What if Joseph Joestar Lost?

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Joseph Joestar is the glue to a lot of what makes JoJo's Bizarre Adventure what it is. So, imagine if lost Joseph Joestar after his fight with Ultimate Kars. Where would we be? [Marvel What if – Intro] “Time. Space. Reality. It's more than a linear-“ Wait, what’s up? I can’t do that? Is that like a hard no from them? Huh, ok. … I AM KALEB I.A. I AM YOUR GUIDE THROUGH THESE VAST NEW REALITI- WHAT IF… Our story begins in Battle Tendency. After sending Kars to space, Joseph falls with a giant piece of rock. Now in the canon, Joseph survives this, but in this? He explodes. We've seen how sad everyone was to see that Joseph didn't make it, but this time he's not there to come out of nowhere to tell them he's not dead. What would happen to everyone else? Well, Speedwagon is still going to die a bachelor, I imagine. He's a huge businessman, and I suspect the love of his life will continue to be a part of Dio, so nothing is happening with that. Erina also passes. Lisa Lisa might greave for a considerable time. Still, she can continue living the way she did before, considering her resolve. Smokey can most likely still become mayor and proceed not to be Part 3. So, as for the cast, it doesn't seem that major of a change. But here's the thing, without Joseph, you're missing one of the people in the world with the ability to wield one of the strongest powers in the world of JoJo. Not any weird stand phenomena or something, but instead, the Speedwagon Foundation. Joseph had an excellent sense for the odd things in JoJo, so to lose someone like that, the foundation's development and the pursuit for things like Stand Users most likely don't exist without Joseph. Though I think with Joseph gone, it would probably go with Lisa Lisa. So, I'm going in that direction. She's the closest thing we have to a Joestar at this time since there's a certain someone still underwater. And that means it's about time to talk about... It's time for Part 3. Jotaro Kujo, Joseph Joestar, and a group of friends they've made along the way join together to stop the evil forces of Dio. Except... They can't. Without Joseph Joestar, there's no Holly. This situation makes it easy for Jotaro because he won't have as bad a timespan to destroy Dio. But here's a bigger problem for Jotaro, HE DOESN'T EXIST. Also, without Joseph, there's no Avdol. With no Jotaro, there's no Kakyoin for Dio to use as bait. With no Crusaders, there's no Iggy or Polnareff. With no Crusaders, there's no one to stop Dio. Or at least, that would be the case if we axed Lisa Lisa. But here's what I'm going to propose. The history of Dio is one most likely known by everyone in the Joestar family, as that conversation is pretty much inescapable with Erina there. So, knowing Dio and the events of the Pillar Men should have someone like Lisa Lisa on alert. Especially with losing her son and husband, I imagine she'd try to prevent stuff like that from happening again like Joseph. I also guess that she'd either have an apprentice or her kid, and that kid would essentially be our new hero. Also, the hero not being of Joestar blood is possible. It wouldn't be the first time it happened. Ok, so now reset. We have a new character, and they’re taking the role of a Joestar protagonist. The problem with it is that they won't get the blood email that Dio is back again. So, it would take a bit longer, but sooner or later, the information would get to them and the Speedwagon Foundation. But on a good note, I also believe that our new protagonist or parent could find Avdol again through gravity. My problem now is, "Ok, you know Dio is back, but what are you going to do." In an ideal situation, they'd be one of the people born with a stand. But it's very much possible that they have no "Stand," and this becomes another reality where Dio wins. But I will establish it and branch off to other scenarios. So, in Scenario 1, Lisa Lisa moves on with her life, and Dio takes over. Scenario 2, Lisa Lisa takes up the role of the entire Joestar family, and our new protagonist has no stand, and Dio takes over. The only way we can progress to the other parts is by defeating Dio. We'll be getting to that, but let's look to the other parts to see how they're holding up in a world without Joseph. Diamond is Unbreakable without Joseph Joestar might as well be called Yoshikage Kira Lives a Normal life the series. No Joseph means no Josuke, no Jotaro; Koichi is alone. Okuyasu continues to be abused by Keicho, Akira continues to play his guitar, and Tonio opens a great restaurant. This new life is ridiculous, except for the last two things. Those happen anyways. But man, this is some wild stuff. Without Joseph, there's nobody that's out there that's going to be the stop to Kira. He goes about his life doing what he's doing. You know, until Dio taking over the world becomes a thing. Which... considering the time of Part 3, it probably would've happened before Part 4, but we'll get back to Part 3 later. On to Golden Wind! So, this is an interesting part when it comes to this scenario. See, Giorno Giovanna can be born. It depends on Dio's wants. But, let’s say that he is born. Giorno never meets Koichi, as Koichi is sent by Jotaro, and Jotaro doesn’t exist. So, that means that Giorno doesn’t get help from Koichi against Black Sabbath. But that also means that he won’t be busy trying to dodge Koichi either. I think through JoJo storytelling, Giorno will progress with no problem at this time, but to imagine a scenario where Giorno falls asleep, and the lighter goes out... That would be wild. Bruno’s Bizarre Adventure. Or, well, Bruno's Bizarre Adventure V.2. But, putting that aside, this scenario would only exist if Dio went and got into real estate or something instead of furthering his heaven plans. So… What does that say about- Yeah, we never get to Stone Ocean with this scenario. Everything has already changed by now. So let’s go back to No, that’s the wrong on- Yes… Well, close. That’s not even the right anime. Is that Yakuza- Alright. So, we’re in a scenario where we’ve picked up Avdol. Now we have two crusaders, but our placeholder character whose supposed to take up the mantle, doesn't have a stand. How can we get these two to beat Dio? Well, the Speedwagon Foundation is posted up in D.C. and Dallas for the most part, with mini involvements here and there. If Lisa Lisa is alive and trying to take care of everything, that means that we could have a California branch. Now that’s three large areas where we can try to find stand users. If we had a reason to be in New York, like Joseph being there, we’d be able to get Iggy. But I don’t know why we’d be in New York, so that’s off the table. So, let’s say that we do find stand users in Dallas, D.C., and California. Do we stand a chance against Dio? Let's look at the majority of stands and the average amount of strength and try to apply it to our group with some tweaks here and there. It would be safe to say that they have no chance of taking on Dio and his minions. What did you think I was gonna say? “Oh, yeah, they got a fighting chance!” The original Crusaders we had before barely survived the journey. Avdol and Iggy got blown away by Vanilla Ice. Joseph technically died, and Polnareff's mentality saved him. Plus, if Jotaro couldn't stop time, let's be honest, both he and Polnareff would've been served on a hot plate with a side of mashed potatoes. So, what would happen if we Lost Joseph Joestar? We’d get smacked so hard we change art styles. Thank you all for watching. Hopefully, I see you all in the next one! Until then, peace out, and God speed.
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Channel: Kaleb I.A.
Views: 302,646
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Keywords: jojos bizarre adventure, joseph joestar, jotaro kujo, battle tendency, part 2, stardust crusaders, jojo part 2, part 3, what if, jojo part 3, jojo bizarre adventure, part 4, joseph joestar battle tendency, old joseph joestar, jojo stands, jonathan joestar, phantom blood, diamond is unbreakable, joseph part 2, vento aureo, golden wind, stone ocean, jojo part 6, jojo part 5, jojo part 4
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Length: 11min 30sec (690 seconds)
Published: Sat Sep 25 2021
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