Bill Gates gets interviewed and plays chess against Magnus Carlsen | SVT/NRK/Skavlan

[Applause] welcome to London we were just talking about who was cool and who's not cool easy bro very cool and then I thought about you because you took your private jets this morning and you flew through the polar vortex and you landed on the airport here in England and you took a helicopter to this studio and you come in here now and I think that's the cool thing either I'm in that school place like me you're like the James Bond of philanthropy welcome welcome to this video thank you please tell me mr. gates what is what is the Giving Pledge there's a lot of wealth that's been created and the question is if you want to give that away who can you learn from and so myself and Warren Buffett had dinners with people who'd been very successful and talked about you know why did they believe in philanthropy and what were they going to do and we decided to create a group that would get together regularly encourage people to collaborate to do it when they're younger to do more and so this giving pledge now has one hundred and twenty two billionaires who have committed to give the majority of their money away and are now learning from each other about how to good the best possible way and that's what you're doing these days is how is it to give away your money into the possible way well our foundation is very focused on the health of the poorest in the world so I'm learning a lot about diseases working with scientists the foundation works my my full-time effort and this week the foundation the bill and I'm Melinda Gates Foundation and the the Gates letter or Gates letter comm which is you are on that it's worth three it was released this week it's a lot of good news in it that's right we're making more progress than people are aware of we reduce the number of poor countries dramatically so the idea that they stay poor that's a bad myth back to the next 20 years will be down to very very few poor countries we've improved health a lot by having generous aid and actually that by improving health ironically you think of you save kids lives you get more kids and you have population problems in fact if you improve health families decide voluntarily to have less kids actually health is how you make sure that we we're going to hit a peak population and not have the type of feeding and educating and environmental problems we'd have if the population kept growing so it's all good news but it's quite it's quite the prediction you have it's a very audacious to the prediction that when you are 80 years old yourself in 235 right try 135 then there would be almost no program change that's right and I think people aren't aware of that because you see headlines about all the setbacks but this gradual improvement where countries like Brazil Korea Mexico China that were once very poor you know in 1960 almost every country in the world was poor except for the West and now we've moved them up so they're almost all middle income they don't need aid the number of countries left that need aid is you know about 50 or 60 and what I'm saying is that will drop down they'll be less than ten of those if we keep being generous and being smart about improving the health and agriculture of these poor countries so that you know it's good news that I'm afraid the normal way people see headlines saying they might not be aware but they might think it's all fruitless how often do people say sorry mitigates that's just not possible well there's a lot of sentences and in most people don't get go to Africa as much as I do and look at the numbers they just see that some aid program 2% of the money was spent corruptly and you know that's plate up the bad news of an epidemic or a dictator taking over and so things like polio eradication we're in the next five years we think we can end that disease for all time you all didn't evil they did in India now India yeah it's gone three years now with no cases so we just celebrated that kind of certification we still got it in five countries right now so we got work to do but we're optimistic on that as well how how should we think about foreign aid well eight generosity saves lives and it buys back scenes buy seeds for farmers and so I'm always encouraging countries to be more generous in fact three of the most generous in the world are Norway Sweden and Denmark so your your viewers deserve a blow to stay so we can we don't have to bother so much anymore well keep up the good work you need to keep going there's often people come along and say no no you're cynical about it but it really is out there making huge difference I wish everybody could go and see the impact it has there are after all all the ways to be a philanthropist you could like give them you see and I'm you see my new wing or something yeah that's not my thing but why not ah you know mothers want their children to live and the fact that we haven't taken the latest science and put created a malaria vaccine you know it's still over six hundred thousand kids a year dying of malaria and you know why hasn't science made that a priority well plants B there's no market for it because it's poor people who can't spend to buy it and so either governor plants we have to step in you know creating new seeds that let African farmers who are 1/3 as productive as in rich countries today moving that up so their kids have nutrition they can raise the school things they need that's a lot more fun you know I don't know what I'm no expert on hard but it's and it's I'm not criticizing that that's for other people to work on but look did you talk about debunking myths what is the most irritating myth about you well I would say there's anything irritating people are very nice to me I'd say this you know a myth might be that on the most generous philanthropist of all time which in a pure economic sense you know I threw my life I'll give away over a hundred billion but but somebody who chooses to live in Africa and work in a hospital or give money so they're giving up a vacation or something they mean you know I've not had to sacrifice as you said I have a plane you know when I want to get a hammer I get a hammer and coat I've not really sacrificed my time or my you know economic well-being in the same way that lots of unnamed amazing people do so they're you know the world's best philanthropist when was the last time when was the last time you walked into a store and you saw something that you wanted and you thought honor that's too expensive well I don't have very expensive taste you know when I decided to buy a plane that was pretty accepted ah that's my big splurge but I couldn't be here without it I love that thing mm-hmm you you we were talking about Lister because he's on a lot of lists among other lists one of the most intelligence in the world and you're number one on the list that was that was made public recently a list of the most influential the most admired people in the world and you're number one would that count for your dinner table yes it it will count is it like that at home around your dinner table god I'm not number one at home you'll notice my back oh well people are nice me but you know him on my wife limited you know she does the most with the kids and I think she drank pretty high what about your parents your father is still working with you how important is is he in your life your mother is it she has taught yeah my mom he passed away about 20 years ago my dad was a lawyer and then after he retired he volunteered to help me the foundation going and he still involved comes in you know he just turned 88 so he's you know still likes to work his hearing isn't did it speak but his integrity and example is still extremely valuable have you often I mean have you changed three years as a person and I mean doing this kind of work because before there was a very different kind of work working with with machines and I mean that's that's a totally different thing have you yeah all the time well I I become softer certainly but you know it's age you mellow in my 20s I didn't believe in vacation I didn't believe in weekends and you know I thought people who took Saturday and Sunday off we're kind of wimpy and you know then I started taking weekends off and then I started taking vacations and and now I'm far more normal in that respect you know I used to believe in you know staying all night at work you know if possible two nights in a row that was kind of a cool macho thing now I'm not not I'm not good at that I won't make good decisions but I don't don't get some sleep so yeah both in terms of how you work with people and teams how you empower them you know hopefully you get better as you get older now you're you're pure genius your cleverness may not may peak in its twenties I don't know it's hard to measure these things so you if you give up a little bit of that you get something where you can help others in their young years do their very best work you are known as a very competitive person and I must ask you back in the days what was the Apple Apple boss Steve Jobs was he your favorite opponent well he like in a weird sense kind of grew up together I did the software for the Apple to which their first product microsoft did most of the software for the original macintosh so we actually had more people working on that than apple did so that was kind of a joint success then Steve left Apple did a company called next that I chose not to support because I didn't think it would sell very well and it didn't then when he came back Apple we did a deal to support Apple and help it get going again and then he did such a phenomenal job that the his phone his tablet started to dominate the industry and Apple actually became a bigger company even than Microsoft which were up until then we've been more profitable it did this mind-blowing job and into that period were more competitors we still saw each other and then if he got sick I got several chances to set and document length about how lucky we did and you know he was a unique person and in in a lot of wonderful ways and in some pretty extreme ways you know he he pushed things even harder than I do so quite quite unique because you both had like quite a reputation auntie I don't know if people knew how close you were I well there's been some we did a thing together that Walt Mossberg had a sit and talk about how we'd enjoyed our work together that was about a year before Steve died and then the Walter Isaacson book talks about an afternoon I spent with Steve that was literally just five weeks before he died we were discussing chest hair with with the Magnus and also intelligence and that intelligence can be many things and you are obviously a very smart person but when are you not when I play chess with him you want to try argue well it's a predetermined outcome because we we have we know it might be but yeah you should know that he played with Zuckerberg yeah lovely Kirk and it didn't go well for him either so we shouldn't be too nervous now that when I win I lose over twenty hundred players players about 1600 it goes pretty quickly yes this must be if we because we have a table here so if it's okay by you is it okay by you sure describe how this will be its speed chess right I'll have 30 seconds you can have as much time as you want and then then we'll see how it goes they'll be punching a clock or not we have a favor clock yeah I have the born in D oh this is exciting I'm better exposed in the sack but you Bennett I'm actually fairly good at go that's another board game did you know before you started did you know that you were partially to thank for history success actually I didn't know that I'm glad to hear it as a sponsor in the beginning yeah super Wow okay he's talking you know the game is on well that was quick I love it I usually laugh long right yeah well on this particular occasion I had to violate one of my main principles that I never play for cheap tricks and in this case this case I did it if he had played rookie one here instead giving an airhole for the Queen now now for the king I would I would have had a losing position whatever I wouldn't go to Sunday congratulations anyway and I think imperio basically I would say thank you very much for taking the time to be here with us tonight it's it's been an honor to have you on the show and good luck with your work yeah you're only a way to double what's going to happen they're just a bunch of meetings hopefully I'll spread the good news in my annual letter and get people committed to more more help for poor countries no party not for me but it may be for other people how do you never party uh you know I sit and talk to people but mostly I talk about malaria tuberculosis except for people like that I am a fun guy thank you very much yeah thank you let's go send in the camera thank you sir thank you so much to all of you to my wonderful guest good luck with the gates Metacom the a-team okay okay

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Length: 18min 45sec (1125 seconds)

Published: Wed Feb 01 2017