Andy Anderson | The Nine Club With Chris Roberts - Episode 190

well we are back huh we're back at the nine club everybody today we have a very special special special guest mr andy anderson is with us dude how are you dude dude i'm well are you well yeah every time i see you i feel like you're swell yes are you ever in a bad mood yes frequently frequently do you put on a you show your bad mood or do you kind of put on a uh i go in a cave you got it you have a cave yeah yeah your personal cave yeah i just go out without my helmet on so people don't know who i am oh okay oh without your helmet on your helmet yes the helmet gives you away for sure yeah right so and then i can just kind of like linger around and like don't look at me and then i don't know it's what sucks is when you're in a terrible mood and then someone comes up they're like dude what's up i'm sorry and i'm like get out of here yeah you know oh it happens dude it happens yeah i i don't know i mean you are you know you've exploded into the skateboarding scene man you're very popular he's got one of the best selling boards out there jerome i heard i heard that's amazing and uh but i i go through the same things too like i'll even if like i'm walking down the street and i'll see skaters like all across the street and like or like turn my back or like go the other way you know because sometimes i don't know okay do they know who i am do they not know who i am am i gonna say like what's up they're gonna be like who's this [ __ ] weirdo [ __ ] saying that's you know i mean like all these thoughts run through my head so i just i i just avoid the whole thing and i just turn away yeah fair enough even when i'm in a great mood i go the other way doesn't matter what mood i'm in i think it's hard when you're like in the middle of doing something and someone comes and says something that's always tough for me like working out like if you're working out you're like going hard or you're skating skating and someone comes up they're like dude you're like what's going on man and then like you try to cut it short you know yeah but i've seen him a contest man kid people flood they come over to you man like crazy it's pretty awesome detour was wild yeah it's wild definitely do you know what the allure is to you i mean do you know why these kids love you is it the age you know you're kind of like because i feel like the older you get the younger younger kids relate to younger kids right i think not that you're like super young but you know what i mean well like i'm i'm 25 now okay and i look younger you do so i think i get like both age brackets you know by how i look and then how i act you know right right how you act maybe i think they might like him because of his skating too no this i mean that's obvious right but i'm wondering if it's the kid it's a little like out you know uh i work hard at making myself approachable yeah and i feel like a lot of skaters aren't a as a maybe a approachable yeah somebody else isn't but that's something that i focused on right right right because when i was a kid and stuff i would teach skate lessons at my local skate park and i'd actually work for the city okay so it was always like hey man like kids are going to know who you are and you need to like always have like a good face on in public best behavior because i was like working for the government teaching skate lessons so it wasn't like like people knew who i was just because i was at the skate park all the time right right so i kind of and i'm just that friendly guy dude in high school like i knew everybody mm-hmm in high school so like i love that i get it man i i don't know it's just kind of and the mustache doesn't i mean it works it works sometimes a mustache can throw people off you know i'm saying if it's just the mustache oh listen like tim you know whoa that's how it starts though it starts with the mustache first i don't i mean i well at least it for me i'm speaking on behalf of myself but uh mine started off as a mustache too and then eventually grew into you know what it is now yeah a little bit but you've never that's been there for how long you've had four days but i've never cut it but it's like since how long do you think since i grew hair on my face [ __ ] 15 19. it's the same thing with you right you haven't yeah i i just don't grow hair so i you embrace it never shaved there you go yeah i like i'll take a trim to like some squiggly whiskers every night but this is all i got if i shave it i'm gonna look like three to five years younger that's a good thing though you know i'd do anything to try to make myself look younger my hair got to a certain length and then it just stopped growing like it would split end or whatever so i've had like the same kind of region of length of hair forever the same stat like i just don't touch yeah [ __ ] right it's growing just i love it hey shock the world man one day just show up different you know shaved head they're gonna know who he is yeah yeah like if i had regular jeans like my beard would be down to the ground by now but i just it just doesn't it's weird that your hair stops growing i didn't know people if they don't get it like click like cut every now and then like he'll get the split in yeah that's when it's just like it just keeps the sides of this chill this guy ain't taking care of me i might as well just stop so if he got those ends cut he'll shoot himself okay okay and then now i got that graphic to like kind of tell me how long my hair should be okay there you go that's like shoulder no your hair how long is your hair though if you if you oh are we talking like what's up what's up oh he's getting lit oh yeah it is long yeah get loose man dude just above the nipple there nipple height yeah okay even even just add some length to it yeah yeah yeah yeah do your thing yeah hair just let let it all down however mine is always in a little little bun yeah how long is your hair probably about the same yeah oh nipple height a little hair [Applause] oh yeah it's about nipple damn oh yeah when you you got a month or two to go i think for the nipple he's got me yeah it's there though it's there are you gonna put it back well i'll let it i feel uncomfortable i like it dude thanks but uh hey thanks for coming on the show man listen you're always always requested you know it's not like i mean nine club's just coming back and doing our full swing but man people always get andy anderson on the show yeah you know and here we are well talk about them on the experience start to cut you off we talk about you all in the experience and people love it man i've been i've been wanting to come on forever dude and like when i came by last time you guys weren't having people on so it's not even an option but like yeah but i told you when we did the the freestyle video i told you i'm like dude as soon as we get back bro you're you're coming off that freestyle video was too much fun it was fun it was definitely a treat people loved it well i was talking to andy he's like you know i really didn't know chris was that funny yeah like well like after we filmed that and i watched it and i i was like literally laughing out loud i had to re-watch some nine club episodes and be like dude that was a joke wait that was a joke that's [ __ ] hilarious dude this guy i have a very dry sarcastic sense of humor which i think people just tuning in and getting to know it like i've gotten a lot of comments like man that guy's a [ __ ] dick dude like he's an ad like you know what i mean they they haven't watched enough to get that humor yeah which is fine you know yeah totally be yourself yeah right exactly i just like i don't know sarcastic it's fun you know the original definition of sarcasm what it's like comes from some word sarcasm or something someone was telling me the translation is to tear flesh like dog that's my demeanor that's why he would yeah flash like dogs there we go yeah that's that's me in a nutshell it's weird you're a cat guy or is it going to say yeah opposites attract yeah let's talk about little andy okay little andy grew up in white rock white rock rock rock bc white rock british columbia british columbia that's just outside of vancouver right as you're crossing the border yeah you cross the border five minutes you're in white rock you're in right right so you're not too far from the city then yeah not far at all like 45 minutes if i like i kind of live on a hill and then there's a beach and then i look across at the states oh amazing what was like seattle or something or yeah the the town there is called blaine oh okay the white rock of the states is like just but i call vancouver like san diego of canada because it's like the wet the south west coast gotcha yeah yeah you know what i'm saying i know you're saying but there's no la though no there's no la of of a regina that there it is yeah you gotta can't forget about regina yeah yeah that's a little inland right that's our l.a yeah regina is that the other side yeah or saskatoon for that matter saskatoon's up there i love the names in bc they they come up with the most fascinating names okay i got one for you i was i was working at ultimate for a little bit and that's kevin harris distribution company up there and i was doing cold calls and there was this one town in winnipeg called winnipegis win a pegasus wow and they would they would just get me to call them just for the sake of like hey let's get andy to call winnie pegasus you know like that was the city name isn't that weird shout out winnie pegasus do you remember the skate shop you would call over there uh yeah no i don't know i would have been impressed yeah yeah if they didn't call it win a pegasus skate i don't know what they're doing yeah that was pretty sick so white rock yeah they have a painted rock there they have a white painted rock they have a big white rock how how big are we talking oh it's on the beach yeah how big is it is it a big white rock it's about the height of the ceiling okay from the wall to like like here okay so it's pretty circular it's like a giant snowball giants okay giant snowball interesting roger google did you google that yeah of course that's what it actually is it's a giant snowball because there's raj in boston they have the uh what what's a plymouth rock rock yeah that's pretty small it's just a [ __ ] little rock and they built a cage like they put a rock in a cage and they call it plymouth rock and now here's white rock they paint this white they paint this rock white yeah well there's a marketing baby marketing old town after it there's there's whole stories about it dude like legend legend has it i love that rock okay this rock was like this sacred piece of granite and it was like sitting in the same spot forever and then the white man came and wanted to build a railroad right through where the rock was they had to move it 20 feet over and it was like this big thing is like seriously you have to move it 20 feet like can't you just go around it and it's been here forever you know so is there a train that actually runs right through it yeah it's the amtrak amp wow amtrak so like i live up just up the street dude like if you take the five five goes right into canada just past my house oh well the amtrak wow goes right past my house like dude i'm just down the street from where i live so growing up there little andy let's talk about little andy real quick little andy when when did you discover skating what age i was first inspired to start skating at the age of three wow how do you know tired at three that's amazing if i was inspired to do anything yeah i was uh staring out my living room window at down the street and this skater just pushed by just one of those iconic pushes you know and he was in the middle of the street and i was like i want to play in the middle of the street like come on like that looks fun that looks free you know and just that the aspect of standing still and moving at the same time just that whole concept gliding i was stoked so i asked my parents for a board and they gave me one for my fourth birthday so my first day okay april 13 2000. 2 000 you're four years old yeah goddamn that's so rad what board was it just a regular wait wait wait wait what year was it again 2 000. 2 000 yeah i started skating in 2000. 21 years 21 years it's easy to calculate yeah yeah yeah thank god even i got that one so you got a board at four years old do you remember what board was it just uh yeah it was a switchboard so it had uh four wheels obviously i'd hope so but it has three wheels like that's not a skateboard but it had a foldable handle so it was like a four wheeled scooter oh and then you put the handle down and it would turn into a skateboard yeah it would turn into a tail skid like the handle would be the plastic so it would actually fold into itself was there like a groove on the board that the handle would go into yeah it would uh it like created the tail so you kind of step on the handle interesting wow huh okay so did you use it as a scooter you just strictly skate or bump strictly like i used it as a scooter to learn and then it was like i can't even say that dude it was it was just it was harder to maneuver as a scooter right you know the scooter you normally got the swivel yeah you got it you kind of need that for the handle to be of use right otherwise you're just kind of like hanging on so it was it it made an obvious progression that if the handle's up you're not doing it right so the wheels turn so when the handle's down that kind of locks the wheels into place no the wheels didn't turn it was they just didn't it was like a skateboard with them gotcha you'd have to lean okay gotcha gotcha gotcha and so you wrote on that for a while right yeah you were like okay listen time to upgrade i needed i need a real board yeah did you even like see real skate tricks at that point four years old at four i don't know but pretty soon after because my home park the white rock skate park was built in 97 and it's like it was like the best park when it was built now it's considered not very good at all and it's kind of decrepit it's all asphalt in between concrete ramps oh wow and there's like big cracks between the asphalt and the concrete i'm sure there weren't like maintenance or updating to it it's the rail the rail it's the park that freaking musca musca crooks yeah with the boom box where he got slammed at in fulfill the dream oh and fulfill the dream got you that's my home park wow that's pretty epic dude yeah dude i was like yeah man oh yeah so that was before your time though so you skated right after musca crook that thing pretty much yeah so that but the scene was pretty hopping and then there's like a local skate shop called board kennel and that was like so highly coveted so you would take your little half board half scooter to the skate park yeah and skate around i was at four i was doing cul-de-sac so cul-de-sacs work your way up to right right skate park yeah a little intimidating sometimes with for a little kid oh for sure oh yeah so maybe five or six now you're going to the park same board you had that board for a couple years when i started going to the park i started getting like hand-me-down boards okay yep so they like it'd be like cracked and they can't skate it but i'm like five right i'm damn sweet yeah i remember i remember my first set of like real skateboard wheels and i i always look for them because i don't think the brand exists anymore it had like a like a spiral with an arrow on it i have no idea but i just remember like someone handing me these excel maybe i there wasn't a brand name on it but that's probably what it was i just remember being at an event and somebody won the wheels and they didn't want them and i was like oh you got brand new ones oh yeah nice yeah dude so you're getting this kind of uh you're kind of building frankenstein board right just whatever trucks wheels and the the lib tech with the slick oh yeah oh libtech that was from canada too right i don't i don't know the history of lib tech but i think it was a snowboard company yeah i think they're from the washington area oh okay yeah but you could break them and like they'd flex to the ground but i was like five right so so i'm like yeah perfect it's all it's perfect i'm never gonna break this yeah so but going to the skate park back then that young you're probably seeing tricks going down and now you're like the light bulbs going off like oh wow this thing's flippable it's jumpable i can do stuff on it rather than just scoot scoot yeah no straight up the the progression is came came really well dude from four to seven i was just kind of messing around in the summer in the winter i'd put it away but it was like my main thing right right and then one when i was seven i i when i was six i put it away for the winter and then i'm coming i'm turning seven and that summer i didn't pick up my board again and i was getting kind of like antsy or something and my dad was like you don't seem right okay i'm gonna take you back to the skate park and see if that switches your mindset or something right interesting because i hit a point right like dropped in the biggest ramp at the park i thought i like did everything that i could do you know one of those plateaus at like 7 dude like so dumb i'm over this dad i i and then and then i dropped in the biggest ramp like first thing just being like yeah i knew i could do this and it was exhilarating because i hadn't done it in a while and i was locked in so that was the moment that was the moment that i'm like this is me for the rest of my life okay and were you even all laying at that point or you're just doing fly outs a lot of fly-outs canadian fly-outs oh my god oh wow so i said the the park was built in 97 but i lied the street park was built in 97 then there's a bowl there that was built in 89. gotcha so they built around that yeah so they built around the bowl yeah but the bowl is like the last bowl to be built without coping what it was like this weird transitional stage so in the 70s oh this might be the part that i've gone to like rick did rick rick ever skate this part oh yeah yeah so this one must have been his local park too because he used to [ __ ] that park is it the one with the big hip that he used to do yeah that's that yeah it's a part and penny would skate has gained there too no way that park is legendary yeah okay it's all coming together yeah dude so i don't know if you guys know the expo 86 event that happened in in vancouver so that was like skating back there the biggest thing for skateboarding to happen like rodney mullen and tony hawk and soy and like freaking everybody was out for that at that time and this guy monty little hosted the event and he also built the really famous snake run called ceilin it's right between seymour mount seymour and lin valley okay ceilin but uh it's this crazy snake run that he built in 76 oldest park in canada concrete i mean just laid the car wow yeah it's impressive so well designed so that the flat bottom of the whole snake run slowly goes downhill so you can just be a beginner and kind of cruise at the bottom oh cool but then all the all the s's like intersect so there's hips in the middle so you can like you can cruise down and then go over the hips back up and it can be like as difficult or as easy as you want it right so if you if you go on youtube and look up radical moves you see it's like uh it's like a video it's like a two-hour long movie kind of of that event that's amazing you can see tony hawk just posted footage of him skating in it oh really okay oh wow i'll just check that out 86 expo right yeah damn but yeah so so monty little built that bowl and then he built griffin bull and then he built whistler bowl and then he's building white rock and he had to go on vacate this is legend he went on vacation and he had a partner and his partner was like trying to be innovative and like include like more half pipe style like you seeing other places they were doing more coping bowls so it's kind of this blend of like a snake run but there's no snake to it like maybe it should have coping there's like a ditch section like huh there's this weird awkward era of skatepark design any legend that he the guy came back and tripped out that his partner just did this weird [ __ ] to his park yeah some something like that yeah he's like what the hell did you do what did we do were you smoking up here bro so uh okay so that that's the park you grew up amazing rick mccrank chalmers oh chalmers dude chalmers has the flyout bail clip okay in his uh what about sluggo sluggo yeah yeah yeah yeah dude damn yeah that part that's rad to grow up at a legendary park like that i mean at the time you didn't know [ __ ] legendary but you know that's amazing and it it really shaped how i skate because that park is kind of a street spot of a park right like all the all the ledges have like rounded coping okay like uh i guess doesn't lock you in at all it's really good for crooks perfect like try to smith it or something oh yeah you know it pushes you right out yeah it pushes you right out dude that was the funny part is that again due to her when i saw you there i was like oh you're here to skate the street contest you're like no she's in the park i was like what like he's on the elliptical team for the park skating you know i just he's did you see his run dude oh my god yeah dude that was i got i got so blessed in that run man oh because then you say you hurt your knee or something yeah there's a whole story behind that dude yeah we can we can go we can go deep into the into do tour to ledges to transition to yeah like flak freestyle freestyle is huge for me because in the winters you get all you have is underground parking lot or your garage or you have that yeah yeah yeah and you just i don't know i grew up limited space yeah limited space doing like boneless wall plants that was like yeah [ __ ] dude i always wanted to wall plant that was like that was like my thing dude i want to be in the air and kick the wall and jump off but that's so funny because at that time when you're skating like so many skaters were going like this one direction of the tricks they were doing and you know what i mean but you were looking at all the whole big spectrum of skateboarding back then already it was like like were you always looking back into like in the past of skating yeah that that that was kind of my my technique because i would watch current videos and i'd be like kick flip nose slide nollie flip nose slide heel flip front nose slide that all look the same to me as a little kid i didn't understand that a nollie flip knows like how much harder that is or something yeah right and that was all i ever saw anybody doing and i was like well what else like i feel like i can't catch up right so i would watch like the z boys and then oh wow i tried to be a pro 70 skater yeah yeah that was okay yeah what are we doing eight years old maybe now where are we at oh dude i i don't know okay so yeah so going through the years i gotta bring up i gotta bring up hippie mike so when i was seven my sister was skating with me too amazing she was really good actually she stopped skating uh like a long time ago now but she was shredding dude she had like feeble stall smith she could do like the 50 50 feeble back tail in on the quarterback older sister younger sister older sister no way yeah it's pretty bad at that time who was better was she better or you better it was definitely neck and neck really okay and then my parents got her into skate lessons and there was like a minimum age of 10 for the lessons but they were like could we put her little brother in right the lessons too and he's like it was hippie mike hippie mike was the instructor oh that sounds like a hippie mike don't give a [ __ ] hippie mike's like yeah man well he saw me skate you know i did my little like fakie through like fakie around the world on the bank and stuff he's like yeah you can come into the lesson gotcha and then i i had the okay and then hippie mike really shaped a lot of my tricks like he's the one who taught me how to air walk and even tricks i still do today i learned as like a little ass kid like the front side big spin but with a grab like frontside varial okay wow i was doing those early grab it took me like 15 years to learn it from early grab to late grab but it's like generally the same trick like out of a bowl or something right yeah or like to disaster because there's no coping in the bowl so you could land disaster rolling right right right and i worry about [ __ ] catching here yeah yeah hey shout out hippie mike yeah hit me mike dude he taught me so much he would uh he would do like go up a bank and spin as he's coming down to okay i just saw you do that recently on your instagram yeah i was like this [ __ ] how is he not dizzy as hell right away like that did you see that drone i didn't think how many spent you did like 20 spins going down this bank it was uh it was 13 and a half everyone's like everybody's oh dude he did a 46.80 i'd just be dizzy as hell yeah we're talking about spins it's it's a trip dudes 360s are like their whole own game so when you're on flat ground and you're doing 360s your toe side wheel or if you're going front side one of your wheels is rolling forwards and one of your wheels is rolling fakie yeah so it's like this weird not forwards not fakie but when you're on a bank you're always going forwards and you can pump the actual bank like you're on the down yeah on the down yeah so like potentially you could like pump up and then go back down what interesting you can use if it's mellow and grippy you can really like torque them on banks it's like huh whole different tricks amazing did that take you a lot of tries or did you did you try to go back up the bank after no how did you even like understand that concept you know what i mean like a lot of people don't understand still don't understand go back up the bank i guess i understand it but i never thought to try it yeah i would never think to try it i guess i think i think it's a freestyle thing yeah like if you're a freestyle skater you just kind of know that stuff right like if you're a vert skater you just know how to backsider but if you're a street skater you'd be like how do you how do you backsider yeah true yeah skating with you is completely different than skating with like somebody else because when we went across the street we were doing that that like freestyle thing that you're not showing you bro i was like damn i've never seen it like that gnarly explained yeah it's like way different like because you see like freestylers do that back in the day like i would see perry wielander or even rodney yeah and like you the way you did it is way different well maybe looking at it now i'm just like damn dude his skill is the way he's doing that because they would set themselves up to get themselves ready to get to do their little performance you know you know in a freestyle um contest or whatever so looking at how you were trying to teach chris i was like dude yeah the way you're doing it is way different like almost i didn't do it like that almost like up like upgraded oh big something big time yeah because he would just literally we went across he just jumped on his board and started doing all kinds of [ __ ] and i'm like still drinking my coffee like god damn like but it was so interesting it wasn't like a regular and we were doing some other [ __ ] that day but it was so different like you were just like okay and then leaving you just you went over this wall didn't even know what was on the other side put his foot on did a foot what was that what the hell was that a fast planter he just rolled down the dirt and into the street huh i call that trick a a slow comply because it's like a no comply but you have to stall it on a wall i saw i saw bill danforth do it there you go yeah dude you know about all the old oh yeah yeah that's [ __ ] so dope that's one thing you know about kids these days like they don't really do their history or not that not that they should you know obviously i think there's a lot of but it's like how far back do you go of course yeah like and if you do have like someone like would you say his name was bill danforth bill danforth but the guy that was showing you um he'd be my hippie mic if you like that that are kind of showing you the way on how he skates so he's obviously inspired by the old school way of skating yeah so then you're like okay well maybe i should start you know paying attention and seeing looking into these guys totally man so that's rad i mean and that's paying it forward and i think that's one of the things especially like you know especially where i'm at in skateboarding that that was done for me so yeah i feel like you know these days that's definitely neglected there's a lot of kids that are 25 younger and they don't give a [ __ ] about the past you know they care about what's current so for me i definitely look at it like it's i admire that you hey really pay attention to history of skateboarding and really like you know it inspires you to do what you do yeah that's amazing it's it sure does dude like all all of my tricks that people think are new came from yeah came from back then right imagine if he was doing it but posting like you know nbd but like you know like i i paid my respects to the people that came from like you guys and stuff like that but it's interesting from his standpoint that he's paying his respects to everyone a part of skateboarding as a to transition to vert like whatever it is you have to like you know all of that when i'm like oh yeah what bill danforth i don't know i respect the guy i don't even know who he is really though so that's like that's incredible as well so yeah that one that stands out for me because yeah bill danforth definitely was impactful for me like along my journey yeah yeah yeah yeah right dude he's like the only bro to make it that still pushes [ __ ] yeah yeah he was one of the first guys to push [ __ ] and made it like i wouldn't say made it cool you know or made it somewhat real like that was his yeah that was like him and randy calvin got a pass oh wow yeah even though it's been like a [ __ ] joke to a lot of people but like at the end of the day man they they [ __ ] pioneered that yeah yeah people doing it switch uh people always trip out like yeah bro that looks dope switch first of all i like i like it the way it looks thiago still yeah yeah i don't really see too many people do uh regular stance so i mean i mean switchbone go down all day for sure people try to do the switch push yeah but you got dudes like tiago who you're like whoa dude you switched manga looks sick yeah right oh you make it look like that but he pays respects to like because he's watching you guys game tx or something like that you know what i mean so yeah yeah i think that's definitely it's definitely where i pull my stuff from my favorite era is the era right before everybody mastered the ollie oh wow when like street skating was like popping yeah but ollying wasn't like a thing yeah you know you're a street surfing for the most part like yeah just like run and jump off stuff and throw it under your feet i don't even know that arrow man are you finding old magazines and stuff like that and that's how you look at it or youtube youtube stuff can find anything on youtube dude dude bill danforth has this one video out i i always talk about it it's called street survival and it's like an hour and a half long like this is how you skateboard like narrated super cheesy like starting with the push and then the tic tac and all this stuff yeah but all that stuff you could rent those like there was like a video agreement in my local video store they had those videos and i'm like [ __ ] yeah i i'd avoided those ones because i didn't need this step by step i think at that time i was more like looking at the contest right yeah right but all that stuff's important though for sure you know even nowadays we joke about on the show but like kids can barely push to the the the 15 stair that they're about a tray flip yeah and you're like yo that push looks very scary like yeah yeah you should learn how to push before you try to trade flip those stairs probably like real i see it all the time yeah dude it's it's it's it's frightening the basics are very important to skateboarding anyway in this video they do like a how-to kick flip and the guy freaking lands on his tail like they still didn't have it you know right it wasn't [ __ ] clean like no they did the first one all right we got it move on yeah yeah exactly one in the bucket so going back to growing up at that park the uh what was the name of the skate park by the way in uh white rock well it's called white rock skate park but it's actually in south surrey it's like four blocks ah it's right there yeah right right so did you get uh then like shop sponsored or park spa like how did you climb up the ranks there so hippie mike was teaching me and he comes back to hippie mike dude those dude those early days protest skateboards protest skateboards yeah roger knows man protest was like the dream sponsor for me you know he had his own company hippie mike that was he'd be mike's company yeah protest protest skateboards yeah that was your goal that was my goal bro okay but he like wanted me to be able to kick flip first of course right there's a criteria that you have to meet yeah but it was just like trying to get on protest for for a long time and then different stuff happened dude i i i when i got on protest wait no that's that happened later on actually when did you start teaching hippie mike how to skate oh that still hasn't happened yeah that never dude hippie's just so funny man like he's like the first guy i've seen that put a trucks and wheels on a two by four amazing and he filmed like a whole two by four part wow i gotta check hippie mike yeah he's got some footy dude so you were trying to get on this protest skateboards and where are we tired are we now older in age i wanted to get on protest since i was seven okay but other other stuff happened i think my first oh wait no when i was nine my so my dad started taking me out every summer for a two week trip because he he could see how much i like skating yeah and he's like supported it dude supported the passions man i swear i have the best parents amazing that's awesome and their parenting technique was like oh he's passionate like let's let's feed feed whatever's making him happy right and i was like i feel like they were the first generation of parents that did that yeah you know set you up for what you kind of were into which is rad right yeah but not like jumping in were they helping out with like decisions or like let him just do everything yeah i was like they gave me full reign they didn't know how to skate they don't know what's cool or anything because you always hear like you know staged at parents yeah people you know would you call them soccer moms yeah like you know whatever you want to call them you know so you didn't have that they were not at all they were just giving you they were facilitating how to get to a b and c and getting you to do what you want to do yeah right that's awesome it's unreal so my dad started setting up these like we'd go to vancouver island for two weeks and every day go to different parks and i would just be like [ __ ] wrecked man like big bruise on my hip and like sprained ankle and like let's keep going man yeah my dad's like yeah yeah okay quietly from the car sure we're filming dude so much dad cam nice you gotta come out with the part oh dude i got my like 2008 video instagram we're on uh on youtube bro yeah 12 years old okay yeah so we were going on these tours and then what i was doing like early grab 180s off a kicker ramp and some guy offered me a sponsorship on this company called ego skates ego skates and like we still talk dude oh wow nice yeah lincoln mclennan so did he give you free boards at that point yeah he gave me boards he had this like website called board pusher and you would go on you could design your own board like i want to be camo and i wanted to say this and no one forward thinking [ __ ] right yeah for real yeah so how long did you skate did you have to go back and tell hippie mike that like listen bro i want to be on your squad but ego hit me up yeah well hippie wasn't too interested in sponsoring a nine-year-old hippie just wanted money for the uh the lessons yeah exactly right yeah that's that's all he was in it for okay for sure so how long did the ego thing last uh ego lasted a couple years till i was 11. and i would just get boards in the mail okay and like yeah like got a board like they'd last me like two months three months did he want anything did he want you to film or do stuff or just rap just rap that's it yeah okay and then one day i swear he changed his email or something and he couldn't get a hold of him couldn't get a hold of him and that was it yeah wow with ego but it was like it wasn't like a it wasn't like oh no it was just kind of like okay that's how it goes right ran its course and we'll move on and then i started making sponsor me tapes and i got on local shop coastal riders coastal riders when i was 11. did they give you free stuff or discounts uh a bit of both big discounts on the shop decks and stuff but that was like old school skate shop vibes where like there's like titties flash to the escape videos and stuff and i'm like sitting there like oh my god my mom's like what are you playing yeah you start trying to cover your eyes yeah yeah it's like picking out boards hey escapism used to be so raw yeah yeah that's for sure yeah yeah like late 80s early 90s right well it doesn't pass on youtube now oh yeah well yeah right yeah you're not gonna be able to see that no can't monetize that man no um so you're going through what was the name coastal riders coastal writers they were like they were like the g doubt shop you know like chains and like so you were hyped to be like writers i was shocked oh they said yes yeah that's amazing i remember they're like yeah come down to the shop and we'll talk and i was like oh [ __ ] and i had the meeting i'm like 11 and this dude comes up i remember they had like a stuffed beaver in the shop that had like gold chain with like a golden wheel on it wow this is sick let me ask some real quick were you wearing the helmet back then yeah so ever since you started skating you were wearing yeah that same helmet no different so you were wearing a helmet ever since you started skating yeah ever since i started and then a big push for me to continue wearing the helmet was like being in skate lessons and then watching like the instructor take it off afterwards and feeling so like what the hell i thought i thought you wore that right like this is you're lying to me almost yeah like i felt kind of betrayed and then i started teaching lessons and it was like this weird time like 15 and all these people were telling me like hey man you can't wear a helmet and like turn 18. you know it's not gonna you can't wear a helmet and like get in a magazine right you can't wear a helmet and get a girlfriend like you can't wear you know whatever well like oh i was never like i'm gonna wear it forever but i was like well like let's just see what happens yeah all those things just started happening and then turned 18 and i didn't take it off and i was like oh those guys were wrong i love that you weren't detoured by all the comments you know what i mean it kind of like just made you peer pressure yeah it just made you solidify who you wanted to be at that time you know what i mean that's a critical time sorry to cut you off that's a critical time and young man's adolescent adolescence right that that that peer pressure 15 you want to be cool you want to be accepted like yeah that's a good you know that's a big move i was committed to it i never really got bullied or anything either you know what i mean like so i never felt a bunch of hate right you just had like some comments like like you were just bringing up right that would make you think about it but you're like you know what i don't care you know i'm just gonna do what i'm gonna do exactly you know well you probably saw it more when social media came around right what the comments about the helmet not even dude i've like maybe i'm gonna jinx myself but like i gotta like a like surprising lack of hate i think people see you in the like there's no way listen your skating talks for yourself yeah exactly maybe it's how i interpret it you know what i mean because some people might say [ __ ] and i'm like well they don't they don't know anything so i don't even right yeah i don't even yeah i don't even give it credit oh yeah so maybe i just had people in my corner that i respected more that or i didn't even know dude well listen man you're you're a lot of kids favorite skater so you're actually setting a great example for these young youngins you know to helm it up or protect their dome you know no doubt cause we just grew up in an era where that was like i never even wore a helmet right like when i was out there skating my parents never said put your helmet on your knee pads and your never the only time i would wear a helmet would go in pals gate zone totally had to rent a helmet same thing so not even used i know i know we talked about this too and like i i just didn't understand when i was seeing like oh you had clips coming out and you had the helmet like i didn't know your story so i didn't know whether like i was just like man he's wearing a helmet that's that's different yeah what i mean because i'm not used to seeing that especially for my error like that wasn't the thing like you said going back to like skating contests yeah so i was definitely like thinking like wow that's that's pretty amazing that you know he's doing like he's wearing a helmet really like because it's definitely a little like different for me to see that but in hindsight now seeing and knowing your story and and how it's all developed it's like dude this is it's rad that you kind of like you said you just did your own [ __ ] and you didn't give a [ __ ] about what anybody thought i appreciate that man yeah bro thank you seriously i think that's amazing bro and i think parents love you because they're like oh thank god somebody andy anderson's got his helmet on like it makes it easier to tell their kid to like well if andy anderson's wearing his helmet you know well that's the thing like how can you expect anybody to wear a helmet if they want to turn pro and there's not a single pro that wears a helmet bro and i see these like for for the longest time even in the bowl contests these guys are doing the gnarliest [ __ ] in bolt and not even wearing helmets i mean in bulk that's some crazy remember on a half pipe or a bowl or some [ __ ] no you wear a [ __ ] helmet yeah if you got skills like great you know but at the end of the day things can happen you know what i'm saying so like i mean i would always wear a helmet if i'm skating a [ __ ] a big half pipe or a bowl or some [ __ ] just because so that would definitely i wouldn't feel more safe doing it if i was getting a ramp yeah i just don't trust myself on a ramp basically but and i feel like for street skating too like pads and stuff all that i mean you're probably so used to it now but it feels like kind of uh restricting restricting yes right totally but anyway congratulations people love it i mean you know what i mean like kids parents yeah all that stuff and and also real quick do you have like a pro helmet out he's got his own helmet company you have your own helmet company yeah i i started my own helmet company see that's as you should yeah straight up mind troll mind control that's one of your helmets right there dude yeah i'm surprised you didn't bring us through your pro do we do a collab or what's up i know i did all the graphics it says mind control on it perfect it says mind control in the fire hydrant too you've got a thing with fire we'll get to the fire hydrant uh little i don't know what to call it there's something behind that i love the fire hydrants man but going back to the uh coming up now you're on the skate shop right you're on the with the beaver with the chains and all the the cool shop um how do you what what comes after that when do you start so i i gotta i gotta say when i got on coastal riders i was still wearing like full pads full pads i mean you're 11 years old yeah so it's appropriate yeah yeah yeah yeah and i was riding rails perfect so you went back to writing do you ride rails now yeah yeah see so i like i i've been riding rails since i was 11. yeah and i freaking became vegetarian or pescatarian when i was 11 too so i'm like i'm pretty much the same person okay i haven't shaved i've changed my diet yes it just got red that's amazing yeah so just stayed true to that so yeah closer riders was legit and then i kind of had a falling out with one of the team members i don't even remember who it was and like i'm not trying to talk down on coastal at all i was so young and the kid was probably like 16 or something just talking smack okay and i was at this at the skate park and guy's like hey you ride for the same team as me right and i was like yeah yeah he's like that's so weird because you suck wow and i was just like and i just left and i never went back to the shop wow wow that was it no one had contacted you again well i didn't i didn't go back yeah yeah i just ghosted them dude i feel so bad about that to this day are they still around yeah oh so you've got have you gone in there since or oh yeah oh okay yeah we're all tight and all the guys on the team were all tight right right but it was like that that had me a little shocked is that dude that that said that to you still there you don't remember i don't remember who exactly it was okay thankfully that person knows where he is he's watching this right now being like god damn i made him quit no i made i made him andy anderson yeah all right we're gonna use this yeah you know what i mean straight up so what'd you do after that that might have sparked my my like pathway away from street style okay oh because they were like represented street skating right where i was from okay so then i got on started hanging out with pd from skull skates skull skates which you still skate for skull skates to this day which is weird we got to talk about this yeah so i got on skull when i was like 15. 15. 10 years and that that's a is it a shop as well that the cd's hot shop pd's hot shop and they have skull skates yeah which makes skateboards steve olson yeah yeah steve olson dwayne peters yeah christian soy hammerhead legend has it was originally designed by skull skates and then and then he started his soy and took the shape gotcha right i think that is true okay bill danforth rides for skull skates who else a lot of a lot of guys dude carlos longo so they started giving you boards oh i i still go into skull skates with money dude i'm like uh how much for the shirt you know what i mean like yeah it's it's just it's a intimidating shop you know it's what you want a skate shop to be like they'll be like you come in looking like a kook or some [ __ ] they'll just tell you to get the [ __ ] out okay okay like that's literally right there right like no cell phones allowed so like if you're texting or something like in the shop they'll be like hey no cell phones can they like giggle at you or something and then they just [ __ ] kick you out if you don't put your phone away wow god damn the old school ways wow okay okay they started the same year powell started 76 1976. so this is a skate shop that started then and is still going yeah that's incredible that's a long ass time wait where are they based at they're in vancouver in vancouver i'm pretty sure they started in uh regina all tying together yeah vagina i'm pretty sure that's where the original shop was huh i wonder why i didn't go there when i went up in vancouver so they started giving you boards maybe discounts and everything where were you now like 12 13. 15 got you that place was like a whole like you said it was a whole different type of they were all into like transition skating there yeah it was hard to find a popsicle stick deck in that shop oh okay in fact they came out with a whole line of popsicle stick decks the year that shapes came in like they're just so anti-culture they're they only sell shapes when popsicle sticks are in and then when like welcome blew up and everybody's selling shapes they just came out with all popsicle sticks i love it so they're like against the screen yeah so funny so you still write it from to this day yeah but how did that whole did you just start getting when did powell come into the picture let's talk about this real quick because it literally went from skull into powell skull to protest oh wait a minute hold on you actually then skated for hippie mike's protest company your dream came true yeah straight up dude and i was still riding for skull riding protest this is getting juicy yes i love this skull's like do whatever you need to do yeah baby like we've seen it all just just go so you stayed on skull hippie mike finally sponsored you yeah how long did that last lasted up until until powell dude so like skull was great because they had freestyle boards they had all the old school boards they were like teaching me about matt hensley or i'd be doing combo tricks on the quarter pipe and jeff cole would come up be like hey have you ever heard of chad fought mm-hmm you know i mean like you should watch this h street video like they kind of schooled you school heavy dude that's what skate shops should do yeah yeah [ __ ] history in the culture of this [ __ ] yep straight up dude share the wealth yeah that's one of their stickers like share the wealth teach a kid to skate that's so cool man yeah it's all it's all dope it's all like pd's brainchild do we know how old you were when you got sponsored by powell or maybe even flowed i would have been around 18 or 19. okay so we're talking five about okay so i got on skulls when i was like 14 or 15. got you and then protest in the middle between that and then powell so you were on protest for at least four years or five years or i i'd say i'd say like three three years okay and then how did powell even come into the picture so this is this is too good bro this is too good yeah let's hear it so it's some popcorn kelly yeah so skull skates gave me every shape of board ever and by gave me i mean provided me with like at the shop i could see any kind of board i want i'm like okay i'm gonna get the the steve olson's got the pointed nose and the dwayne peters had like it was more of like a like a like a wide bullet kind of like an old dog town board okay and then i wanted a board without a nose and i was like this sucks like i actually need a nose so then i started like they just taught me everything dude like you guys know ben chibber yeah oh yeah yeah yeah yeah dude so legend so ben ben chibber told me that when they had no nose on their boards they they would flip their hardware upside down and the very front so you could catch your foot oh wow oh really yeah what to skate handrails and stuff so you could like lock your foot so i was like trying everything dude i was like experimenting so you tried that technique oh yeah dude but it didn't work as well as a nose gotcha so then i find this board and it would primo super good but i couldn't do this trick on it and i'd find that board and it was like you know when you have a nice pointed nose and you do a front slash dude you just feel like you're carrying a sword and you're like cutting through the amazon like it's just the visual you know when you look down at it sure you feel something it's like it's sick and just feeling how different boards made me feel or oh they have like long boards that are popsicle stick shape okay but they're like freaking super long and then okay i'm getting i'm getting the slash dog this month and it's like 17-inch wheelbase or something wow and i'm like like a 16 like trying to like navigate this thing okay and realizing what tricks it would actually help with and what tricks it would hinder and right so from that then i got on protest okay and on protest i got the opportunity to make my own board so hippie was like hey i know you don't ride the regular boards so we're gonna try some other stuff out so we started out with like a fishtail kind of thing and the shop he was going through somewhere in china do they they would like remember the holes would be like on an angle so like my board was like riding like that whoa the holes were straight in relation to each other sure but the board was like oh wow and i got really good at heelflips that month all this stuff and then and then uh andy this guy named andy scottish andy he had a company called folk folk skateboards and they were making boards out of vancouver and they were like a little bit heavier than your regular board but the pop was insane and they'd last forever dude like he just had something special going on there so then hippie started getting boards from him and he's like okay now we actually have an opportunity for you to do your whole own shape okay so then did you get the opportunity to go there yeah oh nice and i had it all drawn out in my in my book right i always carry my notebook oh it's amazing you saw the drawing in there let's check it out yeah dude here it is that's the same notebook you've had no that's just [Laughter] so i had this drawing and i was like i know exactly what i want it to be like and i walked in and i was like there it is like it was on the wall he had already made the shape that i was looking for wow and i was like that's it and he's like well that's easy then we don't need to perfect it it wasn't like a compromise for me it was like that's that's the one right straight up yeah okay wow sick so you guys are on the same wavelength yeah totally both andy's both like the same shapes so this board in particular like my power board yeah is like a new and improved version of that original drawing got you got it so originally had like rounded nose and then it was square and it would come down just like my board come down like a v and then hip out and then it was like a big square table right right we gotta we'll talk about that in a little bit for sure we got it right here because i want to know yeah because every little groove on that board is for something purposeful yeah there's a purpose so we'll talk we'll get into that but keep going i wanna yeah so but on that board it was sick but i couldn't primo like on on the one side it was the perfect width for primo but in the back it was narrower which was aesthetically pleasing but then it wouldn't and then the tail was super square which was great for some things but i couldn't get my pressure points right so then like i started working with andy scottish andy at folk and we started like really hammering it down so we need to widen this out so it's exactly here and then we're gonna chop the corners off the square so that we can like get these pressure points and then i pretty much had that board that was it okay to bring powell into it so before all of that i was still just on skull skates kevin harris who's the first pro from canada freestyle skater wrote for powell legend legend he started a freestyle competition world championships and he started hosting that like just 20 minutes from my house oh wow okay so it was the world championship freestyle compass 20 minutes from my house and i had a skull skates kevin harris board which was just an exact replica of the powell kevin harris board with us with a different graphic on it okay and i like competed and showed up man there's a whole story behind that too but the world roundup was huge for me because that's what really solidified me as a freestyler okay before that i would i definitely freestyled i was definitely i already had the kevin harris board with the skid plates i already had that going on all the tricks and every you had everything right the primos the manuals okay all that stuff but then this contest was like okay like let's really push at this so everybody had entered like two months prior online flown in from around the world and i showed up like day of okay like yo what's up can i answer and they're like what who are you do they know about you at that point or no no no and kevin harris said the funniest thing he's like how do you ride that board i was like this is you this is your voice it's like so small like the the wheelbase is like 13. wow wow was it pretty skinny yeah it was like seven okay oh what we're just trying to freestyle freestyle boards so you're skating different boards already at this point oh yeah cause skull skates introduced me to like every kind of board yeah starting in 76 they had the steel wheel banana boards they have these freaking everything so you can go there and just get a history lesson just walking around the store so do they they let you enter the contest i assume they let me enter and i came fifth dude came fifth place in the amateur division okay and i did like all this crazy stuff like i like took off my shoes for one of my runs and i was like trying to like hang 10 and stare at the ceiling because it was freestyle dude you know like just do it and everyone else is like super serious like world championships vibes sure except for don brown he's probably standing on his head somewhere oh yeah he's staring up yeah was don brown there no don and pierre haven't come out yet but rodney's come out okay uh pair willanders come out like a bunch of guys for this contest yeah to watch it and be part of it kelly and martin oh yeah isn't uh are they doing it coming up in july yeah it's coming up really soon so the time's up if you want to enter it sorry guys oh man i could show up at last but it's gonna be like online this time though yeah it's online so you had to submit your videos and then and it gets judged and then they're insane about their judges dude like it's probably the most like specific judging system like one guy's purely judging just style oh yeah yeah one guy's purely judging just freaking like technicalities yeah okay and they're all specialties from those divisions like well that's interesting i i feel like as i saw i saw break dancing competition and that's how they did that yeah it makes sense yeah yeah totally kind of it's kind of relatable i would i would think maybe yeah i think so so like russ howell is a judge and an announcer i don't know if you guys know russ howell freestyler yeah he's like could have guessed that anyone you're mentioning right now is probably that's more likely freestyle yeah he's arguably the first ever skateboard pro so wow he holds the world record for the most 360. he did like 162. what damn yeah i do like 13 i'm freaking hyped dude he's like going for like 10 minutes like oh my god that's a workout too i love that i'm learning history from a 25 year old yeah we can't possibly know everything i know you know but this is what i love what i was like you gotta know russ howell though i've never heard of russ longest handstand longest i don't know handstands dude and he grew up skating don brown he did that's a long beach look at that's amazing i love it though i love learning about this [ __ ] okay what was his name russell [ __ ] 162 spins yeah bro and i'm sure he gets his arms in there so she's going hella quick oh my god there's there's one guy right now named ryan bernelson and he's from like delta like same place where i'm from right around white rock okay and he can do 70 spins but like when you're spinning that much it's a specific setup you can't do it on a regular board oh i'm sure right you need like steel wheels in the back okay so really really heavy wheels you want them to be as heavy as possible and then light grippy wheels in the front so when you're starting you can like really push them wow there's 360 boards so like if you want to crack a hundred there's no way you're gonna do no or crack 50 even it's weird i've tried so many times now i know why i can't do it barely break three i know [ __ ] yeah so so you entered the contest fifth place did you get a trophy or anything or a money or gift certificate or what did you get they're so good they they give everybody a prize back oh yeah you come in 30th and you get like at least five dollars five bucks that's cool what did fifth place get i i i probably got another board okay it was the first year of the contest too so i was there since the the first year of the world roundup pretty proud of that 2012. but you just you said also that it solidified you as a freestyler yeah so that's that that was your but you skated so many different things but did that mean something to you be yet to be identified as as that yeah that would that that was huge for me okay because freestyle is such a tight community yeah if you freestyle you know every freestyle right but like yeah that was going to say when did this happen exactly i know you were like 18 or something or 2012 2012. so imagine that in 2012 there was a freestyle freestyle competition yeah we had no idea like like it's like you know you know it's like it's very niche it's sony in skateboarding yeah we never even heard of it yeah happening yeah and neither do the guys across the street at the skate park what the [ __ ] going oh no brace that what are you talking about guys spinning around in the parking lot and they're doing something over there yeah like straight up there's a skate park like less than a block away and like nobody knew what was happening right yeah i love that so then that is that how you got discovered through that contest that's how i got discovered so so skull skates and powell are both like some of the very few companies that support freestyle got you so george powell would go to the contest he was there he was there wow he went he went there to pick up isamu said little japanese phenomenon yeah yeah i see him on instagram yeah right so he was like killing it are we talking about the same kid he's a little kid still a young kid he's like he's like 17 now 17 or 18. but you might be talking about azuki or utah maybe there's one kid he's got like a big he's got like a stylish push he does like a big oh yes he's at the contest every year okay sure little kid yeah yeah i've seen quite a few that are just yeah phenomenal well what's crazy about those kids is they'll be doing tricks that literally have never been done and then people comment oh mullen did that back in the you're like no he didn't actually okay like so there's this weird pushback with freestyle where it's like you see freestyle you think mullen right and everyone's like a mullen and if we can if we can break away from that as freestylers and start becoming like individual like oh my gosh that's that's this guy and that's this guy i know what you're saying nothing against mullen it's just about that individuality right like you're skating down the street like you're tony hawk yeah yeah right it's just it doesn't it doesn't mean anything right at a certain point gotcha especially because mullen invented like the kick flip the tray flip the heel flip the knot like all that stuff yeah he didn't invent the primo or the casper um true right he really invented street skateboarding right you see someone kickflip you should be like oh that's mullen right yeah yeah yeah that's like there you go that's mullin right all the freestyle stuff was before right right i'm sure he has many freestyle contributions but all the main tricks like the primo and that people still do this day yeah on a daily basis yeah pogo imagine i'm a good pogo no you don't no i have no i don't imagine honestly though imagine being imagine being rodney mullen and seeing what you did oh yeah like like seeing what what skaters are doing now he's like holy [ __ ] i i was the first one i don't know like you know like what what the worst is the word gnarly yeah the work he did on his own is what made us all here it's amazing right he really built the framework for us yeah yes yeah andy have you ever like uh hung out with ronnie for like a day or anything like i can imagine the conversation you guys have is insane well it's just funny because so when rodney came out to the world roundup which is what the contest is called uh when ronnie came out to the world roundup my parents were his chaperone to like keep him away from the fans oh wow well like bodyguards almost yeah yeah okay and then i was one of the fans to keep him away yeah so i had dinner with him one night at this restaurant white rock charlie don't surf all my homies used to work there when i was growing up amazing and uh i was like way too cocky thinking i was gonna be like similar to this guy or like be able to relate to him and we started talking dude he's on another level of thought sure yeah but yeah it's insane he's like staring at me like when we're tense he's like reading all my facial you ever seen that [ __ ] like the mentalist or whatever where they like it's like oh he curled his lip right right right you know what i mean like yeah he's guilty yeah yeah i mean he's reading you yeah straight up dude i felt so red like i didn't know what to do man like it was insane and then afterwards he's exhausted yeah you know like it takes a lot of effort to communicate on that level yeah and if you're not communicating on that level then what are you doing right like i can't wait to have him on the show oh my gosh i'm going to be exhausted oh man rodney is just such a such a different animal man i love it such a different animal in the best way possible absolutely after being on going on tour with him and and skating for for blind and just seeing yeah his day-to-day and how he works and just it's it was definitely yeah he was on a different wavelength that i mean i tried to understand but you can't it's like you know right yeah skateboarding is one thing but then you try to understand him as a human it's a whole different [ __ ] vibe but a great individual always had the best energy always has the best intentions for the people that he was representing at that time as far as being uh you know because he he wasn't a team manager but he was like the guy that you know well he acted like one too i mean he he did drive the van he did but i could never look at rodney as a team manager right you know what i'm saying right especially at that time he was like more of a mentor yeah you know to him um dude but yeah he's definitely [ __ ] the raddest dude ever he isn't there yeah yeah i just can't i can't imagine like what you said kelly like imagine being him and looking at what you did yeah right like holy [ __ ] let me let me watch what i taught naija bro see what this guy's doing my tricks now well you see someone like i don't know a kick flip like el toro or something yeah you're like oh yeah i did that one the first one i did were doing on flat ground yeah he unlocked it all for everyone blocking it all dude yeah insane and taking it to such an extreme level it's incredible so george powell he's going to these contests he sees you do you end up talking to him or does he just kind of take note so powell is really good at not stealing skaters from other companies that's one of their like big motives got you and i was on protest so by his personal morale right he had to talk to hippie mike first did you know he was going to talk to hippie mike i did not know okay so george so hippie mike gets a phone call from george powell did they know each other at that point already too no they didn't know each other oh wow so that's even crazier the george powell this is hippie mike man who is it wait are you wait yeah [Laughter] can you imagine that conversation do you have like this engineer colin like this dude called hippie mike i know he's probably just like took some mushrooms or whatever he's like what he told george yeah you can have him but you got to give him his own board because he just spent like the last two years designing this board with me for all his tricks and stuff okay so from day one on powell i i got to design my own shape wow so you were going in there because hippie mike never turned you pro right you weren't pro you had your own board i was about to go you were hitting mike was about to turn you pro george powell you let's see the graphic dude yeah do you have it in your book yeah no no no no it was originally drawn in my book though so what did you want foreign screaming face like just like the mouth was like this big oh wow okay and you drew it out and everybody was gonna be okay yeah did he be mike then call you and be like hey dude i just got a [ __ ] random phone call from george powell watch you on so at this time i was already doing freestyle demos with so with kevin harris this is a few years into the contest got you so kevin harris had me doing freestyle demos all across like we go to county fairs elementary schools we even go to universities sometimes okay what and do the freestyle demos and like teach the history of skateboarding amazing like literally and i also share knowledge on indigenous cultures we we had a police officer named troy derrick he was an indigenous police officer and he would like tell his story about how he's challenged with racism growing up and you know like being called racist names from his baseball coach and stuff like that and we all tied it into like skateboarding was his escape from all that [ __ ] as a kid and stuff so i was doing these i was doing these demos and then after one of the demos hippie mike came up was like andy i got some bad news i'm kicking you off protest wow just after uh right after deb yeah it's like a good scene like grass field everything yeah remember that com you know i don't remember much you're like wow yeah so i was like what getting kicked off he's like because they're putting you on powell bro no way he's like no yeah but what was your i mean obviously you're probably stoked but you're like did he know you wanted to ride for powell how does he even know that well pal well like i just i grew up watching all those videos dude banned this ray barbie's part and badness was like all i wanted to do but he also probably realized that this is andy's opportunity you know like here's this little homegrown company that's maybe big in canada but here's this global company that he has but then also making this decision for him you know what i mean like not that that you wouldn't have been you probably obviously head over heels but at the same time like they made that decision for you yeah you didn't have anything to do with that decision right you know what i mean yeah but it's a great it's a great decision yeah they did it but he did it he could have just been like oh you know what hippie my i'm good bro yeah you could just tell call george back i'm gonna ride with you yeah i mean that's some loyal [ __ ] if you're under real to break it down but like you're already getting the blessing from hippie yeah yeah this is for you bro come on straight up and and and he said it since the beginning that it was like he wanted to build a platform for me to get noticed if you go on the protest skateboards youtube channel there's like a million videos of me dude like we would go out filming all the time oh wow and just put out youtube videos because he he thought of youtube as being the future sure yeah which it is he's right he was right yeah absolutely so it's just like there's so much footage from those early years i would have to go check this out i didn't even realize that that existed how many views are these things getting are they are they up there probably like like 800 dude wow 800 views yeah about to say 800 000. yes hippie mike's making a fortune off of you he's got those things monetized but would you like you would just go out for a day and skate and that day you would put up on youtube yeah stuff or uh no we would do full edits too yeah tons of different stuff you know he would always take me to spots he would always take me to spots i'd never been to before he was always like get in the van okay here's the five stair varial heal it i was like i've never very healed a five star you're like nah dude you got this and i'd landed you like you were right dude he got me to like a feeble like a like a 14 rail with like big cracks in front of it and all this stuff damn he's just taking me places i've never been and be like go you ain't no freestyling so what happened then so okay you you say okay i'll take the powell thing now do you have to call george or how does this all transpire then dude that that just that was like because what a phone call to make or receive right well now now george is like i consider him like one of my closest friends it's amazing like george is such a legit dude and he's like the person i can talk to about if i have new ideas for something he'd be like nah that won't work oh that might work oh that'll work if we like it's beautiful to spit balls yeah have that freedom yeah yeah skaters don't have that freedom and i'm having that knowledge and like you know obviously through the years he could definitely kind of pinpoint on what would work right and right right and so oh so what happened there did you have to call him or i don't even remember i remember i just remember hippy going you're kicked off protest okay but did you now are you on on the team like powell or are you flo or how does this how does this work i jumped the whole ladder right because i got put on by the owner of the company right oh wow yeah it wasn't tm i didn't send in a tape yeah like this guy is on the team yeah and then and then he threw me in the van with the power guys to go on tour right and i had like my shape which still looked super ugly at the time like didn't have the right cuts or whatever with a kevin harris graphic on it because they didn't have a graphic obviously got you and i'm in the van wearing my freaking helmet as a freestyler like and everybody is like super cored out and i just did not fit in at all to that to the team at the time right oh yeah you know what i mean did you feel a vibe it was i think we got along yeah really well socially but like at night time they'd always steal my helmet and like piss in it or like they'd like put it under the van and then like back out oh damn like it's like hazy i'm sorry how old were you at this time are you 18 now i'm about 18. still 18 years old man that's got to be that was that's the last thing you want is like to have that you know he's you know i didn't see you down you know what when you you guys did it to me like everyone did it to me i felt like yeah but when you're at that age coming up we're still hating you yeah all the time but i'm used to it by now but no yeah i i at that time you're someone new getting thrown into the next page and they i mean george put you on they had no probably awareness of this or not even a say yeah no say dave didn't have a say right okay so this was like this executive decision yeah yo he's in the van indeed i'll tell you why i didn't get invited the next few years no really yeah dude i was like that [ __ ] just didn't work out i mean he made a great call but i mean the way things are done in skateboarding like usually they they run it by the team they make sure that everybody's going to be like or they throw you on like a little trial like little test run and you're going like a little trip with everybody to see if the vibes are right exactly it's almost like that executive decision almost like hindered your ability like no matter who you were they probably would have not accepted you right away right right right it's like you're andy anderson you're kelly hart you're chris it doesn't matter who yeah who was in that van and i'm wearing a freaking like beacon on my head sure right and that's that's i'm sure that stood out yeah it's it's it's easy to attack and i went into it realizing that like i'm like i'm gonna get so hazed i wasn't shocked at all you know i mean i was like okay i've seen how this [ __ ] goes down yeah it's almost like set up to fail from the beginning just the way that it happened right yeah yeah but you're built for this [ __ ] it worked i mean obviously but by a blessing every single morning i would run away from wherever we were staying and gra go to a construction site and ask for an extra helmet oh really wearing construction helmets yeah the whole tour because i was a little kid running up asking for a helmet yeah and they would give you one you just find construction sites what the heck one of those hard hats yeah yeah yeah yeah i need that [ __ ] yeah it says supervisor on it that's fine i'll take it man i like that every day i found one dude oh my god okay like the craziest thing so then they would [ __ ] that one up and then like i would leave it out for them to [ __ ] with because if i was like gonna hold on to it while i was sleeping or some [ __ ] what are they to do like my arms i don't want to get [ __ ] within that level right right how long was this tour it was two weeks two weeks okay it's two weeks yeah so i bet but i i bet you were skating damn good too yeah well yeah yeah now when you get on powell and you're doing all this are they actually starting to film for a video are they in the middle of a video is there talks about one well early days it was like if you want a clip you're gonna have to take the helmet off bro that's what it was you know yeah and unless it was like some next level [ __ ] sure huh interesting so that was uh that was definitely would you abide by that or would you be like no i need to i'm going to wear my helmet yeah yeah i just oh look raj found a helmet out there helmets anywhere you go yeah exactly when i pulled up i was like oh is that andy's sitting in the back yeah dude this is this is my steer dude that's so red andy shows up for one day and there's a [ __ ] helmet it was literally just like right outside there's literally a helmet in our driveway yeah because they're doing construction out back i actually did see that on the way didn't even make the connection you didn't take the helmet off back then the film right and then what were their thoughts on that oh it's just you're like you're not getting clips well it looks like that's not in the video what do you mean like skull skates did the same thing to me oh okay when i was a kid they were like hey we want to shoot this [ __ ] hardcore ad with you like go to ceilin bowl with deer man dear man was actually the filmer okay and i was like oh my god dude i'm gonna go meet dear man we got there and he's like okay warm up i'm like he's setting up the camera he's like kate take it off [Music] sounds creepy yeah oh like you set up the camera you take it off that's what it is no i'm keeping it on i like that you stuck to your guns and you know what i mean like and then they they got to accept you for what you ride and believe in you know your your values i just think of it like dude i just must not be good enough right oh that's what you were thinking yeah it's like if i was actually [ __ ] killing it then it wouldn't mean [ __ ] there had to have been a time man where you thought maybe maybe in the ban on powell like okay dude is this a time where i'm gonna get this yeah i think i'm just gonna wear this helmet but it was there had to have been right back then like what am i doing dude i should just not we'll [ __ ] wear the helmet i'm getting all this [ __ ] i'm they're not taking my [ __ ] photos i'm not like should i just ditch this thing and question yourself yeah i think it was the opposite dude like the more people didn't wanted me to wear it i was like i just have that much more to prove i love it yeah i love it and then when people people now if i'm not wearing one and skating they're like what are you doing yeah i'm like bro like raj he went out and found you one yeah he's like wants you to wear it like dude let me live bro yeah yeah people don't really chilling today this is probably gonna go on in a minute just let me chill yeah like straight up like everyone's just always telling me what to wear on my head but people don't probably don't recognize you without the helmet right yeah that that's a huge bonus yeah it's almost like uh it's almost like genius marketing yeah you know what i mean that's like you put on an outfit right you're like yeah you put uh like ghostbusters or something like that put it on everyone knows everybody i saw a ghostbuster [ __ ] car the other day i was like what the hell is that he's like batman yeah yeah exactly yeah yeah so you put it on everyone knows who you are take it off dude sometimes that's not him what do you mean yeah i got my costume bro i got my fingerless leather gloves director rector riot streetwear gloves i know i got my my jean jacket her vest you know he's got his kit yeah and i take i i wear something different like who [ __ ] that guy exactly that's i love that yeah sometimes i wish i could put on disguise escape well at a skate park they know you helmet or no helmet you're andy anderson of course but just in the wild right yeah in the wild's a different scene for sure yeah i mean it's weird when you're like in like trader joe's and you're in line and somebody wants your autograph it's like and you get up to the counter you're like hi pro skater i don't know yeah you know you got to sign the receipt you're like yeah there you go so now huh no i was like whatever it takes listen discount for the groceries kind of a big thing um so you get back from the tours all this stuff no clips are you filming clips but they're just not putting them in any videos right like if i was doing something dope or something crazy don't film it they'll film it yeah if it's part of the thing but were they working on video yeah they they wanted they did the tour video but they wanted it to be on thrasher so thrasher wouldn't put my clips in so they were like how why would i film a clip that's not going to end up in the end yeah do you guys think we're doing that [ __ ] too i said they were doing that they wouldn't put in the clips as well oh yeah dude helmet clip and helmet photo and thrasher oh no i i i mean yes i have seen it because obviously skating vert and [ __ ] you see people wearing helmets sure but like an actual street clip no sorry yes have you been in thrasher since uh through powell ads okay i haven't got like a straight thrasher we needed andy anderson thrasher interview dude i'm down bro come on let's go i bet you would get some amazing tricks for it that's for sure hell yeah man so okay so when you're on pal and everything now you're you're on the team you got hazed your you know clips and everything like how does it start going and you said you're gonna already designing your own board from the get-go yeah and you're not pro you're not you know so on that tour we met stacy peralta at one of the last stops okay and he like let me know he's like dude i want to turn you pro in like two maybe three years but you're gonna have to make yourself well known enough that it makes sense for the company if the company's designing that weird board right yeah you they have to sell it right i guess so like when the board came out yeah nobody not even my closest friends not kevin harris not george nobody thought it was going to be popular right right it was like a passion project for me to make a board that does all my tricks but but was it in production or was just made for you just made for me for the for for the whole time i was on powell until it came out when did it when did when did you when did you turn pro what year i don't even know 2019 28 okay so just this is actually just recent within the last four years yeah within the last four years okay so up until this point you're actually writing your own shape that they only made for you were they putting graphics on this board yeah they would put like i could like pick a graphic oh anything i i would always get the the kevin harris graphic okay but it was made for a popsicle stick so there'd be wood grain like the og like his old graphic no it was like the yeah it was his old graphics right right yeah amazing with the beaver yeah yeah yeah huh so sick wow so you're you're growing your fan base already before you even turned pro like you could feel so then they were confident that they could sell this board well they yeah they were confident that that enough people knew my name that that something would happen right like they just did it dude they didn't think it was gonna sell everyone said it looked like a dick like like my closest friend like you're still riding that dick canoe bro i'm like right yeah well it works bro like check it out watch this trick well that's funny we have it this [ __ ] works for me every board dude everywhere all right dude yeah right here actually it does look like a dick yeah it looks like a penis no so here's the board right here i mean this shape is because i want you to go over this shape with us if you don't mind because every every little thing on this board every little nook every little cranny has something to do with a trick 100 100 this is a fully functional everything on here is for function yeah can you break it down of what each part is for i can i can't sure let's see it but i'm going to start off by saying in street and bowl it's might not be that common like this is kind of crazy that i made a board for all these tricks in freestyle that's how it works like you just get so good at whatever until you can get your own board designed around your trick selection so are you riding this board like you probably have a quiver of boards right you probably have a bunch i i have this board is my serious skating okay and then all my other boards i call them rat traps do you have a freestyle so hard to skate do you have a freestyle board i i don't so you use this thing for freestyle bowls street everything okay this is the chain all-terrain tv that's your battle axe do you have any do you switch your wheels up size oh wheels i switched from 56 to 53. okay okay gotcha bulls 56 street 53 trucks are all the same yeah okay mini logo mini logo trucks perfect 8.75 the trucks have to be a little bit narrower than the board yeah for primos to work right okay so run us through this board real quick because it is a very weird shaped board yes yes so there you go that's a good yeah that's a camera right there so right there so so as a freestyler who does primos this right here and this right here are like the most important pieces those are your primo nose and tail crucial so so like they're slightly different uh you could take that helmet yeah yeah just throw it over there everything's disgusting yeah yeah tearing up our road back there so this one's a little mellower okay so it's better for like flipping kind of the regular way where you see people do primo flips and then this one is a little bit steeper so it can flip kind of the opposite direction okay i see for doing butter flips were you trying to go up into pogo oh okay butterflip to pogo's tough kelly if you don't know uh this sounds incredibly hard yeah by or at least named by keith butterfield yeah i've been working on that for a while who did a painting of me which i gave to my mom for my mother's day beautiful that's awesome beautiful keith butterfield amazing artist and skateboarder mr butterfield so that that's the primos okay the other key part about primos is the widest point has to be in from the axle so if the axle if the axle is right here then then you go and it just kind of hits this wall so like most most street decks are kind of like flat flat flat flat and then they start to curve right which makes primo flips dramatically harder you want a little bit of wiggle room is that what you're saying yes you can kind of like step around yeah and there's less friction there it's like it's on it's two it's on two little bumps almost two little hips yeah so the reason for the the hips here is i wanted a completely symmetrically weighted board i wanted my board to balance in the center that's the issue because you have a wider thing over here and over there it's not so it's going to be off balance exactly so by the nature of this being square right also the nose and tail are the exact same length but we know the length seven inches seven inches okay but because this is square it takes up more space so it weighs more than the front okay so having that curve in equals out the weight distribution or the balance exactly gotcha okay that might be too busy for the camera to see the shape but yeah so that way when you do tray flips it rotates around the center if you think about doing a tray flip on an old school board without a nose it just doesn't flip right yeah it doesn't spin right and then most boards actually have a larger nose than a tail which i attribute to like when you ollie the tail comes up a little easier yeah okay because it's lighter if you want to do like a poked out kick flip which is which is a beautiful kick flip i was going to say chico brent is not having a problem with doing trey flips on these bigger boards that i'm seeing him set up you know what i'm saying yeah yeah because i know that i know that it is but um i know that he's definitely um capitalizing on it for sure because he's he no matter how big the board is that [ __ ] still looks the same yeah big boy yeah simon woodstock on the skin board dude there you go oh my goodness there you go yeah so that's the nose this the wider section is the tail yeah so the nose has this curve on it for when you do pogos so when you pogo you don't usually want to be fully straight you're often on an angle got you i was gonna oh if you do a carousel which is when you're in pogo and then you do somewhat of an impossible to another pogo what like if you land on a corner it's going to chip pretty easily so you want you want that margin of error so you can land you can go from that to that yeah people do it like i have one in my pro part but then i watch other freestylers and it's like an entry-level pogo trail so i'm like like people think i'm good at freestyle dude i'm like really pretty novice i'm just mastered what i what i can do wow but when it comes to truck tricks dude like look up sean burke truck tricks or primo or what do you mean truck tricks would be truck stand tricks like there's some people that oh i see you just specialize in truck stand tricks so it's like your feet are on the trucks right right okay okay and they don't skate smooth concrete you need to be on rough concrete so wow looking for that totally opposite yeah we're looking for the smooth smooth why the flat tail so the flat tail was like the most important thing for me so i could do truck stands on a ramp interesting on the coping on the coping okay with metal coping it's usually too slippery right but for my home park there's a bowl without coping and stuff like that sure and i wanted something that wouldn't slip off because with the rounded it's just slip it off go everywhere and then tail blocks too to keep it more simple okay right like tail blocks are just legit wow so then so that brings me to my oh there's so much more but my final big point which is these edges here okay they're like imagine if the whole tail was square and then it just chopped off the corners it's kind of what it is yeah right right and that allows for like if you draw a line from where your wheel is to what the contact point on the ground would be okay you have this whole wing that'll pressure point so if you want to scoop a tray you have your foot in the wing and then it puts up the wall for you to flick against you wow i love that thing could you imagine i i can't i i love that no i totally get what he's saying too it was awesome right 100 you know i you don't usually hear skaters talk like that though because they're not so detailed they just they just they go whatever works yeah they don't like deep dive into it there's a few skaters dude it's i swear it's a freestyle thing because like you'll you'll you'll hear street skaters talk about rails and ledges to insane detail like how much wax is on it yeah or where the crack isn't jamie foy's talking about rails yeah he's so detailed oh yeah yeah totally like the width of the bar all this stuff everything but in freestyle your board is your only obstacle mm-hmm so it's like your ledge and your rail and your quarter pipe so like that it has to be tuned to like what you're trying to do right wow i think it's fascinating that you because you know hey maybe a normal person be like okay cool i got my freestyle board here man i got my street board i got my park board you know but then here you are like no no i just want one board i'm not gonna i don't know i'll just switch my wheels but i want a board for everything i do and that i love that that's the stem from skull skates them with the weird shapes and the pointy noses they had the freestyle board they had the ball board they had the street board and i was riding all of those and then just taking notes gotcha i love them yeah yeah gotcha let me see that thing again real quick sorry i love it man what's the dimensions i mean i was probably out all over the place oh like how it looks like a penis there you go oh yeah like what's the length of it i don't know the actual length it's a 15 inch wheelbase well you have two sizes this is the big boy yeah the small one was made for consumer this is the one you skate that's the one that's when i ride let me see it's one that's huge i i think i have you gave because when you were here last i think you gave us all boards i think i got the small board which is great i think i can't remember but looking at that now it looks like a big board it's light for being a big-ass board though well it's the uh dude that's the other thing that just aligned like flight decks came out flight deck the way that that because this would actually weigh a lot more yeah what exactly is a flight deck what's what it's like a construction that they use yeah so normally skateboards have like a layer of wood this way layer of wood that way i think schmidt told me it's like four this way and then three that way or something have you ever done it where you'd like karate chop a piece of wood in half it only works one way yeah with the green with the green um so i took karate back and i broke a lot of boards yeah i got my got up to some color belt forget orange like a nightclub purple i don't know purple's pretty close to the black oh dude i was getting far in that karate class you know go ahead sorry so the the flight decks have five plies of wood and they're all vertical so there's no cross grain so good luck trying to karate chop it in half this wait because it it but it's also this like uh the carbon fiber that's the secret stuff right five plies minus you're missing two plies here yeah well it's actually two plies of fiberglass so gotcha okay but that's like very thin and the bottom plies just for show so you don't need that bottom ply of wood okay for the strength it's just so that you're sliding on wood not the fiberglass it's fascinating the the thing that trips me out the most is that like i don't know the actual sales man we've just heard but this is like the best selling board out there i don't know the actual sales either no in the world the marketplace of skateboarding this is your board's hard to come by it is very hard to come by but it is popular it's a popular board and i just find that interesting because it's not the normal shape you would see at a skate shop even this might be the only board like its kind when you walk into a skate shop i designed it for my tricks so if you do those tricks like i designed it because i couldn't skate another board right you know what i mean it was like i can't do all my [ __ ] on another board so i have people that buy like eight to ten they're on like i'm i'm on my tenth one because it's all they can skate because if they skate anything else it inhibits them from doing whatever trick it was they were thinking about so amazing a lot of freestylers buying your board very few because freestyle boards are usually super small they're different bro but if i see a freestyler on my board i'm [ __ ] following that dude yeah i'm hyped bro because that's what i designed it for right yeah dude one of the best things about that board is uh how well balanced it is thank you you can ride that thing either way it feels like you're riding a symmetrical board except it's not but like no matter which way to write it it always feels he loves the sport it's behind color right now yeah on the left over oh you're right you're right down below oh right here yeah that that was the idea of the balance symmetry is like you could skate it backwards right yeah and that that doesn't make me mad like skate it backwards that would actually get me stuck it does feel light dude it's light right yeah yeah that flight deck stuff is incredible that's for sure i want one just to like have it there's a cruiser board and i'll [ __ ] around and wouldn't do some [ __ ] on well this is a good time for me to give you my gift uh oh what's that dude this is the board we filmed the video on no you've been skating it this whole time there's a sticker on there too yeah dude it's got a broken truck it's like it's like fully yes dude and then it's like fully worn in wait is that really for us so for real yeah that's for us let me see that oh thank you man that's awesome wow you gotta check it out we'll take it look at that we filmed the thing you kept the board the whole time oh yeah emotional right now bro wow you gotta sign it for us that's actually got you yeah you have your graphic on the front and the back you have the graphic on the grip tape do they sell this graphic grip tape yeah they do they do they do always get an incentive thank you for that bro yeah dude got you guys man he's a great guy did you set up a new board or recently or have you yeah how long does one of these boards last you uh it depends if i'm in contest season or not okay because a contest i'll go through two in a contest at least in one contest yeah i set up two boards at least every contest yeah and then i i wear them in equally so if like something messes up on one like like like flash rain or if someone like pours beer on it or interesting i can just ready to go yeah wait so you put two different boards together at the same time they're separate boards yeah you skate one one day and then you skate another one the next day yeah you don't get like weirded out that you're used to this other you know even that's all i'm saying it's the same thing but still i had such a great contest run on this one i'm going to switch boards now but if they're both the same board but essentially the same setup you're you're getting used to them both at the same time because if you skate one one day okay you get a little you know used to it then you skate the next one and that's it's like no yes it's like the same and they're both equally worn in okay yeah so there there's no christmas complete yeah so you have two broken in trucks or a four technically yeah you know you get the wheels broken in all eight wheels yeah all like 16 bears [Laughter] all cross board okay i get it i get it yeah danny was that the boy you were riding in uh detour uh it was not no yeah because i set up two brand new boards for do tour so do you have a bunch of boards up at your house dude i got so many boards trucks for days but honestly they usually go quick like if i'm done with the one i i got a lot of people asking me for them yeah it's like right hey can you mail it to whatever country oh geez dude i'm not even at an address right now i'm sorry dude it doesn't fit in the mailbox bro you gotta hide under the bush come find it that's incredible bro thank you for that yeah thank you so so very thoughtful of you because we had a great time that was a great time bro and all those the graphics only scratched off because of the nauticus hydrant oh okay went over and handled the lattice yeah yeah i love it that's the spot man that thing is still there dude yeah i know i mean it's a fire hydrant it shouldn't go anywhere anyway but even the pole is still there yeah everything it's so funny you walk by there and skate like i had a homie mikey longing music yo where's the where's the not as fire hydrant dude like skaters that you look at that like that's some that's a piece of history right there in skateboarding everyone else that's not even i know it's just nothing dude yeah just a fire hydrant yeah dog take a picture and a lot of us want to try to replicate what nadas did on that thing and it's not easy it's not easy it's not easy to do that that's for sure i've never tried i'd probably get smoked let's go to it let's go go try yeah i'll probably hit my head on the pole then it's the worst possible scenario yeah kelly did the worst possible yeah everybody ever imagined yeah he even got nutted on that thing i don't know total destruction he got plugged yeah oh jesus christ like everyone was watching yeah it was a big crowd around him went viral i was trying to collect money go kelly go chris is laughing yeah it's all good that's the thing about that spot though you skate there for eight minutes and you got a crowd it's it's a big tourist time location yeah yeah yeah i'm just trying to freaking trick nobody's seen before dude like everyone's like what the heck dude that's skateboarding right there i used to do that and then just big crowd for me trying not to spin that thing it i got i got a trick right i i jump on the hydrant and don't spin okay and i just balance on the spike yeah and i just try to see how long you do it for yeah you know like try go one foot or something and it took me forever to think of this name and i was like how come i didn't think of this earlier it's called the not a spin oh wow not a spin yeah but it's not a spin nice but if you spin it's not a spin yeah yeah you don't spin it what do they call those words that are the same forwards and backwards palindromes yeah [ __ ] pound skateboarding power drum right there yeah i would have not thought about that that you yeah okay actually i got a skate riddle for you guys oh that's great at riddles by the way go ahead how do you switch flip out of a nose grind oh god i don't know hold on don't tell me no switch flip out of a nose grind it's an alley flip you got to go back you got to go back from where you started i'm stumped dude yeah you back 180 in back 180 nosegrind switch flip out oh so you're talking about the the the verb yeah he's using it yeah that's true though the plane crashed on the border of united states and canada where do they bury the survivors come on bro i know this one gee what's the answer yeah what's the answer they don't bury survivors ah you got it had to look it up real quick that's like the oldest guy's photos that's like the oldest riddle of them all man it's only riddle i know though tyler peterson was the one who told me that riddle okay tyler at due tour at duterte me he just came up to you and said i got a riddle yeah no well we we would like me this yeah me him and and becker dunn dude at late at night the first few nights before everything got super stressful in my head about the contest the karaouma party all that stuff was going down we would just go ham on like skate philosophy like just talking different tricks that could be done or have been done like talking about like air walk lip slides wow or like like uh just air walk nose slide for example acid drop nose slides in general i mean that [ __ ] would be next level hard it just doesn't just [ __ ] that doesn't make sense yeah air walk no slides walk tail slide invert air walk tail slide makes sense though yeah your tail is all there but yeah your nose so trying to like create these impossible like the other impossible trick what's the no comply kick flip okay like you do a no comply but then you have to kick flip it with the foot that it's on the ground oh you're doing that yeah you mean but not hitting it against like not parting against it is so hard because you're standing on your foot and your boards up here and you jump and you try to flick it right they're like joke tricks right yeah like if you could do it but it's like impossible but you can do it it's not going to be something that's going to be like you're going to be doing that all the time right ricky glazer did a no comply kickflip in front of me he's like one of the guys from braille yeah i gave him the challenge he beat it off like a a-frame i was like i can't believe you just did that because i met up with chris haslam one time in palm springs randomly okay he was there i i was there and i was like you know what check out my puzzle trick puzzle trick no could play kickflip and we tried it for like an hour chris seems like the perfect person to actually try that with yeah right right dude like he's the best i actually called him on my way here amazing i talked to him way later i was like did you get it and he's like yeah i got it but it looked like [ __ ] [Music] it was like you actually did it like he actually like went out of his way to do it another day like amazing it's about good bro any trick can look good any depends on who does it yeah who does it and how it's done for sure you know what does some somewhat the stuff like that is mike moe every now and then okay every now like nothing too crazy but something out of the norm like the possible late bat or late kick flip yeah i mean uh this like late pressure flip like all you like late whatever you want to call it i don't know and is freaking unpossible yeah oh my gosh oh yeah yeah yeah yeah the front foot bro yeah i used to trip off those i'm like what the [ __ ] are you doing how do you do that yeah straight up talent bro really though so now going back to the pal thing skateboard comes out it's doing spectacularly well so i was like staying with go before that i was staying with deville a lot like trying to like make it yeah what i mean sure and deville's the [ __ ] you guys know that absolutely he's been in the game for a minute he finds a lot of talent yes he sent me all the right places you know like at first i get bummed kind of because you wouldn't film my freestyle stuff and then i learned like no dude he doesn't he's not amped up by it how do you how do you film something that doesn't stoke you up it's just gonna like the footage is gonna carry that energy you know what i mean so that i i learned that later on being like wow like he like anyways that's besides the point it clicked for you right it was it was a trip yeah and he so when i showed up i was living at his house and he was going out filming on the weekends and i was like there through the week like let's go dude like well like i want to get some and then he gave me three filmers numbers okay and i was like okay like i called them all up two of the guys didn't respond and the other guy was nigel n.k.a nice natural's the best brother great dude yeah yeah valley for sure bro dude so nigel's the man dude yeah and i was already working with sean hayes okay so sean hayes is my olympic coach okay who i was introduced to by kevin harris who had the freestyle contest and kevin harris has been my like a huge cheerleader for me like this guy's in freestyle and he's gonna make it to the olympics you know what i mean everybody's like shut the hell up kevin this guy's in freestyle and he's gonna go pro for powers like shut the hell up like he like he made a lot of this stuff happen you know or at least predicted it along with making it happen like for sure he made powell happen for me by hosting the contest right and then he introduced me to sean didn't sean used to be the dc team major yes and and plan b so yeah he was like good at skating too yeah he ripped yeah yeah front nose master wasn't he was on rds right yeah yeah okay what's he wait was he on darkstar too i don't think so was he not on there i was thinking wait i was thinking of there's a lot of people out there kevin harris big supporter oh so i was working with sean at this time and i'm at deville's house and sean's like dude this is like your first like this could be your first and last shot with a filmer in california nigel yeah i don't know who nigel is right i mean like it's just a filmer that deville hooked me up with see he's like yeah like meet me at cherry i was like cool like let's go to cherry that sounds awesome okay but sean got me like so prepped he was like dude you better be ready to like destroy some [ __ ] you know what i mean sound like in a good way or a bad way in a good way like like i gotta i like i didn't show up like hey what's up i was out last night no because sometimes that could be right right but also that could backfire because now you have this in your head of like oh my god now i gotta die pressure yeah well i i do pretty pressure pushes me okay perfect and sean knew that as as my coach so he put it on put on the pressure and i was just so freaking ready that first day with nigel was like we hit it off dude i did i ended up 50 50 in that like green double kink rail and like figgy crooked oh yeah yeah it's in san pedro super gnarly it was last trick in one of the bakery videos right or yeah and like he like nigel took me to cherry then took me to this other rail is like brick run up and just like just hopping on rails you know what i mean okay and i i ended up 50 50 and that double kink and that solidified it like okay me and nigel work really well together the video came out it blew up like came out on his channel yeah yeah but nigel has a great following too and that's for nothing he really goes out and skates with dudes that are just not on the radar yeah he was like one of the first in skateboarding like really build up a youtube following been doing that and he has a really strong foundation on what he's built he does yeah he he grew up like showing p-rod what was up yeah you know like [ __ ] like when peter like helping bring up p-rod then and then he helped bring up like calvin hoffler and alex midler and all these other guys that that he worked with right that ended up blossoming yep yep so that that's so me and nigel worked really well together and then nigel was pushing me on advertising my board he's like dude this board's coming out like you tell me all about it like let's make a video on your board right the video on the board came out it did really well and then the board was gonna come out for powell i already had the graphic i was already skating my own pro board before it came out and then he's like you gotta go on braille like braille's like this huge platform and you could show the world on like they got like four million subscribers they're big you're big yeah yeah so i was like i was like i don't know like i like i don't know what i'm doing i've never dealt with these guys before yeah but nigel says it's a good idea i really trust nigel like let's do it and then that braille video like i made a full braille video i call it an infomercial now yeah about the board you went to their skate park and did it yeah i went to the skate park sat right next to aaron cairo and described every aspect of my board like in full detail right and it's like an hour long video first half hours explaining it second half hours showing the tricks that you can do right sure and that is why my board sold yeah wow they have a great fault i mean and it's all younger uh demographic as well you know it's definitely younger demographic but i'm always surprised who comes up to me that's like adult and they're like we're like [ __ ] dude they got fans everywhere yeah right it's actually insane but you gotta also as far as like skateboarding is concerned so it does resonate to obviously the older generation as well but then you're also explaining it to younger kids in a different fashion where they probably have not seen that before right so that's intriguing i would see i would say from a younger kid's perspective but then also from an older dude's perspective being like damn this dude knows his [ __ ] right you know what i'm saying yeah and i think maybe from braille i haven't watched too much but i feel like as a as a newer skateboarder it's more approachable and more relatable yeah to to to watch you know they teach kids how to skate yeah yeah and get them into skating right so 100 dude and that that's their whole mission statement is to like to help skateboard and grow right as a sport how long ago did you do these braille videos because i still see them pop up on my youtube dude i've done a lot of the way they film is interesting so they'll film like three to five videos one day right and then that comes out for the week sporadically yeah and then you have like you film a bunch over a weekend maybe get like seven videos done and then it looks like you're there for five or six weeks right you know what i mean yeah people think like people think i like live there you're still there yeah yeah yeah so it's it's funny how that works out now that's interesting that they film like five or seven videos in a day did they have specific things that they wanted to film that day like they already had a list like hey andy are you down to do this like we could film this today and that could be a segment and this and that yeah or would it be kind of on the fly as well like oh you know be cool like oh yeah let's film that half and half sounds exhausting yeah it is honest like they did one thing we're like yeah no for real super prepared and if you have an idea that they think's better than their idea then they'll just do that got you okay interesting yeah but they had one where was like paper mache pants so they couldn't move now did you know okay that's not up my alley no but it's interesting though it sounds like a big day like did you know all this going into it that did they explain like hey andy so maybe film like you know five or six videos like did they kind of prep you yeah i had nigel nigel nigel was introduced me to that world he explained it he's really good at like prepping people so he kind of told you like hey this is what they do they'll probably film like a bunch of videos in one day yeah yeah okay where is it by the way it's in the ghetto of oakland bro oh really you leave their warehouse and it's like ghetto bro i think they should rep it way harder like you go out at night there's like pop like [ __ ] like holy [ __ ] i didn't know it was up in oakland at all yeah yeah well andy schrock he has one yeah he's in revive in ohio yeah and then they have the braille one and oakland there are powers from that area i think yeah no it's very interesting the way that they they do that and like you said it rolls out and it's like weeks and weeks of content [ __ ] it's listen whatever you think about braille or anything it's [ __ ] smart yeah and genius they're growing skateboarding that's their intent absolutely so you tapped into their audience that helps propel the board and you got older people too that are discovering it it's fascinating i mean the board is still to this day killing it you i mean you got that shape you're not gonna make another shape right or are you working on another shape i'm working on it what are you adding to it he's got new tricks dude oh my god got new tricks he's inventing new tricks there's gonna be a part two to this well what i really wanna do honestly is come out with a freestyle board it's like a real freaky like a smaller one yeah like get a freestyle board on the market like right now all the freestyle boards are like from these really niche companies and skate shops don't hold them right but i gotta order straight from them yeah right so but if there's like a need for freestyle boards and shops not only does powell get in there because they're already dealing with powell but then they run out of the powell freestyle boards maybe they got to call up right waltz or mode or that's a specific right niche right you wouldn't be skating that freestyle board out in the streets no right you go you take it to a tennis court yeah like it's not even oh that's probably great for freestyle oh yeah like grippy ground like that yeah oh yeah nice i i do freestyle and clay quartz clay yeah i play tennis courts there's a lot of clay tennis shorts around here right yeah man [Music] i only saw one of those and it was in rome they were they had one next oh they weren't there this week on this but yeah not very yeah not common yeah let me ask you a question though because let's let's jump to shoes really quick because you got aetnies right um when did this whole uh oh just got happy throughout these years uh going up to edney's were you riding for other shoe companies did anybody yeah i wrote for vans for a minute okay and then at a ghost skate day event it was like the dc rep came up to me and she was like you want dc shoes i was like no i ride vans she's like what about pants i was like okay i don't see a problem with that so yeah i was wearing like van shoes and dc denim amazing nice and then and then vans just kicked me off dude they're like they're like now we're like wow we're not having that yeah i was like i ride for protest in skull i don't know right or they have a bdc dc logo on like the pant pocket or something definitely the bigger one yeah yeah dude that was my like a lesson i needed to learn and you need to learn it too you can't rap you can't rip van's shoes and adidas shirt or something yes we we talk about that here that's like a pet peeve of mine like real [ __ ] like i can't wear adidas like shoes and then like nike like sweatpants or some [ __ ] like i can't do that yeah well you can't do that but you also should never do that if you're repping one brand and rapping yeah i was like what so that was right in dc for a long time okay man i love the links oh nice that was my favorite shoe oh yeah and then how did eddie's coming into the picture or how and when so i think my first pair of etnies were like the barges and that's when i did the the long beach convention center rail the long one the 29 yeah the green with a yeah so i was like that was my first pair of etnies i was like well these obviously work [Laughter] uh i think i got him gifted to me from matt berger oh nice so matt berger was really my inspo i was like oh i don't i don't i don't know if i relate like what companies do i relate to and then berger's on etnies and he's canadian and he's a shredder like i look up to berger so i'll ride for the shoe company that he rides for you know or try to sure and then i was like a little like connection like maybe he could get me to but yeah shout out berger you're the man yeah yeah also made it to the olympics he's on the team yeah him and mickey papa okay wow oh desenzo didn't make it either yeah desenzo uh didn't make it by by one spot oh that's crazy but he might be going as an alternate yeah they have a bunch of alternates i think for sure i don't know if they're doing that though because of the whole stuff i'm not sure no alternative i don't know i was going to apply to be an alternate i don't know don't quote me real quick are you in the olympics yes yeah all right we'll talk contact the main thing that i love about aetnies they're the first skater-owned shoe company they made the first ever pro skate shoe okay with notice yep so like the advanced half cab came out like a few months later otherwise that would have been the first pro and then stacy peralta had like color ways but never his own shoe never his own shoes didn't vans have a shoe even before the half cab for skating yeah well they did for skateboarding but wasn't pro modeling that wasn't promo gotcha yeah ethnice was the first guy okay and it's and it's owned by two freestylers all right there you go yes dude that's my anyways pierre andre and don brown right yeah and the reason i'm so hyped is because i just finally met pierre andre i just saw that actually oh wow on go skate day and dude we had like the craziest freestyle talk no i bet he invented so many tricks i had no idea dude he invented the coconut wheelie what's the coconut wheelie it's like here you got a board it's like a one wheel wheelie one wheel wheelie no no not even bro here can you get that dubs it's like i thought it was a new trick so this is a primo yeah and you can't really primo slide on anything but something really smooth yep coconut wheelies when you're like this oh wow all right and if you're doing a coconut wheelie if i'm goofy going this way all your weights on your back foot i swear it's the exact same lock-in as a backsmith wow what you go on an angle like that interesting it feels exactly like a backsmith did he tell you why he named it the coconut wheelie he went to a bar and got a drink called the coconut wheelie right after so he's called the coconut yeah like i was like what a new trick i'm getting a drink whatever that is that's what it's called it could be called the rum and coke for all we know yeah it could have been the dude and then he did this other trick that i do all the time and it's funny because i call it a soul flip and he owns soul tech oh wow but you put your back foot over the wheel and then you just pressure point it and it does like a varial flip oh yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah you see kids do that all the time yeah pierre mended that wow and like all these different variations he invented the double tray flip the double tray okay he said he couldn't do trey flips he could only do double trick i skated with him flat ground really quick like this is like three years ago and first try he gets out and he does a double varial flip wow first try like what the hell how did you that's like that's hard to do but then double traffic makes sense now too yeah right yeah he it's really rad to see his love for skateboarding man dude like i couldn't believe that he's like one hand handstand finger flip yeah one-handed strong handstand double finger flip okay like all these tricks but dude the most coveted trick the trick i want the most and he's the one who originated it is the nose spacewalk okay when you're sp oh when you're space walking but going that way right so the space walk naturally pulls you this way it takes like a whole different your put all the pressure points are like completely different to try and go that direction and i've been like trying to master that it's for a year since 2012 at least and pierre is like yeah dude everyone was doing another tale so i want to do it on the nose like like do you have any idea how much i've like worked for that you taught you taught me how to do it it's uh not often if it's just a regular spacewalk yeah it's hard it's hard to pivot around too to do that you're flipping backwards he told me to ask you about the trick you showed him the other day his trick i showed him it was like what did you do that was it a caballerial yeah that that was that was his trick so like so the the one where you put the foot here and it does the vario flip he was saying go into it fakie okay and i was like okay so i'm going into it fakie and i go for it and it does 360. it's like cavalry okay yeah but it didn't he flipped it with his back pressure yeah pressure well i call it soul soul because pressures use the tail still right s-o-l-e or s-o-u-l s-o-l-e okay but pierre called it pressure to the way to describe it would be pressure yeah to get it in somebody's mind yeah cause you're not you're not doing anything but like grazing it right here right right so i did it like full cab and then he's like you don't have to 360 your body dude like and i was like oh wow it works really good like big spin flip gotcha like dude just crazy like when when you're a freestyler and you meet another freestyler you're like check out what i got in my pocket yeah you're like exchange things you know it's yeah yo dude like finally i could talk to somebody about this hey guys you're gonna understand me yeah it's for like i was up in in long beach for a week staying with mike osterman who's like former world champion freestyle skateboarder okay and we would just go on bro cause like he doesn't have anybody to talk about space walks with sure i don't got anybody to talk about g turns with right so we're just like yo oh my god he's showing me all these different freestyle shapes and like why this one is like that and why this one's like that like so in freestyle these hips like this is pretty normal okay and i thought it was for the primos so that you can kind of walk around yeah he says it's for pineapple flips like where you put your where you put your toes underneath your toes yes so you have the wide wide spot for your heel and then your toe goes right like they shake oh my god pineapple nickname was pineapple oh okay and he like i always there's some backstory always this song you're like imagine you had nobody to talk to about kickflips or train flips yeah yes or skating a rail or flat ground or anything to do with skateboarding more or less like it's it's it's exactly it's exactly that's crazy if you're the only street skater in everyone else skated vert only yeah you know sounds like freestyle it's a facebook group it sounds like they need a podcast man they're the [ __ ] ones you know how many how many listens how many views we got bro dude freestyle man i just like why doesn't it grow well there's no products available yeah it's tough right and no one's see i don't see any videos out there yeah no one's pushing it nobody's pushing you're pushing you're pushing it i'm trying dude there you go there's so much to be done i mean to be honest that's probably the most relatable type of skateboarding because a lot of people don't have a a ledge in front of their house or a mayo bed or ramp right right if you saw if they just have the ground in front you know that's all you need for freestyle 150 dude yeah and like when like when i'm injured coming back from an injury okay i can't kick flip i can't even ollie like it hurts my ank i could freestyle right that's interesting because because there's no jolts unless you're doing primo tricks like primo primo or something yeah yeah yeah but if you're doing manuals and space walks it's like that's interesting it's like a stretching routine yeah it's so good for your body prepping you to get back to where you want to be yeah and it work it tightens up all the little muscles yeah around your knees and your ankles and your hips sounds like great physical therapy great rehab for sure it really is like maybe if it was thought about in that way like i don't know i just feel like it was so uncool for so long that nobody had a a street credit card to like it'd be funny to do like a freestyle workout video that's what it boils down to there you go freestyle workout video man doing like push-ups yeah we're going to be partners well i would say you just kind of like do your warm-up tricks like all right this is good for your spine like into like loosen up your hips and everything else yes i just thought it was awesome that like freestyle might have went out but the freestylers kind of capitalized and went and started companies yeah and they aren't the only ones steve rocco did a great yeah yeah so that's what's pretty cool about that yeah so you got really excited about aetnies do you have something going on with them right now are you working on a shoe or anything or were you just strictly hyped because of pierre just hype because of pierre and don and you're you're you skate for them which i think is amazing that you are fans of the you know what i mean yeah like like i watched their skating i grew up watching them skate you know what i mean like that's like like i'm sure that half the people that skate for soul tech they know what they they know who they are they know what they did but maybe they're not like fans fans right like you're a fan yeah i'm like pierre andre like right oh my god dude i've seen you like i don't even know it's it's crazy like i'm a fan of don brown but it's not for his freestyling it's for his tough guy shots yes i'm a big fan dude i mean i'm a huge fan of those guys obviously because i work with them but like what they created for me as a child to look into that's why i love them yeah they crave these brands for me to love skateboarding and they might have been the face of it but this is what i'm saying yeah yeah but but they i mean behind the scenes they were but they built stuff for skateboarders to love you know go skateboard day don brown john brown dawn brown that's why i was like hell yeah i'm going to any skate park for ghost skate day that's where it [ __ ] started bro yeah that's like so legit so sick i loved it pierre was telling me that the whole new soltec building he designed in like 06 and it has no like it's fully self-sustaining off solar power i love that full solar power or panels on the top everything yeah i like the whole thing he's like yeah and i designed the curve so that it reminds me of skateboarding i'm like dude you're such a g yeah and he told me that this is just such an ad for edn's right now but he told me that edny's has been carbon negative for the last few years amazing so since the beginning he's been like environmentally pushing for that that's amazing that's great but now they're actually sucking carbon out of the like just by being a comp like who's doing that who was thinking about that long note long ago oh he's so in tune with that stuff it's it's wild right like it's super rad so i'm just i'm just uh beyond stoked so the shoes you're wearing right now you got like a is it a lace protector on there yeah bro here i was like what is this bro you got yeah okay oh yeah it reminds me a little air walk oh wait a minute is it built into the shoe okay something in my wallet yeah that's when he goes and pays for dinner yeah that's the best wait a minute so did you design this shoe no this isn't this is in their line this is a throwback this comes out next summer oh we getting exclusive right now oh yeah amazing and then the shoe comes out too without this oh it does it's like the windrow volk okay with or without with or without yeah exactly right wait so you can either get it without it or you can manually put it on or is it like you get one that either has it or not okay okay that's the mail air walk [ __ ] yeah that's what i said it reminded me or what yeah air walk was the first company to do it yeah but etnies also did it so it is thrown back gotcha and then they have the old yeah i always told myself like if i got a shoe on that knees it would have to have this tag and then they're like yo check this out it's got the lace cover and the tag i'm like dude you guys just did it okay straight up amazing dude so yeah it's nice little lace protector freestyle bro i can actually practice casper's not gonna [ __ ] his [ __ ] up i mean even regular skateboarders bro our lace is ripped to [ __ ] bird skater's gonna love that do you shoe it messed with with street skating at all or does it work just the same like kick flips all that stuff the the main thing it messes with is like when you look down if you don't want to see that like for me i look down i'm like whoa yeah so sick finally but like it's just a fashion thing at that point as far as function it doesn't get in the way of anything okay to be honest with you that part is very important to be able to look down and see something you like right super important definitely worst day ever so looking down at some [ __ ] and it's the same same with how you dress right like oh yeah if you want to like fit wear your favorite pair of underwear or whatever like you want to feel good for the day so when you're going out you got to try to focus in on getting that clip but that if that if the clothes make you get that clip let's go yeah let's go straight up yeah you're not ruining your shoelaces with that thing on dude i wear a [ __ ] helmet so i already gave up a long time ago this is why we love you oh thanks yeah i think of it as a helmet for your laces okay yeah that's a good way to look at it yeah for sure that makes sense yeah etny's plug hey i love it i love it i love it when you know you skate for companies that you're passionate about dude okay it was originally called etnix and they got a cease and desist from ethica not the not the underwear brain ethic hasn't been around that no it's like uh atonics it's honest what's the atonics it's not like schubert back in the day oh maybe that might be the case no we should do we should have pierre on the show just so we could go so he should be like i didn't invent any of this i'm getting all this hate mail now because andy told everybody coconut wheelie i was just drunk at the dick yeah straight up so they had to change their name man that's almost for the better but what was it at etnix ethnics and it doesn't know if i like that it was does it was a name because it was a good friend what's that it was a french brand and it was it was made around the word uh ethnicities like it was oh it was about how skateboarders were kind of like like a group of people that would like travel around try to take over territory like how we move around in ethnic groups okay i like that cause like you're wearing gangs you know we're like tribal yeah you know like take over this legend can you please move yeah yeah i'm trying to no yeah i know you're trying to sit down and be comfortable but you're gonna get wax on your ass dude that's what i always tell people whenever they sit down and you don't you that's that's your that's your get out of sitting there card right hey you're gonna get wax all over your [ __ ] you're gonna really want to sit there you're gonna ruin your pants yeah you could go over there in that area that air that was good no wax on that ledge over there right your pants are gonna be great over there yeah no wherever you see wax on the ledge don't sit there yeah or next to it or next to it yeah dude i think that you're man keep on walking like i said i think move all the way over there that'd be great just get in your car that would be great well listen like i said i think it's rad you're passionate about the companies you skate for it's very important you know it's important to me too man like so like powell 1976. skull skate it's 1976. right etnies is 1986 and then swatch 1983. you're on swatch too yeah really need a contact that's tight that is pretty legendary yeah skateboard [ __ ] i love it good for that amazing dude and i mean going back to powell i mean look look what they've done he's got two of them on double photo incentive two swatches on all times bro all the time you even look at it for time yeah this one's for time this one's for date okay that one's for la that one's for uh san diego yeah well most people they have might have a watch on the same [ __ ] time zone i know yeah yeah i know so we got one for white rock and one for l.a yeah yeah sometimes you know what time it is in white rock or san diego swatch is great i need a contact over there if you don't mind i'd love to hear from you guys dude i wear an iwatch but i want the nasa watch to have this isn't really she wore that one this isn't like you know attached to me i can get rid of this apple watch yeah bro um but just look at what pal has done like they've been with their videos animal chin everything dudes the history over there steve caballero is still on right still that man went from a vert skater to a street skater yeah he was he turned into street cab most versatile skater ever i mean i love it yeah right long-ass rails and [ __ ] like oh my god he's like pool coping handrails what's the difference yeah he's like verts out [ __ ] i'm street cap i love that he's so legit i love steve cab i'm team cab ever ever since he came on the show steve caballo came on our show i loved him so much i mean i was a fan before next day i went out and bought half cabs at the van store full price boom boom so good that's how i that's how much i respect them still buying them every day yeah i love that guy yeah so great but it's just like i said like the history the history of powell like all these companies it's it's very it seems like it's very important to you yeah for it is yeah and like 8th street you know like but but powell and dude just the way that they marketed themselves and the way they made they made skateboarding look fun mm-hmm how long has this board been out on the market how long about two years two years that's crazy the same board for two years do you don't switch the graphics at all on them no wow same one that's right yeah so that is drawn by court vernon court johnson coco he's well known yeah and he he did it since since the beginning right but then he left for a long time and the other artist would kind of mimic his style but he's like a mystic like he like he's a seer dude like so this this pays homage to like a past life that we shared so sick like 3000 bc where we were like in a boat in the wetlands going through like somebody else's territory and that's why the superiors are there okay you know storyboard here's the story behind it he that he does it pen and ink on paper old-school style he's in the computer and they buy but they they probably scan it in and then color it all right and he does hundreds of them yeah wow like george george pays more than anybody for a graphic i love that because he knows how much actually goes in it like with lance mountain he has the hieroglyphic graphic he sent court to like all the ancient pyramids to study hieroglyphics oh damn what old caves and stuff dude wow whoa to get full-on research he's like oh you want me to do a higher glove i need to go see like the mayan hieroglyphics and then these like cavemen and then right right yeah like you need to be honest he's making iconic graphics that last a lifetime wow yeah and like like the skull and sword he told me was like an ancient symbol for higher education there you go see and al almost all of his graphics fit perfectly into some sort of geometric shape like it's whether it's like an oval or a circle or like the the the classic graphic of the skeleton that's kind of doing an invert but he's not grabbing his board it fits perfectly into the power p like it's like the exact same silhouette crazy like you just trip out he's such an amazing artist and then to get him to work on my stuff was like what are you serious like i still call him all the time they're like hey what's going on like this is going on i got part two of that board coming out soon man i'd love to get a little graphic going so you have another graphic coming no oh you're not gonna put the same graphic on the scent on a different shape well i i'm it's not that far along yet okay well how many graphics have you had just that one just the one you've you've been pro for this long i've only had one graphic yeah you normally get more than one yeah that's about it yeah about every other drop yeah like every season but i guess that's what i'm saying imagine like your your first girl graphic came out and that was just your graphic let's go but if it's selling let it go it just doesn't happen no yeah the things are gonna this can't stay the same andy's making it work i know it's working right now it's working he's got it it's been two years strong going on three let's go that's incredible dude if it ain't broke man yeah sometimes you just gotta fix it run it yeah it's a trip hey andy does anyone have a tattoo of that graphic yet yeah yeah yeah there's this girl in australia that got one i think she was the first said it to you oh yeah yeah dude recently my friend troy actually in the native police officer freestyle demos with tatted a hydrant that i drew in my notebook and i posted on my story wow and he tatted that like all big on his leg is that weird wow that's the weirdest thing dude i have yet to see a crob tat or a nine club tab but i'm sure it's right around the corner you should hey draw it put it on your story okay and see what happens man i drew this one thing remember the guy with the curly hair i drew a little stick figure i don't know never saw that on anybody's body actually you know would be sick oh yeah the one you did with yeah uh andy howell yeah i was showing andy how i draw he did do skills i showed my skills the dude was doing a manual and he was on the front of the board like it's like you're like looking like wait what's wrong with this you're standing in the middle of the board chris haslam could figure it out i mean listen you know it's art it's art what are you gonna do you know maybe andy could draw something for you and you could post on your story but then he's gonna get the yeah but it's like a problem get it do a cry crab right now i'll put on my story yeah maybe somebody will you see he's gonna oh yeah there he goes notebook dude let's go tear off that page of that pickle board also i want to see that and you have pen with you have a pen with you at all times too pencil pencil yeah oh no you skate with the p yeah if it's like serious jesus christ how much [ __ ] do you have in there bro what do you what do you like with that lighter bro you like uh sage well i used to have to light my freaking shoelaces okay oh he's got a little cover for his pencil there [ __ ] sucks okay what the [ __ ] how about to sharpen that thing oh you sharp it with it wow okay so we do it bro i love it this guy's motion is please empty all your pockets and just i know he's got more [ __ ] a little showing caleb i've never seen before no that's that's pretty much it he's got the biggest iphone oh yeah he's got keys he's got a skull candy uh earbud things he's got a wallet well it's not bad yeah it's not a costanza wallet yeah i thought it was gonna be that for sure he's got a a gun spry gum i've never seen that brand before my last second tissue second tissue okay what else oh just the knife that's it another knife okay same knife what about the jacket nothing oh yeah oh man i don't think we've ever had anybody empty their pockets we got toothpicks toothpicks in a little thing yeah i know i saw that i had to grab it okay you know and then i got these for you i'm going to give those to you oh you don't you didn't have to golf but you'd since you like toothpicks thanks man i've been i've been chilling at the golden tea recently love it and carl's bats out i gotta bring up some teas there you go there you go i actually have another gift for you guys that i forgot to give you it's in my pocket please what is it indeed an album from rodney mullen's favorite musician bro oh okay this is a oh it's actually an album harry perry bro you know that the guy with the road yeah they did it in venice bro yeah i see him all the time he's still around oh my god around wait how you bought him yesterday yeah he's the man yeah have you ever listened to his music no this is his cd yeah it's all like it's all like spreading positive energy it's all very he's always happy down there he's rollerblading around he's got a little guy first of all you've got to be happy doing what he does yeah right really and trying to make people happy harry perry i never knew his name about a month and a half ago um he kind of like disappeared and everyone thought he was dead that's what i heard yeah yeah yeah then like also he came back and now he's not wearing roll blades anymore yeah that's right he was walking less than myself i wonder if he had an accident he's getting up there in age yeah you know he's not a spring chicken anymore harry perry at first i said harry carrie i was like what thank you for this yeah dude no worries she's really for us or is it for you i thought he just had it dude he always wanted to go buy that cd or buy like a shirt from him because like he's such a rat dude he's right he's the raddest yeah thank you bro let's put this right here man and then uh sorry you got some more things it might no that that one's empty now that's it that's it oh dude sunglasses gotta have the shades obviously yeah wow now we're getting cool now you're cool guy like guy in this over here we got like marbles is there marbles in there you got dice in there what's going on dungeons and dragons after the show she's got some rocks in there and some rocks some stones some crystals oh yeah oh yeah i mean i see joey trouche and he has a bunch of sick rocks and crystals and stuff and it's like it harnesses good energy right or bad if you put it into it you know wow yeah well i'm trying to just go for the good yeah there's so many spots out here with all the crystals and stones on the boardwalk yeah yeah i see them all the time and there's actually stores yeah there's a few stores around here rock stores yeah yeah it's pretty popular right now so what do you got all of mine are given so you never buy them and no is there any is there a problem buying these stones i i buy them to give oh but if i went and bought a stone and i wanted good is there any problem with me buying a stone no it's all up to your personal morale okay that's all i need to know mm-hmm okay but like i can't tell if you're looking at me or not i gotta i got a bunch in here you know this one's from court i found it on his driveway actually you found this at in the wild yeah well that's because wow that thing looks good are you sure this is a [ __ ] space objective ufo crashed and melted on the front line what is this thing this one's from nigel [ __ ] nka okay nice you know that look how easily this floats around along the table oh right it's almost like hovering see that is special but i just got this one yesterday okay who gave you this yesterday can you divulge or is it a secret jim goodrich i'm a photographer the photographer 70s photographer he took a lot of great like skateboarder photos back in the day been offered a stone before i'm not giving you one yeah these are really these are his personal stones but look at this one so jim goodrich just dropped me that the other day he's like wow that's nice what oh that's almost like a bullet it's iridescent too i see the colors from here it's crazy wow what kind of do you know about the rocks do you know what each rock possesses or is intended for a little bit not much okay okay i've been into some of these rock stores man everyone looks like i was interested in rocks at one point i wanted to go buy a rock wait so they're gifted to you and then do you give those to people yeah if they're giving to me usually i just keep okay okay unless they got like i've sorry this is like super weird that i'm getting into this no no no but it's kind of awesome i i had i've had numerous jackets where i like hot like come on i got a bunch of stuff in my pocket all the time i'll put a crystal in it and leave it there for a number of years oh and then after a while i can't put on the [ __ ] jacket anymore like it'll like it's like my one jean vest in particular is like shrunk no it just i would just get vibed out so heavy dude like man i haven't worn that in a while like put it on me like can't leave my room after really yeah do you know why i mean do you go oh it's this crystal man yeah like because it's just am i wrong or do crystals have to be like charged yeah because they can't be like you can't put in the sun or the moon yeah or or hold them like they they can't i might be totally just bullshitting this i don't know but i feel like i've heard it before yeah i like to uh like i don't know dude i think it's just for me it's like a ritualistic thing okay so just it's just like a sign of respect and stuff so whenever i bring them out i bring up who brought them to me and then i and then i i try to let him out under the full moon to charge him to charge him there you go and that's that after i started doing the full moon thing i haven't got any like super weird well i was gonna say dude like if a stone's lying dormant for a couple years right it's not charged that's why the moon charges it is that what you're saying yeah or you could just put it on the ground again wow yeah you're like running water like from the ground so that's why you felt that jacket wasn't right yeah because there was not a charged you can save them too stone in there i wish i hadn't experienced you know so much about rocks i've dated some hippie chicks so yeah some of those i've had since i was like 14. i love that wow that's really sick yeah i love that and it's a part of your like little you know group of things that you're working for i mean listen i've never seen if i had that much in my pockets i'd just drive me [ __ ] crazy but what's the story with the spry gum i always thought when i was a kid that brushing your teeth was the most [ __ ] thing ever okay and i was like why don't you just give me a piece of like steel wool and i'll [ __ ] chew on it never had never thought of that yeah and then i found out that they make that it's like xylitol oh can i see it i've never does it have aspartame in it though no no actually are you sure the sweetener is xylitol and then it's like cleans your teeth so um do you you don't brush your teeth i definitely brush my hair okay i'm just gonna ask them got more fur on my teeth in my upper lip well dude listen i i think what are you working on now anything going on i mean you came out with a part kind of recently right it was uh how long ago was that within the last year six months maybe oh no it was definitely the last six months three months almost no the one you did the 50 50 latent like front foot impossible i don't even know when that came out to me it was like six months it's been in the last but i i i six to eight months i was filming that for like four years oh really yeah so it's funny like the brett novak video that i did forever ago i filmed that in two weeks okay i have four kind of come out four years later yeah i i no no i was gonna say if that was the case so like i did i did one part and i filmed it in two weeks that's all he was in canada for okay and i filmed that [ __ ] and that was like my best part it's like brett novak by the way used to jump in the van with ty yeah yeah i remember yeah he came to the beach he came to the beach he was freestyling over there yeah oh yeah yeah sorry i was going to write crap oh this is the hydrant homie got tatted oh i could see why somebody yeah can i see that real quick skins you can't see oh that looks tight it's a nice idea i think it's a nice hydrant yeah a dog would pee on it for sure right yeah i gotta find a blank page here okay see how this works i don't even know what to do this is a crob what were you just talking about crystals yes you're going you're going into powell though you were going into new stuff that he was working on yeah oh right so this there's this big project i'm working on right now it's like this it's called the olympics yeah i got the olympics okay so no video parts no nothing dude no nothing and that's okay yeah the olympics is gonna be over in like less than two months dude it's not even a month away yeah and then it's and then it's done yeah actually by the time this episode airs you might have already competed what to win does olympic start when does it win some but the bolt it'll probably come out right around the time to be honest you're the the the ball or the park skating's at the end of the olympics correct yeah so it'll be around july oh so you're on this sixth or fifth or something like that oh so you're in the park you're not in the ball no no both park is bull yeah park is bowl so what the hell's the other one street street street park yeah so you're in the park yeah and street no just the street or you're only in the park he's in the train he's in the transitional park okay okay you're getting confused like what so that's coming up soon dude we're listen we we're going to hang your gold right here okay we're going to hang it right here we're going to put it on loan to the nine club museum it's going to look great right there probably oh that means so much to me man now listen i mean it's the olympics dude i feel like you're calculated but at the same time a care a carefree skateboarder maybe i don't know if you say but are you worried or are you excited for the olympics or are you what's your emotion i guess i'm trying to get at dude i'm just nervous i can't believe i'm in it that's true yeah it's pretty amazing like that was the thing for me because i was always i was a bubble boy i was like either in or out depending on where i place in what contest so like right before covet happened i was i did the canadian nationals i came first for the canadian nationals okay and that was like huge for me and that put me in 19th spot so you need to be top 19. there's so much math but i'll leave out the math please please do top 19 because the 20th spot goes to africa okay so if you're 20th then you're actually 21st okay so top 19 i had to be in the top 19. i was 19th for all of covid because i made it to 19th because of the one contest well not because of one because of accumulation but because i won the nationals i was in then i'm waiting for the next contest gets cancelled gets cancelled gets canceled gets cancelled like covet happened right wiped everything out yeah wiped everything out yeah so then due to her was suppose it was supposed to go due to her and then world championships in rio gotcha rio got cancelled because of covet and rio was gnarly so then it was like canadian nationals year and a half due to her and that's it right there's no other like no other points you can get anywhere else right yeah and in the world championships you can be like pretty low ranked and do well and make it in but at due to where the points weren't like that okay so you came in to do tour 19th i thought i did oh but one week before due to her roon gliffberg won his nationals and bumped me out oh so i didn't know this until after like i'm just not focusing on the politics at all got you well that's what's crazy a lot of skaters going into this we're looking what they need to do just to get into the olympics right yeah like to get in that top 20. and you weren't even really no not at all because i got a good coach sean hayes yeah and he knows that that would fry my brain right i was thinking about that and he's like let's let everybody else fry their brains and let's just focus on what we can do right here you go because at the end of the day you can't control where you're at no so there was like a certain placement that i had to get which i thought was top 20. gotcha in order to make it through yeah so at do tour this the scheduling was all crazy and all this stuff and i didn't know if i was in or out because i wasn't really trusting any math i was 19 last year but what does that really mean yeah and then i'm like i need to make top 20 you need to make top 20 then everything's going crazy with the weather and i'm calling stacey peralta every night i'm like stacy like i need some help you know he had such wise words for me like over and over and over again but like his main message to me was just to trust my talent and like understand that like hey when when the pressure is on just let go and and let your talent escape yeah pretty much yeah amazing i was going out late at night like trying to like talk to god or something like look for a sign about like what to do in this contest and two nights before the contest i was out in this dark alley every night i go out in like some piss dark alley you just walk around des moines and this hobo came out from around the corner now it's kind of like yeah get the [ __ ] out of here i'm trying to talk to god you know and he's like yo i just had the longest conversation with god i guess that was what he said yeah are you [ __ ] kidding me what did he say yeah you got me yeah yeah tell me and he's like he took me to another realm and he reminded me to just step into another realm when when times get tough wow okay so then i had it like step into another realm and trust your talent like written on my hand wow dude [ __ ] so gnarly and then uh so george powell and and the homeless guy told you stacey i'm sorry stacey peralta sorry yeah yeah i told you yeah those were my those were my yeah that was my guy yeah amazing yeah both have great things to say yeah yeah but i would say one okay keep going so during the contest so the contest going down i'm like the practices were so insane dude it was like because of covid they didn't want two people in the bowl at the same time so you drop in get 40 seconds or if you bail that's it it equated to one drop in every five minutes okay long long time to win yeah yeah so you're like dropping like yeah let's get it and then you're like oh right and then it's like oh it's my turn [ __ ] okay let's go you know yeah it's so weird oh my god how'd you do in the contest i forget like practice is over and today's the day of the contest i have two warm-up drop-ins first warm-up drop-in go in go for 50-50 around the deep end and just eat [ __ ] and i totally tweaked my knee and i [ __ ] tore my meniscus whoa like five minutes before i escaped oh everybody showed me the falls like oh my gosh dude that [ __ ] was like insane i like could barely walk i'm just trying to like squat it out or something did you know you tore it did you i mean did you find out that was in your meniscus after the fact or did you after the fact okay so keep going because i didn't hear a snap right so i knew nothing was like like it wasn't my mcl or my acl or something but something was seriously [ __ ] up right and then like i'm just like [ __ ] [ __ ] bro how are you gonna do this [ __ ] and i had spent the whole time during cove and trying to learn burial heal lean airs okay so like it was like a year and a half trying to learn this trick and i just figured out i need to put my front foot further back and i get it consistently and figured that out at linda vista one week before due to it oh wow okay so like dude the timing and lining up was insane and then i [ __ ] landed my run like my ideal run actually no i went off track on the first trick and then had to mad lib my run okay and then did a sicker run than the run i planned this is with a hurt knee yeah like you just heard it and you're still continuing your the same run you heard it in yeah dude like it [ __ ] that's how it happened dude it was your adrenaline dude yeah you're in it wow and you blacked out probably more likely yeah yeah step into another realm yeah let your talent yeah yeah it was like the best what dude like i had the ammo i was like i'm ready for this and then i qualified fourth that day and then the next day i had to skate again so that's like went to matt berger's freaking hotel room ice bath yeah ice bath like crazy and like we had some physio guy that sean recommended we hired him and came over my room and he's like yo can you come over i'm like skating in in two hours like i'll be there in 15. spends an hour just flushing all the juices out of the knee to him and then show up and like it was like okay game on dude step into another room there you go [ __ ] [ __ ] worked out sure so i i ended up coming 11th okay nice and i needed to come top 16. i didn't know anything i didn't know that no i was just like i landed my run woohoo i don't know if i'm in or not but i [ __ ] did it with all this [ __ ] going on i'm so stoked that it worked out and that i had all the help that i needed amazing from sean hayes dude like couldn't have done it without sean dude he like taught me [ __ ] how to brush my teeth with the gum yeah yeah chew this gum but uh that's incredible story yeah dude so all that stuff you find out later was the uh meniscus you said which is no big deal right even if they do something that they go in microscopic and trim some stuff off maybe clean it up a little bit it's like a bushing like all the other [ __ ] like holds your leg together your acl mcl pcl like holds it and the meniscus is just like the bushing in between your bones right huh so that could be like totally gone and guess what it hurts a lot but your legs not going to fall apart right gotcha you don't got an mcl or an acl you're just going to go backwards is it like cartilage basically yeah okay i was just saying like you mentioned that like uh [ __ ] gave that little sip of ice um ryan for powell you have george and stacy we've been in the business for [ __ ] 40 plus years or whatever have they given you any sort of advice that like has helped you out for sure man everything stacy says i think about all the [ __ ] time like you gave me some insane advice like from the first thing you told me i want to turn your pro but you have to make yourself well known enough that it makes marketable sense straight up that you just told that to a kid like oh okay now i know where to put my energy yeah i mean that's what that's a deal is every single time but not everyone explains it like that right right yeah you have a lot of kids in the industry that doesn't know they're just skating just because you're good at skateboarding does not mean you could just be a pro skater you have to market yourself yeah you know what i mean yeah but that's more relative now versus when when i was younger absolutely like it's all like if you're at a contest and that's that's the way you're getting exposure yeah contest and you can obviously you send your little videos to the companies or whatever but for the most part that that's the way you got exposure now with social media you that's how you make yourself relevant right yeah but back in the day like brands like powell were creating that image for them for sure now it's like like you have all the tools do it yourself one of the best analogies he gave me was between my two contest runs he i was like what do i do like i just made it i'm so excited but i have to skate tomorrow yeah like sometimes you get really excited the next day you're so spent right yeah yeah and he was like okay dude you're like a porsche right now and you're in the garage and the race is tomorrow keep your [ __ ] engine on like keep it in neutral rev a little bit but don't go forward and like you know just like keep keep at a light kind of a light high right right not too high not too low and he said this he says don't talk too much and don't listen too much let your mind be yeah don't overwork the mind yeah i was like hey man what's going on or like people coming up like hey like right just like then you just don't put yourself in those situations like i said you go and re rehabilitate your body through that day's work so so to say and then [ __ ] it it worked out for you yeah dude it [ __ ] worked because there are those people that that that literally suck you they they drain you yeah they're just energy vampires there you go energy vampires you know and even just normal conversation and keeping up with it takes a lot of energy you know like i'm spent like after i do these interviews like i'm i'm done like i need to go home and decompress and recharge even for a day yeah i'm like i'm like done yeah i don't want to do it it's a nice high though at the same time oh my god yeah yeah like to come down off that you definitely want to kind of like you said [ __ ] dude relax i mean i drink three cups of coffee i'm like going and then i get home and i'm like i might do now i need two days to [ __ ] dude you remember uh seeing zion going into the final day like his face when he got there it was just like game on game like he showed up he's like no it's it's it's going down today yeah yeah i don't know that was the i don't know seeing the game face come on in the skateboarder so it's time won that right zion won the whole yeah and i got that got him into the olympics yeah yeah so it was like me me and zion benefited from that contest yeah right perfect bro yeah we were the guys dude and then roone's still in amazing oh nice that is a legend i didn't bump bruno i said i'm in 18th he's in 19th now right so what number are you did you finish first second or third what is there like a to get in there is there like a first second and third no you just no he's top 20. top 20. you have to be top 20 with um a maximum of three per country so i'm i'm actually like 30th but there's seven americans i see what you're saying right okay you know right so there's a maximum of three per country and a minimum of one per continent yeah which is why africa gets a spot you're the only canadian in the top 20 in for park for park yep for street we got matt and mickey pop there you go matt and mickey popper yep and well congratulations on that man it's a huge uh you know milestone for skateboarding never been done so we'll see i i just hope that the olympics you know helps you know bring money into our industry and these small companies and you know and skater skateboarders hands you know that's what i hope it's definitely gonna bring awareness but awareness is great we want to make sure like it's represented it's great yeah but yeah but you want to make sure it's represented right right yeah like you know you want skateboarding to look when it comes out in the olympics i i understand what you mean by the money stuff 100 percent but when you see them shops skaters when you're watching it on tv or however you're watching the internet you want to watch olympics or the skateboarding olympics oh that's that's that looks like skateboarding right not produced and looks some crazy way you know how fast can you push yeah it's the highest air yeah yeah yeah exactly now andy like you're one who like you have your own look whatever um does canada have like a uniform that they want you to wear dude the uniform is pretty tight okay you're into it yeah it's like pretty much my same pants like a little less baggy than the dickies that i wear okay but they're stretchy as [ __ ] so you're chilling yeah and it's like a baggy white tee with like a big canadian flag but it's it's like white and gray so it's not flashy cool so pants and top for the flag bearers they have to wear a [ __ ] jean jacket that has spray paint all over it says canada tokyo like everybody else is wearing like a freaking nike jumpsuit yeah and the canadians gonna be wearing a freaking canadian canadian tuxedo yeah amazing that's amazing and it's all spray painted dude like it's so og and then right before all this me and my my friend troy i always go back to troy the the native rcmp officer that he also skates we did a collab with mind control where we got a bunch of old vintage jackets and spray painted and patched them all up wow and then they come out with the same jacket dude like i have jackets that look so similar that i'm i'm trying to sell for mind control okay perfect bro so it's like and then i find out that that's the olympic uniform i'm like are you like they did this for me i said yeah everything is like yeah everything's lining up for old land i just can't believe so i'm saying you're gonna win no does he like the canadian like a gymnast team have a different look oh yeah yeah every sport has their own look oh okay it's gonna be loud bro wow congratulations man yeah it's amazing that you're in there bro thank you guys i seriously i'm just starting to process it right well pretty soon listen pretty soon you'll be jumping on that plane yeah and there's a lot of time to process during that plane ride long plane ride yeah no doubt you're gonna get there man you're gonna kill it bro you already know what the course looks like right yeah so you can have some type of idea but then once you get there and feel it it'll all start clicking how do you feel about the course i [ __ ] love it yeah have you seen video of it or just the plans i've seen a little bit of video yeah it looks like the training facility merged with vans hb merged with like the montreal vans bowl wow okay it's like a do tour you had to kind of hit or you had the opportunity to kind of hit every obstacle this bowl is so broad that there's no way you could hit everything so you get to like pick and choose that's kind of good right yeah so it's going to be really hard to judge oh yeah you're getting so many different obstacles perspective for sure you're going to do great man don't even worry about it bro i'm just like i'm on cloud nine still i bet i bet man that's great dude listen i mean you're you're killing the game dude and you're having fun doing it and i think that's the main thing right skateboarding is fun right dude i don't think people like in general give the appreciation to how hard it can be to have fun very true like that's very true it's not just a goofing off thing right like if you want to like actually have fun every day it's it's not easy bro yeah no it takes preparation and [ __ ] like now when you're really trying to learn [ __ ] you mean you're gonna have those those moments where you're like [ __ ] you know you're stressed out and don't get me wrong those moments are not necessarily fun but it doesn't take away from the big picture of trying to learn and and you know obviously do better and in your progression in skateboarding you know yeah but there's a lot of depression thrown in there or like or whatever like heavy anxiety and stuff and you're like hey i'm fun you know what i mean like that's like that's a hard thing to fake right yeah yeah i mean right to actually be having fun takes work bro and i don't think a lot of people like put in that work because i don't think they think that it should take work you got a very uh interesting outlook on life thank you your idea all the g's everything man i love it bro andy what's up with the obsession with uh fire hydrants fire hydrants man they are in my opinion the fungal form of ai fungal what form of ai we gotta elaborate on that yeah you know like i don't know if you notice i'm gonna say it but like mushrooms grow in the forest and they pop up and they're like a little mushroom right there that's just the fruit it's not like a flower like if you pick a flower flower's dead right pick a mushroom mushrooms still alive they grow still gotcha it's just the fruit of it the real things going on underground and they pop up where the dirt is dehydrated so they help hydrate the forest floor and spread nutrients around okay so i see fire hydrants is like a man-made recreation of the same [ __ ] where we got these like little like colorful things that pop up but really the whole shit's going on underground they're all connected all right okay found all across the world all do the same [ __ ] look a little different different color some got spots yeah once they all do the same thing yeah yeah they all do this they all do the same thing some different heights too yeah big big ones small ones are all kinds of ones yeah beverly hills are gold i mean gold fine crazy and then and then the other thing dude there's so many things to like about fire hydrants [Laughter] so many things i never would yeah i like jumping over those things the whole aspect of utilitarian art like we need to have something what are we going to make it look like right and the fact that every community decides it's going to look a little different it's never just like a pipe right it could all just be pipes that's true that's true yeah it's art you know someone designed it and when a car runs it over it's a big show yeah i love that there is a big show it's a big show and then the most recent thing i've come up with for why i like them so much is like they communicate with other machines like cars so cars know they can't park next to them okay so if you see a fire hydrant you got like a sandwich you can sit next to the fire hydrant no no car is gonna bug you that's a good way i never looked at it like that be like yo dude it's like yo take a seat take a seat next to this there's a nice open area yeah nobody won't bother you we're not going to be bothered right nobody will bother you yeah it's like the poisonous spores or something but like talk to the other because otherwise you get point the car gets towed right not only that i've seen the photos of the fire fireman putting the hose right through the car dude that yeah straight up like it's dangerous because that it takes priority it's such an important or they knock the whole uh not the window knock the windows out and put the hose right through the damn car don't keep your car apart next to a fire dude i saw one another the other night [ __ ] right right parked right in front of a fire hydrant and i'm like and the way that the nozzle like i'm like well if something went down that thing would go right through that window right there dude they planted this in your mind so you know not to park by it yeah otherwise your car will be you know it's like that's the case yeah either way it's an emergency it's a red zone i put my i was about to park my bike next to one like against like a like a i don't know it was a there's a pole i was like i shouldn't do that yeah just in case there's something that happens right yeah like there's this bike here who's this [ __ ] of this bike there's a fire right here i need the fire buying control i'm i'm sure that the i'm sure that's my firemen have some clippers it's toss yourself make it easier for them yeah there's some real problems very nice of you bro yeah the thing that bugs me is people just they don't know how to react when they're driving like the first thing you learn about driving is you pull over to the right if there's some if there's a fire engine or you know i still see cars that just stay there and like don't do any you know i'm just like they'll just stop just carrying headlights yeah yeah anyway listen andy this has been incredible bro we would love to well first of all we don't want this to end abruptly but can we give you some nine club stuff to take home with you yeah dude i already got the picks we got this guy yeah the number 33 picks yeah kelly we go do the honors and grabs grab andy anderson did you give him a pack of used there's a couple missing oh man justin's been taking him do something now i'm gonna eat you another one oh yeah well d i could still i can reuse them i could use them to put it back you can i'm gonna bring these out of the golden tee everyone's gonna found one i found one on the floor the other day dubs no yeah i know thank you bro first of all andy dude listen this won't be the last time it was such a pleasure having you on the show man we have so much we have so much more to talk about yeah come back on a stop and chat come hang out with us anytime maybe when you get back from the olympics yeah it'd be amazing if you come back on the stop tell us the experience over there that'd be [ __ ] sick hell yeah definitely give you the whole breakdown that would be amazing play a little slideshow yeah take photos um yeah do a little piece out there for us and just bring it back bring it back we'll give you some stickers too to put on your board for uh olympic photo incentive i need i need freaking you get on nbc with the nightclub sticker bro 20 bucks 24 bucks big bucks no good i thought 20 bucks is pretty good that's not good yeah you're talking about what you're talking about earlier on the podium with this board absolutely that's 20 bucks yeah is paul giving you a tv incentive no no i don't get it but like sorry to keep going the reason i got on swatch was because everyone used to wear like eight watches at the same time yeah and i found out that was photo incentive you get you get a hundred dollars per watch wow so they would just have their whole wrist watch yeah what that's that's smart do they still have that deal going on oh well crystal where on the nine club right dude i will [ __ ] however the nine club swatch impact tour coming soon guys yes six seven i got about five six watches on each wrist there you go that's great every show oh my god please send me their contacts the funny thing is that that worked like people actually would actually wear multiple watches i remember having like three watches at one point in time in the 80s oh yeah it got people to buy something oh they swatch it they were all swatched oh i see it works yeah i love swatch watches back in the day it's getting better here's our i don't know if you've ever heard of scott kane yes do your homework because i know you love doing your homework bootleg video he had a 12 minute part back in the day he turned pro in the middle of his part he's did the first he was he was a tech rail skater ahead of his time like he was doing switch heel front noses down hand rails in 2003. what yeah 2002 2003. he was a beast he's been on our show but he has a water bottle company highland peak so we did a collab with him beauty so there's a something to put your bevs in to keep them cold or hot so nice dude i don't know if you're into candles but we got the lacrob no way people crop pamplemoose candle smells like grape yeah grapefruits bro oh damn yeah my hotel's gonna love that yeah yeah don't leave an open flame unattended okay oh man i almost burned a house down like see yeah woke up to the noise of the flames oh wow wow fire hydrant huh you need one of those things water water needed yeah an open flame unattended here's our one of our mugs this is uh sam pierson uh that's our that's our burning mug right there what that's so dope and these are all these are all available these are all available in the nine club.com there we go or they can be sold out i don't know yeah it could be you never know and last but not least what would be a nine club without giving andy anderson my switch flip manual mug just gorgeous dude the way your arms are positioned the whole time this is how it is ma'am that's exactly how frame by frame yeah you know that's it dude gorgeous you want to see it i think we've all seen it a couple of times i've seen it's a real thing right there it's a real thing right there oh dude they come off though mark johnson brought that ipad with the switch flip manny so it's got to be a staple bro yeah yeah mark johnson brings it bro well dude where are you going to go you're going to go back home after this and uh relax yeah go to carlsbad try to pass out before midnight okay perfect go skating tomorrow yeah yeah i think so man little session do you skate every day i haven't skated since due to her really because my knee okay so i had like a session the other day with jim goodrich at the at the old ob park oh wow yeah yeah that's a good one wow but other than that i haven't really been so i'm getting back into the groove but yeah like talking with my coach sean hayes it's like a lot of mental stuff at this point yeah absolutely no skateboarding is so mental really and even going into the olympics doing all that jesus christ you're gonna do fine though dude i'm excited bro like i already i already won like getting to the olympics was winning for me for sure right it's a feat in itself yeah so i have to like that was hard for me to set a new goal after achieving that i was like [ __ ] you know what i mean like you got to win it bro now you're gonna be like number one in fun yeah yeah and you're 25 years old like you do you have such a long healthy fabulous career added you did quarter cent yeah yeah are you ready for a wheezy box what gets me on a wheeze box box if you win the olympics whatever you probably end up on a wheeze box oh wheaties box dude matt berger's already on one really really wait a minute we googled this one time when was this like pretty recently what this is just in canada probably yeah yeah yeah it's like cinnamon oh cinnamon toast crunch or maybe it's shredded weed or we're talking about wheaties dude wheaties is the olympic cereal yeah but it's so boring it is very bland i have to if i ever get wheaties which i'd never do i put loads of sugar on it might as well get frosted flakes you know what i mean what would you want to have what what cereal would you want to have cashy oh that's good dude burgers on a cinnamon toast crunch [ __ ] cinnamon toast crunch that's amazing any switch on it they flipped the image they flipped it leave it kellogg to i got i got a friend who's up in the forest tree planting right now her name's ariel and uh she's like so far up north the sun doesn't go down right now like it's [ __ ] crazy all day yeah it's it's you got to set a timer to fall asleep right wow damn it's weird yeah but she's sending me videos of her friends like damn this skater's cute man i'm gonna get this cereal like i'm like she's i know that guy you know no way he's my friend because she met matt right so it's like oh my god like he sent me videos like oh yeah this guy is pretty cute is he on the box because of the olympics yeah where's your box then dude i i uh let's get you on like some cocoa puffs or something dude slurpee oh 7-eleven 7-eleven that's smart idea wait a minute you're gonna be on [ __ ] slurpee yeah bro yes you do spinning around in swirls with a slurpee legendary it's gonna come out in like two days yeah and out of me spinning around in swirls with a slurpee yeah like actually that's yeah swirly swirly swirly slowly wait a minute is this is this 7-eleven canada or is this this is 711 canada we'll take it [ __ ] it that's incredible tim hortons oh yeah timmy's yeah if you get on timmy ho's coffee cup roll up the rim to win andy anderson's flip check i don't know yeah that's incredible bro you're got matt berger on a captain crunch cereal box cinnamon toast either one i'd be stoked on either one you're on a slurpee yeah so the whole canadian national team is on these slurps oh you actually are serious you're gonna be joking on that you are gonna be on a slurpee yeah so is it individual or is it like a team photo three on each so the one i'm on like tj rogers is on it okay and then maddie balt she's a skater from canada and then there's another one that's like matt ryan and like someone so when they pull the cup out of the thing there's your face right there yeah doing like a wall plant filling up their little doing a wall plant dude the trick that i was hyped on is like a six-year-old [ __ ] wall coming full circle bro real [ __ ] i love separated from the olympics powell you're doing it all swatch pretty soon we you are going to make that cashy box yes we did no doubt okay i'm a plug swatch for one second please it's like the first event swatch ever threw was a keith haring sponsored break dancing event damn wow that's the person that's the first thing they ever did was like okay keith herring do all the art in this [ __ ] whole thing we're going to do a break dancing contest raising that's dope that's so legit yeah yeah they get that that marketing they they chose right right to that first coming out right dude jesus so i got like a keith haring swatch it's like a keith herring drawing of mickey mouse on it that's dope i'm like dude these guys [ __ ] i'm all about the origin story is that the like the red one with the uh stripes on it yeah that one that one's sick yeah i got the black one is on the same series and then and then stance sucks plug stance yeah they came out with this a sock line that had the same graphics wow oh dope so it must have been like keith herring oh wow dang it was like yeah so i was like you could have the whole kit yeah i got the watching the socks like the same key thing you need to do like a photo with a grab or something doing yeah yeah anyways too much going on today oh you're good what's going on i know busy guy watches socks [ __ ] big time if anyone in canada is listening we would love a ctc box here with matt oh yes please yeah over here yeah a celebrity cup too it'd be awesome to have here this slurpee cup i shouldn't talk about but it's not coming out for us this isn't coming out for uh wednesday we're good tomorrow yeah no this is uh like mid mid july mid july okay yeah yeah perfect that's what i'm saying i don't know if you're going to congratulations on winning the olympics ma'am that's incredible thank you i told you you were going to win yeah you know we're just covering all our bases here because we're filming this early so damn it's a shame you didn't win that [ __ ] no no i'm not putting that in the air no you [ __ ] won yes gold dude gold did you bring it with you i would get it i bit it first make sure dented you see what came out my teeth 24 carats it didn't dent the gold 18 karat 24k i'd love to see these medals man you might have you ever seen a real gold medal in real life i haven't okay kelly real gold real gold like from the olympics no i don't think so i saw one yeah well what was it we had a family friend uh back in a some late 84 olympics or something he was on the uh men's volleyball team and there they won the olympics oh wow and we had a little party and i was i was young yeah i think i even had my photo taken but he had his gold medal hanging up by the fire off the mantle is a nice heavy metal you you got to you got to touch it yeah wow sick felt it damn just [ __ ] cupped it cut it you got to put that in your pocket though andy this is my rocks this is my olympic gold oh my god that's gonna get added into yeah oh dude i got a tea bag [Music] so [Music] so [Music] you

Channel: The Nine Club

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Keywords: chris roberts, roger bagley, kelly hart, crob, the nine club, nine club, the 9 club, 9 club, skateboarding, skate, skating, podcast, history, interview, news, motivation, entertainment, funny, comedy, thrasher, berrics, transworld, nike sb, street skating, switch tre flip, boardslide, skateboarding 2020, firing line, Andy Anderson, Helmet, powell, Freestyle, Canada, olympic games tokyo 2020, Mind Control, powell peralta, swatch, fire hydrant, braille, pockets, George Powell, hazed, White Rock BC

Id: PwicH96bgcE

Length: 197min 55sec (11875 seconds)

Published: Mon Jul 19 2021