Joe Rogan Experience #1554 - Kanye West

hello mr west what's up what's going on man good to see you guys seeing you too we finally did it we're here we made it happen we're in the building yes sir so what what are you doing you running for president uh yes what made you decide to do that aren't you busy enough clothing company successful rapper family man it was something that god put on my heart back in 2015 uh a few days before the mtv awards it just it hit me in the shower and when i first thought of it i just started like laughing to myself and it like all this like joy came over my over my body just through my soul and i could just i i just felt that energy i felt that spirit so then two days later i uh accepted the michael jackson video vanguard awards at the uh mtv awards and um instead of performing you know my array of hit songs you know i gave uh just my perspective on award shows but always i knew at the end i was going to tell people i'm running for office i'm running for president in 2020. and you know just to have the it it even took heart to say it in that context and people were just like oh like their their minds are blown and then i was hanging out with different i had different friends that were you know some people in the music industry some people tech elites different things like that and they would um really you know they just really took it as a joke and they're telling me all these millions of reasons why i couldn't run for president i remember running into oprah two days or one day after that and she's like yeah i want to be president and you know people just you know thought projecting putting this on you and i i remember saying uh one of my responses to one of the people that one of the naysayers was well definitely be a billionaire by that time uh and not that that's a reason why someone should become president but it's to say you know at that time i was uh 50 around 50 million dollars in debt and i knew i had the confidence that i would be able to turn that around and now you know just going into i want to just give you a a yeah that that's a clear answer right someone i know what you're saying i don't i don't want to go off on two of them no it's okay yeah what you're basically saying is you know how to set goals you know to achieve them but what was oprah's rationale when she said you don't want to be the president like what was she saying because i remember when people were saying that that's our next president remember when trump got elected you know they showed oprah and they were saying like there was i believe it was like nbc tweeted it this is our next president like they a lot of people wanted oprah to want to run and they felt like if trump could win oprah could win when i saw trump win i was like see you can win you know i was um you can win if you're coming from outside of politics i was young when ronald reagan was in was president i don't remember ronald reagan was the governor of california before he was the president he had actually proven himself as a politician at least somewhat which is an idea that people have thrown out at me to to be governor california to be governor of california anyone's better than this guy just do just go ahead start there get a shot open things up again man but i think and i think my calling is to be uh i i believe that my calling is to be the leader of the free world not not i mean if if it's in god's plan that part of my path is to be the governor then that's fine but my call is to be the leader of the free world so when you say this like when you say your calling is to be the leader of the free world what what does that mean to you does that does it mean do you have a plan that's different than the plans that have been implemented before does it mean that you have ideas what kind of plan like the plan to be the leader like what would you do if you were the leader of the free world like what would be different about the way you would handle things like if that's your plan like what is it about that that that is your calling like why why would you want to do that like what do you want to do differently if you were the leader of the free world well um well there was a couple questions in there you said why is you know why is that your calling there's people who will say to me you know they'll say well music is bigger than politics or more influential than politics or celebrities or more influential and uh i thought of it like if i was a pastor of a hundred thousand person church but then i was also um uh a captain a sailor and then we went to war and i said i'm gonna man this ship that has a thousand people a thousand soldiers on it because god is calling me to take this position even though i'm the pastor for you know however big my audience is in hip-hop uh in music or as a just an influencer or celebrity uh or just as a dad and a husband in my house the world is like there couldn't be a better time to put a visionary in the in the captain's chair um and that's not to say we we haven't had visionaries be uh before i'm not coming here to down any of the other uh i'm not here to down trump down biden uh i'm just here to express why um uh why god has called me to take this position so when you say a visionary you think of yourself in in terms of like as an artist as a creator some someone who has these thoughts that they manifest in in terms of music and art creation design the things that you do that's why you you think you're different as a visionary yeah i i i think that i think i'm different from i mean we're all different so i'm definitely different from everybody we're all different from each other i mean i do bump into people that seem to be like the same character inside of yeah it's like i've said people before yeah people play the same roles like well i just met you before that you're just like the head of this company over here you're the same kind of person um yeah you know i mean i manifest i see things i'm a great leader because i listen and i'm empathetic and i feel the entire earth and i feel us as a as a species as the the human race like i do sometimes people think of uh utopia as almost like a negative word that's that's like we couldn't have that but i do believe in world peace like the people hit me with the one of the things oprah said is she said you got to bone up on your foreign affairs i remember this like because it's oprah talking so i'm going to remember a lot of what the conversation was but that's the first thing she said was you know uh foreign affairs and foreign policies like just i think the reason why i say leader and that politician and not even specifically uh president is uh this is the time you know when when the constitution was written that was an innovation now the world is innovated all around our political system but we haven't innovated and simplified our political system so i met with um this gentleman sam uh one of the founders of y combinator so y combinator is a a um is a contract that my friend the head of dropbox used um and that a lot of tech guys use and it's a standardized deal so one of the ideas i had when i was um as i'm in this process of innovating i'm not i'm not in war with the music industry it's just it's time for us to innovate uh and we need to have contracts that make sense with exactly how we sell music so you know people every vicinia and that's like uh every 20 years that's like the like decade is 10 vicinia is 20. and as you see now it's like the world is just stopped for a second and there's an opportunity to look and say what are the things we need what are the things we don't need so i don't know if you saw when i posted my contract i had 10 contracts that kept on putting me inside a labyrinth and there's things that we don't need now i believe that the distribution partner that the label is like prince would go and say oh we don't need the distribution partner especially if prince was you know really alive and thriving in this internet era i'm the kind of person where i'm not trying to go and eliminate anyone's job so record labels are afraid of saying okay we're going to hand over the distribution completely to you guys which is you know that's a possibility there's a way where both parties can be happy and that these infrastructure partners can be of service to the influencer to the artists like these these deals can be flipped in a way that they're just more fair uh you know a record and i'll just let let me just go into the specific uh place with the record labels for a second yeah i'm talking about that this is a confusing thing for people on the outside yeah so before when i told my father i wanted to rap he was uh very like leery of that idea he said this this i heard this business is terrible and you know he's right like people are all seeing things that are wrong inside of contracts turning blind eyes to it and everyone's responsible everyone's a part of it you know it's like when the me too movement happened you know it wasn't just the guys that were getting tagged and you know some of the guys should have got hit with it some guys shouldn't you know that's not what i'm here to talk about i'm saying that in a way everyone's responsible everyone's a part of the problem that's why i really love that um black mirror episode when you know everyone was making comments and anyone that even made a comment the bees it was about these uh you know uh mechanical bees anyone and this is a spoiler alert if you haven't seen this episode but anyone who made a comment the bees came to go get them and that's the thing about what you put in the universe even a thought you know you put that thought into the it's another thing to say something negative and put that into the universe it's another thing to see someone being raped you know that's the reason why i compare what's happening to in the music industry to me too because artists are raped you've heard that term before i'm not this is not like i'm it's not like a new thing that i'm making up the the contracts are made to rape the artist and um you know i put my like i i think about you know this is like a thought that right now it's like is this a a negative thought that i'm putting into the universe but i have to say like when i was going on twitter i was thinking about bruce and brandon lee that crossed my mind to say i'm this is sony this is universal and i'm willing to put the blue paint on my face and go out and do this because it's the right thing to do like music like at this point it loses me money it doesn't make it doesn't make me money it is my my five billion dollar net worth and 300 million dollars of cash that i see a year music is like negative 4 million for me so these contracts for me were kind of like wang grow and heat where this guy had everything but he still said wang grow messed up this this uh this heist that we're going to do like i look at the music industry and that music and the love of music itself but the music industry i look at it like wang girl like i blame you know the loss of my mother partially on in the entertainment industry the always fighting to you know represent you know who you are against media entertainment in an industry that's trying to tear down anybody that's not uh going with the flow i i see you know i've got those kind of reasons personally uh but uh vengeance is mine said the lord so it's not a matter of going in for revenge that's just me as a human being where i fall short like i'm not a monk can you explain what you're talking about with bruce lee and brandon lee like what i lost you there okay so bruce lee and brandon lee were both murdered well brandon lee died in an accident on a movie set yeah do you think it was a murder i felt that's a conspiracy right the conspiracy was that the chinese triad killed him the same way they killed bruce but this the the coroner's report was that bruce died from uh a reaction to a medication right yeah i mean but i think about that anytime i go to the go to the hospital i'm very you know i'm mindful of that stuff you think about like bob marley they didn't just jfk or mlk him there's like reports that it was something in his toe or he had cancer right i believe he had a skin cancer yeah like i went to go uh i got a shot in my uh in my hand because uh just from texting and stuff my thumb was like hurt and then i told you so much you hurt your thumb absolutely just texting way too much so i post a picture of uh the screen at the hospital and then i was asked to take it down by but who people just call them i forget exactly who asked me but it was like they get they got to my management they got to this and they said take that picture down like the hospital it was in the weirdest place you know so what what did they not like about the picture um i think it had like it might have had some information on it that they didn't want to go out like an address or something like that it's just like but i don't want to go down go down these rabbit holes i'm just saying like michael jackson not waking up one day prince not waking up one day bruce and brandon lee bob marley all of these things are have crossed my mind you know as i'm going and saying i need to innovate what these contracts are not just for me but for all artists it's not about me getting my masters back it's about it's about freedom and i say on a new song i say if i would put myself in harm's way to get my masters they would put their self in harm's way to stay the master and that's there's a complete parallel to the way the music industry works and the way the world currently works and the influence that america has on other countries and the way governments work uh the influence and the way government and the way people in power and control deal with you know disaster relief deal deal with haiti deal with uh the bahamas like where is the money going why aren't things being built and this concept of money right i asked myself this um uh i asked someone a week ago like how much is america in debt and they were like this many trillion and then i asked my a rhetorical question but the dumbest question i've ever asked myself i said well you know how much does the earth cost think of it think about a bad question but but how much is the earth worth yeah what is what is the earth what all the things on earth yeah and it's saying we can't buy it we couldn't make enough money to buy the earth right so that means we made money so if money is the key to all people's happiness and we'll solve everything and everyone's doing things for money let's just make more money but it's not about making more money it's about keeping poor people poor and rich people rich and people keeping people in their place and right now we're experiencing the fall of rome or the titanic has now hit a glacier and there's people who would prefer to go down with the titanic than to get on a lifeboat because they don't want to get sea water on their dress or on a nice outfit the people are so programmed and brainwashed into uh classism and protectionism that uh it's difficult for people to embrace innovation unless it has a tag on it it's got a name brand connected to it that says with this innovation you will be better than the person you'll be better than your next-door neighbor you know when i made sunday service i i completely stopped rapping because i didn't know how to rap for god you know all my raps always had like um you know like nasty jokes on it and um and then you know i made um i made uh when i when i went to the hospital i know you want to get into this when i went to the hospital in 2016 i wrote uh start a church in calabasas and as we left from 2018 going into 2019 i said i'm not gonna let one sunday go by without starting this church and there's people who said it wasn't a church and different things but to start a ministry i'm like the little drummer boy where i'm saying you know this all i got to bring my my drum i might not be well versed in the word and but i i know how to do make music and i know how to put this choir together and all things can be made good for god so it like quickly became the best choir of all time because all the best singers moved to california and now but a lot of them grew up in the church so it's like the opportunity for for them to actually get paid singing for god because i would be funding it and that for me was like a tithe for me to fund sunday service and i was four months in before i gave my life to god like i wasn't saved it's just i had a calling saying just go make this church and the whole thing the comparison to this church to me going and saying okay why why am i running for president is to be in service and that's service to my my own ego uh you know i feel like god says to me like haven't i given you enough and i gave you an ego that helped you overcome all these you know roadblocks and smoke screens and people telling you what you can't do now you need to realize when you're doing things for your ego and when you're doing things for me this is like god the what i feel god is saying to me uh because it really irritates me when people say god told me to tell you so i'm very like mindful with this kind of word and this i'm saying i have a feeling that that's what god is saying for me to be in service so the ultimate service position is leader of the free world to be the president of the united states it's sometimes you see me on twitter i'll say i want all the smoke i want all the problems because the problems are the opportunities there's an opportunity to solve things and kurzweil uh he created the keyboard kurzweil uh he he has this video that marco manik this uh director that shot 99 problems for jay-z which is like my favorite uh maybe like top five or top two favorite videos of all time uh he also did a closer for trent rezner and i like i just grew up on mtv in the 90s and i love mark romantic videos but he would share um he'd share little bits and pieces i remember ray curls kurzweil talking about the ability for us to have a utopia but us being led by the least noble and the most greedy but if someone or when someone gets in a position of leadership that is in service to god and in service to people period but immediately the american people um i had this joke i was saying like man no one outside of our country should be able to see these debates this is family business right here this is only for america to see we can't let anyone outside the country see it but to be in service so i i stepped away already from my rap career for a year and served god every week sometimes twice a week three times a week never missed a sunday until covet and um and this thing there were people inside of the church stealing doing different things trying to just take them and god still provided a way for us to keep that boat afloat we never missed a we never missed uh a service and then uh one of my pastors pastor adam who is uh uh uh the way he preaches is is called expository it's like one to one by the word i like all different kind of preachers but there's some type of preachers they they get up they have the bible in their hand then they close the bible and then they just talk for uh two hours and it's and and some do have anointing but the expository preachers go line for line and for me it's like i come from entertainment i got so much sauce i don't need no sauce on the word i need the word to be solid food that i can understand exactly what god was saying to me through the king james version do this you know um through this translation or the english shannon version so pastor adams was coming by my spot uh i got this 300 acre spot in um calabasas uh that we had a little house in that i was recording and i would play this music these chords that i love they're almost like monk-like um and that's going to go into something we'll talk about later because i'm building a modest i'm building them a monastery that will then be the future of uh monasteries this like uh full sustainable energy now uh he says to me pastor adam says to me when i was thinking about should i rap or not he said my son just said you know i wish i want to hear yay rap do album about jesus a rap album about jesus and it was through the mouth of babes like this person i'm gonna listen to the kids bro you know i'm gonna listen to my daughter i'm gonna listen to kids before i listen to you know super programmed out adults and especially if that adult hasn't done something that i am looking to do right uh so it's so funny how people are so like free and almost arrogant with their advice and i'm just like why would i listen to you you don't even ask me for any advice i'm the most successful person i know so the um um so he said my son wants to hear a rap album from yay and that just that was that was the paradigm shift for me i used that word a lot i like that i like paradigm shift it's one of my favorite the and i i made this rap album and you know for a lot of people it was the first album that they could play with a certain production level in the house with their with their with their family now you know you could argue if the watch the throne production was stronger or better than uh jesus king production but when i go and i like i've been working with dr dre and some of the beats and just be like you know the hardest beats possible and it's something that was very spiritual and meditative about the mix on jesus king that it wasn't hitting as hard as jesus or hitting as hard as uh watch the throne it was like this is how god wanted me to make this uh make this sonic painting and the way he wanted me to communicate then so we did that album and then we did the jesus's born album which also i got that idea from pastor adams uh and i mean there's people who that's the only album they play and it's just bringing these gospel and i tell you like my formula for these hymns i'm writing because i'm writing the the songs that we're doing at uh sunday service is basically my book of hymns for the future gospel university that i'm creating where i've envisioned and will manifest a 200 000 seat stadium circular with a hundred thousand gospel singers and people will go to this university and they will train the way you know a russian olympic swimmer you know a picture like they would be in the pool six days a week at least if not seven days but for people who sing for the church or you know uh you know because it's it's it's a tide it's pro bonus all this like people don't practice that as much as we practice going to studio to rap or practice uh playing basketball if we're in the nba so it's making the nba sort of say uh the coliseum for god and what that have have you like heard like soccer chants and like and just like sixty thousand persons so i envisioned that for god a hundred thousand people sometimes singing in uh harmony sometimes in unison glory glory oh god almighty we lift our hands and give you praise glory glory oh god almighty we lift our hands and give you praise for picture a hundred thousand people in unison and that feeling what that would do for our spirits our souls it's healing there's natural forms of healing about our environment um the friends that we're around what we're wearing what we're eating our diet so donde is a design company that um that uh i formed around 10 years ago and some of the people that worked at donda are now have went on to become heads of fashion houses like uh virgil's the head of louis vuitton and he was the head of donda at a certain point another guy that worked at donda is now the head of givenchy so this is like the the talent pool and this donda is basically my version of like a cyber you know extension of my brain like here's something that i'm thinking of that you can't touch but we need to we need to bring it into fruition we need to manifest it and we have to see how to use things of our past and things of our now to create our future so it's a organization um created to guarantee the future of the human race really i thought about even calling it edna because i see us all as superheroes and aetna was the designer in the incredibles which is kind of almost really similar to donda i'm just seeing these lineups and stuff so um so now our focus is food clothing shelter communication education and transportation so at the school that i just created easy christian academy you know we call nasa we call different places about this hydroponic vertical growing uh garden and i remember sitting you know the idea of the garden is from a to z you have to be able to make your food right there fully sustainable right there on your land and you know there's a bunch of people like oh i made this salad right here it's like i'm not that good enough you still gotta go to the grocery store for eighty percent sixty percent of your stuff i remember this one you know um this one farmer we had you know he wanted to build this class for the kids and all this we're going to show the kids this thing people always make the kids version i don't like this the kids version thing like kids need to understand how what if the pandemic was you know they lost all their parents and it was lost the kids need to understand early how real life works so physics is one of the anchors of the school that i'm creating i remember you know i'm uh the city is all self-sustaining so it works off of our four main resources earth wind uh water and and fire and uh 90 of it is running off of water with like aqueducts like the city of masada and i was talking to this engineer um and saying i need the whole thing to run off of water and he said well we're gonna have to use solar power i said i don't and please you know don't take this as any offense i don't like solar panels i feel that they're part of still of what edison's idea was i don't feel like they're really in line with what nikolai tesla really wanted to do with alternative current i mean getting into the whole tesla and what edison did to take tesla down and the fact the world would probably be free by now if ted if tesla wasn't basically destroyed by the media that edison controlled in the propaganda that edison control so i'm i'm talking to my engineer and saying this needs to run completely with water and i don't want to use uh a solar anyway and he says no i'm saying we're going to use a mirror and it's going to connect to a steam uh engine and that's going to push the water back up and i was like after like screaming at the guy i was like look if i had known physics i wouldn't have been screaming at my engineer so if we think about what we're learning in school to learn physics to learn farming i was uh i was talking to um a friend of mine that's a uh a rapper and super uh super uh god following spiritual super smart and i was showing her the um uh uh some of the designs for uh the monasteries and some of the designs for the fully sustainable communities all the same thing and then it said bioengineering on it and she said what do you she it's like for her bioengineering has a negative connotation and my response was isn't like farming and cooking like bioengineering at the at the simplest form like we went to going from like grabbing apples off of a tree to oh we put this boom in the ground oh and we could grow this and we could grow this you know we could grow this harvest right here so it's you know i want to just sim simplify and round up the the principle behind uh the donda way of thinking is we've got all this information and all this you know these science scientific um uh exploration these things that tesla never completed these things that da vinci never completed and we can look at all of these things and see how do we create the most primitive versions of this to create a fully sustainable ecosystem which is you know what covet actually helped us to you know get closer to our families get closer to our children uh understand like oh wow that you know that was mapped out for us to be 50 minutes away from our home and our kids school to be 30 minutes away and to put us in traffic for that amount of time and these cities have been designed to promote industry and just to make more money they haven't been designed to promote happiness so we're at this paradigm shift in our existence you know it was when muhammad hit the market i think that's who it was and brought money because before it was slave and trade and this is something you know dishonorable men honor money i got this bar from dave chappelle i'm not trying to like steal his bar uh and you know we as human beings this this race on earth have like been honoring money and you know money isn't it's not even real you know it's not even backed by anything i don't want to like go too far into that but when you unprogram yourself you see that there's other forms of currency now like relationships are a more important currency than money itself and that's what we really saw it's like the end of the movie that our existence would be pre-coveted post covet and so as the titanic is crashing and sinking and rome is falling there's got to be this new civilization like the end of tron where everything starts to light up and it's been under this like dark cloud so you know god is using me and he has a calling you know in my life to make the world better for all people like people say there's bad people there's good people no there's there's there's people that are possessed that have demonic ways but we were all children at one time they say some people no they were born bad you got to remember like say oh there's bad people even even the devil's an angel a fallen angel a lost angel like los angeles if you think let me but that's the city of angels let me let me let me start from the beginning so you you essentially deconstruct things so when you say in in many ways when you're describing yourself as a visionary this is what i'm saying is you're looking at all the systems that are in place whether it's the record industry um the contracts that are wrong with artists the way civilization is set up i think visionaries too glossy and too saucy of a title okay whatever you're deconstructing all of these things and you find flaws in the systems so all these systems whether it's the the music industry system whether it's the political system whether it's the the system of gathering food whether even a religious system like i remember when you started doing your sunday service and my friend was like what is he doing i go he's making going to church cool again like you don't think that's look at all these people having a great time you've thousands of people that are chanting and singing along like he's not asking for anything i go look if anybody should be doing something like that it's him i go because he's making great music everybody's having a good time and what do you get out of that the best thing that people ever get out of church is sense of community a time where you get together and you all agree this is where you're going to concentrate on good you're going to concentrate on goodness you're going to concentrate on on and trying to find these shared values that are going to help the community now you're doing this in this mass form you got the superstar musician who's doing this in this mass form with thousands and thousands of people in these gigantic areas like that's nothing but positive so you deconstructed the idea of how how to do a religious service but make it cool and now you're thinking about deconstructing all these different things you're thinking about deconstructing how how food is harvested you're thinking about deconstructing how we make energy you're literally trying to deconstruct and and reimagine the idea of civilization yeah exactly so talk me through how this starts with you have you were you always religious your whole life yes i was and then i you know then i hit high school so but you you know when you're a young man and you're you know you're a superstar musician and you know you're living a wild life what what was it that led you back to this just a feeling in your life that there was more to life there was more to your position there was more to you know this idea of a calling that you felt like you could do more and that it it resonated with you more to to to produce these sunday services and to to start thinking of of life in this way like you can improve things yeah god knocked me off my horse god like literally called me and said okay now i need you i need you right now i need i mean not that god needs needs me we need god but he called me to serve him and i was tired of serving the music industry to start tired of serving you know filling up stadiums uh you know when the last concert last tour i did we had a floating stage and uh and actually it was a hanging stage but it looked like it was floating and that's just another thing that's illusion where we need to dispel the illusion i wouldn't even call it the floating stage today but the whole thing about is people used to say how i would lose money on tours because i would put so much into the creative and i and i was like wanted to prove but prove to who you know prove to man prove to greedy people you know that i could make more than anybody and that's like the gladiator position that all artists are put into like we're in the middle of this coliseum let me show you i can kill more lions and tigers and bears and people and blah blah than any other gladiators that happen so that's what i'm that's what i was doing and then i remember talking to james terrell and i was like at the top of my lungs like screaming about saving uh saving ourselves and humanity and the reason why me and james needed to uh connect and then i went to uh my show and then it's like my like this like my head popped back and the spirit jumped out and it felt like it was like my mom talking and the last thing i said was this thing is over and i'm saying it like i sound like my mom like donda like that's something she would have said if she was in the physical form when she sees her son you know exhausted like i just went through uh uh i had this uh fashion show we had this fashion show where we took over msg and just broke all boundaries sold 20 000 16 000 seats and played the new album and uh it was you know a thousand black people in the show and yeah like all young thug plugging in the iphone and uh travis and cuddy dancing he had 50 cent there jay-z there lamar odom the uh the first time that people you know saw him and walk again uh was we walked together into the into the stadium uh and he's camo yeezy jacket all head to toe and the reason why that was so important is like when he was in a coma i would come by and play him the new music and once he was out of the coma he said that he remembered that music when he was in a coma and that was the album i was playing that day so that's the reason why me and lamar uh walked in together and then the next a few months later i did a fashion show and it started 45 minutes late and the media they just killed me they lebrond me as i would say like when lebron went to uh to um uh miami and they said you know who are you to have a a choice you know like what uh one of my other heroes tom brady he he left i didn't see no jerseys getting burned like when lebron uh left so then less than a week after that my wife is robbed in paris and so we we just because i'm i'm in the middle of a tour while i'm doing the fashion show while i'm doing this so we cancel the tour because it's it's very you know traumatic and then you know we start the tour back up and we get back into it and then i i just keep on saying i want to go to japan i just want to go to japan because japan is like a way that people treat there isn't like the systemic racism embedded in every single individual that's inside of the place like in america uh black white anything there's a systemic uh white white supremacy like when i tag you know white supremacy or we say this it's like the um yes that is america that is the world currently we've been taught that my first superhero was superman you know and my dad was a black panther but you know when disney makes black panther now when you look it up you don't see my dad protecting his neighborhood or snatching a mic out of somebody's hand while they're lying i don't know you know like father like son right there uh but you see this character that's made for black people to idolize that was designed by a white white person and put out by a white company so it's controlling the narrative to say we're going to show you harriet tubman we're not going to show you not turner and they do it every chance they get maleficent uh um they called her her race of people the moors and the moors are and i just saw it again i was just like yo if you erase our history like most black people we don't know or we come we think we came from slaves we don't know our bloodline and we're we're given black history month and we take that like it's some gift to us no it's a programming to us racism doesn't end until we get to a point where we stop having to put the word black in front of it because it's like we're we're putting the rim a little bit lower for ourselves like it's when i say i'm the second wealthiest black man in america like why do i have to say that because you know obviously if we just go on wealth period of what we call wealth like financial wealth that score card you know i'd be like i'm the i'm the 78th wealthiest man in america but we shouldn't have to have a special box a special month because also what they show in black black history month is us getting hosed down reminding us that we were slaves like what if we had remember when i cheated on you month like remember when you first found the found the text messages remember how does that make you feel it makes you feel depleted and defeated you know it's no matter what religion you are what we can agree on is it is always now but now is the shortest moment of our life it's gone in an instant the longest moments of our life are our memories and our imaginations think about how long a kid imagines christmas before i mean versus how long christmas really is and when you think back to your christmas are you under the table like jim carrey and eternal sunshine with a spotless mind like under a chair or are you a giant are you a king are you what blac what what black history month has told you you are and this is me speaking to uh you know black people specifically in america that you know i know people who would you know kill someone in uh or have a gunner you know in in their own hood and be afraid to go downtown and literally be like afraid of white people like the most gangster gang of gangsters wouldn't go downtown and that's just a programming but that program is inside of the curriculum it's an instant side of the media it and it and it goes to this whole idea of yay when people say is jay crazy is a a narcissistic is a uh egomaniac is yay self-absorbed of jay all these no yay know who yay is i know who i am and i'm not fin i'm not fit to bow to uh to an idea that you want to have of me i am going to be the full idea that god has of me and when i do things that are that god don't like i'm i'm i'm i'm being the lesser version of me this is where i you know in my weakness god becomes strong i have to be the higher me when when people are downing me it's not like me fighting fire with fire me attacking or as you say like you know stooping to uh stooping to that level it's like the devil will use you against you you become your own uh you become your own worst enemy and i just went on a riff right there but the thing is these isn't that what you do though like yeah yeah one of the things that i when anybody ever talks about you to me they they they say well he's all over the place and i say i think that he's got a different power source like if you look at the way everybody interfaces with the world if there's a universal power most people have like a 20 watt charger the way i describe you i say i think that [ __ ] got like 150 watt charger and these ideas are just coming at them so you do go on these rants that sometimes need to be dissected into individual things but overall you're incredibly productive so my question is why do you why do people think there's something wrong with you yeah this is but legitimately like you've been medicated they've they've put you away right they've brought to you how did that happen well i'll say these two things i think uh very three-dimensionally i don't think in the black and white lines that i've been programmed to think in and i and i think in full color so when i talk i have to describe a thought in five ways you know we we enjoy food that has multiple seasoning in it we enjoy music that has multiple instruments so when i talk it's not a rant it's a symphony of ideas and when you collect them you say oh these are all these things that connect yeah you know i i i just tell the truth and telling the truth is crazy in a world full of lies that's simply it but none of the things you're saying are crazy another things you said are crazy it's fascinating the way you think because i can see that you're thinking in all these different layers and you're looking at things from all these different perspectives and they all come together out of your mouth in like a tornado of ideas now if someone wants to just have a conversation with you back and forth i could see whether you go this guy's crazy just doesn't stop he's ranting but what i'm seeing is just you're a very thorough thinker you're thinking at things independently but you're thinking of things in a massive perspective now who convinced you that that's bad is it have you always been this way or were you less is it was it less manageable before did you have issues with it before yeah i believe before i found christ and gave my life to god i would try to lean on my own understanding and that's the universe is like a black hole of information what do you mean by your own understanding meaning when people ask einstein said you're the smartest person what would you like to know he his einstein's response was i'd like to understand the mind of god meaning meaning god is all-knowing and we can only know or see and for me as a visionary we can only know or see what god allows us to see and what he feels we're ready to see and understand to to maximize what our mass laws hierarchy and e chart is you know what sets our dopa means what sets our serotonins off what makes us feel good basically like you know we we did a good deed and it's like it was somehow where you know you know just doing a beat for a famous per or just doing a beat for um a local dope rapper really meant a lot to me when i was 14 years old doing a beat for just anyone famous that had a major record deal was a lot to me at age 19. me being able to you know put out my own music and put my own i was a lot to me at age 24 meaning as i grow god sets new stages in the game of life for me that you get your satisfaction like maslow's hierarchy of need is like our satisfaction chart what makes us feel whole and uh accomplished as a as a as a human being so as i go through these different levels there's times where i would use confidence when i knew what i was doing and i would use arrogance when i didn't know what i was doing but i'd rather use arrogance than to let someone diminish my idea of myself because that is what keeps us going hope actually keeps us alive anybody you ask most people is like do you want tomorrow to come and they say yes they have they have hope for it but i went from having confidence and arrogance to having faith and faith is the opposite of fear and that created this fearless approach that i have and that's what made now has made me the fearless leader that i am that i've like crystallized into the leader that my mom always knew i would be when kids followed me in preschool the leader that people saw when we changed the sound of music the leader when we changed uh the the sneaker industry the leader and what we're doing with uh with farming and with with shelters when i was building you know the homeless shelters uh a couple years ago and visiting parks and and then going to skip row and understanding the uh uh the dynamics and empathizing with what actual mental health issues are not someone you know telling their truth or being exhausted and then being labeled as such like i am so that's what you felt happened to you like you were absolutely truth and you were exhausted and they labeled you as mentally unhealthy yes absolutely am i saying this right that what happened with you is you feel like maybe or you probably feel like that having this higher calling and recognizing this higher power was the the glue that kept your thoughts together they kept your mind straight and it kept you on a righteous path so instead of being scattered with all these crazy thoughts and being exhausted and being labeled manic right like we talked before and you were saying that they had you on medication but the medication [ __ ] with your creativity it [ __ ] with all kinds of things or it blocked my ability to channel what god wanted me to do but we're all we're all on medication right now did you use toothpaste with fluoride today it blocks your pineal gland and they put children on it and we put we put our kids on it you know we it's inside the the deodorants that we use is all these things to create like a disconnect to god to serve that it's like are you serving man are you serving the the one and only master but what did they tell you when when they said that they were going to put you on medication what do they put you on and what did they tell you one of my favorite things that they did is they put me on this medication that made me uh gain a lot of weight and i said i'm not gonna take this and they said okay we got a medication you could take but you won't gain weight and this shows you they were trying to kill a superhero slowly trying to kill genius trying to make me not feel like i could run for president make me not feel like i can go uh be born in atlanta grow up on the south side of chicago go into music go and win all these grammys change the sound of music and the look of stage performances all that and then still end up in 53 million dollars in debt what music industry has people going to the exact debt of the house that they think they're gonna buy after the tour is over and it's and it's it's strategized there's criminals all over everyone's almost accounts in the music industry it's not a safe place it's a it's a treacherous place so filled with money soon as things are filled with money they're filled with people that are trying to take advantage of other people it's filled with money bees come to honey exactly exactly so they put they put you on this ship because you were exhausted what did they put you on um um you know i'm i can i can research i'm actually forgetting the exact medication that they had um but what did it do uh you the main thing that it did is it destroyed my confidence it made me this shell of who i really am it like grayed over my eyes it it it made me it made the mustang that buck anymore hmm they sedated you yes yeah and they what was the the thought process behind it when you talked to a doctor about this what did they tell you was wrong with you uh they they told me i was bipolar and i remember going on tmz and saying you know slavery is a choice and they medicated me for saying that for having that opinion and saying it out loud but as i put those contracts up i'm saying this is a choice as i you know you didn't mean people being abducted and brought into slavery and put into chains was a choice what you were talking about is people making decisions that would enslave them financially and enslave their life yeah it was taken out of context and it was taken in the least charitable way and they decided to try to say look at crazy kanye look at this [ __ ] he's saying and then they medicate you yes and the media has always taken anything out of context that isn't a part of the overall narrative yeah that because there's you know like hollywood and media has controlled so much of the narrative and then he had silicon valley and that's what's so beautiful about one of my heroes steve jobs because there wouldn't be a silicon valley or the silicon valley wouldn't be what it is today if steve jobs didn't make information accessible like this which is still a bit controlled but it feels like twitter is the the safest fleet freest uh mass platform to communicate on and you know it's like they mess with jack because of that you know you know well it's it's still censored there's a lot of issues now but i think that's internal i think that's people that are working there that are woke that want to stop people from saying certain things and there's a lot of struggles with that today and i it's unfortunate because i i do agree that it's an unbelievable way to get ideas out there yeah so but it's also it's a new thing and it's mismanaged by the people that use it often they don't know what they're doing or why they're doing it every version of anything that man has made will be flawed sure and it has to go through a bunch of different steps of evolution it has to it has to evolve and change so why did you agree to let them do this to you why did you agree to let them medicate you because if that is that look i'm crazy for sure but if someone came to me and go hey we're going to put you on some medication that medication is going to calm you down i'd be like everything i do is because i'm not calm everything that i've ever done that's made me successful is because i have more energy it's because i i have a wildness like i'm not calming that down like i know how to calm myself down i can self-medicate with exercise and meditation and marijuana and a bunch of different things but i'm not gonna i'm not gonna take some medication that removes anything that's unique with you and all these wild ideas that come to your head like very few people could string together these thoughts the way you're describing them today if somebody asked me if there's anything wrong with him he's [ __ ] he's filled with awesome like what's what's wrong with that if you can keep that together what you just did the way you just described reimagining civilization reimagining church reimagining the food supplies there's nothing bad about that this is all very interesting and very good like i would never say that's bad but are you this way all the time or is there good versions of kanye and versions of kanye where you don't feel like you have a grip on these thoughts you know what i love is there was uh some perspectives that people showed about what a true manic episode really looks like after i was in south carolina and this one guy was talking about his mom being in an episode and kidnapping his brother and you know like proper extreme cases you know i cried and was gut wrenched like at the i don't even like to say out loud what i s what i said on south carolina but the idea of you know i'm just trying to word it in a way that's really safe and covers my family um people saw this clip of me crying some people didn't know what i was crying about but i was crying about that there was a a possible chance you know i'm just i'm looking at a way to say this that there was a chance that you know that we didn't make that kim and i didn't make the family we have today that's much that's my most like uh family friendly you know way to word that and just the idea of it just tears me up inside that i was a part of a culture that promotes this kind of thing like one of the uh major statistics on the subject of life is um that the greatest advocates for um the a the a word is are men from ages 31 to 37 and that's how old i was and i felt like i was too busy my dad felt like he was too busy for me and we have a culture of that and they have a child rebel soldiers that were in africa that would be doped up and psyched out and made to kill their parents were well in our culture we're doped up and psyched out and made to kill our children you know we have to decouple the conversation of uh planned parenthood and woman's choice now so of course i'm christian so i'm pro-life um and when i go into office i'm not changing laws because i realize we live in an imperfect world in an imperfect society what i will be presenting is a plan a and we've already started to work on plan a to change the connotation of orphanages to change the connotation of foster care and not just change the connotation you know verbally but to create places that are to the level of like the amman geary and disney world how to had a kid you know what is this like and we have so much land that this can be created and then spread across the world to orphanages in africa and in china and just um uh across the globe to to create these environments that when there's expecting families moms and fathers that they feel like there's a place even if they don't feel well off enough to bring another life into this world that there's a place to go there's a plan a because plan b and planned parenthood were planned by a eugenics that set out and said out loud i'm doing this to kill the black race and to create population control you know if we what are you saying plan b mean the pill meaning the the morning-after pill you know what let me planned parenthood let me let me let me decouple those things let me let me talk about planned parenthood okay there's the last figure i saw is there were 210 000 deaths due to covet in america and everywhere you go you see someone with a mask on with a the a word a culture i'll say it one time with abortion culture there are 1 000 black children aborted a day daily we are in genocide we so more black children have died in the past since february than people have died of covet and everyone wears a mask so it's a matter of where are we turning a blind's eye to like the media can control a lot of times it has to control what we care about i even heard somebody say at one point this is the actual sentence i heard someone say puerto rico so played out meaning there was a time where people were caring about it and now the media says don't care about it but these people it still hasn't been solved the the hurricane's still hit the earthquakes still hidden people are still suffering from that and no one has really gone to fix it and when that 11 billion goes to haiti and it doesn't get to the people you know the daily mail post a a swimsuit pick or something and uh deters our energy to what we have to do collectively to to to to help our brothers and sisters you know i look at society as as one body i want to just go into this rift because my thoughts are like these clouds and mario brothers and i'll jump to this and i'll see another one i'll jump to another and say oh yes i jump to another i need to express this uh this story i believe that you know love will heal all and we have to look at i believe i believe that world peace is possible and i believe it's us looking at each other as a moment in time time is love you love the things you put time into that's where i'm in time is love like because this is like uh this intangible thing this thing you can't grab you can't just grab time in your hand you can't grab love in your hand but but we feel both of these things are real for us to love one another just as simple as that like love will heal the world this is what it's gonna take to heal the world but we have a competitive spirit we like having a bad guy we like having a competitor so what we need to do is change the bad guy change the competitor make the competitor be the roman era the roman civilization make the uh competitive be the egyptian kingdom and say we are the first society we're the first civilization that ever became civil because we are still just as much in the dark ages as medieval times or as game of thrones you know level uh black mirror level i i know i went past future other dimension for a second but we kill each other we kill each other on social media we kill each other in high schools like in the way with that we talk to each other we we physically kill each other in our own neighborhoods and outside of neighborhoods you know this planet when we when we keep turning a blind's eye to our brothers and our sisters and our family which is us as a whole as all of humanity then of course it's going to get to the point where there's you know homeless sleeping under you know a um a bridge in calabasas because we ignored the homeless person sleeping in front of the gucci store how do you how does just look at that visual it's a homeless person sleeping in front of the gucci store we have builders we have people who know how to make communities we have people who know how to cook and how to make food and how to um how to bring this food people are fighting over land and not really realizing that we're not uh we're not maximizing our resources and our existence we've got genius level scientists we've got people who rogue uh you know people who have uh broken out of the chains like elon like imagine if elon was working at gm on the third floor somewhere you know we wouldn't have electric cars we wouldn't have that new porsche hybrid we wouldn't have uh uh what what's happening with you know hyperloop imagine if the guy that uh you know started airbnb uh uh was shut down or the guys who started uber were shut down all of these people who break away and then create the new society and the next frontier where we're going people like i've said like it feels to me like mit is a place that has to be funded by people who want to take the smartest people on the planet and make them work on the smallest things that won't change anything and i've talked to people from mit and i could look at these brill like this brilliant person i was talking from mit and he was he was afraid everything was fear everything was about his his girlfriend's pregnant and you know we just got a house and i don't want to do anything to change this and i and this is like one of the most brilliant people on the planet but if you mix brilliance with bravery that we can ignite something even this conversation alone can ignite the people that are going to change the world because there's people who have been anointed you can't teach the brilliance and the anointings there's people who hit the game of life and they've got something that they're going to do no matter what school they go to they know they just know how to do it they knew how to do it before they got here and they were going to do it and these people just need to see what it looks like to overcome the smoke screens of public humiliation of bankruptcy i was in debt uh the fear loss i lost my mom or the fear of death you know what other fears uh are there there's a lot of fears but the thing is when you remove like even in the schools you remove prayer you remove god you remove the fear of god you create the possibility of the fear of everything else but watch this if you instill the fear of god you eliminate the fear of anything else and it's not that i am fearless i am definitely literally definitely shaking and in so much fear of my father i fear god and i don't fear nothing else there's some power to that right like it just has a mental management tool there's some real power to that because so many people are afraid of every single little aspect of life bills and debt and love and relationships and if you have a higher power and this is one of the things that i've always wanted to make what's the main word that you use even for fear this is the main disease that that people use in politics it's the main fear is it but it's a main word it's the disease attacking the world because it it it destroys your it changes your posture it changes your idea it's worry yeah worry yeah anxiety that's right that's what it is stress like it can kill you you can't be free you can't be free to take chances to be worried about stuff like an honest yeah so to be able to anchor and eliminate worry and say this i am walking in a righteous path and i don't have to worry about anything i don't have to worry about going to jail i have to worry about being killed i don't have to worry about bankruptcy i don't have to worry about um you know uh humiliation you know because this comes this is where smart alec prayers can get you i used to have this really smart outlet prayer i said god deliver me from pain and then he took my mom so it's hard to hurt that much ever again and create it almost like a character like deadpool i'm like deadpool for god like there's no noise there's no human noise that can and you know someone tried to like there was there was a friend of mine that did like a really bad move where he tried to say i was using this this this lawyer and i was about to work with him and he said the lawyer said he wouldn't work with you until you get my contract done and i was just like having do you not know me at all i'll be the type to cut off my if my hands are like this i'll cut off my own hand i come back in the room they'd be like yo what you doing here i thought we tied you up i'm like and then i go just make like a luke skywalker you know you know han and this is one thing i want to say like and it's about to make me mad right here the first time you see me get mad in the interview they said that george lucas's prequels are worse than the corporate made disney star wars i'll get mad at that too like that's [ __ ] ridiculous revenge of the sif we saw how darth vader was made yeah like i watched that like 10 times doing covet like don't jump anakin i got the high ground those early movies were pure they were pure no no i'm saying even the prequels are better than anything that and i'm sorry disney star wars design team i know you're gonna like put my face up in the you know office and be like forget no man this is george this is his baby that thing was set in his heart to show us his children the hero's journey you know and these these like how can we running back and replay like even at disney you know there's there's people you know at a pixar that have left people have left you know where um uh they call i've forgot the exact title but saying like every time is a new idea they call it like an unproven idea so they'll get to toy story 800 000 and frozen trillion before there's a new concept uh to take a chance on yeah to take a chance yeah and we've been we've been programmed like when you see the you know the homes the style of homes that i've been developing they're far closer to the way the galaxy looks the way water looks the way our makeup in our body feels uh we've been uh we've been put into these boxes and that was you know due to money they do the construction that we have to be in these these boxes and we've been stuck in a loop like on uh westworld and something i feel like tandy newton on westworld where she had to use the people that enslaved her that trapped her to make it to make it out you know the uh and it's funny when i like the box and when i'm talking about farming i had a point about farming that i didn't finish earlier i hired this guy to do the a to z concept i made it plain as day make it so everything we cook in the kitchen at the school we plant it here and they would just do it to 70 percent they'd do it to 60 percent earlier when i had that point i went to this whole riff about children needing to learn physics and children needing to learn how to really do things and not having this separated thing like we are programmed to lock ourselves in a box and what's amazing right now is the opportunity and the platform that we have that the world is hurting for everyone for those that are in power for those that are inside the program even those that are in power are still a part of the program and you know i read this uh this tweet that someone said i finished watching netflix what's next and that's so true that we can't even program enough to satisfy ourselves the program is done forrest gump has stopped running and just turned around it's like all of this thing is a setup the the the the concerts that musicians go to where we don't you know we're not thinking about the fact that we're not getting the lion's share of our masters because we're making the money on tour and then tour has girls and tour has the the the the arena singing your song and i need you right now did you do good champ you know like uh with floyd mayweather um is is such a hero of mine and so excellent because he is a a champion right but then also he wasn't afraid to say i do my deals i make my money and what i like is you know he didn't let the the older system tell him how to spend his money or how to show his money it was up to him because he's the he's his own king you know god is the king of us all but he's his own king and a lot of times in america we haven't seen we haven't seen kings we haven't seen the the the the royal blood in our bone marrow and the way it comes through now we can show it in and rap and the way we put our chains on the way we dress we can show them the way we play ball and things like that but it's another frontier to being to being a king well there's also something where you feel diminished in the fact that you know that your money is being stolen by people that don't deserve it so if you have some record executives if you have some people that you know have looped you into a [ __ ] up deal and they're making millions while you're making thousands that [ __ ] with your head yeah it just does it makes you worry makes you stress gives you exactly anxiety did he touch you it could drive you crazy yeah it could drive you crazy yeah yeah so i still don't understand how they talked you into medication man i wish i knew you better back then because uh i would have just had you exercise i would idea i would say so what whatever he's doing you can't do like you have to understand that different people have different amounts of energy they have you you have this ability to to have these like really all-encompassing thoughts where you have these long trains of ideas and thoughts in your head and you're implementing them this is all good this is this is a powerful thing i don't think it's a negative thing at all i mean some of it comes to you know i'm dealing with issues that are not just you know black and racial issues i'm dealing with uh maverick you know innovator issues yeah i'm dealing with you know just as many uh you know issues where there's walls of you know invisible walls and invisible chains as you know michael jackson dealt with as a black musician or urban musician where he had to go and um urban he came with thriller he's like let me go get this person who directed which is the eastwick to i'm gonna get a movie director and he changed you know uh movies forever i'm dealing with some um some walls that you know people have done to hold back uh agents of change throughout history you know it's like the movie is here like this part you know us talking right now may be a scene from my life's movie uh like tesla was you know a a white guy that was a ladies man and he would be going to all the like fancy events and everything and like he stopped having sex at age 40. yeah and said you know i'm going to focus on it and and i mean he died he died penniless at the end you know i'm not gonna say like he turned evil but he's trying to sell a bomb and he had all these like answers uh that would change the construct of society and like my best example is like kodak is there in a place where they can barely pull it together now but they invented the digital camera and they didn't bring it to market because um because um they had all this film to sell well one of the things that's really you know that's a challenge for me is you know i've i designed this thing this we call it the foam runner and we built a factory for it and cody and you can make these uh in 25 minutes and what i'm saying about design i was talking to one of the just awesome designers that we just uh uh got over yeezy we got like this amazing crew we got guys that nike sued us for and one of these guys i was trying to hire him for two years he had to he had an encounter he had to go surf for a year and now he's in and when he like you know does is um is a cad drawings it's almost like one shot one kill you know sometimes you design stuff you got to do it like five eight times like his first one is so close to being ready to go to market because he sketches in a certain kind of way and for the longest we said you know let's um uh i've been saying i want to get rid of laces and we still have shoes we sell with laces because it's a popular shoe and people love this shoe and it it hurts me i feel like steve jobs trying to like remove buttons off the side of the next apple and one of the things that's interesting about this if you look at most sneakers if you look at you guys sneakers right now you have a tongue you know and it it goes this direction this is one of the innovations about this is one reason why this is one of the most important sneaker designs is this goes this way because it's ergonomic and i remember putting it on and being uncomfortable with wearing it because i'm so used to like the way like a jordan or something fits with my jeans and i remember talking to kobe and him talking about having to make sneakers that fit with jeans and that was a big thing because you know that's what we grow up we go you know coconut jeans and jordans or something like that so um this also i feel that just the process when i design i become like a three-year-old i have to go to my gut i have to forget everything i know and really focus in to what i feel like some straight jedi yoda or like you know if i could grab that water bottle like like wouldn't it have been cool if i just did it right now i should have had a magnet on there that you feel like he'd be like yo this dude's a wizard um so so so for me you know i i'm gonna make this shoe be twenty dollars and you know money isn't real so that means the world should be eventually free so i'm gonna manifest the world being free my dad he lives in a dr and he says you know anything that you put in the ground grows so why do people still go hungry and i like that in theory but i was like man farming is really hard though man i think you know i might go hungry if i have someone to farm this food it's like but you know back in the days we we had that skill set now we're losing these skill sets that actually we can sustain off of uh so with this uh and i i love giving you guys my riffs i'm like a human version of instagram when you look at instagram you look at you know you're looking like a hundred images a day uh well i've got millions of images in my mind and the majority of them haven't been realized yet you know there's some images that are from my memory but i got this whole the future that's in my mind that has to be brought so this is you know you talk about hype culture and shoes being sold on the you know the resale market and yeezy lives in that place but i i you know i don't like the idea i don't love the idea that some of the reason why people buy it is just uh for hype culture or you ain't got this or i got this colorway and you don't have it that type of mentality i mean it's i'm an essentialist i'm a i'm a minimalist and like i i i have to i will bring the the fully a to z our existence version to existence like victor gruen designed the shopping centers but he designed full utopian communities and people were like oh we're just cool with the shopping center that's all we want and these ideas that he had never got brought into fruition a little bit like disney kind of based epcot center on like on victor gruen but these this next frontier of these communities and villages of happiness are way closer to a kenyan village than it is to like a gated community uh village but one of the things about your this aversion to hype culture one of the good things about the hype culture is if people get into your products they're going to get into you and they're going to get into your ideas and all these ideas that you have will become a part of their thought process they'll start thinking about it they go hey he's got some great points if people really get into your [ __ ] they're also really going to get into your ideas i think it's one of the things that make people uncomfortable about you is you have the courage to have all these bold ideas and to implement them and to do all these different things that bothers people and there's a lot of people that don't have that kind of courage and they are straddled down by anxiety and they see a guy like you and they like try to find flaws they try to find things that are wrong with it instead of looking at the positive aspects of it they'll only concentrate on the negative aspects of it i don't think i don't see it that way i've never saw it that way i look you look at that guy [ __ ] do anything there's people like tesla and there's people who you know there's a person who killed animals with tesla cords to make people not like tesla yeah the personal citizen yeah person who made the electric chair be made with the tesla courts for so people wouldn't like tesla tesla still has inventions that haven't been brought to our society that would have brought more simplicity and happiness to our society like the westinghouse ability to transmit electricity through the air which is fascinating i don't know if that would have worked in today's world with cell phones and all the different electronics and even you know modern air travel i don't know i don't know what it would have worked but things would have been different people are over designing into industries where they see they can make some money as opposed to stepping back and saying how do we look at the entire earth as an opportunity to free everyone and create happiness for for everyone so like only a b there's only a billion people on the internet you never think about that there's seven to eight billion people on the on earth but then there's only a billion people that are influenced and that are on the internet we feel like the internet is everything it's only like 15 you know 16 18 of human beings but in order to make for our civilization for us to survive we have to make more human beings we have we have family we have we have to have food we have to have shelter that we don't have to have the internet we don't have to have music we don't have to have you know that's a conversation i mean i mean i mean it enhances life yeah it enhances the quality of life is better but look at the music look look at look at what the information where we're we're uh we're putting in it like i feel bad when i hear uh rap songs i feel bad even the stuff that you know i just recently put out i was like you know how you listen to lames they the imitation man like why is that's just i don't like that message because we're all the imitation of our parents and imitation of this invitation and then imitation of adam and eve you know we're and we're uh we're all the next versions there should be the v2 v3 v4 like you know michelangelo and da vinci had the same teacher you know there's times where you know my like uh people work with me or just say like my mentees or whatever will go out and they'll do something uh that i wanted to do and then i'm i'm torn because as a man you know i'm i'm i'm jealous and i'm proud at the same time and it's like a father-son relationship because sometimes when the when the sun goes out and is more successful at things the father wants to say that's a good job but every time the son does something that's a good job it reminds the father of his failures yes so it's just i mean it's a it's a it's a it's a strong dynamic that that's where i have to lean on god to not be like you know this uh this like uh prick that's jealous of you know people who are innovating or taking you know the the goal line because we got to realize we're in a relay race of humanity at a certain point whoever you know what what what the inventors in the in the past did is now handed over to the inventors today they're handed over to the next vendors well the good thing about the walls and the perception and all that is this like smaller barrier to entry allows there to be you know a walt disney and a steve jobs and a henry ford so what i'm doing right now there's a there's a there's a real barrier to entry to doing constructing homes and communities and farms like you can't you can't just do it like how you can just you know it's hard for someone to go from i'm not saying it can't happen i'm just saying that it's difficult for someone to go from you know programming and putting their music out on the internet today to what it was that michael jackson had to do that very entry was so hard for him that i mean since he this guy was the leader of the jackson five when he was five like his entire life led up and this is what he focused on and it made and it was all focused on that so it made the great michael jackson now i want to do this comparison of disney uh steve and uh uh henry ford and what yeezy is it's really hard to make houses it's a it's like a corrupt uh industry also you got contra how many times have you started on a house and uh contractors like start over charging for stuff and the budget ends up being twice the amount and it's twice as long look if you had a relationship that's why relationships are a better currency than uh than um than money if you had a relationship with the contractors if you were part of their family your house would be done quick i feel like it's a practical joke on rich people how long houses take to build i was in the airport and there was a first class line that was super slow and there was a coach area with like eight openings and there was no one in it and then i hopped out and this other gentleman hopped out with me and went through that line and we went through but the rich people with the hermes belts didn't want to lose their position so bad that they would rather wait in the first class line than to have the time back and go through that now this gentleman is a surgeon that works on people's hearts through their feet so it's like that kind of engineer serger doctor mentality he's like yeah i got money because this this is what i'm doing but i'm here to serve and i have a mentality that i'm not better than the person that's in coach which is the reason why we were the only two that went through uh that how do you segue off of this when i just go into this like how do you even find a question what are you thinking over there right now there's no goodness yeah yeah there's no reason to worry about it yeah you you have this thought do you have a rigid process that you organize your day with like how do you you you seem to have so many different thoughts and so many different things going on simultaneously like how do you how do you organize your day do you have like ritual do you have yes i uh drive my children to school i drive my kids to school and i stay at school with them all day and you know i'm in the kitchen like uh working with the top chefs on the planet to create this you know these healthy menus and i'm working with the farmer so the school that i'm at is also um it's like this new i don't wanna no disrespect to nasa i was gonna say new nasa but um of humanity that we're anchoring it around uh our children so that's what my day consists of but then i also uh in the past couple months have been going to atlanta for two days a week or three days a week uh because i'm building this uh 120 000 uh oh i'm not supposed to say that i'm building we're building a sound stage but um and but it was funny because i go back and forth on content should i work in content should i work in tech i have all these like website ideas and tech ideas and i sometimes i was like i'll say i'm cursed by tech like i'm not you know i don't have any curses um or god has lets me break the curses and break the chains i rather say i i don't know if content is my calling like messaging like let me show you what a school of the future looks like let me show you a monasteries of the future let me show you the farms of the future look like but we're 20 years past the future like it's in 2020 like we're supposed to be in the future by 2000 so it's my job to pull the future into now and that's something i struggle with when i talk about the different things that i'm doing getting into the idea of doing like content for netflix or content for hulu and like what that content because i believe we're in the movie i believe we're in the game we're in like grand theft auto it's just too many things that align and we're not we can terraform what we can do is be like if your grand theft auto character just started redesigning the world himself like painting his own his own world we have this opportunity to make life as fun as these second lives but if you look at how politics just general unhappiness misery control the speed that contractors go the farmers that wouldn't finish the farm the way we are with each other is why people feel like look everyone's going to go into like this ready player one second life and i believe that our first life can be just as a imaginative uh and it will be so that's my and i have a bunch of friends that work in the gaming industry and i have friends that work in the content industry and i'm saying i'm anchoring on real life to make real life as awesome as games to make real life as awesome as uh movies so did i answer the question of my schedule every day yeah but i mean you so you just basically go on what you feel like working on you you basically just start your day you you do your stuff with your kids and then whatever these ideas you have you just nourish them you just encourage them you just you just feed whatever thoughts are in your head well yeah but what i was expressing on that on that last um symphony i gave you was uh this uh was um that i do have this challenge that's where i'm designing i'm just i'm actually designing what i'm doing with my time saying should i be even taking a meeting like when i take a meeting this i know if it's a good or bad meeting if someone's talking to me and i just get sleepy i know that that's not what i should do but if someone's talking i'm you know energized i like saying the word energize over the word excited because this is what they do to this is what they do to all of us they get us excited excited and anxiety they kind of go together like someone can say hey i got you a new car um and it's across the street you get so excited you run across the street get hit by a car trying to run to your new but if you're energized about having the car perhaps you look both ways see i played this dictionary game with the like this uh um this small webster pocket dictionary and we'll go to a page and say go to page with the word help on it and we say highlight all the words you think are positive and then we talk about afterwards why do you think that's positive so the word help is like it's like a uh it's like a bad leg on a table you think you could stand on it but if you stand right there that table could flip over the fourth definition in the word help is to ignore and it actually makes sense you know oh like if you have a meeting right here's the answer when you know the meeting didn't go do good uh after it didn't go well the person says it then oh how can i help that means they don't want to do nothing let me just give you a phone number right you know the word is to ensure and then there's a lot of words that end with ure that are very powerful future sure pure endure and um that that goes into like the rhyme because i'm literally trying to figure out the video game at all times and see where these things uh parallel i know this can get into like a riff where people like okay yeah you're losing what you're saying right now but um but look at that look at the dictionary look at these words i have friends uh that uh english is their second or third or eighth language and they say that english is the hardest language to learn because there's so many words to uh to that mean the same thing it it like it tears me to my core that my daughter has to learn two the difference between two t-o-o and t-o i wanna just be like just draw the number two like just make it like sometimes i don't know when you know the difference i'm like a terrible speller and i believe that there's like curriculums that are that are european curriculums that don't even apply to our genes you know who we are as a people like african descent people we don't even talk like that like this is a skill set but i'm still talking white basically like you'll see like a black pastor you know give this amazing like sermon or like marry someone i was at a wedding and this guy they said wow he speaks so well well what do you mean well he speaks super white like yeah that's what the definition of well right right it's just sounds that you use and to communicate ideas right yeah well it's funny i bumped it to a friend of mine um i actually met williams i said uh givenchy i wasn't expecting to see i wasn't expecting i mean expecting to see him i wasn't expecting to see him and we're at the mercer lobby and he caught me off guard and i was like i didn't use words when when i when i when i saw him i like almost communicated in a different language like a language like joy or happiness only 30 percent of our communication is is verbal that's why the masks just really throw me off because i can't tell what someone is thinking and feeling because a lot of times half the time people don't say what they're thinking and feeling and i have to decode with the mask i can only you know hear what they're saying that's the problem with social media too right yes things are black and white and things being taken out of context i mean that's the reason why people like you know love the show that they're like oh we got the yay joe rogan we can hear him go into all of these riffs yeah and we can feel him you could see you know how i'm looking you can see my energy and the way i'm saying it too yeah so and you see people sitting down having an actual conversation a real conversation yeah and and a conversation where anybody that comes on this show you don't have like this like sometimes with reporters they have like people that are media they have like a complex you don't have a complex you're like yo let's first off to get this straight like if i like i could whip your ass i'm joe rogan i'm a professional fighter now let's start the conversation which i think is another reason like with nick cannon he's like man i married mariah carey i did all these and both of these interviews have been very positive because people aren't carrying something already like some form of chip on their shoulder where they gotta like atta every sentence sometimes i talk to reporters it's like they're saying the thing they wanted to say to this guy in high school that they never got to complete the conversation and they're taking it out on me i'm like yeah i think there's a lot of people that have conversations with people and they want to create a viral moment too that it's not just a conversation they they have an agenda it's it's almost like you were talking about the disney star wars movies that then it's not a work of art it's it's a formula like two plus two is four let's put those together we'll make some money instead of the original star wars which was the hero's journey which was like a joseph campbell book it's just like there was a beauty and a purity to it it's a it's an expression like someone comes up with an idea and they bring it to fruition and then you get to watch and you're like wow it moves you the new movies don't move you and it was a crew of of um of leaders of thought leaders that like i was a is it brian de palma that told george to put the words at the beginning because it's like you really i all i've been feeling like is like when i talk up to this point i just been making thx you know and then the toys from star wars have not come out first which would be like you know like the yeezys or something like that and now some making the whole star wars in real life like backwards like the product came first kind of like disney like disney he was mickey mouse became super popular before he was able to get all of his imagineers uh imagineers in i want to point out you know when people talk about being you know self-absorbed or the center of your own universe um what's the main character in star wars name luke skywalker who created star wars george lucas oh but did he write it but listen to that last name yeah that's yeah george luke yes yeah he's the main character in star wars he gets this esther and it was awesome yeah there's there's something about uh things that are pure right versus things that are attempting to recreate something that people are going to like there's there's a difference and it's it's in music as well right like your your music resonates with people because it's obviously coming from your mind whereas some people are creating songs that they think are going to be hits they're creating top 40 it's coming from my heart and my gut but when it's the most pure it's coming from god and i'm being used as a channel it's like when tanya harden hit the the triple flip you know she had all that skill and then at some point it's not called a trip i'm about to say trippy triple lindy like is rajiv or rodney dangerfield or something but it's like there's these moments where we do things that are seem like superhero level and i think that's what m knight shalamon was laying out for us with unbreakable uh glass and what was the other one with the guy with the multiple personalities just like he's got three of these films that are like showing us hey you're superheroes you can believe it the greatest disabler of our of of our abilities our greatest our greatest kryptonite is doubt right you know fear yeah doubt like why did i um you know um like going to why did i register so late uh to run for president covet i like i remember like i i had uh i had the virus and i was sitting you know quarantined in my house and my cousin text me about being prepared to run for president and i just completely pull like put it off to the side because i was like shivering and you know having the shakes and taking hot showers and eating soup and you know just sleeping i don't think it was that bad i think it was a mild case um and it just threw off i mean it threw everyone off it threw everybody's plans off and then you know it was just this calling on my heart and i remember talking to like really like elitist um uh you know writers you know i was trying to avoid saying white supremacists but like elite like the the the liberal elites are like you know so boy who you gonna vote on you know like who are you to run for office and why would you sign up for office you know uh if you if you can't even get on ballots that's people are saying that to me and i could get on the ballot it's like there's black mothers that go into hospital and the doctor will tell them that there's something wrong with their child to get them to this is happening uh to this date and then when people say you know are you are you a pawn like for the republicans the reason why i think that people are asking me that is because the because the democrats do create black pawns they do have celebrities that they'll sit down and meet with and say you're going to be an advocate for the democratic party and you know everyone's like you know and i'm not trying to take any sides of like republicans or democrats i'm just saying why where why were people so much thinking that i was like uh a form of uh a pawn and then the idea that you know liberals would say like the funny thing is liberals i think uh and i'm i'm i don't know if i could classify myself as liberal but i'm i'm definitely kind of liberal elite i wrote my beautiful dark twisted fantasy like i've had some of the best writing so that would put me in that class so to say but i'm also just a purist like i see a kenyan home and be like that's beautiful right there i'm not like i gotta have the so the one of the most racist things that liberals who pride themselves on not being racist have said to me is like uh you're gonna split the black vote and that makes it seem like black people can't make decisions for ourselves and that don't know white people know me like i'm like only the liberal they literally make it saying like only black people will vote for me right think about that statement the the nuance of institutionalized racism and this would be like somebody from the art world you know i mean they just have a place where no one has really been able to embrace the idea of blacks not being in a block and staying in one place right or blacks having a devote democrat yeah or blacks have an opinion like us not being on boards or us being like handlers for other black people meaning like if we work at a label or we work at a big corporation it's our job to go talk to the other black people you know to calm other black people down but we're working for you know uh universal or vivendi or uh whatever the organizations were you know i was thinking about buying my masters and i realized that that was too small of a thought i'm gonna buy universal they're only a 33 billion organization i'm one of the greatest product producers that ever existed i'm i'm and i'm a child i'm 43 years old i was 53 million dollars in debt uh uh you know four years ago and now it's proven that i'm the new michael jordan of products i went to adidas and we were a 15 billion organization losing 2 billion before kova hit our market cap was 68 billion i went to the gap and are partnered with the gap and our stock jumped 45 in two hours the organization made two billion dollars and two out in two hours and now we've doubled we i mean the gap was uh mark cap was lower than yeezy it was like three billion dollars when when when i first got there now it's like seven eight billion dollars and we haven't even released the product yet but what i loved i you know i sat there and i did the deal without getting on the board and i looked at my cousin and i and i i didn't want to sign the deal without being on the board and i looked at him and said i'm doing this for you meaning like this is part of a relay race it would just be a given that if someone of color was to your position my position of influence would be on the board but michael jordan had to break down walls and michael jackson had to break down walls for us to break down the next walls and the next walls are the boardroom because you know what the boardroom is it's an opinion see people are fine for us to play basketball and you know rap and make clothes but the the society is set up is not really used to refine with us actually having an opinion and i can understand why because what is our opinion based on if we grew up thinking we were slaves if our opinion isn't based on hey my dad taught me how to run this company you know my dad is smarter than me and everything he wanted to do black people thought he was crazy and he had to do it with white people who thought he was incompetent because he was black and the way these companies and the way uh the music industry the way managers and the way society generally looks at uh black people is the way like a misogynistic man looks at a hot lady what can you give me what can you do for me no one a misogynistic man not gonna look at a hot lady and say can you run my company so you know this idea of me you know and i i i got like you know i'm building my factories i've just simplified the design and i was working with a guy that uh you know um that's helping me to you know build some of the factories it was an older white gentleman and he just matter-of-factly says we're sitting at his house uh in malibu it's a nice day he's just matter of fact he says adidas will never put you on the board and i'm like this this wall has to come down like how could you not have the guy that has the best idea so one of the great things with universal one of the approaches that we have is you know universal when jimmy iveen and dr dre sold beats by dre uh universal had a chance to buy in or do different things they sold it for three billion dollars that was half of the value of universal at that time of six billion due to the internet which the music industry was afraid of in 2000 universal now i think is a worth 33 bill 35 billion dollars um and now they have another steve jobs you know howard hughes henry iv disney elon kind of character within their midst but they're so concerned about the control of the idea of artists because they're using me as like this artist that has attracted other artists it also i use them i got famous i made some money i got to tour you know i became this superstar so we use each other now this is just an adjustment that needs to be made in the relationship and i can make and i will make products that will make more money than universal is worth but it's not about the money as i said earlier it's about the fact that even though my net worth is five billion dollars and i'm one of the most famous most influential god-fearing christians on the planet the i still have to go to this man or this organization and ask him for something and that is what it's about you can have a company right when you go and do your companies don't think because you got the most ownership that you actually have the control if you don't have the information and the knowledge of how the distribution works and you're not having that conversation you don't have the control so what i did in my organization with universal with gap and with adidas i told my lawyers my managers everything no one can communicate with these organizations except for me you can give me advice but they gotta talk to the boss which is me and right there you start to get the information flow i guess who's my cfo who me so that means i do have the time i do 10 to 15 transactions what i do is i pay because i had open credit cards i had checks you know i had people flying in and out i had a consultant agreements like people who weren't on the salary but they were consultants i had you know uh people paying for flights hotels cars food netflix like everything just running the account just even right now i cancel all my credit cards except for one credit card this is like the oprah winfrey moment where she's like man when i started spending cash i was like i really realized you know how much i was spending and i signed all my own checks and the thing that happens in the music industry uh is and just a lot of industries like people tell you that someone needs to do something for you and it's like look this siri do everything for you know you can do it's possible and it's just when you ask me how do i delegate my time it's important for me to delegate my time if i made 210 million dollars last year and yeah i have a lot of maverick ideas i'm working on cities and homeless shelters and farms and i'm reinvesting myself so a lot of mavericks will you know spend their money on their ideas and they'll invest in what they see the future is and i ended up with a net worth of 10 million i remember you know a few a month ago people were like you can't show your taxes because people won't understand that you're a billionaire if they see that you only netted 10 million last year and after the gap deal happened my net worth went from 3.3 billion to 5 billion and i had been asking the people around me to run the story and they were going to run it with bloomberg they never ran it i was not afraid of people looking at me like i was not a billionaire and i said be honest show my taxes show every everything and then the reports came back oh you're worth 5 billion it came from me just being honest when i want to say something about the gap deal also and specifically the name the gap in my and my journey with that like at age 16 i worked at the gap i always saw the gap as like being the apple of apparel i always had this comparison with siege i always felt like i was the steve jobs of the gap it was something about how clean it was and what mickey drexler had done all these commercials and like you know at age 16 i was uh working at the gap and i got fired for stealing and i was actually stealing khakis i was stealing khakis from my friend funny thing look i stole khakis for my friend when i started doing music at age 19 18 i went and bought a chain i came home one day didn't see where the chain was come to find out my friend was smoking crack and it stole my chain so the guy i was stealing for end up stealing from me um but um it's khakis i was stealing some gap khakis i wanted those khakis that bad um so then 27 years later you know i give my life to god and i start doing sunday service one of the things that i had to do for sunday service or i got to do that was fun for me to do was to design the wardrobe for sunday service and we would redesign t-shirts and it says in the bible that jesus wore a seamless garment so we started building t-shirts where the scene was only here or only two seams on the shirt or moving it around and what the neck was and i made t-shirt after t-shirt after t-shirt and christianity we said we stand in the gap so watch this this opportunity is presented and i always had clothes that were kind of chill like they could be at the gap they were not overly fashionable and god said you you you stood in the gap and i'm gonna have you stand in the gap for real and i'm gonna give you favor and increase and i know per some person i know somebody where all that design and t-shirts will come in handy i literally was designing t-shirts for sunday service like david working out in the field tending to the field you know when goliath came uh they wanted one of his brothers and the warriors to to go up against goliath and his father chose david and david said i don't need all this armor i just need these three smooth stones i just need you know this is how i got to see they didn't know david had had to fight a lion and had to fight a a bear so god by him tending to the fill in humility and in service to god and honor to his family he was able to have the skill set to take down goliath we hit the street you know it's a term that i had to learn wall street we hit the street like you never ever saw it before i used to be in san fran asking people to invest in me nobody invested me when i went to a wedding in san fran with all these billionaires and investors angel investors you should have seen people's faces they were like you jumped from the three-point line you ran a stock by 45 percent you see think about this you're gonna split the black vote you can't vote for that you you're only a rapper you're only it's like all these things that diminish me yeah and now it's like deadpool like i came back as like a superhero and i won't let that be the kryptonite i won't let my own ego be my kryptonite i won't let other people's opinions be my kryptonite i won't let these labels that people put on me be my kryptonite and a lot of times i don't like to watch these interviews back until about you know three four five years later because i'm always you know i'm visiting the now i'm existing in the future and visiting the now when i'm speaking to you and they make a lot more sense in the future because i can tell you but he can show you god can show you so a lot of stuff i'm telling you and some people are following me some people are believing in it and some people are just doubting it because they want to put this label oh he's crazy or it's just a black guy saying it or it's just a rapper it's just a it's just an entertainer it's just whatever it is so i can say the most wild ideas out loud it's like veronica corningstone wanting to be an anchor person and i remember she said so ron i told you i wanted to be a he said yes i heard you i wrote it down veronica corningston had a very funny joke tonight and every time i talk it's literally like veronica cornerstone having a very funny joke tonight like when i said i was gonna run for president that was like okay go ahead would you like to interject do you have thoughts and ideas also that you'd like to have be a part of your interview well you went from you went from people mad at you that you split in the back black vote all the way to the gap and all the way to veronica i made it but then i brought it back yes you did to the vote to run it for you brought it back from to people doubting you and people putting limitations on you people are tuning in this podcast to go on the journey with us yeah listen they do or they don't it's up to them yeah but do you know the beautiful thing is you're not listening to these people these people that are trying to put these labels on you and tell you what to do and you're not saddled down by fear you're not settled down by doubt you're you're willing to take these chances if you did become president what would you do that was different i mean pretty much everything i was just looking at the suits last night i was like yo what would you redesign i don't wear white anymore they had a white shirt you know they had like a i just um i would i would redesign this i i will and it's not a wood right it's not a if it's not a if it's just when right um we got to start with the budget i feel like you know the fact that i went from being in debt to uh to uh being i don't even like the way it sounds the multi-billion because we think about steve jobs money is like the least of what's awesome about him and the money is just a tool like it's like nails like i got the most names you feel like it's scored on the scoreboard though it proves it proves not just value but it proves effectiveness yeah and it's like you're crazy to your right so it proves in some way that a lot of the things i said that were crazy i was actually right about yeah looking at that budget and i think that that's part of god's like training like mr miyagi paint defense you know karate kid daniel son i on that i gave like the full description of the uh of the analogy just in case uh people didn't um what do you think you would do though if they come to you with talks about foreign policy people love talking about foreign policy that's the number one uh question yeah but when i talk about the budget you know this paint the fence the fact that i had to you know that i have to understand 300 million dollars of cash a year that you don't get trained for that that's like astronaut training that i have to understand how to have multiple industries that i have to understand how to build and house and provide you know i i provide people with health care and i could i had this idea of doing a zero employee org where i i put everything on my partners on universal on the gap on adidas but i believe this is amazing training for me as a a black person there's people who who have been raised to respect a penny but as a black person i've been raised to look down at a penny but the people who really hold their money respect every penny they respect the money and it's interesting i had an argument with uh one of my managers because i made my own travel ban in my organization because you know i did when i did sunday service a month and a half ago it was 25 flights coming in and people i didn't know because there's criminals in my organization trying to kill bob marley not to jfk or mlk me but deplete my resources so i created this travel explain that what do you mean by that what i mean by criminals in your organization like what do you mean meaning there's people that okay i fired this one cfo about three months ago and up to a week ago he still had an open credit card because i i'm gonna dig lower and dick lower and go to it it's like always like is this the new person that's in charge of your money it's like no i'm the new person that's in charge of your money that's in charge of my money rather so so that's why you became your cfo that's why i became and it's it's the best and it's it clears my thoughts and it really helps me with design it helps me as i'm designing uh uh designing uh what i'm doing at the gap it helps me when i'm how i'm designing the curriculum it helps me in the way i'm designing the kitchen the way i'm delegating the way i'm working the way i'm and being a better leader being a better uh being a better listener wait a second but there was some question you had i had i was answering and i gave it all before you went to foreign policies i went to the the budget well i said it's like danielson painting the fence the fact that i've had to really look at and understand that kind of money and this god-given anointing being a producer being a head of industry to be a fearing and god and a servant of god and a producer and head of industry at the same time is literally like the perfect combination for a president and to be honest i'm literally like every now and then america has to get america deserves the world deserves a leader that they can 100 percent trust that whatever i'm saying to you with the information that i have in front of me i 100 believe that like when i talked to the uh when i was with the president of haiti and he gave us an island me and shervin pisivar that was an early angel investor at uber and is working on the uh the virgin hyperloop right now a really great friend of mine he saved me he's had me avoid deals where i was gonna give up a percentage of my company for a third of the value and different things like that so uh we go to haiti and the president uh uh gives us this island to develop uh to make a city of the future and also we're gonna have the farmers and the people who live there take a percentage i mean take ownership of the land that they have right now so when it raises in value they all eat off of uh what the idea is but he said that um the way that he has done uh business with our president is so straightforward i believe that i know that me as president would be the best thing that ever happened for america's foreign policy i've traveled more than any president already and i bring people together i put rivals on songs together to create masterpieces i go and i empathize when i meet with leaders in africa when i meet with leaders in um i didn't really have a good uh next thing i wanted to sound good and like naming leaders and i wanted to sound see honestly so when i when i meet with when i meet with leaders i'm not trying to go in there and see how they can use my internet i'm not trying to go in there and buy up their land and develop it and buy it up for cheap you know we're we're going to share information you know we're uh you know we have a idea we just had of a dual citizenship for americans with african uh dissent uh that the ability to create environments and communities completely can change the way uh people act you know if people are hungry they're gonna act a certain way people have food they're gonna act a certain way people are away from their friends and family they're gonna act a certain way they're gonna need to they're at a college town they need to stop by this you know frat party and you know drink and do the but when they're uh you know but you got to go here so then you could go there and like society is all about dismantling the family i see things being more like a kibbutz or you know where the family can be as close and when the grandparents can be next to the children and um you know these ideas i have about um how communities uh ca should be are worldwide simplified ideas and that they're not based on industry even though i understand industry they're based on serving god and serving families and that's something that everyone across the globe no matter what country in the world whatever continental world all of the moms and dads have something in common they want the world to be better for their children we all want the world to be better for the children and we can show ways that we are not at odds think about the world is a giant piano but we're playing off-key so for a producer to synthesize those ideas and not say okay we're gonna shut i spent time in china i spent a year in china when i was uh in fifth grade i used to speak chinese like new york like i i don't know a lot of yeah my mom was an english professor they had an exchange program where a chinese student could come to america and she could go to which was there was like chinese at that time couldn't come to america as uh as easily so you know there's america's greatest export is influence and culture china actually has like imitation paris imitation they probably got imitation calabasas at this they probably do at this point you know the the artists define culture that's what makes there's the artist that made the design the statue of liberty there's an artist that designed the eiffel tower this is the reason why i donated 100 million dollars to james terrell's rodent crater uh uh project when i went to this is like the eighth wonder of the world but i saw spaces that we can exist in that would be helpful for our health our well-being these are healthier places for us to be we need to be like almost like turalyon's like our our life is like a shakespearean uh like shakespeare has written 30 percent of uh our language that we use like i say like he must have been a really nice person like davinci used to walk away from people when he would talk to people and that's but that's the reason why it's the da vinci code and at the da vinci life because he never was able to get it across to the to the to the level to affect us for generations to come these people love art but they want to put art in the box we need to surround ourselves with the artist because the artists are the the most connected the most truthful and their dinosaur never got killed somehow the people who have figured out how to make a real a living off of art is what do you mean by the dinosaur never got killed meaning art class would be considered to be fun like every kid loves to draw yeah right but some people got to grow up and like the artists right in some way don't have to yes like this separate we're all children we're all if you're if you're alive you're a child we're all children in god's eyes and we're all young people like jesus is a old person like he's oh like you know like adam is old you know if you're alive you're you're young and we're like children and there's all these things these sharp edges these corners these anxieties these fears these things put in our our food our diet our diet of what we consume right here that turn us old and make us brittle and make us uh put that fear on our kids don't you put that evil on me ricky bobby they put that they put that we put these evils on our children we put racism on our children we put fear on our children and the the children are fearless the children it's it's funny it's like claudio sylvestre one of our lead architects i worked with since uh age 24 he built this home in my oracle with john with john paulson and he has like this golf course which it's in the acoustics are incredible but it's this part where you can walk along that's 20 feet high and i said you know would you you know what about the kids what you know you have a balcony you have a banister or something and he looked at me and said they're smarter than we think wow and meaning like if we were never taught the missing banister theory that we could all tightrope walk the missing banister theory i wrote it in my book thank you and you're welcome that i wrote with my friend sakaya that's actually here right now that's uh uh that you were talking to earlier is look you could walk down a straight line without worrying about anything uh but you take that exact straight line and put it 20 story high 20 stories high you know i'm going with it yeah and you remove the balconies you're going to be so concerned about the idea of falling that it will make you fall yep and that's where the superpower is in removing the fear yes that's a beautiful thing to say right there and it's also probably the first sound biteable thing that i've said the entire all right let me talk to you about so we're serious here so let's talk about like real presidential issues let's talk about like here's here's some things that just when we talk about this country here's some things that are that mean a lot to me one student debt i think it's crazy i think it's crazy that we take children when they're 17 18 years old we send them way to college we make them literally hundreds of thousands of dollars in debt and then we ask them to go out into the world and try to manage this money and and try to get a job that's going to pay them a fraction of what they owe for their education i think it's crazy i think we should figure out a way to absolve student debt i think we should figure out a way to make education at the very least far less expensive than it is now this is this is a big issue for people absolutely i'm i'm completely confident that i will figure out how to get america out of debt that i have the ability once i see everything i never make the wrong decision when i'm giving all the information that's my that's my skill set anything i go into producing rap homes clothing anything once i'm given the right information i apply my taste and i have the best taste on the planet i mean quincy jones there's a couple people that's like okay crazy don't taste might be better than mine but if quincy could you imagine quincy jones as a president i could yeah or uh walt disney uh steve jobs like maybe some of these personalities are a little volatile yeah yeah but that's how he gets things done yeah like for america to be as warming and inviting as as as disney world there used to be you know this dream of you know people still have this dream of coming to them they're coming to america like it's the america that i grew up even with like when ronald reagan was in office it's like he was hanging out with michael jackson and you know it's like it felt america plus the way the media showed things like the american dream was alive and well and even at the same time in in the ghetto it was a living hell and we were being you know given you know bricks were put on the street uh bricks are pulled on the street doing the riots now bricks are putting on the street in eighties a different kind of brick and there were guns placed and the fathers were being taken out of the hood and this is all this so don't let me say like everything was perfect doing that um doing that era but the perception right now perception is more important than it's ever than it's ever been like what we show you know it's just i mean it's outright it's it's just uh i don't even wanna i don't wanna i don't know i don't wanna dwell on it let's keep going into what you're saying about the debt because also i don't have like if you ask me about covet i can only give you my perspective as a civilian i don't i'm not talking to these the same people you know and i also empower the geniuses i was talking to my man uh fred and my boy anthony about crypto and bitcoin you know the uh yesterday just to be prepped for this conversation and not about the specifics of alternate currencies which is like ac which is like tesla which is like but the uh this that my mind just goes on these like riffs right here but uh jack dorsey decentralized twitter two months before it really hit because he was talking to the bitcoin guys and these are guys that really have a perspective on what the true liberation of america and humanity will be these guys a lot of the the specifically these guys but a lot of the tech guys were able to use the new highways the new information highways and create the next frontier of our existence while the powers of our uh political system are still anchoring on electoral college which was based around slavery about the idea of slaves being three-fifths of man and get this it wasn't even created by pro slaves three-fifths of man was created by the anti-slaves in the north as a compromise and that basically explains the existence of black people in america to to this day the people that were on our side supposedly said we were three-fifths of men the people that were on our side the people on our side thought of us as three-fifths of man meaning like yeah come work for us but you know you're three fifths of men sitting you have electoral college and gerrymandering happening to this date where if you have uh uh latinos uh uh blacks other minorities they're redrawing the lines to affect the vote to this day that does not relate to the information highway that we live in today that allow all these you know tech guys to become multi-billionaires and lead uh and and and and lead free thought or allow you know as best as we could a version of free thought i i know i gave you a symphony but you see how all this really connects we're sticking you know why don't we just keep why don't we why don't we put the white wigs back on they still wear the white wigs down uh yeah england they still wear it you know that's the whole thing just because you know someone's not you know wearing uh uh uh a kkk uh uniform or a white wig doesn't mean that they aren't holding on to the very core of the the country being uh you know uh based on and built off of slavery so when everyone's saying vote you know that's the reason why my mercy is vote kanye because like vote for who look man if you ain't gonna say who you voting on out loud don't even wear the vote t-shirt that's so random right that's so rare and we always know voters like democrat and stuff because there's nobody is that trump that's like wears a vote t-shirt isn't that funny but it's such a go ahead if you do say that yeah you say vote is mostly vote democrat like and if you have an american flag mostly you're voting trump like these are these are realities that we've sort of accepted and it's subs it's all this subliminal stuff that's that's based on like fear and control even like this like this look at this the whole this is the three-fifths of man thing right okay the democrats were willing to take the chance of not winning as long as the conglomerate could be completely in control of as completely in control you know what i'm saying that bernie yeah bernie would have won he would have won this is something i wore a trumpet i'm saying like bernie is a superhero yeah you know and he would be the perfect the perfect and the perfect person to be the opposite of what trump represents yeah he's an anti-capitalist he's a is a guy who's a social democrat and you and but you know the problem they couldn't control bernie because you can't you can't control him he's been so consistent in his whole life so so what i'm saying is they literally kicked if this doesn't say something it's like they kicked the superhero you know saying they they well they wanted control it's the same thing they did with tulsi gabbard but bernie was interesting because he's this democratic socialist because he's got these ideas that are scary to capitalism you know it's funny because i i created the birthday party which on the on the next selection what's going to happen is i mean you guys got 300 million viewers you know after this it'll probably be 900 million because you know i run a stock up you know you just do a little bit of bill cosby in that neck the uh no doubt jello pudding exactly exactly so uh so this is a long rant but i really would like to talk to you about specific things okay i mean it was a beautiful long symphony but there's a there's a cap on it there's a pop we don't we don't we don't we don't want to catch up but there's a possibility that i could um it's actually technically possible for me to win now which would be the best option for america i would uh i'm i'm on uh 12 ballots and in 17 states that you could write me in on so if people got up people that never voted uh got up registered voted for me they'd have to take it take it to the house because i would you know i could possibly win now i'm definitely 100 winning in 2024 and with that thought i was like okay i got the birthday party but i was thinking maybe there's a possibility i would be they said that wouldn't happen i was thinking i would you know possibly be the democrat you know i don't think they would ever let you in like that but i don't know maybe who knows what happens after this joe biden kamala harris thing who knows he knows what they think you know some you i would be the first i'm i'm trying i'm not trying to i'm one of the first super famous public black free will uh servants of christ uh since modern media has come to pass meaning when i when i when i talk i'm not talking for a conglomerate i'm talking for myself in service to god that's it that's it like i'm not you know i'll cover my people cover my family but there's not some big plan or like some practice script thing where it says you go in and you you say this you you do this we we've got we want to keep uh selling kodak film so we want to stop you know you from bringing out the digital camera we want to keep you know selling this raising the price of gas so we're not going to look to how to like safely harness nuclear power or to do electric power okay go ahead ask another question i really just i quite love the sound of my own voice as you can see apparently uh it's okay so it's this microphone we started it sounds great so we started with student debt and we got we got on this long symphony yeah um have you given thought into the idea of free education and particularly here's a big one for me as well free health care i think if we think of ourselves as a country and our country as a community we're all a bunch of people that are together if we're going to take care of things like the fire department if we're going to take care of things like the police department education we've got to take care of health care we got we got to make it so that people get sick they don't go bankrupt we got to make it so that no one has to worry about being taken care of and i i and i don't mean to eliminate the ability for someone to hire a private specialist for surgery or anything like that i'm not i'm not saying that but i'm saying at the very least we have to cover base medical concerns for the population it's just it's an a giant part of what what it is to be a person is to to worry about your your body being broken to worry about being sick to worry about what this is going to cost your family financially and how it could ruin people this is a i mean this is a huge issue in our country is medical health so have you thought about that absolutely i i hear you and i feel you and i feel what people are going through i think that there is a it's not just how we treat people there's preventative measures yes that can help us from getting sick our our diet our our locations are our the our our jobs there's a lot of that that affects us and puts us in those uh situation transportation you know like as you go into like autonomous uh vehicles and tram systems like just kind of you know trains that are like uh floating malls or floating uh starbucks or something like movement like designing our world to be the world of the future will uh will help us with health that's the preventative message and then as far as uh being more inventive in the way we um we connect uh holistic uh medicine with modern medicine i believe in both medicines i believe in god i believe in god and nature i believe in uh science and physics and you know it's like the first simplest form of bioengineering uh i think is farming and to be able to have like i talk about the the guys at mit the greatest scientists in the world there's people who are that are like the elons of the the medical field but perhaps they're sitting there on the on on the floors like serving on the front line fighting covet uh where you know they didn't have the opportunity to create paypal and become a billionaire and go to the next idea or when they present it and want people to invest in these inventions that they have they haven't had the voice of the platform to bring this invention there's cures to things like one of the things is the silver bullet like what what i went through with the medication when they gave me the medication that made me fat but then they said okay we have one that doesn't we we all know what a silver bullet is in medication right so it's the um it's a medication that goes and just kills exactly what it's supposed to kill but for capitalism that's not the best medication to actually cure people capitalists want to keep people they want to treat them they want to treat they want to keep you sick because that's how you you keep making money to have a guy like for me when i say i put my life on the line i think about abraham lincoln i think about jfk to go in and sit and say you know the whole thing is no everyone is going to be more prosperous i think is the word not specifically are you going to 5x your money everyone's like trying to get no it's about prosperity and to be able to really have real conversations with the lead heads of like big pharm and real conversations with the heads of uh of of uh holistic and and natural healing to put these people in a room together people aren't even having they're mad at each other they're afraid of each other uh i i i donated to a christian school in cody and um i also went by and saw this other amazing school in uh in cody where they have uh autistic children and kids with special needs in the same classrooms as uh other as regular kids and i just saw this juxtaposition and the head of that that school is uh a christian but it's a state school so there's no prayer in the school and then the other school is fully christian but it's not a state school so they don't have money in the school and i wanted to have dinner with uh both of the principals come to find out the principal and these guys they talk maybe at a softball game or something the principal house is one block walking distance the principle of one schools houses one block walking distance from the school or the other principal that we're this close right now we have the solutions but we all have our backs to each other we need to face each other and like how we're facing each other right now and have these conversations the solutions for utopia are in front of us but what's holding us back fear people are sitting on their money really they're sitting under their money i know i'm gonna give you a thing okay that's it next one did you get did you get my perspective of the real the way i would approach you would bring people together to communicate and try to figure out a better strategy for health care yeah i mean and and in reality some financial realities that have to be in london when you go to the hospital no let me give you the american example when i go to the hospital i had something wrong on my foot three years ago they asked me you know do you want to take something do you want a pill i said no five doctors and nurses ask me if i want a pill this is like worse than when you don't accept water on the plane and they just keep like do you want some more water i'll take the water all right because i don't want to be responsible for the water like when the plane takes off and it goes like this and i gotta like hold it in my i don't want no water like i don't even know my like masseuse said i should drink more water uh so the so they they there are like people they have christmas parties about bonuses about giving out more medication so we talk about they do look at this how much does the earth cost exactly there's no price on it right we make money money's not even backed by gold anymore so it's engineering it's where the budgets are going and like it was the best part on uh one of the best parts on the sixth sense is when um when they looked at this video and it was a nanny uh they saw that the nanny was like putting stuff in like the porch for the child that had passed and he and then they said the ladies looked at the nanny and said you were keeping her sick you're keeping her sick like we are sick we are sick uh abortion culture sex culture uh capitalism we are sick we as a people as a not just the american society of the world we are sick and we are keeping ourselves sick we're all responsible like the black mirror episode we're all responsible in some way we all play some part like if i go to pornhub in the very next thing um and i uh and like backslide and do this because i struggle with this since i was like five years old right and the very next thing says something about like trafficking then i literally would have to like put my hand over that part and like click the thing i'm going to and thinking that like i'm not a part of the the bigger conglomerate that we're all oh i'm not really a part of the main problem because i'm i'm not as bad as that guy and i'm not looking at this part and i'm not like we all play a part of it then we're all sick in some way and the world has been designed to keep us sick like spatial engineering based off faith can save a world literally like building will save the world spatial engineering like engineering not going to space engineering our spaces the amount of space that we need the way that we interact with each other how close we are to our loved ones our families how close we are to our jobs we got to experience a lot of this some people it wasn't good some people it's better they were connected with their children and their families in a whole different way like we're talking this is my thing we could talk about all of these important current issues there's deeper reasons based on the slave mentality based on fear based on protectionism not specifically white supremacy and racism protectionism people just want to protect what they have and there's this like photograph where you're holding um the guys the little girls holding a teddy bear and jesus has a giant teddy bear behind her um her back i mean behind his back she don't want to give up the small teddy bear for the bigger teddy bear that jesus has waiting for her there is prosperity for all families here on earth right now in service to god there's happiness there's joy it's not a possibility it's a probability just the fact that god woke me up got me here safely and allowed me to talk to you right now and spark the minds of the people that are anointed to change the world is already what god wanted me to do if i didn't take a breath after this point god had me here for this conversation right now but i think god has more for me playing i don't think they gonna come for me until he done until he done with me they ain't gonna come for me until they done with me i want to make it so if someone wanted to sample and put in a beat it'd be like perfect they ain't gonna come they ain't gonna come for me until they done with me they ain't gonna come for me until he done with me uh yeah yeah yeah help yourself you're always creating now yeah but do you understand what i'm saying okay tell me what i'm saying what you're saying is that it's it's your overall philosophy the way you're approaching life you're approaching life that there is good for everyone if we if we all work together if we all work together in the spirit of the way you think the spirit of god that will not not approach this like with a famine mentality but approach this like there's enough for everybody there's an abundance if we if we engineer it correctly if we think about it correctly if we all come together with the spirit of everybody helping everybody this is the spirit of christianity this is the good spirit of christianity not the christianity that gets despised or disparaged or you know evangelists driving around in private jets the the spirit of of goodness and treating each other like brothers and sisters yes but this can be done on a national scale yes because those evangelists or the people who who spread the word of god you know there's people who are praying for me you know we're praying like i said i like to okay yes i am a genius but one of my most genius skill sets is recognizing other geniuses and empowering them and giving them the platform so the people that have been praying for me this whole time you know for jay to work for the kingdom look at me look at me right here working from the kingdom that not leaning on my ego not leaning on anything but leaning on god in this situation saying let's you know let's rise up together and show people what it's like to be christ like yeah we fall short you know i mean people love to like look at the christians that are the least christ-like to judge christianity as a whole well a lot of people got jordans in 23 years old and don't very few of them play like lebron you know they want to be like like mike but there's very few people that get that close you know it's like yeah yeah what you're saying is beautiful yeah that they do judge the people that fail people always go to the furthest extent like if you talk about uh abortion culture people immediately go to rape but don't do the math on what percentage that is and for me as a as a christian president you know as i said i go on that i touched on him before i realize we're in an imperfect world you know when i talk to uh my fellow christians and we talk about meat we talk about guns we talk about in this imperfect world there's a transition between where we are today and where we're going does yeah does the meat industry have a great impact on uh the ozone i from what i hear it does and we have to transition one of the things i wanted it's a thought that came in and thank you for allowing me to give you the thoughts that are coming into my head as opposed to trying to put me on a grid because i'm off the grid period the way i think clearly i paint in circles you know i don't i don't paint inside of the lines right so i was thinking about i forget the lady's name starts with a t but she changed the meat industry because she was hsp like highly sensitive person that's uh and put the uh the cows in a in round bins and uh that's what i'm doing when i say spatial engineering that's what i'm doing with our spaces that i'm designing with the farms and uh with the school systems the unlearned systems the what are the things that you're going to need you know in the future because 30 years we don't we don't even know we think probably the things that we're learning in school right now won't even apply to people when they're 30 years old that are learning this stuff you know age especially with technology especially with technology and the people who design the curriculums way before technology yeah so i mean i was in computer programming when i was uh uh eight years old and i used to know how to program this how i got into music in seventh grade i had a amiga computer that had 4096 colors that's why i got that one uh and i would program the different sprites and uh draw out each of the characters and animate them and i thought that was the next frontier to like and because i would do like animation books i wanted to be a animator and then i started doing the the music they had a music program on do the music for the video games and then i found myself running home from school all the way from 95th street to 119th street to go and just keep programming the music so this is like third age you know 12 13 you know programming video games and that being the gateway into programming music i got a longer story about that but i know you want to ask me some more serious stuff so um ding okay this is a big one the military um if you really did become president when excuse me when you do become president you're going to have to deal with hostile governments you're going to have to deal with hostile militaries and dictators you know people in another country that in other countries that don't have a value of human life and throughout history we've had immense problems because of that because of military conflicts how do you think you will approach that i mean you will be the commander-in-chief of the greatest army the world has ever known if you're in that position and we have to deal with some sort of a military action with china what if china takes over taiwan what if they invade taiwan what if something happens with syria what if something happens with iran what if something happens with russia and you have to make decisions about military action have you thought about this yes i would i have to say again like covet i'm a civilian and people could have all their perspectives that they could have of what they would do in that situation but i would have the greatest professionals on the planet the most skilled people that have all the experience that would present the information and i would make the most sound rational decisions and i would follow god's will in my approach to to dealing with these other countries to dealing with these other leaders there's there's something about you know our president's personality and the the leader of north korea's personality where there's there's a level of common respect and and that's the reason why they were able to talk and we we the fear had been taken off of us like people who are uh god-fearing self-made uh servants of their people these these other you know scary dictators they feel like they're that for their country and if they see a president that they know is just taking a check or part of a bigger conglomerate now i don't want it like i said i want to denounce any of the uh uh candidates then it's it's very it's very transactional it's um and i just said a prayer in this situation this isn't you said a prayer because of what what what what motivated you to say a prayer right there the seriousness the significance of this subject yeah absolutely we can we can't jump from jokes about this to you know joking about people's lives right we have to completely be still in this moment allow god to guide our steps and ask the right questions with the highest ranking officials possible this isn't something that you just wing or that you just come in and say i did a bit of research i got this like political answer right that's gonna get a rise out of people like this is this is people's lives this is you know this is a whole different you know setting or or mood than what this whole uh interview has has been about this is you know people are suffering in the throughout all sides in in in israel and in nigeria and haiti we're we're suffering the police force in in in in chicago and the the people the people who have been harmed by police and the police like this all is going to take serious time like time is love it's going to take that love and that time and moments of listening moments of understanding moments like when my wife goes and visits people in prison and she hears their stories she says i understand i understand why you're into in why you're in that situation i would have did the same thing in this situation and for us to go to foreign countries and really understand why that they're you know that they're in these situations or why the killing has gone for so long or why the hate has gone so long and why the pain just keeps on you know compounding and compacting there's the empathy that i just have as an artist that it doesn't become a two plus two equals four situation my dad was actually a a a psychology major and a christian uh therapist and this therapy we talk about therapy period it's like we need healing internationally not just selfishly for america america is number one internationally we need healing and i would lead i would i would lead with with love dignity the responsibility to our country the coverage of our families of our soldiers and in full service to god and to the american people it's the there's a mode that i would be in in that position like when i was a producer and i was a really young man i was running around hopping on trains or you know hopping turn styles and stuff and like stealing from cars and i mean not stealing cars but stealing clothes from stores and um then i was selling music and uh you know going and buying leather jackets and stuff then you know dating a whole bunch of girls going on tour and then i had a family and i had to adjust a lot of my mentality and behavior to grow and be the man that i needed to be then god called me and i gave my life to christ and god is helping me to be the christian that i need to be and when it's in god's will that i become the leader i will become the leader that i need to be so right now as i said i'm a civilian but my heart my mind and my spirit is in a place where i feel i know that i'm being i'm being called to captain this ship like when roosevelt went in america was in shambles when i when i'd say those things about those numbers when i went to adidas when i went to gap like i'm the person that you actually call when things are not going so well you know you have that the mob movies is the guy that goes cleans up everything and like puts everything i'm i'm like the forensic where in the same way how you saw my mind touch on ten things at a time and then i had to say ten sentences at a time if i could say them or maybe narrow them down to seven that's the way my mind takes you know information in and then it synthesizes it and it comes out as a song or comes out as a product using that mentality as a leader fearless god-fearing we will heal we will show the world what america should be the dream you said all this [ __ ] all the things that you've said in the most non-politician way i've ever heard anybody describe these things i know you really mean these things this is this is it's resonating with me that you're being a hundred percent honest and natural and that's that's what we're missing in politics today i mean it's one of the things that made people excited about trump as at least he was an alternative to the political talk he was an alternative to politicians speak where you know they're being dishonest and disingenuous but you just accept it you know they're reading things that have been written by speech writers but you just accept it because it says the things that you want to hear checks the boxes that'll say okay you got my vote what you're saying though is what you really feel and you really think and you're not saying it like a politician and that's what's going to resonate and people going to be mad at me if you get pregnant you become president you made kanye west seem likeable you turned him into the [ __ ] president you made him seem like a rational choice for president this conversation exposes a side of you that i don't think anybody's ever seen before and a long-form conversation where you realize that you you are a visionary you do you do have these ideas are real you're not posing it's not [ __ ] this is who you are and your well thought out response particularly to the idea of military conflict it's very impressive man praise god i'm glad i did that prayer brother listen we're three hours into this let's wrap this up on a beautiful high note um so people can write you in if they want to and uh we have uh a we have a video on that brian yeah except brian will play this video on on how they can write you in and uh we'll wrap it up here here it is how to write in kanye west on your ballot now for people that are watching this on youtube you'll be able to watch this and on uh on spotify you'll be able to watch this but if you're just listening you just got to go down to the part where it says or write in uh it's pretty straightforward write in candidates um it'll show you where you can write it in this video will be available this video is on youtube right it's on his uh twitter it's on twitter okay write in kanye west on your ballot it's gonna be very interesting to see what happens with this i'm telling you man that was one of the most interesting and impressive uh answers to any question because it was so obvious that you were you were coming from the heart and that's that's what we all need right now we all need no [ __ ] absolutely well thank you brother it was uh an honor really thank you pleasure i'm glad we finally did it yeah awesome this won't be the last time all right let's do it again all right goodbye everybody you

Channel: PowerfulJRE

Views: 11,164,019

Rating: 4.6808181 out of 5

Keywords: Joe Rogan Experience, JRE, Joe, Rogan, podcast, MMA, comedy, stand, up, funny, Freak, Party, Kanye West, Joe Rogan, JRE #1554, comedian, President, Yeezy, 2020

Id: qxOeWuAHOiw

Length: 177min 29sec (10649 seconds)

Published: Sat Oct 24 2020

Reddit Comments

[u/3_Slice]

Dude, this has to be the LEAST amount of talking Joe has ever done in all his podcasts, and this is 3 hours long.

[u/Budget_Calligrapher]

im like half-listening to this every few minutes and its actually wild how kanye will talk for like 10 minutes and somehow cycle through like 17 different tangents. this is like anti-background listening material

[u/im_alive]

Jamie pull up OG New Body.

[u/Mr-Rocafella]

“Making the studio red WAS A CHOICE a bad one at that Joe”

[u/rawspeghetti]

Is Joe even in the room? 30 minutes in and Kanye is interviewing himself

[u/treefingerstoday]

The only thing i learned from this is Ye been watching mad movies during quarantine lmaooo

[u/Sheiky_Baby]

Can’t wait for MuchDank

[u/Crash_Bandicock]

"WE GOT TO SEE, HOW DARTH VADER WAS MADE! I WATCHED THAT SHIT LIKE TEN TIMES DURING COVID!" 😂😂😂

[u/TheUnkindledAsh]

Looking like we have CalmYe today folks.

EDIT: I hit the 1 hour mark, Imma revoke my statement. He's still in a calm cadence, but his thought flow is overworking here and it's insane. Not in a negative way, but in a chaotic way.