Joe Rogan Experience #1552 - Matthew McConaughey

[Laughter] [Music] hello matthew hello joe what's going on man you got a book out got a book out got green lights trying to catch him trying to create him what makes a guy who is successful as you as an actor what makes you want to expose more of yourself because that's kind of what you're doing by writing a memoir right you're exposing your thought process your your your life your lessons another another way of communicating uh you know what i do my day job as an actor um it's got four filters from the raw expression there's what i've there's my raw expression there is what's being recorded there's what's being edited and there's what's being put on the screen um i wanted to do something where i got rid of the filters writing a book there is one filter because it's the written word um what you do what we're doing now when you do stand up that's no filters you know that's the direct it's live the the big show is always recording uh sort of ultimate goal but i wanted to uh i wanted to put it down and say hey i want to i'm part of these movies they're usually written by somebody else directed by somebody else edited by someone else finance but someone was like no i want to go direct my own movie i want to produce my own movie while i do that i want to put the words on a page and i'd been writing for 36 years so i had a lot of content to go through and see if it was something worthy of sharing yeah so you've been keeping a journal for 36 years yeah what made you start doing that i think probably in the beginning the usual reason someone writes in a journal you know well my heart's broken gretchen donnelly broke up with me on my face why do i only have peach fuzz over my pecker and everyone else and then in my early 20s um i remember i was i was kind of rolling i was in college i had a job i had money in my pocket i had a nice girlfriend making my grades my relationships were good and i remember going oh you hadn't been writing in your journal near as much notice you don't do that so much johnny when things are going well and i said i think you better start writing down things when things are going well i mean my go my idea was that hey you're going to get in a rut again you'll lose your frequency again in life you might want this to go back and look at to help you recalibrate and that proved to be true um you know so many times we dissect failure and and and hardships my life but we don't dissect success and going back in those journals i found that there were times when i got in a rut later and i was able to go back to those journals and go what were your habits when you were rolling man who were you hanging out with where were you going what were you eating what were you drinking how much how much sleep were you getting how are you looking at life and they'd helped me recalibrate in the times when i was off frequency and get back on the rails again and find my frequency again what were the things that when things were going great what what was what were the common factors common factors were one check in with yourself before checking in with the world when you wake up in the morning um really to sit there and take a little time um read a little something that's between me and me write a little something that's between me and me before picking up the damn phone and saying hey what emails came in or hopping out in the kitchen and going and everyone else is already up going hey hey what's up take take take take 10 minutes to check in with me before checking in with the world um what were the other things sense of humor sense of humor um i found that i was laughing more um my happiest time in my life when i got my wink back man when i got my wink if i lose my wink it's like oh i'm taking things too seriously um so i had i had more of a sense of humor um didn't they take things as personal in in many ways um and wasn't asking permission as much when i was rolling asking permission like what do you mean by that well just asking permission about going you know having the confidence to believe in something i want to do and just doing it and saying hey if you ask permission you're already creating one of those filters away from the raw expression just do it it's live don't you can what you're saying what it sounds like is like you almost like self-medicated with a type of medication or a type of meditation that you invented yourself you almost like figured out a meditation because that's what people who meditate that's what they say to do take an you know x amount of time 10 20 whatever it is minutes out of the day focus on your breathing clean the mind out of anxiety and stress and if you do that on a regular basis you'll have a happier life and you seem to have figured that out on your own or did you read books about doing this i think i figured it out on my own i mean the other thing that i didn't tell you was to book in the day before i say my prayers at night to go through the day which i don't know about you but it can be hard to remember what you had for breakfast after dinner when you're going to bed it can be hard to remember what those first things we did in the day so i'll go back through my day when i'm happiest i go back to my day and i like to write a mental note of what is tomorrow what are my plans for tomorrow um that's a big stress reliever for for me um i i think i learned it on my own i've always been a list keeper i love making a long list of things to do during the day and i add everything i add the simple things that you know you're going to do anyway in in the list you know like kiss your wife you know what i mean drop a deuce whatever it is i i write things that i'm going to do just so it's more to mark off the list you write you write down you have to take a [ __ ] like really just remember you know enjoy enjoy that or read something read something funny or or have a listen to that favorite tune of yours something that i know because the longer the list the more things i can mark off that day the more i feel like i accomplished and the more it makes it kind of easy to do the hard stuff you know i yeah i do that with some things that i have to do like exercise and writing i do that with some things but it seems like you're very meticulous with this yeah i go through hot streaks and cold streaks on it you know i do it more times than others but i've found that those are the common denominators some of the things i do when i am the most happy i'm not a big meditator but my exercise i call breaking a sweat once a day exercising i find for me that is necessary because it puts a demarcation between all of my responsibilities and i could sometimes look up you know how it is if sometimes you go through the day or days and you're so busy and i'm i'm good on autopilot getting stuff done but everything you have to do stress comes when those responsibilities feel like they're stacked vertically on our shoulders and there's a proverbial weight on our shoulders when i go break a sweat all of a sudden all those things that were stacked vertically on my shoulders my responsibilities lay down and they're laterally out in front of me so there's no more weight on my shoulder and i find that i get those things done better and with more enjoyment if i just go oh there they are in front of you just handle one then hop to the next one handle that and hop to the next one and handle that i handle much more better but i need those i see demarcations between my responsibilities if i go break a sweat yeah i couldn't agree more with that i think there's there's a biological need for that when human beings are under pressure because i think the way our bodies are set up pressure historically genetically meant your life was in danger and you had to exert energy and your body stored up this energy you you had adrenaline rushes you had anxiety you had all these different physical needs that you had to take care of and if you don't exert energy those physical needs are not met your body's confused it stores up a lot of this and you just you get anxious you yell at red lights and people just freak out generally your tolerance for [ __ ] is way lower but if you can just get that physical need taken care of you're way better at handling life way better way better yeah i couldn't tell people that enough i'm a broken record with it i say it too much and i i love hearing people like yourself successful people that have thought about a lot of the various aspects of what's good and bad about their life expressed that because i think everyone needs to hear it it's just we need to hear it from enough people so that it just get becomes ingrained in everyone's head every day brush your teeth every day break a sweat just just go do it i mean it's good for so many things yeah you know people talk about oh you know no stress i'm like well [ __ ] yeah the stress is probably fine it means you give a damn you know what i mean you're gonna have stress you're supposed to have stress but i know i handle things better and more thoroughly and more like myself like i want to the outcome is always better and i enjoy doing it more if i do go break that sweat and get those endorphins going and that presses reset for me and it shows me a little it separates all the events like i said laterally and they don't feel like they're stacked up on top of me yeah also sleep sleep for me how much do you get a night nine and a half i love it that's great i wish i could do that god damn when i get a nine and a half out an hour night oh my god i feel so good the next day i feel amazing i feel like a newer person well my i'm lucky i have a wife that says no no you get your nine and a half i'll get my seven because i'd rather handle the stuff i handle that you don't while you're sleeping than be around you when you hadn't had enough sleep ah well you set it up right yeah i i can't stress that enough too sleep is is everything sleep exercise health keep the body functioning correctly all those things they they they're not just it's it's not a vanity thing and it's not a laziness thing it's literally like it improves the quality of the way the mind functions and you get better things done your the quality of your work will be better definitely think more clearly you don't waste your time chasing down [ __ ] you don't you know you do the right kind of work you know we all know that i i love hard work but i've got many times in my life where i'm doing the wrong kind of work i love the kind of work where i've accomplished what i needed to do during the day and i lay my head on the pillow and i'm exhausted because i got done what i needed to get done as best i could i do not like the exhaustion at the end of the day where i'm like man i feel like i was just going to revolutions man i don't know if today had any ascension to it i didn't build anything and today was a i don't know if i maybe i went backwards you know i don't like that kind of exhaustion um and that's the kind of exhaustion that actually i don't go to sleep well i actually keeps me up the only thing i get good out of those shitty days is a desire to never have those shitty days again i think the the good the good aspects of negative feelings is recognizing how good positive feelings are how good the feelings of accomplishment are by failing and that's why we're talking about you know like no stress just live in peace that's a crock of [ __ ] that's like never feel bad well then you're never going to appreciate feeling good like yeah i need hills and valleys i'm with you uh 100 on that i mean i write in my book you know and i get asked a lot do you believe in fear and i'm like well hell yeah i believe in the future who the [ __ ] doesn't believe in fear well you know you see there's like no fear oh those people are so silly like no no no no i do and they're like do you do fear i said i have fear every single day it's the overcoming of the fear or i know being raised you know we were a physical disciplined family we got we got the belt we didn't get grounded my parents motto was we're not going to ground you because that takes away your time and your time is your most valuable thing no we never got injured we just get hurt at the time you cried and it was over with but there were things that i did not do growing up and still do not do for fear of the consequences that your works for me gone i retired things i did not do growing up going like no that'd be a lot of fun but not so much not more fun than how much it's gonna suck if i get caught [Laughter] physical consequences are it's a very controversial subject because a lot of people think i don't hit my kids but a lot of people that i know who are my age were hit when they were young and they look back on it and they say you know what i learned from that and my parents didn't they didn't beat me they physically punished me for something that i did wrong and they they didn't do it to be sadistic they did it because they cared about me and that's how they were raised it's a very controversial subject because people get up in arms with the idea of hitting children you know so yeah you bringing it up that that it was beneficial to you is going to have a lot of people's hackles raised sure and i get asked all the time and i've shared it openly how i was raised and what kind of corporal punishment we got i don't choose to you know discipline my children the same way my parents did but i've said this before i wouldn't trade one single of those ass weapons i got for the values that were instilled in me from getting them and i'm very clear and was at the time that i earned every one i got i earned everyone and we were family you know my parents were like we get it over with and over take it and it's over and we don't hold grudges no one's going to speak of it again and if you got in trouble that was the night dad would take us across town to our favorite burger joint and let us stay as late as we wanted it was and it was over um you got more trouble if you brought something back up you know to somebody in the family yeah but what about when you do that no no they already got in trouble for that you don't bring it back up you could not go to sleep in our family holding a grudge my parents would stay up all night and let you miss school to sit there and keep hashing out until we could hug it out cry it out and say i love you and move on sounds like you had a wise family i mean it's it's a controversial thing to say if they hit you and a lot of people would say there's other ways to do it but the way they made you hug it out and stay up all night and communicate it sounds very wise i think it was you know i don't uh you know like i said i don't choose to discipline my kids the way my parents discipline me but i damn sure don't judge them or say what they did was wrong came from a different era as well right yeah yeah that's a thing that is very difficult for people to come to grips with is that you know human beings that were raised 30 40 50 60 years ago they it was a different world it just was different and we know more now and like you're saying you do not choose to discipline your children that way but it was so common back then it was yeah i mean it was you know my parents were probably thought they were taking it easy on their boys more than their parents treated them yes they probably had it much more harsh yeah um you know and it's a it's a like i said i there are things i did not do that i should not have done for fear hitting my backside so you know there's value in that in that fear and consequences and consequences go both ways you know there's goblins in the bathroom there's a consequence for everything we do but there were definitely things i didn't do that i should not have done uh for the fear of the consequences that were useful to me is this the writing of this book is some of it almost like like letters to your younger self like a lesson to people who are like you coming up because one of the things that's so beneficial uh to young people with reading autobiographies and memoirs of successful people lived extraordinary lives is you get to see all the thought process you get to see the the warts the failures the the whole thing the fears the anxiety you get to see it all so you go oh that matthew mcconaughey guy he's a normal dude he's not just the guy from dallas buyers club and all these movies he's a normal human being and maybe i can one day achieve heights like him as well or maybe i i read this book and i'm someone who feels like you know as we often do when we're going through a crisis that we're the only ones and it's only happened to me i'm the center of the universe no one else will understand and you can read and go well here's a guy who's successful who shoot i even maybe thought he just kind of rolls out of bed and makes everything look easy which you find out i i try to work to get to that point but maybe you look and you hear and you go oh he went through some similar things i share some stories in here that are very subjective to me but the more subjective and personal i got the more i found that oh these are more relatable to the more amount of people out there so you may read a story and go i have that story a similar story in my life well here's how mcconaughey handled it or wished he would have handled it or here's some help he got along the way here's somewhere where he's he took a walk about with himself and found out some things about himself maybe that's something i could do for myself so there are some tools in the book for someone to see themselves in and help navigate our way out of crisis red and yellow lights but also how to navigate things when we are catching green lights because i have a chapter here called the art of running downhill um you know i i self-sab i've self-sabotaged myself when things were going too well before um until i learned that that really wasn't my right to to put a roof over my expectations for myself and who the hell did i think i was well that's more common than not isn't it there's the people get what they call uh was imposter syndrome you know it's you don't feel like you deserve all the good things that are happening to you and it just seems odd you see it happen to other people it almost makes sense you see other people being very successful it you're detached but when it's happening to you it's almost like this this is uncomfortable because this is not normal and so i'm gonna [ __ ] this up so that i i feel like i used to feel before which at least even if it was failure it's comfortable i'm accustomed to it i need some resistance yes you know and look and i think there's very healthy ways to create resistance in our lives when we are on so-called easy street yeah that maybe not challenging ourselves in the right way you know that we need to create resistance to overcome it to feel most alive but there's also foolish times to create resistance and the fact of that is things are going so well you think that's how it's going to be for the rest of your life no trust me the uphill's coming the drama the real drama is coming don't create any false drama in front of you right now because you're kind of patronizing yourself the real drama is going to come someone is going to get sick you are going to get hurt something will happen in your life the world will do unto you or you'll do it unto yourself so don't trip yourself running downhill and face plant and break your freaking nose just because you needed some resistance running downhill yeah because it must be that uphill is coming you know what i mean but to go back to the first part of that i'm i'm a big fan of creating resistance to keep myself in check and to make sure that i'm feeling most alive to overcome the right things in my life yeah me as well i i find physical resistance is the best thing to calm my mind and and to provide physical challenges that allow me to it allows me to deal with uh success easier because there's [ __ ] that i have to deal with but the [ __ ] is physical and it's sometimes is challenging mentally to do you know like very physically exerting exercises or particularly jiu jitsu or martial arts because it just it breaks you down and so then the the other stuff that's sort of it seems like it should be complicated but it's not you don't know why you don't sweat it as much wait it sobers you up yes in a very literal way in in the same way it's a daily routine to sober yourself up to to throw off the mendacious [ __ ] in your life that you were so concerned about and get down to what really needs to happen mountains become mole hills you know it it it's you know big moments in our life sober us up too i know my father moving on and passing on from this life sobered me up in a way that i then stepped up and said oh you don't have your dad to rely on anymore to catch you when you fall all these things he's been teaching you that you've been kind of making b b minuses in life now you better start making a's at him because he's not there so you better take some ownership and i remember when he moved on i carved this in a tree be less impressed more involved and what it was as soon as he passed away i noticed that all the things that i was revering in life mortally like the fame people that success money they lowered down to eye level things that i was looking up at and all the things that i was patronizing and condescending and going i was sloughing off that's not worthy of me they rose up to eye level and i remember saying boy the world is flat i'm looking it in the eye i see further i see wider i see clearer um i've got to take ownership of myself and i stood with my heart higher i stood my head higher and i walked forward and started doing things and that way that i was saying er without asking so much permission all the time and got a lot more done and became a lot more myself and found more satisfaction yeah sometimes people do need some wake-up call to let you know that this is a temporary existence and make the best out of it and enjoy and sometimes it doesn't happen unless something tragic happens like they are in a terrible way but also a beautiful way there's a lot of power and tragedy because you you get something on the other end of it and you get clarity we will get some clarity out of this tragic and awkward time of covid yes there are lessons we're learning that we don't even know what they are right now that when we get out of it will inherently be part of our being that will go forward i sure as hell hope so but you know us humans we're quick to snap right back to how we were before yeah my concern is that it's t it's happening so fast but it's going to take a long time to sort of even out and for us to reach equilibrium that's what i'm worried about with this wait that what's happening deterioration that you know the financial deterioration the fear the changes with the masks and the social distancing and everything is happening so fast i'm worried it's just going to take a long time before people feel comfortable again oh yeah i mean look i think for for for millions of people yeah this the new normal i think i don't think we're ever really going back to how it was i mean this is a year that agree or disagree with how we've gone about it and how things have been politicized here and there this is a year that have shaken our floor i don't believe this is ever this year is going to be on page 14 of the news for quite some time i think we got a lot of rebuilding to do in the long term it may be a 20-year build yeah i know i agree it's uh it's just strange it just feels strange you go outside the world just feels different than it felt a year ago and that's that phrase the new normal that people like to bring up and this is uh this is where we find ourselves but i along with you i'm i'm almost always optimistic and uh i have a lot of faith in human beings and i think that we can get through this and and have a very valuable lesson about when things do happen that are positive and good maybe we won't take it for granted as much as we did before because we never thought that something like this was ever gonna come along where the whole world was gonna shut down for seven eight nine ten who knows how many months yeah forced winter yeah we had one first upon us in something that we don't take enough time to force upon ourselves and choose upon ourselves to do you know you talked about optimism which i'd love to open that up with you and faith in mankind and i was asked the other day about how do i trust and this is a time in the world where there's great distrust and people don't believe you don't just trust you don't you don't trust others you end up not trusting yourself et cetera that's a rest of process it goes back and forth and then everyone's walking in circles but my answer and i never thought about it until this guy asked me i was like well like i'm talking to you right now joe i give you you have 100 of my trust until you don't i'm not coming in hedging my bet with you or anyone that i meet for the first time i'm not coming in like well you're gonna have to really earn your trust with me i'm looking out for you no you have a hundred percent you may ask me some questions right now that i'm like going i think he's getting something else that's not really in my best interest and maybe then you start losing some of my trust but as of right now we meet you have a hundred percent until it starts to decrease and that's all that's up to you i try to go towards everybody like that first so how is that and let's talk about optimism because there's foolish optimism there's like and i don't think what you and i are saying is hey class half full always see it half full no let's recognize that it's half empty that's the inevitable part it's half empty or tap full now what's the constructive way forward what can you do something with the the half the glass got nothing in it or a half it's got something in it well i think what i can do is is with the half it's got something in it make something it irrigates and create more water so i can fill it up i mean it's choosing where can we be constructive and in the af choose the affirmative and that's not a foolish optimism because a lot of times i think certain optimisms hallmark card optimisms can almost deny that there was the other half of glass that was empty or denied it's a problem and i'm not into i'm not not really a purchaser of denying where there's a problem you've got you've got what i call whiskey philosopher wisdom like if you and i were having a couple of drinks at the bar i have a feeling you would say some cool [ __ ] that i would remember and i would take home and i'd go hmm i'd be like lying in bed going damn i'm gonna remember that that makes a lot of sense where'd you get that from ah i think i mean i grew up in founded storytellers i love drinks i love bumper stickers i love slogans i love to deconstruct a big conversation down to what's a one-liner what's the title of that song we just sang what's the title of this you know this hour or whatever you and i talk um what's the title of a relationship i have what's the and you get enough of those things oh what's the album title um i i think of things lyrically and i think that may be where it comes from as i think in a musical in a musical way is this something you've acquired is this something you always had or you just sort of slowly developed it i think i'm guessing it was slowly developed i mean again i come from a from a family of storytellers where we sat around the table and told stories and if you didn't tell your story good somebody else the table took it over and you speak up you better be telling a good story and not dragging on or losing your train of thought because somebody else will step in and roll over you right so when you wanted to get a word in you better be a good storyteller well is that how you got into acting like this the ability to entertain because the storyteller is essentially an entertainer sure well i went to film school first because when i look back at the diaries i really couldn't admit that i wanted to be in front of the camera as an actor but that's what i really wanted to do um but i went to film school because i felt like being a storyteller behind the camera was something that my dad one could digest as a possible route forward for his son and it was all that i could digest at the time um so when i made the leap to film school i immediately would direct actors by performing myself in front of the camera so i really liked the the the first person subjective performance and then i got that that job in that summer of 92 on days confused where i ended up three lines turned into three weeks work i'm getting paid 320 bucks a day people tell me i'm good at it i keep getting invited back to set i'm like is this [ __ ] legal um yes and so i went back graduated picked up and packed up my u-haul and drove west young man you know two weeks out of out of graduating college and you know i didn't have that story of roughing it when i first got out there first two auditions i went on i got the job that's pretty [ __ ] amazing yeah did you when when you say that you you didn't want to admit that you wanted to be in front of the camera like what do you think was holding you back i think it was the id look i was raised in a blue collar family where you get a job you work your way up the ladder company ladder to be in the arts to be in front of a camera the actors sounded so vain sounded so avant-garde sounded so european sounded so so so nothing stable about it and so to bring that up to my dad even bring it up like i said i could it was not even in the vernacular of my dreams i did not even dream about the only place that i admitted it was in my diaries and i found those where i wrote to myself before i could even consciously admit it that i did want to be an actor all the way back since 1988 but i never admitted it until i started doing it and it was turned in about 1993 that i was like okay i think i can do this i'm giving it a shot and i love this it's totally understandable that you would fall into some form of self-sabotage if it came that easy if all of a sudden you're on dazed and confused all of a sudden you do your first two auditions you get the gig everything's rolling you're young and handsome whoo come on dream night i mean how did you self-correct tell you what i did i uh i got it really happened around 96 after i did a film with time to kill i remember the friday before time to kill open that's the movie that that i was the lead in a big budget john grisham movie that was the one that made me famous all right so the friday before that movie opened i you know there's a hundred scripts i wanted to do i would have done anything to do any of these scripts 99 no you can't one yes you can i'm walking down the third street promenade in santa monica 400 people in the promenade 396 minding their own business four of them checking me out two girls that thought i was cute and a couple other people maybe like my shoes the monday following that weekend time to kill opens that night the monday following all of a sudden out of those 100 scripts 99 yeses you can do any of these matthew one no all of a sudden that same promenade walk i took 400 people now 396 were staring at me and four people weren't one of them was blind all right it was it inverted the world became a mirror i noticed oh [ __ ] i don't need any strangers anymore people are coming up to me going like i'm so sorry about miss hud and i'm going wait a minute number one what's your name i've never met you how'd you know i had a dog whose name is miss hud and has cancer you just skipped five filters of howdy you know what i mean and i remember feeling unbalanced about it i'm 23 at that time i'm being told i love you i love you and in my mind i'm going man we don't throw that word around i've said that to four people in my life uh so i wanted to know what the heck was real what really mattered and i was looking for a place to go i needed to get out i needed to go those demarcations we talked about earlier i needed to go break a long sweat i needed to go out and let memory catch up see what the hell was real what was not so i packed up my stuff um i went to a monastery for about a week and then i got back and i went off i had this certain dream a rep repeating dream that came to me and i went to peru and floored the amazon for 22 days and it was a forced solitude nobody there knew my name they didn't speak english i was forced to be with myself and my thoughts in my own company which i was not enjoying so after about 12 days of shaking the monkeys off my back figuring out what the hell i was going to forgive myself for and what i was going to lay down the hammer and say enough's enough about um i came out of it woke up one morning light as a feather and shook hands with myself and said we're going to be all right man uh you're the one person i can't get rid of mcconaughey so we might as well get along and reentered and that recalibration helped a lot to disseminate through all the [ __ ] and all the excess of affluence that was coming at me at the time and i found some discernment you know i found some discrimination in my choices again um and moved on from there but i've had to do that i've had to take off on my own many times to go recalibrate that sounds like a story of a man running and the rocks fall right behind him like you just missed it like also 23 years old you weren't a child star but it was damn close like we all know what happens when your personality develops in the spotlight and you're famous almost no one gets out alive i mean and i understand it i i i wasn't ready to go out to hollywood before i did hollywood's not a place to go find yourself hollywood's a place where you can be anything you want it's infinite yeses well then the infinite yeses as you know the all the infinite options can make a tyrant of any of us what is that noise that keeps going off is that on your end that's on my end what is it i think it's emails coming in it's a crazy ding thing sign it is that what you get when you get emails that would annoy the [ __ ] out of me what's yours do nothing nothing i don't i check them once a day oh see i don't text you know i don't i like to email more than text because i can press i can flag an email i can't flag a text i wish text would allow me to flag it oh i'm going to save that to answer it later and if i would just do text i may forget you wrote and then two weeks later ago i never wrote him back right i do that where's my delete it doesn't go ding i don't know i maybe jody foster made it out alive she might be the only i mean you worked with her did she nor did she make it out alive of being a child of fame she made it out alive you know she was yeah she was was she the coppertone girl on the beach she was a bunch of things she she wasn't she in taxi driver yeah i mean man she did you know who else did ron howard yes he did he's a very nice guy i ran into him at a doctor's office he couldn't have been nicer and more normal and really enjoyed talking to him yeah solid um you know but i don't know i've never talked to them about how they navigated in their youth they obviously had some support because you know you you i see the i see parents with their with their children and they want them to be in from the camera and i've even seen some set that we work with and the mothers behind the camera like olin mills photography going cheese say cheese and the director you go no no no no no this is not olin mills we just want the the child to be himself for herself if they have the confidence to be themselves in front of camera don't be acting like anything this is not a olin mills photo shoot um and so a lot of times i've seen the parents they're the ones that actually need the recalibration yeah um to go whoa don't be you're making your child doesn't know who he or she is yet and yet you're forcing them to try and be someone else and that's their reality there's danger in that yeah sure no there really is it's it's very unfortunate when you see that um you've worked with kids that have had to play your kid like is that does that feel conflicted to you when that happens like you almost like don't want them to do it no i i that's been some of my most comfortable roles as playing a father or a father figure and i think that's because the one thing i always knew i wanted to be in life as a father i knew that since i was eight years old what i mean is for the children themselves do you feel weird for them no no the kids that are playing your child like knowing that they're gonna be in a film at a really young age and they're gonna experience all this um i mean i'll check in with you know again what i've noticed is it's the parent that may need the recalibration the kid's just fine but then you see the the the mother or the father loving it more than they're loving it or loving that child is it from the camera we're going to be famous yeah well you know when i can i've tried to talk about are your values in line here because you're your son or daughter's future and who they are is depending on how you deal with it i've also seen parents handle it really really well um you're going you're going to work you have a job to do if you have a talent to do that but you still come home and you still do the chores and you're still my son or my daughter who acts just like you do and we don't do any of that other that bs you're not things aren't thinking around here and you don't want to steal i wouldn't want i wouldn't want my child to be raised in hollywood by hollywood i now you know early in my career i was like no i would never want my kids if i have them doing what i do i've completely turned to 180 on that um i would love if my kids got into the industry that i'm in it's been great to me i've met some of the most creative awesome people in my life but there's a time i wouldn't want them to go find out who they are in a hollywood in the hollywood game by being an actor or that kind of story tell your own i want to know their own story first before they're going to go tell someone else's story yeah i've likened it to like almost like a chemical process like if you want to make epoxy you have to add a bunch of different ingredients and if you don't add the ingredients while you're mixing it up it'll never be sure it'll never really firm up it'll never be complete and i feel like that's one of the things that happens to a lot of child actors like the experience of people not knowing who you are you have to earn their respect you have to earn their love earn their friendship prove yourself not have people love you before you even meet them that's just that seems toxic for children it just seems crazy i think it is highly toxic yeah you know we started off the conversation on this topic 10 minutes ago not many have recovered no not many from that the insecurity the lack of knowing who they are the lack of talk about resistance you know hollywood's a place of yes yes of course you can be whatever you want it's halloween every day now wait a minute if you're playing dress-up every day and you have the option to be whoever the heck you want and you know you want to go to the club all night uh you can do that too everything's a yes in those infinite yeses you can get lost and not found um yeah i think they you know you got to have some structure and like i said i went out at 22 23 i don't think i was ready to go out there before i went out there because i had a sense if i didn't as much as i had a sense of who i was i had a very clear sense of who i was not um and that helped me because i was able to see some things and be invited to some things and be around some place so i was like you know what this is a stop not a stay for me this isn't really going to feed me and it really turned me on this is a short term uh um you know something i'm getting that's feeding me in the short term but this isn't gonna last is it really who i am yeah i've i've talked to a few child stars that sort of got like miley cyrus is one that i talked to recently and you know you see it in the conversation when she's describing what it was like to grow up famous and it's it's a very difficult path and i don't you know i think jody foster ron howard there's a few that have gotten through it someone should actually sit down with those folks and try to figure out what's the common denominator like how did they do it science there'd be some great signs of how they did it you know i a story about i had a teaching tool that had to do with something i i pulled off in hollywood from for my kids and i'm big on delayed gratification um and you know after i won the the oscar for best actor my kids were like what'd you get the trophy for and i said well you remember a year and a half ago we were in new orleans pop i would go away you'd wake up in the morning i was already at work and i'd come home and have dinner with y'all and tuck you in and you wake up the next morning i was gone again and remember you said i look like a giraffe because i was so skinny yeah and i go well what i was doing for those 30 days when i was gone all day a year and a half later somebody said deemed that excellent work and they gave me a trophy for that work what i did a year and a half ago and i remember i saw them click they were like oh oh our future is a compounding interest you know what i mean we can ask oh there you can build you can't do something today and get rewarded tomorrow um and it was it was an example that worked for them um of understanding you know that you can that you can get you can invest and make choices to engineer more roi you know i know that was a milestone for you and obviously you won the oscar for it but there's something about these physical transformation roles when when an actor does something where you realize like they're they're literally torturing themselves i mean when you would how would you get down to how much did you weigh i weighed 135 and look you know this i was not torturing myself i was militant the hardest part was making the damn choice it was my responsibility if i looked like i do now playing ron woodruff in dallas buyers club you are out of the movie the first frame oh [ __ ] he doesn't he's not stage 4 hiv i'm out what's my job i had to lose the weight once i made my mind up i did the smart thing i gave myself five months i got on a diet where i'd have my tapioca pudding or whatever three eggs in the egg whites in the morning five ounces of fish cup of vegetables for lunch five ounce fish cup of vegetables for dinner as much wine as i wanted to drink and i lost 2.5 pounds a week like clockwork no exercise as much wine as you wanted to drink much as a one how does it eat what kind of diet is this it worked 2.5 pounds and it didn't matter if i was going to the treadmill and burning 2 000 calories a day or not 2.5 pounds a week clockwork and what happened during that time this is another reason that i really didn't torture myself and people say oh my gosh it's been so hard i was like no what i learned from it that the body is more resilient than we give it credit for i the power i lost from the neck down equally or more so sublimated to the neck up i was so my mental game was so acute and so on point i was clinically smart it didn't matter if i drank my wine until one in the morning at 4 30 a.m no alarm clock bang i was up every morning had incredible amount of mental energy i had no leverage from my neck down i mean my knees i had no insulation anywhere you know my body would hurt when i tried to run 10 feet but from here up there's some things i actually miss about it what do you think what was the process like why did your brain work better when you were starving yourself i think because it wasn't relying on i think on a cellular level i felt my body going hey he's a baseball term you got people over there on the bench in the dugout then you got people out in the field that are you know sitting in the uh in the bullpen not working out on a cellular level cellularly my salesman that were in the dugout and over there in the bullpen had to get up and go whoa we're not getting fed but we used to get fed we gotta we gotta exercise here we gotta come too but hut um because the my body's not getting we're not getting what we used to get um we're not placated by what we used to get our insulation's gone our our or what we're relying on is go what we used to rely on is gone so i think my whole body woke up and my brain got really super super sharp on that as well so i think it was the going without the there was a bit of a it was what i went without that sharpened up and made my brain on the cellular level much more hungry what do you weigh normally 188 jesus christ so you lost 50 pounds yeah there's roles where guys do this where it defines their career in something like robert de niro when he gained weight for raging bull uh christian bale when he did uh the machinist yeah yeah the there's these these roles where a guy or a woman just transform charlie's throne when she played monster they they transform their body and it's it's like a it's a different level of of commitment and when you entered into that film that was this the first time you'd ever had to do that yeah first time ever had to do it i mean you you got jacked for that uh well i don't know how jacked you were before for that dragon movie i'm sorry i forget the name yeah yeah reign of fire bringing the fight i [ __ ] love that movie yeah that was a great baby god miss van zandt it was a great movie talk about a guy who was about no [ __ ] boy that was a sobering character i i miss that guy yeah it was a fun character but you were jacked in that movie were you jacked normally or did you have to get jacked for that movie i got more jacked for that look our family my dad we we come from um our anatomy and the mcconaughey's have a big tricep my dad you see you'll love this i'd be sitting there as a kid um and my dad was a big guy 6'4 265 you know he played kentucky under bear bryant got drafted by the green bay packers he was a big bear of a man and he comes in the living room one night and i'm in front of the tv watching my favorite show incredible hulk and there's luke rick and i'm like standing in front of the tv doing all this he goes boy what you doing i was like dad look at him man i mean he's got these baseball sized biceps look at him wow and he goes uh-huh and he takes off his shirt and he goes let me tell you something son he goes that right there he pulled his bicep he goes that's nice makes the girl scream you know it's for show he goes that right there he goes that's the work muscle that's the one that puts the roof over our head that's for dough show and dough the triceps were for dough so i had big triceps so when i went worked out and if i take a little bit of creatine my triceps go bananas so that was a minor transformation it wasn't that difficult to do no it was it was minor there's a lot a lot of boxing and uh um and and and just some nice you know throwing some weight around you just got fit but for dallas buyers club yeah i always try to stay within 10 pounds of striking weight of whatever i need to do for the roll was it hard to make the decision to do that for dallas buyers club though because that was a giant transformation i mean it wasn't hard i was looking for something to be all consumed with something to be obsessed with a singular obsession you know this is my job so my life revolved around that my wife made me meals trust me i didn't go to pizza hut and say no thank you to the pizza i'll have a salad i did not even put myself in front of temptations i was a hermit i stayed in my wife made me the meals and and i studied and wrote and created the character all day long and i never got tired of that so my world was i was in a bubble i just put myself in a bubble for for five and a half months and that commitment to put myself on that island to know that this is it's good to have the singular obsession you you cannot go far enough mcconaughey that was there's a freedom in that there's a freedom i've always found a being having having a character that can commit that much to you cannot go far enough that that was your thought process yeah i knew when i got down to 135 i was like oh okay that's good and mind you we'll tell you this when i started to eat more at 135 to say let's slow this train down and quit losing weight my body had already got the message and had its blinders on that we're going south and it kept going south so that was a bit scary because i kept losing the weight because my body had gotten already gotten in the in the rhythm of losing weight and like i said it turned a blind eye on getting any more food so there was a tough transition there for about two weeks to get my weight to balance out again and say let's just hold at 135. so you drop below 135 at one point in time just went below with 135 got down about 132 and then brought it back up now how long did it take for you to physically recover from something like that were you back to normal man i'm still recovering really because i thought that i thought that when i saw you in that film i told my wife i remember saying this like this is gonna take a long time for him to bounce back because i know how hard it is for guys to cut weight for fights and i i know a lot of guys that have really depleted their body doing that and when i saw you that gaunt and skinny i was like he's eating his body your body ate itself it's the only way yeah i look i came back and i did true detective after that and i got on true detective i got to about 167 and held and i loved that weight as well because i had a little more leverage i had a little more athletic ability a little more insulation around my joints but i was still pretty stripped and ripped um slowly coming back from that i did learn this i had to come back very slowly because i had heard stories about people that go well now i'm back now i'm going to gain weight i can eat as much as i want and that you can you can grow back and look deformed you can your features can come back if you rush it they can come back in odd ways so i very slowly put the weight back on i then did a roll a few years ago i guess it was about four three three years after dallas fire stopped where i put on 47 pounds so i was 220 what was that which it had a lot more gold it's called gold it's a hell of a lot more fun to put that weight on than to take it off where i was just cheeseburger king and my family loved me in that role because i was captain fun i was yes to everything milkshakes for breakfast you got it let's go now that was i've never talked about at that time i was still mentally sharp not as sharp as i was when i was down at 135 but at 2 20 libido was through the roof i couldn't get i couldn't catch a cold if i swam in the damn canals of amsterdam man i was like the abominable snowman i was insulated um and had great energy um during that time now coming back from that i still got a couple things on my back here around the way so i'm like where'd that come that came up with that rolling gold and what's that still doing hanging around you know so i did have to come back slowly um but i will say this you know 188 since then that's my fighting weight before i look a little different than the 188 before then before dallas buyers club it's a different 188. so it did take a physical toll sure i would say you know even you know neck and things like that you know neck and and you know bone structure is the same but where and now but then how much of this is just getting older too and having less fat cells right i'm not sure um but yeah it didn't hurt like i said i think i stretched my body i i noticed when you know when i got down to that weight at 135 if i you know tried to sprint 10 10 yards and i just my knees would buckle i had no insulation and these hurt yeah i watched it again recently just to kind of get it into my head and that's when i was thinking like this is going to take a while to bounce back from like i almost forgot how gaunt you got it it was it was striking you know and that's a [ __ ] crazy commitment man you drinking moonshine what are you doing there what is this some kombucha oh it was not neither that or whiskey a few hours okay yeah your kombucha guy i love that stuff daily i do too yeah that'll that's great for the immune system um when you look at a role like a role like dallas buyers club or something like that like what makes you choose a role does it just have to resonate with you is it who's involved who the directors are the producers the the other actors that are committed to it like what what makes you decide this is interstellar let's do it all right well first what's the pedigree of the people around me the director the script uh the producers are are they excellent are they right for the story um i do look at that but the main thing i look at is like this character um the last 12 years i've been able to choose characters that's that made me shake in my boots the right way you know that good kind of scared where you're like oh i don't know what the hell i'm gonna do with this but i can't wait to find out um i like characters where the decisions are really going to cost them where there's consequences with every single scene that they're in and the the favorite consequences to have are something like a ron woodruff it's life or death consequences something like a van zann how can i remain from getting becoming extinct you know those are great okay we brought it down to the bare necessities um how to survive or how to stay alive um from that place then i can then i can give my all now choosing roles where i'm not going to have any compression from the ceiling to the basement of the emotions i want to give no one's going to tell me oh you can't be that angry oh no one's going to tell me you can't be that sad you can't cry that hard no one's going to tell me you can't laugh that hard no one's going to tell me you can't hurt that bad i don't like to be i've been enjoying choosing roles that have a really high ceiling and a limitless ceiling in a limitless baits basement to where i matthew can can go as deep or as high as i want to with them there's a lot of roles that i've done in my career for instance like with romantic comedies where those emotions are compressed for a reason the ceiling you can't laugh that loud you can't love that hard you can't get that pissed off you'll sink the ship of those movies they die built for buoyancy i've been enjoying the dramatic roles and that's what i love about drama is that no it's to the individual actor your ceiling of how much you want to love or your basement or how much you want to hate go for it um there is no there is no limit on either one of those that's the kind of role that really has been turning me on and that makes me feel like i'm having an experience in the making of the movie in the architecture of the character rather than just going and doing a job and getting a paycheck during the quarantine the lockdown my family and i had movie night basically every night especially when the kids were uh doing zoom classes because you know it just it was we had to do something different so we mixed it up and we watched contact again and i haven't seen contact in forever and uh first of all god damn what a good movie that was good that's a good movie and a a great movie about aliens like like a a movie that it gives you a different perspective on the possibilities of contact and and just the fact that it was a carl sagan book and there's just so much good to it that character that you played was uh as a fascinating guy and i i kind of feel like there's some of you in that guy sure i mean you are you you are am i wrong here you are religious in some way yeah yeah absolutely and i want to i want to bring this up in this day and age when people go no i'm not religious i'm only spiritual you know what the latin root of religion is re lagare and lagare means to bind together re means again well in a world that's saying i'm only spiritual because i want unity that's exactly what religion means we've bastardized the meaning of it over time and we've excluded people and we've corporatized and such but yes i am religious um that character you know i had written stories i'd written a college paper called john wayne goes west and it was about how do you how do you how can you be a believer in a world of science and i remember writing things like during the make of that movie like science is the practical pursuit of god um the two are not exclusive they dance together there they they go together um belief in science and i never saw those as contradictions and that's part of what the reason i attacked that role and became part of that that movie i wanted to play a person that had that point of view of a believer in a world of science not at the exclusion of science and not at the exclusion of belief yeah it's a confusing role for a lot of people if someone is a believer and also a proponent of science because they want to know what are your literal beliefs like d are you taking the bible at its literal word or do you use it as some sort of a guidebook of the experiences of these people that live thousands of years ago that have been translated from multiple different languages back to english and is there wisdom in those translations is there wisdom in those original thoughts these thousands of years of people contemplating and and mulling on these things and that so many have used these as a scaffolding for morals and ethics and for societies yep a it's it's it's i mean you know for people that go oh it's it's it's it's it's a it's a circus book or people had no non-believers and i'm like well it's still the the best one going um there's a lot of great truths that that come out of the bible and it is open for a lot of people it has been interpreted and reinterpreted it has been translated it's been handed down um i for myself i don't know what to do in my daily life with the burning push i don't know what to do with that um i do know what to do with love your neighbor like yourself i do know what to do with matthew 6 22 if they i be single that whole body will be full of light i do know what to do with some proverbs that i can take into daily practice and go oh i felt my life i felt improvement i felt success in my relationships and my relationship with the day with my career by following that um by treating others how i wanted to be treated the golden rule so i i take the practical stuff myself i mean try to try to utilize it and then pick out what can work for me when you say when you say you don't know what to do with the burning bush like what do you mean by that i don't know what to do on a daily basis with the teaching of um and and then he you know and then he he he showed up as a as a burning bush or the magic tricks and i don't know what to do with and jesus healed everyone that he and he couldn't walk and now he touched him and he can walk i don't know what to do with that i don't i don't know how to take that into my life and go oh there's something useful and practical and healthy for you matthew that you can practice there so the magic um that leans in towards you know what we would call now more fantasy i don't know what to do with that i there's there's philosophies there's proverbs and there's teachings that i think are very valid and very helpful um that we could all be reminded of that are in the bible that i do find quite useful yeah i think it's almost impossible to figure out what they were trying to say with a lot of the things that's why it's so it's open to interpretation but also open to manipulation and that's where people have a real problem with it when it's used for to to separate people to exclude people to marginalize people to judge people but it's it's hard for people that understand that those aspects and that those things happen to actually parse out that there's good about it too and that there's a lot of really valuable lessons in these books 100 percent um look i i get it i mean you you know it's like a what are our what are our fathers teach us is your father still alive well i don't really know him i have a complicated uh family history okay well fathers are father figures i have a stepfather he's still alive and i'm close to him well step father when he goes you'll find out some things where the messenger and the message weren't exactly in simpatico sure you know what i mean does that mean that you throw the messenger out because you're like oh [ __ ] you weren't following all that stuff no you take the message this is the stuff that you can that that could work for you that maybe they wanted it for you they couldn't follow through on it themselves there's certain parts of the bible that have that too you don't throw out the whole you can't think it makes any sense to throw out the whole book it's what we're doing in society now i mean we're we're we're making people persona non grata uh because of something they they they do or you know in in and that is that is right now deemed wrong or it's the hot point in a hot topic right now you can erase someone's entire existence where the heck does some forgiveness go and again that like optimism it's not erasing the crisis it's not saying there wasn't a problem first it's not saying that there's virgin parts of the bible that have been people have bastardized and used in the wrong way um but you don't throw the whole book out and say well it's all it's all bad then it's all used because it's false have you encountered difficulty expressing this uh in hollywood you know hollywood is uh predominantly left-wing and very secular or jewish in some circles but it's not like a place where christian fundamental values are espoused openly you know a lot a lot of jewish folks are in hollywood and that seems to be okay with a lot of people but some other religions particularly if you're a fundamentalist christian or if you have christian values a lot of people frowned upon that why why why do you think that is and have you had difficulties with that i don't know i haven't had difficulties i have had and i won't throw any people under the bus but i have had um moments where i was on stage receiving an award in front of my peers in hollywood and there were people in the crowd that i have prayed with before dinners many times and when i thank god i saw some of those people go to clap but then notice that [Laughter] bad thing on my resume and then sit back on their hands oh wow and i've seen people read the room and go whoa that wouldn't bode well for me in the future if for getting a job or you're getting votes or what have you um i have seen that i've witnessed that um i don't i don't judge him for it i just wish you know that that it seems like a silly argument there's it's a you know one of the things that our art are people some people in our industry not all of them but this there's some that go to the left so far as uh our friend jordan peterson who's back um saw his video being back that go to the irreliberal left side so far that is so condescending and patronizing to 50 of the world that need the empathy that the liberals have gives and should give um to to to to throw somebody's illegitimize them because they say they are a believer it's just so arrogant uh and in some ways hypocritical to me um yeah so i haven't run into you know i haven't headbutted trouble on that but i've always you look my my career i've pretty much gone my own my own path and by hooker by crook just trying to figure a way out into what i was doing and i haven't i haven't measured or noticed where it has harmed or gotten my way of what i wanted to achieve in in hollywood i think he slipped through the net he got further far enough down the river where it's not going to be a problem well kind of like when i you know like my mom when i first got famous you know it's a great story in the book um right when i got famous i'm trying to figure my own [ __ ] out right and then uh next night i get a call my buddy says hey you watching this i'm like what you guys turn on hard copy and there's my mom with a cameraman taking a guy through our house going this is where i caught him in bed with melissa [Laughter] you know what i got him doing in there oh don't worry about it it's no big deal i've seen it a thousand times and i'm going i call her up i'm like mom what did you do she's like what i go don't say what i can hear it and you're on the other than the line you're watching it too it's hard copy she's like oh i didn't think you'd find out [Laughter] eight years where my mom and i's relationship was strained i couldn't i didn't have a mother to talk to to share things with cause hell would show up on a hard copy the next night once my career got solidified enough you know well i i slipped through the net i was i was stable enough i went in and let go of the rain and said mom you go for it you can take the mic anytime you can hit that red carpet wear your short leather dress and talk whatever tell whatever stories you want to but again it took a while for me to feel stable enough to slip through the net and let her go be herself as well this thing you're talking about with uh people disparaging people for their opinions and their beliefs and their the the way they're living their life i think a lot of this is coming from this condensed way of impersonal communication that we're getting from social media i think it's this is so much of the way people are judging people and the way people are communicating with people one on one is how human beings are supposed to talk that's how we're supposed to work things out and when you look at a person's eyes and you experience their their feelings and you read their social cues that's how we communicate and that's how we work things out and hash things out and and figure each other out and maybe someone has a different set of beliefs than you but they happen to be your neighbor and you like them and you're like hey man tell me what's it like to be a sikh what what is it like to be a muslim what is it what are your beliefs as a a a quaker like what are you what what's going on in your life tell me i've i had a neighbor who was one of my favorite neighbors i've ever had he was a scientologist and he was a weird dude man but he was always friendly as hell i would go outside we'd have weird conversations about these things that he was doing and i just tried to figure him out and he'd try to figure me out we you know we always wave to each other we're always friendly i miss that guy but he uh he and i if we were talking online i'd be like you know if if i was a younger man and i was dumber and he said something about his belief and i thought that was stupid i'd probably say what kind of dumb [ __ ] is that you believe that nonsense written by a science fiction author but talking to the guy that that was never the way i talked to him when he and i were looking at each other we're just two neighbors trying to figure each other out and just trying to be friendly and have a harmonious neighborhood well it's one of the one of the things i i think you're going to like uh about your new home the city i think i mentioned this to you when i when i when i called you to say welcome you know one of the great things about austin texas is even though it's the the blueberry and tomato soup the the the more liberal city in the conservative state you can see neighbors next door to each other talking to each other and one has a trump sign in the yard the other one has a biden son in the yard they're still having a conversation no one's going sneaking out in the middle of the night to go rip that other person's sign out yeah um it's when austin is at its best it ha it has that you know i think that the you know and i've got young children they're starting to get we don't allow them on social media yet but you see these people you're living in a time where you put out something of yourself and your whole value of yourself is reliant on what the world out there strangers you don't know comment about that and if i put out a picture that i'm really happy excited about on instagram tonight and if i'm going to look what the reaction is and the majority says oh f hugh mcconaughey this all of a sudden i have a bad night i'm having a bad time but if you go the same picture and you go awesome and this consensus awesome all of a sudden you've controlled how i feel and i'm having a great night i'm in a great mood so we're at the we're sort of at the behest people of we're reacting that's that's kind of what we're doing more in this society we're reacting and you look at you know things that things that go on on issues right now it it everyone's reacting to to to things instead of it's instead of creating the story or having an opinion coming out of the gate um and hey i understand it to some extent because people getting you get hired and fired on those things these days yeah you know iron fired about you you're hired and fired or not hired because you don't have as many people following your whatever it is um that's a measure now of what we call success in this life you know or what's up at the top in america money and fame baby you got that you've made it in america you are successful we pat you on the back we give you respect i got nothing against money and fame i got money and i'm famous but that's not where my value system lies or what i'm what is the most important to me and what i'm trying to teach my kids there's a way to get that and if you can do it in a way to have your value system let's just play let's praise that um but it's tough because that's not what the world right now especially america rewards people for yeah i think there's a real issue with social media in particular with children in that we're just not designed for that we're not designed for that kind of communication and it's so easy to dismiss someone who's just text on a screen it's so easy to to to shut people down and it's you see people getting praised because they're famous and because they're wealthy i mean how much of what social media is for a lot of young kids is seeing famous people in front of lamborghinis with a million dollar watch on it's a bizarre posing ritual that people are doing it's very strange funny story about that i'm in miami southeast now mind you i really like miami because it's so obvious i mean in l.a people get like a boob job or a lip job or a calf shop and they try to say no it's all natural in miami they go i just got my calf job i just got a boob job hold up hold up calf jobs how many people are getting calf jobs no guys will go get a calf implant is that real that's still happening and in miami they're proud they're showing you like they're out there's no shame in that there's no embarrassment i'm not getting that all right i'm in miami making a film and it was the beach bum and i'm walking along the beach and there's this guy unbuttoned silk shirt got his gold chains on he's all greased up and he's leaning against his purple lamborghini and he's got somebody taking pictures of him and i'm just saying like what's going on he's got the palm trees in the back and the ocean so i asked him i said what are you doing and he goes oh man i'm getting this picture taken from my tinder page man just out there in the next 20 minutes two other guys came by and i ask i go is that your lamborghini because no no i just rented it for the day for my tender page pick two guys walk by in the next 20 minutes and paid him 50 bucks to lean against his purple rented lamborghini to get their tinder page picked oh my god i wonder if it works it's kind of work it's got to work on someone any and he got his you know got his rent paid for for his purple lamborghini yeah well miami you should have a passport to go there it's uh it's barely america it's a lot of fun it's a great place as a lovely city i love visiting there but uh i i don't think i could ever live there i go to miami and i just go you guys are [ __ ] out of control it's the only place um before i was doing my last netflix special i was using these yonder bags and what a yonder bag is is you have to put your cell phone in the bag when you go in there so you can't film the show or you can't talk on it and the idea is that the people won't be distracted because their cell phone will be in this magnetic pouch you have it you have possession of your phone nobody's taking your phone but when you want to leave or use the phone like someone someone's going to call you maybe you've got a babysitter you can go outside they'll open the pouch up and then you can use your phone okay most shows i did this i did shows all over the country the show's people were more attentive they sat down they didn't get distracted by their phone and they just listened in miami all they did was get up and go outside so the whole show the [ __ ] show's like an hour and 45 minutes it's just people getting up and going out and coming back and getting up and coming back and getting up and coming back it was like people were constantly going back and forth i don't know if they're doing coke or if they're just part but they were they the idea of how not having their phone with them they're like what what the [ __ ] i need my phone they're so distracted so chaotic it was a lot of fun though i'm not even complaining where the mannequins even the mannequins have fake boobs it's true it's true it is true if you go to a department store the man the mannequins have giant fake boobs yeah because look the girls that want to buy those clothes also have fake boobs they don't want some weird natural body like how am i gonna know what it's gonna look like on me and again i'm not [ __ ] not miami i love it here i love it yeah rather but i always said if you want to starve to death open up a bookstore in miami hey nobody buying books there nobody's buying green lights they might get the audiobook and listen to it when they're on the treadmill but it's it's a wild place and and that show that i did the shows that i did down there they were fun i had a great time the audiences were great they were they laughed hard but they were just all over the place just up and down and back and up and back and coming back and sitting down excuse me pardon me up more people i'm like you guys are out of [ __ ] control yeah yeah it's it's a it's an obvious place have you ever seen the documentaries cocaine cowboys yes well that's all the whole cult like how it all got started down there well the craziness let's those cooking cowboys one and two of my all-time favorite documentaries just miami's got a wild [ __ ] history yep it does and stories like that make great films though because there's some there's there's real live stories about this country in particular but this world in general that you know like scarface or something like that we're just like this is kind of based on reality you know it's one of the beautiful things about a film is that a film like scarface will make you look into that like well how much of this is real did they really do that oh yeah they really did send over prisoners and release prisoners and send them to america and they really did have hundreds and thousands of murders and gun violence all over the streets and cocaine everywhere and that's real that was real yeah and it was happening well that that's you know the best it's always said you know truth changer stranger than fiction but yeah i mean i i one of the one of the words i have a page in the book about my least favorite word in the english language being unbelievable um no it's all pretty dog unbelievable and and you see it happening like yup wow i didn't think that was possible well damn sure was and it's usually stranger than any hollywood script could make it or more exciting yeah i say unbelievable too often and it's sort of a placeholder word for holy [ __ ] right you know unbelievable but i it is believable yeah for sure i mean you have to be pretty odd in this day and age to be unbelievable i don't remember the last thing i saw that was unbelievable or whether it was like are you [ __ ] kidding me um i'm like you know boy there's one thing you can depend on people being its people yeah well so in your life right now when you know you've had this incredibly successful career and you i assume you're still writing down these lists of things to do when you when you look at like what you would like to accomplish i mean you've accomplished so much in the world of acting and filmmaking is there something out there that really is a a goal or a thought that's sticking in your mind or something you haven't done yet yeah um one of the things i got to do that's at the top of the list is do my best to shepherd three young children through this life so they can go off and be independent and autonomous and hopefully competent young individuals that's that's priority number one but personally um there's a there's a role that i've created and assumed for myself called the minister of culture um and it's about finding a shared competent value system and it's something that i'm gonna initialize it hopefully right there in austin um values as far as i can tell are the the common denominator that they're they've always been cool there's ones that we can agree on they work then they work now they will not go out of style we're in such a time right now where our social contracts are so broken and they're broken with ourselves as well we don't have expectations of each other or of ourselves it's kind of anarchic a nation divided and in austin in particular as a very popular and fast growing city um it's changing a lot and uh you know if austin is a city it starts to consume more than it creates um starts to not be conscious with the with its money starts not to invest in itself if too many people come to austin from california where they come from and try to turn austin into why they left where they were coming from uh we're gonna look up in 10 years and go what the hell happened man and austin's got a lot of soul got a lot of soul and i think it lies in its values so this this sort of campaign movement that i want to push is reminding those of us from austin why we love it there austin's a place where nobody's too good everybody's good enough um and initiating and educating newcomers and saying hey here's who we are who is who we're not if you don't really want to abide by who we are and what we believe in make it a stop not a state keep on moving um but i i think austinites have earned that and i think newcomers uh will appreciate that um i want to look up in 10 years and be in austin be a city that's an example of a place that became a metropolis that held on to its soul um that you know the things you look at around town crime rate employment etc are still at numbers that are incredibly respectable um but we don't get don't get loose it's a very creative town you know and um like i said it's the blueberry in the in the in the red state but it's not an anarchic town it's not a dirty town it's not a sloppy town it's an innovative town it's a creative town and it's a young town um and you know i think we all know progress is not saying yes to every new thing uh progress is more about innovation but it's also relying on tried and true things that work have worked and will continue to work and i just want to remind us all the the certain values that we have in this is tonight and as individuals and you know where that goes from there if that goes outside of austin and through the united states is it's a scalable idea that i dream of that could go outside of the united states it could go worldwide in success um i like looking at cities and people looking at cities as individuals that have personalities and uh reminding the people so let's sell let's sell a city to the people that live in it sell austin to austinites and to people who are coming to it um that's that's that's my goal that's what i'm into right now that's the character that i'm inhabiting right now in my life that's not on the screen i'm one i'm wanting to say hey the big show is live life the recorder is always on and what's the story we're telling in life that's that's that's the character i want to play right now in my life outside of my family uh that's not on any kind of screen or any kind of capsule that's gonna be on your television screen it's just gonna if i pull it off it's gonna be something that i'm just living and doing and coming there's something about this town that's very unique and i i knew it for years i've been coming here doing stand up since the 90s but you know when the the pandemic hit and i decided to move here well i did have that feeling like boy a lot of californians are gonna move here how do we not [ __ ] it up and you and i had this very conversation like don't turn this into the place you left so what specifically do you think people need to not do to not do yeah well you're coming to texas because you got no taxes you're coming to austin because it's affluent it's happening you're coming for the people the food the swing it's happening it's a creative town it's alive it's young you got to pay a tithe ask what austin can do for you ask what you can do first and personalize the place man i mean give your tithe to the city um it is a place like i said that nobody's too good and everybody's good enough we don't run over people to get where we're going austin will open up their proverbial roller decks and you tell me if you've if you felt this with yourself quicker than any city i've ever been to as a newcomer oh yeah you want to go on some contacts here yeah i mean in some ways i'm like austin boyd you know you maybe could take more ownership of that ip but it gives it away it's very free and we trust it's a very trusting town and a town of second chances for people but don't take advantage of that freedom um understand that there's responsibility to the freedoms that we have that there we do have to earn it uh daily and don't just over leverage ourselves and spend because hey we're the most popular person in in school right now um don't get caught looking in the mirror at ourselves going oh aren't i great look at us we're number one we're popular uh-uh we uh we we still got boots on and we still pull them on and strap them on and get and get and get work done even though we're young and innovative in tech town we're still a a classic and you know it's accountability it's responsibility it's fairness to other to other people it's understanding where is austin idyllic and what is it really because in some ways i think of austin i'm finding out it's not as ideal as i think it is in my in my mind so i've got well i've got a listening tour and i talk about the diversity in austin and it is a international destination now talk about the you know the the the equality of austin you know the rule in austin has always been all you got to do is be yourself that's kind of the rule that's what's cool about austin not what you think you ought to be but just be yourself it doesn't matter if you're blue-haired short lesbian american indian cowboy sheriff whatever everyone's sitting at the same bar having a drink and no one's yelling about their place because if you you're yelling about hey i want to let you know how i'm different in austin austin's like going what were you yelling about we didn't really care that's one of the great things about austin at best it celebrates differences when austin is at its best austin's not trying to homogenize people to say hey we're all the same no we're not we're all very different and that's cool but we do have some social contracts amongst us we're a clean place we don't like cheating steel to get where we're going um we look ahead but we appreciate tradition at the same time we take care as much as we can of of our our natural beauties around here at the same time we're metropolis we're growing up now how can we grow up and wide and still grow deep that's what i want to lean into is what are the roots so we're not just again looking up in 10 years and going who do we become where did all these socialites come from you know yeah um one thing that's plaguing los angeles that i'm starting to see here is uh the homelessness intent form all over the city los angeles is out of control i mean it's bizarre that it hasn't been handled i mean i was just having a conversation with my friend brian about it before the show and he was telling me that in burbank they just shut that down they won't let it happen you can't just put up a tent somewhere i mean i'm an empathetic person and i think that you know all the people that are out there that are homeless that are down on their luck for whatever reason whether it's they've been abused or they're alcoholics or drug addicts or whatever it is they're all our brothers and sisters and i'm not a social engineer i don't know what the solution is to something like that but i know that it gets out of hand it's gotten out of if you go to venice my friend bridget sent me a video of her driving down venice and it's a mile of tents i mean a straight mile she got the phone out the window and it's just tense everywhere like it's it's crazy how does someone's how do you put a stop to that without being an [ __ ] how do you how do you maintain empathy and say hey you can't put a [ __ ] tent up on the sidewalk a great question and i don't know the answer um you said it earlier look a lot of these most of these people have a mental challenge or they've gotten drugs and so you know in austin we're you know putting something up in some some vacated hotels um i don't know to what extent that's that's working um you know i've got friends who have businesses downtown who who they've got homeless people camping out in front and if someone walks in they're they're getting berated by this person that's homeless that has this uh uh mental uh something mentally askew and they're not in their nugget i i don't i don't know um you can't eliminate the problem but how do you re you know this question of how do we rehabilitate is an ongoing question not just with homeless people you know it's it's it's it's you know with people that aren't that that don't have uh mental problems it's we have the question of of rehabilitation i mean and for those people i'm like well you have to be sincerely seeking retribution and and understand what you did wrong to get the chance to be forgiven and be and rehabilitate and get a second chance for the homeless people i think you know i mean i think if you're going to go to the how do we how do we get them more mentally stable or in and can we to what extent get them mental help um and not just keep picking them up and saying let's move them to this side of the curb and then well that curve got full let's move them to this side of the curb um and then you end up with a you know a shanty town or something um it's you know i think they're always going to be to some extent you know um there's going to be homeless there's always going to be some socioeconomic imbalance i don't think we're ever going to that's another thing that i think we have to as a people especially on the left have to realize this whole perfect equality amongst all of us and perfect justice i don't think that's a possible destination for anybody i think it's great to keep america is there's a constant chase to chasing a jet yes it's it's we never will get there and that's the point just keep chasing it try to have a little ascension in our in our journey going forward and a little bit of evolution but we're never gonna arrive at this utopian state where ta-da we did it it's it's it's it's the garden of eden before an apple was eaten you know it's not going to happen i don't believe um so i don't know i question how how the best way to rehabilitate situations and like the homeless one uh um all the time and i don't i don't know the answer i do if we can get them some mental help and then give somebody you know not just if we can make jails not just a holding cell i mean think about it if jails really worked once you've done your time you ought to be even money right yeah yeah you should be better you're not even money you're coming out with the scarlet scarlet letter on you and you're gonna have to work five times harder than the next guy to get that job um you know if you're an offender of such you're going to be found and located and they're going to share your location through through the city and you're going to find out um from your neighbor that you're moving in and you can understand the people going i don't want that somebody's living next door to me right well if rehabilitation worked it would be like well no it's okay because they did their stint it doesn't really work like that so it's a constant uh uh question i have about about how what's the best way to rehabilitate yeah no one seems to have an answer i mean it's uh everyone throws their hands up in the air and just keeps on moving just what do you i don't know you know one of the things you were talking about before jordan peterson talks about that equality of outcome is a terrible idea equality of opportunity is a fantastic idea the opportunity to succeed but the problem with equality of outcome is there's not equality of effort and it's one of the beautiful things about society is that you and this is what we're talking about before about reading your memoir and reading an autobiography of a successful person is realizing that there's work to be done there's things you have to do in order to to be this person that that people to admire and it doesn't come easy and some people aren't going to do that work and if they're not going to do that work they're not going to achieve that outcome and that's just life and you know and the equality of opportunity you know that's not even real because different people start off at different blocks in life they start off in different spots they start off with different challenges and and different physical attributes and and and physical problems everyone has their own hand of cards that you're dealt yeah but treating people equally and giving people the best possible chance that we can as a community and as a culture that's what we all strive for and the problem with the homeless situation and the problem with prisons it's a similar problem is that the downtrodden the people that have hit a bad spot in the game of life like what is our responsibility to them and if we are a community like there's only three of us and one of us is [ __ ] up we go hey let's help mike you know he's he's [ __ ] up let's let's tr try to bring mike into the fold and and give him some life lessons and and give him some love and hope that we can bring him back up to a point where a couple years from now we're looking back on this going hey look you used to be over there and now you're here and everything's great that's what we'd ultimately love but there's almost too many challenges and too many people and and everybody has their own problems so people throw their arms up their arms up in the air and they keep moving and these things don't seem to get better the prison population seems to increase homeless population especially during this pandemic has increased i don't have answers you know i really don't so it's i'm spinning my wheels as much as the next guy yeah yeah it's uh you know it's a question that's yet to be answered on many levels um before this time after the after this time you know that equal opportunity that's that would be the gig that would be there because then then you could measure because we are all born with different innate abilities and if we're fortunate enough to be in a position we go well i'm going to do what i'm good at and i'm going to work my backside off for it um and i'm going to get educated about i'm willing to put in the work america is a place that that's the american dream you could that's what they mean by the land of opportunity if you you should have the chance to pursue what you want to do and if you're willing to work for it and get educated on it you have an opportunity to make a life i understand there's not complete equal opportunity across the board i understand that i personally was born uh with different innate abilities than you or someone else i was also born with more opportunity more opportunities than a lot of people i was born into a two-parent family um that's one of our biggest diseases i think that we have in the states is that the the the the family unit breaks up sometimes too quickly uh too easily you know mom or dad jets uh if the going gets tough too quickly um so you know i i you know i was some would say symmetrically speaking i'm a good-looking guy so that's got me in doors that maybe it wouldn't have got other people into tried to do my best once i got in the door i'm not going to apologize for any opportunities i've had but i do understand that i've had opportunities that other people have not had i've created many on my own but i've also been introduced and met people who opened those doors for me that would not have been open for other people um yeah what do we what do we do with them i think there's a place and this is what i'm striving to get to and understand more and more none of us do a damn thing about anything unless it's personal intellectually we talk about it it makes sense but we really don't take action until it's trespassing on our walls and it's gonna affect me or you or my family that's when we go okay i'm gonna take action so i think whatever we do has got to be personal um the the the the choice that i'm making for my own selfish choice for me there's a place where there's a choice where that also is what's best for the most amount of people where the personal choice is also the best choice for the most amount of people i call it the egotistical utilitarian that's where the eye meets the we um that's that's where where what we want is what we need and what we need is actually what we want or what's best for us is best for the most amount of people where what where were the most we're actually the most selfish or we're the most selfish we're actually the most selfless that's the place where when i talk about like green lights there's a place to create green lights that are best for ourselves and others at the same time that's the honey hole i don't know exactly what that place is all the time but that's the place i think we could all be a little more conscious of of how we go about moving forward and making choices based on that austin seems to be of a manageable size as i was trying to describe this to one of my friends in l.a he's like what's so great about austin i was like first of all people aren't devalued because there's not too many of them there's a problem with when there's too many people then people become a nuisance there's too many of them austin doesn't have that problem so when i look at like the homelessness problem in austin like you know what this is not out of control yet this seems like you could still fix that like someone's got to realize that this could get out of hand and this is a thing that you can kind of you it's it's within the boundaries of resources to step in and manage this and now yes before it gets out yeah we look up in 10 years ago [ __ ] it's too late it's out of control like that yes yeah to just grow and and turn our backs on that not look at it and now all of a sudden it's out of hand and i don't know what to do with it it happens quick it happens quick venice two years ago was not this there was a few tents every you know here and there you'd see tents now it's [ __ ] bonkers and i would i i mean obviously you're dealing with a much larger population in california but this this place is special i mean it really is there's there's it's it's it's a great size and the people here are really exceptional it's it does have a personality it has a very unique like a mixture of cowboys and hippies it's a weird spot you know and it's that melting blending of all these different types of people here has made it very tolerant and very unique and the fact that there's university here and there's a lot of artistic people and musical people and creative people it's a real it's a real good spot and i'm happy to be here but i don't want to [ __ ] it up i hear you well there's a lot of you know there's there is a community in austin and austin at its best does come together and realize that it has an identity to move forward with to protect um and you're right it's not so big and i believe that it can grow and but it can grow while still having a sense of itself and its own identity in it to protect that identity and grow forward turn the page progress yes it's coming but also preserve the core dna of who we are we're no longer the little hippie town that just had some music in the capital and a university no we're dot com tech town we're banker town lawyer town international destination all those things that's fine but in that there's a there's a you know austin has i want to help define by listening to a lot of austinites as well what our constitution is in austin that's separate from anywhere else so this is something you're you're actively trying to do you said a minister of culture is this something you you have a thought in your head of how to how to do this yes i have a shared values campaign that i've put together um and i want to sort of advertise and sell austin to austin all around austin and it's just sort of sort of uh value-based aspirational messages just to remind us who we are to to keep the community as tight as possible to form expectations and solidify expectations amongst ourselves um so if someone acts outside of those they're noticed and they're kind of nudged back it's another thing austin does very well austin austin i don't know how it is now um since we've had like uh the the protests with black lives matter and stuff but austin used to be um there was a great relationship with the police force not just with me with seeing matthew mcconaughey walk down the street with john and jane doe you gonna crawl you know you went jay walking across sixth street they caught you before and like nudged you over and said hey don't do it before they gave you the ticket there was a there was a play of like they were part of the community they could they felt like you know you give them a wave you didn't see a cop in austin go oh [ __ ] you you saw when you waved and if you they weren't looking uh you never felt like they were looking to get you um crime was low you know so we'll see how that relationship has to be worked on in the city of austin um right now you know quite a bit yeah what were your thoughts when the the whole idea to defund the police came to fruition well let's break that down one defund the police that moniker if you if you wanted to to say it's almost like it should have been renamed because defunding police does not sound anything like there's been money reallocated to different areas of handling some police exercise it sounds like you got a million we're taking 300 000 good luck yeah um and that's not exactly what it is to be fair um i the community and the police and not just in austin but all over and i think they are doing this in miami to bring up miami need to get back together and the community needs to say here's what's unfair here's how here's how i feel unfair as a black man or a person of color or or whatever whatever situation here's here's here's my problem with my relationship with you as cops well the police got to get clear to go okay our whole force isn't screwed up we have to have law and order do we all agree on that yes we can all agree on that we got a few bad apples that either need to be trained better um so we don't have those kind of bad apples or people or cops choking under under under on not and i mean the word as in fumbling at the goal line i don't mean literally joking i mean that that don't follow through on on on their duty in the right way when they're under that when they're under the gun under the heat of the moment that's what i mean there are cops that have done that so a few of these bad apples need to be removed but they also we need to make sure we're training them better now also the cops need to go to the community and go can y'all remember and understand our point of view that we're like the tow truck driver we're not called when there's good news we're called when it's bad news so we're coming in going looking for trouble all right so we're already under stress if we even get a call so can y'all help us in our way that we communicate can we get trust again that if a cop says hey stand still take your hands out of pocket hold him up yep i'm doing that that we're not going to be something's not going to happen to us uh um that shouldn't that there will be a a you know cause obviously the situation's like that you're not being called you're not in that situation when it's good news you know so everyone's already tensions are high but that's uh you know as far as the fun we're gonna see my we're gonna see if this reallocation of money like in austin and other places how that works i mean my first gut instinct was i don't see how that repairs the relationship between the community and the police force i don't see how that's that's coming together it it it's i don't see how that's gonna rehabilitate that relationship um and now you have spite on on on both sides um again we're going to see i don't know if we really had a bird in hand when we made the change do we have we practiced these other have we seen these other forms where the reallocated money goes to for 911 calls and stuff we've seen these other forms work have we seen them be improvements i don't know um so hopefully we'll see if this is just sort of guinea pig in the idea we'll see how it works but um i i'm i'm more for saying okay instead of taking away your money and your funds which you could use to train better and uh work on the relationship of what your what your job is and what you expect and what communities expect from you i'd rather have done that than pull money from them so we're going to see how this experiment goes yeah i couldn't agree more i think they need training they need more training and more understanding and i think we all need to understand that there's a tremendous amount of these people that are under insane stress every day and they probably have massive ptsd and you know if you're every time you're pulling somebody over you're worried about getting shot every time you're visiting someone's apartment for a domestic abuse case you're worried you're going to get killed you're going to see someone killed you've seen murders and deaths and the human mind is not designed to deal with that kind of stress day in and day out and a lot of these people are you know when you see these horrible reactions that cops have to situations where they do completely overstep their boundaries and and abused people yeah i think a lot of those people are really [ __ ] up by the time they get to that point and i don't yeah a lot of people were [ __ ] up before that's right or they got where before they even became a cop or they became a cop for the right reason uh they had pro personal problems and we need to filter those people out and that also comes through training the same kind of training that they filter people out through the military you know when you want to be a navy seal you got to go through buds and good luck if you have a lot of character flaws you're not going to make it you they will be exposed and i think that counseling and and training and then communication with the community is what we need we don't need to defund them it seems like a popular social sentiment that people are are repeating because it puts you in this ideology of a person who cares and is progressive but i don't think it's ever been fleshed out i don't think people have thought it out in the long term and if you're looking at the consequences of how this is playing out in new york city homicides are up by hundreds of percent burglaries armed robberies everything's up it's not good the the defunding of the police has been horrible for new york city the the consequences have been the exact opposite would everybody hoped they'd be right and i'm worried about that here as well but governor abbott has stepped in and said he's going to put a stop to that which is uh you know there's talk about not giving the the the towns that do this they're not going to have access to property taxes and this is you know obviously there's no income tax in austin in in in in the state of texas so the governor supposedly stepped in and going to iron this out so i'm hoping it works out and cooler heads will prevail me too i'm with you training and have more reverence for the job and understand they're called in when they're not called in when it's good news you know my my brother rooster has a real good interesting take i think on like you know gun control um and texas is a big uh right to carry state and a gun a gun state um but he brought up the samurai sword how there was a reverence for it and i remember how we were brought up you you you got your toy gun and then you got your daisy one pump and until you had mastered that like not turning and ever if you turned and even though it wasn't cocked if it was aimed at someone nope you got the gun taken away from you you know what i mean but you had to master the daisy gun first and then after years of that you moved up to the 22 and you had to master that and you had to make sure it was always unloaded and put back in the case you've got a reverence for this tool there's a long sort of initiation reverence before you could move up to a larger gun yeah we've lost a reverence for that tool and the samurai sword is a good example because there's a reverence for that you there's an initiation period to get to where you could have that right and and i think that'd be you know that's kind of one of the places where i lie with the uh that it's too easy uh to get to get a gun sometimes that there that there should be that background check which goes back into when we're talking about with police force background check training have a reverence for the job understand the expectations understand it's a high-stress job can you handle it let's learn how to handle it because they have to call audibles in the moment that our life audibles yeah and as we said get rid of the ones who can't because it is a hard job and hard jobs are not for everybody and i think that and that's that punishes the good cops when someone does a horrible thing like the george floyd case all those good cops who would never think about doing that ever in their life ever are lumped into the same category as that guy and i think that's awful yep i agree yeah um listen man i enjoy talking to you this is great i really do and i wish you luck with your book and i've loved your movies and uh i wish you nothing but success and and uh let's get together and break bread someday i look forward to it joe thanks man enjoy talking to you and i look forward to doing in person let's do it brother thank you thank you good luck with the book goodbye [Music] you

Channel: PowerfulJRE

Views: 4,131,741

Rating: 4.8789773 out of 5

Keywords: Joe Rogan Experience, JRE, Joe, Rogan, podcast, MMA, comedy, stand, up, funny, Freak, Party, JRE #1552, Joe Rogan, Matthew McConaughey, comedian, memoir, Greenlights

Id: BBCl9A9NlRw

Length: 111min 54sec (6714 seconds)

Published: Thu Oct 22 2020

Reddit Comments

[u/liftonjohn]

MUUUUUURRPH!!!!

[u/esparaeso]

Matt's schedule must be PACKED. Just in the last three days, he's been on Hot Ones, Pardon My Take, Howard Stern, Gary Vee, The Late Show, Graham Norton, Good Morning America, ESPN, Kelly & Ryan, and Tim Ferris. Wow.

E: Also WTF, Good Morning Australia, The Project, Danger Talk

[u/Semper_0FP]

Everyone's joking, but he's already made some well thought out points about the simple things in life that we often ignore. He's an interesting dude, I'll give this a full listen.

He's not an expert at much besides acting but everyone can learn from his experiences.

[u/brizzle126]

So is Redban filling in and then going to fill in so they can do Kanye tomorrow ? I saw he was in Austin on his Instagram...

[u/TheSpermWhoWon]

Damn when Joe said if you wanna starve to death open up a book store in Miami was one of the funnier things he’s said in 3 months.

[u/[deleted]]

Alright, Al right, El rmight, Elk meat.

[u/ReleaseTachankaElite]

Ngl id love to listen to these but the whole Skype thing just turns me off

[u/KingTyrionSolo]

Well, now I know what I’m gonna listen to on the ride home from work.

[u/myluckranout]

bummer. this could've been in person at the new JRE sex dungeon because McCawnawwuhhhheyyy also lives in Austin.