- Hello and welcome back to
some crazy "Reddit Stories." I'm Shayne, and today
I'm joined by Courtney, and visiting us, our former
coworker, Sarah Whittle is here. - Hello. - Woohoo! - Honey, I'm home! - Welcome back. - Thank you. - [Shayne] Yeah. - You voice cracked at
the beginning of that. - [Shayne] A little tiny bit. - Do we need to take that again? - Okay, you're no longer in charge, okay? - You sounded like you were gonna cry. - He is. - And welcome back to "Reddit Stories." I'm Shayne. - No, I'm very excited to be back. You guys know I love visiting you guys. And can you believe it's
almost been three years since I left? - Whoa. - Three whole years. Soon I can't visit back 'cause no one will know
who the (beep) I am. (everyone laughs) - [Courtney] Oh my gosh. - Who? Who are you? - Aw. - Wow. Well, in honor of you being
here, we're doing work drama. - Oh. - All this is gonna be about work. Work bullshit. - Water cooler tea. - Here we go. "Am I the asshole for
pretending to get fired "when customers get a temper with me?" (Courtney laughs) Pretty awesome. - Okay. - Okay, here we go. "I am a high schooler with a
weekend job at a coffee shop. "My coworkers who work weekends
are James, the owner's son. "He goes to my school. "He's a shift manager, but
it's not a real formal thing. "He's a friendly guy. "Danielle, a college student "who sometimes works weekends too. "So sometimes customers will come in "and just be angry
about such little stuff. "Like, literally blowing up about nothing. "I don't know if they're
in a bad mood already "and looking for someone
to take it out on or what, "but it's a lot. "Like, how sad do you have
to be to be a grown ass man "taking your anger out on a
high school and college kids. "So James and I were joking "about having a little fun with them "and hopefully getting them off our backs. "So one day I was at work and
some guy was having a temper "about how we don't make
the coffee hot enough, "which I couldn't do a thing about "because I gave it to him
right outta the machine. "So James came in, "and I was like, 'Sir,
is there a problem here?' "And the guy started ranting at him too. "So he was just like,
'OP, this is unacceptable. "'You're fired.' "I started acting really sad, "like, 'No, please don't fire me. "'My family needs the money. "'I need this job, please.' "And he played up being a hard ass, "telling me to take
off my apron and leave. "The angry guy started to backtrack like, "'It isn't that big of a deal. "'You don't need to fire her over it. "'I didn't mean it.' "And James was like, "'No, we pride ourselves on
the best customer service.' "Of course, after all that
drama, I still had my job. "We were just acting, and
we've done it a couple times. "Whenever a customer will
lose their temper at Danielle "or I, James will storm in and fire us. "And almost every time the person "who had come in angry will apologize "and say they didn't mean it. "It's kind of satisfying making
people realize their actions "might actually have consequences. "Anyway, I was telling my
friends from school about this "and a few of them thought
it was a mean prank "to let someone go away
thinking they'd gotten someone "who desperately needs the money fired. "Am I the asshole for this joke?" - Hmm.
- Hmm. First of all, it's a little funny. It's funny. - I think it's really funny. - I think it's super funny. - I think they could take it up further. - I think if they can pull the acting off, 'cause I think if I were
to do it in my real life, I wouldn't be able to keep
a straight face of like, "No, please. "I need this job." So the fact that the
acting is convincing enough to make these customers feel
bad for being kind of a Karen. - Yeah. - I think this is like good chaos. This is good chaos.
- Oh, yeah. Because what are people
expecting or hoping for when they come in with
that energy of like, "My coffee's not hot enough." Because like a lot of like,
like if this was a Karen, it's like it's a superiority thing, and you think like getting someone fired is like their dream, but- - And maybe it's a good
lesson for them to learn. Like, little complainy things. Like, make your coffee at home if you're really gonna be
that fricking particular, Garrett Palm. Like, if you're gonna- (everyone laughs) - Throwing shade at Garrett? - I'm just kidding. But like he's a very nice
person I'm sure at coffee shops. But if you're gonna be that
particular, make it at home. - [Shayne] Right. - Or just like deal with it. Also like coffee hot, like McDonald's got
sued for that stuff, so, also coffee's not that
good like super hot. I'm an iced coffee girl. - Same. - Yeah. No. - Yeah. I wonder like what happens if one of those customers
comes back another weekend- - And they're still there. - But maybe they feel good
about it 'cause they're like, "Oh yay. "Like, the person didn't get fired." - And they're like, "Wait. "Oh right, I forgot to fire him. "You're fired again!" (everyone laughs) - I also think when you
see young people working, like clearly high school, college, like sometimes this is like a side gig. Most of the time it's a side gig to either have like extra money
or help at home or whatever. Like, you're really gonna
come in being like a Karen over like, this is not like
a corporate environment where it's like we strive for excellence or like anything like that. It's a coffee shop. Like, chill the (beep) out. - Yeah, I'm trying to see the validity in saying that OP's an asshole for this. I don't think he's an asshole. - No, I don't think so either. - Or she. I don't think they're an asshole. - They're just saying like,
"Oh, it's a mean prank." It's like, well... - Yeah, 'cause it's opposed Karen. - Don't be mean to the- - The Karen can be mean? But we can't be mean? - That's true. I also think it's really funny. - I think it's really funny.
- It is funny. I really wish I could see that scene.
- I would love to see a performance. - Yes. - The verdict was not the asshole. Yeah, I mean, for sure. "Not the asshole. "Customers can be (beep) dicks. "Usually people are pretty
respectful and reasonable "even when they have a legit complaint, "but every now and then
there's the one guy or gal "that comes in and just
can't be made happy. "They're the worst." Someone else said, "Not the asshole. "Fun fact, Harrods actually
hires people for this. "If a customer is upset in the store, "the manager will call back
the offender and fire them "in front of the customer to satiate them. "Then the guy whose job it is to be fired "just goes back to the back room "and waits for another
customer to get angry "so he can be fired again. "I think it's even better
that you're using it "to make people think
twice about being a-holes "in the store." - Wait, they have in-house
actors at Harrods? - In-house like people that get fired. (Sarah laughs) - I love it. - How do you write that on a resume? - I actually want that job. - [Sarah] That's amazing. - It says here you've
been fired 5,000 times? - Like, I didn't know we
had a coffee shop theater. Like, wow.
- Yeah, this is so good. - Yeah. Someone said, "Everyone sucks here. "The customers are obviously assholes "for being assholes for no reason. "Yes, you are a little bit of an asshole. "Is it justified? Absolutely. "Are you still an asshole? Yes. "Unfortunately, in a
customer service role, "you are always going to
have to deal with people "who are angry over absolutely nothing. "It's part of the job. "Is it fair? No. "In a perfect world, those
customers would not exist. "But we live in a reality
that is part of the reality, "especially for that job." - Eh. That's kind of giving the
customer's always right vibes. - Yeah, I'm like, you're not
actually doing anything wrong to the customer. You're technically giving into
what we would assume is like, what do you want? - Right. - And I know this is
not a hot take at all, but like you know how some countries have like mandatory military service. I think like mandatory
customer service jobs would be a thing, like it's
good character building. - For real. - You know, I've worked in retail stores. That was whole character building. I've worked in so many
restaurants, character building. But then it's like you really
understand like Karens. - Totally. - You get a grip. Get a grip here. - Yeah, you had to deal with
a lot of nightmare customers. - Yeah, yeah. And like one time I worked
at a beer garden in Phoenix, and it was mostly a beer garden, and the kitchen was like probably smaller than like the one toilet bathroom here. - Wow. - Like, that's how big the kitchen was 'cause it was just like sausage and fries. And so when the whole
restaurant was filled with like 50 tables of
people wanting food, like obviously the one cook
in that tiny ass kitchen was like shelling out all that food. And I remember one
customer, he ordered a beer, I gave him the beer, and the food wasn't coming
out in like 20, 30 minutes because the whole restaurant was full. And I went to his table. I was like, "So sorry for the delay. "Like, it's coming soon." And he goes, "My beer is warm." And I was like, "Yeah, 'cause it's been sitting
there for like 20 minutes. "You can chug it right now." And he was like, "No,
I'm waiting for my food." - Okay. What? - He wants to- - You're at a beer garden, sir. Like (groans) And then one time at
an Italian restaurant, I forgot to give like
the people the appetizer or something like that. It was like my very first serving job. And so at the end of the meal,
I was like, "I'm so sorry." And I didn't know you could comp. I was like 16 or something. So I was like, "I'm so sorry. "Like, here are the rolls to go. "You can take 'em." And he's like, "We don't
want them anymore." They never reminded me either
that these were like late. And then on the tip receipt, he put like "rolls" on the tip line. - I don't understand it. - So it was just like, you know, I was just like 16 years old,
and they were being so mean. - Oh yeah. The weight of the world is on
teenagers at their first jobs. (Sarah laughs) - Yeah. - Yeah, I worked at a play
place as my first job. And it was a lot of rich mean moms. - Oh boy. - Yeah, so, you know. - [Shayne] Rough. - Danger zone. - All right, moving on. Here we go. This comes from Malicious Compliance. - [Sarah] Oh. - "Cameras have to be on no matter what. "Fine by me, don't mind the pump." - Is this a poetry thing? (crew laughs) - [Shayne] Maybe. (Sarah laughs) "I'm a project manager and data scientist. "I manage lots of different
public health related projects. "There is one project in particular "that includes a really demanding team "from a federal government department. "I recently returned back to
work from maternity leave. "I work in my office three days a week. "On those days, "I have to pump breast
milk at regular intervals "for my baby. "Luckily I have my own private office "and can usually just keep on working, "emails, reports, et cetera, while I pump. "I have a hands-free wearable
pump, which is convenient "but still definitely
obvious if I am wearing it. "It pokes out about my shirt
and is not exactly silent. "Recently we have a Zoom call scheduled "during one of the times I needed to pump. "Instead of missing the meeting, "I figured I would just keep my camera off "so I could wear my pump and
still participate and listen. "Heck, I was even in my office
and not working from home. "I felt like I was being a
pretty committed employee. "Meeting starts, and a few
people have their cameras off. "The lead makes the announcement, "'I just wanna remind
everyone that our expectation "'is that you'll have your cameras on "'because this is not a virtual meeting. "'It is a simulated in-person meeting.' "Whatever that means. "I sent a quick private message "to explain I was paying
attention but pumping. "No response to me, just instead a, "'Again, the expectation is
that all cameras will be on.' "So fine. "I turned my camera on for this
meeting for about 20 people. "The camera isn't aimed at my chest, "but certainly the top of
the pump is clearly visible. "I unmuted myself so you could
also clearly hear the pump." - Oh my goodness. - "And just said, 'Thank
you for your patience. "'I was adjusting my breast pump.' "The meeting continued awkwardly "with several other team managers
letting me know privately "it was fine to turn my camera off. "But at that point, "there really was no
point in turning it off." - [Courtney] Dang. - "At the most recent
meeting, the announcement was, "'Please turn on your cameras "'if you are comfortable doing so.'" - Aha! - Well. - I do miss virtual meetings, like constant virtual meetings. We had so many over the
course of the pandemic, and they were so silly sometimes. - Yeah. - I remember we had like our Christmas- - Our Christmas party, like
our virtual Christmas party for 2020 is like the,
it's the funniest thing. - It was so insane. - Yeah, like Santa joined. - Yeah, we got a Santa impersonator. - Oh my god, that's right. - Remember how hard Brittany went? Like, Brittany was like (laughs) - Didn't someone like
ask if he believed in God or something? (Shayne laughs) - We started asking Santa crazy shit. - Brittany asked, "If Santa gives gifts "to all the children of the world, "why do the poor children
get worse gifts?" - Oh my god. I knew it was some (beep) up- - And the Santa gave
like a generic answer, and I was like, "This is brutal." But then also we FaceTimed
with a sheep in England. - Yeah, we got a sheep - That had like a crazy name
like Daisy or something. - Yeah, that's a crazy name. - It was pretty cool. - And then we did Secret
Santa over the Zoom call too. So everyone unwrapped their gifts. - Yeah, we did our best. - We really did. - And not a single breast pump in sight. - No breast pump in sight. - I will admit now that years have passed, there were definitely plenty of times where I was in a meeting,
my camera was off, and I would just be doing
shit in my apartment. I would just have it there. I'd be listening. But I'm like, "I'm not
speaking in this meeting, "so I'm just gonna be, I'm
doing dishes and stuff." - I don't like the like
mandated be on camera thing. - No, that's weird. - I think that's super weird. However, I'm a vibes person,
so like during the pandemic and then even with my like new job, I would like make a point
to like be on camera, just to like give the vibe of like, hey, let's like be engaged
and present if we can be here, especially like as a leader in the group. But I think like the peer
pressure thing is too much. I think like this mom in
particular, not an asshole, I think in my opinion, 'cause it's a little bit
of like, what is it like... Kinda like breaking the rules
but to make a very good point. - Yeah, what was the title? It was malicious compliance, right? - It was malicious compliance. - Exactly, yeah. So I think it's like, you made your point, but like ooh, uncomfortable
for everyone involved. I feel uncomfortable
for everyone involved, except for the asshole that was saying you have to be on camera. - Right. Just a weird policy. - Yeah. - They had to learn the
hard way it sounded like, 'cause she tried to
let them know that she- - She's like, "Hey, I'm
in this situation here." - Yeah, they didn't understand. And so- - What's the point? Like, what are you winning by like forcing these
people to be on camera? - It's just a control thing probably. - Yeah, exactly. It's a control thing. Whereas I think it's like if you're having remote calls still, being on camera is like to me I think is more of like a vibe thing. And if you can do it, you can do it. If you can't, you can't. That's okay. - True. - Right. Some comments here. "This is not a virtual meeting. "It is a simulated in-person meeting. "My head hurts "trying to figure this out."
- I hate that. - Someone else said, "I work at a university, and
all of the faculty complain "that their students don't
turn on their cameras, "and then we have a department meeting "and none of those (beep)
turn their cameras on." - I am in person simulating, - Simulating person meeting. - Good evening. - Guys, we're simulating a
voice call meeting right now. - That's the vibe. - How's everyone doing? - Simulating a chat. - How are we today? (everyone laughs) Lastly, someone said, "I read a similar story about
a student undergoing chemo "who was told they had
to have their camera on. "They had also privately
messaged the professor "to ask for a dispensation explaining why. "No response. "Just a group message, "'Cameras on or you'll
be marked as failing.' "Okay, then camera on, "cue shocked Pikachu
face from the professor "who insisted on camera being on. "People are just ugh." - People are just ugh. - I think it's like those,
you know those people, like those professors, those bosses who just like they wanna have that like little bit of control,
and it's like super toxic. It's like this is
obviously a very easy ask, turn your camera on, but like
if you put human into it, if you put empathy into it, like it's really just
them trying to control, and that's when it gets like really icky. - Yeah, and I think a lot
of 'em have this element of distrust for their employees. - [Courtney] Yeah. - Where they're like,
"She's probably lying, "so no, you gotta have it on." And it's like, "Oh shit,
you weren't lying to me." - [Courtney] Yeah. - It's like, well maybe
just trust 'em in the first. - Exactly. I'm the type of person who's like what you give is
what you get in the universe. So it's like if you're
giving out distrusting vibes, like then you're not
gonna have the respect and the trust back. - Right. I agree. - Kudos to her for deciding to keep it on despite being told that
she could turn it back off. - I mean, shout out to moms. Like, that shit takes balls. - Oh yeah. - Like, that is like so vulnerable. That's supposed to be
a private health thing. Like, moms go back to work so early while they're still making milk. - [Shayne] Yeah. - (beep) badass. Like, every mom's a (beep) badass. And this mom's a badass. - Definitely. - And she's a scientist. - What the hell?
- And a scientist. - Smart, hot, and pumping? Let's (beep) go. - Smart, hot, and pumping. - Pretty cool. (Sarah laughs) All right, next story. "Am I the asshole "if I don't want my husband
shadowing me at work?" Okay. This is recent. This is from like a couple days ago. (Sarah laughs) - Wow. - "This is going to sound
complicated, so stick with me. "My husband, who's 44, and I, 39, "have been married for 20 years, "but the last few years
have been incredibly rough "due to multiple issues "such as our sons both going
through major health issues. "One issue is that I feel
like he's smothering me. "And when I tried to explain that to him, "he became furious and started
telling me how awful I am." - Oh. - "Our entire lives together "we have worked together
the majority of the time. "Almost always. "That means separate departments
and little interaction. "When I say this, I don't
mean all in one place. "I mean, I started working
at a major retail store, "and a few months later he started there." - Oh. - "I started my degree, "and the next semester he
started his identical to mine. "This went through two degrees. "I am now in grad school, and sure enough, "he's asking me to start the process "of going to get him enrolled. "When I gained my bachelor's "and began working at a museum career, "he began volunteering
there on his days off, "but would take over
tours and conversations. "When I told him to stop, "he blew up and said I'd embarrassed him. "When I took a second job at a factory, "he also wanted to work at the factory. "I quit the factory as planned last month "because I just wanted
extra Christmas money. "He got mad because he
said I abandoned him there. "He's since quit and gone
back to the retail job. "But all he does is complain. "The manager at the
factory and I still talk, "and she said they'd
accept me back anytime, "but pretty much said
they don't want him back. "I am still working at the museum "and have started substitute
teaching a couple days a week. "I love it. "Now he wants me to help
him get started subbing, "and I'm trying to avoid it. "He asked if he could shadow me one day, "and I told him no due to security. "He messaged the principal
and got permission easily "and was pissed that I hadn't even asked. "I am trying to avoid it. "And he's saying I'm an a-hole
for not taking him with me. "Is he right?" Oh, what the (beep) is going on here? - This is brutal. - I've never heard of
anything like this before. - I mean, wow. - Where he just literally
follows her to every job and gets her job also. - It's been happening for 20 years. - They've been married 20 years. - That's so interesting. I don't think she's the asshole at all. Like, what the hell is he doing? - No, I mean, she's
expressing her boundaries. - But this, I'm, that's... - It's like definitely giving
like younger brother energy. Like, it's like if you
had like a younger sibling that like when growing up when you're like seven, eight, nine like- - Yeah, they just- - My little brother would
like copy everything I did. - Right. - And that's like, you know, at that age you're trying
to like define yourself and, you know, find yourself, and you don't want this
like little kid copying you. But now that they're like in
their 40s, married 20 years, like, oof, that's like, that's tough. And I think it's like, you know, and maybe it's like just
different attachment styles, but like I've been married
for five years now, and it's very important
to have two separate lives outside of the marriage because it's like you're still
two very different people and like I think that's
like always a tough thing is like when you're married you feel like, oh, we have to do everything together. We're building this life together, right? This like big thing together. But like ultimately
it's two separate people that need to find their own happiness within the umbrella of marriage. And so for me, if I had to
like work with the person, eat with the person,
sleep with the person, then vacation with the person,
then weekend with the person, like, for some people that might work, but like for my marriage,
that wouldn't work because I still have
things I wanna do on my own and like, you know, you
need a little time apart. Like, too much time with
one person, that's a lot. - And it's not even just like
they're in the same place. It's like, "I started my degree, "and the next semester he
started his identical to mine." Like, it's like what
does he want out of life? - I can't help but like feel like it comes from a controlling place. - That's what I was gonna say, but I don't have no psychology
degree from ASU online, but- - Doesn't do anything. - But it really does. It feels like because, to get to the point where
OP is taking museum tours, giving tours, and him going
there and like taking over, and then for her to fully
within her right express that she doesn't want him to do that and him blowing up at her. - Or like emailing the principal when she's like substitute teaching. - Going behind her back. - That is controlling behavior. - So rude, yeah. It's super controlling. - No, it's disrespectful to her. It's like he doesn't want
her to have her own life. - Yeah, and I can understand like, she feels like the asshole
because she's like, "Ugh, I like kind of want like
a distance from my husband." I think that's like not naturally what you think you should think. But like it's just feeling very clingy. - Yeah, I had a friend who was in a really tough relationship, and she had like basically a full-time job at a retail store, and it got to the point where this partner
would drive her to work, wait for her at that
mall, and take her home. Like, just needed to be around and aware of her at all times. And it was really scary. - It probably comes out
of insecurity, right? But it's very much like, you know, sometimes when you hold onto
something tighter it runs away. Like cats. Like, you know- - Yeah. - You're trying to be
like, "Cat, I love you." And it's like, "I wanna
get the (beep) outta here." So like you gotta let the cat come to you and like that kind of thing. So I think this might be a situation where he might be thinking like, "No, I need to be in
every part of her life "because we're married." But it's actually like creating
more tension and distance. - Yeah, it's interesting too, they have like no official
agreement on this. It's just something he's done forever. - Yeah, and he's gotten comfortable with that envelope being
pushed over 20 years. Like, and it sounds like she's over time a little bit tried to set a boundary and he's just exploded at her, which that's what a person
will do if they're narcissistic or if they have any kind
of issues like that. They will make it a horrible experience when you try and set your boundary so that you'll never try
and set a boundary again. And like it can be really tough. And for that to be going on for 20 years and she just like doesn't
know what to do anymore, it sounds like it's getting
to a wild level already. - Yeah, for sure. - Well, the verdict was not the asshole. Some comments. "You don't need to ask him
to go to therapy with you. "Just start going yourself
and he will follow you "and volunteer to go-
- Funny! - "Like he has done with everything else." - Hell yeah.
- Yep. - That's very true. - That's a very good piece of advice. - I just, yeah, I don't know. - That's messy. - These are big things. Like, he's willing to work anywhere. - This is work and
personal drama all in one. - Yeah, that's everything. - This is a full Sunday. - All of it. Okay. Next story here. "Am I the asshole for telling
this college guy's mom "that her coming into his
interview cost him the job?" - Oh. He brought his mom to the interview? - Mommy says I can do this job. - Here's my recommendation. Yes, he's a very sweet boy. (Sarah laughs) And he's good at everything. You know, when he was in second grade, he drew the most incredible
picture of a horse. - He started walking at 10 months. That's like a couple months
before all the other kids. - He can ride a bike. Oh, and you should hear him sing. Sing, Mikey. (everyone laughs) Mom, stop. God, she's the worst. "I am a hiring manager at a tech company, "and I was hiring for summer internships "a little while ago." - Oh. - "We had a guy about
19 years old applying "for a summer internship
between his freshman "and sophomore years of college. "It was a virtual interview
over Zoom because of COVID. "A minute or two in when
I was introducing myself, "his mom came in and introduced herself "and started talking about
her son's work ethic. "I thought it was a little strange. "I said something polite about
wanting to hear from him. "She just didn't get the hint "and kept coming into the camera
frame during the interview "and interrupting her son
to answer questions for him. "I asked a few technical questions, "which he seemed to answer well, "and then cut the interview fairly short. "I thought that that was
all over and done with "until I'd gotten an email
from a woman a month later "asking about her son's application. "She seemed offended he
hadn't gotten an acceptance "or rejection. "It bothered me. "I felt bad for the kid, honestly. "Way back when I was a teenager, "my mom used to pull the same shit. "But luckily she only
did that when I was 15 "and working for a day camp, "not when I was an adult
applying for engineering jobs. "But I felt like this poor kid "was getting his chances ruined "because his mom wasn't
giving him the chance "to apply on his own. "I sent an email back
saying I was not at liberty "to send information about an application "to anyone but the applicant. "I also asked HR to
send an email to the kid "saying sorry, but we were
not making him an offer. "It is something we usually do, "but his rejection email must have slipped "through the cracks with
all the COVID craziness. "Anyway, after we sent that, "I got a phone call from his mom." (Courtney gasps) "She had a forwarded copy of the email, "and she was demanding answers. "I said that I could not
comment on the guy's performance "in the interview with her
as she was not the applicant. "If he wanted to reach out to me, "I was happy to give him some feedback. "However, I could say that
regardless of his performance, "her presence in the interview took him "out of the consideration
for the position. "We were looking for an independent "and self-driven person for the position. "And for that reason, "it is important to see an
applicant speak for themselves, "follow up themselves, et cetera. "I also said that as a piece of advice, "every hiring manager
I've met in my career "who sees someone other than the applicant "answering questions during an interview, "following up on the
applicant's behalf, et cetera, "would also put their resume
in the do not hire pile. "Since while the applicant
may be skilled and motivated, "they need the ability "to demonstrate those traits themselves. "She (beep) blew up at me over that, "kind of cussing me out to
the point where I hung up. "Am I the asshole for how I handled this? "Maybe I should have kept
my mouth shut way earlier." No, I mean, I don't think
he's the asshole for that. - No.
- No. I'm actually surprised that
like he replied to the mom. - I know. - The way I would've like deleted that. - He was actually being kind. I wish there was a way for him
to say that stuff to the son. - It's like the scene in "Stepbrothers" when they're like both
interviewing the position. - Yes! Oh my god. I'm sure he would've preferred that. - Yeah. - That's gotta be so tough
to be in that son's position because like imagine,
well, like, I don't know. It just seems like he's living at home, can't get any privacy. This manager, OP, did that like very well and very technically explained why that wasn't the way to do it. And I applaud them. - Yeah, I think OP went above and beyond. - Oh, absolutely. - Maybe there's a lesson
there to learn of, you know, not all good deeds go
unpunished type of thing. So I think this person was like, "Yeah, I really wanna like help
the guy and give feedback." But like I think we've all experienced like a unselfaware mom. - Yeah.
- Yeah. - And like, this is exactly
what this situation sounds like. - Yeah, not worth his energy. - This poor kid. - Yeah, I feel for the kid. - His mom is just like
not giving him a break. - [Sarah] Yeah. - What I hope this guy does in the, like, if for some reason this ever happens again is during the interview be like, "I'm sorry, nobody else is allowed "to answer these questions." - Ah, I see, I see, I see. - Like, "I'm sorry, this is a job." It's no different than if you were in a job interview in person and someone else walked
into the job interview, you'd be like, "I'm sorry, this applicant
has to be by themselves." - [Sarah] Yeah, yeah, yeah. - He's 19. - Yeah, rough for the kid. - I'm sure the kid's upset about it too. - [Sarah] Probably so embarrassed. - But doesn't- - I think it's like a tough age because yeah, he's super young and trying to get his
own footing in his life, but he is still living
at home with his mom, and his mom is clearly very controlling, and like that's not normal
behavior in any sense. Not healthy behavior as well.
- No. - To be emailing on an adult. This guy's an adult man. - But he is being treated like a kid. And like there's that
self-fulfilling prophecy of like, when you treat someone that way, like you're his parent and
you're treating him that way. But don't you want him to
grow up and be an adult, but you're treating him like a kid. - Push him outta the nest at
some point and let him fly. - Like, respect him. - Yes, exactly. - And be like, "Oh yeah, you're gonna
go kill that interview. "I don't need to be in there." - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - But she's not doing that, and that's gonna make him feel insecure. I'd feel so insecure. - Like, do you think that
mom shows up on dates too? Like, he's out on dates, and she's like- - "Why won't you date my Timmy?" - "My son is so sexy." And you're like, "What the (beep) "What the (beep) dude?"
- Oh Jesus. - Like, what the hell? - Yeah. - Try to move out if you can get a job. - Yeah. Oh. - I mean, just let him get a job. - Yeah, just let him alone. - It's not even about moving out. Just like let him live his life. - And it's not even like
for like an ice cream shop. It's an engineering job. - I know. And they asked him technical
questions, and he knew 'em. He's clearly capable. - Sucks. - The verdict was not the asshole. One of the comments
here, "Not the asshole. "It's probably better for the
kid you told her directly, "seeing as she clearly
does not respect him enough "to believe him if he
disclosed she cost him the job. "She snapped at you because
you gave her feedback "that painted her in a poor light, "and she thought she did
her son a wonderful favor. "You're probably the
first person in a while "to stand up to her." Someone else said, "Not the asshole. "Helicopter mom needed
to be put in her place. "Hopefully she learns. "Sadly, while I think it's
shitty someone gets put "in the do not hire pile
for something like that, "I can completely understand why. "Hopefully the young
man can solve that issue "and get hired somewhere." Lastly, someone said,
"Bruh, not the asshole. "I feel so bad for that poor guy. "Not for the job per se,
but for his controlling mom. "But you just did your job, and
she deserved the cold shower "and a reasonable dose of humility." I just don't know if she's gonna learn. - I don't know if she sounds like a mom that's like gotten feedback. - I don't think she's
ever gonna change though is my just like- - And if this was like, they said it was during COVID time, right? So it's like if she's
interrupting the interview, she's gonna be interrupting
every meeting going forward. - That's true. - Oh my god. - You're hiring her. - Yeah, you really are. - That's awful. - Who knows? Like, this manager
giving her that feedback that she may or may not have
received, made her blow up. Odds are he heard that phone call, seems like they're near
each other quite a bit. But like hopefully that
could have been some kind of catalyst between the mom and the son to like change the rhythm of things. - All right, moving on. "Am I the asshole for telling
someone that his achievement "just meant that he had rich parents?" - Oh no. - Uh-oh. - Here we go. "I, a 23-year-old man have
been with my current company "for a year now. "Recently a new guy, Jack, "joined our team fresh out of college. "Last Friday, my manager invited everyone "to a bar after work. "There, Jack told everyone
about an achievement "that he obtained over spring break. "He visited his 150th country, Cambodia. "In contrast to everyone
else who were asking things "such as what was the
best/worst/strangest thing you ate, "which countries were your
favorite, and any cool stories, "I just said, 'Good for you,'
and went back to my drink. "Jack noticed me being quiet "and asked why I wasn't joining in. "I said, 'Don't worry about me.' "But Jack kept pressing the issue. "I finally said, "'Jack, visiting 150
countries is cool and all, "'but it doesn't anything
about you as a person. "'It just means you had rich parents "'who could afford to
travel internationally "'several times a year.' "I grew up poor, literally, "worked my ass off in high school, "got a full ride merit scholarship, "and did everything humanly possible "to land my current six figure job. "Rich people who think they're
better than everyone else "just because they had rich parents "is a huge pet peeve of mine. "But my coworkers don't know any of that "since I like to keep
work and my personal life "as separated as possible. "Jack got really quiet after
that and left soon afterwards. "Now it's Monday morning,
and I'm wondering "if I should have just
kept my mouth shut." I have two thoughts here. One is, yeah, the reality is he definitely only visited 150 countries
'cause he grew up rich. But also it's not like
he was sitting there... - Just checked a box and went back home. - He doesn't say that Jack was going, "Yeah, I visited 150 countries "and I'm better than all of you
and I did it all by myself." - [Sarah] Yeah. - Like, this does read as
like resentment and just like- - Yeah, the way he's like
kind of saying the story is it felt like Jack was
like, "Ask me anything. "I went to 150 countries," and everyone's like kind
of like fawning over Jack for like making this accomplishment when maybe that could be the vibe, or maybe it is people like, "Oh my god, what is the
craziest thing you ate? "Or what is the like-" - Yeah, it sounds like people- - Your favorite place, 'cause those would be
questions I would ask. - The way he's stating is like, "Everyone else just started
asking those things." He just stated, "I visited 150 countries." - Yeah, but then the OP
was like, "Cool, man," or something like that. - [Sarah] Yeah, and drank his beer. - Sounds cool. And then was like, "I don't give a shit." - It's interesting. He's like, "I've been here for a year," and like this is me definitely like plugging in my own
assumptions, filling in the gaps, of being like, maybe he's
no longer the new guy and there's this other person
who's so cool and interesting 'cause like just, I know,
listen, rich parents, when you boil it down to it, that is probably likely the reality. I also like, you know, Garrett
has been all over the world and like has so many stories and that's really shaped
who he is as a person. And when it's a new guy, like how else are they
gonna get to know this guy? - Right. It just doesn't seem like he was... At no point does he say
that Jack was saying like- - Boasting. - He wasn't boasting. He just was saying, "Hey,
this is a thing that I did." And regardless of how he
got it, like it could be he, and maybe Jack would even be like, "Yeah, I had rich parents
and we travel a lot." Either way, like traveling 150 countries is not something many people do. - Yeah, yeah, that's a lot. - I've only been to a handful, and I would be fascinated to talk to someone who's traveled to that many regardless of how they did it. - And maybe that is, I'm
sure it's probably like money and fortune have some sort of play in it, but it's like, I lived
all around the world and I'm a military kid, so it's like also too to
like make the assumption just because you're rich. It's like, I lived in Germany. I would go to the Netherlands for dinner. We were not rich. We were on like, you know,
like a pretty low salary at the time. I lived in Korea. I've like been to a lot of places, but that doesn't necessarily
mean I was well off too. So I think it's like the
OP seems to be like jumping to a lot of conclusions and maybe bringing their
own little like, you know, baggage and animosity. So I think like if you're all coworkers kind of having a drink
and the person's like, "Hey, what's wrong? "Like, your vibe's off," like maybe not the time and place to like kind of let that come out. - He seems like he's jumping to ways to make Jack feel not good. - Exactly. And I think if you felt icky in the moment or you're like, "Ugh, this is like," I'm a type of person that's
like if your hater's coming out, like maybe remove yourself
from the situation. - [Shayne] Yeah. - Like, if I'm scrolling on social media and someone I'm following
like brings out a hater in me, I'm like, "You know what? "Maybe that's something I need to work on. "Maybe I can unfollow this person "'cause I don't wanna be a hater." - [Shayne] That's fair. - 'Cause I don't know people's situations. - Yeah. And I'm going based on what
information he's got here, and he just doesn't give
us any quotes from Jack that make it sound like
Jack was trying to rub it in anyone's face. He was just like... - I also hate fun facts, when it's like, "Let's go around the room
and everybody say your name "and like a fun fact about yourself." Like, I never know what to say. - Yeah. - Even three truths, one lie. And, you know, I worked here,
we had to do games like that, and I hate playing those
games in real life. - [Shayne] Right. - Yeah, I also think it's tough, like when you grow up in
a low income situation, like a lot of people do kind of have a like a bitter feeling. Like, you know, and it can
affect like your relationships with people. And it's sad 'cause like that
could have been a friend, that could have been a potential friend. - Yeah, man. - They definitely are getting
off on the wrong foot. And yeah, like his feelings are real. Like, I don't know if he's just bummed that he hasn't been
able to do those things, or there could be many reasons
why he had that reaction. I like the hater- - The hater thing. Yeah, if it brings out your
hater, maybe get away from it. - It's also just like, for OP, I'm like, what are
you getting out of this? What's gonna- - It's just like bumming yourself out. - What's gonna happen? Like, okay? - Yeah, now you're sipping
a beer by yourself. - And now you have like tension
with that person at work. So it's like something with like, what is it like mandatory
fun events with work. And it's so funny because I'm like, I'm friends with so many coworkers, but then you have like a work happy hour, and the conversation just turns
like very stiff and weird. It's like, "Oh yeah, how was your day?" "Yeah, it was very good. "Yes, like mandatory fun at work." So it's like- - Simulated fun. - Yeah. Person. - Person simulating fun meeting. - So I think like while, you know, you should go to happy hours
or some work kind of function, you can kind of just show
face and then dip out. Like, that's kind of all you need to do, 'cause some of it is like a little bit of like a self PR thing. So it's like if you're feeling, you know, you're on this mandatory fun thing, you're feeling the hater come out, you can like finish your beer,
check out, and Irish goodbye. Most of the time you don't
even have to say goodbye. And then, you know, write
in your diary or on Reddit how much you don't like
this rich kid. (laughs) - Facts. - The verdict was asshole. - Wow. Okay. - "You're the asshole. "So? "Visiting 150 countries is really cool. "There was no need to shit
all over it and make a stink. "He never said he was
better than anyone else. "You just assumed that because
of your own insecurities." 25,000 up votes. - Wow. - Someone else said, "Going to 150 countries is an
achievement like it or not." And OP responded to that saying, "An achievement should be something "that you worked hard for, "not something that just
falls into your lap." - Oh. - 1,400 down votes. So also, hold on. He's 23 and says he- - Making six figures. - Six figures. I'm like, dude, you did great. Like, you're doing- - That's insane. - You're killing it. - [Sarah] Yeah. - That's insane. - Yeah. - You can visit 150 countries
over the course of your life. - And also like if this
23-year-old's career is gonna keep going in this
like pretty sweet path- - [Shayne] Oh my god. - Your kid's gonna be
the spoiled little kid and then full circle. - And then you're gonna hate him! - And then you're gonna hate him. - Oh no. - Lastly, we have a
comment here that says, "Not the asshole. "You tried to disengage. "You said congrats. "He wanted to press the issue. "I don't know why he cared so much "about what you thought about it "and why he kept pressing it. "Maybe he could sense you didn't care "and his ego couldn't handle it. "Just spit balling here. "But you're not wrong. "Going to 150 countries "by the time you reach your early 20s "does just mean he has rich parents. "And I mean good for him. "That must be sick." (Sarah laughs) - That was sick. I wish that was me. - That would be freaking sick. Yeah, you know, I can see where
this person is coming from, but this is all based
on how things were said and what was said at this event. If I was there and hearing this, my opinion would probably be- - Oh, 100%. - [Shayne] Different based on that. - The truth is somewhere in the middle. - I'm going based on what he
wrote here, and based on this, it just doesn't sound to
me like Jack was being... - And it's actually curious to me that Jack asked like, "Hey, man, you okay? "Like, what's going on?" - Yeah, he probably was being pissed off. - Probably sense, yeah, definitely like could
see the energy shift, and then- - 'Cause I'm the type
of person that's like, if there's a group of 10 of us and one person's like clearly not vibing, I'd be like, "Hey, are you okay? "Like, what's going on? "Do you wanna talk about it or something?" - Yeah. Weird. - Bummer town. - Yeah. Bummer. Here's our next one. "Am I the asshole for
demanding my coworker pay me "for a ride to work "after many months of
giving her a free ride?" - Oh. - [Shayne] All right. - Okay. - "For the last 14 months, "I've been driving one of my
coworkers to and from work. "She only lives a mile up the road from me "and is on the way, so I've
never asked her for a dime "or accepted when she's offered me money. "From my perspective, I'm
going there either way, "and her overall household
expenses are higher than my own, "so it felt like the thing to do. "Over the weekend, my
car went to the shop. "I told my coworker that
I wouldn't be available "to give her a ride
either Monday or Tuesday. "She said it wasn't a problem "because her boyfriend is off this week "and would give her a ride. "I asked if I could bum a ride as well. "I even offered to walk to her home "so they wouldn't have to drive backwards. "She asked her boyfriend about it, "and he said he would, but he
wanted $20 for the two days." - Oh. - "I know it's just 20
bucks, but that set me off. "I declined the offer and
said I'd find my own ride. "At work yesterday she asked about my car. "I told her I'd be getting my
car Tuesday night after work, "but that going forward
I'd like $30 a week, "a third of my gas costs, if
she wanted to ride with me. "She was upset about this "and said her boyfriend had
only wanted money from me "because by having me in the car, "he was being forced
to drive straight home "when he picked me up. "I pointed out that I've been
happy to drive straight home "to help her out for over a year "and that it probably
wouldn't have killed him "to show me at least some
level of appreciation. "Today she said she'd no
longer be riding with me "after talking about
it with her boyfriend. "She said she felt disappointed with me "for holding his actions against her "and that I was being petty. "A couple other coworkers
told me throughout the day "that her boyfriend's just an asshole "and she doesn't really
have a say at home, "but overall agreed with
me that it was a dick move. "From my perspective, this
dude directly benefits from me "thanks to his girlfriend
not needing a car of her own "or spending a dime in travel "and my coworker should have defended me. "Do you all think I'm
being petty about this?" - That's a little bit like wild. - I think it's a little wild. I think like girlfriend, girl should have maybe talked
with her boyfriend about it, like, "Hey, he never charges
me for like a ride, so like-" - Yeah, like, "He's been
doing me a solid for a year." - "For a long time. "I've offered money, he won't get it. "So like it's just one weekend. "Like, I'll give you the money or whatever "if it's that big of a deal." So I think like the
girlfriend's not totally like in the clear in the situation here. And then I think like OP
understandably was frustrated, but the like, "Okay, now you
have to give $30 a week," that's like a little, it
feels a little dramatic. - I would've just been like, "I can't give you rides anymore." - Yeah. Yeah. What sucks ultimately
is that her boyfriend is a huge douche. - Yeah. - He seems- - Yeah. - Like, that's what sucks here is like- - [Sarah] Yeah, that's what it is. - His car was in the shop. It was just like, "Can you just like," yeah, like you said, just having her, if she had been like, "Hey,
would you be able to?" And I wonder if she did,
and he was like, (beep) - Is the boyfriend and the coworker like directly talking to each other? And he was just like, "Give
me a $20," or like what- - A few days of driving
one mile is like kind of- - And it's 'cause his car was in the shop. His car was in the shop, so he told her like, "I
can't give you a ride." - [Sarah] Yeah. - And she said, "Fine, my
boyfriend's giving me a ride." - Yeah. - And then he was just like, "Great. "Can I bum a ride as well?" And then the boyfriend's like, "20 bucks." I'm like, Jesus. Like, he sounds like an '80s like jock- - I need a car and cigarettes. Come on, $20. - Yeah, and I get that he's pissed. I guess what I see is like, he's pissed but he's taking it out on her. - Yeah. Yeah. - And that's where I'm a
little like, okay, but- - I will say like OP being like, "He should show me appreciation." He's like, "No, I'm not involved
in that situation at all. "Why should I appreciate you?" But OP's been doing
his girlfriend a solid. - Yeah. - And like boyfriend
hasn't been having to worry about anything. - Yeah, there's all this conversation of like showing me appreciation and stuff. I'm like, to me it's not that deep. It's just a matter of like, come on, guys. Like, just be cool. - Yeah, just be cool. - Just give people a ride
when they ask for it. - One mile. - Like, even if he hadn't
been giving her a ride, and he was just a coworker of hers, and then she was like, "Oh, my coworker, "his car's in the shop. "Do you mind if we give him a ride?" - Yeah. - I'd be like, "Yeah." - [Sarah] Exactly. - That's just a nice thing to do. - Yep, yep, yep. Especially when you're
like carpooling together. - [Shayne] Yeah, just do that. - OP offered to walk to their house. - Yeah. - [Shayne] Yeah. - And was still being asked to pay. - It sucks. - I think like instead
of like the $30 surcharge all of a sudden, I think it'd be like, "Hey, like I think like what
happened with your boyfriend's "like a little awkward for me, "so I think I just prefer
to like drive on my own. "Sorry, man." - [Shayne] Yeah. - Like, no hard feelings. - Yeah, that's totally
fair, I think, to just- - Instead of being like, "$30 now a week." It's like- - Yeah, I feel bad for
her in that situation. - But she should have kind of like facilitated the negotiation. - [Shayne] Yeah. - 'Cause it's two people doing her solids. - Right. Let's see. The verdict was not the asshole. That he wasn't an asshole for
how he went about all of this. - Sure. - Comments. "Petty. Yes. "Asshole. No." (Sarah laughs) "While she can blame her
boyfriend, she went along with it. "She should have explained to him "how for over a year
you gave her free rides "and asking for money was tacky for him. "But she didn't. "She just went along with it. "She showed you what she
thought of your kindness "and friendship. "You're just showing her the same. "Not the asshole." Someone else said, "Not the asshole. "This is truly wild. "It sounds like it's her
boyfriend who is the A "and not really her." That's how I kind of feel. - [Sarah] Yeah. - "But if my boyfriend made such a request "after a year of little free rides, "I would be mortified and
would never repeat it to you. "Maybe she has some alarming
relationship dynamics, "but either way you are
not doing anything wrong, "and I would argue that you
weren't even really that petty." Yeah. - Yeah, I think it's like, it's like you're saying,
like just be cool. Like, not everything
needs to be transactual. Transactional. - Transactional. - Trans-actually. Transactionally. And also it doesn't need to... Yeah, it just sucks when it
becomes like a one-two punch. - It just like blew up. - Now I'm gonna screw you back. - It's just douchey. When someone's in a situation
like that where it's like, "Hey, I don't have a ride to work," it's like, just give someone a ride. You know they're a good person. They're someone who has helped
out someone you care about. Just do them a solid. - Yep. - It's not that hard. - Yeah. - All right. Next up. "Am I the asshole for telling my coworker "to stop using my personal belongings?" - Oh. - Love stories like this. - What is the personal belonging. - Hmm. - Hmm. - A tampon. - Oh. (laughs) - You done with that? (Courtney laughs) - Sisterhood of the
traveling tampon. (laughs) - Sorry. - "So I, a 28-year-old woman, "have been working at this
small software company "for about three years now,
and I genuinely love my job. "I have great coworkers, "and the work environment
is generally positive. "However, there is this one coworker, "let's call her Sarah." - Oh
- Oh. - "A 32-year-old woman, "who has been increasingly
crossing boundaries." - I don't work at software. - It's not you. It's not her. It's not her. - "A bit of background. "Sarah joined the company
around a year ago, "and we were initially friendly. "We would have lunch together occasionally "and chat about random things. "I didn't think much of it, "and it seemed like a
normal office friendship." - Sarah sounds awesome. (everyone laughs) - "However, over time I noticed "that Sarah had started
to use my belongings "without asking for permission." - Damn it, Sarah. - "For example, she would
take my stapler, pens, "or even my phone charger without asking. "At first, I brushed it off
as her just being forgetful "and not realizing that
these were my personal items. "I tried to be understanding
and not let it bother me, "but then things started to escalate. "One day I brought in a
special lunch I had prepared "as a treat for myself. "It was a dish that my
grandmother used to make for me, "and it had a lot of sentimental value. "I had placed it in the fridge "with a note clearly stating it was mine. "When lunchtime came around, "I discovered that Sarah had
taken and eaten my lunch." (Courtney gasps) "I confronted her, and she apologized, "claiming that she thought it was meant "for the whole office to share. "I didn't buy it, but I let it
go to avoid causing a scene." I thought it was for the whole office- - How big was the- - I ate the whole thing. - [Shayne] It was for the
whole office, so I ate it. - Whole crockpot into the fridge. - Wow, this is for the
whole office, right? Well, I am the whole office. (everyone laughs) But then, let's see. "Over the next few months, "Sarah's behavior continued to worsen. "She began using my personal
laptop without asking, "even though we all have
our own work computers. "She would also use my coffee
mug and other personal items, "despite me having my name on them. "I tried to address it
politely and asked her to stop, "but she would just laugh it off "and say she didn't mean any harm. "Finally, I reached my
breaking point last week. "I had bought a new
expensive pair of headphones "to use at work, and I had
left them on my desk overnight. "When I arrived the next day, "I found Sarah using them at her desk. "I was furious and asked her
to hand them over immediately. "She tried to play it off
as a joke, but I had enough. "I told her that it was not funny "and that she needed to stop
using my personal belongings "without permission. "I said it was disrespectful
and a violation of my privacy. "The rest of the office
heard the commotion "and some of my coworkers agreed with me "while others said I was
overreacting and should let it go. "Sarah hasn't spoken to me since, "and the atmosphere has become tense. "A few coworkers have even suggested "that I owe Sarah an apology "for embarrassing her
in front of everyone. "So am I the asshole
for telling my coworker "to stop using my personal belongings?" - Nah. Sarah's the asshole. - Oh. - Yeah, Sarah's a huge asshole. - Sarah's the biggest asshole. - I feel bad for OP
because like they did try and gently say, "Hey, stop." And then for Sarah to just
be like, "Ah, it's okay. "It's just all good and fun," is tough. But I like, I would- - That was a great Sarah impression. (everyone laughs) - It's okay. It's okay. - It's okay. It's all good. - I thought it was mine. - Oh, is that for the whole office? (Shayne grumbles and yells) (everyone laughs) - Okay, but like what I
would've done in OP's position is like maybe go to HR, and then HR could make
like a grand statement to everybody of like, "Hey, everyone has their
own personal belongings "for their job. "Please respect, and
everybody use your own "so that we can keep
track of who has what." - This is definitely like an HR offense. - 'Cause she's not the asshole
for how she went about it, but there is a way to do it
while protecting yourself in a workplace. - [Sarah] Yeah. - I mean, I think she's fine. - It's always so embarrassing though. Like, the lunch thing's
like out of control. - That's crazy. - And I'm like, where do you
get the audacity to do that? Like, that is crazy. And like your point, if it
was for the whole office, why are you heating up the whole thing and eating it yourself? But to me it's like, it's
always so confusing to me when people act this crazy
in a professional environment where it's like, I know you
have a job, I know your job, and like you are acting like
this is just like the wild and you can just kind of
like claim your territory. That's always been like so bizarre to me when like I hear stories like this. - [Shayne] It's really bizarre. - I've personally never
had, knock on wood, I've never had my lunch
stolen by like a coworker. - That's the most comical- - I'd be so sad. - Like, invasion of privacy I've ever, whenever I've heard those
stories online or in TV shows, I'm just like, that's insane to me. - And the audacity of
people too, the entitlement, because there's been a
lot of stories we've read where people are having their lunch stolen and then they like add a
bunch of spiciness to it or something. - Oh yeah. - And the person like tries to sue them or like gets upset at them, and they're like, "This is your fault." It's like you are taking shit from them. - You're taking my food. - I don't understand, like
respect people's shit. - And office supplies like a laptop. Like, that's serious to me. - Or the headphones too. - Yes. - Like, that's crazy. - Like, final straw. Reasonably so. - And then the way I'd be
label making every single thing to say Sarah, but not
that Sarah on my shit. - I am that Sarah, but I am not that Sarah.
- That Sarah. - Yeah. - Does Sarah have an H or no H? - No H. Wait. - [Sarah] See, they're- - No, there's an H. There's an H.
- Damn it! - It's just like you. It's just like you.
- Dang it! - It's just like you, and
this is what you were like. - It's giving Sarahs a bad name. - Comments. "Not the asshole, but
you need to go to HR." - [Sarah] Yes. - 19,000 up votes. - When you're lucky and you
got a great HR situation, like that's awesome. HR period would've so much helped in this. I also feel bad. Like, literally nothing was
able to be sacred to OP. Like, the only way that this per person could have continued
to protect their piece would've been to like
get a safe or something. - Yeah, like lock it away. - That's insane. - But also, yeah, you go
to HR too to cover your ass 'cause then you can say,
"I went to HR about this." - Exactly, yeah. - And then if something isn't
handled, then it's like, hey- - [Sarah] Get that paper trail. - I can now show that this didn't happen, and my company let me down. - 100%. - Or if you weren't ready, if they weren't comfortable
to get HR involved, email Sarah and be like, "Hey, I understand, like, I
love that you're comfortable." - "As discussed today in the office, "like, I'd appreciate it if
you didn't like eat my lunch." - Yeah. (Shayne laughs) - "You know, my name was clearly labeled." - "Hey (beep)" - "Hey, bitch." - Yeah, don't do that. (laughs) - [Shayne] Right, right. - Okay. - No, it's smart. That's smart thinking. Someone else said, "Not the asshole. "The headphones/lunch
were yours and not hers. "While I would argue using
a stapler isn't harmful, "it just adds to everything else." - It's my stapler. - "What is most irritating about her "seems to be she tries
to just laugh it off "and carry on like she
hasn't done anything wrong. "Don't apologize. "Wait for her to do that." Someone else said,
"Worked in an office once "where the coworker's
lunch was repeatedly stolen "despite his name on the container. "His lunch was kept behind my container "with a sign that read, "'Eat someone else's
food, expect a writeup.' "Got to the point where he'd
just put a slice of moldy bread "in the container, and
I packed lunch for two." - Oh - [Shayne] Damn. - Aw. - I don't, that's crazy. - So that person kept getting
stolen from no matter what, to the point where they had
to rely on somebody else. - That's personal. - I would bring my like own cooler if the communal fridge was unsafe. - But that sucks if the communal fridge is like to that degree. - I know. - I can't believe people do that. - You gotta do what I do, and my lunch is just
really shitty and gross. - I would rather someone
take $5 from my wallet than to take my meal, you know? Food is precious to me. That's my personal priority. - I don't like stuff
getting stolen from me. - Stealing period, wrong, period. But food is sacred to me
and it's special to me. And that's like really intimate. - Sometimes that's like the highlight of my workday honestly. - Dare I say highlight
of everyday, period. - I meal prep, so, you know, I would know, like if someone was stealing
my lunch, I would know because they'd get really (beep) jacked, and I'd be like, "Hey." I'd be like, "Hey, Brennan,
you're looking pretty buff. "Like, I think you've
been eating my chicken "and rice every day." - And he'd be like, "What
are you talking about, boy?" - He'd be like, "What?" He grabs a camera and
breaks it in his hands. I'd be like, "Hey, you need
to stop, Brennan." (laughs) - What is like a typical
lunch for you then that you meal prep? - I'm not kidding. It's chicken and rice. - But like grilled chicken and white rice? - I roast the chicken. I actually throw a ton of seasoning in it. I just throw the whole cabinet at it. So I'm throwing soy sauce
in there, soy paste. I'm throwing oyster sauce in there. - [Sarah] Oh, okay. - I'm throwing pepper into there. I'm putting some Korean
chili flakes in there. - So it's not as boring. I would take that food. - It's not boring, it's just- - Me Sarah would steal that food. (everyone laughs) - It's just chicken and then white rice. It's just that. - [Sarah] Got it. - Like, if someone's
stealing that, it's like, dude, you can get that easily. - I want Shayne to cook for me. - Yeah. - He hasn't cooked for me yet, and we've always talked about cooking. - I love cooking. - Cooking. - I know. No, my goal for this year is to try to make soup dumplings at some point. - What happened to the splits? - I failed. - Oh, you've just given up? - Not fully. - [Sarah] Interesting. - I'd still love to do it someday. - I'm pretty close. - I know you actually started
around the same time I set- - If I had balls, they'd touch the ground. - Wow. - That's how close I am. - That's awesome. - Isn't it awesome? - I love that for you. - If I had little tiny balls. - If I had little tiny balls, they'd touch the ground. (laughs) - All right. Whoa. Okay. Here's our final story. - This one's beefy? - So this comes from Pro Revenge. "My boss stole my Super Bowl tickets, "so I made him lose a major client." (Sarah gasps) - What year is this from? - This is from 2023. - Okay. - Whoa. - So this is the Chiefs/Eagles Super Bowl. All right. - You just knew that? - Yeah, he likes football, remember? - It was a year ago. - Football guy. Okay. - I told you how I was supposed
to date Travis Kelce, right? - She was supposed to. She was legally supposed to. - I just had to sign a
paperwork and I wouldn't. - [Shayne] You did tell me about that. You could have dated Travis Kelce. - This close. - You could have been doing
your Eras tour right now. - Sarah is the Taylor Swift of LinkedIn. (everyone laughs) - That's so gross. (laughs) - That's so messed up. "With the NFL playoffs back on, "I thought you all might enjoy "this football-related revenge story. "I'm a huge 49ers fan. "The rabid all day tailgate
in the parking lot type. "A few years ago we made
it back to the Super Bowl. "I was working at a consulting firm "with a handful of accounts I
would interact with directly." I just wanna point out, this
is from a couple years ago where it was the 49ers versus the Chiefs, but not this recent 49ers versus Chiefs. - Wow.
- Oh. (crew laughs) (Shayne sighs) - I'm gonna go. (everyone laughs) "One client in particular "knew how big of a Niners fan I was. "I was the day-to-day lead on his account. "He really liked working with
me, and we became friends, "often grabbing drinks or
dinner after our meetings. "He had access to a pair of
extra company seats to the game, "and as a thank you wanted
to give them to me as a gift. "He passed the tickets over
to the partner on that account "who I'll refer to as Dickhead Partner "to be given to me as a surprise. "The game came and went. "We lost. It sucked. "The next time we met, we
went to drinks afterwards, "and he mentioned, "'Hey, by the way, why
didn't you go to the game? "'I heard someone else was in your seats.' "I asked, 'What game?' "He said, 'The Super Bowl.' "Confused I answered, "'I didn't have seats to the Super Bowl.' "He told me that he gave
Dickhead Partner a pair "of his company tickets for me
as a gift so I could attend. "I had zero idea what
he was talking about. "He looked shocked. "He told me to quietly ask around about it "and get back to him. "When I was back in the
office the next week, "I found out through
one of the secretaries "that Dickhead Partner had given a pair "of Super Bowl tickets to
another one of his clients "as a gift from our company." - Interesting. - "I might have let this sort of thing go "to keep the peace under
different circumstances, "but these were seats on the 30 yard line "to see the (beep) 49ers
play in the Super Bowl. "I was pissed. "I considered confronting
Dickhead Partner myself, "but realized it was the client "who had noticed I wasn't
there in the first place, "so if I let him handle it, "there would be no blow back on me. "So I texted him, 'Hey, I
just wanna thank you so much "'for thinking of me with those seats. "'It appears that they were given "'to another one of our firm's clients.' "He texted back right away in all caps, "'Are you shitting me?' "And then, 'Pretend I never told you. "'Let me handle.' "He followed up with me
about formulating a plan. "A few days later we
were asked to come down "for a meeting in their office. "The client requested
the partner be present, "not entirely unusual. "So Dickhead Partner and I
hopped on a flight the next week "and headed over to their office. "Little did Dickhead Partner know, "my client had orchestrated "a wonderfully awkward little
show to catch him red handed. "When we entered the conference room, "it was all the usual suspects "along with a woman in her
30s we didn't recognize. "My client immediately introduces, "'Dickhead Partner, this
is Stephanie such-and-such, "'VP from other department. "'She wanted sit in on this meeting. "'Hey, OP, you guys must already know her "'from the Super Bowl.' "She then responds as she
goes to shake my hand, "'Oh, I don't think so. "'Did we meet there? "'I'm sorry if I forgot.' "Client responds, "'Geez, Steph, how much
did you have to drink? "'They were sitting right next to you.' "Client looked at me and I say, 'Sorry, client, I wasn't there. "'Are you thinking of someone else?' "At this point, "Dickhead Partner is looking
visibly uncomfortable, "probably trying to
come up with an excuse. "He starts in with an, 'Um...' "When Stephanie says over to him, "'No, so-and-so from other
company were in the other seats. "'By the way, I was wondering
why we gave company seats "'to those guys. "'Is there a project
we're working with them on "'that I don't know about?' "Obviously not. "They were in completely
different industries. "It would be like Coca-Cola
partnering with John Deere." (Sarah laughs) - Honestly. - That'd be sick as (beep) - Lit. (laughs) - This is a Coke tractor. (everyone laughs) - Honestly. (laughs) - "Dickhead Partner lets
out an, 'Uh,' again, "and the client immediately
speaks over him asking, "'Dickhead Partner, I gave
you those tickets for OP.' "At this point, Dickhead
Partner is turning bright red. "He responds, 'Oh, uh... "'Well, he wasn't able to make it, "'so he must have given the
seats away to someone else,' "and turns to me looking
for me to cover for him." (Courtney gasps) - Yikes. - "Client smirks at me. "I responded, 'What are you talking about? "'Client, you gave me
tickets to the Super Bowl?' "Client suddenly raises his
voice, 'Dickhead Partner, "'those tickets were a
personal thank you gift "'from me to OP. "'Did you give them away to someone else?' "Pause. "'Was it another client?' "Dickhead Partner butts in with, "'Oh, um, maybe something
got mixed up in the office?' "Client went quiet for what
probably seemed like an eternity "to Dickhead Partner. "He then looked down, grabbed
his portfolio and iPad, "put them into his briefcase, and said, "'I think this meeting is over. "'OP, it seems as if I
owe you a thank you gift. "'Let's go to lunch. "'Stephanie, you're welcome to come join. "'Dickhead Partner, I need to
reevaluate our relationship. "'Please go back home and expect
to hear from us next week.' "Dickhead Partner suggests
he would like to join, "presumably to do damage control. "And Stephanie sternly tells him, "'I don't think that's a good idea.' "And asks the front desk to
see Dickhead Partner out. "As soon as he's in the elevator, "we all break out laughing hysterically. "Stephanie wasn't really a VP, "just an employee at the
company client had drafted "into helping with this
pre-planned meeting skit. "But she did end up coming
to the lunch with us "and was a fellow Niners fan "and a total blast to hang out with." (Sarah laughs) - Fun fact. - "On our way to the restaurant, "I got a desperate text from partner "saying I needed to cover for the firm "and that we could discuss
things when I got back. "I replied, 'Yes, we need to talk, "'but I'll see what I can do.' "Client told me to wait a couple hours "and then respond to him. "One, to expect invoices
for the resale value "of the Super Bowl tickets. "Resell is way above face value. "It was over $10,000. "As well as our lunch. "He picked a pricey spot and
made a big show of overspending "and that he expected them
to be paid immediately. "Two, expected I be
given a direct apology. "Three, expected a written
apology to his company "for what he considered theft. "And four, he will only interact with me "or another one of our firm's partners, "never Dickhead Partner. "This whole thing caused a
stir with the other partners. "And I actually came off looking great "because it appeared that I
had made a good faith effort "to save the client for the firms "despite being the
victim in this situation. "The client would transfer
to another partner, "which meant Dickhead
Partner lost his profit share "on any work with them. "Oh, and the other partners in the firm "made Dickhead Partner
pay the invoices back "out of his own salary." - Ooh.
- Ooh. - "In retrospect, "I really have no idea what
the hell the guy was thinking. "Did he seriously believe the client "would just not notice me not thanking him "for the Super Bowl tickets? "Anyway, the well was kind of poisoned "for me there long term "because Dickhead Partner
wasn't going anywhere. "I left the firm a few months later "for a much better position. "Client ultimately
terminated their relationship "with that firm a year later. "He actually now works
with a good friend of mine "at a competing firm. "I'm still pissed I missed
out on the Super Bowl, "even though we lost." (Sarah laughs) "Hoping we make it back this year "so I can finally go to one in person. "Go Niners." - Go Niners. - We are filming this like three
days before the Super Bowl. So hope this guy's having a good time. - This whole story is
giving "Oceans 11" yards. - Yeah, yeah. (crew laughs) - [Brennan] Shit. - This is like- - Got him. I got Brennan. - This is like the coffee
shop high school kid but like grown up. - Yeah. - This is like the whole- - Yes. - Yeah, exactly. - Okay, so Stephanie pretended
to be the VP of the client and was like, "Yeah, I was at the game. "Why weren't you there?"
- "Where were you?" - [Shayne] Yeah. - Okay. Wow. - Pretty, pretty, pretty awesome. That's some "Oceans 11." - That's gotta be devastating to learn about an incredible
gift that you almost had and then was literally taken from you and given to another client. - Huge gift. - But also this is like
a huge, yeah, it's like- - Expensive. - Super Bowl tickets as
far as I always assume too, it's not just that they're expensive, it's like they're impossible to get. - They're impossible to get. I think the Super Bowl this
year just to walk on the field because they have like
standing room only I guess for the Super Bowl, just to
walk into the stadium is $8,000. That's what I heard. But like it's like that kind of thing. But I just like don't understand where Dickhead Partner really
thought like he was that slick that he was like gonna get away with it, 'cause it's one thing to
be like a bottle of wine or something like that,
but like this is so big. - I wonder if it's that
he just thought like, "I'm so powerful. "What the (beep) are they
gonna even do about it?" - Yeah. - Or maybe there was a lack of thinking because they were just like, "Oh, a gift like this will
make me look really good "to my other client and
solidify my relationship "with that client." - I guess we got some information here. The OP is in the ticket queue
for this year's Super Bowl. - Aw. Yay.
- Yay. - 49ers. - Some comments. "Imagine what sort of
human being you have to be "to essentially steal a
$10,000 ticket from a worker. "Disgusting to say the least. "Level of orchestration and
execution on this revenge "was so perfect though. "Suck it, Dickhead Partner. "The worst part is that had
OP actually been at the game, "the 49ers probably would've won." (everyone laughs) "That's how it works, as every-" - [Courtney] Okay, sarcasm. - "As every football fan knows "deep in their heart of hearts." - Yeah, that's funny. - "Holy crap. "I can't imagine the logic
in giving the tickets "to another client "when the gifting company
would likely have other staff "in attendance." - Yeah, 'cause they probably
have like a box there. So it's always like the same few people with maybe a few guests that show up. So like you probably become friends with like the area that you have. But back to like, you know, what you put out there is what you give. Like, I had a friend, a coworker
many years ago say like, you know, what money
you lose will come back. And then the same way, like the money you steal will go away. So I think like this is the
exact kind of scenario of like, he kind of stole those tickets and now he's having to like reimburse them with his own money. I really believe in that stuff. What you put out there is
like what you get back. - Yeah, and like company gifting stuff. Like, it makes sense that it is grounds of like company theft
because like that was like, that company spent money or, you know, there's no such thing as a free lunch. Gave those tickets and,
dude, it was fricking- - And a lot of companies,
like I don't know about firms and like legal stuff like that, but a lot of companies
have like anti-bribery and anti-gift clauses too that you have to like
watch and sign with HR. So like taking these
large gifts, you know, depending on your company's
policy can really be against company policy 'cause it's kind of like
a way to influence it. - Interesting. - Yeah, 'cause so if I had a
lawyer and I gave them a gift, you know, like, "Thank you for negotiating "for me all these years. "You've done great work for me." But for a lawyer to give
me a gift feels different. - That's where it gets
a little like shady. - [Shayne] Interesting. - I don't know. - Have you ever gotten
revenge on a coworker? - No. I don't think... - Didn't you find that bag
of shit under your chair that she put? - No, I've just left it there. (Sarah laughs) - That was like a gift. That wasn't revenge. No, I don't think I've ever had like a very, very bad
experience with a coworker. - No. - I wasn't there when
all the like crazy stuff with Defy happened. - I once had a coworker who
kept trying to set me up with customers at our job. - Oh, uncomfy. - And it was very like,
yeah, it was very assertive. And it was uncomfy. And I was super young, so I
didn't have like tact yet, and I was like, "You need to stop trying
to set me up with men! "Stop it!" And she was like... Never happened again. - "You need to stop setting
me up on dates with men!" (everyone laughs) - Damn. - Shayne, I would never get
in trouble with anything. - Shayne is, yeah. - So it's like, Shayne's just like... - Shayne's that guy. Shayne's that Sarah. I mean, but not that Sarah. - Not that Sarah. - I'm not that Sarah. You are that Sarah. - No. - Before we go, Sarah, do you have a favorite
Smosh work story at all? - Ooh. - [Shayne] Any sort of favorite thing? - You just want me to, hmm... - Or if anybody does. - Yeah, we've had so
many memories together. - Everything. Everything. - I remember, sorry, I'm gonna steamroll. - Okay. Go. - I remember when Smosh
had been abandoned, and then Mythical bought it, and then we literally were so happy that we got you back on the team that we literally went out and partied. - We did, we did. That was really nice. It was really nice to come back. That was so nice. Yeah, 'cause it was like, it was a moment where we really didn't
know the future of Smosh, and so it really was like a
moment where we were all like, "You know, we gotta do this together "'cause like we're better together. "So like let's just genuinely, "like, we don't know where
the (beep) this is gonna go. "If it's gonna be around four years later "or five years later. "Like, let's just band
together and like do our best." And like it's amazing. Like, I am so proud of
what you guys have done, and Anthony's back, and- - I know, man. - It's like, it's come full circle and so, yeah, I think that was a
really, really nice memory. And I still watch videos. I still go back. I like watch it fondly. I forget the shit that I've said. (everyone laughs) - I know. - And I'm like, oh, I was in that video? I was in that video? But like- - I was waxing people
when they got words wrong? - I feel so grateful that I still can very much
like look back on this place as like my home, and like
I miss you guys so much, but I'm so happy for you guys too. Like, I really did what I
set to do three years ago was to become a fan and so
like, so proud of you guys. - Aw. - Hell yeah. - I don't wanna cry. - Don't. - Don't cry. - That's other Sarah behavior. (everyone laughs) - All right, well, Courtney, Sarah, thank you for being here. - Thank you for having me. - Sarah, where can people find you now? - In the fridge. Stealing food. (everyone laughs) - Moldy bread. - No, I'm in the same
place I've always been. RudeUnicorns on Instagram and TikTok. I don't post a lot, but
I do post sometimes. - Okay. - You know, you wanna see my cats? You miss my cats? They're still around. - Hell yeah. All right, well thank
you guys for being here and thank you for watching. Let us know what other themes and subreddits you want
us to cover on the show, and we'll see you later. Goodbye! Don't be a Sarah. (everyone laughs)
