Richard Ramirez Interview: Night Stalker Netflix Body Language Analysis (2021)

yeah okay good good yeah because if you go black red black red as well so they won't see the two red ones in a row yeah nobody said anything yet so about the pins oh no oh i see what you're saying do it like that i just caught that if you give it time to write yeah i have to go like that yeah you got to get it exactly where it looks goofy yeah yeah i think it would look goofy no matter what yeah that's true yeah just this it works good enough to just go okay chase your turn yeah all right we've been goofing around for 45 minutes you all ready yeah here we go i'm scott rouse my body language expert and analyst and i train law enforcement in the military in interrogation and body language all right all right i'm ready that's what they're doing all right here we go i'm scott ross i'm a body language expert and analyst i trained law enforcement in the military in interrogation and body language and i created the number one online body language course body language tactics dot com with greg hartley mark i'm mark boden i'm an expert in human behavior and body language help people all over the world to stand out win trust gain credibility every time they communicate including some of the leaders of the g7 chase hi i'm chase hughes did 20 years of the u.s military i'm a behavior scientist behavior expert i teach influence persuasion and behavior profiling to government agencies and everyday folks like you greg greg hartley i'm a former army interrogator interrogation instructor resistance to interrogation instructor i've written 10 books on body language and behavior put together this body language tactics.com course with scott and i spend most of my time today on wall street and in corporate america all right well today we're going to talk about richard ramirez at ramirez and he's uh obviously a serial killer most everyone knows who he is and we're going to look at some some footage of him that greg found and there's not really any uh questioning going on he talks to reporter summit and he's giving his thoughts on some things so we're going to look at that and just tell you what we see mainly i think what we'll be dealing with is the psychopathy end of it what a psychopath looks like we're not going to focus specifically on that but we'll that will be coming up so if you're interested in that you'll find that great if you like what we're doing go ahead and subscribe because like everyone else we're trying to build our numbers just hit that little thing down there where mark is on the bottom and subscribe and you'll know when we have a new show come out which comes out every thursday unless it's wednesday if i get it done edited in time so greg why don't you tell us a little bit about the video that you found yeah so a couple of things we're not first of all here to be jury he's this guy's been convicted already died in prison but we're not here to be the jury we're gonna tell you what we see and we're gonna try to add some value to your life when dealing with psychopaths hopefully um yeah what we know about this guy and there's so much out there to read on him he killed 14 people that he was convicted of killing they don't know how many others he may have killed and attacked another 15. and he was random he was the first serial killer ever to break his whole pattern so usually pat serial killers are pattern killers they have a type he raped chil he raped children and released them he killed women killed men raped women not sure he raped any men but and he used any a plethora of weapons from a cord or liquor ligature to a tire and a hammer stomped one woman to death shot people shot him in the head shot him in the torso you name it the only method he had was he went at night kind of sneaking into your house and would typically shoot the husband if he was there and then raped the wife and children even in some cases so horrific one of the worst in the history of america and he was right on the heels of people like bundy and those guys you know because this was happening in the mid-80s and it was a short period of time i believe it was six months or so before they captured him he was captured by locals when they he was identified publicly they told it the public who he was he was in east l.a a bunch of guys dragged him out one guy him over the head with a fence post they called the police and got him so yeah and there's a whole lot about this guy this is one of the weirdest of them and you will go from there excellent all right well let's take a look at the first video did you kill 13 people it would be improper for me to comment on my alley convictions and on my pending case here in san francisco why because of my appeals are you appealing these because you say you're innocent you didn't kill 13 people that is correct you didn't kill 13 people again it would be improper for me to comment in any regard to that question all right greg you want to go first sure so for me i'm not going to cover a whole lot of body language in here i'm going to cover a lot of behavior um what i see here is what when we think about this thing we all look for called duper's delight it's when somebody is exercising authority over you or power not authority power over you and they're amused by themselves but there's a social contract and they're not willing to go this guy doesn't have that social contract he's out of whack this is a broken toy and you can see and if you if you watch this netflix thing you'll hear the librarian that he went to talk to say he smelled like urine and body odor so bad that he was terrified to deal with him and he was happy when he said i want books on torture and the occult and he said those aren't in my department why don't you go over there that's how bad this guy was so he has he doesn't have a social contract people come charismatic here's an interesting piece in a book i wrote called get people to do what you want i created a little mechanics of charisma piece and basically what i think you have to do is demonstrate value recognize an opportunity grant an audience bond create belonging and then allow the person to differentiate and you will be charismatic if you do those five things because people feel something from you this guy is in the stage where he needs nothing to demonstrate value people are coming to talk to him so he automatically knows he has authority he knows they need him they know he knows they want him and he is showing all that duper's delight kind of thing where he's showing all the self-amusement in the same way a cat would show amusement playing with a mouse this guy is a broken toy in my opinion here and if you watch him he's trying to be weird by all this night stalker stuff and mark i'm gonna quote you here he's too weird to know he doesn't need to act weird that's the problem this guy is he's got this manifesto he's going into and you see him quickly start then to go in his little manifesto and to try to use that to make people feel uncomfortable and you can see amusement all over his face and it's internal self-amusement it's not external here so that's what i've got uh mark what do you got yeah so you know given all of that though there is still some vulnerability there i think we we hear a vocal click at the start right at the start you get a before he launches into his piece so that for me signals there could be some stress around this moment even so i think we get a kind of a misdirect eye glance over to the side either to misdirect or it could be just eye blocking could be a bit of both you know first first video that i've ever seen of this person so i'm kind of building as i go along here uh lick of the lips on my appeals so it makes me start to think that although the question is about did you kill these people the focus for him is around the idea of appeal um yeah that's all i got on that one you know the interesting thing for me clearly somebody um who's who's a bad lad no doubt about it but still some vulnerability there chase what do you got yeah so there's not a whole lot of body language here in this short clip so we'll cover a couple of behaviors we obviously have my favorite thing to talk about which is the failure to make a strong positive confident denial although it may be for legal reasons and the the time in this video once you watch it again you'll see the eye contact goes from about 95 percent to 3 percent just about when he's making his false denial which is not really a denial he's just talking about that's the reason that i'm going to court i'm not going to deny it but that's what i'm going to say in court and finally i think this confirmation glance that he's doing off to his left is towards probably a legal counsel or an attorney there who's probably giving him a head nod or a head shake scott what do you got all right well what was for me what i noticed was and we see this throughout this series of videos is when he's he's saying these telling these statements that are rehearsed they're rehearsed but not practiced that's why they sound so odd a lot of people are going to say well his second language is english maybe it probably is but when he's the way he sets these things up and puts them together they're choppy and he's looking around thinking he'll say a lot he doesn't say as much in this one as he does down the road here in a few videos but every time he starts into those things these things he's rehearsed you'll see him start squirming around he starts looking around and starts backing up because he's uncomfortable doing those and as he's doing those he's showing us the the facial expressions and behaviors he thinks someone doing that would show psychopaths are shallow there's nobody in there so what he's doing is he he's taking the on the affect of somebody he thinks sounds smart so we're seeing him use words and phrases that he's gotten somewhere else i don't know where he's gotten these uh things he's put together these little phrases but he didn't write that he's he's read that somewhere i've been looking if anybody out there knows where he's getting these let me know yeah just email me the behavior panel at gmail.com because i'm it's killing me i gotta find out where he's getting these so that's what he's doing on there and we see that again we see him start squirming in things as we go throughout the videos the re the reporter could have gotten so much more out of this guy if he hadn't taken such an accusatory tone with him you know he's like well tell me about the what it's i guess it's a 70s or 80s way of of approaching something like that because it's just the worst because the first thing he's doing is he's brushed up against that ego of a psychopath and that's all they are as an ego so when you start messing with that you're going to get that defense back with them because they're never wrong and they're better than you are they're better than everybody else is so in this in this case he's moving around when you say all his stuff but then he straightens up and gets that headcock forward and starts that psychopathic stare which we'll get into in a little while um as as he's given his answers at that point and what he looks like this this it looks similar to and i don't know if i watch a lot of cat videos you know i just i love them right you know facebook or whatever it is so it's a cat video i'm gonna watch it and this looks like he's behaving like one of those feral cats when somebody tries to corner one to be nice to it they always get bitten but they're always trying to be nice to it and feed it and try to catch it and take it home and fix it you know in this case you can't fix this guy and that's the way he's acting if you go look at those videos you'll see that's that's exactly what this guy is acting like he's literally in a corner over there and this guy is attacking him so and so he's getting ready to bow up a little bit in a few minutes not bad he doesn't come across the table at or anything but we're but the thing to keep in mind is like i was saying earlier this behavior where he starts he starts squiggling around and stuff and moving his head and looking around and and trying to remember all these things all these phrases he's come up with to give this guy and if you'll watch him he's reading them off a sheet of paper in front of him he'll look down and read something and get back and madness is what you know so pay attention to that because there's nobody in there he's trying to act like someone else something else in this case the and what they'll do is usually is they'll imitate you so let me take what they see you doing or another person doing and the only the other guy is coming across like he's coming on strong so he's not going to act like that he's trying to act for the camera so and he's a horrible horrible actor as this goes along so and he hasn't rehearsed the he's rehearsed these but he hasn't rehearsed him out loud this is probably the first time he said these things out loud he's written him out and copied him from somewhere and said him over and over and over in his mind but this is the first time he's actually letting him go out loud that's another reason it sounds so odd and choppy yeah there's a piece of body language i didn't cover i thought we'll cover it over time but he does do eye accessing and it's not to recall some sound he wants to read he's it's him and this is psychopath 101 it's that internal conversation the one they do have about what to do next to manipulate the situation you can see it watch him as he does it through here it'll come up again and again as he does that uh ding and that's the only thing and then he's back to eye contact with you and then breaks eye contact and that amused smile thing he does it's this is a creepy cat here yeah all right did you kill 13 people it would be improper for me to comment on my alley convictions and on my pending case here in san francisco why because of my appeals are you appealing these because you say you're innocent you didn't kill 13 people that is correct you didn't kill 13 people again it would be improper for me to comment in any regard to that question we're good yep yep you have now entered a very rare group of people in this country you're in the ranks of charlie manson ted bundy you claim you didn't commit these murders but you're right in there now as far as everybody else's serial killers do on a small scale what governments do on the large one they are a product of the times and these are bloodthirsty times even psychopaths have emotions if you dig deep enough but then again maybe they don't do you have emotions richard no comment tell me what kind of emotions you have going through you right now i'll tell you what i gave up on love and happiness a long time ago why i i don't care to explain that said let the quote stand for itself all right chase what do you got well we see a genuine smile here and the genuine smile comes from him being mentioned in the rank of these other people and i think it was interesting that he used the name rank or use that word and one thing that we see here is he is mentioning to something in you learn in i think psychology 101 called locus of control and the way that he espouses his current condition is a result of the external environment not his decisions or who he is and as an interrogator or as an interviewer even if you're talking to a babysitter before you let them watch your kids establishing this is a way to know i'm going to get information in the future using that locus of control so when i all of us here are interrogators we know towards the end we can blame it on society we can blame it on neighbors and influence it's not your fault but you're still responsible but we don't say that second part but that's one good thing that's when we hear somebody with an external locus of control we know they're going to be a little bit easier to get a confession even though the the crimes already been done the convictions already happened another genuine smile at the were at the phrase no comment he thought that was very cute and he was amused with himself but he also has this circular speak where he says maybe they have emotions and maybe they don't maybe this maybe that then this is common with a lot of psychopaths but i think that it's not his natural speech pattern i think that he's copying other people that he has seen to present an image here like charlie manson that dude is legit crazy psychopath this guy i think is emulating some of those behaviors scott what do you got yeah i agree 100 percent and uh what the the reporter he goes he takes the taxi attack he should take on this from the beginning he puts him on a pedestal and says wow you're you're like all these people you used to read about as a kid you're one of them now and that's when he straightens up and he's coming forward and gets that head back a little bit he's like yeah man that's who i am because he's feeding that ego and that's when they start lighting up now if he'd shut up for a while he got a lot more instead of breaking in so much but he gets excited and you can hear him reading these things we can see him reading them as well looking down and then spouting them off but you can hear the way he he words things like you were saying chase you can you can tell that's not him that's that's those aren't his words that's not natural for him that's why it's so choppy and broken and he's again he's adding those what he thinks are the proper uh facial expressions and emotions to show and he starts wiggling around he's looking around moving around a whole lot every time he does that that's what he starts doing um let's but let's talk about his eyes for just a minute because we were talking about the psychopathic stare earlier what happens in this case is he's got this down but he can't help it because that's what these these things do is when you're when when if i said to you make it you know stare at me like a psychopath you might squint your eyes and try to look mean when they do it it's almost the same way as when you see anger if somebody squints their eyes at you and you're thinking you're not thinking is this kind of going to come if you're in an interrogation thing this guy's going to come over the table because he's doing this but once they squint their eyes and then you see the whites of their eyes under there that's the look you're looking for and that's what we see here his eyes are squinted but they're still getting wide there's a lot going on in there he's the there's a lot he's been triggered so there's there's there's a lot something's been fired off on there in there that makes that happen and you see that as well throughout this interview sometimes it's normal we'll see one where he looks almost like a normal person but you see just little flicks of it popping up now and then which which we'll point out as we as we go along but i think that's an important thing to pay attention to is the psychopathic stare and he looks right at him and the blinking is usually next to nothing as they do that in a bar in a in a public setting you've always heard about the second you know this i saw this guy the girls will say and i looked at him from across the room and i was you know i felt like we had a connection because every time they look up he's looking at him they don't understand that if you keep looking at somebody that's weird and that's strange they don't get that same feeling we get with you guys we were sitting somewhere and i kept looking at you that would be weird you know if i didn't look away or talk about you know do something it would be odd but they don't feel that feeling they have no ability to feel feelings because their amygdala are either gone you know they're not there they're damaged or they're this is something wrong with them uh or this don't there's nothing in there so scott you've got a great youtube video about this with uh what's her name oh gosh the girl from fairness yeah elizabeth yeah elizabeth old elizabeth what's her name from uh well thanks man yeah and that's yeah it's one of my favorite things to talk about i can gosh i can feel me heating up and getting so into it i'm going to shut up and quit quit talking but yeah so that's one of the things you want to look for is that psychopathic stare well we'll we'll move on from there mark what do you got yeah so i absolutely agree with everything there he smiles there true duchenne smile at the status race that he gets the interviewer also uses charlie manson instead of charles manson i think he's trying to add some kind of friendly association there you know charlie my mate you're like charlie maimet aren't you it's so you know bit odd there trying to win um win friendship there but i think that's what he's trying to do um i think we see jupiter's delight as well on uh do you have emotions well every psychopath has feelings if you dig a bit into it and then again maybe not i think he quite enjoys that play that he does there and enjoys what he thinks is a is a brilliant dupe it's not that brilliant but he likes it and we see the asymmetry in the face there of jupiter's delight one side of the face doing something very different from the other it's very prolonged in this case often jupiter's delight is very very quick it's super prolonged because he doesn't have to hide anything at this point was he was he got to hide you know other than he's not saying specific things because of um his um uh his appeal essentially um now what's interesting for me i think most of all is he this idea of he gave up love and happiness a long time ago he's already painting himself as a victim he's already started this process of of saying i've i've given up on love i've lost that painting of himself as a victim of circumstances and we get this heavy breath this heavy breathe out we'll see it later on as well when he talks about government so he's already setting up this idea of external factors being responsible yeah external factors now the reason i want you to pay attention to this is we're going to see that change over time that's not going to be what he says in the last few videos that we watch and there's a long distance between them but his idea up front is that these murders are not his responsibility they're already the responsibility of some external factor so keep that in mind as we uh go along and he's painting himself as the victim here and the victim of external factors uh that's what i got for you and greg what do you got yeah so it's not often that i have as much dislike for people as i have for this guy this is not so bundy bundy's a horrible murderer killed a lot of people but had a broken kind of thing but i i don't think if you probably went to bundy and ask him how much pleasure he got from x y or z he probably would say not that much i'm obsessed or something this guy's a squirrel this guy to me i don't think he's crazy by any stretch to your point chase he's trying to play the charlie crazy but he's not crazy and this guy throughout his whole trial and in now is all about creating this sense of dare of dread and terror he actually even with one of his victims said i am the night stalker i mean who says that this guy was trying to toy with people and that smile that you're right he's got dead eyes i always say a psychopath the reason our eyes look dead is because you only exist in as much as your reflection of what they're doing to you that's how they are and they get enjoyment whatever enjoyment they get from whatever they're doing whether that's physically torturing you or doing something else manipulating and working you there's something in his face that shows that he's taunting this guy he knows the guy's there and then he goes you see him do that little i agree with all of you that chin rises in pride when he's compared to these other serial killers he's got a badge now he's somebody and then he goes into his soliloquy and he starts and this sounds like something aleister crowley or somebody would write to have and create terror in the in the populace this is a guy who put a pentagram on his hand would flash it who taunted people throughout the trial this guy knows what he's doing he's just not as smart as he thinks he is is the problem so i agree with all you i think there's no body language of connection for a split second when he says well um something around i gave up on love a long time there's a human in there for a split second i see animation in the face and it pick up but i think it's manipulative and i think to your point you always use scott he's imitating how people feel not actually feeling and so this to me is just another game for this guy i think he's playing games his body language doesn't look the only real human body language in this entire thing is involuntary and it's pride when he's compared to charlie manson and ted bundy broken toy i got that's all i got for this one yeah and i yeah i agree with you guys especially you mark that one of the key things we see running through this is it's not his fault and with a psychopath or a a narcissist a hardcore clinical narcissist it's never their fault either never and what and and greg like you were saying when they what they're trying to do is show you you as they go through this he's trying to be what you are that's why you you heard matching mirroring as you go as you as you see that happening he tries to do that from the word go and tries to take on your personality type doesn't have one so it's he's there he's practiced that it can do that fairly easily when meeting people those types of things one thing that that the the phrase i came up with was when you're dealing with psychopaths you're not looking for a sheep in wolves clothing you're looking for a sheep in your clothing it's great that's really that's really important to to pay attention to because they're trying to be like you when they're trying to be like you too much say if you see that that stare from too far apart and they show up and you feel all sudden you feel like you've met this kindred spirit and everything's cool heads up not all the time every time but quite often that's that could be a real problem for you yeah i think at this point what we're seeing is that him mirroring the ideas that he's been given around society and um and systems and and systems are are at fault and all that stuff that he said further down the line he'll have gone through a prison process and a psychoanalytic process and a psychiatry process and he starts a whole different set of language and ideas as to what is at fault uh here but again it's it's still mirroring when else one last thing i want to add is not only do we get that smile and the chin raise on the idea of being charlie manson but like full postural bump like comes right right forward out of his out of his chair he almost kind of leaps out of his chair this amusement thing for me is what i imagine people saw the last time in their life for 14 people that's what i think makes him a piece of you know garbage to me but yeah as you walk through this whole thing i don't see any person in there that cares about anybody else i think it's all about his message whatever thing he's doing right now he's a big name right this is not long after he was convicted he's still on trial as you heard in san francisco because he flew to san francisco and killed somebody too he's a star in other words that's his big gig you know i'm somebody now yeah now we'll see him later once i think there's some psychoanalysis and there's prey also you're not in charge here kid kind of thing that happens to him between now and then but this guy i don't see i mean there's no remorse certainly but that amusement that self-amusement at tantalizing very taunting you is clear here to me you have now entered a very rare group of people in this country you're in the ranks of charlie manson ted bundy you claim you didn't commit these murders but you're right in there now as far as everybody else is serial killers do on a small scale what governments do on the large one they are a product of the times and these are bloodthirsty times even psychopaths have emotions if you dig deep enough but then again maybe they don't do you have emotions richard no comment tell me what kind of emotions you got going through you right now i'll tell you what i gave up on love and happiness a long time ago why i i don't care to explain that said let the quote stand for itself all right we good people people in this day and age are brainwashed and programmed like a computer and being nothing more than puppets this nation this country is founded in violence violent delights tend to have violent ends it's madness is something rare in individuals but in groups people in ages it is a rule killing is killing whether done for duty profit or fun men murdered themselves into this democracy you got it at reading your script richard but you're not much in answering my direct questions jason board what do you got thanks scott this is what a psychopath looks like when they're trying to pretend like they're a psychopath he's a different type of psychopath which i'm going to get into the medical side of this psychopathy here in in just a few videos later and we we see some thing here it's just a person who's probably developed no further than middle school and he's reading a script as you would in middle school and trying to sell it with emotion we can all go back to english class when we're reading othello or hamlet out loud as a class and trying to really sell the lines that's exactly what we're seeing here we're seeing that level of talent that's all i'll say here greg what do you got yeah i i there's not a whole lot for me here the only real body language i see here and this is typical of psychopaths remember that when we're talking about the kind of people that are going to hurt let me give you one quick manipulation point if somebody's around you and you feel fantastic and they leave and you feel like why the hell do i like this person be careful be very careful that's a good indicator you're being worked and psychopaths are good at working you because they only understand you in terms of self so they have had to learn to do this in order to interact with people so that's my red flag number one and i'll bet you that people that interacted with him if he didn't smell like horror might have had a different approach because he does all that stuff he's not as smart as he thinks he is to your point chase he's his word patterns and all that or something he's written down he's just reading see three or one piece of bodybuilding was used three times he actually illustrates what he's thinking when he actually is thinking when he raises his brows and says brainwashed programmed and computer that's the only real body language any human body language i see how this entire thing the rest of it's more this rambling trying to give you a feeling of he's got something to say and his something to say is i'm no worse than the government for killing people and the government did it to get a country started i'm just doing it for entertainment this is more lawyer stuff um i'll leave it at that scott what do you got all right um he keeps again he's removing himself from all these things it's not his fault that's the that's the thing that runs through that's the thread through the whole thing it's in his fault this is the country's fault it's the government's fault it's everyone else's faults we always raise fault at one point we'll see where he says i'm not blaming my race i'm not believing all kinds of things and he says he doesn't blame all the things he's blaming right now then he goes back to blaming those again and right after that so again he's and he's adding these statements to make him sound like there's somebody in there like there's some depth in there where there's actually nothing very very shallow very shallow and he wants to seem smarter than he is so that's that's why he keeps doing it and again we're seeing him read literally look down and read these things and then get up and see him he starts that moving around again all that squiggling around squirming like we were talking about earlier because that's the that's that's his baseline when it comes to when he's when he's saying things he didn't think up or he's trying to remember because he hasn't said these things out loud he just rehearsed him up here um and then after that he sits back and he's like yeah i just laid take that like it's some heavy stuff he's just said it's actually just nothing he just said a whole bunch of nothing and they're just statements about murder and blood and madness and who use where's madness these days you know no that was a line i think that was a line from charles mckay was it okay because it's just like it's just weird he has there's he's saying absolutely nothing like i said he was picking up books on torture and the occult there's a lot of occult talking stuff it just is mark what do you got yeah so we've got kind of political ideology coming out here you know it's ideology because with an ideologist you kind of know what they're going to say before they've started saying it once you've heard one of their rants and you give them any subject you kind of know the position that they're gonna they're gonna take and he's taken in our previous video this position of government and we heard this big out breath before he started talking about that we hear another big out breath before he comes across the idea of nation and nation being the um the perpetrator of essentially the cruelty here he's a result of government he's a result of nation he's not a result of himself that's the ideology going on there and it's literally an ideological script because he's reading it and the interviewer calls him out on that and again we get a lovely true smile true duchenne smile for him from him because i think he quite likes the interplay here he kind of likes that he thought he was doing well and then he's caught out and he likes the idea that he's been duping with this ideology and and he doesn't he's got no problem about us seeing his pleasure around playing this game with the interviewer uh but again the important thing for me is in videos one two and three and this is 1989 he has this ideology that government nations you know big the idea of big government is uh is causing the he is the result of that essentially so any any death any cruelty that happens is really the result of government and it's important to keep that uh in your mind because that will change not that it necessarily actually changes in his mind i don't think he believes any of that it's just what he's heard from other people who he looks up to in some way and he's recanting that he'll start to recount other things later on which will um be diametrically opposed to that and that's the nature of this type of person is that they will pick up on anything that's of benefit to them pick up an idea drop an idea whatever's useful to them uh so that's that's all i got on that one people people in this day and age are brainwashed and programmed like a computer and being nothing more than puppets this nation this country is founded in violence violent delights tend to have violent ends it's madness is something rare in individuals but in groups people in ages it is a rule killing is killing whether done for duty profit or fun men murdered themselves into this democracy you're good at reading your script richard but you're not much in answering my direct questions i think most humans have in them the capacity to commit murder uh it is not because no we don't richard [Music] they choose not to not because they are morally superior as they so commonly claim but because they are imprisoned in a way but responsibilities commitments beliefs and secrets and that would render murder an absurd gamble or ridiculous self-destruction all right well in this one other than sounding like a cartoon bear we see a lot of the same behaviors and a lot of the same he's saying basically the same thing and he actually looks like he's in pain as he's going through this which i found was odd since he's on tv i think he would that would be one of the things that he would love the most because it's it's a bunch of people watching him listen to him if mario would shut up instead of trying to be a star well you know that i think he would have gotten a lot more out of it it would have been a much better situation if he just let him talk then everybody could you could get more information from him and we could learn more about him by the way he's behaving and when his when his when he starts again when he starts giving these he was ready for this so he had his rehearsed answers so he looks like he has depth and it's a smart guy his his his face you know goes into a frown almost looks like pain we really don't see the the grief muscle anywhere we see it get close but we don't see grief in there anywhere like i'll do this and i've got a lot going on to not see any grief muscle because i do that all the time so so there's that so that that really i think we're seeing that the same thing just the cookie cutter uh night stalker stuff here trying to sound smart he's not smart and every time he starts doing other stuff he starts moving around so much so it's making the cameras and things lock up that's how much you're moving around greg what do you got yeah not a lot more than you have i think he enjoys his power to spew garbage and that's what he's doing and you see it and all the hey kind of self-amused thing i also however think that he i i wrote down i think he's the smartest guy he knows if you went to middle school with him he was probably that kid who was always getting into trouble because he knew more than he really did and i think that part's one piece that you can see um i did see his brow rise a little bit as he was asking but i think if you really wanted to tweak this guy you'd shut his mic off and talk over him instead of what more he's doing i would just shut his mic off so i'm not going to listen to that this guy had something planned he wanted to say he needs an audience that this guy needs an audience is all this is and i'm going to leave it at that and go to mark yeah so um another so this is 1991 we're two years later than our last um last uh videos it's another memorized treaties that he's put together but now it's very different and now pretty previously he was a result and and and serial killers were a result of society now what he's saying is everybody is a serial killer it's just society and answers that that's that pulls people back from that and he's a little bit different in that he hasn't let society pull him back from that and previously he was a a result of society now he's saying he's a result of not conforming to society a really quite different uh different ideology that he's now putting forward uh you know everybody's a murderer if it wasn't for social norms is what he's saying now there's an asymmetry again in the face and we can see it clearly now before the camera angle was at to this to the side now we've got a full face view and we can see one side of the face very very different from the other so often the idea of two emotions being held at the same time which is why it can seem really odd to be looking at that kind of kind of face i'm glad everybody's picking up on this pain in the forehead you know where the the eyebrows are coming up and these are you know this area is crunched up um i know chase would often like me to talk about rome but i'm going to go to 14th century japan instead oh yes yeah of course called no theater which was a a courtly uh ritualization of of shinto ritual there's a character a masked character they're all masked characters in in no theater one of the characters is called hanya h a i think n n y a hanya and hanya has exactly the same face as ramirez in this i want you to look it up hanya it's a demon and this demon is the result of a scorned woman it's the it's what um this japanese ritual thought happened when a woman becomes so obsessed with jealousy that they become wracked with pain that's his face at this point it's the face of a demon racked with pain and we've known about this face for hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of years um in fact in in the shinto ritual uh it's it's the kind of spirit of pain and obsession so you know taking that on i think we do have somebody here who is consistently has a level of high pain and obsession in their mind about something there's something painful going on in there i don't know quite what it is i could make some stabs of the idea but uh but certainly there's something quite aggressive uh in that mask there so that's what i've got for you look it up hanya 14th century japanese no theater and chase what do you got yeah it's a great point about the sudoku ritual there that's very good so i think some of this pain that we're seeing here is from him having to recite a bunch of stuff without any notes i think that's a genuine source of some of this it's strain coming forward of him word for word saying some of this stuff and i'll come at this from a slightly different angle and this phrase will sound funny but it's very true most people feel that most people feel the same as they do so what we're seeing if you want to know how someone secretly feels about anything ask them how they think most people feel about that thing and you'll get how they feel so his idea he i think he truly believes this fact or this opinion that everyone has this innate capability of being a serial killer deep within us but society just turns down the volume on that by giving us a mortgage i think for for lack of a well of course anything that makes me want to hurt somebody it's a yeah you ever do that paperwork and i think one thing we're seeing here is another example of how very little equipped he is for regular conversation and one thing you'll you'll see when he's going to his appeal we see people that want to get out of a trial and say i'm mentally incompetent to stand trial and as a forensic psychologist one of the ways that that a forensic psychologist determines whether or not this person's competent to stand trial is whether or not they hid what they did from other people because if they hid it and kept it in secret from others they knew it was bad and they knew not to do it and we see some of that start to come out here we're going to get into the medical aspects of this a little bit later so i'll keep mine short now so i'm going to go long here in a few minutes that's all i got i think most humans have in them the capacity to commit murder uh it is not because no we don't richard [Music] they um not to not because they are morally superior as they so commonly claim but because they are imprisoned in a way but responsibilities commitments beliefs and secrets and that would render murder an absurd gamble or ridiculous self-destruction all right we're good good yeah it's nice these things you know are contribute to a person uh to a person's frustration and anger and uh and at some point in life he explodes all right greg what do you got yeah so now he no longer has the spotlight so he no longer remember i said to be to have charisma now this guy ended up married one of his former jurors who convicted him actually spent time with him in jail you know going to visit him in that i mean crazy stuff because charisma is an odd thing but if you're going to say that charisma you need to demonstrate value he has no value at this point so he's got to connect with somebody this is the first time we see him trying to actually connect he's not self-aggrandizing and sitting back and pontificating yet he's trying to connect with this guy and you see it because you see him actually thinking thinking through what he should say and how he's going to say it and there's lots of things this could be in his mouth when he's twisting his mouth what i think it is is the equivalent of a child doing this when they color he's using he's moving his mouth as he's trying to figure out what to say and i think it's just his brain engaging and he's not sophisticated enough to sit quietly with his face down he's just done whatever he wants his whole life and here he is he's a wild child so his mouth is moving around that's my opinion um i would also say his hands are up as he's navigating internal thought at the same time his mouth is moving which tells me he's trying to figure out what to say next to connect with this guy and he's not good at it he just isn't good he does request for approval clearly the the organ of communication the organ of connection with humans when he says frustration and anger and then makes hard eye contact when he says he explodes now he's trying to make this guy want to talk to him instead of doing his pontificating about why the ocean's blue he's just trying to get this across so he can connect with a guy and this is the most human i think we're going to see him period that's my opinion um scott what do you got i agree i think it's the first time he looks like a human he's not so don't be fooled but i think it's the first time he actually looks like he's talking about things he's thinking of he's i'm sure i'm sure he he might have come in here with a bunch of stuff ready to go we may that we may not be looking at that part of it but in this in this instant he's not doing that squirming around as he's as he's talking no matter what he says he's just sitting there thinking you can see him looking around his his eye movement is a lot more predominant than this than the other ones he's not going sometimes they go to one spot and freeze that's the creepy part so i don't know what what's going on there but here you see him actually looking around and talking and thinking so i could agree with you 100 percent this is what he's actually thinking and he's he's whether he's trying to connect or not i don't know i can't tell but he he he looks almost human at this point to me chase what do you got so we see a lot of solid emotional dialogue internal emotional dialogue accessing here i think that's the number one eye movement that we're seeing here but we see this third person removal a person a man someone does this someone goes through this so we're removing it but i think this keep in mind this isn't you're not watching an interrogation you're watching a sales pitch and the way to make things more relatable to people is not use the word you not use the word i or susie or thomas you just generalize it in a third person you them they someone and it makes it easier to sell things because it's generalized when you do hypnosis for example clinical hypnosis or stage hypnosis it doesn't matter you use vagueness as a way to make the person's subconscious fill in the gaps of that story with their own memory and it makes it more real for them so this is a way that he probably has learned very i'm certain that he's learned this unconsciously but he's learned to generalize these things as an interrogator that's a very good data point for me because when i close him when i close the sale or get the confession or i need more information i'm going to say it's so easy for a person to i know there's a lot of people that came in here who thought x y and z i'll use the same type of third-person removed language to sell him or close him on the interrogation and that's all i got scott all right uh i've already gone is that everybody no it's me okay sorry mark so chase don't throw it over to mark and that's all i got mark yeah so let me give you uh potentially another idea around why this distancing might be happening because i agree there's there's lots of distancing talk there um so he's talked about these things he's now got some contributors to the the issue the problem the the the psychopathy that happens i went back in the interview bits that we haven't seen there and he's talking about abuse poverty drugs some other other elements as well um but he says these things contribute to a person and when he says a person he does an eyebrow raise look for approval but then he shows disdain so it's interesting he says here's some things that contribute to a person to a personality and i want you to agree with that at the same time he doesn't seem to agree or like the idea of the person a personality um and he talks about that it builds frustration and anger and then it explodes so you get a shattered personality so the idea of a shattered personality is is like there's lots of versions of us there's the me when i was 14 the me when i was four there's the me when i talk to my mum there's the me when i talk to my kids it's all the same person but there's some slight differences between us all it's not different personalities aspects of personality and some people would say if if those aspects aren't able to get connected with each other they don't know each other exist or they have fights with each other the personality shatters and when the personality personality shatters i just don't know who i am anymore or i'll get with one person and i'm the completely different person than when i'm with that person there if the if the facets are connected it's kind of a more whole person well he says he exploded he shattered so i don't think he reckoned that he knows what his personality is anymore even if he did in the first place he doesn't have anything really solid to hang on to and so he's finding it hard to locate himself know who he is and therefore he doesn't know who's meant to take responsibility for this so at the moment he's gone again there's some external factors here abuse poverty drugs that caused my personality to break up and i'm distancing myself because i don't know who's responsible that's one idea now at the same time he's probably heard stuff like i've just told you and and he might be just regurgitating stuff like somebody like me told him in prison this guy's head's a drum and whatever bounces on it comes out of it that's my opinion of this guy if i had this guy in an interrogation room i'd treat him like classic malignant narcissist and i would say wow it's impressive that you killed that many people in this short period of time and got away with it for a long time and then once i got him to the point where he started smiling again i'd say but you're you're an idiot here's what you left behind bam bam bam bam and i start picking on him and poking him until he just could not take any more because i think you're dead on mark he somebody has told him this stuff and what they're really good at is regurgitating what you show passion for yeah great mimics yep these things you know are contribute to a person uh to a person's frustration and anger and uh and uh at some point in life he explodes all right we good yeah let's move why on earth would you have hurt those people why did you kill those people i know no comments i i cannot answer that at this time all right jason bourne you want to go first you bet i think people tend to assume that psychopaths are highly intelligent there was some research in 1976 that suggested this but there's been brand new stuff in 2003 and 2005 from margaret care and peter johansson who proved that actually the opposite is more likely than not to be true so they will have a lower level of intelligence and we see that it's very apparent here with this low-level ability in language and general social relatable skills which an intelligent psychopath can get very good at those things we call that mask painting or mask creation whatever you want to call that i think that's that's notable here that we are seeing a psychopath with low-level intelligence trying to come across and borrow credibility and borrow authority from the people that he's been reading and keep in mind he grew up during the time of a cult called est which was really big in the 1970s i think in up to the mid 80s that was a big self-help movement that had a lot of this new age stuff and it it dabbled into this occultic stuff and it could probably let him in that direction if he was exposed to that and we see him just quoting a lot of things that are very similar to both of those and in the next video we'll expound on what psychopathy really is and how he is absolutely different from most of the others greg what do you got yeah it's back this is the guy this is the same guy this is the same empty wagon i'm telling you this guy if if he were honest he would say i killed these people because i could it's a power thing it's a you can see it you can just see it in him because once he gets back to the point where he has value it's the charisma thing again once he has value he's going to grant you an audience he's going to realize the opportunity to grant you an audience this is i didn't make up a formula for charisma i watched people and understood what they did and wrote down the steps because i'm a big believer anything i can write in steps you can learn to do and he's doing innately what and i'm not calling any of these people psychopaths but people who are on the wrong side of the political spectrum to like bill clinton love bill clinton and every one of them i interviewed all these ops guys would say when i met him he was this person who was bigger than life to start with he realized that i wanted to talk to him he gave you know he started talking to me he didn't just talk to me it was a big production then he bonded to me and then he let me tell him something about myself this guy instinctively is doing this stuff he doesn't have the ability to do the normal stuff like bond with you because he's a broken toy now whether there's a psychopath a nut job whatever you want to call this guy he's a dangerous guy because that when people went to talk to him later somehow this guy lived through life they said he always had money he always had money for drugs but watch him his intake guy and you guys all know i care about that that intake eye the one eye that's dominant on your body is getting smaller and then suddenly he's back he's back he gets his power back light comes back to his face that amusement he gets to be now he's the night stalker again he's not some poor guy that had to make connection with this guy he breaks eye contact he covers his mouth his duper's delight the big joker kind comes out and he's self-amused and he's got the illusion of evil back he does that eye thing that you know taffy pulling thing with his eyes and all that kind of stuff he's back to his product and that's what i see uh scott all right yeah i agree with you and this goes back having having you having said that it goes back to what mark says as well when you look at it's almost like multiple personalities in some cases this isn't a multiple personality situation but what i'll do is i'm going to go this is because this is the perfect video for that i'll grab a screenshot and i'll show you if you look on one side of his face i'll make it really big and i'll have it up for you one side of his face you see one personality you see you see one expression on the other side of the face that's where that psychopath's hadn't hiding because you see that's like a psychopathic stare in one side of his face and once you start noticing that from from this day forward uh joe navarro did it though the first time i ever saw i was like oh god you got to be kidding me if you look at someone's face a lot of times or quite often especially and there are specific famous people that he did this with as well but you can see one expression on one side and one expression on the other side and that's what we're seeing here so once you start looking for that excuse me you'll be able to to spot that quite quite easily so i'd so y'all are dead on spot on for that so we're seeing the psychopathic stare if you're into micro expressions this is a great one for you you've probably already spotted this at the very top when you first ask if if you know why did you kill these people you see his eyes squint just a little bit you see his eyes go up and you see just a little bit of a smile right there little t the smile lasts longer than squint lasts but he's getting back into that character because he goes oh there's me all right we're talking about me now this is what i do let's let's get ready for this because now he knows it's show time because that's it that's his thing right he's just his go-to is being a psychopath and he starts taking on that persona again like mark was saying you see him act he shoot there he boom there he is he's become that thing one more time and then when he looks at the camera you really know he's like yeah here i am i'm back i'm back that's what i'm doing and he starts that fidgeting again because he's he's saying things that he's read somewhere and he's tried to remember and he's regurgitating what he's what he's read so there there are as far as psychopathy goes these are classic hallmarks you're seeing in here from the expressions to the micro expressions to the full-on expressions to everything now i wondered about that that big smile he was doing because when it sounds like somebody's shutting the door or something when he does that he looks like he's looking at somebody he knows which that may not be but that's how that's how big that smile was so if he's not connecting with somebody or seen somebody knows come in for some reason or something that right there should show you alone there's something really wrong with this guy because when you start talking about killing people when we when we smile start laughing about that when we see it completely different thing going on there that when somebody asks you if you killed someone and you start smiling or why did you kill someone you start smiling but but that's when he that's when again it's show time for him so that's when he puts it on and says okay here we go it's you know lights camera psychopath that's where he's that's where he pops up and he's ready to go my guess is there was a response from the person who's interviewing him when the door slammed they jumped that's the smile ah okay because i knew it was because it didn't it didn't happen timing-wise on that the way it should have because when he looked he'd start smiling looked away then then came back so i guess he had to check the door as well to see what that was or connect that way with the guy so the or the interviewer or the woman whoever it was interviewing at that point or i guess it was a guy sound like a guy all right mark what do you got uh yeah so um i think you know regardless of whether he is smiling at some at some other thing going on i think we see enough of a micro gesture of a smile up front right at the start when he's asked what essentially why did you do it um i think there's true pleasure there and then he tries to mask that i think that's all that's happening is he's masking the true pleasure if i were to make a gamble on it that i think i would win i think he just enjoys gets pleasure from it i think it's good fun for him um and he says i cannot answer at this time so he does know why so it's not something that's completely unconscious to him i don't think he flies into a rage and it just happens and it's all over and it's like wow what happened there i think he's totally conscious he knows why uh i think it's it's it's pleasure and and i think to chase his point there of um psychopaths and intelligence you might go well hang on if they're if they're so stupid how come they get away with stuff but they're non-conformist remember the rules of society we have to join in and we have to kind of self-manage ourselves there's not enough sheriffs in the world you know to lock us up if we're doing bad stuff so we kind of we we moderate we we moderate ourselves we have a part of our brain which moderates our behavior and when it goes a little bit too far the moderator comes in and goes you know what you're doing kind of a bit too far there you remember there are some rules out there there's some theories that he just doesn't have that moderator in there the psychopaths don't have that moderation element and so they just don't moderate and so they get away with a whole bunch of stuff because they're not self policing and there aren't enough police out there to police them so they just get away with stuff and they don't have to be smart you might go but hang on there's all those psychopaths that have kind of been really successful and had incredible businesses and they must have been really smart no there are really simple business ideas that basically anybody could do and make a whole heap of money out because it's just a really simple business idea and also they're not self-moderating with the rules either so they're not you know playing by the same rules as everybody else so they are very successful um yeah uh chase i think you got something for us on uh on joe navarro's piece about asymmetry as well yeah so that article was called chirality or that that topic that that joe talks about is called chirality and that article is absolutely fascinating i have it bookmarked and i only have like 15 things bookmarked in my whole computer i've got a bookmark we'll leave it below in the video description for you guys yeah i don't know whether joe explains in that what chirality means but it's from a greek word which means that things look the same two things that look the same but they're actually quite different which i think is a lovely you know idea that the greeks would come up for a word just to describe that moment where two things at first glance look the same but actually they turn out to be quite different it's a great word excellent why on earth would you have hurt those people why did you kill those people i no comments i i cannot answer that at this time all right we're good yeah let's move along they are desires whereas if where if i didn't give in to them i would be crushed by them i believe in the in the evil in human nature this is a wicked wicked world and uh in a wicked world wicked people are born i'm not going to blame society my race or people or anything [Music] it is up to the individual like myself to to keep on knocking on whatever door they want to get into uh greg what do you got yeah i'm gonna be real short on this one he's back he's back he's just the same guy he's pontificating he's got his audience he's doing exactly what he wants to do he's back into his now he is however looking for an excuse i think he's finally actually calling out a real excuse hey i don't know why whatever i did this guy he actually is taking on some responsibility this shows mark to your point the years of the law enforcement side having their hands on him he's in a cage he's got to behave a certain way there's probably also likelihood that he might have taken a little by some other prisoners because you can't assuming he was mixed in with him i think he was on death row the whole time you can't treat prisoners the same way you treat people on the street for a couple of reasons i mean one of the things you just brought up in the last session where we're talking about psychopaths don't know what they're supposed to do they're not part of the social contract the reason they get away with things is because they're not fearful they just walk around and they don't show any body language that says it in the same way you can go in a place that doesn't allow pets and have a dog under your arm and walk right past the front desk if you don't show any body language associated with it because people don't people are pattern finders they look for something that's an outlier and something that's wrong if you act like it's normal it is normal and normal to this guy was breaking into people's houses and doing all that kind of craziness so i he pontificates he's suddenly the priest of this religion that he's come up with over his time and i i think that's just more of the same more of a way to make people feel a certain way whatever kind of control he gets and that's it this is an empty this is an empty bucket right here that's how i feel about this guy when i see him chase what do you got yeah when he's going through his little spiel here he's saying you can't blame society or you know all this other stuff when he says people he doesn't mean it so i think there is some definite meaning to blaming people for him and as an interrogator all of us do something called theme development and this theme development is it's kind of i'm going to rationalize the action i'm going to project the blame i'm going to minimize the consequences minimize the seriousness yadda yadda but that as an interrogator i see that people is a real strong point for him right here that's now going to be a main central part of my theme if i'm in conversation with this guy and there's more generalized language here i'll appeal to more people i'll probably look a little bit smarter and i think this is unusual case because there's a a doctor that worked on this case his name he was a psychiatrist named michael stone and the reason he said that he was different than people like ted bundy or charlie manson was this guy was a made psychopath and not a born psychopath and they used a psychopathic measurement test and let's let's throw this out there right at the beginning psychopath is not a medical term nor is it a psychological term in the u.s according to the dsm-5 which is our kind of our psychological bible to diagnose mental illness it's it's very very tightly wound up with antisocial personality disorder but this test that they use is called the pclr or the psychopathic checked list and the r just stands for revised because it was a new one since the first one was invented and he hit a lot of these markers on here but he had a rough life growing up and i think that he he was also this is a fact he was also diagnosed with schizoid personality disorder which is a real disorder it sounds ridiculous and that is a disorder where it prevents us from forming or desiring to form attachments with other people and i think this added to the fact he was a maid psychopath but this also added to the fact that he was able to detach so cleanly from doing a lot of these crimes and it wasn't because of craziness per se it was because of an absence of something so when you're sitting at a stoplight and it's a red light there's nobody around it's maybe one o'clock in the morning there's no cops anywhere why don't you run the light and that's your conscience and our conscience lives in the limbic system and the limbic system in our brain if you look right here behind me it's kind of right down in this little area if you stick your fingers in your ears you'll be pointing at it that's the part that gets most heavily affected when you have disorders like this mark yeah so um here's now his his philosophy is it's the nature of humans to be wicked and so he's as chase was saying he's gone from he's a result of society to well you know everybody is like this uh but society represses that he's gone from that to going then it's the nature of humans to be wicked and by the end of it all he actually says it's up to the individual like myself so he names himself it's up to the individual like myself to keep uh knocking on whatever door they want to get into and so at this point uh 1993 so we're quite a distance from those first ideas he comes up with naming himself as an individual and naming himself as the person responsible for knocking on doors and seeing what's on the other side of them now to chase's point of of you know you'll remember he mentioned um est and uh that was that idea was designed by a guy called uh werner earhart and um it was one of the first people to come up and popularize the idea of authenticity kind of the idea of like being yourself well what he's kind of done is taken that to quite an extreme by going yeah if i if i feel like you know knocking on the door of of serial killer and it opens for me why not and you get the same kind of ideology with with some occult literature uh you know do whatever you like do what what that will do whatever you like be the person you want to be now if you're on the right side of conscience that could go really well for you if you're on as he says you know the wicked side of conscience then that could be horrible for anybody else who's around you and that's what we've got here so very different set of ideas at this point which comes down to i think the idea of he's saying um you've got to destroy or it will destroy you his personality is to destroy and if he were to suppress that he would be destroyed so he's now in quite an epic battle between what he wants to do you know what he really wants and suppressing that it's life or death for him in order to live he must kill it's an extraordinary situation uh it's not a character i want to meet uh any time let alone in the dark alley somewhere there that's what i've got for you uh who we got left scott me yeah scott where you going so um i think the first part that he's talking about that's him talking i think you're right i think that's him talking saying exactly what he thinks and i think that was his problem was if he couldn't do these things it would it would tear him up it would destroy him however destroying means or whatever he thought that that meant being a voice telling that or whatever it is then you're right he's right back to the same old rhetoric that's right it's back to showtime again he's back being that guy they are desires whereas if where if i didn't give in to them i would be crushed by them i believe in the in the evil in human nature this is a wicked wicked world and in a wicked world wicked people are born i'm not going to blame society my race or people or anything um it is up to the individual like myself to to keep on knocking on whatever door they want to get into since we're talking about psychopaths and psychopathy let's go through a couple things people can go look for when it comes to psychopaths there's a guy named robert hare robert d hair he's got a book called without conscience read that book or listen to that book that that'll that tells you everything there's a guy named john ronson he's a writer but he does this tedx talk or a ted yes a tedx talk that is just fascinating it's really good i'll give you a heads up give you even deeper understanding of the psychopath test and that's what this thing is called the psychopath test or something about something just look up john ronson psychopath test on for a tedx talk or ted talk fascinating really really good explains it really really well and tells about his experiences uh in that in that world also so uh jr uh i was gonna go to the jason bohr thing again so chase what is the uh who do you use for your main person when you're building the theme do you go back to the same person every time do you have your like for example when i when i start a theme i go into andrew connor my old my old roommate from from uh boston where i lived there in college and i started out well you know this reminds me of my roommate andrew he did in other words he did something like this it's kind of like what you did but he got away with it and i don't know you know i was surprised at that and so i go through the do you have a guy and greg do you have a guy yeah i'll i'll go really quick i have some tricks that i use around this okay we're more likely i'll have some that i won't share but we're more likely to associate and identify with people whose first name starts with the same sound or letter as our own so if i'm talking to you scott i tell you about my friend stephen i'm talking to greg and i'm saying i've got a friend gary who uh does whatever and mark i've got a friend named uh matt who did xyz so my theme person will be okay greg what are you who's yours i like that i don't start that way what i start with is what who they remind me of because i can bake that pretty quickly right if there's some attribute whether it's physical like if a guy is very very fit then i'm gonna go that way and go with somebody i know there so i don't have a single person i have genotype if you will you know and if you see enough people all of us put people in those boxes and so i got five or six folks yep okay cool cool all right so uh there it is again if you like what we're doing go ahead and subscribe and you'll know we have a show come out they'll let you know and hit that little bell down there i want you to subscribe so it'll send you a little alert when you do that and uh is anybody else got anything they want to add we're good to go oh i will add one thing um you know what uh we've been talking a lot about psychopaths uh the reality is is that one at the level of ramirez is so rare you're really never gonna meet one so sleep well it's gonna be okay uh they're rarer than entertainment would have you think and they're not all violent many of them just have messy lives that's yeah yeah completely all right well there we go there's another one they can fellas i'll see you next time bye now is

Channel: The Behavior Panel

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Id: moKoQPAyrWs

Length: 76min 10sec (4570 seconds)

Published: Wed Jan 20 2021