Interview with Divinely Jennifer

this is divinely inspired where we interview visionaries change agents and wisdom keepers who inspire us to live our best life and always show up with love i'm your host divinely jennifer welcome oh beauties you are in for such a treat today i have the pleasure of interviewing pam gregory one of my favorite astrologers on the planet i say astrologer in quotes because pam does so much more than interpret the movement and the relationships of the stars what i love most about pam is her vision of a love-filled world that despite all of the shadows and polarities that exist today where we are headed is more beautiful than we could ever imagine i'm also inspired by how she humbly and generously translates the divine language of the cosmos so that we can all aspire to our highest purpose and to be our best love and light-filled selves there is no doubt though that pam is the foremost expert on astrology which has been her passion for over 40 years she studied for eight years with the faculty of astrological studies in london obtaining the most highly respected astrological qualifications in the world she also set up and ran the new forest school of astrology pam is the author of two books you don't really believe in astrology do you i love that title written for skeptics and aficionados alike as well as how to co-create using the secret secret language of the universe both of which you can purchase on her website www.pamgregory.com pam also has several classes available on her website both for those new to astrology and for professional astrologers please note that she is no longer taking clients no matter how much you email her or beg or say pretty please but you are always welcome to book a session with yours truly at www dot and with no further idea here is the latest episode of divinely inspired pam gregory thank you so much for joining us today on divinely inspired you have inspired me to really also raise my vibration and it is my hope in our interview today that we can teach people through your wisdom that of all you're studying over the last 40 plus years of astrology how we can really change the world for the better through astrology and through doing our work and being of service in our beautiful ways so i'm gonna cut right to it um and as i mentioned you've been doing astrology for a long time and i say doing astrology of course it's studying and sharing and researching and spending hours pouring over people's charts uh you know as this has come in so i don't want to spend too much time on your bio what i really want to ask you what really feels pressing is that you've said astrology is the language of the cosmos and i would love to know how does astrology inspire you to live your best light and shine your light well that's a wonderful wonderful question um it really really does jennifer i don't know who i would be and where i would be without astrology truly i mean it's it inspires me every hour of every day um it really does with its revelations and surprises and it is such a beautiful tool to work with because i think it's it's a very practical framework because it's almost like a cosmic weather forecast and you can see when to kind of keep your head down and work hard if it's a satin transit you can see where to play your luck a little more if it's a jupiter transit if it's a uranus transit you're meant to kind of challenge the rules and break free and be a maverick and so it helps us very much i believe to live strategically because we've got a weather forecast we know if it's going to rain we take an umbrella with us or wear you know wet weather gear so in that way it informs our life but it doesn't dictate to us in any way because ultimately we have free will we truly do so it is our unique pattern that in every moment is informing us of the cosmic winds and how we can best use the energies on any day month year etc and so you know through through my even through my corporate career i was using it all the time you know when is the best time to pitch for a new client or or whatever so it was very very practical in that way but the deeper you get into it the more you really start to see it as a spiritual language because we are so totally interconnected with the cosmos and astrology makes that blatantly clear because you know every day i'm um and you know i have said elsewhere and i know you're going to reiterate it that i'm taking on no more clients but but i'm booked till the end of the year and every day when i'm looking at client charts i know other than their name which they could have made up no they could have called themselves susie and actually their anne i know nothing but that birth date so i hop onto a zoom call and i know nothing about their life but i know a lot about their archetypal patterns so i don't know how they're living it out but for sure i know the qualities of the energy the timing the areas of life and what what what issues are likely to come up that becomes very clear before we start the conversation and so very often if a client is struggling it's because they are living that archetype at a lower level of expression i mean neptune is um is a very obvious one because if you're living that at a lower level of expression you may be confused you may be overwhelmed you may be you know weepy and foggy and i don't know who i am and i don't know where i'm going and i'm lost but if you say to yourself because you've you have the knowledge now that's my neptune transit this can be absolutely inspirational creatively and spiritually so if i use this energy to to paint write poetry to listen to music to tune into nature to meditate you know there's very old fine altered states then i'm using up the energy at the most positive level so it doesn't have any space or energy to manifest at the lower level and that is immensely helpful i think in living your life once you've got just that little bit of knowledge what each of the archetypes are about i know there's a very long answer to your very short question but you know if you take the uranus archetype i remember a client distinctly um who all through her life she had when she had big uranus transits she was cut off she was cut off from boyfriend she was cut off from parents she was cut off from bosses and fired you know and uranus does that's a savage cutting off but if i could help her to understand that it was actually her subconscious need for freedom and breaking out of that constraining relationship or situation then it's got a whole different picture because then she starts to become empowered rather than the victim of circumstance so even with basic basic astrology of understanding those very simple archetypes you know what are the lower levels of expression whatever higher you can shift gear you can shift frequency on your life just by understanding those basics so that's how it's a language you know people say to me well i don't believe in astrology i said well you know that's just a mad question it's like saying i don't believe in french it's just not expensive it's just a language it's not a religion it's not a belief it's you know it's just a language that is incredibly profound sacred and incisive um and very helpful for us so it was when you were in the corporate world it was like your secret sauce oh it was very secret i'd have been completely discredited because you know in certainly way back then you know you had to be a very straight business person but oh yeah i was i was brewing alchemy behind the scenes right and we'll we'll share with people at the end of the interview where they can find your book by that same name you know you don't believe in astrology do you i love that title there's so much humor and joy in it um you know and and i just but at the same time it sounds like what you've realized over the years is it it goes so much deeper and you know you speak often on your videos about a new earth paradigm and 5d ascension when did you realize that we were heading towards this higher vibration higher frequency new earth and when did you realize that astrology could be used to help us raise our own frequency to move towards this new earth yeah great question very good question i think it was really it really became kind of crystallized early last year um when i really started to get very very interested in these deep space kuiper belt object planets that to me represent the next evolution of consciousness and they're very fine in their um energy to work with and because they operate on quantum principles you know that they're all about were many of them that i've studied so far and of course they're an infinite number but the ones i've studied so far are very much about setting a clear intention stepping into that reality as if it's already happened living in that frequency and then the manifestation that's kind of 5d quantum as opposed to i'll write a business plan and i'll submit it and i'll have a meeting with the bank manager and get a loan and you know logical 3d pushing steps so that became very exciting and then when the whole world erupted with the pandemic i thought wow this is our initiation this is actually oh i'm going to say this movie this is actually our initiation into how do we handle this challenge how do we handle it do we handle it as victims or do we handle it as heroes and creators and it was for god [Music] so it was forcing us to make very very big possibly life-changing decisions at that time about how we handled this challenge and although it's all been horrific in terms of you know the suffering and the strife and the all of all of the things the fear everything that's gone with that it has forced people to look themselves in the eye and say how do i handle this at the highest positive level and get the best positive outcome so i realized that this was kind of i'm increasingly seeing it as the initiation into new earth because you have to keep and i bang on about this every video i make you have to keep a high frequency to get above all of this it's the only way because everything in life is a frequency match everything you know we're going to discover this more and more and you you are acutely aware of it yourself jennifer but everything's a frequency match so if we're in fear we get more fear if we're in anger we get more anger for anxiety we get more of that you know universe says okay give you all that because you're thinking about it a lot so you must want more of it so here it comes boom so we have to be masterful enough to despite what's happening in 3d re reality and it is you know it really there's no doubt you know people having a terrible time but to say okay despite that i am not giving it my energy and attention i'm going to focus over here because i have to in order to keep my frequency high yes identify fully answered your question but i think it was the beginning of of last year and i thought wow this is taking us to levels where we you know we've never been before and that's what of course the ancient prophecies were saying you know that this is really going to be the essential for humankind that we've never had and succeeded the others as i understand it the other attempts have failed for various reasons so so if that is that if that is there is a possibility we have to step into it we can't mess up this opportunity so i think and i've never really defined it that's why it's such a good question jennifer because i've never really thought about it in those terms before but you've just made me think about it really as in as clear a vision right now and yeah yeah that's that's really how i thought about but perhaps not as clearly as that looks i hope i've expressed it right now yeah yeah so yeah so it's on track but we have to make very clear decisions which way am i going am i going into fear or am i going into love because boy have i got a big challenge facing you right now every single one of us yes oh that no that's beautiful and i'm wondering for people listening and and saying you know how do you do that how have you done that i mean i know i've had to i've been a master manifester over the last 17 months maybe a little bit more i kind of look back and go wow but i've also had to make some of the most difficult decisions of my life and really step up to be in alignment and in integrity with who i am as a human being so have you also had those moments over the last 18 months as we've been navigating this new territory where you felt like you really had to you know saturn square you're honest it was this boundaries versus the freedom um paradigm totally totally and i live in an area which i was saying to you before the call you know it's very very beautiful but it's also extremely conservative so within my own little area here geographic area not frequency area but geographic area i am very alone in the decisions i've made and that can create a great sense of isolation particularly in lockdown however again it's our mastery you know it would have been so easy oh i give in okay i give it but you know where does that get you so yes i've had to be like you undoubtedly in a very clear very strong and think the only thing that matters is my integrity my truth um and my my clarity on the vision on where i'm going and i'm sure where i'm going and so it's interesting you're talking about the manifesting since that time people have just popped up all over the world you know the right people all the right places the synchronicity and those networks are really blossoming and they're even starting to blossom locally people are finding each other now that are singing the same song as it were and that's aquarius isn't it that's our aquarian energy of community and and collaboration and that has been really invigorating and supportive and exciting because that you can see these hubs of light beginning these oh these hubs of like-minded people coming together and say oh gosh you do that well i do this well we could share or you're not gonna put you in touch with somebody in a jump lead but the way the second part of your question how have i handled it nature you know i just come back to nature nature doesn't lie to you nature is always there nature is very healing and i just so often if my head is going crazy with work coming in i just go and sit on the grass like a three-year-old child i've just got a bomb i've just got to touch the earth you know hug a tree stare at that all the stuff i talk about in my videos i really do i really do walk my talk you know i listen to the birds i look at blue sky i try and listen to the the sound behind the birds and there's that silence and then i try and is there anything beyond that silence you know the buddhist expanded focus um or i'll sing i'll come i'll chant i'll laugh with a friend i'll hug a dog and hug a chuck you know any of those super super simple things and whenever i'm challenged with somebody sending me something oh you know wish wish i hadn't gone there because that's not gonna fill my frequency dropping then i do something instant i just flick it into boy look at that flower i'm gonna stare into that rose because it's just amazing so i'll flick it straight away to get me back to alignment and i've mentioned in recent videos that i've been i've been dowsing for a few years but i'm dowsing more because what's getting very exciting is the people i know are making jumps in that like 200 points in a day literally 200 points in a day and the the maximum frequency for humanity seems to have quadrupled in the last two years quadrupled and you know i thought i was going crazy saying that but i've checked with other dolls and they no no you know we're getting it as well so think of that as a possibility that we can either head towards this you know very very fearful future or we can create from light we can create from possibility we can create from plasma we can create from invisibility trusting that if we are on a higher frequency that has to manifest by the law of the universe it's got to be a frequency match i love that and i'm i'm feeling for all the people who i know who i see fear on both sides right so there's so much polarity and i see fear on i see fear in on both sides of the polarity right it's not a spectrum it's sort of this weird thing and you know people will send me videos and i'll say thank you for sending me that i'm not going to watch it because it takes me into that zone is there something else you'd like to discuss but for people like me who have experienced risks in our own family i mean my father refuses to see me and which is very hard because i'm a daddy's girl and but that's his journey it's not mine so for all the other people out there who are watching this and feeling those own separations in in their own worlds and yet knowing that nature is the connection i wrote down something you said i saw you said everything gaia experiences we do as well yeah and i loved that just i still get truth bumps feeling when i read it out loud so for all those people watching tell us about your vision for the new earth is tangential energetic all of it what as a vision the visionary that you are through astrology through these new planets coming in that you're in the kuiper belt that you're seeing and studying through your dousing what is the vision that is coming in to you on behalf of gaia yeah beautiful thank you you asked great questions jennifer thank you um okay i think i think community is key because of the aquarian energy community is absolutely key so we've stopped the whole yuppie thing buying stuff you know all of that it just doesn't matter as i said before the core you know we're much more interested in growing our own vegetables and linking up with other people for local farmers who can do that so community is going to be incredibly strong and what's going to be important i mean uranus is in taurus that's about a radical shift in values away from materialism i mean money may just dissolve as we've known it and i know that sounds scary but it will be replaced by sharing sharing food sharing um love sharing experiences and you really will be coming together in communities of frequency you will find communities on the same frequency as you again we're back to the frequency match so that is is kind of at the almost the practical level and i think the way societies are going to operate are absolutely not going to be top down this is capricorn pluto's moving through capricorn it's deconstructing that old fossilized top-down rules and regulations etc order it's it's very clear so you know we know how well that's worked don't we as in not very so so the reaction will be with the aquarius energy and it's happening in some towns in the uk some little country towns they they have a people's council they have a people's assembly so the people particularly people who are expert in certain areas of agricultural law or whatever are gonna are coming together to advise the so-called elected council on how to run the town and those are also the beginnings of new earth it's people's assemblies people's councils and i'm in a a local group where people are coming forwards to say i'm a foraging expert i'm a preserving expert with kilner jars you know the way your granny used to do it you know i'm a common law expert so people are forming communities in that way and i think that's one of the practical kind of ways new earth will start to begin and also these these hubs of light are going to connect across the world and so therefore another way we're going to start to um develop is telepathy in a much bigger way you know we'll lose the gadgets and we'll start to just intuitively um develop our telepathic abilities and that will really be boosted i think particularly next year when jupiter moves into pisces we've got that fabulous conjunction between jupiter and neptune in april at 23 of pisces smack on my son i have to say so i can barely wait i'll either drown or have a mystical experience but either way but um so telepathy heightened intuition heightened psychic abilities everybody everybody can heal already but they'll be increased healing ability we'll just be able to you know gaze at someone and send love and they will heal there's a croatian chap i think called bratcher who does that he organizes huge events and he just turns up and there are a thousand people and he just gazes at them and they get healed so this is the kind of ability i think people will be developing we will be more wave and less particle we will we'll be lighter our diets will be much lighter we'll probably eat less um we'll be more plant food um if we eat anything it'll be plant food obviously rather than rather than animal food which is much lower um frequency and all of these things will in turn raise our frequency as well we'll take in light from the sun because the sun goes farther plants and vegetables as you know that we eat but many people are getting more into sun gazing and i wouldn't i don't know the detail of that and so please don't go out you know during the day to do that whatever you do but you know early morning and late evening get advice on that but you can get your information and your energy directly from the sun we're full of biophotons we're full of you know our being is is just photonic light and so we will be able to hold much more light in our bodies and that's what i think the purpose of moving through the photon belt is right it's very high frequency white light that some of us can see and that's flooding in and and altering upgrading every cell in our body but the thing then becomes how much how much light can you retain because the higher your frequency obviously the more light you can hold i think nature will be absolutely exquisite it will be abundant there will be no hunger there will be no poverty and i'm really inspired by the dwarf planet and i'm probably going to because people write to him and say you pronounced it wrong but anyway homia who's linked to the um hawaiian goddess of fertility and in times of waste where nothing could be grown from the land through bad agricultural practices she had a magic stick called the maca light and she could just summon food from the land instantly we are gonna start however crazy it seems right now ultimately we are going to have the ability to produce abundance and nature will be in dazzling translucent colors it will be so exquisite we can barely take it in it will be so beautiful so there will be no poverty no hunger um it will be we will be in a state of bliss and love and compassion that's my feeling so the more we can cultivate those feelings now of bliss and love and compassion the faster that vision is going to come towards us it's just all about momentum really and yes you're absolutely right jennifer there's a there is a big polarity you know you can't you can't say there isn't because it's very obvious there is but ultimately we are all going to come back to unity consciousness and that's where those of us who've taken different decisions have to hold our our compassion just we've all signed a sell contract before we arrived so yeah anyway maybe that i'm sorry i'm giving you very long answers i love it this is all about you so we're good and that feels so good i mean as you're just just even the way you describe it the vibration is so high compared to what we have been maybe experiencing even for those of us who have gone through multiple transformations in the last few years last several months as we've made big life decisions i know many women in particular who said i cannot eat meat it was overnight i know i mean i i've had to cut out red meat for the most part i just can't my it just doesn't taste good it just doesn't resonate with me anymore and so i'm watching this happen i know a lot of people who are turning to medicinal mushrooms i always think of as a nurse and a naturopath i think of mushrooms being that on the one hand they're sort of that the highest vibration of capricorn because it's this underground movement and even though in capricorn season in the northern hemisphere the plants are dead you know you just think god it's gray out there is the sun ever going to shine again will we ever see flowers again and the bees and but it's all happening underground in that moment it's all gaining strength so a lot of people are going that direction as well but it's it's so beautiful to hear the way you describe it this frequency and you can see how it could be so scary first and to have compassion for someone who hasn't even gone there this is never a world like this in their mind seems impossible and yet the more little steps you take even for five minutes in feeling that energy sitting quietly in the tree especially out in nature as you were saying to get that vibration to you know the little hummingbird we have these hummingbirds that are always flirting and flitting by and they just make me laugh and that alone raises a vibration and and i'll forgive your pronunciation it's it's a very british pronunciation of so it's all good of of this of this goddess who is impacting our ability to manifest in some ways with that taurus energy and i would love to um hear a little bit more about you would mention that you might be writing a book about these planetary bodies i don't know if that is still coming into past maybe that's something for 2022 as you've got as we've got this jupiter neptune conjunction that's gonna just you're just gonna be sprinkling pam pixie dust all over the planet and these so tell us how i would love to hear more your perspective around these discoveries of of these and who are of course incidentally i it's not lost on me that virgo is the only sign that rep that truly represents the feminine or that um all of the planets except for venus are male but now you've got these asteroids eris who you're such an expert in you know ceres vesta palace athena and now you've got these other goddesses coming up into their light they're finally getting their do so to speak to bring some divine feminine divine masculine balance how do you see that impacting the world of astrology and how people like you and i interpret astrology and continue to expand our knowledge of this beautiful language yeah yeah another wonderful question it's it's it's a whole other level and you know my strong belief is that we only learn about further out planets when our consciousness is ready to integrate them that's my strong feeling so these you know very distant planets really do represent another another jump in our consciousness and as you'll know jennifer they all started to be discovered around about the 2000s early 2000s and it takes astrologers quite some time because the orbits are so long to kind of suss out the myths and what they're all about and plot them in people's charts and see how they're playing out but yes you are absolutely right increasingly it's about the feminine and i think it's going to give us really a very different perspective on the world and and our individuality because up to now we've had you know planets going out to pluto and in the old days of course in vedic astrology traditionally they only look out to saturn because that's far as the as the you know we can physically see with our naked eye um but we're in a this is about entering as a galactic citizen i think this step into the dwarf planets and the kuiper belt it's about us increasingly becoming galactic citizens no longer feeling we are earthbound you know saturn was the limit and the it was the physical limit by the naked eye of what you could see by the ancients and so we were very earthbound but now we're going way out beyond pluto eris has a 560-year orbit sedna has i think is an eleven thousand and a half year orbit you know eleven thousand five hundred so we are going out and she's obviously female too so we are into big shifts of the ages we're into paradigm shifts we're into much more feminine energy but strong feminine with eris warrior feminine you know no mucking about you know we're very clear on our vision and what we want and that to me is very exciting so i think there will come a time where your birth chart will be only looking at those dwarf planets and beyond we may not have what we recognize as current astrology in the personal planets now that may be sometime off but if you become a galactic citizen and see yourself very much as part of that community astrology may evolve in that direction that birth charts just become the dwarf planets and beyond because we're going to keep on trucking out to deep space wow what a huge shift for people huge shift as people are willing to be open to that consciousness yeah so i'll say it again that your calendar is closed for offering personal astrology readings for people but if they want to come to me they can absolutely why do you think that astrology has become and in particular the way you interpret astrology because you definitely bring soul to your astrology why do you think there's been such a swell and growth in interest i mean it almost is like if you don't if you were to not do a video for a full moon or a new moon i'm sure you'd get a thousand emails going where is it where is it i need it if i'm a day late i'm in trouble that's true and yeah i can i mean i don't know i'm just a messenger you know so i just see myself as the the messenger i'm a really regular person who loves nature walks my neighbor's dog and sits on the grass you know i'm i'm just trying to do the best i can in huge transformational times to be the messenger to help people because it is it is tough in that we're being asked to trust the invisible we're being asked to hitch our star to an invisible wagon that we can't yet see but the trick is if you do keep in high frequency you start to see it the universe gives you signs and signals here's a person on the same wavelength that that you know they can help your work or whatever or here's a place you might want to go to so as soon as you trust the frequency and start to do that a whole new world opens up so we're moving much more into an age where we are really going to get this idea of everything is energy everything is frequency everything is plasma free matter and that's where our influence lies to create and that becomes very exciting but because it's so unknown because it's so invisible and so different from the solid reliable structures of government and education and legalities and you get your pension regulator whatever it is um it's very hard to shift from something that is so dense so concrete and tangible to just the invisible but that's our mastery that's what we're being asked to do and people are getting it people are realizing as they're stepping into that after a reading i have people cry sometimes during their readings and not because they're sad but because they're so moved by their own inner beauty because their chart acknowledges their gifts and they'll say i felt this all along but i just don't know how it's gonna happen and how it's gonna work you know and we can say well now you know and now you can start to manifest it and so that they it gives them permission the more they understand more people understand their natal blueprint it almost like it gives them permission to show up in their highest frequency totally the authoritarian collective be darned or whoever's approval they were kind of seeking because really what matters is we need them we need all of us to shine our light in our own way in order for this all to happen for this shift to happen we can't we'll be a very lonely monk if we're on the new earth all by ourselves absolutely and you know you're absolutely right jennifer there's a sense of for the for the client a sense of crystallization and validation i now really know who i am at a deep level and that's empowering it really is a thing okay off i go now on my mission because it's so clear and and also i think putting these these um dwarf planets in the chart now which i've been starting to do this year um beautiful planets like celestia you know the wife of neptune she's mermaid energy and she's very connected to the kind of iridescent shimmer of light on the sea on the water the moonlight and the sunlight and to me she represents photonic light and this is the age we're moving into so we are always creating with light we just haven't been very aware of it but we're going to become much more aware of it so she's super feminine again another symbol of new earth and how we're creating said it in an interview i i don't know if it was the last video you did but you said the highest vibration of neptune is divinity yeah yeah so how how did i mean just wondering how those two then come together in their um masculine feminine balance to give us access to our own divinity and to um all of the spirit that's out there yeah absolutely and i i think it's it's to me that bounce between neptune and celestia is is offering us a very high level of um divine order and divine intelligence and it's the perception of that in nature whether it's the oceans the lakes whether it's the trees the birds it gives you this this perception of overall intelligence that is divine intelligence that has a much greater plan than we can easily perceive but that is percolating down in every moment to each to our front doors to each individual and so once you get a sense i mean you know plato and all his philosophy was really looking at this very high level of of divine intelligence and i think selassia and neptune help us to get there because they both encourage us in their archetypes to get to altered states to get to bliss without chemicals without drugs without plant medicine totally sitting on the grass like a three-year-old watching the birds and looking at a blue sky if we're lucky here in the uk you know it is it is that feeling of simple bliss and connection to the divine that i think neptune and selassia are all about it's absolutely simple you'd have to go on a course you'd have to pay money you'd have to fly anywhere it is sitting on the earth like a kid and just feeling the healing energy of the earth and and it's the beauty of all of it's getting to bliss neptune is very linked to altered states selassia is a very high frequency of light it's getting to altered states of bliss and staying there for as long as you can i think one of the challenges is also keeping our attention one-pointed because we're lousy at that as human beings we're rubbish at it because we're inundated in social media too we've got to hop there and i haven't checked that but what and over there and tons of emails and off we get you know because it's so instant and and and there's such a volume so that that doesn't help us keeping one point of focus and attention but i think once we can master that then we're on a roll with with getting to these states of bliss for longer times yes and to and to not and that's something i do see i see a lot of people tapping into ayahuasca bufo which is the the frog toxin um combo all these different even psilocybin the micro dosing the hallucinogenic mushrooms who want to experience this bliss and which i i'm not going to judge that's not something that resonates with me but i think for people to kind of see hey this is what this feels like but ultimately we don't need we won't need these plant medicines or let alone the synthetic opiates and all these things that people have become reliant upon because we will be able to manifest that energy within ourselves through our connections with others and with mother earth totally and and and part of this huge shift jennifer's you very well know is from the external to the internals from external authority figures people telling you what to do to i decide in the most loving compassionate way what i do in the world and how i help others so it's a real and we've got to develop that sense of internal center and anchor this radio dial that i often talk about you know that's where you live from and the body is such an amazing pharmacy i mean it's interesting a healer told me the other day um that when you're if you're growing anything on any vegetables um that you spit on the seeds as you're planting them and the vegetables will then produce anything that you are deficient in which you then eat wow i mean how differently intelligence is that isn't that amazing so you're ingesting back what you need that the vegetable will provide for you if you're deficient it's not just mind-blowing so you know we're gonna become much more aware of this this interconnectedness with nature in a beautiful beautiful blending kind of way but yes it's got to be internal we can't go there or you know and i include myself in this as you know astrology is massively helpful to people on on client sessions but ultimately it's all down to an inside job yeah i love that could be your next book it's the inside job right well for this for the sake of time i feel like i could we could talk for the next three hours and we wouldn't really cover merely what is percolating and bubbling up but i would be in addition as we were talking about neptune and this beautiful jupiter neptune conjunction coming up in pisces in april what astrology are you predicting or are you anticipating to be the most influential of 2022 i know we'll still feel some of the influence of that pluto era square that everyone has talked about we'll still have some of the remnants of the saturn uranus square that's we'll still feel some of that i mean just looking ahead i'm looking at you know march april look to be like wow there's a lot of potency there what are you seeing in the work that you've done in the look ahead yeah thank you um i mean jupiter neptune is is huge is it's really huge and yes you know it's possible they manifest as flooding because when jupiter was in pisces this summer northern hemisphere there was a lot of flooding in europe i think on the east coast of america so when it returns into pisces on the 29th of december and stays in pisces for about the first six months of next year we could see more of that but really this is the ancient ruler of pisces coming together with the modern ruler of pisces and it's just visionary it's mystical so if anybody has their ascendant their sun their moon their venus their mercury particularly um it's going to be just be this is going to be a you know a mystical shift to see life from a higher level a finer level um it's going to be very very beautiful so we mustn't miss that opportunity because i think it's going to be spectacular and yes you're absolutely right we've still got the eris pluto square but it's not exact again we've still got the saturn uranus square but it's not exactly the minute it's exactly the degree again in october 22 but not to the minute so the crunch time is what we're entering right now you know we've got another final exact square between eris and pluto on the 9th of october we've got another and the astrology for october is strong let me say it's strong um we've got another exact square between saturn and uranus on the 24th of december it's going to be a cracking christmas with that i should think so these are exact and as you well know jennifer whenever um aspects are exact they manifest much more strongly so we have got some great intensity and i you know i've said recently that those two sets of squares there is pluto and saturn uranus are very similar in their themes it's control versus freedom it's old versus new eres pluto is challenging you know that patriarchal top-down order and it challenges elitism it wants everyone to have a voice nobody left out completely in inclusive everybody to be heard so does uranus it's a planet representing equality and so they have very very so so you know it couldn't be clearer from the astrology what the themes are and ultimately as i've said recently i believe eris will win in the pluto square and uranus will win in the saturn square because they're the further out planets so that's where we're headed but boy are we gonna have a challenging few months six months i think at the 3d level and i really want to emphasize that's at the 3d level because i think this will be the very concentrated period that we're going into any minute actually any moment october very strong um energy the full moon on the i think it's the 20th 27th of october is very powerful it's very powerful indeed and then we go into the eclipses in november and december um and then we have as we had last winter or last um in northern hemisphere we had mars in its own sign in a long term square to pluto which was a really tough brutal brutal um kind of top down time um this time as we go into kind of jan feb um march to some extent we've got mars conjunct pluto in capricorn so that's an echo of last winter northern hemisphere and also pluto is kind of grinding through the same degrees because it's been it's still retrograde grinding through those degrees that it kind of triggered last winter so it's kind of on the home straight if you like it's going to be an echo of what was happening or an attempted echo of what was happening last winter but we've learned a lot and we've grown a lot and we also have venus retrograde in capricorn at that same time yeah and that's going to be i think that they're going to be huge financial um developments let's say obviously you're very well aware it's the us pluto return please feel coming back to its 1776 place i think and that's in the second house of the country's economy and money if you use the 4th of july 1710 philadelphia um sibley chart um that's going to affect the world it isn't just going to be america that's going to but i see that as a spiritual rebirth for america a big spiritual rebirth for america and whatever's happening in america will be dominoes across the rest of the world so over the next six months i see an incredible amount of change disruption yes chaos systems collapse but you don't have to live at that level yeah you know if we are already linking with other people of like mind on a different frequency we our day-to-day lives i mean i've said recently that i feel more and more removed from mainstream society with every passing day i haven't been to a supermarket for 21 months my local small town is a mile away i haven't been there for 21 months i get my organic food delivered just fruit and vegetables so yeah i'm i'm just in a self-sufficient bubble so and i know i'm very lucky because other people are on the front line and it's very very different but as far as you are able if you can kind of step back from the grit of mainstream society and keep that eagles perch that higher perspective you will start to live a different timeline so i see next year as not as intense as the next six months for sure i see not as yet there's still challenges and battles and dulla but the squares are looser and i see more and more green shoots of new earth through the broken concrete because you know if we truly believe that this big spiritual transformation began in 2012 and and the golden age begins in 2032 we are at that mid point now but as we get into 22 spring onwards we've tipped on to the other decade of that if you like and i think we are going to see more and more signs opportunities synchronicities connected to new earth and the normal shift from you know the grit to the joy yeah one of my friends said she was feeling really indecisive about traveling to a full moon festival in october you should go should i go should i go and i said well i can't tell you to go or not but what i can tell you is what's happening in the astrology in those five days and i'm not going anywhere good answer people don't come to me that's fine but i'm not going i'm not getting on an airplane [Laughter] because it will all change you know i think it's been very interesting when saturn moved into aquarius saturn limitation aquarius freedom that was i think march 22nd march 23rd a lot of the world went into lockdown uk did too so constriction on the freedom so clear it's going to stay in aquarius till march 2023 when it goes into pisces i believe we are going to see freedoms re-emerge at that time and and that will become and anyway we'll be able to teleport quite soon i think we'll speaking of march 2023 this is actually my last astrology question i really want to get to it how do you think that pluto's move into aquarius obviously he's going to retrograde back into capricorn just a little bit but for the most part he'll enter that aquarius energy on march 23 2023 how do you think that will further empower people to step into their sovereignty yeah excellent um well i think we have to be aware of the shadow side in order to avoid it because you know the literal symbolism is controlled by technology isn't it pluto control uranus aquarius technology but i look back in history and i can't recall the details now but if you look back in history there's some very positive things that have happened around pluto shift into aquarius i think there was the first declaration was it of civil rights or human rights it came out of the french national assembly um and it was the first written document around people having rights because aquarius is very linked to freedoms obviously human rights etc so i think that there could potentially be a transformation in how we view human rights and freedoms and my word wouldn't that be wonderful and that is also going to be a spiritual transformation for humankind because aquarius is about the collective of humankind which is going to be the most extraordinary up shift because aquarius is also frequency if you look at the you know the glyph the two jagged it's frequency isn't it you know electromagnetic energy so that i think potentially is very exciting indeed and we get what we believe it will be if we believe it's going to be that the positive expression that is what we'll get because we just we just get our our beliefs and our expectations reflected back to us yeah yes i think you're right it's so important to understand the shadow so that we can and now even with all the technology that's being um used in at higher frequencies and being used for the shadows i'll just say say it that way right we can we can witness it and go wow that's really something and then wow that's really something wonderful it's it's you know there's that old movie um when harry met sally with uh meg ryan and tom hanks years ago if you ever saw it and she's she's faking an orgasm at the table and the woman says it was b arthur i think says i'll have what she's having you know it's sort of that when people see us when people see those living at a higher frequency they're going to say i want what i want what they're having i i want i want that that's that feels good and for those who can see it who are kind of on i see people who are kind of on the bridge they're not quite sure which step to take so um through the we i want to go back to gaia for a minute as we close up today um because i just do feel what you're offering what you offer has so much it has you have to be personally responsible you have to be accountable for yourself but there's also a lot of hope and light in your message and you also have this beautiful connection to gaia to this new earth that's being birthed both through the astrology as well as what you feel in your heart pam gregory's heart what do you feel that gaia most wants us to know right now i think guy wants us to love her to love her and honor her as an organic living being because you know yeah she's been trashed you know pollution trash we've just we've had this this idea that we can dominate nature we can dominate animals i mean i haven't eaten meat for 45 years i'm just too big a softy with animals to to to do that but we've dominated animals we've dominated nature we've exploited her we haven't regarded her as an organic living being and she is and she is going through her major upgrade you can see it in the schumann resonance you can see what's happening because the earth's core is actually expanding right now causing more earthquakes and volcanoes and extreme extreme weather events so and we you know we we can't not which is terrible english be effective you know we have to be affected by her we live on her bare feet on the grass you can feel those healing irons sucking into you can look at the blood test before and after you know the blood's all clumpy generally before you stand on the earth you know 40 minutes later another blood test it's beautiful and viscous and flowing and healthy just by standing on the earth so we've got to start to understand that we are part of gaia we are part of this whole ecosystem this organic feedback loop everything affects everything else everything's connected to everything else i just pour love into gaia just like you would if you were growing flowers or vegetables pour in love because that consciousness that frequency you send out to gaia will help her stabilize and flourish you know i was flying a couple of weeks ago and i flew over one of the major fires here in california i think it's up to 300 000 acres at this point and and i looked down and i felt such sadness and i said you know mother earth how can we help you heal and she said oh honey i'm already healed i'm a master manifesto this is part of my healing and she just and then i got a little she got a little snarky with me and she said what are you manifesting [Laughter] so you know it's that and you know that we so that we also then what i'm hearing is that we have to take response again this we have to take responsibility for ourselves and we have to love and we have to love her and we have to love each other as hard as that is who can you send can you send love to the person you hate the most or the person that you judge the most i mean that's what i'm constantly working on can i just can i reserve a little meditation time and send them some good vibes and then close the door again and go with my absolutely you know we have to send them love because you know we love them before for who they are and we still love them for who they are and they may have taken a different track along the way but we still love them for who they are you know and and you know they're they're good good people and another thing i really want to say as well when i'm in nature i don't think it'll help people but when i'm when i'm in nature i'm fully in nature i never ever ever ever take my mobile phone with me ever because why would you in nature because this kind of addiction that you can't go anywhere without your mobile phone i never take it with me i barely ever switch it on to be honest you know a month can go by and i haven't switched on because i enjoy living in the dark ages you know that works really well for me my connection is nature my connection is not to that mobile phone yes i have to use a computer for work but that's as far as it goes frankly yeah i'm always a bit surprised when i see people or hear people when i'm out on the trails and they have their music blasting and and i think don't you want to pay attention to this and but then again i'm also happy that they're out on the trails and experience at least the movement and the sunshine and the nature too but i do think that's helpful for people to know that you can you can still thrive yeah totally out that um reliance on the technology and perhaps that will be part of the innovation of pluto in aquarius is technology without tech innovation without technology how can we innovate away from the technology hold on to it because i what if someone's trying to call me or text me oh i got a little dopamine hit because somebody liked me you know yeah that's brilliant jennifer that's really brilliant because yeah i'm pretty allergic to all that stuff and you just got to immerse yourself in nature just milk it just love it and you can't do that if you've kind of got a mobile phone waiting for the next text yeah you know it's kind of crazy so that's my view as a humble um being living in in the dark ages and you know in the 18th century let's say and very happily i have to say well i know i'm i and hundreds of thousands of other people are so grateful that you do tap into the technology to bring your voice to the world and the the legacy that you are creating for all the generations especially i see the younger generation you know i've got a 17 a 19 and a 21 year old and i see their generation's reliance on the technology and so we we have to continue to mentor for them that you can thrive without that technology and with a different type of connection that there is this in-person connection even this connection it's virtual but it's so beautiful and deep because it's just these lights just being sent across the world to one another me in california you and england and and here we are and goodness knows as people are watching it the different lights as you're talking about as you were talking about the new earth and these communities of light i could see it's almost like as you know i always go back to health as a nurse like these neurons these synapses that are firing and the more they fire the more they get to connect with others until that light is surrounding us all right we're creating a grid of light around the universe for sure yes thank you so much this has been such an honor and a privilege for me to spend this time with you it has flown by and um so that so just again to reiterate you are not taking any um any clients at this time you're booked up for the year no special favors for anybody not even me but if anyone wants to come see me they can so but you've got so many books and and online teachings for beginners in astrology and also not beginners in astrology so tell people the best way they can find you online um to experience your work that does not include a one-on-one reading yeah thank you i'm sorry about that it's just you know just so many hours in the day and only one small person um very active youtube channel which is pam gregory astrology you can all my videos are there um my website is um also www.pamgregory.com that is currently being upgraded so please note it's moving very slowly right now until probably late october till it's upgraded because again you can find everything there i've got my my two books um which are available um via amazon and some reviews that i've got quite a few teaching videos as you say jennifer beginners and more advanced um i write a very long monthly newsletter of around about 7 000 words which i put up roughly i don't say exactly because i don't really pin down to the exact date but roughly at the end of each month um september's is already there i'm doing that for free now um it's no longer a subscription so there's a lot of information there because i often do research and and you know dig into cycles in a in a bigger way than i can ever do in the youtube videos so so that's what's there and um who knows what else will come wonderful thank you yeah your website will have to get through mercury's retrograde in order to be fully upgraded right indeed absolutely well thank again thank you again and um uh for those of you who are watching i'll post pam's information below um on youtube and in soundcloud so that you can go right to her website and access her amazing materials thank you pam absolute joy i've really enjoyed it jennifer and you asked some wonderful questions so to connect across the miles um so much thanks thank you so much okay beauties is pam a light-filled gorgeous soul or what i feel so blessed that we are able to tap into her wisdom and her inspiration i hope that you have been as inspired by pam as i have i've got her website listed below if you would like to access her book or any of her classes and if you want to sign up for a reading to help figure out how best you can navigate these pretty wild and turbulent times that we are talking about please reach out to me at www www.divinelyjennifer.com thank you so much for listening i love you have a beautiful day a beautiful week i'm divinely jennifer you

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Published: Sat Sep 11 2021