Davyd Farrell and Pam Gregory - Organic vs Inorganic

and hi everybody welcome to another episode of the wisdom hub tv interview series today i'm super excited about this interview i'm going to be talking to pam gregory astrologer for the next hour or so about some of the astrological movements and energies that we're all dealing with right now in the world around us and particularly some of the astrological aspects that might show us a way to work with these energies more effectively and also to give us maybe a little bit of a metronome to some of the things we might be experiencing so without further ado pam good afternoon and welcome to you i'm so pleased to be here chatting to you today it's a real joy to be with you david thanks so much for asking me really appreciate the opportunity thank you brilliant so um yes you know i just want to give a brief little introduction about how i came across your work really actually yourself and a couple of other astrologers really inspired me last year with your your presentations with the way you're talking about the energy and the movement of the planets and just you know giving certainly giving me a guide with which to navigate some of the more choppy waters that i encountered last year and you know sometimes as i share with my friends you know you can be having a bad day and you can know exactly what it is and other days you're having a bad day and you don't know what it is and so i kind of learned to sometimes look at my chart and go okay maybe that's why i'm not feeling so good today so i really want to thank you personally for inspiring me to go deeper into astrology over the last 12 months is something now that as my friends will say i've kind of got a little bit obsessed by um but but uh you know i just want to say thank you for that and i'm sure many of our listeners out there would probably agree with that and say the same thing so we're going to be focusing today on a topic which is very dear to my heart in many different ways and yourself too and many of our audience and we're going to be looking at the theme of organic versus inorganic the technology of the future and we're going to be looking at that particular topic through the filter of some of the big aspects and planetary movements that we've got over the next couple of years and in particular the one that's i think probably timing of everybody at the moment is saturn square uranus so maybe that's the place to start pan prep so you can lead us into that and tell us a little bit more about what's going on there yeah it's um it really is a clash of the old and the new because saturn is very much about the old order and uranus is futuristic very much towards the new order but what is very complex and multi-layered here that saturn the platinum the planet of the old is in the sign of aquarius the sign of the future and uranus the sign of the future is in the sign of taurus um which is to do with the way things have always been you know it's very connected to the past so this is multi-multi-leveled here i mean the good news in these battles between saturn and uranus is that uranus always wins because it's the furthest out planet it's to do with the future that is that is our future trajectory that's where we're going the past is a done deal you know as often say in the videos we're in a demolition site it's all crumbling behind us how well our government's working how well is the old order working not very so don't waste your time on on the focus on the memory of the past really define yourself on a vision of the future what you want to bring in and really i'd like to dwell in this whole theme of organic versus inorganic david even just on uranus in um in taurus because that is so rich there's so much to you know i could keep digging write an entire book on uranus in in taurus so just thinking about today and uranus is going to stay in taurus until 2026 because uranus has an 84 year orbit so it's slow it's going to stay in tourists until 2026. and if we think of the values of taurus it's a fixed earth sign it's traditional it's the simple natural rhythms of the earth it's slow it's like your grandfather used to use the horses to plow the fields everything is in harmony with nature biodynamic farming being aware of the cycles of the moon the moon is exalted in taurus interestingly enough this is about natural law where cycles are predictable stable reliable and organic could we all play traditional as well there do you think very much so very much so it's quite related to the past in that way but very natural very organic where everything was done in rhythm with the seasons and in harmony with nature whereas uranus is the kind of maverick it jumps you know jumps forwards in quantum leaps it wants to make everything efficient to industrialize to make it bigger to make it faster very connected to science it's an innovation make it modern make it futuristic and it's very interesting so i see this really as the clash between organic and potentially the inorganic but not always with uranus and i'll kind of come on to that or biology versus technology if you like um and it's interesting i mean uranus i want to talk about really three big expressions of taurus the first set of expressions is agriculture food supplies and cattle if you think of the glyph of taurus it even looks like a bulls horns and you know cattle actually that you know the the consumption of beef has dropped phenomenally uh dramatically since unassented taurus which is quite but anyway i'll come on to this so the first set of meanings i want to explore agriculture food supplies and systems and cattle the next expression of meaning is the human body and the next expression is the earth so let's just deal with agriculture food supplies and systems and cattle if we look at the last time uranus entered taurus that was in 1934 and one of the things that happened then in order to industrialize farming make it bigger make it faster make it more efficient in the us for instance they plowed up millions of acres of natural grassland including moisture retaining plants and to sow wheat and what happened quite quickly chemicals were introduced to make you know that even more efficient and it ended up in the dust bowls of the us for years and years where literally it was just dust nothing could be grown at all nothing would take root so that worked really well um and just this month the bbc had an article that i thought was very interesting for thinking of organic versus inorganic in australia they are tagging cattle think of taurus cattle with smart tags behind their ears like little matchbox these match boxes these smart towers are connected to satellites to gps systems and they will not only give the location of each cow but will monitor its health in every moment this is called precision farming and it's going to be huge business in the coming years so this is literally the expression of uranus in taurus melding technology innovation with agriculture tonight we are filming this on the 17th of march tonight um sees the end of a 10-week consultation in the uk when defra department of environment farming and rural affairs is is very probably going to lift a ban on gene editing in agricultural animals which would lead to genetically modified agricultural animals cows in particular also sheep presumably to in order to boost yields and protect against disease thinking pam that they were already going into this in america i saw that i read an article the two big food agencies in the us are literally squabbling over who gets the jurisdiction over genetically modified animals is that correct if you come across that yeah so here we have you know it's it i want to say it's a perfect expression very far from it's an exact expression of uranus in taurus you know so so these are the kind of things we can expect in or in order to industrialize farming um and also this may result in some disruptions in food supplies because uranus is an erratic energy it's not steady it's not linear it comes in jumps so because of the extreme earth events which is another expression of uranus and taurus like you know that huge um that terrible snowstorm series of snowstorms they had in texas recently that apparently wiped out all their winter crops and it cost the state 600 million dollars and i think it lasted about a week or so you know that was a weather expression of uranus and taurus but look at what it did to the food supply in that area as well so we should expect that so the shadow side of uranus is this kind of clinical technology where there's a sense of cutting off almost cutting off from the heart because in myth uranus was castrated by his son kronos who's saturn he was castrated and also emotionally he disowned his children uranus and descent so there was an emotional cutting off and a physical cutting off because he was castrated so you get this shadow side of cutting off now i see this in people's charts when the partner suddenly very savagely you know out of the blue cuts off that's how uranus works in an emotional sense but to me this is a cutting when it when it's in its shadow expression it's like a cutting off from divine intelligence in nature it's man knows better because man is ever so clever ever so smart ever so sophisticated way better than nature can ever do and again the shadow side of uranus is that it can produce a kind of androgyny this is true of aquarius as well and ultimately a sterility now people listening to this will understand this in many ways but here you know i'm just thinking in a limited sense of the agriculture in that it has some dangers let's say when it's operating in its shadow side and when things are rushed because uranus has this quick come on come on do it quick we'll make so much better by next month next year it'll all be fabulous jupiter is an expansive planet that's moving through aquarius ruled by uranus so let's make it even bigger and it's rushing through aquarius that fun break next bee and so this speediness you know we as individual humans have to take a breath step back and think hang on you know this is coming down the track faster than i can keep up with is this what i really want so our discernment right now is crucial and it's going can be very interesting i think when jupiter it'll be in pisces it moves into pisces i think on the 14th of may but it turns retrograde on the 20th of june and starts to backtrack over where it has been with that past time on the 20th of june i think it's 20th of june right so it's right around the summer solstice yes indeed isn't that interesting as well and of course saturn moving more slowly behind jupiter is the reality check you know picking up the steps or pieces after after jupiter so you know we are in a very fast moving interesting phase with all of this now if we turn to the human body i will give you a chance to speak a little bit if i keep going on this one yeah please i'm making notes and i mean there's so many questions if i go into the questions now we'd never get to the rest of what you got to say so i'm going to let you say all the things and then we'll pick apart the really interesting okay that's cool you you rock on pam okay so taurus is also the human body so how is is uranus operating in that context well i think some very obvious ways it's operating out there in the world that um i don't even need to go into but chips have already been made for instance for diabetics particularly diabetes type one which is so hard to regulate chips can be put in your body to help you regulate insulin so you don't go into these dives and into comas ships have been developed where paralyzed people are now learning to walk again which is miraculous and amazing but chips such as the neurolink by mr musk have been developed where what he wants to do with that is increase the rate faster faster increase the rate at which information can be transferred from your brain where the chip is to your computer and and back again and he's put this into the brains of monkeys who are now playing video games with their thoughts and if we go back to okay i feel like i might have hung out with some of those monkeys at some point so so if our test is ultimately gonna be does this honor divine intelligence then you have to decide in your individual discernment which of those examples honors divine intelligence which perhaps does not because i think that's the crucial crucial thing and with the human body even food produced in an inorganic way is that going to affect our body because ultimately what's fascinating here as well is uranus is very linked to electromagnetic frequency it's linked to electric city to magnetism and i think what's going to be a big deal going forward is the actual frequency of food can we feel the frequency of food because i used to shop in supermarkets haven't been into a supermarket for a year and i was already in buying my organic food in the supermarket feeling it was dead had it been irradiated to be in the supermarket i don't know but to me it felt dead so if it's processed you know and now i get my organic veggie veggies and fruit delivered um weekly with no packaging or any of that but curly and photography can see this we can take a photograph of curling photography of the aura of the cabbage and we can see that it's full of light it's full of biophotons because as we well know fruit and vegetables absorb light from the sun that's how they get their energy to grow and indeed you know i know a couple of breatharians who haven't eaten in years which is phenomenal they take their energy they don't go rather middle cabbage they take their energy and information directly from the sun through sun gazing so they don't need to eat which is just amazing but more and more i think we're going to become lighter less dense beings we're going to eat less we're going to eat more lightly we're going to eat more raw we're going to eat more organic but the the issue of the frequency of food and how we sense the frequency of food is going to be a big deal in our own you know discernment of our energy body and also of course taking the third expression of taurus as the earth we know the earth is upgrading at a huge rate if you may look at the human resonance spikes this week they've been crazy you know everybody is feeling this very strong energy and because the earth is upgrading as a result of all that photonic like gamma ray neutrino light coming in and we are sandwiched between the light and the earth we inevitably have to upgrade and i think more and more we are going to really get the principle that everything is energy everything is frequency and if you think of uranus as the planet of awakening the planet of electromagnetic energy the planet that symbolizes frequency it is also the planet that's linked to kundalini energy and the third eye oh interesting so just really like to drop this in that if we look at the best expression one of the best expressions of uranus in taurus it is for us to develop an inner technology where we can drop into our heart breath close our eyes imagine we're breathing in and out through our heart like a lung slow and deep not breathing still with our eyes closed look up to this third eye we start to activate the third eye i know you spent a lot of years in buddhist centers and retreat staff and you've probably got a thousand better ways to do it but even that simple way is activating an inner technology and i actually think that's one of the best possible expressions of uranus in taurus the inner technology the best of both worlds but we are at a huge fork in the road and going forwards and it's already starting to develop you know the way uranus is going to express also in the world in terms of new technology i think they're going to be very modern flashy places that that are opening up if you have your correct paperwork let me say on your app um and they'll be you know buzzy and led lights and mirrors and it'll be very metallic and exciting uranus exciting futuristic be wonderful and only certain people can go in there but there's a kind of sterility that that comes with that whereas if we think of the the taurus aspect of that that may be symbolized by you know the farmer shop down the road that's been going for generations and it's a bit shabby but it's full of fruit and vegetables that have light in them and you can feel the divine intelligence in that place and the people who work there myself i lived in the middle east for many years in the gulf states and and then i lived in india for a while afterwards and i kind of feel like you're describing the two experiences of living in those two places one very very shiny but quite sterile the other one a little bit scruffy around the edges but really really amazing food if you knew where to get it and so much heart and so much spirituality and so i kind of yeah there are places in the world that are already a bit like that and as you're talking it makes me think of some of these smart cities that are seemingly very much geared towards um a new green world but but somehow i feel have this kind of level of sterility possibly already factored in so i think it's an interesting dichotomy that we are looking at you know how do we measure progress how do we measure evolution uh and to me it comes down to this idea of technology but what kind of technology and this is what i was you know smiling about what you just said about the inner technology because it seems very obvious to me that there is an amazing technology available to all of us here in our higher mind but also outside mother earth is i think the most amazing intelligence and she offers so many different types of technology which is really why i wanted to do this interview with you today so perhaps we can loop back to uh the first point there about the agriculture the uh the cattle and the systems because you said some really interesting things um particularly around the production of food and the genetically modified animals potentially the chips and so on precision farming sounds on the one hand amazing on the other hand sounds really really sinister to me anyway it's just like well precision farming of what exactly you know is in the future um and so how do we start to practice discernment when when our options are becoming more limited you know because the frequency of food is as those of us who put our minds and attention into this is really important because we are what we eat absolutely and i i think i mean for for many people on a different fork in the road they may not be eating cattle anyway right of course yeah they may not be in that place so it's not a problem for them as it were but i think you just got to again dropping not so much the mind because the mind can deceive us dropping into the heart and saying does this feel right for me i use a pendulum a lot which is like an extension of your intuition other people use muscle testing or just get a sense of it in their body you know through swaying or whatever it is but just check in with your heart and you is this good for me is this good for me with every food you eat with every food you buy is this going to be for my highest good my highest light and my highest spiritual evolution or not would you also take that a step further to include the places where you potentially get uh you purchase or obtain your food from absolutely and i think you know very much and we had a chat about it in our pre-session david that because the aquarius has this grass roots up energy i know of several people now who are putting together communities based on new earth principles where they're buying land they're going to grit together they're going to grow their own food and they're going to be little hubs of light hubs of light studded across the world and they may link up with each other to swap vegetables or whatever but everything is going to come from the earth be natural be organic and honoring divine intelligence and that's the way society is going to be reborn with this big big fork in the road and i mean the choice is immense well it's actually very simple for you but i mean the the divide is immense the divide is bigger than we've ever known in our entire lifetimes because the bandwidth of frequency is wider than we've ever known so you know making these decisions is going to propel you on one fork in the road or the and that becomes absolutely life determining from that point on because it's getting wide you know the moment we might be able to we got on the wrong train at houston and we just about jump off and get on the other train that's also leaving the station but you can't jump you know 100 miles an hour from one train to another so the decisions we're making right now today here wherever you are in the world are going to determine which which path you take in that fork in the road absolutely and i guess many people out there who perhaps are new to some of this might think how did we get here in the first place you know even into the world of where we're at right now but if you've been paying attention this has been a long time coming and i think that many of the things that you're talking about i would imagine much of our audience and probably yours too would already have been factoring us into the way they're making decisions but for me discernment and actually this is the buddhist in me the the principle of ethics and morality and how we discern the provenance of our information of our food of our medicine even um you know maybe the circles that we move in it's like getting for me getting back to maybe this is four planets in scorpio but getting back to the essence of the truth of things is really important to me and i think as we move forward that's going to be an important motif for for many of society who are looking to perhaps change some of the things the challenges that we've faced over the last couple of decades in the world that have been going in a certain direction shall we say and it feels like this is an opportunity to perhaps recenter some of those things and say okay that wasn't working for some of us maybe now is an opportunity to look at things differently but to come back to this place of divine intelligence as our center point i think is really important yeah absolutely and so interesting what you say as well david because another expression of taurus um as well as food is that our value system so with uranus there every single one of us has had a radical change in our value system what doesn't matter any well stuff who's buying stuff he's buying clothes there's no way to go you know he was buying stuff so you know what we what we really value now is our relationships our friendships our you know people who are close to us and also that the food we're eating i mean for you i'm positive and for me also it has to be food that's grown with love and you know i'm a huge animal lover so i just couldn't i just couldn't eat a dead animal yeah i just couldn't do you know i just couldn't do it and i'm not preaching there that's just my particular value system but for many of us that value system is is changing really radically because society is changing in such a huge way yeah there's an interesting point you raised there actually which i think is worth bringing into this mix which is which is around uh being vegetarian not being vegetarian because there's a very strong energy at the moment that's creating uh vegan meat okay i've seen the whole counter in the supermarket it looks a bit strange and i've heard some very strange stories from friends who've seen videos about how some of this stuff is made um now i was vegetarian for a long time uh because of the same reasons as you however it didn't work for me it actually made me sick and my body i i hopefully i had good protein food i had a good diet i still have a good diet but i needed to a little bit of meat and so that actually radically altered my perception of dietary requirements for individuals and so i kind of like i had to have a really big shift because i was quite a moralistic vegetarian for a good number of years as some of my friends might like to remind me but but i also realize that in the end it's like we all have to make decisions that are based on what's good for us uh and so i kind of think as we move into this new uh new era vegetarianism seems to be a big part of the motif coming from a certain part of the political spectrum uh along with many other uh ideas which i i find a little bit challenging but i just wondered what how how you see that developing in this kind of motif do you think there is going to be a move away from um the need for humans in general to to eat meat i mean we're going a little bit into this topic but it's interesting because it's taurus and it's bovine and you know so there's been this whole thing about climate change has been blamed on cows i think a few times by some people so it's kind of an interesting kind of um filter through which to look at this but do you have anything you wish to say about that yeah absolutely because we expected um a radical shift in in um eating of cows eating of cattle with uranus moving into taurus and it's the figures have dropped incredibly of people stopping eating meat and becoming much more vegetarian but with regard to what you're saying david about the um the vegan meat that was produced kind of in a laboratory again and i'm back to how much light does it have in it initially i thought that was a wonderful idea because oh isn't that wonderful it saves animal cruelty and factory farming and isn't that great but then i come back to okay does it have light in it does it have divinity in it or has it just come out of a factory or a lab in which case i don't feel so good about because what's actually in it then that i'm taking into my body in every cell not sure not sure about that at all so but but generally i think people are going to be eating more lightly more plant-based more organic and less and less and less food as we go through to becoming we step back perhaps to step back into becoming galactic citizens which is where i really think we're headed we're just at the threshold of that right now i mean there's uh yeah there's so many things in that and like you i agree uh you know i'm sure i wouldn't have been the first vegetarian who wondered what exactly was in those vegetarian sausages i was eating it kind of tasted good but you were never really quite sure what the substance was and it was kind of uh positioned as being something of a like fungi base but i was never too sure and it did feel like it had been produced in the lab so i think that's a really kind of uh important point though about this kind of organic versus inorganic because it gets a bit blurred right you know many people will be totally in favor of the vegetarian world and and i certainly wouldn't have a problem with that either but i wouldn't want to be living in the vegetarian world with that kind of food so that makes me equally uncomfortable and also you know um this idea of tourists being traditional and looking at agriculture of the past now i'm not saying that we need to go back into the fields with the the old wooden tillers and you know i don't think that's necessarily what we're looking for but what i think could be really interesting is becoming much more in tune with old um heritage seeds and fruits of the lands that we live on that maybe have got forgotten in the excitement of having exotic overseas fruits and vegetables now i love my avocados but they're not a native plant to britain uh and i'm sure that we've got something equally tasty that perhaps has been forgotten over the last couple hundred years so do you see that uranus moving into tourists could be a sort of uh maybe new new plants new seeds appearing or maybe old ones reappearing absolutely this is very rich as well because what i think will be happening with this new light is that the the kind of fundamental how can i say this fundamental structure that we've known in nature like the fibonacci sequence the flower of life that is going to evolve to a higher level and we'll produce new species of plants and animals and fish and all the rest but the other answer to that that was in my head david is you may have heard me talk about these kuiper belt objects out in space beyond you know neptune and pluto many of the archetypes of those are extremely futuristic and galactic in that they are really seeing reality from a quantum point of view that you can create the jump you know you can instantly set your intention set your frequency and manifest like homir hermia goddess of fertility in in hawaii he was he who is very regenerative and able to birth babies from legs arms you know all over the place um but she also has in her archetype an ancient shamanic connection to the earth deep deep connection to the earth so de sedna who's way way out there and you know the um a lot of the archetypes of these kbos these kuiper belt objects are linked to the indigenous tribes like kwawa who the archetype is all about that we can sing and dance our our reality into being from a high frequency because singing and dancing take you to that high frequency and we manifest we sing and dance our reality into being all of them are linked to indigenous tribes that take us back to the ancient ways with the earth the shamanic understanding the harmony the listening to the earth not trashing it and exploiting it so we're going to be kind of going in two directions as i see it we're going to be leaping forward into a galactic understanding but equally we're going to be coming way back to love the earth at the same time and bring it on i say you know both of those and that's really again uranus and taurus isn't it uranus the galactic and taurus back to the earth again i mean for me from from my plant work what this speaks to me is is the oak tree so the oak is very traditional it's the king of these lands but it's also the uh the three doors in the jewish tradition so the roots into the earth deep into the earth strong centered held arms reaching up to the heavens reaching to the galactic frequencies but strong in ourselves in our trunk in the middle world and so this to me you know now that you're saying this it's like this to me it feels very much like the energy of the oak tree where we are encouraged to be self-sufficient and be masters of our own space but have so much uh mastery of our own space that we can invite others into our space and accommodate in the oaks case thousands of beings when it's branched it can even grow on trees in its branches so you know this this is the energy of the oak and and it's like it's it's really really old but it's also super futuristic because you can channel the high beams the frequencies in for its branches and yet the it's not quite as old as youtube but it's very very old right in terms of how long it's been here so this yeah sometimes when we think about the past it can feel a bit archaic right you know it's um oh people say oh you you all just luddite you just want to go back to some archaic time when it was all better and it's like yeah some part of me does want that but i'm not such a luddite that i'm not open to working with the technology that is available to us in the right ways and i think that that's to me a really important uh factor but you mentioned the quantum field and i think this is really interesting because to me this speaks of higher mind intelligence but also how we manifest this is how i understand the quantum field myself and my wife work as healers in the quantum field we're quantum psychic healers that's what we do and so we know how effective this can be if we are nice and clear in ourselves so perhaps you can talk a little bit more about that and how you see this developing and how we can develop ourselves or maybe pointers you'd like to point people you know in the direction of yeah absolutely and again we're back to uranus and taurus aren't we it's the frequency in in the body so when we're able to raise our frequent scene we can do that by singing dancing strong breath work yoga candle gazing medi you know all of those things that you and i i'm sure talk about all the time that we can raise our frequencies then we set a a very clear intention present tense for what we are already manifesting in our world and that is how we start to bring things into our reality and the synchronicities we meet the right person you know we we just read something that's the right place to go so these synchronicities start to pop up so it's no longer the 3d efforting pushing you've got to do a and b to get to c and you could do c to get none of that it's it's it's a jump and that's how we're going to start to manifest but equally i believe we are going to be developing as we've just been talking this deeper understanding of nature so we start to appreciate the richness of nature in a different in a much bigger way to get us to those high frequencies for instance sure you've read the book i think it's called i think it's called the spirit of plants and it's an amazing book about the different medicinal values of every single plant i've read lots of books about plant spirits and medicine so there could be any number of them i mean spirit healing that's one of the most well-known books my wife's also got a book coming out about plant spirit journey later this year on bear coast so for me on that tip uh the my path to working in my high mind has been through nature it's been through working with the plant beings the three beings the intelligence in nature helping them to clean me out tidy up my traumas create more space in the vessel so that those higher frequencies come it's very difficult to absorb higher frequencies when you're filled with rubbish you know baggage traumas etc so the process this is where i find the marrying of buddhism and plant work is very interesting because the plants bring the buddhist ideas to life but buddhism can be a little bit dry and they used to call um people dry logicians in buddhism with a little bit too in their heads too much lung energy too much too much energy stuck up here not enough in here and it's impossible to connect to nature up here you have to do it from here so this process of being present with nature brings us out of our monkey mind down into our heart where we can start to breathe and then we can start to communicate so i think this is really interesting because it feels it's it's the technology of the past our ancestors use this the druids absolutely nothing new so this is ancient technology but it's so futuristic at the same time and there's a beautiful a couple of things are coming into my mind here doug a good friend of mine very gifted lady called janet treloa who channels a wonderful being called zachariah she taught me how to really connect with trees she said firstly you have to ask the tree if you can approach it because trees are very polite and then you have to lean with your heart against the tree you may know all of this and and just make that connection start to feel the energy the heartbeat of the tree then ask the the tree to take from you anything you do not need and then for the tree to give you back anything which you you do need and each part of that process takes several minutes so the whole thing would take you know minimum 10 minutes or so but you start to develop a relationships with different trees that have different energies i'm sure this is bread and butter to you you know in lockdown maybe that's as good as it gets but but anyway but the other thing i want to say about how you really start to connect to these higher levels and this is a personal example because for about a year my crown chakra has been just on fire and i have a lovely gifted healer friend called sandy humby and she's taught me what to do with that to connect with a kind of rod of light up to the soul star to bring that column of light down through the body via your third eye your pineal your third eye down into the earth star and then expand that white column of light so you're squeezing out anything which you don't want from your aura and your your electromagnetic your aura then becomes coherent much bigger and you're shining out light to the world and i do that every day now to kind of pull this this kind of you know on fire crown chakra down through me but i'm also connecting to to above to whatever is coming in from the galactic sphere as well because uranus was the sky god right so he's coming from up there yeah i mean personally i've also experienced a lot of um i would say distortion to be honest across my third eye in the crown chakras have many of our students over the last um period of time over the last year or so and and there can be many reasons for that but i guess what's really interesting is once we know really clearly what's us and and perhaps what is something external we can get a little bit more adept at holding our space our energetic space better and whether it's practices like the one that you've just described or the heart entrainment with the tree there are many many different ways to get into those spaces but this to me is the steps towards the higher mind and becoming more energetically sovereign do you think that's part of the motive too yes i i completely do this is this is very interesting because it's it's having mastery over your own energy i think that's absolutely vital a step one because if you haven't got mastery over your own energy you know nothing will work properly your health your life etc if we're if we're scattered that's why it's great not to ever watch the news because anyway but but having said that having mastered our energy and we are each becoming more individual because uranus is so strong the aquarius energy is so strong we're going to be developing more of our unique talents equally the uranus and aquarius energy is about the power of the people then coming together in community because we know from all the massive evidence out there whether you look at dr joe dispenza lynn mctaggart whatever you know just 10 tons of evidence of the increased power of the energy and the intention when we come together with others in a group it could even be a group of six a group of a or a group of several thousand all coming together across the globe holding hands digitally and spiritually focused on a better world a new earth and making a difference so we're starting to pull that new earth into reality simply by expressing those higher frequency emotions of love joy gratitude appreciation all of that stuff and not knowing what the frequency match will be just trusting the laws of quantum physics that if that's what we're putting out we've got to get a frequency match back in in our reality so just you know hit your wagon to a star trust those high frequency energies muster your own energy um being and then meet up with others because that will really you know these times are massive that we're going through even for people who have some understand you know nobody's finding it's a breeze right now it's not a breeze it's tumultuous not meant to be either right it's meant to be a challenge this is this is the turning of a spiritual age and we i feel we are very blessed to have front row seats sometimes maybe the front row seats are getting pelted by the rotten tomatoes i wouldn't want it any other way you know i feel like i've waited a long time to be a part of this and you know i just a couple of things there that i just like to come back to because they really resonated first of all the idea of trust when we have absolute trust in the divine we drop into the flow the flow with the dow the flow of the river and we stopped worrying it's quite so much about outcomes and we you know i work a lot with um my magic and energy way the most appropriate i'm always asking for what is the most appropriate thing for me now so i don't place any expectation and so whatever turns up is the most appropriate thing so i can only ever be happy with that i can never be disappointed and since i started adopting that technique a few years ago it's taken a load of stress off my head so now i'm just like look you know i still have things i want to do still have plans to make etc etc but how i get there is less of a concern for me i just say okay this is a prayer that feels congruent i feel it in my body i give it to spirit and then i let go of it and i just carry on and then those sort of uranium bits drop in ah okay there you go i wasn't expecting that but hey that's exactly what i needed and so that leads me to the other point which is about the motif of the aquarian age moving on from what we're just talking about being energetically sovereign it feels to me that as we move into this process we went through her story of the hive mind the other world many many uh thousands of years ago we then had the patriarchal period of the last six thousand years his story and now i feel like we're moving into our story and so this next uh age for me i think is going to be our story and how to manage that though as sovereign beings where we can be self masters but then enter into a community where everybody is like that that to me feels like the the dream of the aquarian age is to be in community which is i understand it's a large part of aquarius but also how do we enter into those communities as completely self-sustainable self-sufficient individuals gosh i think it's just really i think it's just actually doing exactly what you've just said david it's so interesting when you were talking about kind of no attachment to the outcome of course we're back to uranus in taurus it's cutting off any attachment because you know taurus is quite attached it's fixed it's a fixed earth so it won't you know to hang on to what it's got don't you know don't rock the boat but uranus is saying no cut off you know just get into the flow of life at a higher level so i think it is just really as you say completely trusting that you have mastered that as a as a process that you just say okay for my highest good and the highest good of all let it fall where it may as long as it's for the highest good and highest good of all i say that before every chart session i do actually and i also say that the beginning of every day as well so then there's so many wonderful divine synchronicities have happened in my life you start to trust the process more once you get into that kind of flow that modality of living that way you just trust it more and more and more and just let everything that's been in your past go even if it's your home even if it's your an important relationship if it's not right for where you are energetically because everything will come down to the the frequency that you're at and the way people are coming together in community it is all about the frequency match and and you know if you're not on the same frequency match that community where won't come together don't hang together so that becomes the determining feature not how much money you've got or which geography are you currently in that's kind of irrelevant well i mean it's interesting i was watching uh a celebrity cookery program on television yesterday and the theme for that particular uh dish was holiday memories and the way that it was phrased is that we cling on to our holiday memories so tightly that we need to recreate them i'm like well i don't think i'd cling on to my holiday memories i i cherish them but i'm certainly not clinging on to them and trying to recreate them but this was how it was pitched to the people you know who had that task to do and i'm just like wow this is a very interesting narrative that we are being encouraged to cling on to things in the past that have already happened and we're trying to recreate them so you know it's kind of um for me personally clinging onto things doesn't really ever give you anything other than a sore back from carrying a lot of stuff yeah yeah totally and and the age you know if we really want to step into that higher path of the fork in the road we can't hang on to anything from the past you know it'll be like a ball and chain for us we just have to open up to the energy and it's you know it's the this is the the most tumultuous time of our lives but it's the biggest adventure of our lives energetically and spiritually it's the biggest adventure we've had in many many many lifetimes this is what we've waited for for thousands of years god i'm going really goosebumpy now so you know if this is it we can't muck it up we can't muck it up by saying no no i actually really need to stay with this person or this home or this job or whatever we just got to let it all go because you know if we truly believe in our frequency then we know something much much better is going to come down the road to replace it and the past will seem like dust almost like it didn't ever exist it will just dissolve and there's a process here and this is why i wanted to emphasize about the trust because you know when we have that trust it gives us the power and the bravery and the strength to let go and say okay you know what this is really painful really challenging but i i understand that i trust that maybe this needs to go now and it's interesting i haven't quite put the pieces together uranus and tourists in that sense but to me you know it makes perfect sense and of course in buddhism we're taught it's attachments and aversions that cause all suffering and i meditated length on that for a while as a student and i couldn't find anything that didn't fit that bill my aversion to something more or my attachment to those were the things that were causing me suffering in life and so interesting the final piece i'd like to talk about for the sort of the final five minutes is just to come back to point number three and the earth now i'm sure you're aware because i know that you're very aware of what's going on in the world but there's been a huge earthquake swarm in iceland right over the last two weeks yeah yeah in fact i think they were about 17 000 over a two week period i mean it was just insane because they do have a lot of earthquakes but it's it's been mega you know it's been way ahead of normal and you know the the earth is changing rapidly she can't experience or you know it's working on a physical level a cosmological level but also a spiritual level because the light is creating these these upgrades and if the the human resonance peaks it has to affect the earth it's affecting us we are connected to the earth we're not you know we've had this illusion that we've been separate and dominating off her but she's kind of groaning and protesting she's going through childbirth if you like or rebirth and so again the symbolism of uranus planet of earthquakes in taurus you're going to see a lot more earthquakes a lot more volcanoes a lot more extreme earth events as the earth gives birth again at a higher level she's raising her octave and she can't do that quietly or seamlessly so as she is cracking open as it were equally right we are cracking open to move to a high level i mean it's kind of like the seismic shifts in us and reflected by the seismic shifts in mother earth the seismic ship's motherf reflecting us because we are part of nature we are as humans we are part of the natural cycle and i think that that for me is the thing that's really been forgotten is so much separation sometimes through the technology that stops people people are experiencing nature through a computer screen it's like the nature's outside you have to go and take your socks off walk barefoot on the land breathe the clean air if you're lucky enough to live in wales like we do where we have mountain air and and for me this comes down to the organic versus you were going how are we experiencing reality are we experiencing it organically or are we experiencing it in organically and i guess this is a question that's going to run and run over the next few years but as we sort of come to our conclusion around this pam do you have anything you'd like to share as a message of hope i love what you said about the the groups of lights many of us have seen similar things in our journey work and our visions and many of my spiritual friends would say the same sort of a patchwork of light portals all over the planet sort of almost self-sustainable almost sovereign perhaps working in these ways with higher mind technology working with earth technology from the ground up to create sustainable ways of living that are not antiquated are totally futuristic but with a different type of technology is that something you'd like to expand on yeah it really is because it's happening now it's it's not that we've got to wait 10 years down there it's now i mean i'm in touch with about three or four groups and i know about half a dozen people who are doing this right now they're connecting with other people some of them have already bought land or a farm others are looking for it right now and they're connecting with their tribe and they're saying okay how do we get a separate water supply you know how do we come together to make this happen in a practical sense so it's not like this is a futuristic thing it's happening now and if it isn't happening for you yet set that intention i'm already easily finding people of similar frequency with whom i can start to build a community and geography doesn't really matter it'll just fall where it may so set that intention and very quickly online you'll be connecting i mean the great thing about uranus is the online bit but then we've got to make it real on the earth but it is happening now these you know i talked in a video a few months ago about i see i see green shoots coming through broken concrete and i'm really seeing i'm seeing the manifestations of the new earth people coming together saying no we do not want to live in this this mirrored steel um futuristic society we're gonna just duck out and and we want to experience nature physically with our hands and feet in the mud not virtually i mean when i have my morning walks in the forest i never take a phone with me ever i never take a phone with me when i go out at all actually i just never switch it on actually and it's a very conscious decision yeah my life is not about my mobile phone great i could chuck it in the bin or down the loop you know my life is not my mobile phone i have to use a computer but my grounding my grounding is absolutely the earth and i'm reaching for the stars and you know you mentioned a really important word there which of course is a big part of new moons and we also have equinox this weekend his intentions you know and this is again is the trust when we make those prayers if we make those prayers nice and clear and we send them in our ceremonies or with our heartfelt gratitude and then we let them go then it's amazing what can happen and i've seen this with wisdom hub recently you know um as an online community it's suddenly had a huge amount of interest a bit like yourself and your work i've seen over the last 12 months too because there's a there's a quality to it that's resonating with many people and now if people are looking to to come together in a certain way before i think there's too many distractions and 2020 really was the year of clear vision because it removed a lot of the distractions to see what was left i kind of think for me 2020 was a year of wormwood a woman is a plant i work with a lot but wormwood is really about stripping away everything until you get to the bare bones of the truth no matter how uncomfortable it is and then you have okay now i know what the truth is i can build outwards again and i feel 2020 was a bit like that for those of us that were paying attention so can you speak a little bit for the final few minutes about intentions and how to work with that through the astrology and maybe is saturday the equinox a good time to put out intentions really good really excellent time because you know for many astrologers myself included it really does begin with a big bell to chime the next 12 months it's the beginning of the astrological new year within the context of this new paradigm this new 200-year air paradigm of jupiter and saturn um moving through air sounds with their conjunctions so it's a really good time the way i use intention is always to use the present tense because if you say i want um you're pushing it away to the future the whole time so always present tense and make it easy so i am already easily finding my xyz you know xyz is easily already flowing to me i will find you know it it's present tense i am already easily finding my car keys i'm already easily finding a car parking space so and if you do it with that ease and flow then just release it to the universe and hey presto stuff happens yeah three principles of magic call something to mind fill it with an emotion and send it magic is possibly the most misunderstood thing but our world is completely full of it because humans have been using it for thousands of years and and that's it it's you know the trick is to call good things to mind and charge them with good emotions like love and compassion and all of those beautiful things that we want to fill our world with and so as a final thought pam where can people you know i was going to say directly to your site but i know that you're so busy you don't want any more clients but i'd love for people to find out more about your work to check out pam's fortnightly podcast he does on the newman in the full moon they've been a godsend for me they've kept me sane at some points when i thought i was losing my noggin last year because you know knowing that something else is going on externally which i mean you know we think about the effect of the moon never mind the effect of saturn or jupiter it's these huge titans you know and i think that that's often a little bit forgotten in the western world so where can people find out more about your book and your videos pam yeah uh pamgregory.com i've got two books plus an audiobook um several teaching videos i do a very long monthly newsletter six to seven thousand words every month about global events bloody and can expand a lot on stuff i just don't have time to say in the videos so i do that sadly i'm not booking any more client work this year i've got to have some just space to breathe and do other things so sadly that's so please don't write to me because you know i just can't reply to you know i'm getting a thousand emails messages a day it's just not possible to reply to everybody so very sorry about that uh um but there's still a lot that you can access um via my website of course my youtubes as david said go out um go out to twice a month and yes this is a fantastic time at the aries we're not getting your intention and we will be discovering that magic again that you talk about david that your world is is so immersed in you know we are going to be discovering the magic of nature the shamanism and the medicine and the depth to it and the nurturing that it can give us and that's going to be a huge pivot point for us as humanity well look you know what i mean despite the challenges i'm super excited about all of it uh i haven't i have my good days i had my bad days as i'm sure we all do but you know uh having having the knowledge of the planets and the stars and what's going on around us also reminds us how small we are and how big the universe is and how much potentiality there is in all of that and you know i just want to say again to our audience please do check out pam's newsletter it's really good uh for a small monthly fee i think it's well worth it there's lots of juicy information plus pam turns up really uh amazing bits of news that i hadn't come across and all the stuff about the kuiper belt very very interesting for those of us who have an interest in shamanism and indigenous cultures and indigenous healing practices because yes a lot of the uh these new planets being found being named from indigenous places so that's really really interesting so you know what this has been one of the quickest hours of my life i think we've got so much in an hour so you know i hope maybe this is a conversation that we continue at some point in in the future pam you know as as things develop and this higher technology our higher mind technology develops and we create new things maybe with mother earth in a positive way maybe it'd be nice to to do an update at some point but for now thank you so much for taking time out of your incredibly busy schedule and chatting with me today and please keep on doing all the great work that you do pam thank you so much so much david it's been an absolute joy really enjoyed the conversation thanks so much for for asking me wonderful blessings blessings on all of our audience out there enjoy the equinox and see you all again very soon thank you for now

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