Steve-O | The Nine Club With Chris Roberts - Episode 187

well we are back huh we're back at the nine club everybody today we got a special surprise like as soon steve-o actually skates special guest steve-o dude what do you mean you actually skate bro you've skated your whole life yeah pretty much and I think that to a lot of people that would be a little-known fact seriously but I mean you do have skate footage that come out but I mean you're you're mostly known for your antics and your jackass and all that stuff but I mean you start off skating let's let's start but let's go back let's start well first of all thank you for them hey thank you it was me well you just came out with the phenomenal part thank you it was incredible that was awesome piece I appreciate that so much man thank you but yeah I mean let's go back to grow it because you grew up skateboarding I started skateboarding with in I want to say half an hour of walking out of the movie theater having seen Back to the Future Part 1 in 1985 right and there was a skateboard like on my street laying around I think maybe in someone's backyard or someone there's something in the neighbor's backyard not nothing of it but I came out of that movie theater and went straight to it there was this little yellow banana board and I just started messing around with it you know that was when I was living in London England at the time and that was spring maybe of 1985 and I played around with skateboard that got one for Christmas yes that year and it was a very Flex ramp rat the riprap which is a feature at the beginning of that that you just kindly mentioned yeah yeah yeah the untold story of steve-o is a skateboarding career well now it's been told right I used the word career very loosely right but yes that started my skating and I think that as I was living in London mm-hmm and that was sixth grade and graduating sixth grade I'd moved to Canada mm-hmm and I brought the skateboard with me to Canada but I didn't have like a bunch of friends to skate with mm-hmm and I just kind of dove more into like being a big like heavy metal music fanatic mm and that was where I was in Canada what like when Motley Crue came to town and I called every hotel in the yellow pages you know asking for a room by the name of their manager and like got through somehow and like met Motley Crue when I was 36 braids doing this I was incensed right now is that was an eighth okay how did you know that I mean I guess you could find out the managers names but the album sleeves yeah okay I guess that Nikki Sixx wouldn't check into hotels Nikki Sixx and I knew his name was Frank Carleton firaon Oh jr. but I didn't think you would check into a hotel under that name either so I was like their manager it's got to be their manager and so I called every hotel asking for a room under the name Doc McGhee and you got it yeah I got it and the dude the phone rang the guy answered like I said is that Doc McGhee and he said no this is Doc's brother Scott who's this and I was like I said Motley Crue and he's like dude like how'd you get this number like like I called every hotel in the elevators he's like dude that's badass as if I wanted tickets and backstage passes I got my picture taken with Nikki Sixx and Tommy Lee that had that was October 25th of 1987 okay and I moved back to England like the first week of January 88 and so I had been gone from England for about exactly a year and a half and I stopped skating but when I got back on my bed spat straight back to the same school all those kids that started skating with me were still skating right and I'm just like [ __ ] man and I remember like after school like maybe like the first day and I saw like that my buddy skate up to a backpack a little JanSport backpack sitting on the playground dude I laid over it I had never seen an ollie like I just wasn't paying attention and and I was just like my head exploded when I saw this kid Matt Taylor ollie over a backpack my head exploded and all of a sudden my heart hurt and I was like ah like I blew it so bad by like not and so I just like that's all it took was I just saw that and I was like dude I gotta catch up was your board capable of doing that were you still riding the board at that point I had like I had to get one right you know I had to get one and it was very soon after I guess some maybe spring break is maybe a month later and I went to go visit some family in Canada my grandma who was making like the family including my grandma and she was a little bit kind of starting to lose it you know dementia wise and when she was just always down just by whatever I just like grandma I really made a skateboard and she's like sure like and those did you get off of her here before it was like this crazy boombox my god yeah I was hours of [ __ ] do you remember what board it was Caballero mini with bow night thunder trucks I feel like there were gns wheels like okay I was a psycho kid you know like I couldn't do anything without just diving into it like so overboard you know like hyper focus yeah and I just applied that like anything I've ever like really applied myself to have been pretty effective at Nana and that's when I dove in so I couldn't say I started skateboarding in 1985 but it would be much more accurate to say I started skateboarding in 1988 88 okay like it was about exactly one year later I was doing that ramp to ramp wall ride it was a huge six-foot [ __ ] gap that was a year after you really started skateboarding earnest uh-huh you're watching skate videos at this point or just remember the first true skate video I saw was wheels of fire and if my head had exploded when my buddy on us however that industrial trashcan were you trying to all the over backpack until you try I was trying to ollie over a soda can and I couldn't do it and so I had it on its side and I couldn't do it and so I was like studs smash it down with my foot like a crushed soda can on its side there's so much work that's the thing about skateboarding that's so special is that like it just it weeds out quitters and [ __ ] true it's true it's like I say it all the time about like you know every kid in the world got a skateboard for Christmas in 1985 like I did and in short order like 98% of those kids figured out wait a second like this this is [ __ ] hard this is fun and I fell down and I got hurt and like [ __ ] like ouch like my mouth oh do you know people my age I talk to and they're like oh why I use escape but I always get hurt yes I quit sure I yes so skateboarding is just like really an exercise and just isolating these like passionate driven like true you know like real you know doers who are just willing to sacrifice and get up and keep going yeah yeah skateboarding is a very special thing and like you know just see I learned everything I needed to know in kindergarten [ __ ] that dude everything I need to know and the rad thing is to is you know I mean you've had a lot of success over the years you know the Jackass comedy doing stand-up and all them but you're still skating you're still doing it you know that's the Testament you know stopping tables you tablescape yeah you use that mentality of like a skateboarder and everything else in your life I don't want to Pat myself on the back for skating like all that much cuz I really like you know it's it's it's intermittent at best like me actually skating but like taking this like sort of you know this philosophy of the like you know and persist no matter what just digging your heels and keep fighting to accomplish things like I think that's something that I do carry into you know to carry through life and it's so valuable you know it's so valuable to have like that determination like that work ethic and and I think largely yeah it does come from skateboarding yeah it totally does man it's amazing when you were coming up in skating you were skating with all your friends well you moved around a lot you were in London then you said you went to Canada then you stayed in London for all four years of high school okay awful yeah and it was it was 1990 beginning of 1990 my dad wanted video camera in a corporate golf tournament he's through in his bedroom closet and I knew it was there so I just helped myself to it essentially stole this video camera from my dad and like with some urgency like opened it up and like when videotaping skateboarding with my buddies and I came back and plugged together VCRs and edited and then duplicated that tape with a wire running from the stereo soundtrack yeah and then when my dad came home you know once I'd made this little edit I was like hey Dad check this out and I like hit play on the VCR and my dad like was just so stoked he was like how did you do this you know and I was like oh I store the video myself and my dad was just really stoked because like anything that I didn't like care about passionately I was just awful I was constantly in trouble with school in like with behavior with with grades like with just like I was just a nightmare of a kid and it was so rare to see me like really like just turned on and the passionate and motivated and that's all dad ever wanted for me so when he saw that I had that taken the initiative to make this skate video he was thoroughly stoked amazing and the problem came I wouldn't necessarily say was a problem but it was evident they even though at this time Street skating was legitimately still in its infancy you know II treaty it was so much better than the one before right and like by the time we got to like rubbish-heap and like you know hocus pocus like it was becoming pretty clear that like I wasn't gonna be like a name and the writing was on the wall right so I determined that the skateboard had led me to the video camera and that my true love was the video cam being in front of it not necessarily but making and so in a practical sense as I thought about my future and what I would you know it's kind of career I pursued like it was it was kind of expected that I would go to college and I thought okay I'm gonna go to college and and learn how to become like a creative advertising oh sure I'm gonna make like TV commercials as I've got like this love for the camera I feel like I could may I can make cool videos and if I it's the career I want yes you know and so I can I went that path and I was discouraged you know particularly when this this video came out it was called this is not the new h-street video and I was just like straight up I tap out you know like they're doing all these fun foot impossible is like these lip trip sequences that just were so mind-boggling and I hate to say it because skateboarding the most important lesson I think anybody can take from it is that you should one should only compete with themselves you know to progress you know beyond where you're at where you were at yesterday because I let that don't compare yourself to other people yes a good is a good life lesson it's true but it's it's kind of hard to do though because you're seeing what the standard is and you obviously you were like I I'm I tap out this is I can't do that so you never made a sponsor me tape or you never tried to go up you did I mean like I remember I had my first video it was called I hate rain mm-hmm it was awful but like you know I took the best little clips and and that the story of my skate career you know it hasn't been there it's that's nothing to get sponsored over not even back then not as free a sticker and my chemistry teacher like showed the classmates and then let everybody go and I was like yeah you're you had a premiere yeah I hate pebbles in the third video I hate you and each one was marginally better than the one before but yeah I never sent it anywhere to go to answer though and I kind of put the board down you know it was another case where like kids stopped skating or they moved back to the states I went to the American school in London mm-hmm and you know the students in my school were largely American very privileged like 80% of my senior class went on to ivy universities oh wow I was kind of a loser on school and I went to the University of Miami to you know the School of Communications to try to become an advertising guy sure and I just couldn't bring myself to go to class I was already in trouble with alcohol and you know to some extent drugs okay and I just just couldn't fudge didn't go to class and I was failing out and then and I was I was like you know I started like that they had a an Olympic pool with like you know the University of Miami Olympic pool like this their whole diving program with the platform diving it was like an Olympic factory and I just instead of going to class I'd be getting loaded or I'd be like bouncing on the diving board and then I fell in love with that I started just jumping I was like okay so I'm not gonna be a good diver either but if I jump but if I jump strictly off rooftops and like on bridges then like maybe that'd be kind of cool and and so I went that route and and I'd failed the [ __ ] out of the University of Miami but I continued to live on the campus vagrant homeless dude skating Govinda skating again and and I befriended these divers this is where it was there's a really significant thing that the number one number two and number three ranked platform divers in the NCAA like collegiate diving like all lived in this one apartment and they got a kick out of me because I was just such a [ __ ] man yeah they let me live on their living room floor like you know fair amount of the time and they took me under their wing and taught me how to do like standing backflips like how to walk like up and down stairs on my hands like how to like you know kind of control myself in the air a little bit better and like Digg kind of gave me enough like fundamental skills that that I took the standing back flip and like learned how to light myself on fire and simultaneously through the fire midair while I would be doing a backflip essentially through a fireball that I was simultaneously breathing out of my mouth and that was like okay now I'm kind of getting somewhere and I remember showing them like I did a flip off of a roof three-story rooftop into four feet of water they all cringed so much they were just like oh my god don't please don't do that like we hate and I was like wow they react like that I'm on to something this is that did it they put a lot of wind in my sails were they getting loaded too or were they traveling around so much back then when you were kids my dad's career he was a corporate executive for all different like multinational companies including a Pepsi open the RJ Reynolds Tobacco Nabisco del Monte Campbell Soup Wow I was like a privileged like kid that's amazing I was like a rich kid okay were you tripping on moving so much or did you really because there's such a kid you know like I wanted like so much attention and like I was just so would act out and just like turn everybody just off I was not like a comfortable kid man and I had like a really like bad like social skills and so like that was always uncomfortable so every time my parents told me that we were gonna move again I was like oh sweet you know I got an I got another try yeah and I was like this time I'm gonna be cool how long did you stay in living on campus illegally how long did that I bounced around like you know I always came back you know I was homeless for three years it was couchsurfing for three years and at the same time you're filming star as well I sometimes had to borrow video cameras sometimes you know I had like came up with enough money to get one um thank this is Miami and like a video camera melted in a car and then I didn't have one and then there was like then I had one I pawned it like it was you know and and through those three years of being like a couch surfer it's it's kind of notable that it's like once you know I had like you know a rich dad no I mean I don't know ever like how rich he was but he was certainly like you know upper-class well and I just as I failed out of the University of Miami I just didn't I had kind of too much pride to like expect my dad to like give me an allowance or just pay me to like you know Bailey Wow be a [ __ ] loser and do nothing that he approved of so I just kind of went out of my own and I had like the government testing drugs on me for FDA approval and the more dangerous the medical study is the more they pay get into a program like that people people make a living as like human lab rats I was doing do you have to have a certain problem to get into this Pro like hey we're testing this drug there are certain certain studies will be for that I did study for drugs that they were testing to make legal to give to pigs and cows like the idea being that the the pigs and cows would have more muscle and less fat so that they could sell leaner meat to a health conscious what can increasingly health-conscious market of and by the virtue of the fact that the me when people ate it a you know minuscule amount of that drugget rays would enter the human body thus they have to test how much can the human body withstand of this and that was my role did you notice anything it would happen did you get lean the target for the study was for somebody they would give it to his on our every hour until someone in the studies resting heart rate was over 150 beats per mo my god and I just found out that I have like a pretty badass heart because my heart rate I don't think everyone over 90 oh [ __ ] yeah they did like an ultrasound thing like what they look at babies with and remember the heart specialist guy looking at my heart he said man what is squeeze how much money are you getting for something around to and how long does a test last we were in there for 12 days oh you gonna have to go and stay there yeah it was stayed in there for 12 days sooner in 12 days it's not much waiting to get into the study you know sleep studies I did one that I paid for it to figure out why I'm so [ __ ] tired all the time Oh what was the result I got tested for sleep apnea and they said a mild to moderate okay oh you take naps your napkin app guy but you're a busy dude though you you you're constantly on the go so maybe that attributes to why you're always tired I think it's just that I'm in my forties and I'm thinking about doing TRT to your tee testosterone replacement therapy oh I asked my buddy dr. drew and he said he said he thinks it's a great idea and what does this do I think it gives you more energy makes your dick harder okay maybe I'll go in with the study with you he said he recommends it but don't do it without making an appointment with an endocrinologist you notice you can see where your levels you know like yeah I mean who knows yeah and yeah like I'm tired but whatever like I have this like insane you know just 100 miles an hour all the time like you know go so it doesn't matter if I'm tired I don't care I feel about it like I'm yeah I stay busy naps are good a nice little half hour power nap power nap during the day it's great yeah what's gonna happen before I came here was there any other studies that you did no that was the only one that what I did from that one that what a great question t remember I got this book called to sell yourself to science it was like you're a kidney you have two of them and you only need one and like if you go over to like India you can get like 50 grand for your kidney what you know and why I was so like tempted to do this like there's a million ways you can make money you know like your organs you can get like 50 bucks from blowing a load are you just giving blood giving blood yeah so so yeah there's all varying ways but what happened with that I thought I was okay we got like I want to say 500 bucks in cash and then there was a fifteen hundred dollar check and I wanted to take that that's was seven hundred bucks and and I we went to go buy a pound of weed with five hundred and and this guy who was in the study with us we'd like became buddies with them like and he was the gamma drug dealer you know like I just do this for like some money like extra money and we're like dude we want to get like a pound of money and I read it together like we each want to get like a pound a week so we can like make our money last longer he was like I got you so we went it was in Austin Texas where we did the study and we go to this drug dealers place in Killeen Texas okay couple days and then we're going to do the drug deal and he's like alright give me the money you know and like we're just sitting in the car like he went out the back door and it was like dude you just took off with like 500 bucks in my money 500 bucks and my buddy's money we're like nah this can't be right this can't be right he's like our friend you know and so we somehow found her way back to his place it wasn't that hard I wasn't driving I never got a license till I was 20 we somehow find our way back to the place and he's not there but like I guess that we just were able to get in the I wasn't logged or know his videos we had roommates you know anything about what was going on the roommate let ascend yeah so my god the next day my buddy is fixing up the car so we can make the drive back to Colorado I was bouncing I was all over the place and my parents had no idea where I was and so my buddies fixing the karma sent on this dude Soph all the sudden he get shows up with his buddies walks in and I'm like what happened you know like I'm like what happened and the dude just walks up to me and just [ __ ] clocks me yeah yeah I got punched and kicked like in the head and they're like [ __ ] give us your money yeah give us your money and I had like I don't know I'd like a hundred 200 bucks you know and they [ __ ] took it and they're like dude if you're here when we get back you're you're dead you know and so they leave and I'm just still there and I'm like what the [ __ ] like this is insane my buddy comes back and I tell him what happened and and and we just I don't know who decided to but we were like we gotta get the [ __ ] out of here but first let's steal everything the guy was like roughly like my size so like we've I wiped out his closet got these like these shell toe Adidas which I was wearing when I did that 360 double flip oh yeah wait no no sorry I was wearing that drug dealers jeans when I did that 360 double flip in that video I was no I was wearing these others like man in their walks but I think I was wearing his shoes in some other skate clips and so yeah that was what happened to the first and chunk of money but then but then I got the check from 1500 later and I like kind of burned through it and my whole family was was going to my sister's college graduation so like I was part of that like just and while I was there like this is the first time I had seen my my parents my my dad my sister and they hadn't known where the [ __ ] I was or what I was doing they're like what's going on and I was like well you know I've been homeless it's going pretty good going pretty good but I said it would it would be like it would be easier if I had a car and then like learned how to drive so I mean problem I talked about like how like I had too much pride to ask for [ __ ] I absolutely let my dad buy me a used car and as soon as soon as it got into that car the day I got my license it just worked out like that I mean I got a license to do it I picked up the car on my 20th birthday and drove from st. Louis to [ __ ] Toronto to go like hump this chick I did it straight but then but then I went from there and followed the Grateful Dead this was summer of 1994 and I went to every [ __ ] Grateful Dead concert and just sold drugs you know I saw drugs and it was like I started out selling beers but I was like this isn't that profitable you know and so like I would show up at the show like with the car on fumes and I would go do back flips you know I would I would be like hey you know I'll do a back flip for a dollar and people are like sure I was always good at like panhandling because I would give you something you would entertain yeah so I would do like five back flips and I'd have five bucks and then I would buy like three hits of acid for five bucks and then I would sell each of them for five bucks and then I would have fifteen bucks and I would buy like an eighth swag weed for bugs and then I would sell that for 30 bucks and like I would generally stop when I had like a hundred bucks I knew people who would like to crazy seemed they were like some [ __ ] weird people just run around with a lot of money at one point I was selling it was the last show of the tour for that summer it was like New Jersey Meadowlands or something if that's even then I think would yeah New Jersey and like Stadium deal and I'm in the parking lot and I sold it like acid and I had more acid like in my pocket and all sunny hey there's a cop right there now keep in mind selling acid is like a gnarly gnarly gnarly thing like there's still dead heads like who got caught selling acid just decades in prison like there's just like it's it's like the punishment just doesn't even fit the crime yeah and like I'd I don't know if I'd still be in putting foot dude I never ran I'm [ __ ] just straight man I know that the cop wasn't running out and I just I had turned into a [ __ ] runner and I had no one side that car you know I ended up driving the car back to the University of Miami doing the deal over there and [ __ ] I didn't even have the car I don't think for six months and I got my first DUI oh wow like within one month of getting my license back from the first DUI I got my second DUI and I was living out of the car at that point and I couldn't get the registration like updated so now I've got like you know I've got expired registration and I'm you know driving this car with no license and I'm drunk trying to get my third DUI and I was just I tapped out that was one that was when I moved to Albuquerque to live with my sister oh wow you moved with your sister with my sister yeah and that was when I met Ryan Simon Eddie the skater skater yeah that was when that when like I really [ __ ] got serious about paying my dues and and like it's like okay I'm not good at anything but if I if I'm just [ __ ] crazier than everyone he was a full-blown skater he was doing this legit he was doing this legit so I kind of gave up on like trying so hard at skating and I would be like a kale I would come up with these ideas for us to do stunts together and like the handstand down the thing and him hauling through your legs and [ __ ] uh-huh and it was like once I was living with my sister I had to deal with my dad that like he would pay my half of the rent if I was in school and got nothing below a B which I accomplished oh you did and anything beyond that like if I wanted to eat then I found out about college because my sister was like taking a [ __ ] at work this book trivia she's reading this book a Tribune had said what college has no tuition and it says Ringling Brothers and Barnum & Bailey Clown College like tuition is free if you can get in and my sister is like this is perfect for my brother he wants to be the stunt guy yeah I wants to be the stunt guy and like you know it's maybe he's a clown who knows and so I found out about that and I thought was [ __ ] if you know if if I was a trained circus professional graduate of Ringling Brothers and Barnum & Bailey Clown College then people would take me more seriously as that's the biggest circus there were ever a big-ass circus around right and after I applied but before I found out I got accepted Big Brother magazine came through the skateboard magazine Big Brother and this is all in Albuquerque aha okay I was in Albuquerque and I was like I don't care if you guys like me you're gonna [ __ ] put me in the magazines I loved big brother so I set my hair on fire and I had markavitch blow this fireball off my head but he blew it straight into my face and my plan was to have a fireball blown off my head while my head was on fire and reach my hand into the fire which my hand was doused in alcohol instead my hand again and I had my own mouth and alcohol and so then I'm gonna do a simultaneous fire-breathing back flip all in one sequence so just stupidity sure and markavitch blows the fireball into my face so my head like entirely and shoulders and up was engulfed in flames and I'm thinking [ __ ] I better hurry up and do this back so I do this fight and I come up short nothing like flailing through the backyard while my [ __ ] I'm getting burns all over my face and ended up in the hospital my [ __ ] second-degree burns on half my face and like was still like in like rough shape with these burns where like my it was like pus and [ __ ] and then I'm in the morning I have to peel my pillow off my face and I was in that shape when I got the call from Clown College like hey you got in and we're really excited about it we're gonna wave your your that was the little thing we would charge for your costume to be made did you send him a sponsor me video application were you like by the way I was wasted in half of these Co hips that I said I had two versions of my real name just like crazy and then there was the like drinking bong water and you know like all the the stuff that there wasn't necessarily helpful on a professional level you left that off of the help you forget yes did you put a new song and do it or anything or just soundtrack but it's read as you learned that from skateboarding I learned how to do the thing that added a video me out that the thing that trips me I was like you graduated right from circa from the from there's we had a contract how does that work you graduate from their college from their Clown College and then you don't even get hired right and and that's by design oh the it's it's like like widely known that and probably widely not because I said so much but um statistically speaking it was harder to get into Clown College than Harvard based on like that and I made a clown video about my clown career okay my editor like dug up all these statistics and and some like 5% of applicants to Harvard get in but like more like 1% of applicants got into Clown College I said so many people want to go to Clown College everywhere the circus went and there were two units of the circus like it was like a hundred cities and at the end of the day 33 clowns got in what and after a clown college graduation only ten of the 33 clowns got contracts Wow yeah just a clown get paid do you know I mean at the time that the job on the Ringling circus was maybe 250 bucks per week and like you worked 50 out of 52 weeks per year he lived in like like your room on the train you couldn't even call it a room it was like 6 by 3 right right now right and I was heartbroken when I didn't get picked because it was in short order when I showed up at Clown College like I wouldn't then we would train 14 hours a day and then I would start drinking and getting loaded and doing all my dumb [ __ ] like the first week I had to get my head and stapled together because I was skating and then you know all I'd down these stairs and hit my head on this like cement like beam and like I had to get 5 staples in my head and it sucked because it's like what are you doing yeah you're coming in getting but you're coming in [ __ ] up every opportunity like everyone else is taking it seriously we got to bring you to the [ __ ] hospital drunk you know and so I got in my own way a little bit my but just as well because you know if I'd gone off to who knows right every could've still been do what you've learned a lot of stuff did you learn a lot of abilities and different things in Clown College the only thing that you had to learn was stilt walking why don't they still Walker had to learn still walking everything else by the time you were in Clown College was just sort of an exercise in making you like as impressive as you could be like whenever your strengths were they were happy to play into that mm-hmm and they just wanted you to be like the most entertaining version of yourself that you could yeah to me clowns or more mannerisms like how they go and act and how they move their bodies and stuff yep I mean there's different components but yeah there's acrobatics their skills there's just plain mannerisms there's generally being funny right I turned my focus to skills more than anything I mean I had never wanted to be a clown I wanted to be a stuntman and that was why I was there but by the time we got through it like I had fallen in love with the dream yeah and I and I didn't so I went back to Albuquerque to live with my sister and sell drugs and I had this like super expensive closet hanging in there it's it's expensive costume hanging in the closet and nothing to wear it for and that was when I just [ __ ] went to war with the firestarters yeah and by that point I had like picked up sponsors in the skate industry like X Y Z clothing that's right yeah deafs shoes well I heard a funny story that you actually went to the trade show and was popping in your response ermita yeah but it wasn't it was a it was was it a skating sponsor me tape yeah you did skating in there but it was like me drinking bong water fire jumping off rooftops like you were here for jumping fire yeah and and I would walk around the skate can the conventions actually surf Expo in Orlando okay where you know this like goofy skate company that got me in and I knew that they weren't [ __ ] him goofy people didn't knew nothing about skating but yes so I went around the the trade show going up to booths and you know booth had like you know a set up promote their [ __ ] and there's a TV with a VCR and I would just brazenly go up to booth and hit stop eject their tail promo put it in my teeth like this [ __ ] [ __ ] I'm playing my tape on their booth just like a huge investment to be at this trade show I was like check this out dude aw dude you're gonna love it okay everybody everybody was so [ __ ] pissed but then I went to the XYZ booth pulled the same trick and Tommy Caudill who's a dear friend of mine man ever since yeah ever since the dearest friend and he started an XYZ clothing with Danny Way and he was like sees me flying through there off the building on fire blowing fire like 30 feet up in the air and he's like is that you and I'm like [ __ ] yeah he was like did I want to put this in my next video man and I was like [ __ ] yeah so we'd like within within a half an hour were just shotgunning beers gets eroded like you know nobody to say as thieves nicosia and he was such a gnarly alcoholic and just his whole mentality like when the trade show is over he didn't like pack everything up he just destroyed left it there in heaps and all the actual clothes he gave to me and I was like dude I'm sponsored and they were bad exercise he's banned for life from being in that and I was like you know Simon any dude like I'm on XYZ dude I'm gonna [ __ ] try and get him to sponsor you okay and they did no they did they were sure about Simon Eddie until I sent Tommy this video and and this [ __ ] crazy dude Simon Eddie and his thinking was like dude Burger King always has apple pie on the menu like McDonald's always has apple pie on the menu but Wendy's never had a pie on the menu so Simon Eddie is still in high school is way before I met her he had this footage he goes films himself going through the Wendy's drive-through and he goes up to the he orders a soda mm-hmm and then he gets to the window and the ladies in the window he says have any pies and she goes no and he's holding a [ __ ] pie like a clown pie and he just throws it through the window like perfect through that love just yeah right into her [ __ ] face he pider he bears the Wendy's pie toss keep I'd her and then her screeches out now of course she called the cops this is like a total of [ __ ] assault sure she's like I think she was like he looks like a high school kid cops show up at his high school the next day and they are whenever they picked picked him out of the yearbook he like I'm busted by cops the next day it was like in trouble but he had the footage and that footage got him on XYZ one good way because tommy was like hey he's rad skater but the world is full of rad skaters oh yeah there was like I wasn't so sure but the Wendy's pied toss is like that god I've never told that story on any level well he's all cleared now it's all good yeah yeah he was just campaigning for Wendy's to have a [ __ ] pie Frosty's yeah man so the XYZ thing and I was sponsored for drinking bong water and watch myself on fire that's basically it you know like and that's just how [ __ ] how rad you know Tommy cardio is what anyway like Danny Way fell in love with me when I drank his barn water in his living room okay I mean how could you not mommy's always how old were you at this point when you had what the X Y Z thing when I met Tommy I was 22 oh okay this is the first week of January 1996 Wow so yeah and now I'm 45 some more than half my life ago well by the way did any of that footage make it into the Big Brother video or were they taking photos or were they filming for the big my very first drinking bong water clip was featured in my big brother part my first big bro okay but when you went back to when they when they came into town and they were filming you you had markavitch do the same and did that make it in there I don't remember that I think yeah that was me Ricky Ricky bean ball shot that this must be a promo video and then right it didn't do the promo video oh they didn't add the tradeshows but yeah so that was exclusive for Duff's gotcha yeah and so I was in that I had a part in the XYZ video I had some footage and duff's and then I started working on the part for the Big Brother video right right and how did Big Brother were you sending them I mean I think it I never sent anything to them until the burning of my face oh and but they went home with I supplied them with with you know your real and that established a connection between me and Big Brother and once I had that connection I was the most persistent like just incessant loanable no I'm [ __ ] stop having to do that you know and they couldn't stand me but they saw value and what I was prepared to do who's your contact down there okay Wow and he hated it but he understood the importance of it so because when they did the Florida to where I was back in Florida and and and and they actually reached out they're like here we're gonna be in Florida and I was like huh I'm so [ __ ] ready did you have a little plan ready a Russian stunts and stuff through it my first ever double front flip off of a bridge which I came up like short in the worst way it was exactly one in three quarters I was back flat but but yeah that was when we did the home I did the hoho walk him down the stairs on my hand oh you had to cover a big brother okay yeah it was only supposed to be like they meet up and we shoot for them but once we met up like I did to myself to them and they were actually actively trying to ditch me they failed in ditching me I just was so [ __ ] determined and persistent that I just tagged along for the rest of the trip and just kept getting footage got your closet oh no got the cover you know broke my heart because when the cover came out when that issue came out like I had the cover I had the whole introduction page I had like like a you know a two-page spread interview like and then a bunch of photos in the article like I was all over it was like my issue I came up with so much content but in the story that they wrote you know about the the trip they were really [ __ ] bashing on it kind of broke my heart they were just like we could we hated this [ __ ] kid we're trying to ditch you know the reason I was back in Florida too is because my mom had suffered an aneurysm and survived it my sister and I moved back to to be there to take care of her and stuff and they kind of like wrote the article like he's doing fire-breathing backflips and his like you know mom's living room while she's in this like condition like implying those like you know it was just disrespectful maybe like a little it bordered on like really [ __ ] tasteless and and to the extent that I was just sensitive about it feelings like guy it took me a long time to let go of that resentment big brother they were kind of like that they were they were just they were stirring [ __ ] up you know and I'm glad I mean we're getting into the weeds and for the people who aren't aware of big brother and God there's this documentary on Hulu on Hulu called dumb the story of Big Brother magazine and it's it's essentially a jackass origin documentary right how do I get started and I went to the premiere in New York they had a premiere and I was so struck like I had this document I had such a crazy impact on me because jackass and like everything that we've done under the name jackass has it's been self-destructive at times it's been irreverent it's been very naughty very [ __ ] up however it was never mean-spirited you know jackass had this spirit about it that was like we only ever hurt ourselves yeah right only willing participants ever got the short end of the stick sure yeah like it had this comradery this this spirit this positivity yeah yeah and and it's just crazy because when I went to that big brother documentary big brother did not have that they were going after everybody and it was really [ __ ] up like it's the way that documentary was the whole story and everything was all put together into one presentation it was just like it's just was stark like I mean it was this Emma the origin of Big Brother is incredible yeah but Steve Rocco oh yeah that's not going to love that but but like it was a magazine that was targeted for little kids filled with nudity and just an awful [ __ ] and they just awful [ __ ] like the extent to which Big Brother was [ __ ] awful malicious like means food like in many ways it was it was like really I walked out of that premiere like with a hangover well people loved it but at the same time they shot themselves in the flow I loved it you know they just uh there's only so many years you could do that to people before right you know and then they did the whole Flint thing and then whatever's right my first issue that I was in a big brother magazine was the first issue that was published by Larry Flynt Oh seriously yeah that was the cover I I wasn't no no no no oh that my first dish I had been in Big Brother before that flick I gotcha yeah my first issue that I was ever in it preceded that I can't remember who was on the what was it did you know you're gonna be on the cover or did they surprise ya you did it okay that's amazing yeah I can't remember when I found out but they were pretty uh you know cards like close yeah right when you got in the magazine but you like making any sort of money oh god no like what how are you supporting yourself I was a principal cast member on the [ __ ] MTV's but like how are you getting by just you were just like sleeping on couches or at that point I was selling drugs I was an Albuquerque when it first happened yeah and then um and then I ended up getting a job on cruise ships oh yes shortly after that and she came out with me on the cover who I had graduated Clown College not got in a contract but but when I like that I was so hurt that I wasn't in the circus I just went to [ __ ] war getting the craziest gnarliest best footage that I could yeah and when I edited those tapes together with that new like footage post Clown College I chipped it off to the clowns who were in the circus liked [ __ ] look at I am [ __ ] making like nothing their lives were not good they weren't making any money and some of the clowns who were in the circus we're like [ __ ] this we can get a better gig you know like listen leave this jerk because [ __ ] this and they fed they drummed up a gig on Royal Caribbean cruise lines which paid like 600 and some you know maybe 650 bucks per week and and like the cabins are big and you're on like this permanent vacation seriously way upgrade and they got the gig but they needed to fill some spots and they hadn't seen the video I sent the circus and said they got a hold of me and at that point I was dressing up as a clown letting myself on fire barred tricks in a nightclub for like 70 bucks a night and those clowns came to the nightclub I was like oh yeah I got this gig at the nightclub come check me out and they came to check me out they're like all right dude you want to do this gig and I was like [ __ ] yeah I wanted to do this gig so I go out to this cruise ship gig and we got paid in cash every other week and the first week that I think one of the first weeks I [ __ ] took ten one hundred dollar bills and stapled them all over my body I got it I called it the thousand dollar man you're making up your own routines on that they didn't have like a so interesting but yeah we collaborated as a group oh and and I didn't collaborate very well like the other clowns are like kind of had enough like me not giving a fun trip and they were just like I ended up losing that job but then the boss client told me hey better call up your buddies in the skateboard world because this contract I'm just telling you it's not getting renewed yeah you're not supposed to know it but I want you to know as a bro okay so I reached out to Tremaine and and and I was like hey dude like I your 2000s coming up 1999 and I walked off the cruise ship in like November of 1999 so I called Tremaine now I was like I'm gonna do the most epic [ __ ] stunt for when it becomes the new millennium like I said I'm always walking on stilts on the cruise ship and I'm terrified of falling over okay so I decided I'm gonna fall over like while I'm on stilts but not just that I'm gonna have my 10 foot you know I'm ten feet tall and still it's with this stilt costume that covers the stilts I'm gonna set it on fire so I'm engulfed in flames and I'm gonna have a uni cyclists riding a unicycle through my flaming stilts and I'm gonna be blowing a fireball out of my mouth which Brian Simon Eddie will be ollie and off the roof of the house and then when the Uni cyclist and Simon Eddie route right away as the flames get more intense I'm gonna crack open a beer and pound him while I tip myself over and crash onto the concrete Ned dreams like a cool so I am [ __ ] put together still walked off the ship the ship with enough money to buy a used car and fly myself out to California by the still it's by the oh wow seriously I actually got another trip to California out of it but yeah I spent all the money just investing in like [ __ ] making myself seen in skateboarding and when I got out to California we did this this stilt stunt on de-stem December 30th of 1999 and I sourced a [ __ ] any cyclist I got Simon Eddie I did put it all together myself and that was when I met knocks home for the first time and and caught was Cossack there Ballard Danny Way Wow Danny Way came out to give me an elbow pad I was like dude I want to know what Knox was there Tremaine was there I think Kasich was there too and and we showed up to do this still it's done and Tremaine was like hey all right Congrats he made it out of here so now that you're all you've come on I came from Florida all the way to do that he said now that you're here I can tell you this isn't just for a big brother we're doing this for a pilot for MTV yeah and it was like kind of because I had put like that level of commitment like that level of initiative that like that that level poking them yeah yeah yeah and it was the photo came out dope man yeah si man he was right in the middle of the [ __ ] fireball the Uni cyclist was still hanging in there still costume was like knives on fires I would like sure sure you know it was the best take of the three costumes I torched and so they filmed this for the pilot is right highlight but but soon learned the MTV had no since became her about fire had like lawsuits everyone like beavis and butt-head a kid burned down a trailer and killed his sister there's another thing with like one of their offices caught fire they had like bad okay history with fire and so like the footage wasn't destined to see the light of day but they got to see your talents your skills sure yeah than the actual skill and the creative of the idea you know just the the level of like how it was just like the lengths that I went to to make the Hat and I had already like demonstrated myself to be someone who wasn't gonna [ __ ] around somebody was gonna deliver I mean they're filming something for MTV I mean here's a guy that's coming out driving out putting this whole thing together he's not half-assing it yeah I went back to my sister's house where where you know our mom was in this terrible condition and my sister is like Nam broke you know and approaching broke shirt and my sister said if you think you're gonna be a [ __ ] unemployed loser and you don't [ __ ] food and make a master out of your mind she said there's a flea market down at Fort Lauderdale and you're gonna go down there and tell him you're a [ __ ] clown you're gonna get and I didn't they hired me the next day basically my dad a circus with three elephants and I weren't in that circus for like the next six months until the pilot got ordered and my last day in that circus at the flea market was the first day filming for Jackass the series because Noxon Tremaine and Pontius and everybody showed up and were you in communication this whole six months like it because obviously you must have been excited that there I wanted a pilot oh yeah I was and I told that I told when I caught up Jeff Tremaine on my birthday the day I turned 26 and and I was like your mate it's my birthday nowadays you just post it on Instagram that was like par for the course for me and I remember chu and said hey nan happy birthday and good news the pilot got ordered it's not a pilot anymore now it's a series and he said we're gonna come out to Florida so be ready to shoot in like a month and a half and don't wait at all to send us all of the footage you've got so we can license it and acquire it okay so you're not really a cast member yet or you're part of it or they're just using in the pilot okay doing the pilot with like footage from that thing but you know how that stuff works so yeah like understood that I would play a role like just have God didn't necessarily with the show even right everything was pretty fluid and could've gone anyway you know and there are plenty of people like ended up being cast members hope contributors that's a bunch of people who very easily could become cast members but dinner yeah oh yeah carny kind of bowed out of it and inherited Big Brother instead I feel like oh yeah there are other players that you know were the people who are really in it you know I kind of presented themselves and I sent in all the footage that I had and learned that because they had a rule about you can't jump over like a certain height there are like it's a pretty liberal liability for lawsuits you can't encourage kids to do certain things so they had a cut-off point for how high you could jump off from [ __ ] okay my like baseline was way about fire and I was always because whatever is your gig the fire them spinning around and whatever you do it's just [ __ ] cooler if you do it while you're on fire so I'm either like on fire or jumping off something way too tall or jumping off something way to tell while I'm on fire and if I wasn't doing some combination of those things that was it was really [ __ ] up by drinking bong water like whatever I was like had a pretty absurd standard for what I considered you know entertaining sure and like pretty much landed like outside of what MTV was okay with so I was concerned like when I found out that they can Jeff said hey man we got your footage but we can't put any of it on TV oh wow it's too gnarly in some cases to be fair it was just filmed too shitty you know yeah but up but yeah so I just thought man I was worried like what kind of watered-down [ __ ] is this show gonna be I was worried it'd be successful because of all the other rules in the censorship right but they figured out their way around the rules pretty quickly oh hey jackass got more and more like throughout the years got it got crazier yeah like they really watch the limits actually leaned on us because like there was a lot of outrage and when it came out kids were shown up in the hospital yeah and it was there's a lot of heat on MTV and they got to a point where they were really watering us down and then knoxville said [ __ ] that i quit and then they did that said that yeah i think so had it in his mind knock so I had like the idea of okay well if I quit the show they're never gonna want to cuz the profit margin was insane it was the highest ratings that it was the most successful like half-hour program and kind of thing like that like the most awesome orange would later come and become more profitable mmm-hmm but I don't even know if it was just but it just makes sense to then turn in a little movie because with the R rating yeah you don't have to worry about the aw station kids sure and you know knock so I just wanted to be a movie star yeah [Applause] like you said there's a lot of camaraderie with you guys was there a lot of competition as a bunch of attention [ __ ] battling for screen times right and and and much like with skateboard and you know like the early 8th Street days you know you and any skate video you hear like oh you know like and then we'd find out like this somebody got this trick and then that would just motivate me to get yes making a glorified skate video sure you're like when when one guy gets footage you get what I call footage envy yeah [ __ ] you see knocks what he does and it's just like wow Oh see yeah you would hear about what he's like you know it's very democratic such that not one buddy gets more screen time because they're who they are but whatever the best footage is yeah it's because there's some instances where you all like everybody does that stunt but they're gonna edit it down to whoever had the best crash or the best he's made in there yeah right there's a lot of that where he's was a Sikh to carve your house but you didn't want your dad out uh-huh I done did it right and it worked out so great because it was like it represented the first time I had but backed out of his stunt so they could say like Stevo is down to do everything until this car up his ass right and now like all these years later I'm I'm looking for a way to give myself Redemption [Laughter] he was at the Oscars and I was like man I always thought if I ever got an Oscar like I'd be the first guy ever onstage to pull down my pants and shove it up my butt which I did with one of those toy Oscars that they sell at the souvenirs I got a train were you bummed that they didn't acknowledge Dunn's death oh I don't think that ever even entered my mind I mean if if they had acknowledged jackass on some level and but not done I think that that would but I just think that uh done was a part of something that just was never on the radar of the Oscar blockbuster cameras like they brought in yeah but there's something about the Oscars that is not about box-office revenue and it's more about like highbrow of which jackass is not considered will you ever starstruck by these guys the Big Brother like when they came when they you know when they came out Florida or something you got Kasich and and Tremaine yeah these dudes like just big just big brother I was absolutely stars holoman interesting yeah it's no it's about I mean I remember when I first got when shot with Kasich it was like his baby I was like well this right [ __ ] like I don't think if our photo ever made it in the mag but I was still an honor and a privilege dude Cossack all the way yeah yeah with Knox here I mean [ __ ] oh yeah when Knox will first showed up in the magazine riding the ball oh wow shooting himself with the gun and riding the ball came first really I think it did okay that was the first thing I saw I think I feel like the gun thing kind of just blew a mom out of the water well actually I think the you're right the gun did come first because that's not so whole story that like I think Nanak Zoe's story is very much the same as the song shooting star by bad company where like you know he comes to the door maybe it was like mom I'm going away like I'm gonna be a big star someday and like he goes out to California straight out of high school 18 years old the first thing he's his mom I'm out of here I'm gonna become a star so he goes out to LA and like he got work in television commercials and like he got by but like his dream was to the heat like was how I'm gonna be [ __ ] I'm gonna be a big star someday sure you know here was like you know approaching 30 and hadn't really like had that big thing hit and so he was like all right [ __ ] this I'm sick of trying to go get discovered in an audition like [ __ ] that I'm going to force people to you know I'm gonna force myself on people and his way of doing that was be part of what he was doing was like freelance writing so he put together this pitch like I'm gonna do a self defense review and the same thing that we know he did we have ace and the gun it's red pepper spray or they're the stun gosh sure and the Taser and he pitched this this product review to every media outlet Under the Sun like you know Letterman oh I know Howard Stern Show like nobody print if there was TV ratings like keep it everyone and everybody was like [ __ ] now we're not gonna seriously [ __ ] profess to shoot yourself or us know everybody turned it down except for Jeff Tremaine and I think that was where the relationship with big brother Knox no I remember that's where I took notice of it so maybe it may have been the first was like don't just like write the article like go ahead and make sure you video it yeah yeah interestingly the idea was not initially for him to to shoot himself the way that he did and he considered it way more dangerous to shoot himself because of the proximity of the gun yeah you know he wanted somebody else to shoot him from some further away but nobody was willing to do that because they were like [ __ ] if he dies oh yeah in the footage you could hear him say man I wish someone would shoot me oh yeah yeah because he thought it was gnarlier but sure I think it was less I think he was safer the way he did it because okay Brad got the gun with the kickback hochi was holding himself you saw the gun go flying like 12 feet yeah I think that took some heat off of it like not like reinforcing it to push it well he survived he did as soon as they were shooting [ __ ] together mm-hmm Tremaine already had the the idea I want to do this on a more regular basis because he's the sense the popularity of like all the crazy [ __ ] and I think you know he reached out to Spike Jonze at some point like earlier on then then we would even imagine and said like hey spike everybody loves our big brother videos but like it's the skateboarding that doesn't really what makes our videos so [ __ ] popular is everything except the skating yeah he said I think if we subtract you know the skateboard and then what's left over it could be a [ __ ] [ __ ] in TV show first then when they took out the skating what was left over was wee man and pond yes yeah yeah yeah and even having spike behind it it's oh yeah 100% kitsch now it was even in a bunch of skits to the old lady thing and yeah he was in a bar yes definitely he's rad because how did it spikes probably the only reason why it happened period because to my concerns about like where they couldn't show anything of my footage like if that project came to MTV or Comedy Central or anywhere they pitched it to without spikes name on it they'd be like are you [ __ ] kidding me we know we can't show this we'll get sued like this is like no way this is allowed on TV yeah but I think because it came with Spike Jonze there was just something that made it a little bit more legit totally now I think spike was able to [ __ ] jam it through the door yeah and maybe they trusted spike a little more to follow the rules maybe I think that like the fact that he even happened in the first place like you know there's so much about it that's just lightning in a bottle it's amazing that but I think spike really without spike on things sure yeah when did jackass really start taking off and you guys started meeting up and actually doing the show legit together we as a cast were never all in one place until we were shooting the second season sort of a hodgepodge put together would you talk to them and come up with ideas and being okay steve-o you go shoot that we're gonna go shoot this and when you were split apart though oh no oh you would just do do your own thing okay I got you and you were just sent it in and hope when once the show was on then they were filming but but BAM would be filming in Philly and they'd all go to Philly gotcha okay then they'd come to Florida and shoot with me okay incarnation of Jackass always involved shooting in Florida Tremaine just loves Florida with Knoxville just loves Florida yeah you know there's like I think for different reasons but it's just Florida's just always been a go-to so jackass only lasted what three seasons the TV show is three seasons and then there were three theatrical releases Jackass 2.5 wait was there wasn't a point five and that doesn't count as a theatrical release because it was never in theaters it was almost like like a DVD would come with like deleted scenes it's kind of like we would have so many deleted scenes that they just put it out separately so there was jackass the movie and that was that and then there was jackass number two that's right yeah came along with 2.5 which was an ancillary sort of compilation of deleted scenes and there's jackass 3d and 3.5 and those movies were all four years apart yeah and then the then three years after his 3d came bad grandpa that's right by granddad and and then it was just radio silence you know until recently and then before Paramount Pictures announced jackass number four incredible it's it's really really wild are you still I mean listen you grew up doing all these stunts where you know everybody's a bit older now sure well I think like after you know if you bring a new cast member well do you want to top yourself with new stuff right so I mean here's here's my yeah yes we're considerably older at the same time like I have not stopped you know like I know you do your comedy stand-ups and you still do the fire routines - right like intermittently over the last nine years or so there's been times where one guy in particular would email the whole cast spike Treme everybody all come on let's make that goes forward so what everybody wants yeah and you know like he'd be really ready trying to rally for a trend and it would happen every so often and there was just either crickets on the other end or like yeah we are no but I would basically always respond to say hey dudes like you know I'm [ __ ] getting earlier I'm just as gnarly like I'm [ __ ] like being really gnarly and doing it for YouTube I would love to make a movie sure you know I'd be great to not be putting it but movie or no movie this is what I do and now my comedy tour has like married all of my worlds into one yeah where I went out for this nude tour I went out and did like the most over the [ __ ] top stunts like like I called the bucket list and really it was just as well be called the bottom of the barrel the ideas that I've had forever but they just weren't supposed to happen like like skydiving I never was interested in skydiving because everybody does it and it always ends the same way yeah so I said if I ever go skydiving because of the first time you have to have a dude strapped to your back I'm gonna be butt naked and furiously jacking off gonna time it so that as I fall out of the airplane I'm simultaneously blowing alert naked where the dude off on my back how did the guy that was did you even tell him it's the most like you know just how much it had to be done in order to find the company that would allow this to happen under their name you know the guy who is willing to be a striper back like with the gentleman backing up airplane full of dudes like logistic getting a boner that's right I took four cialis I brought a portable DVD player in the plane there's just all kinds of layers here okay another idea was to have like general anesthesia drugs administered through an IV while I was riding a bicycle which is the most [ __ ] up like illegal yeah like just completely life-threatening sure that's all part of my new tour and so I made like a comedy routine out of like just where these ideas came from and like what it was like to execute the play the clip after each bit I screen the footage in in in the show room right and it's so [ __ ] up with me Blunt Lord's everywhere I have a [ __ ] skin graft surgery [ __ ] getting the vasectomy Olympics we got legal waivers posted all over the venue saying like you know you forfeit your right to sue me if like you know so we have dudes fainting every will pass out if they see a vasectomy and it's not even that gnarly of a procedure is it like I'm things of like people passing out people laughing really hard is that it brought about such an insane anxiety for me like [ __ ] how do I follow this up whenever on this tour for over a year now and that anxiety and it's just like anything else you know like my whole career has been what am I gonna follow this up yeah and like once you just [ __ ] scratch everything off your list it creates a vacuum that where you come up with new ideas sure and I've essentially got my follow up tour to this bucket list tour and I've already got the sense that it's called steve-o has gone too far about like ideas that have been sitting around for a long time now it's actually coming up with stuff that just I would never even write write the ideas for the gone to fart or like they wouldn't have ever even come up to be sitting around because nothing about it makes sense even on the smallest yeah do people give you ideas that you do it's habit ideas can come from anyone yeah yeah yeah but yes so as far as jackass for voters when the idea came up I thought well [ __ ] you know I've been so active like for these ten years since the last one you know I just have I've built my own momentum I've got my own thing going and I'm in a position where I really I don't need it you know and like and and I've got this this follow-up tour kind of mapped out I know what it is that I'm gonna do next and so am I gonna do all of these ideas for jackass for am I gonna does that like cannibalize what I want to do next and does it make sense kind of in a pickle maybe I mean a little bit and does it make sense like is it really like the timing like it's our buddy Bam's been been having some of my pretty public issues sure like is it appropriate like is bam in a healthy place right right now and like then there's like collectively like it's one thing for me to be doing my comedy mixed with all these stunts because it's painted very clearly against the backdrop of like now in my 40s you know and so like there's context to what I'm doing and I'm like you know addressing it head on you know like it's the dynamic of a jackass movie in our 40s and some of us in our 50s is it weird so I was chewing on it and I thought you know like I'm just gonna stay out of the way and let like my reps okay like can I just tell me what they think oh and and [ __ ] it they said do it Simon I haven't heard that BAM is in or out I think that like BAM is in for one case like there's everyone's just really trying to help him get healthy yeah I don't think I think that everyone is a little bit you know do you want to like I don't know yeah I think dam is a little bit of a question mark and and you know I hope it's not like in any way disrespectful to say that but I'm just putting it out as sure like bam like well the last thing you want to do is if somebody's not in a good position is put them in a movie and doing all this stuff I mean it's I think the consensus among the cast is like can we really like let now that everybody's into it you know can we let Bam's you know situation dictate everybody else's situation and that doesn't feel right you know and maybe like that's the the motive motivating thing that gets some healthy I mean who knows yeah I never know I just we all love bad yeah and we want him well totally a hundred percent man he's he's the best I was in Assam when you used to drink a lot and do drugs or whatever when you were doing the stunts and then you got sober did you fought what was how did you transfer were doing the crazy stuff when you were loaded compared to when you got sober it hurt more when you were sober probably it was like sobriety is I'm creeping up on 12 years for it and it's such a small process that like I didn't know what you know I didn't know what was going on man I was so like I'm sure but I didn't know if I had this in me you know I didn't know like what what being a jackass in sobriety even looked like yeah hang it up you know they talk about in sobriety how like you know the disease of alcoholism an addiction is so like ego driven that you kind of like in order to be sober you have to deflate the ego it's like but how do you deflate the ego and like operate in this industry that's nothing but ego it also counterintuitive and it was so like early sobriety is just so frayed and vulnerable and like just not comfortable in your own skin and like it just it was I had not found my voice nor was I comfortable in my own skin when we filmed jackass 3d oh seriously I was approaching two years of sobriety when when we shot that like we were a little over a month in to filming when I turned two years sober Oh still like it's a slow process yeah so you know to be a newcomer and sobriety on the set of jackassery is like if I brought back with memories of filming when you were loaded and being around all these guys remember distinctly you know filming with the boy at the bull ranch and there was this like tradition of like when we wrapped filming everybody goes to the bird it's like even at the end of the bit are you off to the bar yeah yeah yeah and I remember like going back to my hotel room by myself and being like like [ __ ] man I remember this this for some reason I remember laying in the bathtub just being sad like everyone's at the bar celebrating the camaraderie or day's work and I'm here long and like and then all this I thought that for like maybe five seconds and I was like if I go to the bar and take a drink there is no day of work to say so to answer your question about what was it like to do the gnarly stunts by the time we got on the 3d thing like I was like more gung-ho then like maybe then I'd ever been because I was so important to prove to myself and everybody else that I had it in me okay and ever since then like I totally found my voice I totally like became comfortable in my own skin and ultimately became more creative I think than I ever was before hmm um I think I've just evolved and grown and improved like sort of as you know an entertainer yeah that's my theory right on that what drove me when I was loaded wasn't it wasn't like oh I did all this stuff because I was on drugs and I was drunk mm-hmm it was that I was an attention [ __ ] oh now like you take away the drugs and the alcohol and I'm just a sober attention and so that's what drives me and so really nothing's different and it's always like it's it's and plus there's like the the progression and that you know it's crazy for me to look back at like say like the first jackass maybe Wasabi's neuters like I hardly [ __ ] snorted anything like to look in there in the the footage like hot like that just shows how far back that was and the tremaine let that slide said like that's a wrap cut we got it because like if we were to do that today and I was with all this UFC fighters with Jorge Maz at all and his manager and like they got this this this fighter guy that they just like beat up on my feeling dude we'll give you 50 bucks you do this that [ __ ] snorted a whole plate of asado he kept I was feeding it job could not believe I was just like dude this guy's sabe plug you thankfully jackass wasn't as much about like how cuz when you get to a certain level of gnarliness it just almost becomes too much and like dark so there's something about jackass we're just it's right on I mean it's a lot of is just way too much but yeah it's not that other people couldn't be as gnarly there's just some kind of magic between us yeah 100% of you know and people like watching people get [ __ ] up they do it's insane thing it's the same like the same thing that makes you rubberneck yeah that's why there's a chapter damn every time is because people are compelled yeah it's funny how we say like oh I hate watching people get [ __ ] up and I want a jackass and I will laugh my ass off it's humans animals anything that's getting hurt I I I I hate I have a surprising like cutoff point where I'll turn turn my attention away oh if likes it involves someone getting seriously injured I got you don't know until they're seriously injured right by the mystery cases oh we like like like on TMZ like judge me if you want but that's where I get my news and it's pretty reliable you got a click if you wanna see it you don't click anything during filming of Jackass MTV or jackass and movies where you didn't even know watch something go down god I never want her to watch Knoxville in front of balls for like entertaining like participation on camera because like here you pan to me and I'm like you know like knock saw has always felt just unaccountable for whatever he did in the presence of balls and like for me like I have my superpower is sharks these guys jumping in the water next to great white you know all the jackass guys as having like some kind of like superpower you know like like I mean people step off a curb and fall and break their [ __ ] you know break something and here you guys are just flying through the air and doing bowls and sharks in here you get your finger bit that was my biggest thing about like if there was gonna be a jackass for was just like dude like we've survived so much like it's such it's such lightning in a bottle it's such a magical story it's just like a [ __ ] beautiful thing and like I just like knock so again in front of Bulls yeah like it's just like I never really struggled with Knoxville getting in front of always and like just to imagine like okay now after all of this after everything that we've made it through like you know here we go again and I remember talking to Knoxville about this you know and just saying like yeah dude you know like I had her I had like a rule on 3d you know it's just gonna be the same rule I was sober on 3d and I felt that way then like I've survived enough then now after everything I've been through like to just be crippled or paralyzed or you know or whatever it doesn't make sense to me so like that was my role and I made a mission statement at the beginning of jackass 3 I said if it as long as it doesn't involve like you know getting paralyzed or killed I mean taking that off the table you know like it really takes a lot of things off the table you know I like if you're gonna try to eliminate like real what our skydiving Jack enough like fall and do that so you know I was just like I can't step up for like if we got the bungee flying through the air yeah that was like a five-point harness and like I think it was about as safe as being on a roller coaster yeah okay it was just like I'm covered in [ __ ] real [ __ ] dude so that's just like my like that's what I'm down for it you know I don't want to get paralyzed now I don't want to get Caleb right but like coverage it if you put like I just promised myself that I'm not gonna [ __ ] back out as if over any other concern sure you know or any other concern I gotta be in and that's tough but I kept my promise to myself and I had a conversation knock so about this movie I said I'm gonna have the same rule you know you know and not so set on leave the paralyzed stuff to me Wow he's like these and he's got this look of determination when he says it like it's like knob like op oh you know I'll carry that load but I can imagine though going from the TV show to a movie production there's got to be more safety guys and and stuff like that around movie it's rated R and it's like [ __ ] like weird big screens sure don't come with any half-assed ideas and I remember I was in his office when he said that and I felt like indignant like offended that he would suggest that I would come up with a half-assed idea and my knee-jerk response to him was no happiest idea is everything's gonna be bigger then I said how about if I got a tattoo of myself bigger than myself he describes that very moment as you know his his mind was shaking his head but on the condition that we get like the best guy in the world to do it it's not funny if it's not like I call it yeah yeah yeah yeah and that was like my reactions what's it like on the set are you always cautiously aware of like what's going on like yes but like that only reaches like a [ __ ] gnarly fever pitch toward then towards the end is when I mean it can happen anytime can happen but like there's just like it she's not even [ __ ] fun anymore like the last time on things cuz there's a lot of behind the scenes is just you mucking around with just shits too much in there by the time last month it's like [ __ ] dude I feel like Kasich is the one who's really good I mean he's looking through a lens that all of a sudden getting yes slapped around or something I made all that change with the 3d though because like the 3d camera you guys are using it was [ __ ] huge it's not easy to move around you can't go chasing after someone with [ __ ] glasses with a 3d camera and I haven't heard a word about 3d anymore anything queer back to that's amazing I don't even know what camera it'll be read or whatever it is so you have you guys even started this jackass sir there was two days of test filming mm-hmm for which I was not present but I heard everything about it and and like oh I wonder if I shouldn't say they there are they they are enlisting like you know it's some serious like cameos hope sick oh wow some like people who are gonna be like heavy hitters you know kidnapped again I don't want to say anything I'm not supposed to say just whisper it to us I [Music] wasn't there I know those two days were like phenomenally [ __ ] successful and it's inspired Paramount to say [ __ ] ads greenlit all the way and you know I won't say anything what I heard about that was filmed on those two days but I'm pretty sure jaws broke his wrist so I'm just like and whatever I'm not seeing anything more than that but like I'm just so [ __ ] stoked on jaws oh yeah I'm stoked on jaws and I'm stoked that I don't think that I just think he's just gonna appear in like you know sure 10 but but yeah I'm sure the hawk Man will be in there oh yeah I would presume yeah I don't ya think yeah I'd want to say anything else but I'm just I'm such a [ __ ] fan of jaws and not just because of like what a freak of nature he is on a skateboard and just like like I worried for his joints like his knees and she is so nude you know with all the the impact can't be good for him but like all that aside it's just he's the most entertaining skater to watch if you saw him on king of the road yeah that [ __ ] kid on king of the road I mean just if you pull just all them skate things he did all the [ __ ] diversity of what he skated what he accomplished on a skateboard and just made that a video part mmm the world upside down and what's even better and more impressive about this kid is how like how his head is so screwed on there's just no there's so much humility there's so much like common sense there's so much like planning for the future and I really see it as like the way that stacy peralta cared for the Bones Brigade and like told them like hey yo this career is not forever like she's gotta like you got prepared for what's next and like help those guys sort of segue from their career into like the business side of skating I kind of see hawk like passing that torch to jaws and he's like just been so sensible like you know with his money like you know getting the house and like really like setting himself up for the future and I just think everything about jaws is [ __ ] badass and so yeah I blurted it out I don't know if his footage will get used I don't even know for a fact if he broke his wrist I heard that he got hurt I heard that the [ __ ] shot was unbelievable and and there is a possibility that we'll see him he's such a nice dude I think he deserves the world too he's just he's an amazing of the people I know who have been enlisted to make appearances mm um so far I've heard nothing but [ __ ] mind-blowing success you know what's rad to his jaws is so calculated as well like he knows the the height of stairs and he knows like what his limits are and oh this is above that I can't go above this or it's like he's so cuddly that like worst slams little compilation example of something I saw the thumbnail on you - yeah and I chose not confirm for your high person I did not watch it yeah so funny Steve oh man he doesn't want to watch people get hurt yeah yeah yeah it's cool no you know if it's in a movie or if it's on no they didn't die or they paralyzed I think they're okay you know God some of the funny oh my god I can't it's I mean dude it's a it's a really [ __ ] magical like piece of history that I was blessed I would just love to just be on set one day just to watch I'm sure a lot of people would but it's fascinating to me like how all these things go down and how you guys film it and I was on set for jackass three guys did he was the treadmill things in the UI and you're off to the side like with your dog yeah I remember that day well and yeah I think that was a little bit lackluster a bit you guys are pretty much to have one okay I'm sorry fire gauntlet yeah or the same setting anyway same seven there's all like you guys really trust falling into boxes and with that yeah yeah oh my god I mean and there is like a bar has to be raised don't know and like it is the bar is so stupid i thirsty but you know what though as long as it's entertaining and you guys are having fun and you guys are doing it it's gonna be great oh I mean you know I'm home yeah I think I god I'm gung ho and I wasn't even sure about it because like I had to deal with myself like hey this time around I think I'm gonna let my guy do it cuz I don't even know I could make an argument for not wanting to be involved and I could make an argument for wanting to be involved right and they're both totally valid so I just removed myself from the equation and and let my entertainment lawyer and like handle everything and that is actually today that it must be such a different letting somebody else deal with it then having you being control does it feel a little disconnected at all or does he keep you well-informed all of the communication that I was involved in like I just wish I wasn't you know like negotiating business with it's just like you know it's great we're having this conversation and I love you so much but like I made a deal with myself that I wasn't gonna do the negotiating you know or somebody else yeah so I wish I wish that it was purely like my guy doing it right it wasn't and whatever we got it done yeah and we're all family anyways so [ __ ] cares can't wait yeah given that it was precisely that I can I can say that just like I'm Priam I got to survive some cyber Leon's a load off my chest and like [ __ ] any concerns I had because like you know [ __ ] it yeah that's what I it's what I do new speedboat or what do we look better than the TV show days but when it came up what my what my guy was talking about that we should get mm we didn't get that maybe some back end now it's submerge you know there's all kinds of ways to make money because I was never even motivated like it was just for me it was just I promised myself that I would like take the advice of my guy yeah my guy called up today and he said hey I can't advise you to not take this say I'm sorry they hate you that's all I needed all I ever needed was him to because I just wanted to be out of it yeah that's cool I'm gung ho sick I'm gonna [ __ ] be a maniac do they have a start date or is it imagine it'd take maybe like a year it's coming yeah it's not tomorrow but I think some sort of ritual getting ready for these stunts or anything like I do I count one two three go wow I've delayed like the one two three go part but once I'm able to count on my fingers one two three go like it's about to like I assess it you know I set it for the extent I figure out what it is and how it's gonna happen yeah and then like The Reluctant is like there is no reluctance after one two three go yes just crits this [ __ ] surreal thing words ev1 to the things that have like the history over the course of my life that I've put one two three go into it and like maintain this unblended unblemished like perfect record I've never backed out once you hesitate that could be a disaster or it can be a [ __ ] pure gold like whatnot right I've never backed down on one two three go and what's crazy shouldn't even say this but as a guide recovery there's a a real distinct parallel between doing a stunt and like doing the ninth step immense thing okay in the Knights ode amens yes yeah I mean ninth step amends are basically a stunt you know some stunts like are not that you know but one way or another like it's just not a joke one way or another it's not particularly comfortable and so like you know to acknowledge that you were wrong it's a really good habit to get into ya know and a lot of people don't have that muscle let alone like exercise it but it's uncomfortable like it's it's counterintuitive it goes against your instinct to acknowledge that you're wrong but where it becomes a really gnarly stunt is in in some cases like acknowledging the thing that you're acknowledging which was wrong sometimes you're drawing attention to that can bring about consequences you know and you know whatever it is you know if it's just some [ __ ] up thing where like all you need is I'm gonna go and tell that and then you've got like a scandal you know or like a lawsuit you know sure when when you have any kind of a public profile yeah like there's certain things where it's like yo I've got I've got some [ __ ] [ __ ] on the line but I got it I got a you know it says in our literature you know if we were painstaking about this process will be amazed before we're halfway through like we're gonna notice like that's when the magic starts and it's that pain stick it's just laden and with the immense like what those gnarly ones you're bringing up old [ __ ] I'll write it out on a piece of paper what it looks like what I'm acknowledging you know like the extent to the extent of detail that it's appropriate to acknowledge mmm you know the the wrong right like it cuz that varies and like it being real careful not to include sorry because it's not about being [ __ ] sorry it's about making it right it's not an apology right and it's just a big difference to fix something big difference to say you're sorry and something you figure out like what it is you say so then you're clearly but but then once I'd like yeah and I've done this like over the years like write it out like with my sponsor mm-hmm and then once we have it and I'm holding it I just I've never backed out of a stunt one two three go is my route that's not even like listening to some music or just rather we go it's it's it's like like religious kind of thing it's your madness like skating we have our madness and it's like you know and and I think that like where I've been it's only been a handful at times but when I was in that crossroads of like I'll put off like I know that I did something [ __ ] up and I know that I gotta because it'll like to follow me around like a black cloud like this we have like higher standards for our conscience you know when we've been the longer we stay sober like the less threshold we have for doing anything [ __ ] up you know and like a lot of these cases it's like when I finally do it people like what you're worried about that you know so like our conscience becomes a bigger thing and and when you know like when I've been in these fits like these positions where I'm like [ __ ] like I got a I've got to draw attention to this thing just to [ __ ] you know get this black cloud off of me you know and and like I got it I'm at a fork in the road I gotta choose what's more important to me like my reputation you know like my like that avoiding the consequences that you know I could be exposing myself to or like frankly you know my relationship with the universe you know my spiritual connection to like [ __ ] what this is all about sure it's when I've chosen when I said 1 2 3 go like I choose the universe I choose to walk the walk of a man with integrity like that's when I make that choice and want to make that when I do that stunt that's when the lights come on you know that's when the lights come on and that's when life is good and to be able to look myself in the mirror and be like I'm not talking about you know about like doing like being this I think I'm doing it yeah and that's just like that's why I think the definition of integrity and like I'm stoked to keep that intact I love that Wow yeah do you three go maybe that should be my new intro welcome to night club what did he go I know that we we could we could be here for 10 hours talking about I'm talking about I mean we have like come back we got you know international drug smuggler which you've talked about we've SeaWorld stuff that you've done up on the crane and changing streets on I mean we you know you've talked about it a lot you know Oh give us some exclusives about do you what's a what some stuff that you don't that you never talked about behind ties was okay so we got so we got our exclusive story what a good ryan dunn story okay ryan dunn that's one that was like one of the craziest things I've ever done was to have well start with we're being choked unconscious came from for us it landed on our radar while filming jackass the movie the first one mm-hmm and there's this legend of I said judo or never like martial arts this guy gene LeBell he's like an Olympian I think he's the guy who the stuntman who Brad Pitt's character was based on oh how about with that and I was recently with Ronda Rousey she was helping me try to get cauliflower ear and we were doing this in this video talking about it and she said gene LeBell is that he said to her she quartered him every r-e al I ever got in I won and and and at the end of my career I was broke every hour ee l fight I ever got in I lost and now I'm comfortably retired sorry to say that like his legitimate like Olympics like fighting career like made no money and he won everything and he was this great guy betters and stunts that he really got his ass beat on camera and made me so he's this like super like legend character like of Hollywood as well as you know martial arts and he was part of Jackass the movie where it was just straight choke us out you know like any like really proficient fighter will know how to choke someone unconscious machine labelled no exception and I never even heard Magus I used to do the chest I had some footage of that in my head like more [ __ ] up real okay like the whole cast it was [ __ ] remarkable all of us lined up by good you know in a row and gene LeBell just walked down the line and he was just like you know one of our to systematically just and laid us down and then drop him and it took no time at all like once his arms around you it's almost like you were already out we're like boom boom boom you know and like we're on the ground and we like wake up like from like being totally unconscious and it was just like this [ __ ] mic like it took so little time for him to do that that it was just shocking and fascinating and I thought this is like the most incredible thing so happy Creek but Spike Jonze and then rightfully so given that you know there was still concerned about liability for being easy to imitate and and even if that wasn't the case Spike Jones and I think everybody felt that that was just straight dark there was just too dark so that footage never saw the light of day however for having been there witnessing it having been choked out for some [ __ ] reason Ryan done just felt from that equipped to do it himself so we would be on tour tryin just started choking people out he just started [ __ ] choking people hate because we were on tour I had them steve-o's don't try this at home to her yes get on stage and do all this [ __ ] up [ __ ] just get loaded and there was a [ __ ] sure but but like it was it was kind of and it was a little bit legendary as bad as it was but we did a world tour show was awful but we were in our heyday and it was just yeah sex drugs there was it was everything that I wanted to like be from being a Motley Crue fan without had a musical ability and Ryan would say on stage who wants to get choked out like people would be he would bring people up on stage and [ __ ] show come out and I'm like Ryan no you can't [ __ ] do that dude like you can't like you've got you've got like a thousand witnesses not that like doing bad [ __ ] is bad if there's not witnesses but like but yeah and I would like I would be so uncomfortable with that I would like leave the stage I would just be like I came and [ __ ] deal with it and I would just be like almost like mad at him okay no but in conjunction with this tour we were filming for my too hot for TV I told you earlier America I had all this footage that wasn't allowed on TV right so I got into the business of distributing too hot for TV video the steve-o videos and we had the first one that we had volume to the tour and now we're actually touring internationally this this tour went through like 12 countries they they're in 12 countries represented on this DVD and it was a lot like Groundhog's Day you know I don't like filming the same [ __ ] over here in this routine so just wasn't that much footage like to set apart like one stop on the tour from the next shirt and it was starting to weigh on me like [ __ ] you know like what am i doing like where's my footage I'm light on footage so I need I need I need this I need a hit home clip yeah and like I was I mean dude this is [ __ ] up to say but this was all in the first six months of 2003 okay and like I've spent a lot of time even in sobriety thinking if there was six months of my life that I could just live on a loop because that was like that was the [ __ ] heyday dude like there was like routinely like 3,000 people and one [ __ ] venue standing room only chanting steve-o species that and I was just just on drugs and it was still kind of working but not really you know I was just getting away with it dude and I was just [ __ ] I was it was gnarly and one day it was probably my third consecutive day of being awake and I was just like finally you know and I hated everything about done during this but then I woke up the one morning and we got on our little tour van and I was like done choke me out choke so he chokes me out on camera and and he got I was unconscious undeniably there's no [ __ ] question about it and then and it was just like everyone was just kind of like [ __ ] stoked and then it was just like do it again and so then he did it again and then it's like yeah I forget if it was the third or fourth time I think it was like that the third time and the fourth time I think he just [ __ ] one time I was on a radio interview in the van while we're driving and all of a sudden his arm because I'm like kind of claustrophobic and he just did it without me even being ready for it I was like no no I'm in the middle of the like he just drops me I mean I don't know how he determined that like he could do that because we all had the same experience I didn't feel like [ __ ] I knew but he was pretty damn good dad was a master of everything yeah done got it done man so like progressively each time it took me longer to wake up oh whoa you could tell that it was just getting dark yeah and plus like our like you know wanted to make each one more satisfying like he started like not laying me down you know I was just so I'm standing he would just drop me okay yeah and so now like he's throwing me while I'm unconscious standing up and the last one he threw me real bad real bad and you know like and then he realized it like I like kind of landed on my head a little bit it was just that landing just floppy awful mess I actually posted this clip on my Instagram like a little montage of all six times oh wow six times in one day he was kind of realized there was a bad landing on that last one and he immediately turned around he's like students laughter me hey buddy come on I was like and and and I forget what I said I said like he slapped me and I kind of come too and I got all this coke falling out of my nose can I go you and me like we're forever there's something like that like we're [ __ ] we're Bros forever like it was this guy like warm heartwarming moment you know I turn to the camera and I Spit on the lens and it's just blood oh my god like it was [ __ ] heavy dude that was that was done did that crazy and then like when I was insufferable man done didn't like being around me and they had no good reason to like being around me you know like I was tough to be around and not they're like I'm easy to be around now but I'd like just so much improved okay and like it was just like like distinctly like I would characterize my relationship with Ryan Dunn as like I graded on him you know it was just a lot and he could handle me in small doses he knew that I got like footage that we needed but it's like alright around because granted especially I was unco Kane all the time so it was just that [ __ ] woodpeckers pecking away at you and just Batman and Ryan's Maccabi us by himself the one corner for sure so so like a hundred percent makes sense he that I did great on me easy to figure out why and I was so tough to be around because I was always so [ __ ] loaded and the more the less sleep I had in the more cooking the worse it was so there's it was tough yeah it's tough and then then when I got sober in 2008 and I was sober for the jackass 3d movie like then all of a sudden like done and done and I had started to have like a more like cohesive relationship like here's like me you know Steven so bad like it's like you'd even say like [ __ ] I like you so much better sober like please stay so yeah and I remember one time we were on the step and I'm sitting there [ __ ] eating like raw broccoli or some [ __ ] you know I was so like super vegan and super nutrition and jog in the mornings and [ __ ] like health and this is crazy different Stevo and he says how do you say it he said did Harry art he says he says you went from eat and crack off a dead hookers to rob broccoli what the fly just perfect you know and then I remember it was it was while we were filming jackass 3d that I that I started doing stand-up in Hurst you know I had done stand-up back as far as 2006 and I was all [ __ ] up and it was just like I bombed a couple times and it was just like I just I just too [ __ ] up and it was just too like weird yeah but but I had the sense the seat had been planted and I was like and then when I got sober it didn't make any sense at all - it's a go to bars or nightclubs because I just don't belong there but I had an actual reason to go to comedy clubs because like I'm you know primary purpose isn't to get loaded yeah that's the show sir I was with the check or buzz with friends that was like a go-to activity okay so in early sobriety would I did find myself going to comedy clubs and invariably I'd be sitting there looking at that stage thing I should be on that [ __ ] stage pocket should I'm just being a [ __ ] like [ __ ] I should really you had that one two three go yeah ended up like the first interview I did for jackass 3d which was way before it even came out I got it was like this they're recycling people through and and I showed up it was this young Hollywood thing and Dane Cook was in there they said I'll get in there you know like just go crash into Dane Cook's interview it'll be awesome so I walked in I met Dean Kirk and I was like ah dude you know I've tried to stand him before but I really want to dive in like in seriousness I want to get into stand-up and Dane Cook was so [ __ ] cool he just says like it's like yeah sure man I'll give you my number we'll get you up at the the improv like next week Wow and sure enough he gave me his number and I was like essentially at that point one two three go yeah I was like I can't [ __ ] you know I'm doing this like win lose or draw it's gonna happen so let me get to work and make it not be [ __ ] embarrassing yeah I just sat down and [ __ ] started writing chug remember my first joke was like you have been sober for you know a couple of years and you know like I've been sober ever since Johnny Knoxville pulled an intervention on me and you know you've got a [ __ ] problem when your interventionist is johnny Knoxville and it was a good joke yeah like icebreaker for the crowd yeah and I had this like you know I can't even remember what the first set really was but I remember like practicing at this like little hole in the wall open mic and like - right I had comics come over like you know a couple nights that week and run it by them and help tweak it and practice it and then sure enough like on the day that we planned Dane Cook and I went to the to the comedy club and he did his set and then I did my set and then he stuck around watch it and and sat down to give me notes okay and the first the first set that I did there he said all right here we said any said alright I'm not sending you back to the drawing board which was like what he meant to say was like you found something yeah you have something I'm not telling you to go back and start from scratch like the material that you just did is you know there's something there like coming on things hook in like you're super nervous and like you know you gotta kind of like you know relax a little bit and it wasn't even just the fact that he took the time to bring me under his wing and like give me that [ __ ] put so much wind in my cells I was like [ __ ] no so I like reached out and that was a Wednesday night and then next thing I got myself I'm on at the Laugh Factory that Friday well that Saturday Wow yeah when I showed up at the Laugh Factory that Friday and Saturday because when I had done in 2006 I did one leg routine and there was like okay I'm for that and then I was never gonna you're never gonna repeat it ever was gonna work on and hone it and so then when I came back less prepared I bombed in on this - how is it's a big regret that I didn't just [ __ ] work on the material right now this time around 2010 I'm like okay I'm coming back there's something here I'm gonna wear I'm gonna work it and when I came to the laughs after that Friday night and that Saturday night could happen to be there both times and he watched my set and gave me notes again Wow so I got into the [ __ ] I was on fire for it now so now I'm just [ __ ] every chance I get I'm at the comedy club like more nights than not Wow and in those early you know those early nights those are done came to the comedy club to watch me [ __ ] do my thing Wow and I think he was with BAM I'd forget who out but like it was uncomfortable to be late I like the way with the guys like you know if you're tend to doing something putting yourself out there like the guys are gonna [ __ ] with you it was like really like the idea of all I'm gonna go do stand-up but like with the Jackass gang was like really plus I was like still of newly so yeah like it was just done [ __ ] comfortable man you know like I just thought really like exposed and vulnerable to those guys here I could be here [ __ ] you know makin fun of me and picking on me but but when done came to watch me do stand-up he told me like thoroughly genuinely you know like hey dude [ __ ] like I enjoyed that man and I want you to [ __ ] keep doing that maybe because I you know he went out of his way to like vocalize his support to like be there like like him bro and anybody else but everybody else we're just jumped and looked for the opportunity to like [ __ ] pick on me yeah yeah I mean they loved me just as much but they're just be quicker to make me feel bad about it but then sometimes though we're showing love to you that same time right and and it's just like that's that's [ __ ] bitching like done Donna was like one of the earliest first people to like show me live and get behind me doing stand-up I love that Cheers then when [ __ ] the movie actually came out I go on Howard Stern and and I'm like yo Howard I've been doing stand-up I'm in the comedy club like [ __ ] every night and I'm having fun and like people are laughing dude it's rad I want to get a gig in New York City tonight I got me get a gig I just put it out there so I'm doing a gig at that that night I'm like what the [ __ ] you guys doing the comedy club you should be in the [ __ ] theater it's number one in the box office and my lawyer calls up and he's like with it I don't quite understand it but I'm getting calls from like all over the country like comedy clubs are calling asking to book you oh yeah and then even have an agent at that point so we we took a meeting with an agency and [ __ ] this guy walks on this this hilarious dude say his name Chris Smith he's just buying a quintessential agent and he walks into this meeting where we're gonna meet about potentially me joining as a client with this agency I am and he says hey I know that we don't represent you you know but I made a few phone calls and just said hey I don't represent this guy but hypothetically if I did do you think there's anything we could do with him and he says as you know like I once I reached out with these phone calls even though I don't represent you and it was all a hypothetical I did get these firm and concrete offers which are totally official in this like Manila [ __ ] which he plopped on the [ __ ] boardroom table and it was like these [ __ ] these contracts to learn all these different comedy clubs and like the money was staggering like I really I knew the [ __ ] local spots that I was ready for the comedy comes yeah we'll give you 20 bucks sure yeah no but then now like when yeah I'll just say that in that folder that folder represented more than $100,000 Wow I was live a hypothetical phone calls she just plopped a [ __ ] a Comedy Tour on the table and like I had at that time like in 20 minutes of material that was but now I'm going to be like the [ __ ] headliner on a [ __ ] national tour and I kind of like had to just learn as I go as I went yeah unfortunately I took it serious is [ __ ] like a really you know everywhere I went like and and and to this day now it's now weird we're into the 10th year of the trick Wow to this day every single person at every single show who would like to get a photo with me I do not go anywhere and I do not do [ __ ] [ __ ] until I take a photo with every single person that had every single show who wants what yeah and that's sort of like grassroots like whatever but I'm passionate about it I give a [ __ ] about it like I'd like just learned and evolved as I've gone and like ten years in man like I go around the circuit and I don't go back until I have a new show mm-hmm you know aren't gonna come back like that [ __ ] [ __ ] comedian where you buy the ticket the next year and I don't think because now with the comedy special yeah yeah but yeah you want to be a comedy factory not a comedy [ __ ] warehouse about a year and better year later and he was like where you been dude and I go dude since I saw you last I've done stand-up and I think it was like 10 or 11 different countries [ __ ] heavy air man and it's it's so crazy man because in one sense it's like an uphill battle because it's like oh steve-o's doing stand-up like rolled my eyes like [ __ ] you know he's not a stand-up you know so it's like an uphill battle in that regard but at the same time it's a I'm coming into it with like you know an established you know profile yes I got an audience that's interested in seeing me right it's just a question of like converting them you know and like you know to Pat myself on the back a little bit like I started that tour with jackass 3d in theaters still and I was not selling out my shows you know like there is like people are like I'm not going to the comedy club to see [ __ ] stuff like the movie was great but am I gonna spend my money and watching them stand up that's quite a good though you know you got to prove yourself you have to work hard yeah but it's just with such intense pride and gratitude better to be grateful than proud but but I can't deny on both because like I sit here right now you know a decade removed from any meaningful mainstream visibility you know like it's all been YouTube social media podcasts I've worked my ass off to stay like visible no but I haven't had that that big mega project that was on billboards you know it's been all just me [ __ ] hustling on my own steam for the last 10 years and I went from jackass 3d not being able to sell out [ __ ] so like 10 years in and I've got [ __ ] momentum I've got like wind at my back and like I can say that that wind at my back I created it and I've [ __ ] just I just hustle and in some kind of [ __ ] way and I'm really I love it and it's red that the platforms are out there to keep right out there and keep relevant doing stuff on your own - its I mean the way that I never learned how to edit properly until 2013 because I mean it's like when my original escape it is we're like vcr plugged into VCR right but hmm and in 20 2012 I had this show come out where people would sing karaoke while terrible should happen to them I was like funny that was the host and it was meaningful because it was like I was in the host position like like you know which sort of lent credibility to my comedy endeavor um but a lot of the things that happened on that show involved like animals like dunking people while they're singing into a tank full of snakes snakes water snakes and they were cold blooded and that ice cubes there's a lot of things that I was like and I'm just like this animal guy yeah and it was like when the show came out there was like some backlash where people are like what kind of [ __ ] animal rights guy are you they're doing this and they're just standing there oh I'm gonna giggling with the microphone and I was [ __ ] mortified because I agreed with the picture and in the social media age those people have such a voice that reaches you and I was just like I felt [ __ ] awful and so I told the network and I told the production company that I just couldn't have any involvement in the animal bits anymore and already the show was just recycling ideas I've run over an hour so you take away the animal didn't have nothing yeah so I got booted you know that's my take on if I got booted for any other reason I'm not aware of it right you know and I don't know I just found out that they replaced me as the host with mark McGrath who I think is the [ __ ] greatest guy Oh Sam so there's our killer karaoke I think that dude like as a humble [ __ ] great dude but there I was though out of the one job that I had I had the tour and I'm inside of this show and then it went away and right when the killer karaoke show went away I found out about the bad grandpa movie and it was like I thought because I found out about it from like a [ __ ] like an internet article mmm there wasn't any like hey we're making this it's called jackass it was more like entertainment websites were like hey you know Paramount Pictures just just registered these domain names for jackass for bad grandpa jackass for this like every variation of jackass for every variation of bad grandpa mm-hmm and it landed on the radar of the entertainment world and I'm like this is how I'm finding out oh my god this is a jackass for like what is it and I was just like and then I found out I guess we all did mmm like oh [ __ ] like they're making a jackass movie like with only Knoxville and we didn't like I didn't know what was I didn't know what it just felt like oh [ __ ] you just felt like not knowing what it was not having heard anything all of a sudden it's like oh [ __ ] I just find out that Knoxville like Timberlake does now I'm Jackson and it was it was Darin hurt and I mean this is hardly an indictment on Knoxville and like [ __ ] it you know I'm just saying from my own little I just lost my [ __ ] TV gig and found out there's a jackass movie that I'm not in and like you know I got my tour you know and it's like you know still back then it was still pretty new and it felt like I was [ __ ] you know swimming upstream with my shirt or yeah like if it became a dark ass [ __ ] time for me I mean that was where I got super into surfing because like it was it was just like just my [ __ ] head was just too busy with [ __ ] terror and stress yeah yeah like I'm [ __ ] done I'm done right you know I like nobody [ __ ] and I just went surfing helped just because it was like I'm just gonna worry about this wave and it's compatible that wait it's a one thing said yeah there's just something about that kept me present I'm just gonna [ __ ] paddle for the wave and I'm gonna keep fit because I'm like getting old now so I really just latched on to surfing and I started traveling around and going on these trips where I was just like trying to get my mind yeah you know I ended up like I like did I was sober but I was acting out sexually like crazy and and ended up this guy asked me to take a meeting he managed his talent he wanted to take me on as a client and I'm like all right I got hear him out and he says dude it's all about the digital space you got to have a YouTube channel you gotta have a podcast he's like it's gonna be great like we'll do this and I'll be meet your manager and I'm thinking this guy actually just said I that he recommends that I like produce YouTube videos produce podcasts I do it I gave him 10% of all mature and all this stuff that he's suggesting that I do on my own and I just remember walking out of his office and thinking like [ __ ] man like that said it was it was like I was in this dark place to begin with and I thought man like the idea it was just more of a feeling that the idea of having gone from these number-one like box-office [ __ ] successful movies on the big screen it just felt like such a demotion to go from that now like I'm bigger uploading yeah YouTube videos like it was it just seems like a depressing thanks sure no imagine but it was in my head and then this buddy of mine who's so dear of a friend and when I got sober he was the one guy that it was tough like I had to like cut him out okay there's people here so I would just fall away because you're no fun anymore when you're sober okay but like you got to look at your relationships and ask yourself does drive a legitimate reason to stay connected to this person with the Jackass guys of course you know but this one did everything we did revolved around getting loaded okay and and and when and that we did work together but it was always just toxic working loaded and then this dude shortly after I had that meeting with the manager the guy reaches out to me and he says hey dude I didn't want to [ __ ] I wanted to wait to contact you so it wasn't just like a you know like something that wasn't serious but I waited until now to tell you that I've been sober for six months and I was like no way I got my bro back sick and he says and I'm [ __ ] killing it dude I'm doing I'm [ __ ] producing [ __ ] YouTube content for all kinds of like companies and all kinds of [ __ ] dude you got to get into YouTube and I just had that put in my ear and I'm gonna [ __ ] man because I was trying to pitch the stuff and nobody [ __ ] cared and I was just like banging my head against the wall and everything professionally was just turning up dark yeah and this guy Chuck Landers weighing my bro and he taught me how to edit he helped me he actually went out and filmed and taught me how to edit my very first youtube videos and I started that YouTube channel in 2013 sick that was the first time I learned how to edit and that was when I took I grabbed the hold of the reins of my career right that that that's changed everything it brought about a [ __ ] rebirth love of me I was no longer waiting for people to approve of my idea and order my idea greenlight my [ __ ] you know I was not beholden to anybody [ __ ] hiring me for anything and I had like I just and and and I didn't even [ __ ] care I needed two sisters stay sane because I was in such like an outlet I just [ __ ] grabbed onto that [ __ ] camera I just got it and I just [ __ ] went for it you know and out and then all of a sudden like touring I started touring with somebody I had been up to that point just by myself dark hotel rooms alarm like you know and I did some almost amazing I could stay sober going in just alone everyone to play some referees drinking and I ended up with the sober I actually went the bad grandpa movie came out I was in this [ __ ] sexual sobriety like intensive outpatient therapy program because I was like doing my number one thing was like I got a stop [ __ ] you know I'm clearly [ __ ] I've turned to like actives what I told you I take photos with every single person at every single show like in the early days that meet-and-greet photo line was a glorified audition there was almost becoming your addiction yes and I was always kind of inclined to you know act out sexually anyway and so it was just like now I'm in this position where I'm like approaching 40 and I'm like dude hot like how cool is it like to imagine like just hooking up with random chicks forever you know that gets that starts looking pretty sad and [ __ ] up and depressing in of itself sure yeah so like I started thinking to myself like if I'm really gonna be happy in the long run I need to learn how to have like a healthy relationship you know this is not happiness right it's not so I promised myself you know I'm not gonna fool around with random chicks anymore I could not keep that promise really [ __ ] life to me ideas Kevin and I ended up like getting into therapy and I ended up like getting into like this whole like sex sexual sobriety program and yeah now I've got some sober in that program for [ __ ] multiple years I got I'm engaged to be married you're engaged yeah congratulate me I don't know like that I wouldn't there was the acting out in the road which was just like alright then there's also like this like ghosting chicks thing I was like really pour on the charm and then I'd hook up with them and then I would not call him back like I don't want and like dude that to treat some in that way is not only not to treat them the way I want to be treated but dude I have like [ __ ] paralyzing fear of rejection and abandonment and so that's actually that was me treating people specifically the way I feared being treated the lowest yeah and that's his bad [ __ ] karma dude that's not how you [ __ ] that's not how the universe were No and so like yeah I'm really grateful that uh you know that I applied to relationships like the same like seriousness and the same like you know absolutely like importance of integrity you know as it relates to that and I was in that I was in that program I even even scheduled it such that that I was in the sex addict [ __ ] treatment program specifically when the bad grandpa movie Pro was because the idea of gone to that red carpet because I can in a pro crash well congratulations on the engagement and it's 10:34 oh okay well listen I want it first of all I want to I can't you just came out with the video part it's weird it's a documentary I just drew my skateboarding career go check it out it's on your YouTube channel and so go subscribe to his YouTube channel because I thoroughly enjoy what you do and you sit around and you talk and you show clips of different things and you put a little perspective on some jackass stuff and just your life it's really cool I appreciate it here's something that this has been considerably over two hours in duration oh man people wanted five hours of the people who are still watching this far if you are one of those people and you have watched this entire podcast please let me know by tweeting at me I'm sure you'll get a lot of tweets I love to know that like it's you know that there's actually Putin I can't imagine but you know way yes Steve oh it's funny though because when we first started this show in podcasting we would just kind of wrap it up after 30 minutes then it got a little longer and then it got a little longer and every comment we get is like I wish this was longer I wishes well Mike Vallely five hour episode I wish this was longer so we crazy do we've just kind of just been like hey we're gonna lose let it how ever long it goes know they can always make it when they're driving they could turn it off with her hug hit pause to get back into the beautiful baby boy yes the reason why was hang on to the skate video for so long was because I wanted it to you know that get the skateboard if I can straight into the Tony Hawk deal I love it bro yeah hey can we give you some before we go before can we give you some nine Clips stuff to take home a mug maybe a shirt Kelly will you grab oh yeah we got candles we got all kinds of stuff medium man this is amazing bro thank you so much for stock I can't wait for the new video part to come out I know yeah let's get back that's good this emotion that part of me thinks that it was great to tell the story but now just like heavier on the skating I was skating up at the end tanida's Park like last week and you know it was fresh in my mind like skateboard and weeds out the quitters and I'm trying to do this [ __ ] just just a all he knows Manuel along this big long tall ledge mm-hm and I'm blue top of the bank it was not the one in the middle of everything Oh gotcha yeah and I just find it I was like no I can't [ __ ] quit you know I like and the Sun was like beaming when I started and it was just setting and I got it got it yeah it was trying she wasn't like thank you certainly wasn't the cleanest yeah but you did it that you know that's what I'm first of all Stevo appreciate that so much for coming by dude this is a switch flipped manual mug that's me on the courthouse stage made a little mug out of it well Lance Mountain drew that for me he drew a flipbook Lance mountain I turned it into a put on the iPad listen here's some 9 Club stickers hopefully you can get this into the Jackass for the movie shirt or something if they have a skateboard thing 9 club new era beanie I don't know if your beanie guy but we got we got candles for your lady here you go there's a nice 9 club candle for you and a shirt shirt dude Steve oh dude much success can't wait for this jackass for movie to come out man 3 there was no [ __ ] announcement dude like I'm pretty sure that the first one like wasn't even on record until it had all been shot and nobody died oh wow I don't know I mean maybe I got that all wrong but like but no teams but dude there was never a [ __ ] announcement like that through me saw yeah and I was like what what's happening drip all over him everyone everybody knows we're gonna do it like that's a weird now your pressure I know is it more pressure different pressure for me but it's like we haven't gotten away with it yeah that's then we were talking about when you're watching the movie you know I'm really survived yeah [Applause] [Music]

Channel: The Nine Club

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Id: Jp7VCqNGSx4

Length: 151min 53sec (9113 seconds)

Published: Mon Mar 23 2020

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[u/MrTeapott]

You got a timecode for when he talks Jackass 4?

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I hope they call it Jackass 4ever: We're not Dunn yet

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Is it a decent discussion or just a minute or so?