need to define your purpose what is your purpose in life 350 started mine i was one of five that passed and we looked down it rolled and as it stopped it was a head inside a helmet and it was a bit of a shock really hell of a shock actually so uh the the first thing we'll start early early days but just to start off with for people who don't know just introduce yourself and what you do yeah my name's ollie olaton i'm better known for the ds on sas judez wins on channel 4 i'm a former uk special forces soldier okay so early days you grew up local to here actually yeah what was that childhood like the early days you know what i can't i can't because of the traumatic experience i had at 10 years old i can't remember much at all pre-10 year 10 years old um but for me i was just like any average kid you know we went to a quite quite a posh school um up until the age of about seven or eight um but then i had um a crazy experience um in burton entrance and not too far from here and um it was a boiling hot day and we had a knock on the door and it was my brother's best mate james and he wanted to know if we want to go swimming and it was beautiful day so my mom was pleased to get us out the house and off we went and we're just crossing the river trent across the bridge and we saw the big top setting up in in burn on trent so we're so excited our walk turned into a run and before we knew it we were at the at the circus at the big top where we saw this first guy and we're like hey mate can we have a look around and he was like yeah sure it was 1980 there was no health and safety and we walked into the big ten and i seemed to get separated from my brother and james and there was a few animals around an elephant a small little monkey and i was drawn to this area of the other side of the tent where i could see some light sort of partially coming through the door and i walked over to it and as soon as i opened the door the sunlight hit me in the face blurred my vision and then all of a sudden when my vision cleared i saw something that was amazing something that just had me in a semi state of shock and that was a baby chimp it was sat on the floor probably about 10 15 meters in front of me now for me i was brought up on tarzan you know and that was cheetah not only was it cheetah that was to me like a little piece of hollywood i was brought up with cats and dogs but this was like a chimp of baby chim and burn on trent and staffordshire so uh i moved my way it moved over to it cautiously looked down at this beautiful little chimp and it stared at me with these big brown eyes and it was it was a weird moment it was like it was surreal you know we connected you're probably thinking yeah you did with the big ears but anyway so we connected and uh it was it was amazing moment you know it's so peaceful the sky was just perfect it was beautiful nothing else mattered apart from that moment and it seemed like it was going on forever but it only lasted a few seconds and all of a sudden that serenity the serenity of that moment was broken like a fighter jet cutting through the sky when i heard the raw of something and i'll i'll never forget that raw i can still hear that raw to this day and as i looked into the background there were some shadows there was some like a trailer part there but it was all enclosed the whole area was enclosed and something was moving and it roared again and all of a sudden that those shadows turned into what was a very big chimp especially compared to the baby chimp especially compared to the size of me as a 10 year old boy and it was making its way towards me at mach 10 doing the whole sideways chimp thing and it was roaring you know it was absolutely ferocious it wanted to do one thing and that was to kill me and protect its baby and at that point i was like a deer in the headlights but i thought [ __ ] i've got to move and as i thought that this chimp pounced straight through the air it must have been about 24 straight over the baby chimp and all of a sudden the blue sky turned to black and this thing landed on top of me pinned me to the floor and started going about me trying to kill just basically trying to kill me and it was like a drummer in a rock band it was smashing down on its fists onto my chest the first one winded me knocked everything out of me and then it started trying to kill me and [Music] at one point i looked up and i i knew that if i didn't do something i was gonna die and then i saw blood there was blood flying around it wasn't chimp's blood it was mine and it was in that moment it wasn't something i thought about but i've reacted fight or flight and i reacted and i managed to disloc dislodge the chimp from my chest it gave me probably about a couple of inches just to pull my knee up to my chest smashed it in the chest with my foot full force and it knocked it a couple of feet away that gave me just enough space just to scurry away and then this chimp got up and it came on its final attack to kill me and uh just as it got to me the chain caught its neck and if it wasn't for that chain i won't be here today and now i'm stood there again like to say 10 year old very young and i'm dripping with blood marks all over me where it you know chewed me and then the whole place erupted this woman came over and she said look we're gonna have to get you looked at and um at that point she put a hand around my wrist and ash and then she turned it over and she was in a state of shock and she turned it over as you can see that's a large pot missing but half my arm was just hanging out you know that was the worst damage and there was blood everywhere and she she pretty much fainted um ambulance came went to the hospital that's that's quite a long story it went on and on from there and uh caught gangrene in my arm nearly lost my arm some a couple of weeks after that but yeah that was that was a shocking experience for me but for me that was my first break point and that typifies the meaning behind break point it was that moment where i had to step into the short-term discomfort for any long-term gain the long-term gain was living that day the short-term discomfort was taking the fight to the chimp and that for me although that was my first break point that's how people live their lives they're not prepared to step into that discomfort knowing that on the other side of that is the long-term gain the way we're wired and this is the way people operate basically is everyone's taking short-term comfort whether that's drugs drink relationships job choices all the choices they make they make knowing there's a level of comfort there and if you want to achieve anything in life if you want to achieve success at work success in any aspect of your life you need to take short-term discomfort for long-term gain and that really like i say was the was my first break point and the reason why my book is called breakpoint the reason why my company is called breakpoint so a great deal of thanks to the chimp um looking at like i know you relate this to a day-to-day life and that's fantastic but for you it was life or death situation how does somebody so you've learned early on that you can you can make this decision for long-term gain for short-term discomfort how can somebody who's not facing such a situation make that decision in the same sort of way you did well the last thing i want people doing is finding the local circus and looking for a chin it doesn't need to be about the big stuff you know it doesn't need to be about these life threatening situations we're faced with this day in day out you know everything we do in life is about taking the short-term discomfort you know and that whether that's sending an extra email staying a bit longer at work whatever it is it's like also let's relate it to physical exercise or something if you want to achieve a goal let's say you want to run the london marathon every next year you know that every week you're going to have to do some training to achieve that and that is about yeah you're not going to want to by the time it comes to point your trainers on going out the door your mind is going to tell you and enforce every reason why you shouldn't do it and it's devious it'll tell you to go and check your computer do this do that and that's when we have to switch this off you have to switch the mind off and follow the process and that's something that i learned from an early age but something that was further enforced in the military you have to follow process follow your heart switch off this which is the program and through that you will achieve your aim so really if you can take care of the small stuff you know about doing everything whether that's washing the dishes before you go to bed at night so you don't come down to a whole mess in the kitchen whatever it is making your bed in the morning simple things if you can do the simple things the big stuff takes care of itself um we talked when you when you said early days you said that you went to a not a posh school um but it wasn't smooth sailing so what what's that those those early days when you're going into schoolness to flower what were those days if you could explain to the viewers well before the gym after the children yeah after the the chimp changed my life it changed the you know that was a pivotal um turning point of my life came from a very good family my brother and sister were um extremely different and i i i i say i i owe it because i have no regrets about it but it's because of the chimp experience because that experience changed me childhood trauma is one of the worst kind of traumas that you can get because it sinks it it's absorbed so much easier than later trauma and and obviously affects your life but from that point from that moment on my life went haywire you know i was chasing danger everywhere i could i had no i was void of consequence void of emotion and i just wanted to be on the edge of death i know that sounds extreme but that was really the making for me wanting to join the military and being the best of the best but really for me you know i was at school i was i lost interest in school i didn't see the point of it and to this day i don't really see the point of it i've not changed my mind on that one there's a lot of stuff i learned at school that just is irrelevant um but for me i lost interest at school and then i wanted to you know it just wasn't high enough adrenaline for me you know i was good at my sports and stuff like that but then i started you know pushing the boundaries a bit too far and that's probably one thing i do regret because of course it caused my family a lot of um a lot of pain and discomfort with that um but yeah we were i was doing stupid stuff like stealing stuff and shot and all that kind of stuff but just not because i needed it just because it it made me feel alive you know um in so you decided quite early on that you wanted to go go down the military route yeah i know that you said in your book that he was kind of ridiculed for it like a lot of people said you're not going to do it waste of time you never do it how did you deal with that doubt and what was that like yeah for me i mean i made that decision really early and you know i've got a 19 year old boy who still doesn't know what he wants to do and at 14 i didn't see it at the time but you know it was it was quite profound to be um making a decision about what i wanted to do with the rest of my life and that was to join the royal marines but for me you know people can take doubt one or two ways you know some people get delivered down from someone else and that absolutely makes them crumble cripples them stops they stop chasing their dreams they start believing the doubt expressed from someone else for me it works differently and as soon as i hear that it gives me more energy to prove them wrong and i've always been like that you know even to this day i actually when i'm thinking about doing a project business project or whatever i actually do want someone to say to me you can't do that because it's like a red flag to a ball but it's just how you frame it it's the same with so many things you know some people if you allow that self-doubt to to ruin your dreams you're never going to get anywhere in life but the thing is as long as you're passionate enough as long as you're coming from the heart and not from the head and your motivation is pure passion for what you believe in no one can stop you what was it about the marines marines were the best of the best you know i wanted to be in the hardest fighting unit you know i didn't want to learn a trade i wanted to be at war every day you know and that's not that's something i've changed my view on massively just recently or not recently but you know but at that time as a boy i didn't want to i wanted to learn to be a soldier i wanted to learn how to shoot weapons i wanted to learn how to shoot the enemy i wanted to be in conflict every day and for me the marines were the people that were going to get me there you know i saw um you know around about the falklands wartime 1982 that's when i was sort of growing up and that was a big influence on my life you know i did see if you remember 1980 as well there was the um embassy where the sas went into the embassy in london and it was phenomenal but the thing is although i knew the special forces were there i just thought special forces they're like they're carved in marble on a different planet and bought you know they're not they're cut from a different cloth i just thought i could never achieve that but what i thought i could although i doubted myself i could achieve the royal marines but i knew it was the toughest and that's what i wanted i heard for me it was about the training i went i looked at the training and whose training was the longest and it was the royal marines so that's in my head i thought well they must be the best um first day you go down to marines or i don't know if it was the first day you go down to marines and there was a woman who said something to you i think she sort of says what do you think you're gonna could you go through that for us yeah no that was interesting because after that you know one thing i'll say about my mom i mean i put her through hell and it was all you know i getting into trouble at school i ended up on remand you know at one point it was only a couple of weeks but i ended up on remand that was unstoppable i was just causing more and more trouble and um i thought i was going to i would thought i was definitely going to have a custodial sentence thank god i never um but after that point you know my mum her life was falling apart she um you know and although that i'll never forget this although that was happening her you know her marriage had fallen apart my dad had left and she was struggling financially but she still although she was going through her own stuff she knew i needed support she i needed help and once she knew that i wanted to join the royal marine she she absolutely did everything she could to help me on that journey probably to get rid of me but but um it was amazing and um you know she used to take me to my cross-country events and my athletics events but one thing she did is she used to take me to derby and she used to uh take me to the careers office it was seemed like it was every week but yeah i was i was in there and it was um it was interesting because i was so passionate about being a royal marine commando and i got in there and there was a a navy officer female and she sat me down one day and she said so let's say you get in the marines then what do you want to do once you're in and i've got all the brochures and everything i can remember opening the book and there was a picture of this special forces soldier well there's a picture of a of a mini sub and there was a picture of a combat swimmer special forces combat swimmer going to the sub and i went i want to do that and she looked at me and she just laughed and she went everyone wants to do that and then she closed the book so that for me was like although i still thought you know i could never you know it was still a dream still that was that was although i didn't possibly you know i thought the journey was too hard to get to that you know it was still something that held a special place in my head but that was amplified by her saying that i couldn't do it you know that seed was then sewn that's he was saying what does it take to be a marine it takes and i say this with tongue-in-cheek but it takes an extreme amount of discipline it takes a lot of motivation it takes a lot of courage and it takes above all belief yeah so then you get into the marines did you serve last year's in the marines do you have to serve to do the special forces yeah i went i mean i joined the royal marines and um i got through 32 weeks of training this is back in 1989 i joined up 32 weeks of training actually passed out finally and the proudest moment for me was you know seeing my mum there and her watching me you know pass pass out and and get my green beret as a roaring commando you know where you know seeing how much trouble i got into as a kid many people leaving the police for like he'll be back you know they've kind of written me off already but i wasn't and it must have been it was such a proud moment for my mum that day seeing me pass out as a rumor in commando um from there i went straight over to northern ireland and that was that that was a big that was probably my biggest shocker to be quite honest because when i joined there was a brochure and in my brochure there was young men in uniform look pristine and i just thought god all the chicks will love that and then i saw another guy who was like windsurfing on a little holiday in the caribbean or somewhere and nothing prepared me for ireland you know i mean ireland although they called it a conflict it was a war it's it's a war people are trying to work and i consider that's quite black and white if someone's trying to kill you and you're going to do what you can defend yourself and kill them if if necessary then that to me is a war i don't care what you call it but getting out there you know northern ireland um the first the first couple of nights in um we were on a quick reaction force so anything that happened in the region we would jump on a helicopter go straight out there deal with it and um i was when i look back now i was 19 years old i mean jesus i can't imagine my son at war you know it's just like i can't believe i was that young and um that first night we got in something that happened our bomber golf we were straight onto the helicopter straight out and um the ira the ira had uh driven a a truck bomb or a car bomb into a checkpoint totally obliterated the whole czech point it was a 500 pound bomb and the off the off-coming guard which was the cold tree and guards that it killed about five or six but i can always remember we got down on the ground and one of our sergeants got out sergeant claire and he was like um he'd been to the falklands he was pretty you know hardened and those kind of things we were still in a state of shock there was just mayhem everywhere and um i remember he gathered everyone in and he booted something on the floor he said we need to see if we can find any more of these and we looked down and it rolled and as it stopped it was a head inside a helmet and that for me was like that wasn't windsurfing on a beach you know i mean that was like my first introduction as a young boy to war that's where i crossed that bridge and it was a bit of a shock really hell of a shock actually um and then we had a pretty after that you know we had a pretty colorful he tried 19 times to kill us um didn't succeed but um it was it was an interesting tour but one thing i did learn on that which kind of changed my view and i think this was really when i look at it it was the catalyst for me wanted to join the special forces i can remember looking across the ground one day and i don't know why i had it it was just like an epiphany it was just like something that came into my head and they used to give us all these sort of tasks all these missions every day to go and do i sat there one day and i went there are no tasks there are no missions we're bait and that's to this day i still believe that you know we're bait we're being put on the ground because they want the ira to attack us and then from that that's where they build their intelligence you know the activity creates the intelligence picture so for me it was like i just thought i'm just cannon fodder it wasn't sharp enough it wasn't the shopping it wasn't the shop shock it wasn't you know i needed to be on the sharper end of this end of the spear whatever you want to call it and uh so i kind of lost a little bit of interest from that point on you know it kind of devalued me i was just i felt like cannon fodder so when we got back from that we you know we went on two weeks leave or not two weeks it was like six weeks leave but it got caught cut short and then we got called over to iraq uh operation desert storm and again that was although we had there was a few things we went to the village we went into some of the villages in the mountains where the kurds were and some there were some atrocities done you know some things that i i can't even describe to this day um done to the to the kurds up in the mountains so again that was a shock uh but you know it's part of the uh part of the education you know it's part of my indoctrination into that that world but i came back from there you know and although it had height you know certain things happened and it was great it wasn't enough it just wasn't enough and it got to that point where i started to lose belief in myself and the whole just the just the thought that i could be in the special forces i thought nah that's that's not i'm not i prepared to to embark on that journey i just didn't believe in myself enough and i put my noticing to leave at that point you know i'd had enough and i think i had six months left to do even less than that and i ended up bumping into my former officer from who i served with in iraq and uh he was at my brother's passout my brother passed out as a helicopter pilot he was a brainy one and um i saw him there and he said what are you up to i said well i'm leaving he said no you're kidding me and i said yeah i said it's not for me and he says mate he says you've got something i don't know what it is but you've got something i believe you've got what it takes for the special forces if you leave now you'll regret that for the rest of your life and those words from someone that i respected changed me changed me straight away you know inspired me someone gave me a bit of confidence when i was lacking it and that was phenomenal and that gave me just that little inch of confidence to change my whole mindset and think and just the thought of you will regret that for the rest of your life they're powerful words really powerful words and if it wasn't for him saying that i wouldn't be sat here today and i wouldn't i'd be leading a very different life whatever that would be um but that was the one turning point i then got back i took out my notice to leave and within a month or two months i was down at hereford starting special forces selection one of the youngest lads there crazy um i want to touch on the special forces but just just uh briefly those first two tours you you had already started work on your mindset obviously you're at war like you're starting to work on your mindset um for me when like as a normal civilian i'm thinking if i was in that situation i don't i'd be thinking about being at home all the time and i'm and you've spoke about this like you trained your mind to never go to that place what other things would you do using um your mind and and how was you using your mind when you was at war to sort of get through those times to be honest when i look back now i realized that i think i have always been that way orientated and i don't know why is but still to this day i mean it wasn't something i was conscious of it's all about mindset it was just something that came naturally to me but really i mean the thing with war um the one thing i managed to always and i've always done this for whatever reason is i don't i don't get lost in the journey it's always always has been the vision of who and where i want to be so whether that came to missions you know in iraq or or in northern ireland it was about where i wanted to be it was the visualization of what we wanted to create the end result and that for me was always the anchor that pulled me forward so regardless of what happened in here i've always had a mission a goal we were mission driven anyway and we're always given a mission on the ground it was that mission that goal that i would always focus on because if you don't have a focus on a goal or a mission and this is generally in life you will find that you end up becoming a victim of your circumstances you get lost in the journey something happens something major happens and you become a victim of your circumstances because you've got nothing bigger pulling you through so really for me it's always been about the fact that i visualize where i want to be when times are tough when times are hard when things are going really wrong i visualize i've got a vision of where i want to be and it's that one thing that pulls me through and i don't get bogged down in the situation do you think i mean it's i think that's unbelievable but again it's that thing of like being in the circumstances you was in to have that that mindset is crazy do you think that other people can have that or is it is it something you've got to train or something you've got to learn you've got to train everyone's got it but the thing is you right you go to any kind of event you go to a corporate speaking event or whatever you'll say right someone will say a trainer will say hands up here who's got a goal and you'll get some that put the hand up somebody like half do because they don't want to look stupid and then you get the rest that just don't so they don't what people don't understand right that our subconscious is the ghost driving goal getting machine and it will not stop it it will not stop until it gets exactly what your dominant thoughts focus on it doesn't matter who you are we are all goal driven all of us but the thing is some people have a chosen goal and some people just leave it to the massive confusion that's going on inside which delivers them to something that they don't usually want we are by default negatively wide and the reason for that it comes down to our evolution our evolution as far as evolution is concerned it wants us to keep doing what we did yesterday and the day before because as far as it's concerned that's what's kept it's kept us alive until today it doesn't give a [ __ ] if you're happy or sad whether it's a good situation or not it wants to keep us in a repeat habit loop okay so if you're thinking negative thoughts and we do because we're wired that way if you're thinking negative thoughts you will keep getting more of that you will keep getting more and more of that and you have to change your mindset around that and the only way you can do that is by having clearly defined goals because if you don't have a clearly defined goal what are we given to you and that will be based on what your thoughts are okay so then we go to from the marines and you've you've gone for the special forces we special forces selection can you explain what that is because it's kind of crazy to hear yeah special forces selection is basically a process by which it's a process of elimination um there's a very low low percentage of people that pass i think it's within the sort of three percent um kind of rate 350 started mine i was one of five that passed but it's a six month process where basically yeah you have to be physically strong some people say is it physical or mental for me mind and body go together one doesn't come without the other you know i mean you can't just be physically strongly expect to do anything you've got to have the mental drive to be able to get you to it so really even from the outset you have to have a high level of physical ability but you also have to have a mindset that allows you to endure long periods of discomfort without taking the easy way out and that all comes down to the mind so really selection is initially it's a thrash up and down the mountains in wales uh once you pass that you lose about seven um thirty percent or no even more than that about fifty percent of the course just on that phase it's a couple of weeks and then once you've passed that i mean that is the heavy packs miles and miles and miles each day doing the you know increasing the mileage i think by the end of it by the end of two weeks you've covered 100k with um massive amounts of kit on your back weapon you then once you pass that you then go out to the jungles so you learn how to live in the jungle for six weeks when you've got no um no luxuries probably a toothbrush is your best luxury and um once you pass that phase you kind of once you've got through the jungle they can they pretty much start looking at the people that have got that far thinking now we've got a credible bunch to play with once you've done that you do all your room entry skills um you do all your helicopter training or your um building assault skills all kinds of different planes trains automobiles all that kind of stuff and then the final thing you do your demolitions you do your communications final session or final phase is an escape innovation across the welsh mountains and that is a realistic scenario to recreate what it'd be like if you were being chased down by the enemy behind enemy lines um which is then culminates with you being captured and then going through resistance to interrogation questioning for 36 hours which is extremely horrendous so it's a six month process and um it weans out 98 97 thereabouts so you do you do all this the first time around and right at the end it was it right at the end yeah so the last thing two days i had left two days i had left and there's certain rules on the sas uh the final phase no civilian contact no um no civilian contact no buildings no vehicles now they're the rules but you know as a special forces soldier you don't follow the rules and that's realistic you know i mean the reason special forces um achieve such a high degree of their missions is because they just do whatever they need to do to get the job done they don't follow rules um so you know when it comes to selection you know there are rules there but you you break the rules to get the job done and unfortunately for us we managed we got a vehicle one night and uh we were almost at the end before we got snatched and going into the bag which means the 36 hours of uh question and um we've been on the run for days you you you sleep up in the day and you travel at night you've got nothing apart from world war one fatigues no socks in your boots it's freezing uh it's pretty horrendous and you've got to cover so many miles every night to get to the next agent next agent so we one day we got a lift off a farmer a nice welsh man called glenn even remember his name and uh he gave us a lift and he was extremely drunk and he dropped us off on this hill and it was in the middle of the night there was helicopters flying over with big searchlights in the local area there was dogs you could hear there's a whole hunt of force out there looking for us and he he stopped to let us out and he opened his door then we heard a thud and then there was nothing no one came to open the thing because we couldn't get the thing open so anyway one of the lads kicked the doors open they flew open and we just ran into the woods got away and we're like yes got away with it anyway the next day we got called into the next agent contact or rendezvous um it was quite strange because the training team that we've been with for the previous six months were there and they were like you know it's usually people you don't know and anyway they said right come with us and we had a field interrogation and it was like where you been and i was like oh you know just doing the escaping invasion stuff yeah and he says oh so you don't know glenn i was like no and anyway he named the dog the cat the wife everything and it was like what he said you better tell us what you've been up to otherwise you're never coming back and i ended up saying right yeah we've been in a farmhouse so anyway we got booted off the course what happened is glenn had fallen out the vehicle and uh he'd fallen over smashed his head and then he went to hospital and said and said to the police that had been beaten up by the sas so because of glenn we were like thrown off the course two days to the end so then uh so you you decide to do it again which is crazy she decided again and then that time wasn't smooth either so at what point did you um injure yourself the start you know the start which is through the record i mean the the decision as well to go back again that was a that was a massive decision it wasn't like you know because you come in such a long way you know it's not just six months it's it's the journey before that and the emotional stress and the emotional pressure to then go i'm going to do that all again it wasn't that kind of decision for me because i was going to go outside i was going to like be a civilian so i was do i go back or do i give it another go but i think one thing that happened is that those words echoed again if you don't do it you'll regret it for the rest of your life so that got me back there but anyway yeah the first week i was back in the first week on the brick of beacons i came down the slate track massive pack on my back i was trying to beat the guy in front i was smashing the times and as i came down i stepped on a slate that slid under my foot and my foot went 90 degrees and i could feel all the tendons snap down the side and i thought [ __ ] uh anyway i got down to the bottom medics took my boot off and as soon as they took the boot off my leg just went just came out i can remember seeing the training team on the training team walked past and he just went to the other guys he went finished i was like [ __ ] i'm not finished i'm not finished i can't allow this to to um end this journey and that night i got called in front of the training officer you know i i was still cracking on i was strapped it up and all that i was in great deal of pain that night i got called in front of the training office said uh i want to take you off the course and i went why he said because with that leg you're going to fail and he said if you fail a march that means because it already been once he said if you fail a march on a medical or sorry not on a medical if you fell in march because you've failed a time one of the times you can never come back again he said so i want to let you go on a medical withdrawal which means you can come back and do the next course and i stood there and i just said no i'm not doing it and it almost got heated you know it almost turned into an argument where he basically said you're an idiot he says you're not going to pass think for me at that point it was now or never you know i mean if i went back again i'd have lost interest and it was either now or never i'd prefer to take the risk of fail the time didn't actually go away again and come back again and for me i was like i'm going to do this and uh anyway he said right well it's in your own hands then finally let me out of the office and then the next day honestly it was like horrendous i had this strapped up i took loads of roofing i was like dropping briefing all the time just painkillers and i was in tears i was going across the mountains in wales and i was actually in tears getting the times but i managed to get the times and then over there you know over time it started started to strengthen up but you know initially again it was that short-term discomfort for long-term gain you know i wasn't prepared to take the short-term comfort but it was that one thing that got me through then and then i actually completed that course all the way through to the end which is one of seven what's um what's going through your head i mean if you've ever had a sprained ankle before never mind like tear intended stuff if you've had a sprained core walking on it's near impossible so what what are you what is going through your head what's the motto going for your head whilst that's every single step is painful what are you saying to yourself i've just got to try and switch off you've got to try and channel that energy the more you focus on the foot you know the more you think about the fall the more you're going to be consumed by the pain of it so it was i was using everything i could remember nina cherry seven seconds to seven seconds away nina cherry do you do you know yeah that was going through my head all the time seven seconds away because i knew how close i was to the line and for me it was like just repeating that song all the way through and just the whole vision of of getting across the finish line you know and every time i i spent time just focusing allowed my mind to go towards pain you get consumed by the pain you know it's trying to tell you to stop so it's all about disengaging that energy and pushing it somewhere else but it's a kind of that was a constant battle so you you fight through it and you i'll ruin the end of the story you pass which is uh unreal so you get that pass you're in you're in special forces so what what happens when you get like where'd you go when you when you um get selected yeah when i uh i mean for me going back to 1980 the embassy you know men in black absolutely into a building and taking it you know taking the building that was just for me was like i wanted that that's what i wanted that to me meant special forces so for me i the team i joined i mean when you when you pass sas election you then decide whether you go to scs or sbs i want to go to the sps the sbs is more focused around water and for me it had lots more toys so mini subs all that kind of stuff diving you know that that for me was a lot more i had a passion for that for whatever reason so i went to the sbs you then go off and do more training you have to do all your combat course you know learning demolitions underwater all that kind of stuff navigation underwater um focusing on different insertion techniques uh using um maritime craft and all that so there's a lot of training and then and then then finally once you pass that you then go to the sbs so then you join your team um and that's it you then selection doesn't train you to be a special forces soldier it gives you some very basic skills in the special forces world to be able to join a team it's when you join a team that you become a special forces soldier you're now um able to to be worked with to train up to be trained up as a you know as a member of the special forces team as an operator so really from that moment on it's almost like you look back and go jesus selection was quite easy not easy and as in physically easy but you know you knew what you were doing and stuff when you actually join a team the training you have to go through you know different skills different weapon systems different kind of technology whether that's communications whether that's um gps equipment whatever it is you just it's constant constant learning languages learning medical there's loads absolutely loads to take on um but for me you know my the moment i knew i was in the special forces was that was the first operation i went on which was unreal it was brilliant you know because until that point i've just been training training training it wasn't i just wanted to do the job and it was like i had a pager you know i was fully qualified out of pager pages you know so basically i was on 30 net my 30 minutes notice to move just in the uk so i couldn't leave i could leave camp but i had to be 30 minutes from camp um so basically i had this pager and it was a friday afternoon and we just left i was just out for the week gone for the weekend and i think it was friday around about four o'clock or something like that page you went off and sometimes you have a drill you know if it's drill you just have to phone up and it's just a drill process but if there's a certain code on your pager it's happening and for me i picked up that page you think it was a drill and i saw the code and i was like holy [ __ ] looks like this is real so i went straight back to camp we went straight into a mission brief and before we knew it helos came in we got all our kit packed on we went up to a ford operating base um closer to the uh the target area um and from there we we it's a place similar to this like a big open hangar where we basically mounted all our intelligence we went through our set up our area for rehearsals so all the time you're waiting to for the mission to go down um you were spending that time training up using every second spare to to get ready for the mission ahead any kind of training you just you're just doing it constantly you know any updates on intelligence coming in and then later that night well it was actually early hours of the following morning we got the call to go and mounted onto the helicopters all dressed in black balaclavas night vision goggles short stubby machine guns and it was just [ __ ] unreal um on that job i was in the helicopter team and we're hitting a target out at sea and um we had boats coming up the back of the vessel we were the helo team which would go over the top of the vessel we were fast fast rope out straight onto the target and uh it was unreal we uh we hit the target probably about just before dawn you know you hit the target just before dawn so that you can smash it in the dark and then by the time you've taken the ship you've got the natural light to be able to do the the x fill and um now i can remember looking down from the helo like i wasn't first man but the guys are gone the the fast rope dropped out you're not you're not attached to the fast rub apart from your hands so you've got all your body armor on you've got all your ammunition you've got grenades you've got your machine gun the whole lot and all that's keeping you on that rope is your hands and you slide you use that to break and to slow you down and i can remember looking down the ships doing this because the seas were that rough and you basically had to time it the fast road was down there and it was coming across like that you had to time it so that you would land on the boat as it was coming over its 12 o'clock position it was hideous any any wrong move you'd have been off the side and so basically it came my turn and i got onto the i got onto the vessel and um and then we took the [ __ ] down and uh it was amazing it was unreal unreal and then just the next morning you know just about half an hour after we took the ship and uh all teams were on board you know the sun was coming up in the horizon hilos came in and just lifted us off it was just like surreal and that's when i knew i was in the special forces is there a mission or a moment that sort of encapsulates what um being special forces is that you you remember yourself but that is that is it that is it for me you know it's like for me like doing all that specialist skills training you know like the counter for me counter terrorism and all that kind of training that's involved with that that for me is a special forces soldier some of the work that we used to do like getting to your target like you know subsurface under the with a rebreather on so there's no bubbles you know at night getting to your target that to me is special forces is it it's it's unique set of skills and to do it with the precision and the the teamwork that you're working within is just like something like i've never experienced in my life ever it's almost like you've got it's almost like you're telepathic you're that trained up with the people around you it is seamless and just as you think someone something you know that area is not covered there's someone moving to it you know it's just like it's like like it's like a symphony of people and for me you know doing all that specialist skills i mean going from a to b to a target under the sea at night to hit a target like a ship or whatever it was that for me is like special forces that is that is a unique set of skills so you come out of special forces how long were you in special fosters for six years so i did 11 years total so i was five years in the royal marines and then six years in the special forces but to be quite honest you know i was like and i say this in my books you know it didn't do it for me you know i mean and i wanted more of it you know i was in around the time where there wasn't the iraq war well there wasn't iraq there wasn't afghanistan so for me there wasn't enough of it there was you know we'd have bits and bobs here and there and that was just the norm um but for me i wanted to be i wanted to be a cold face every day that's what i thought was missing but i knew there was something missing there was something missing that i didn't feel complete and for someone that you know if i could look looked at that as a kid before i even joined i'd be like that is that would be everything for me and a lot of people do think that joining the special forces would be everything if i could do that that would tick every box and i would be totally happy i'd never want to leave but i got there and it wasn't like that there was something missing do you think that stems from having a an unfulfilled appetite for success or wanting more no i know exactly what it is but you know this is from hindsight hindsight never won any wars but it gives you a good reflection and for me this is where people get it so wrong we are all chasing an image you know i mean i was chasing an image of a special forces soldier and how that would look and i was forgetting the one fundamental thing that is so far more important than that and that's a feeling it should be the feeling you're chasing not the image you know people want the perfect house the perfect job all this and the other the perfect marriage or whatever it is but that's an image in your head it doesn't mean that when you get there you're going to feel that same passion for it we all know everyone knows that a lot of the time you you have this visualization of how something might be whether that's going out for the night going to your favorite club or whatever and it's always totally different when you get there you know what i mean so if you get too attached to the image of what you want you're going to end up being disappointed when you get there but for me i hadn't found my purpose at that point and i didn't know anything about purpose at that point i didn't go oh i haven't found my purpose it's just something that wasn't connecting and for me it's something was missing i didn't know what it was and i thought i was having mental health problems you know i thought you or there's something wrong with you if you can't enjoy this what you're doing jumping out of planes at night which you know parachuting through the sky in the dark skydiving and you know all these all these things i was doing was amazing you know why wasn't i enjoying that so then the your chase for that for that next thing carried on so then you went into was it private military or yeah but that's the thing you know i mean when i came out i wanted to do something totally different i've always wanted my own business and i always wanted to i've always wanted to create my own path and it's something i still do to this day because we're so trained you know i don't want to follow someone's footsteps i want to create footprints you know i mean that's with everything i do so i you know it was about uh redefining myself you know recreating something new so for me it was about learning about business and this that and the other and i thought that would be the security industry so i'll start my own things i started my own security company you know and providing people for uh vip security and stuff in london and then the iraq war kicked off and then for me although i said i'd never gone do that the money was phenomenal you know i look back now it's still like a phenom you know i was being paid 13 000 pounds a month tax-free back in 2003. i mean that is just ridiculous um and especially after coming off a military wage but the thing is you get drawn to the money it was all about the money for me it was money money money i was driven by money because my complete lack of it all my life you know even the military you don't get paid enough and for me i've gotten a expensive taste so the military was never going to be good enough for me um but you know for me it was about chasing the money and uh you know as soon as the iraq opportunity came up then well it pays loads you know what i mean that was the drive that was the drive and now you know looking back now i call that fool's goal because it's fools you're full for chasing the dollar and you know i can go into that later but you know you when you get to a wreck and you get to a war zone you understand why they pay you so much money uh but yeah that was the draw i then went out to to i left everything back you know i left my son i left my wife which yeah that that marriage was just falling apart it seems anyway so it was a natural thing for me to accept to go over to iraq it was a shame that my son became a byproduct to that decision but i'll live with that um but yeah i went over to iraq and that's where i then set up shop if you want to call it that and we were working for major infrastructure projects so we put the first gsm mobile network back into into iraq and we're running these big projects we turned up with a small infrastructure of ex-special forces uh only a few of us and before long we'd recruited an army of 2000 iraqis and we're training them in in bodyguard skills weapon skills and we got them to do all the work for us basically they were they were a local face on the ground and that's how we conducted operations and it was brilliant absolutely brilliant i mean those times in in the book you talk about some of the times and it sounds absolutely crazy like could you tell us some of the stories that was going off at the time yeah i mean when you look back at now i mean this is the is the wild west it was just a recreation back in you know john wayne wild west it was just crazy you know the americans were just flooding the place with us dollars you know i was down watching like million dollar stacks coming off that which they were just flooding into into the communities you know so the big american green green eyed machine had moved in and it was just everyone was just fighting for a dollar you know everyone was taking their opportunities because they didn't know where the next lot was coming from and when things like when a country falls apart you re everyone is just out for the kill you know so those times are absolutely crazy i mean the first time i got it was quite early on the first time i got into baghdad and um oh on my way to baghdad and um oh sorry i got into baghdad and initially i was working for abc news before i did the infrastructure projects and um it was around the time that the statue came down of saddam in fearless square and um everyone perceived that the war was over you know the the americans had uh saved the day and uh the war was over as we now know the war the war had really just begun um but there was this sort of misconception of the security threat at that time in baghdad or iraq in general so because we were so expensive you know our employees always tried to cut down or or reduce staff whenever they could and i was the team leader at abc news at that moment in time and i was asked to do a job that day and uh the job was to pick up the the oncoming abc bureau chief from uh from jordan jordan is a 14-hour drive there was no flights because of the surface-to-wear missile threat so it's the only way you could get there and straight away i said to the the current abc bureau chief i said right yeah we can do the job how many can i take with me and he said one other and one other we were picking up 12 people i expected to at least take as many as we've got and leave one probably one there when it doesn't take a military tactician to understand that you don't have two people looking after 12 it's usually the other way around but anyway because i didn't want to upset the uh the honey jar i took the job on and um that next day we drove out the two of us drove out to jordan and um now i knew i knew what was happening that day and what was happening is the oncoming abc bureau chief was coming into one of his top-line jobs the top of his list was to to assess the need for security so i knew this and i thought i was looking around me you know i'd given up everything to for that job we all had and we're all all earning decent cash for once in our lives a lot of a lot of cash working for it but we were earning it and for me the thought of that ending is not something i could conceive and for me again like i say you know i always visualize the outcome not the problem the outcome that suits me and so all the time you know i was driving to jordan it was 14 hours on and off with the other guy i just sat there and i was just thinking how what kind of events would change the events of time what kind of events would influence that decision about him downsizing the security so i am i know i am creative and i sat there and my little creative mind had a lot of time to think so i thought through this scenario time and time and time again of how the events of the next 24 hours could change his decision and that basically involved us getting attacked and i totally absorbed this whole concept immersed myself totally in it of how this whole thing would pan out went over and over it over it in my head actually it gave so much emotion and passion to it as if it happened so anyway that night i get to the hotel and uh i'm sat there with my number two and i'm like we're just having a beer the top the uh the uh the package is coming in at three o'clock in the morning for pick-up package being twelve people and uh i sat too i had a beer i got him one for about what i was about to tell him and i said you know what needs to happen tomorrow and he went well i said we need to get attacked and i didn't really want to get a tax and i want to make that clear i don't want to get attacked but i just said tomorrow you know i was in fantasy world if you want to call it that i said we need to get attacked i said you imagine this this is a scenario we leave the hotel tomorrow morning we get across the border which was always a nightmare we're driving on our way to baghdad the hot spot still at that time was fallujah and ramadi is a no-go area so i said we get between rimadi and fallujah and we're going to get attacked by the militia the rounds are going to go down we're going to get them out of it they're going to see everything that happens we're going to get them out of it none of our side gets hurt we're going to then get cars to baghdad at speed i said we're going to get to the compound the doors are going to fly open there's going to be a heroes welcome there's going to be champagne there's going to be cheers there's going to be everything and then we're going to get the contract signed and he laughed and i bought me another beer and i was serious i was like that's what needs to happen imagine if that happened and we talked about it you know we went i went into so much detail that even when the rounds went down in the vehicle i could smell the cord out from the bullets i could i added emotion to it you know at the end i could taste the champagne i could feel the handshake i added every emotion sight or every scent every every you know hear taste smell touch all of them i employed all of that in my in my journey my visual journey anyway we then woke up at three o'clock in the morning next morning package turned up got into the vehicles three vehicles in front of us one vehicle behind it which was ours at that point we never had any weapons because we're still in jordan and we made our way to the border as predicted we got to the border absolute nightmare that's predictable just got on the other side of there we then went off probably half an hour after the um hop over the border pulled the vehicles over we actually had what's known as a case in the military you call it cachet whatever which is a hole in the ground where we had all our weapons dug in so we went off to get them dug them all out and then we had all our weapons so i had a little mp5 kurtz it was beautiful little very handy for vehicle drills and which sits nicely on your lap some people prefer lap dogs i like a machine gun but anyway um so anyway we then got back in the vehicles so i had my number two but we've got body armor on we've got shirts over our body armor all our vehicles are clean skin um so that means or soft skin sorry all our vehicles are soft skin so that means the bullets come in they're not armored and civilian and uh anyway we're the back vehicle got number two behind me with an ak-47 and um that was it on our way to baghdad anyway it's probably 10 11 hours in and we've been swapping over and stuff and i forgot about everything i was just that tired i was so tired my head nearly hit the wheel you know i fell asleep had nearly hit the wheel i thought [ __ ] i need to spark up some conversation keep myself awake so i said to to the guy in the back dave in the back he said uh i said mate when we get back we'll have debrief then i'm going to get to the gym and he went yeah mate that's that's a good idea i'll do the same i'll do the same as i did that i noticed something flashing the rear view mirror it was about four o'clock in the afternoon it was dusk and there's not many cars on the road at that time anyway it was a three-lane highway on both sides central reservation here we were on the inside lane closest to the central reservation doing about 120 k's an hour and i noticed this flash in the headline in the in the rearview mirror and anyway i looked again and i could see what was clearly clearly another vehicle flashing its lights constantly and i sat there and i thought i was negating everything it could be and trying to make trying to create what i wanted it to be and at first i said hey dave stand by there's something coming up from uh from behind so we had a look as well and i said i know we both said look it's probably the americans and they got closer and closer and you realize it was a black vehicle black mercedes and there was another vehicle further behind that and um straight away we know it's probably not the way it's not the american military so then we thought it's another security company so we started to think about how we're going to get out of that lane to allow these people to pass and he got closer and closer and then as it got probably about 20 foot behind our vehicle i saw all the windows go down all the windows started coming down and you could just see down the side as i looked i could just see the headdress arab headdress you just see the slits of the eyes and as soon as i saw that ak-47s came out from every window of the car behind us and at that point i can remember passing the sign that said rimadi at that point i was like stand by we've got you know enemy behind um and at that point they let out a burst of fire now if you've heard an ak-47 it's quite intimidating but when you hear four it's like an orchestra from hell and it was like i i actually [ __ ] myself you know and i [ __ ] myself for more more reasons than one and that's just the fact that you know in the military when you're in the special forces you are invincible you know i mean you can call i can call in a um an um i can call in naval gunfire out at sea for support i can call in an airstrike and at that moment i was sat there thinking i've got no one i've got absolutely no one i've got the responsibility of these 12 people in front i've got the responsibility of the guy behind and it was all down to me and i was starting to get overwhelmed in that moment and it took me to really snap out of that because i was like lost in and how overwhelmed i was now start to freeze i start to freeze and if it wasn't for just i made a mental you know it's i think it was actually that gunfire when i first heard the gunfire i was like you need to do something and i snapped out of that sort of that freeze and at that point it was about forgetting the responsibility of the people in front it was about forgetting about the fear that was taking over me it was about forgetting about what could go wrong because that's irrelevant that's an emotional and mental rehearsal for what you don't want to happen so why engage in it i had to deal with that situation and at that moment i knew that they were trying to get us to pull over to the side of the road we've heard about these attacks before they pull them to the side of the road they kill everyone to take all the stuff you know take all the money these abc news they had like camera equipment they had wads of cash all sorts of stuff which they probably pinged at the customs customs anyway and let them know but at that point i had to do something and the cars right behind me anyway it wasn't something i thought about but i just told the guy to stand by and then aggressively i turned the vehicle into the center lane this then left the gap on my left hand side which they came alongside i then increased speed to to box the vehicle in behind the vehicle in front so i had it trapped and i can remember at that point looking down i can remember looking i'm driving a vehicle the mp5 curts across here i've got my hand on the steering wheel i've got the closed window there and i'm looking down i see this yankee i could tell he was young because i could see his eyes and he had a headdress all on his ak-47 would slowly come down at me but there was a moment i connected with his eyes and i still i will never forget his eyes and um i've been in scrapes before but never have i been close enough to touch someone before i've got to do what i've got to do and i didn't want to do it i really didn't want to do it um and at that moment unfortunately for him his ak-47 was coming onto my head and so was the guys behind and it was do or die and and in that moment i gave the order to open fire and as soon as i did i pop my weapon straight onto my arm through the closed window just let a burst go straight into the vehicle as i'm driving at 140 cases an hour it was a mental moment mental moment bullets rained down on their vehicle which immediately caused them to stop um died a day behind he opened fire at the same time and then we increased speed got on the comms give a contact report um and then increased our speed to baghdad we looked in the rearview mirror the car had gone to the central reservation with all smoke coming out and bonnet and um i can remember looking up as we're driving at speed you know it's all you've got is ringing in your ears from the amount of from the loud bangs and stuff in the vehicle i can remember looking forward into the vehicle in front and there's the abc bureau chief that come to assess the need for security looking out the rear of the vehicle just looking and i thought that's done the job anyway we get to baghdad the doors open if the story couldn't get any weirder and there it is champagne reception heroes welcome and i can remember opening the door and i can remember hearing this light almost like change falling on the floor and i looked down at the floor and it was all our bullets from our empty cylinders rolling out the car and all the all the glass from the window i remember looking down and then as i looked up a guy came up to me with a glass of champagne i took the champagne i tasted the bubbles tasted the taste of the champagne and um i thought holy [ __ ] i've been here before it was exactly exactly everything to the letter to the timings to the um locations everything and at that moment it's like the abc bureau chief wants to see you upstairs now when you when you do that level of um retaliation or or you take those actions you know you're held accountable for those actions you know especially when you work for a company like abc so we we didn't know what was waiting for us up at the uh in the bureau chiefs office so we went up there and both bureau chief bureau chiefs were in there at that time and uh the oncoming bureau chief just said look the actions you took were amazing i saw everything out there and basically from that point they slid papers across the table where we signed the contract for another two years now the reason i tell that story i don't take any glory from the actions that i took that day if i was forced into taking those actions and the way i angle that is the fact that i save people's lives you know and if i didn't they would be dead um but the reason that was such a monumental moment for me is it made me realize how powerful visualization how powerful positive intent is and since that moment i have used that with passion and belief with everything that i've wanted to do it's taken time to actually build it into um my everyday processes but it's that monumental moment that really changed everything and it also made me understand that our lives are a product of our imagination we can create the life that we want if we believe in it if we visualize it and if people don't believe that theory you know if if if they struggle with that which a lot of people do it's as simple as creating what you want into your subconscious like i talked about before you know our minds are a ghost driving goal getting machine that will stop at nothing until it gets what your dominant thoughts focus on that's what you're doing so for me you know when i do that i'm planting what i want the goal that i want in my subconscious you would then subconsciously take decisions and take and and make decisions and take actions that reflect your goal that is in your subconscious that was a bit freaky that day because there was other aspects that contributed to that but almost to me it was almost like the universe telling me we need to show this guy that visualization works and it stamped that in stone for me i think um you think olliolatin special forces talking about visualization is kind of a strange concept i think it's amazing it's you talking about it because it gives it more power the the the idea that you taste it you smell it you feel it like we really believe here at mullen rivers in that concept um how how do you get so you've you've been shown it like you say by the universe this works this work how do you get to the point where you were starting to have these thoughts and have these visualizations that you could you could imagine what's going to happen in the future and really achieve those things well when i look back right that from that point i spent a lot of time thinking after that i mean after that it was like forget everything that happened in that whole you know the being shot out forget that i've been shot at before you know it was like what really i spent so long just thinking about what just happened as in you know the whole visualization thing how it played out but then i look back at my life and it's been no different with everything else it's the reason i passed raw marines training it's the reason i did special forces selection you know and did it you know i kept on going to the past against all odds you know i've been doing it all my life you know but you know so it was really just confirming i mean up until that point i i couldn't have said i never said before that point you know we can visualize and we can create the life that we want through visualization i'd never said that but because of that event because it was so prolific because it was so profound to me you know anyone that tells me that it doesn't work as far as i'm concerned they're losing out i've got i've got no advantage telling people this stuff works i'm just telling you from my experience what happened you know but now i just you know a lot of this comes down the more and more i see this on a daily basis i feel that you know what when it comes to humans we don't even know our true power it's been so hidden from us by social programming education that we don't know our true power and we have got so much every person on this planet as a gift everyone has the same skills everyone has the ability to create the lifestyle that they want and those amazing that amazing gift has been taken away from us because we've been programmed socially through education everything you know we we've lost our power how does someone actively do uh work on visualization how would you know everyday person you start you start visualizing you start thinking about i mean every thing is look if i want to pass an exam a lot of people the way we're gonna the way we're wired and this comes down to evolution because we're always looking for the negatives we all know that once you create an idea in your head we always look for things that are going to go wrong we don't sit there and focus about how great it's going to be when we get that whether that's starting a new business relationship whatever it is whether it's taking your exams you always think about the panic of not passing the panic of what could go wrong and that's what we end up visualizing visualizing you know what i mean and it's about just changing that energy to be more positive so really it's the thing is with this you'll get so many people that disbelieve and will never engage in it but until they when they do it once they only need a little taste and once they've got a little taste to know that this stuff really does work that'll change their life forever you know you guys must know yourself that happens you know once you get a taste that this stuff works it's contagious like you wouldn't believe and that you know i could tell people me and my partner my fiance laura we could tell people stories that they'd no one would believe us no one would believe a word you know that the coincidences if you want to call them that they're not coincidences once you've got yourself lined up spiritually once you've created that bandwidth that is way away from fear because fear doesn't allow for creativity the opportunities are already there everything's already lined up a lot of people say in life that oh well you know i can't wait to for the opportunities to line up they're already there it's you that forgot to line yourself up and that's when you come from a place of belief and when you're not really living in a state of fear and unfortunately at the moment it's amplified at the moment fear is driving society through the news through everything through the current covid pandemic fear is driving society because that's the only way you can control a society we live in this then you look at the news you look at the newspapers everything is fear but once you disengage from that i mean i don't read any newspapers i don't watch the news i don't watch tv if i do watch tv it's very something very specific you know a film or whatever but i'm very conscious about the content that goes into here and really you know once people have a have a taste of visualization you know i do i do online courses where i get people to sit down and meditate for me meditation again people think how can this guy from the special forces meditate that's that's glastonbury hippie stuff meditation for me is my focused attention at an intention it's my moment for me to visualize create calmness in here and be able to visualize and what i want okay and once i learn to create that stillness of mind it allows that clarity of vision to what i want our heads have seventy thousand thoughts probably more going around each day now if you don't focus on some things that you want out of that 70 000 thoughts you're going to end up with a load of crap that you don't want and that's the problem with people they allow the 70 000 thoughts just to be like this washing machine of ideas and they don't define what they want in life so that's why they're basically just bouncing like a pinball from side to side not knowing where they're going and that's being decided for them but it's just about creating clear vision and intent for what you want and that for me you know is such an important process and which came years later that morning routine for me is is a life changer you know it's where i set myself up for each and every day and i dominate each and every day um i here we we definitely when you say smell taste everything you've lived that moment before it happens we believe that completely like we really do like with this place and stuff like we've we've already been here we've already done it and when you get it you're not surprised by it or anything like that it's just it was meant to happen and one thing i loved that i think is really good for people who haven't tasted it before is this will help them get out of bed in my opinion is when you talk about getting out of your wet get your wet kit and getting into your dry kit and how you how you used to visualize getting into your wet kit in the morning so can you talk can you talk about that and how you did that jungle training is is the fact that you know you operate throughout the your daytime one great thing about the jungle is the fact as soon as it goes dark that you can't operate because it's so dense you know the foliage is so dense so what you do you set up a harbor position and then you put your hammocks up in darkness and one the routine you go through every day is you always have a dry set kit always you know in your bag so at the end of the day when you're when you get into the jungle your body starts to rot you know so by the end of six you know your feet are rotten you absolutely stink the ammonia and everything from you is disgusting and one thing one luxury your only luxury you do have is that when it is dark when you've set everything up in the dark it's pitch black you can't see a thing and you've set up all your bed your hammock your bed system and everything your overhead cover and the pitch black you then reach into your into your backpack and you pull out your dry kit and your dry kit is just like heaven absolute heaven so you take your wet kit off which is stinking you put that in a bag put that away and then you put your dry kit on and it's like unbelievable it's it's just it's luxury beyond anything you've ever experienced before but then the flip side to that is the next morning you know you have to have everything packed away in pitch black there's no alarm clocks or anything you know you're just working on your body clock you have to have everything in your way so that when the sun peaks it peaks over the horizon and there's any aspect of light whatsoever you're all waiting with your weapons up ready you know ready to go um because that's the most likely time of attack from the enemy but the thing is to get to that point you then have to pull in your old wet kit from the day before and in pitch black you have to change out your dry kit put your dry kit in a bag put that back into your backpack and then you have to put on your stinking wet kit and it is absolutely feral you do this every day every day and it was the smell it's just pungent and you're putting on this cold wet damp kit and i just every day i just had to i was saying to myself that message and it was like oh i love these armani's these are the best armor i look so good in these armani i wasn't saying it but you know that's going through my head and that's the only way i got through it and i just made it into something else it's all about reframing you know it's still cold and it's still wet but you know the whole mental game of me focus on the inconvenience and discomfort of it had gone you know i did that every day it just helped me get through and it's that messaging with everything you know that that bleeds into every aspect of your life it's just how you frame things ah simple way i think to be quite honest i mean it's like with everything i mean let's try and relate this to people taking exams for instance or something like that you know if you're going to sit there and think you know about how much the study is getting you down how much you hate doing what you're doing the more you focus in that like i said to you before you know you you're not focusing on your goal you're not focusing on something that different that pulls you out of that situation so you're lost in your circumstances of that moment you become a victim of them you know i mean and the only way that internal messaging is just to get yourself through that is it's like one thing i'll say about goals is is not a lot of times you have big um ballsy goals and they should always be ballsy it should be something that you doubt your ability to achieve but the thing is you should have many goals you know i mean a big goal should always you never have a goal that you know you can achieve you have a goal that scares the [ __ ] out of you you should always have that but the goal must be able to broken down into small chunks so really it's about when you're going through that hard stuff it's about creating a small short-term goal that gets you from moment to moment to moment but it's that whole internal messaging if you sit there and you're studying for an exam or something like that and you're focusing on how [ __ ] this is and how much time it's taken and how you're not enjoying it you ain't passing it the um the one thing when you're talking about visualization is you don't want to just frame this right you said you don't want to get stuck in the picture yeah but like visual a lot of people when they think of visualization they're going for the picture not the feeling how do you define the two and how do you stay away from getting obsessed with the picture as opposed to the feeling that all comes down to purpose at the end of the day you've got to define what your purpose is and the problem is when you're young and you haven't had many experiences in life that means that you need to get out there and stop putting you start treading you know point you throwing yourself into loads of different experiences because you need to start defining what really makes you tick so it's about defining your purpose initially you you've really got to step into the short-term discomfort for long-term gain and start doing things in life you know not be not stop following someone else's path and be you know follow the program so to speak but and then later in life if you're like had loads of experiences it's about sitting down and writing down write down all the things that really excited you if you you need to define your purpose what is your purpose in life you know once you do that you define you you know going back over history what where have i felt really good about myself what have i enjoyed most and then you'll start to define your purpose so that really all comes down to purpose i mean for me i didn't find my purpose until 2011 you know and that was when i was rescuing the kids from child prostitution slavery in thailand and i didn't know i didn't know the gift that that would give me you know so for me i you know i wasn't searching for my purpose i didn't know there was such thing as defining your purpose at that point i just thought i just couldn't find anything that would satisfy me and my my life was just haywire you know and then i went over to thailand we were involved in operations rescuing kids from child prostitution slavery you know and growing them ill infiltrating enemy camps and getting the kids out and that for me when i actually saw these kids then go to the orphanage and then the week later or a couple of weeks later you seen these kids you know very young kids walking down the street with a school uniform on in the satchel and only weeks before they were about to be sold into some kind of some brothel that is [ __ ] rewarding uh yeah i want to touch i definitely want to touch on what you was doing in thailand um just on uh finding purpose you know i think some people i've had this conversation recently with somebody um we're talking about purpose and it says yeah but i don't want to test that out i i think i know what i want to do right now and i think what you're talking about is perfect you just need to get you need to live that's how you how for somebody who's in that mindset is like i don't know what to do though what what do they have to do well you have to you have to start getting experiences in life you really have to stop pushing the ball whether us travel with us you know everyone will have a passion or a desire to be something you know what i mean whether that's someone that wants to travel a lot whether that's someone that wants to be in business you've got to stop pushing the boat out and start start experiencing with things you know what i mean so you've really got to push the boat and some experiences you're not going to enjoy but you start noting down the things you're doing during before you know it you can define the purpose of where you're supposed to be and what floats your boat so yes towards the end of your career you went up to thailand and yeah can you just explain for that and also that i remember there's a point where for you you'd really like you said you'd found your purpose just talk us through that that particular occasion no i mean i came back i was in iraq for six seven years and it was getting far too much on top you know some of the lads we lost a couple of lads and um it was just being in a war zone for six years it's just far too much you are going to have mental health issues it's like going back to i mean for us we were going back to a prison every every time we came away on leave and then we'd go back and it was like it was like being in prison self-imposed prison we used to go out and stop but basically we had these villas that we we'd put steel all on the inside of the house so every time the bullets went down we just locked ourselves in um and it was all getting too much and i had to leave um so i left and then again like i did when i first left the special forces i thought i need to get i'm going to try and redefine myself so i got into sort of property i need to stay out of war zones all this and the other and i was getting into property into real estate and i just got so bored so bored and something and then i heard about the grey man which was an organization that was rescuing kids from child prostitution and slavery that was operating in southeast asia i was introduced to this ex commando australian commando that was running the operation or it was his operation and basically asked me to come on board and um for me you know 1.6 million kids a year in southeast asia are sold into slavery and prostitution by their families now when i heard those stats and it's probably a lot more more than that but when i heard those stats for me you know i complained about not getting a hug from my father or whatever as a kid these kids are sold by their parents into a life of slavery and prostitution they know what's going to happen to them and i couldn't get my head around that so for me i wanted to be part of of helping change these kids lives you know i consider myself very fortunate for the life i've had although we can sit and drip and complain about this and the other you know in comparison to these kids that you know something had to be done so i used i used my money from iraq it was all self-funded by me and uh i went over to southeast asia and that's where we started you know initially we were working in the brothels trying to identify kids and working with the anti-human trafficking department in thailand and then we when we went in to do the busts um all the staff had changed so you know they were they were leaking the information to the to the brothels and it was just pointless absolutely pointless so from that point i then went into i thought you've got to get with everything you've got to get to the source of the problem forget the stuff on the fringes and um we went and worked with another organization called kosa children of southeast asia and we went to basically the thai and burmese border and we were a load of camps um where they held kids waiting to be processed by the cartels um so you know taken to the fishing villages taking to the to the clubs um taken to the sweatshops all that kind of stuff so they would be held in these camps so it's our job to basically get in there to these camps either before the cartels got there or between the fat time they'd come up before they actually took them away and intercept these kids before the cartels got back so it was it was amazingly hairy it was the first time in my career that i'd made the decision not to take weapons we'd made the decision not to take weapons which was a big call because it's what i've always relied on and um to not take the thing is we if we if we had had the weapons then we could easily have been identified as dea and that could have caused further problems so we made the decision not to and basically we got in and got a load of these kids out but unfortunately we had such a good run that our organization back home back in australia was so proud of what we'd done uh that they went out to the media and again in hindsight it was the wrong thing to do but at the time you know we were just had a few big wins we were on a bit of a euphoric moment and uh they put it in the paper anyway it caused a massive international incident that it was in the papers all over the world and we were still in country we went on to further operations out there and then we got the call to you've got to get out as quick as possible the u.s state department had gotten to the thai government said look we're reading a newspaper here we give you millions of dollars every year and you do nothing and there's a four-man team gone in and done more than you've ever done and uh so the tiger denied that any such activities were going on they stated that the gray man organization was a bogus charity and that we were milking you know putting the money in our own pockets and uh there was basically a manhunt for us so it was a rest on site and we had to escape out of thailand across the burmese border back home and the thing for me the hardest thing for me was the fact that i'd thrown everything into that i thought that was my new life i'd found my purpose my purpose would i saw the power of helping other people and that is such a phenomenal gift when you actually help people less fortunate than you or just in general anyway i think that is something that we have lost the power to to harness everyone is like hunting for the most social media followers and the more followers on instagram whatever it is even in a place of work when you're working on the same team there's people fighting against each other because they want the cue just being better than the other person you know we forgot how to work together we forgot we there's not many people that do selfless acts of kindness anymore for someone for no reward and that for me you know i paid to go over there there was no reward for me helping these kids and that was the biggest reward in itself it was phenomenal it does i mean that's something that i would say if you get a chance go read the book like the whole section is amazing i mean the whole book is but yeah such like and it's so sad the way that kind of ended as well um and your conclusion on it as well is that it's kind of like it's a bigger problem than than kate then you can solve right now yeah which is sad um just uh just talking so we don't you know your new venture at the moment what's that based on is that could you run through that it's not something i've read into at the moment and especially your newspaper the new book basically on the new book yeah the new book basically the way my books have gone i mean for me breakpoint was all about setting the foundation of who i am the credibility to be able to talk in further books of what i wanted to put out there you know it creates the foundation you know my i don't my credibility is my heritage because i'm not just someone off instagram or whatever that says oh this is what you know it comes from experience and a lot of the lessons i've learned have been been harsh but really it's about you know it's like failure in life i mean my book you know my break point is about failure it's not about success but for me failure is growth you know as long as you look at failure as a milestone of growth and what did you learn from it and how did you move forward from that that to me is growth it's not failure you know so i think the more you know the last thing i will ever do is fake perfection i want to keep making mistakes all my life because i know i'm working hard when i do that so really my second book gave me my first book gave me the foundation to be able to write my second book which really does push into the personal development space and that is battle ready battle ready is the process that i use when i came back when i did the thailand operation i came back i'd fallen apart my life was in a is a real mess my mental state was horrendous and it was how battle ready is about the process that i followed to get myself out of that when i look at people having mental health problems the reason they've got mental health problems is because they're lost in the circumstances why they got mental health problems they talk and talk about talk about why they got you know what happened to them and for me when you adjust mental health to mental wealth that's the moment you stop throwing the line out of that dark hole and start pulling yourself out of it and that really you know that goes back to everything i've said about having a goal that's about creating a goal that is not based on your current circumstances okay don't focus on where you want to be focus don't focus on where you are focus on where you want to be it's about casting the stone to that and then following that stone so really battle ready is the process that i followed when i got back to the uk finally in 2014 and my life had fallen apart i came back to the uk with no money no nothing but i came back with a vision and that was the vision to create a globally identified brand recognized for the positive growth and development of others and that was breakpoint and that was my company and that's that was the most powerful thing i came back with worth more than any money in the bank and for two months i put myself into a boot camp i put i isolated myself on my own in a house down in cornwall where my family are and i went through mental processes day in day out i cut away the drugs i cut away the alcohol i needed to admit based on clarity not confusion and i'd started putting in the visualization because i learned that in iraq i couldn't get any money from the bank to start my business so i just thought what else i've got to play with and that was just personal development stuff it's all i had so i visualized every day i wrote a contract to myself of where i wanted to be i signed it and i used to repeat that to myself every day every day i used to repeat that i created goals wrote them down and i spent every day it was like a mindset boot camp doing everything listening to podcasts you know personal development podcasts everything and i did that for two months and it's one point you know i was like i had no money i was went spending what i had on to get websites done and all this and i was running out of cash fast my family was saying to me you know you need to you need to forget this you know go back to the security world you know go and do what you guys do that kind of messaging and i was like no it's break point you know it's i i was so passionate about that idea i was going to stop i wasn't going to stop until i was forced to stop and i'd hooked up again with foxy from the show not seen him for 13 years we both shared the same vision to start breakpoint and it did get to the point at the end of that two months and i'm sitting there thinking this doesn't work i was like i was asking show me a sign i was thinking that thing in iraq didn't mean anything it was just a coincidence you know there's no message there i'll start feeling negative and i had to fight those thoughts and emotions and you know i used to sit there visualizing every day about me and foxy being on the stage and talking about our experiences and how people then could benefit from that experience and then how we would use that to employ veterans suffering with ptsd how we could help um uh unfortunately you know not not that's the wrong way how we could help disadvantaged kids you know but then offer professional services to corporates and i saw it you know i saw the vision of me and foxy on a stage you know loads of people there big audience loving what we said and then it was all coming to you know i started to doubt myself in the end it was getting out i was having to fight that doubt that seeded out was in and then all of a sudden out the blue foxy phone and he said you know that idea we've got breakpoint he said would you like to would you consider doing that on tv and i was like you're [ __ ] kidding me he was like a gift from the gods and he i was like i thought fox he was in the public first i was like are you drunk and he says no i'm with the production company now do you want to talk to him i said yeah and that's how it started but for me when i look at that i was so intense and so regimented and so disciplined about what i did day and diet day in and day out it didn't deliver to me in the short term this was all going and going and then it delivered to me i saw me and foxy on stage that was the biggest stage you can ever want to want to wish for and that was the platform for breakpoint i mean that that's amazing um one thing when you just talk about it then i'd love to hear some something more on is the writing yourself a contract yeah and an adeering to that like what how did what did you write down and how did you go through it was an official contract i've still got them i still use them for people it's actually in the book called the promise in my new book and really for me it was creating see when you've got years and years of programming social programming programming from school everything and and we end up you know the older we get we end up becoming subject to repeat habit loops you know and that comes back to like i said before about um evolution you know it just wants us to repeat what we did yesterday and the day before because it kept us alive till today so we are creating we embrace habit so really if you want to change that you have to make your today a yesterday to be proud of not only yesterday how you want your future to be so for me it was about you have to change the blueprint it's all about changing the subconscious you can't sort you can't deal with anything in the frontal cortex all right this is where we think we can solve everything in the front you know frontal cortex that i do you have to plant it in the in the subconscious so for me it was about rewriting that blueprint so the contract for me it was an official document which makes it feel important and it was for me every morning as i read out that contract it was my name and i filled in my name by this day i will have my own business called breakpoint you know i put a date it's so important you put a date on there otherwise as far as the universe is concerned a million years is nothing but you have to have a date on there you put your name on it you have put your date in there put your date on there and then put what your intention is what you want it's just it's just another way of setting a goal um and then a few bullet points on there about i know i'll have doubts but i have support you know i have a visionary passion and then i signed it with the date on the bottom and it was a document just for me to go through every day you know and then go to the mirror talk say you people try this right you come up with an idea who you want to be you write that down and then you go on you go and tell yourself in the mirror read it out to yourself everyone will go i feel like an idiot because that's your ego but i tell you now if you can't tell yourself what you're what you want how can you expect to achieve it so as soon as you cross that bridge and get over your ego and forget the thousand person audience that isn't there that changes everything and that for me was changing that rewriting rewriting the blueprint and this is not something you have to keep on doing i'm now naturally that way so i just have to think things but initially when you have to change your processes and get into some kind of discipline gold setting it's very clunky you know i mean you have to go through these very regimented processes like i did so anyway the point is my second book is that process explained and the second book is really a workshop of how you can do the same thing you know so i let people follow the exact journey that got me to where i am today and that's the book battle ready i think um like i said society has led us down so long down the wrong path so you're saying this book is just kind of strip you back and then go be able to go down and it's regaining your power my book is about regaining your power people who people of the majority of people out there don't think they have any power they don't understand the power that we have the power that we have to create exactly what we want look at was it roger bannister was it ballista the four-minute mile yeah right before he did the four-minute mile everyone said it couldn't be done everyone said no they can't do that as soon as he broke it everyone broke it afterwards why is that because until they knew that a human could break that their minds couldn't allow it to be conceived and that just makes you understand that you know it's all locked in here people just don't understand that we're socially programmed to create limitations and we will only actually go outside of those limitations once we know someone else can achieve it and it's been proved you know a lot of people will only want to to do will actually state goals only if they know they can achieve them because they're scared of looking stupid so much ego plays in here people are ruled by their egos and it's holding them back from the true potential i think that it like us i mean i've said this before and i'll say it again on that it's so it's strange almost to hear you say that for coming from where what we perceive military guys to be like to hear you say about this visualization and stripping back the ego and that sort of stuff um it's amazing to hear uh i i'm excited for this to go out as well just i want to throw some words at you it's not quick fire it's just whatever you think when it comes to mind yeah and the first one i want to start with because i know you spoke about it quite a lot is is doubters doubters feel sorry for them at the end of the day allow that to give you power not don't don't don't allow their doubt to be contagious you know what i mean there's two ways you can there's two ways you can go you can go left and right on that one doubt can can allow them to almost let that seed of doubt be contagious but just reframe that i think i'm going to prove you wrong quitters quiz quitters quitters sorry quitters i don't know i was going to say losers [Laughter] quitters don't quit don't ever quit you know persistence beats resistance you know that for me quitters is failure you know but also understand that failure is um you know success is is is is a series of failures so people that quit the only people that fail are people that quit you know if that stops you from achieving your goals then you know you have failed you're embracing failure the hard path the hard path is the only path you know at the end of the day you have to push through that short-term discomfort for any long-term gain and that is the ethos of break point but nothing comes easy you know a lot of people say that there were so many obstacles in the path that obstacles are the path okay you get and it is always short term you know it's a case of just pushing through that short term discomfort embrace the discomfort that's where you grow success is a series of failures success is a series of failures you've got to keep on to to achieve anything that i have to achieve to to achieve success in life you must fail and keep on failing and always when you start faith always know that if you're failing throughout your life as long as you're not repeating the same failures that you're growing at the same time um you've spoke about this so i'm excited to say this one ego here you go ego is a big one and ego is the one thing that's going to hold you back from anything you know one thing you've got to learn to be is an emotional observer and that's not just for the ego that's with everything that's aggression that's with every kind of emotion that's with fear and once you learn to observe your emotions such as ego i mean i'm not egoless we've all got ego it serves a purpose in some circumstances but i know through any situation i know when ego's coming in i could stop it before it gets there you know what i mean but that has become that is because i am i am an observer of my emotions it's the same with everything if i can explain that in probably a little bit better is the fact that you imagine a fast flowing stream when you're consumed by your emotions you're in that fast flowing stream when you can become an observer of your emotions you're stood on the side of the riverbank choosing which emotions you want to align with but really and the way to do that you know because that can sound quite kind of confusing is it's about breathe recalibrate deliver okay and that is not taking action straight away on instinct straight away all the time it's about in a pressured situation cortisol increases in our system which causes confusion the only way you can deal with that is through breathing okay to lower cortisol deep breaths allow clarity and not confusion and then you can make the right decisions but saying that you have to do that within five seconds would you yeah just just whilst we're on that the uh your breathing technique that you spoke about just would you be able to explain that i think i could help quite a lot of people typically an oppression situation and they do teach this in special forces in some countries now but breathe it's all down to your breathing you know what basically happens when we go into a pressured situation that could be a negotiation in business it can be being shot out it can be being attacked by a monkey whatever it is your breathing becomes erratic it's your fight or flight response starting to take over okay but what happens through that is your your cortisol level starts to increase and that causes confusion again like well our heads can only handle five to nine pieces of information at any one time in a stress situation it's only one to two so really in that moment by first of all controlling your breathing you breathe that allows that clarity of thought you then focus only one to two things that matter at that moment in time that's triage in the situation so that's what we call recalibrate recalibrate is getting rid of things that don't matter like that situation i was in when i was in iraq and i was being shot i was going 140 k's an hour i was driving the car i had to shoot you know all that stuff going on if i didn't have a control pattern of breathing in that moment i've lost it but that's that's recalibration and then once you recalibrate and get rid of everything you that doesn't matter you focused on what you need to do that's when you deliver so breathe quick breaths control breaths recalibrate focus on what you need to and then deliver the action well is it um four seconds in like i could have but it depends on the situation right last thing you want to do you know if if you know you're going into a situation well i know i'm going into a pressured situation whatever it is you can start that box breathing it's cool so breathe in for four hold for four breathe out for four hold for four and it's that control pattern okay when you're in a city when you find yourself in a situation you don't get the luxury of that time you know what i mean you've got to take action but you've got to focus on having a controlled um uh pattern of breathing now one thing to do is make sure that you breathe out okay first because that sends a message to your head that the situation is okay it just sends them messages that's that's just a shortcut but then you need to get into a pattern of breathing but if you're about to be killed don't start going on mindset mindset mindset is everything you know it's mindfulness and everyone's got to understand that nothing happens in your physical world or everything happens in your physical world as a product of your mindset you know until you're mentally prepared you're never physically ready so whatever it is you're doing i mean and if you want to know what you think about look at your life that's what you think about and if you want to improve that you need to improve your thinking um there was one thing this is away from something i forgot to ask about and it might be completely irrelevant to to this it was um you spoke about in i think it was in the marines the grey man the mentality the greyman and it just you reminded me when you when he was on about the project in thailand um when i heard you describing the grey man i thought that an everyday person could benefit from that it's not about the bravado or it's about like that guy in the corner as you described it the guy in the corner do you think that has a benefit to be an ob that observant person i think being the grey man is how you how you need to deal with everything i mean i learned this more than anything on special forces selection you know if you're right at the front and and the thing is with special forces selection you're not looking for the fastest and the strongest you're looking for the person that gives the most but you know there's there's one thing about being the grey man and that's they're the people that you look at you know that that's that that's the they're the people that you know are the interesting characters you know the ones at the front they just get themselves highlighted you know that's all about ego so they're ego driven but the person that can reserve themselves and sit in the pack and not be the worst but not be the best and just taking the information in the center of the pack they're the ones that will deliver at the end of the day you know it's not the people that need to be seen to be at the front i i love i love the idea of it the concept of it as well like there's just something about it that's unbelievable is that so is that what the project was named after in thailand yeah it was and we just started again so like i said in the book that you know we had to we had to um disband the grey man i've just started it in the uk now so gray man rescue is we're looking into rescue kids so it started up again that's amazing yeah um is there anything i really i'm so happy about what we've covered is there anything that you would want to you want to cover at all um one meter square one mixed square one meter square elite performance psychology right this is because everything at the moment you'll see soon but one meter square i've got to be careful what we're saying here because everything's getting rebranded one meter square let me mention about one meter square though what it what it's all about you know one meter square you know in pressured situations um especially in the special forces but you know in any pressured situation what you have to do you know when all around you is falling apart you have to forget about everything on the outside world you have to bring it down into one meter square okay just focus on your immediate environment and that is making sure that everything in your environment is still moving forward it still has momentum and that is want me to square psychology that's what me and foxy talk about a lot so there's big things to come with one meter square i'm excited to hear um i do i genuinely recommend like we we have people on all the time i read the book this weekend um absolutely loved it so i'm going to be going going for the new book for sure but i genuinely recommend there'll be a link in the description to go for all the stuff um really good material and uh thank you so much for coming on really do appreciate it so much yeah it's gonna be amazing to release this so thank you very much yeah wicked that was lovely man that was a that's probably one of my favorites

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[u/mrupperbody]

Amazing. I have also experienced visualisations playing out in reality a good few times much like this. It is so powerful that I stopped believing in it for a few years due to fear of creating a god complex. Cheers for sharing and for reminding me.