Transgender Model Defends Her Comments Claiming 'All White People' Are Racist | Good Morning Britain

you must have known when you wrote your very public facebook post just how sensitive those words were going to be um i don't have the energy to talk about the racial violence of white people um most of you refuse to acknowledge your existence privilege and success as a race is built on the backs blood and death of people of color um do you think that all white people are racist i don't think that all white people are by nature racist um from conception to birth i think that we are all the same um but we need to speak about how we're socialized as a people and my my um post was based on socialization and racism as a structure um i think as a society words taught certain things we're taught that men are superior to women we're taught that women are meant to be submissive we're told that gay people are meant to be ashamed of their sexuality but it doesn't mean that this is how things need to be do you think all people or white people are responsible for that or believe that or i don't think that all white people believe it no i think that there is cases um well i mean there's loads of allies i mean you don't need to think this way and it takes actively dismantling racism to be an ally because if you're not doing anything then how are you helping racism so you said uh when you explained about this you said white people are racist due to socialization in the same way that men are socialized to be sexist and heterosexual people are socialized to be homophobic so i'm a white straight male guy what about you so basically i'm like i'm like enemy number one so i'm a racist sexist homophobe are your logic sexist yes i'm all sexist someone's friend and i'm not racist and i'm not a homophobe so who are you with the greatest of respect to you who are you to say that every straight white guy in the world is a well you did you said white people are racist due to socialization in the same way that men are socialized to be sexist heterosexual people are socialized to be homophobic you are calling straight white guys like me a series of offensive stereotypical labels which i find i find very offensive okay this is why there's a problem because you're taking it there is a problem i am taking it personally when you say all white people are racist as a white person i find that eventually please let me speak instead of speaking over the floor is yours okay so basically instead of taking it personally please think about how to be part of the solution what do you think about being part of the solution i am part of the student you're not you're causing more division i'm not calling you you're basically causing more divisions by talking about racism is not causing divide there's a divide anyway we need to be speaking about what this what the root of racism what the root of sexism is and sexist doesn't come from women so of course it's caused by men this is a social culture you don't think women can be sexist i don't think that women can enforce uh misogyny load of nonsense no because it's all you don't think any women can be don't uphold the patriarchy piers that is the patriarchy you don't know what the patriots i do but explain it the patriarchy is basically a structure that puts men at the top of power so the five most not within that enforcer the five most powerful people in this country currently are women how does that how does that sit with your patriarchy you're saying that the patriarchy doesn't exist i'm saying the five most powerful people in britain are women so this idea that men still rule the entire planet and allow these evil creatures to be removed from power because he doesn't exist his but the patriarchy exists my point about this is there are of course there are serious debates to be had about racism but my god the world has moved and moved fast from where it used to be you are part of the peers because you are denying my lived experience what do you mean i'm not denying now you're playing your old trick of being the victim and you played that very you immediately came out after you were fired with all the stuff about all the insults you've had and so on and so on of course you're going to get insulted i don't agree with the way they've insulted you but when you call every white person racist here's what i'm saying my mother's wife when you say i don't have the energy to talk about the racial violence of white people anymore yes all white people when you call us a bunch of violent racists all of us every come from all of us we are going to get annoyed yeah of course but look at the responses that i got that i've got how dare you call us racist you black how dare you go back to the truth of course of course you can people you don't know what racism is not taught about racism no please let me speak you can find abuse if i came in here to speak i came in here and i came in i also wanted you in here so that i could look you in the eye and say i think what you said so you're making it about you people what it's my show along with you why didn't you just sit here and talk for five minutes then and i just said you've done plenty of talking i've been watching your interviews i want you to explain why we shouldn't be offended as white people by your sentence that all white people all white people are party to racial violence because socialization has placed all white people in a certain privilege that means that if you were not dismantling racism or helping to dismantle racism and you were part of the problem because you that makes you complicit you need to actively work with people of color to put diversity which this campaign was about into place and when l'oreal fires me for speaking about the origins of racism then that goes completely against what diversity is because the reason why we need diversity is because we have racism you don't think any white people on the planet are currently doing what you've just suggested i didn't say that you by implication when you say i'm talking about australia what you're saying i'm talking about a structure that all white people sit on i'm talking about society i'm not talking about literally every single white person i'm talking about society and all white people exist within that structure do you regret the phrase you know well i'm i'm asking if you regret the form of words because of them no i don't reference words i mean i'm an activist and at the end of the day activists aren't there to go and say a bunch of stuff that people like we are there to call things out and to make change and yes i said all white people because all white people have access to the privileges um that are going to come out really you think the hundreds of thousands of people on food banks in this country white people amongst them are privileged they have more count they have more more privileges than you i did not say that i didn't wealthy supermodel i did not please show me my bank account all right you'll be able to make a lot of money out of this so let me ask you again do you think that white people on food banks in this country are more or less privileged than you i did not say that appears i said you just implied that you said that all white people had privileges let me speak please i'm saying that if a person is at three the food banks and their way and there's their counterpart and that counterpart is black that white person has more of a chance of getting out that situation than their black women where's the evidence because of white privilege right they have white people have more access to hope so housing poor water just to clarify poor white people have a better chance in britain of getting out of their poverty than than paul blackbeard yes all of them i feel like i'm up against the wall with your peers no you're not what you're up against is somebody challenging you on your public statements yes which you've managed to turn into a massive great story of your poor victimhood and i'm telling you now you're sitting here that i think when you say all white people are racially violent and that is deeply offensive and i think when you then clarify it i think it's saying that strange white guys are basically all sexist homophobes and racially violent i as a straight white guy who's not remotely racist get very offended by that and this is why there's a problem because you take it past there is a problem because i do take it personally it isn't a personal attack of course it is it's not a personal attack pierce this is why we aren't going to get anywhere with racism because we want people in the game privilege like yourself can't see past it and want to attack people when they talk about their lived experience i am speaking we've all had lived experiences all right i resent the idea that all white people in this modern era are automatically more privileged than all black people i don't think that's right anymore i think it's a complete mischaracterization of the work that's been done to counter racism around the world and i think when you as a very high profile transgender model get this amazing opportunity to have a platform at l'oreal the first thing you do i i agree the timing was not the first thing i did but it kept the first thing that comes the timeline was completely right but this is the public came out because it was uh it was an attack on my character it was taken out of context i get it i just said that but i don't understand how i'm saying that all white people are racially violent helps anyone in the race debate that's my point okay well we need to speak about why um the syllabus is so white why we are not taught about the violence of slavery in schools why aren't we on talk about the violence of um colonialism why we're not taught about the violence of the empire we are taught a white washed history kids are not taught about black history in the same way that they are taught about whites why don't you say that i did just did i did but that's not what got the headlines no because appears that it got you in the context and someone screamed and sold a story to the daily mail have you focused on why we should have more historical knowledge i did and this is what i'm saying the bookends got taken out well the bookkins were so inflammatory and offensive of course they got to know they didn't get to blaming the daily mail for what you said is ridiculous well of course you would say that appears because you work for the daily mail yes i work for them but if they were wrong i would also say they're wrong i've just quoted you back directly what you actually posted because it was taken out of context you missed out the two bits that you have i'm not sure how you take out of context that all white people are guilty of racism basic socialization and racial theory appears look it up it has been fascinating watching the debate thanks so much for joining us monroe bergdove

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Length: 10min 46sec (646 seconds)

Published: Mon Sep 04 2017

Reddit Comments

[u/Bogtrollweiner]

Wow, when did I start agreeing with Piers Morgan?

[u/SongForPenny]

"Members of X race are ALL a certain way!" <- Not a blatantly racist statement.

[u/trafridrodreddit]

Wow, sounds like a POS person

[u/redditrat99]

non-white non-binary person says something only white straight men say.

This must be a liberal tailspin.

[u/Napierdalator]

Creations of Frankfurt School start to bite their creators in the ass.

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transgender

model

Uhhhh what

[u/SmileyB-Doctor]

I feel like this guy is the asshole here... he’s jumping to illogical conclusions, talking over her, and making up her opinions. Am I missing something?