The Biggest Mistake You’re Making in Helldivers 2 - Running Away

when you're playing higher difficulties in Hell divers 2 have you ever felt like you're constantly overwhelmed that the game is just throwing way too many big armored enemies at your squad to deal with so that you're forced to run from objective to objective to survive the funny thing is the reason your team is overwhelmed is precisely because you're running away especially against the terid this is going to be a very tough pill to swallow for a lot of Hell divers but the reason why running away looks like a good idea is that very few people understand how the game's Patrol alert and enemy spawn system works and it's screwing everyone over as great as hell iers 2 is it's incredibly up toose about many of its mechanics to the extent that it's nearly impossible to learn about them unless you're specifically trying to do so and that can lead to a lot of false information going around I dove in to experiment with the system to figure out exactly what makes it all tick I found that the key to playing hell divers 2 at high levels falls into the following practices one remain undetected as much as possible two take out enemies before they can call in alerts if you can when an alert occurs a breach or drop ship call stand your ground and clear it as fast as possible in most cases if you run away during step three you will now have an unending horde that only grows with time I'm going to walk you through exactly why this is true and how to handle it many enemies in held irus 2 are painfully unaware but in the chaos of a four player Squad it's nearly impossible to notice it first of all individual POI guards ignore noise almost entirely unless the noise is very close to them if you have two pois 50 m apart the guards at one will not notice you slaughtering the guards at the other unless a stray projectile or explosion lands too close to them in fact I approached a small set of buildings that had a charger and a handful of terid I called down a Gatling Sentry tent to prep for the fight when a patrol wandered in on me from behind my Gatling Sentry and I dispatched the patrol only a few feet from the POI and the guards Were None the wiser that said patrols are a little more noise sensitive than POI guards the enemies in Hell divers 2 essentially have a detection radius around them this radius varies a bit based on the enemy type whether where they're facing and the day or night cycle however the radius is smaller if you're crouching and even smaller if you're prone if an enemy becomes aware of something they extend that awareness to other enemies near them if an enemy hears something they will move to investigate the area or even fire at the area the sound came from in the case of the automatons if you're behind cover an enemy won't see you but they can still become aware of you and aware enemy's detection radius increases and they will try and seek you out and enter combat mode if an enemy becomes aware and you're crouched or prone you may still be outside of their radius and they'll investigate but they won't always see you if you're behind an obstacle and they don't have a line of sight toward you they will investigate behind your cover but they still won't see you until they move there making a distinction between awareness and actually seeing a hell diver is important because just like enemies spread their awareness to other enemies they also spread the concept of seeing a hell diver putting the whole group into combat mode however when it comes to the terid line of sight matters even in combat mode but I'll get to that later the important thing to understand is that enemies detect you in two primary ways by actually seeing a hell diver or an enemy that already sees a hell diver enters the detection radius of another enemy that didn't see a hell diver and then alerts them this means that when when you're sprinting away from one group of enemies not only are you alerting more guards and patrols as you run by the enemies that see you are alerting other enemies as they run by aggro spreads like a virus try and think about how the terminats fan out as they chase you that is a moving tidal wave of enemies that are alerting every Patrol and guard nearby as they give Chase fun fact this also makes stalkers extremely dangerous they have a massive detection radius that can spot you even while prone and while they creep up on you they alert everything that they pass by regardless even if you somehow manage to avoid other unaware groups yourself as you run away which is already nearly impossible as stray bullets and explosions are going to land near them or hit them more are going to join the chase anyway as their allies run near them when it comes to the terminats it's not uncommon for several pois to have a charger if if two Chargers come out of a breach and you alert three others the situation devolves into an unmanageable domino effect very quickly now imagine three other players on your team also alerting enemies the same way it gets really bad really fast you can actually break the line of sight and lose the horde altogether but that's a strategy that's much more effective when playing solo than with a group with a four-player squad the moment you break the line of sight with a horde in combat mode it will likely still see another member of your team and continue chasing every charger that you ignore is added to your charger debt pay it off early or you're going to suffer there are a couple of other obtuse Concepts to keep in mind throwing a red strategen Beacon into a group of enemies immediately throws them into combat mode and reveals your exact location to them if you're behind cover they still won't have a line of sight to you and this is really important for the terid I'll get to that later blue strategems can trigger enemies awareness and and nearby Patrols in particular will make a path toward them to investigate the green defensive strategems will also trigger an enemy's combat mode however if you're hidden it does not reveal your location only the strategems such as a Sentry all this rolls into the second piece of the Fubar puzzle The Horde alert system when a bug screams and calls in a breach or when a bot shoots a flare into the sky I call this an alert either way when an alert occurs a horde of enemies swarm in there are two vital things to understand about this The Horde that comes out of these alerts is actually much smaller than you think they are and once you get one you're temporarily safe from another one first things first a whole lot of players are assuming that the surrounding patrols and POI guards that join the fry during the alert are from the actual alert they aren't they are from you and your squadmates alerting nearby enemies or a patrol wand ing in this is easiest to see with the bot drop ships if three drop ships fly in they drop a finite number of bots anything beyond that drop came from other groups alerted nearby secondly there is an invisible cooldown timer on alerts for a certain time period after an alert is called another one won't be called Bots won't shoot flares and bugs won't scream so you have two options to clear out the enemies before that cool down timer is up or run away if you run away not only are you attracting more enemies as I previously described you are allowing that alert cooldown to run out and screw you harder if you're not fighting off your attackers their numbers snowball even further because as soon as the alert cool down takes over they will call in another alert there is a maximum number of enemies that can be spawned at a time but that essentially means that when you're running away the ones you've picked off as you Retreat will be replaced indefinitely and you're always facing the maximum number of enemies at wants patrols on the other hand stop you from gaming the system so to speak patrols don't actually come from bug nests or bot Fabricators they spawn out at the furthest reaches of your vision you can actually see them popping into existent sometimes patrols are not automatically aware of you but they always attempt to walk near a player's location and especially objectives this means that you can't use knowledge of the game's mechanics to essentially roll through a mission with no s at all at least not without significant skill and teamwork patrols make running away worse since the game is continually sending out groups specifically to find you and if you're already running away that's not hard to do it leads you into getting hammered from multiple angles at once the absolute worst tactical position to be in I've spend a lot of time talking about what you shouldn't do so let's talk about some effective tactics to prevent a retreating domino effect in the first place first things first when you're under attack buckle up and clear out the enemies I'm going to be talking about Squad tactics here because the more people you have the easier it is for things to get out of hand by attracting additional groups of enemies when a termined breach occurs the worst thing you can do as a squad is scatter move together to get an angle on the breach where the enemies have to come at you from a single Direction and then dig in remember to crouch or even go prone at times for the massive boost and accuracy and carefully use your strategem especially sentries to give you an edge one or more patrols will likely wander in during the alert it's important to keep an eye on your radar map so that you can see them coming and prepare for them an entire Squad rarely has to focus on a breach or a set of drop ships at least one person should be covering the team's flanks from patrols so that you don't get Pinsir you should be able to clear an entire wave in around 30 to 45 seconds like this and you usually get to breathe for a bit afterward a luxury you never get when constantly retreating however sometimes things go wrong and it's during these times you have to stay the calmest maybe a charger breaks your front line or you weren't equipped well enough to swiftly drop armored enemies or to clear swarms if you need to kite enemies around you should do it alongside at least one other player so that you aren't caught with your pants down each time you reload you need to perform a slow fighting Retreat within the same area you started the fight in until you thin out the enemy and ultimately clear them if you run in wide circles around the area you're going to attract everything nearby and get hit from multiple angles treat every engagement area as if it's an arena with invisible barriers around it going outside that area is going to get you killed you also need to exercise your abs always be shooting as you cut enemies around you should be dropping them one by one as you do it in addition to the fact that the enemies have to die to prevent more alerts your teammates have to be able to count on the fact that you're going to be shooting for example if a teammate is being swarmed by hunters and I come to their aid I have to have 100% confidence that the very moment they run past me they're going to turn around and start shooting if I had to reload and they instead kept running I didn't save a hell diver's life I just traded mine for theirs if for some reason you can't unleash a hail storm of Liberty together you need to engage in a game of Leap Frog I shoot while you move past me and then you stop and shoot while I move past you and so forth when it comes to the terides you can't let the Chargers chase you around if you're running you're not shooting and your squad is getting scattered when a charger runs at you either step aside or dive and shoot at The Horde behind it it you have a few seconds before it turns around to charge you again this is incredibly important if you're one of the team members dedicated to horde clearing if you're getting chased in Circles by a charger you aren't keeping the Swarm off of your anti-armour oriented teammates and that means they can't get the charger off of you finally if a teammate does go down don't throw them 3 mil outside of the combat zone They will likely land right on or near enemy standing guard at another POI and instantly trigger them don't throw them directly into the horde either at least without their consent as that's rude just throw them nearby the same goes for you try to land your own hell pod close to the conflict not outside where you have no idea what's going to be near you when you land while some alerts are inevitable you can avoid a lot of them by using the knowledge of the enemy's awareness and and detection to your advantage first up when you're traveling you should have your radar map constantly open it helps you avoid patrols and shows you where nearby groups of guards are sitting while at times you will need to crouch or crawl you can actually Sprint around quite effectively when you understand the enemy's detection radius assuming you aren't already being chased secondly you can take down a lot of guard platoon in patrols before an alert is called because there are some tricks that aren't entirely obvious not all en call in alerts most heavy Bots don't and neither do Chargers Titans or biob bugs always aim for the smallest ones first you can use Eagle strikes and orbitals on guard platoon but you will rarely get one off on a patrol before it calls an alert the exception is the Eagle strafing Strike because it hits fast it won't kill all the enemies but as I said not all enemies can call in an alert remember how I mentioned that linos sight was really important for terid and aware termined will not call in an alert if they don't have line of sight to a hell diver even if they're in combat mode this is why centuries don't trigger an alert unless an enemy also sees a hell diver near one so you for example can pop a couple of bugs and when its friends come running around a corner tag them one by one and no alert will be called automatons are a bit different they don't need to see a hell diver at all and will fire a flare as soon as they enter combat mode however bot drops tend to have far fewer enemies than a bug breach this makes angles pretty important when starting your attack on an outpost or objective and communication is pretty essential to a stealth attack as a group finally if you're coming up on an objective with several pois nearby that have guards simply take them out quickly and quietly first so if somebody makes a mistake and runs too close to them or drops a strategy in the wrong place you don't alert them and get attacked for multiable angles at once the same Rings true for nearby patrols while you shouldn't fight every Patrol and should avoid them when you can one wandering around an objective area is bound to enter the fight anyway and likely flank you when they do you may as well engage them first even if they manage to call in an alert you'll have a brief respit from another one and should immediately clear the objective area afterwards before another can be called now your your stuff was too far away for me to be hell divers never retreat they simply fight in another direction that is to say you should rarely run away however there are a few inst es if you're separated from your group for example you should run away to get back to them when playing solo running away can work if you can break the line of sight from enemies smoke really comes in handy for this in fact enemies that are called in Via an alert will actually despawn if they can't find a hell diver for a while if you short on time and heading to evacuate you can Retreat the enemies are going to keep coming once it's called anyway you should still be careful about how many armored enemies you're bringing in however in fact against the terminat it's better for one member of the team to perform the Last Stand maneuver The Last Stand maneuver is where one hell diver makes the ultimate sacrifice if a horde is grown too big or the group really needs the scadaddle somewhere else one hell diver can stay behind and take a last stand against the bugs while the other three run away you simply fight and survive the overwhelming horde for as long as possible while the Swarm is focused on you the rest of the swad can break the line of sight between them if you survive long enough your squad will be long gone when you die and when they call you back in you'll be with the squad again and the terid will be left behind in Diago as a general rule the automatons are much easier to run away from the terid most of their units are lot slower if you've cleared out nearby enemies and drop ships fly in the drop off troops a fair distance away from you you can sometimes Dart away gorilla Warfare style and avoid a prolonged gunfight even in multiplayer you can also briefly run away to a better defensive position especially choke points and then hunker down and take enemies on don't just stand in the middle of an open field against the automatons for example when I'm saying don't run away I mean don't run away from enemies the entire game from objective to objective because all you manage to do in that situation is lead enemies into even more enemies running away certainly seems like a good option but the game systems work against you if you do it makes sense when you look at what hell divers presents to you you have an entire category of strategems dedicated to centuries and the game makes it very clear that your accuracy is terrible on the move you can land your shots the best when staying still crouched or even prone the real meta tactic is to form up together and liberate your enemies with overwhelming Firepower and glorious explosive ordinance hopefully these tips shine some light on some of the game's more obscured systems and help you deliver more Liberty to bot and Bug alike fortification if you enjoyed this video or found it informative consider liking and subscribing I've also left links 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Published: Tue Mar 12 2024