- Welcome back to some mind
blowing Reddit stories. I'm Shayne, and today's
theme is all about gaming, gaming stuff. And joining me are two of
the best gamers I've ever met in my life. Ian Hecox and Damien Haas. - I'm both of them. (everyone laughs) - It's true. I am the guy that won the 1989 Super
Nintendo World Championship. - You're that Ian Hecox? - I'm that- - You're the wizard? - Of the Hecox Three? - All right, well, I guess
this is all about people who are in sticky situations. It involves gaming or
gaming adjacent things. - Okay. - I feel like gaming in my
life has been pretty peaceful. Never had any bad stories. I've never pissed someone off
through gaming, I don't think. - I feel like I've broken
your mind in "Mario Party" when we were roommates. - That's true. Okay. Yes. Actually, I take it back. There's been times in "Mario
Party" and "Super Smash Bros." But still there's a level of
respect and understanding, and once the game is
done, everything's cool. But yes, during "Mario Party"
when we were roommates, it got brutal. It got brutal. Ian? - Ian? - I did used to play shooters online, so there was a lot of
rage directed towards me. - Ah. - Probably because I was not good enough. - Oh. (Shayne laughs) - Well, let's see what
kind of idiocy these people have gotten themselves into. Here's our first story. "Am I the asshole for
proposing to my girlfriend "with a video game relic instead of a ring "and refusing to buy a ring after?" - Hmm. - Ooh. - Well, hold on. We gotta figure out what
kind of relic this is. It could be- - Yeah. - Could be ET. - Is this "Final Fantasy XIV"? Because there's some good
ways to propose in that one. I've seen it. Let's see. - Oh, okay. "My girlfriend and I met
in a 'Skyrim' meme page." - Oh Christ. - "In 2014 and have been
together for six years." - People say romance is dead. (everyone laughs) - Take notes, fellas. - "Skyrim" meme page. - Yeah, man. - That's rough. - That's, wow. Okay. "Last week was our anniversary, "and I decided I wanted to propose. "Since we met via 'Skyrim,' "I thought I would propose
with the Amulet of Mara, "which is the symbol that
someone is ready for marriage. "She doesn't really
wear jewelry or anything "and has never shown me a ring she likes "when we've talked about marriage, "so I thought it'd be
sweet to have something "that brought us together. "I set up this whole picnic
with our favorite things, "and when I proposed, she looked
sad and asked about a ring. "I told her I thought the
Amulet of Mara was sweet "because we met via 'Skyrim.' "The other day, she sat me down "and said she thought
the amulet was very sweet "and she liked it, but she
wanted to go ring shopping. "I told her I had already
bought the necklace "and I didn't see any reason for a ring "since I didn't propose with one. "She said she appreciated
the sweet gesture, "but she really wanted a traditional ring. "We got into an argument, "and it's been tense the last few days." - Okay, well, I think like, look, if you're gonna
keep it within world, like give her the Amulet of Mara but also give her like 200 pounds of junk that she has to hold onto. (everyone laughs) - Yeah, a lot of brooms and bowls. - Yeah, yeah. - You're like, "I know I'm
gonna need these at some point." - Yeah, and she needs to have
a good armor set, you know? At least one of the higher up ones. - She's sworn to carry your burdens. - She should call you
Jarl or you call her Jarl. - Right. - One of you has to be the
housecarl in the relationship. Now look, I've seen people
propose in interesting ways, like I've read stories
like this where, you know, in "Stardew" you have the mermaid amulet. I've seen people like
get those and be like, "I proposed that way and
we were on the beach." - Yeah. - And like I think that's really sweet. But this boils down to
a lack of communication with your partner where like if you're
thinking about marriage, it might be like, "Oh, that's so funny. "I talked about marriage with you "and now those ads are
popping up with the algorithm. "Look at this ring. "Isn't this crazy?" Like, you should do a
little checking in first. - Yeah, or put out feelers of like, "Man, it'd be crazy if I proposed "with the Amulet of Mara, huh?" Or something like that. I don't know. My take on this story is I
don't think he was an asshole until she said, "Hey,
that was really sweet, "but I'd really like a traditional ring." And he's just like, now he's deciding no, and he's getting in an argument. It should have been like, "You're right. "I'm sorry. "I thought that would be," and she's even saying like,
"It was sweet and I liked it. "I just want to have a ring." And it's like at that
point you go, "Okay, cool. "Like, let's do it." - I think they'll both be
fine with a little bit of time because at least as it's presented here, I don't think either of
them would be the asshole. She's entirely like
valid for wanting a ring. Like, if you want something a
little bit more traditional, that's understandable. But also when we hear stories about this, it's often like they didn't
put any thought into it, they didn't do whatever. Like, he put in a lot of thought clearly. It was something meaningful to them. It was a picnic, it was all these things. And so right now it's
probably less about the ring and more like, "Oh, my feelings are hurt. "Wasn't this enough?" - Right. - And then later he'll be
able to actually look at it and be like, "Oh, I should
probably get a ring." You know?
- Yeah, for sure. No, it's understandable. They met via a "Skyrim" meme page. I think all of that's fine. - Yeah. It could have been worse. I was like, "Did she give her
like the helmet with horns?" - Ooh. - But no. No, I mean, I think it's
a very cute, sweet gesture and very thoughtful. But when she signaled that
she would also like a ring, then maybe that's a conversation
that you should be open to. - Right. - But also that necklace
probably wasn't cheap 'cause they probably had
it like handmade on Etsy or something like that. - Yeah, for sure. - For two, 300 bucks. - Yeah, and if they did have
that done, like, you know, there's a world where they
could have had a ring stylized after the Amulet of Mara
or something like that. But, you know, if they spent
thousands of bucks on it, I get it. I would understand the
frustration of like, "I can't do both." But I also know a lot of couples are like, "Screw the ring cost. "We all know diamonds are
inflated artificially anyway. "Like, let's do moissanites,
which is cheaper I think, "and sterling silver. "And it's just a symbol and it's cheaper." Like, I don't know. - Absolutely. Absolutely. It seems more like she just
wants the actual like physical, like the traditional thing. - Valid. - It's not a matter of value or price. The verdict on Reddit was asshole and- - Oh, come on. - I think that's about how he reacted. - Yes. - I would agree with that. - I don't think that's
about the initial gesture. - He's being one right now, and I hope he's less of one very soon. - Some comments here are
like, "You're the asshole. "She nicely expressed her
appreciation for the gesture, "but also wants a ring. "She was kind and mature about it. "If it's a money issue, "split the cost of both pieces
of jewelry or something. "But it's not an insult to
want an engagement ring." Someone else said, "Sorry,
you're the asshole. "What you did was very
thoughtful and sweet, "but you became the asshole "when you refused to buy her a ring." - I agree. - "Any friends and family
are honestly going to laugh "when they see what
her engagement ring is. "A prop from a video game. "Stuff like that is not timeless. "She will not want to wear
that in 10, 20 years time. "Please get her a ring." I'm a little like back
and forth on that one. - It's already been 10 years time. - [Shayne] Right. - Of "Skyrim." - They'll keep releasing new versions. - I'm a little back and forth
on that 'cause I'm like, if it was meaningful to her and she did want like that Amulet of Mara, it's like then that will be
meaningful 30 years from now, 'cause like- - I hear what you're saying though. - And the meaning is just there. But she's saying what would be really,
truly meaningful is this. And it's like if you really
wanna be married to this person, then you need to acknowledge
that and agree on that. - I think he's an asshole for
doing like a flat out refusal. I think they need to compromise
on cost or whatever it is. And his feelings are hurt. He needs to take time,
process, get over that, and not be a jerk about it. And also like, yeah, they, if
it's like a big ass amulet, like that doesn't go with every outfit. Like, it's kind of nice to
just slip on a little thing as opposed to like, "Oh, you've
got your medallion again." It's heavy.
- That is a very good point. Yeah. We have an update. - Oh great. - They're both dead. - Oh no. (everyone laughs) - Guys, she died. - The Dark Brotherhoood- - I was gonna say it was
the Dark Brotherhood. - I'm so sorry. - No, no. We were both there. We were both there. - Dark Mother, Dark Mother. - Guys, a jester killed her. - Listener! You should have listened to her! Sorry. - A dragon ate her. - If I had a nickel. - Well guys, here's an update for you. She's the Dragonborn. Just kidding. All right. "Well, here's an update for you. "We got married." (Damien gasps) Yeah. - She said I Fus Ro Do. - Whoa! Yo! "I realized pretty quickly
after posting my original post "that I was the asshole "and my feelings were
hurt because I'm an idiot. "So we picked out a ring together, "and in what we decided,
'Hey, let's just elope.' "So we both picked out a
ring, and now we're married. "Thank you to everyone "who tried to knock some sense into me. "I am very happy with my wife, "and I'm glad we both got what we wanted. "She also wore the
amulet as we got married, "but she didn't want me to post any "of our actual wedding
photos on the internet, "so I'm just posting the rings. "That's it. "We're happy. "A ring was bought, "and now we're just enjoying
nerdy married life." That's the best ending.
- I love that. - Wow, happy ending on Reddit. - Yeah, I know. It's rare.
- Don't see that very often. - Yeah. - Okay, so we had a happy
ending on Reddit there for them. Apparently he posted
the photos of the rings, but he took them off because people were making
fun of his wife's hands. So our- - Is she a Khajiit? (everyone laughs) Is that the problem? Is she a cat person? - They could tell years
of skooma use, you know? - So our faith in Reddit was given and then it was taken away swiftly. - Yep. Reddit always taketh away. - I think that's the lesson here is like process your emotions,
process them with a friend. Don't be like, "I'll show you," and then go to Reddit and expect like, "These people will help me figure it out." - Yeah. - But do so we keep having content. - Okay, next story. This is a 21-year-old guy. "My girl-"
- Asshole. (everyone laughs) - I mean, yeah. - Probably. - [Ian] Probably. - "My girlfriend, who's 23, "her obsession with 'Pokemon'
is embarrassing me." Let's see how- - I stand by it. - Okay. This comes from Relationship Advice. - Let him cook. - "So my girlfriend loves 'Pokemon.' "Sometimes when we go out, she
will ask me if it's all right "if she checks for some
PokeStops on 'Pokemon Go.' "When someone we know
talks about 'Pokemon,' "my girlfriend gets really excited "and wants to be friends
on 'Pokemon Go' right away. "She also has many 'Pokemon' plushies, "all of them in our shared bedroom. "At first it was cute, "but my friends are
starting to make fun of me "for dating a child. "My girlfriend is very mature
and an amazing partner, "but when I brought it
up how her obsession "with 'Pokemon' is
embarrassing for her age, "she felt insulted and told me her liking "and playing 'Pokemon' is no different "than me playing 'League of
Legends' and 'Minecraft.' "Still my buddies are making fun of us, "and I'm afraid she will get
hurt once she hears them. "What should I do? "How can I convince her "she should maybe tone it down a little? "My friends are visiting us, "and I'm sure they will make fun of her "once they see all of her plushies." - Ian, you wanna take this one? (Shayne laughs) Need to cool down. - Oh man. Gosh. Your friends suck. Stop caring about what other people think about your girlfriend because it sounds like he
doesn't have an issue with it. He just has an issue with everyone's perception
of his girlfriend. - Yeah. - And that's somehow reflecting on him. - Right. - Like, liking Pokemon
doesn't make you a child. - [Shayne] No. - And he said so himself, like he plays "Minecraft"
and "League of Legends." And it's like "Minecraft,"
like they're games. Like, "Pokemon" is games. - These are also games
that have been around for over a decade, which
means I know so many adults who are like big fans of these games. - Yeah.
- Absolutely. - We have so many people, I mean, also in our field, I guess it's just far more normal. Like, I feel like it's almost
rare for me to meet people who aren't obsessed with
some aspect of pop culture in that way.
- Yeah. And also like for him to say like, "Oh, she lights up when she
hears about somebody else's-" - Like, duh. - Yeah, it's like, yes,
that is called an interest. (Shayne laughs) And you should like foster
your partner's interests and, you know, and encourage that. - That makes me so sad 'cause I forgot about that
line specifically of like, "Oh, she lights up when
she gets to talk about it." It's just like, "Hey babe,
the boys are coming over. "Can you stop a major
part of your personality "that gives you joy? "I'm worried what they'll say about me." Like, again, I was joking
before, but like 21-year-old guy, he's not confident enough in himself. If you love your partner
and your friends are like, and it's not like your partner's
hurting you in any way, and your friends are like, "I can't believe your
partner likes this stuff," you'd be like, "Oh, actually
you can go (beep) yourself "because that's the person I love." Like, it doesn't matter what, it could be Barbies, who cares? - Yeah. - And like also, like you said, it's old enough at this
point that like my nephew who's like the age where, you know, kids finally start getting
like joints, you know, they don't just toddle at you. They can like walk up and
sometimes they know language, and you're like, "Oh shit. "Okay, yeah, let's talk." He just got his first ever "Pokemon" card, and I was so excited to
like talk to him about it and share interest and be like, "Do you know what that means?" And he's like, "It means it's like this." I'm like, "That's right, dude. "Like, that's great." Like, it's so fun, and
it's multi-generational, so like I don't know. That's so sad. - It is sad. - I think also like, you know, to I guess put this in like gaming terms. - Please. - He's basically like, if he continues down
this path of like trying to prevent his girlfriend from pursuing and expressing her interest,
he is speedrunning resentment. - Any%. - Yeah. You're very right. - Like, let's not, you
know, kid ourselves here. Like, something like "Pokemon," something like "Minecraft"
you can enjoy at any age. Same with the Disney movies. Like, you know, all the
Disney princess movies, you can enjoy them at any age. They are made for children initially, but they can be enjoyed by everybody. It's the same across the board
with all things like that. "Minecraft" is no different. So if he's like, "Well, it's childish," it's like great, you better
stop playing all video games. It's rated E, get it outta there. - Yeah. It's very freeing and it
makes life so much more fun when you don't judge people
for the things they like. - Yeah. - And you appreciate that
everyone likes different stuff. - Do you know how many
Chansey plushies I have? My favorite and the best Pokemon. - You have multiple of one plushie? - Two Chansey, one Blissey. (Shayne laughs) - I just say, I'm like, "I
don't wanna judge people. "What did you just say?" - Oh, do they make them
for like babies though or are they actual size? (Shayne laughs) Yeah. Okay. - It would be fun if you
only had Chansey merch, if that's the only thing you had. - That's true. Yeah. Welcome to my apartment. Come on in. - You really like Chansey, huh? - Awful hard to move with the
floor covered in Chanseys. No, I've got Litwick
as well, so we're good. - Okay, yeah, then it's cool. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - There's some comments here. Top one, "Get some new friends." OP responded, "They
are our mutual friends, "so she would need to
know they make fun of her. "I don't want her to know really "because I know she will get hurt." - Already doesn't sound
like they're mutual friends. - Does not sound like
they're mutual friends. Another comment we have here is, "You should embrace her love for 'Pokemon' "since it brings her happiness. "If your friends make fun of
her, tell them they can leave. "A lot of people enjoy things
other people find childish, "but they shouldn't have
to change what they enjoy "so other people think they're grown up. "Let your girlfriend enjoy what she enjoys "as much as she wants to enjoy it. "If your friends don't
like it, well (beep) 'em." - Yeah. - Yeah, that's pretty straightforward. - It's like he's looking
for incompatibility. Like, I've been on dates
before where it's like, "Oh, you're not into
like sports and stuff?" You're like, "Oh," you know,
I'm not like a dude dude. You know what I mean? Like, I'm not like a bro. And I'm just like, "Oh, like I'm not gonna
try to change myself. "Like, this is already
clearly an incompatibility. "Thank you for your time. "Like, all good." But they already both like gaming. He could play "League" while
she's playing "Pokemon." That's already great. What are you doing? - The cognitive dissonance
of playing "Minecraft" but then thinking that a
"Pokemon" obsession is childish. I'm like, that's- - I'm wondering if it leans more into the plushy aspect of it. - I guess.
- Of like him being like, "Oh she has-"
- I think they're pretty cool. - "She has toys." (groans) - Yeah. I guess. - I don't know. Like, I think he's a
little bit too concerned about his own image in regards
to like his girlfriend. - Yeah. - Maybe it's a matter of
like having an honest talk about what is and is not
comfortable for like a shared space 'cause like look, I have no
less than seven keyblades. I have all sorts of cool and it's awesome, and I love that you're laughing
about how awesome that is. (Shayne laughs) But like if I lived with a
partner and they were like, "Hey, can we at least move
the 'Devil May Cry' swords "out of the bedroom?" I'd
be like, "Sure," you know? - Yeah. Too much masculine energy. - Look, y'all cast me in this video, so I'm just gonna say this
is everybody else's fault. - They're sick. - I mean I think that's cooler than like the generic like katanas. - No, I received that
for getting a black belt. But otherwise no. - Okay. - Never forget. - All right, well we have an update. - Oh. - We have an update. So let's see if this
guy learns his lesson. - They also died. - They died too. (Shayne laughs) - "I decided to post this update
because you were all right. "I didn't have a girlfriend problem. "I had a friend problem. "So I had to talk with my girlfriend, "like one of the users suggested. "I explained to her that I'm
not ashamed of her hobby. "I just didn't want her to know "that what our friends were
saying behind her back. "She said she doesn't
care about their opinion. "She's just doing what
she's enjoying the most. "I apologized to her. "She has also agreed to
move her 'Pokemon' plushies "so they wouldn't take up so much space. "Fast forward to today, "a few hours ago our friends visited us. "It didn't take long "for them to start making
fun of my girlfriend. "This time I got mad. "She organized her plushies so
they were all in our bedroom. "She has not even once mentioned 'Pokemon' "nor did she open the 'Pokemon Go' app. "Long story short, they
were forced to leave. "I've realized they don't have a problem "with my girlfriend's hobby. "They have a problem with my girlfriend. "And I have enabled their
behavior by not reacting sooner. "I told 'em they are the
ones who need to grow up "and to visit us again once
they will stop being boomers. "To show my girlfriend how sorry I am "and to better understand her hobby, "I've downloaded the app myself. "So now I'm trying to
level up as much as I can "because she has a mission "when she needs to trade
a Pokemon with a friend. "But to do so, I need
to be at least level 10. "Thank you all for all your comments, "even the mean ones, they worked
as a wake up call I guess." You really should have started
with "Pokemon Silver," but... (Damien laughs) - Okay. - That's great. These are both stories that are, these guys are redeeming themselves. - I think two stories in a row, they've leveled up in the
ways that are important. - There you go. - Wow. - In strength and dexterity. - Then they're all
getting a victory royale. - How many crowns do you got? Do the emote.
- Zero. I (beep) suck at "Fortnite." - I'm sorry. Do you wanna squad up? - I would just drag you down, man. (Ian laughs) - It's about fun. (Shayne laughs) - Okay, maybe. That's great. Look, these guys are
making gamers look good. - Well, it's a breath of fresh air 'cause like it's so rare
on these Reddit stories, 'cause, you know, even if I'm not, I watch all of these, like I love them. And there's so many times
where people are like, "I lit my friend on fire. "Is that okay?" And then they like don't see why it's bad. All of these are like,
"Oh my god, I do suck. "Thank you for the growth." Wow. - Yeah. - That's true. - Thank you. - Let's move on to our next story. This one... This next story, it
reminds me of another story that I believe, Ian, you were here for. - It's called the bible. - Is it poop ball? - It's not poop ball. We're not reading poop
ball on a gamer episode. - Maybe I haven't watched all of these. - I guess it is a
football, so that's gaming. There was a story a while
ago we read where a guy accidentally deleted his
friend's "Witcher 3" save file. - Oh yeah. - That takes work. - That takes work, and it's rough. - Okay. - Well, this title reminds me of that one. - Oh gosh. - "Am I the asshole "for deleting my boyfriend's
'Animal Crossing' save file?" (Shayne yells) - I wanna point out that
our cameraman Brennan just said under his
breath, "That's rough." (Shayne laughs) I don't think y'all
heard that, but that's... - This was posted this year, but in 2020 Smosh like
at the start of lockdown and everything, Smosh had
its own like community of people playing "Animal Crossing." And I put in a stupid amount
of hours into that game. And I have not played it
since summer of like 2020. But if that save file got deleted, I think I would like be devastated. - I streamed it for like a year straight, had like a storyline
attached to it at that time. It was social interaction for
all of us during the pandemic. - There's something, like,
I haven't opened it back up 'cause I think there's like
memories that are like tied. - There's souls that are trapped. - I truly think like there's a part of me that's in that game. - I have a graveyard in mine
for all the people that left. (Shayne laughs) We were talking about souls! (Shayne laughs) - I know what you mean though. I played every "Animal Crossing." Like, Game Cube, the 3DS. There was some that I missed. - "Wild World" or "City Folk"? - I played, I forget which one. But love these games. But if someone deleted
one of the save files, I'd have a problem. All right, here we go. "For context," this is
a 21-year-old woman. "For context, my boyfriend, who's 25, "purchased a Nintendo Switch in 2020 "shortly following the
shutdown for quarantine. "He played a variety of games
on different consoles/systems "before this, but got a
Switch as it became popular. "The game that he played most often "during quarantine was the
newest 'Animal Crossing' release, "'New Horizons.' "During the few months
of full lockdown alone, "he racked up over 700 plus hours." - My guy. - I understand. That's not crazy in lockdown. There was nothing to do. - Speak for yourself. I was going to parties, I was- (everyone laughs) You know, strangely there
was a lot of openings. Like, I could just go anywhere and- - It was great. - Anywhere I go. Parties, aquarium. - International travel. - Buffets. - Yeah, went to Mexico a lot. - I went to Italy. All the streets were like closed. Walked up and down. - "However, since going back
to work after the pandemic, "he completely lost interest in the game, "and I rarely saw him playing it. "As of late, he's been
mostly playing on his PS5. "I've never really been much of a gamer, "but I started seeing an influx "of 'Animal Crossing New
Horizons' related posts "on my TikTok "and decided since my
boyfriend already had the game "and the Switch, I'd asked him to play it. "He said yes when I asked. "And the next day after
getting off of work, "I got onto the Switch
and opened the game. "Based on the little research I did "and what I saw on TikTok, "I knew that I wouldn't get
the full experience of the game "if I wasn't the first player on the save. "I wanted the chance to be
the resident representative. "The only way to do this
besides getting my own Switch "was to delete his save and make my own. "I saw no problem with this "considering his Switch was
literally collecting dust "from not being used for so long. "He was at work when I decided to play "and couldn't usually take calls or texts, "so I made the decision on
my own to delete his save, "assuming he wouldn't be upset. "I assumed incorrectly apparently "because upon returning home he asked "what I had done so far in the game "and got extremely upset when I showed him "and he realized what happened. "Since then, he hasn't spoken much "and even went to his
parents' house for the night "because he needed space." Oh (beep). - Yeah. - Oh, she didn't know you
can make your own profile. - Well, that's- - Oh yeah. - That's the thing that I was gonna say is like at first I was
like, "Oh, she didn't know. "Like, it's an understandable mistake." She said, "No, I wanted the chance to be
the resident representative," which is like only one
person on a save file even if you're in the same
town can make big changes to the town. She's like, "I wanted that chance, "and I wouldn't get the whole experience "if I was on his island. "So I hit new game." So now for me she's an
asshole because she's like, "Oh well I wanna just do this more, "and I don't have time to ask him." Because before it would've just been like, "Oh, she didn't know." But she knew. - If you make your own profile, you can't start a brand new island? - Make a new Nintendo profile. - No, no. 'Cause I had one that was
like Damien on the island and he was like the representative
that could do stuff. But then I had a different one that I used just for streaming because I didn't wanna fully
like take up my own save file for that, but it is on the same
island with the same people. - You can only have one island per Switch? - Yes. But you're both living in the town. You both get your own house. - Yeah. That's so fun. - Relationships with people. - It could have gotten him
back into the game and then- - Yeah. (Shayne groans) So like that sucks. - You're so right. - The fact that she wasn't willing to just like wait to ask- - Yeah, dude. - Is crazy to me. (Shayne groans) - Why is everyone 21 in these stories? They're all just like, "I didn't communicate with my partner. "Is that bad?" It's like, yeah, you're 21. Like, yes. (Shayne laughs) Of course. You don't know that yet. - It's like, dude, just ask. Like, ah, 700 plus hours, even if you're never gonna touch it again, there's something about just like... Like, that's a lot of time that
now you're just erasing it. It's like, oh man. He didn't even get a chance
to like just be like, "Can I just do one more sweep
and just look at it again?" And then it's like that's brutal. - It sucks too 'cause like specifically, so for anyone who doesn't
know "Animal Crossing" who's listening to this, this type of game is tied to actual time. So there's certain things
where they're like, "Okay, you're gonna
start a building project. "You can come back in three days," and it's three real life days unless you're messing with
a clock in your system. So if he's putting in 700
hours and playing it right, like every day there's
something new to explore. Every day there's something fresh for you, an event might happen, someone
new might walk into town. So that is a lot of time
to just like (blows lips) - Yeah. - The game is just a design game. - [Damien] Yeah. - But that oddly makes it very personal 'cause it's not like a game that you're trying to beat anything. It's just a game where it's like, I have this island and I get
to morph it however I want, but that takes a lot
of time and commitment to morph this to reflect my personality. And 700 plus hours during
one of the hardest times in probably all our
collective lives is like, it's a time capsule in a way. And that's just gone now. Like, I think he might have been happy had he just gotten a chance to be like, "Can I just like look at it one last time? "Like, let's take a look at it." But he didn't get that
chance, so that's rough. - Yeah, I feel like he did the right thing by going to his parents' house 'cause I feel like when
something like that happens, like even if he understands that like she didn't do it maliciously, like as silly as it might sound, like he has to go and mourn that loss. That was 700 hours of time of his life that he spent doing that, and now all evidence
of it has been erased. - Right. - So like it is, like not to compare it
to like a human dying, but it is a death of sorts. - Right. - It's loss, yeah.
- So like I think he did the right thing by being like, "I need to get the (beep) outta here." - For sure. - Because yeah, like when
something like that happens, there is no way to like process that. You're not gonna have
a healthy conversation with someone when something
like that happens. - No. You're going through it. - So yeah, I mean she was
massively inconsiderate for not even checking. She just got excited and decided, "I'm gonna make this decision." And yeah. That was not cool. - The verdict was asshole. - Sure. - And this account is now disabled. They posted this about two weeks ago. So I'm assuming it may
not have ended well. I don't think there was a
good resolution to this one. - I mean, look, it said she's 21, he's 25. - [Shayne] Yeah. - I think like, look,
age differences can work. They can be totally fine. But specifically in that gap, there's a lot of potential for variation. So I think, you know, not to put myself in his shoes too much 'cause I don't know this person, but like if that had happened with someone being that
level of inconsiderate or showing that they couldn't
even wait an afternoon to like ask you specifically
and saying like, "Oh, I knew, but I just
didn't wanna wait," I don't think I'd be sitting
there mourning the game. I think I'd go to my
parents' house to be like, "What am I doing? "Like, this is showing up in this way. "What else is coming?" And it's so hard when it's
about gaming stuff too 'cause it does sound silly and childish when someone is not into it. But like if it were about
sports and it'd be like, "Hey, that's your like signed
football that has memorabilia, "you know, it's important to you. "I washed it 'cause it was
all dirty from the Sharpie." It's like the same thing
of like, "Oh my god!" Like, "What? It's just a ball." - It's just consideration
for people's things. - [Damien] Yeah. - And even if it seems so nothing to you, it's just like well that's their thing, so all you need to do is ask. - Yeah. - All you have to do is ask. And it might just be like, 'cause I could see myself being the type that if someone asked
like, and they're like, even if I lent my Switch to
someone, and they're like, "Hey, do you mind if I start
a new save file on that?" I could see myself being like, "Sure. "Like, you know what? "I'm not gonna play it again. "I have to be realistic. "That's okay." But I would be upset
if someone didn't ask. - Yeah. - Even if I wouldn't have cared, I would've been really pissed, 'cause I'd have been like, "Damn, dude. "Okay. Cool." And I'd be like, "Give me my Switch back. "I don't know what else
you're gonna do now." - I'd be like, "You better
replant my pumpkin patch." - [Shayne] Right. - You better- - You better get those colors of roses that I managed to get. - I got the gold roses and nothing but gold
roses lining the path. That's 1,000 bells per rose, my guy. - That's crazy. - Money from the ground. - Yep. - Wow. - Hey, this guy knows
what I'm talking about. - I've never played "Animal Crossing." - This guy knows what I'm talking about. - But I applaud your efforts. - Thank you. - Even though I don't know what that, I don't know what any of it means. - Some comments here. "You're the asshole. "It's his Switch and his save file. "You don't get to unilaterally
make the decision that, "oh, I'm just going to delete
the save file on his console "without even making the
effort to try to ask first "because I've heard it will
make the game experience better. "You couldn't even wait
until he got home to ask "or off of work to send a text to say, "'Babe, will it make a
difference to gameplay? "'Is it okay to do?' "What are you five, "with zero patience, no sense
of other people's property "and a need for immediate gratification?" Someone else said, "Oh my god, deleting
700 hours of gameplay? "I can't even imagine how long that took "with all the rare items." - 700 hours. Sorry. (everyone laughs) Sorry. - That's really funny. 700 hours. That's almost 700 hours. - I can't even count that. - I don't even know what that is. - Sorry. Am I the asshole? - That's so funny. "Oh my god, deleting
700 hours of gameplay. "I can't even imagine how long that took "with all the rare items and plants "that are season specific. "You're the asshole 100%. "As a fellow AC player, although
I only have 200-ish hours, "I'm horrified for him. "You could have made a new Switch profile "or uploaded his save game to
the cloud at the very least." - There is a way to transfer
saves to a different Switch, so I guess there could
have been the like upload to transfer thing. Let it hang. I don't know. - What's gonna really suck
is when she only plays it for like a week and then is like done. - Yeah. - Yeah, 'cause if she's
an instant gratification kind of person, I don't
think "Animal Crossing" is- - She's gonna not be super into it. - Conducive to that, right? - [Shayne] Yeah. - You're so right. - That's what was so funny. - [Damien] I didn't think about that. - Dude, lockdown, playing "Animal Crossing" those
first couple days was agony 'cause you do like a couple
things and you're like, "There's nothing else to
do in the game today." - Whoa. - And you're just kinda like... And I didn't wanna cheat,
I didn't wanna time travel, so I was just like, "Guess
I gotta set it down," and then I would just like
sit there in my living room and I was just like, "Okay." - I gave myself grace for
that point 'cause it was like, there's such little to
do on the first day, and they're like, "Well, we're gonna try to
build you a little tent. "Like, come back tomorrow." I was like, "No, the world is closed down. "I'll say it's tomorrow now." - Yeah, you know, respect people's things. Unless, you know, for
our fans for a few years, if someone has a golden
cat in "Stardew Valley," you can throw that out. And that's funny. But that's funny. - I guess that makes both
of us who haven't forgotten. (tape winds) - Hey. I got an idea. - Did you just steal my
Statue of Endless Fortune? - Hey, what if I throw this away? Sure would be a shame if I threw away your
most prized possession. Oops! Oops, oops, oops, oops! Uh-oh! Uh-oh! Oh no! - That cost a million of the game dollars. (Shayne laughs) - I'm just kidding. Even that I made, you know what? Shayne, it's time to drop the Smosh lore. Let's do it. - There's gonna be a
couple people watching who are gonna be devastated by this. But I think it's fair. - I knew that we were going
to be modding "Stardew Valley" to be multiplayer before it
was actually able to do so, like in base game. I made a backup of my save. Shayne threw away that golden cat knowing full well that I would be fine. He would never betray my
actual trust like that. That's why I paused for
so long before I reacted 'cause I didn't know how to. - We're just burying this
lore in a "Reddit Stories"? This is crazy. - Guess they gotta watch
all our videos, huh? - Some Smosh Games lore
from 2018. (laughs) - Might've been before that. - This is deep lore. - I know, man. - [Ian] Wow. - Yeah. This episode of "Reddit
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interest in our marriage "for 'Final Fantasy XIV.'" - Woo! (everyone laughs) - "I left. "He didn't even notice. "What now? "This is probably a tale-" - Is that the online one? - Yeah.
- [Shayne] Yeah. - Oh yeah. Okay. - Y'all don't understand. It's really good. - I've heard it's great. "This is probably a tale as old as Atari." - Eh. All right. Asshole. - (beep) you! - [Ian] Asshole. - Okay. "When my husband and I met, "we had a lot of things in common. "As time went on and our
lives shifted and changed, "his interests changed. "We've been together
nine years, married six. "We both work average
office jobs 40 hours a week. "He started to get into this
game 'Final Fantasy XIV.' "He is obsessed with it. "From the moment he
gets up on the weekends "to when he gets home from
work, he plays the game. "He talks to people about the game. "He reads about the game. "We all need hobbies, "but he's completely
abandoned any of the things "that we did together. "Hiking, jogging together,
art nights, board games, "bar trivia, et cetera. "I'll try to get him to
come with me to bar trivia "with our friends and he
just wants to stay home "and play the game. "I'll invite him for a hike
and he just wants to relax. "We've had sex five times this year. "Each time I had to initiate."
- Bragger. - Wait, what? - Bragging. (Shayne laughs) Okay. - Damn. Okay, so they're crazy. "We've had sex five times this year. "Each time I had to initiate. "I've tried to initiate
dozens of other times, "tried to pull him to bed. "He will just come to bed,
cuddle, check that I'm asleep, "and go back to play his game. "I'm not interested in playing video games "beyond a game like 'Candy Crush.' "So me joining him would be me "being completely disinterested,
confused/lost, or annoyed. "The last time I talked to him about this, "I told him that I was
lonely in our marriage "and felt neglected. "He told me that I was putting
too much pressure on him, "that he needed time to unwind from work. "He will sit on the
couch next to me at night "while there's 'Parks and Rec' "or something in the background, "just not interact with me at
all and call it couples time. "He says, 'This is how adults do it. "'It's not like in the movies.' "When I pressed and
pressed for date night, "he was quiet and didn't
have much to talk about. "And in the car while I was driving home, "instead of interacting with me, "he just pulled out his
phone to get on Discord "and talk to people about his game. "I tried to initiate sex, "and he kissed me on the
forehead, said goodnight, "and left to go play the game. "I cried for a little while. "I packed my things and left
to spend a week with my family. "When I got back, "it was almost like I just
walked back into the room "exactly as I had left it. "Nothing had changed. "He was in the same spot as when I left. "I asked him if he'd noticed I was gone "and he said, 'No, not really.' "I stared at him, and he just said, "'Look, I don't know
what you want from me. "'I'm allowed to have time to myself.' "He kept pressing that it's normal "for adults to do their own thing. "I said, 'Yeah, but we need
to do things together too.' "He kept saying I put
too much pressure on him "and if I wanna do
something with him so badly "to give him something more interesting "or important than his game. "I said, 'So intimacy with
your wife is not as important "'or interesting as your game?' "He said, 'No, and basically
ask any one of my friends "'and they'd agree they'd prefer
to stay up playing the game "'than cutesy, cuddling and
sweet talking with their wives.' "I didn't even know what to say. "I'm dumbfounded now. "Part of me is wondering "if I just don't have a
realistic view of relationships. "It's good to have alone time. "I have my alone time as well. "But it feels like he's my
roommate now, not my husband. "Before anyone brings up
depression or anxiety, "I've asked him about it. "He doesn't believe
it's related to either. "And instead thinks that he's just changed "and has different priorities
to what he had before. "Do I have next steps here "or is it time for me to just
pack up and leave for good? "I'm not happy. "I don't think he's the person "I initially fell in love with. "I think his wife is
'Final Fantasy XIV' now. "And to be honest, my
self-esteem has slipped. "To be less interesting or compelling "than pixels on a screen. "Ouch." This is extreme. This is as extreme as it can get. - It sounds like a cope to me. - Yeah, I think it's gone into the realm of like addiction of some capacity. Like, you know, he's not
wrong in the sense that like, yeah, couples do need to do
their own thing sometimes, but like there's no balance there. That sounds like an extreme. Like, to not notice she
was gone for a week? - That's the most insane thing ever. I mean, I haven't heard of
anything quite like that. If your partner leaves for a week and doesn't even tell you where they are and you're just like there and
like he was probably stoked. He was just like, "Sweet." - Yeah. More time. More time to game. - And she's tolerated a lot. It sounds like this has
been going on a long time. She's not judging him
for playing the game, but she's upset at him
for just being gone. He's gone now. - And that is really, the saddest part of that
to me was when she said, "Do I just have an unrealistic
view of relationships?" I'm like, no, don't gaslight yourself and don't let him gaslight you. It's very clear that unfortunately he has
made his priorities known. Like, you can work on relationships, but you shouldn't have to convince someone to spend time with you. - Right. - And that sucks. Like, I feel so sad for her. - Right. - And I feel like... I mean like if he's not even like willing to like listen to her
issues that she's seeing and like he's not
willing to like empathize with her being like, "Like,
this is not equitable anymore," and he's just like, "Well, too bad. "This is what adults do." Like, that's silly. - Yeah, it's like where is
he making that decision from? You know? It's just like, "Well
this is what adults do." It's like, says who? Like, you're just saying that 'cause that's convenient to you. It does feel like he's telling himself and her anything that
gets him to what he wants, and it does feel like
addictive, you know, personality where it's like his only
goal is to get there and play that and escape. - Yeah. It is escapism. And I think one thing
I've learned at this point in my life, you know, I've been in like a few
long-term relationships, and it's like, you've gotta
believe what people do more than they say. And like at this point when he is like, "Well, it's just what I wanna do. "Like, well, this is fine. "Well, this is time." Like, it's hard to hear those things because you want that to be true. But in reality he's showing you exactly how he wants to spend his time. And like, look, I actually used
to play "Final Fantasy XIV." It's a great game and
there's a lot of variety. I can see why someone could
get lost in it really easily. One benefit I had was when
I was playing that game, I was also in a relationship with a girl who also played that game. So it'd be like, "Let's
do this, let's do that. "Let's go do this activity. "Now do you wanna spend a
couple hours playing together "on this? "Great, let's do this
activity together in the game. "And now we'll go do something else." I can't imagine being
that level of addicted, even with a partner who plays with you. Like, that's just too much. I don't know why I'm pointing at the iPad like it's a person. - Yeah. (beep) you! - Get outta there. - I don't know what you're thinking. - Yeah, it's a tough thing. And I mean, this is the only
personal connection I can make is that when I was a teenager, I was super hooked on "World of Warcraft." And I had a year where I was hooked, and I put in crazy hours to the game. But more important than the
hours was just that I was like, my only desire day in and
day out was to play the game. And I remember like I had family visiting, and I was just like in
there playing the game, and my mom was like, "You need
to go see your grandparents." And I was like, "Yeah, but I'm about to
get my mount finally," and like all this stuff.
- Yes. - But it hit a point, and I was 15, and even then I hit the
realization of like, "If I don't quit this, I am going to lose, "like this isn't healthy. "I am overall more unhappy than happy." And so I quit that. And since then I've just
stuck to games that I can beat so that I'm like, I can have
a little bit of time to it and then I can leave, but I can't let it take over everything because then I start to feel bad. And that was my own personal decision. - Yeah, I think like I've gone through like many different
like bouts of, you know, I don't know if I would call
it addictions to gaming, but I have fallen into some
like patterns of playing games for like a long period of time that like I would start to recognize like, oh when I, you know, the
last one for me was "Civ VI." Oh my god. - Yeah, dude. We played together briefly, right? - We never played a
game against each other. - I thought we did. Oh sorry. - But I would love to. - Let's do that. - And then spend an entire weekend. - Hey, do you wanna- (Shayne laughs) You wanna relapse with me? - 'Cause I lost entire
weekends to that game. But I also realized like whenever I did, that was in like in detriment
to all of my relationships, things I needed to get done at home. Like, it just became work and "Civ VI," and everything else suffered. And like I think there
were definitely times that I had to be like, "Oh, okay, like I need to acknowledge "like I can't play this a healthy amount." And to like be able to step outside and like realize that I think
is like really important. So yeah, occasionally I'll dip in, occasionally I'll dip in,
maybe play like one game. But I've on multiple occasions completely wiped the game off my Xbox 'cause I'm like I can't do this. - Wow. - I think that's an interesting
way to put it though 'cause like when you say "I
can't do this a healthy amount," 'cause it's the same
thing with anything else. Like, there's some people
that can drink a little bit and be fine. There's some people that
cannot have one beer. They're like, "I can't do this otherwise I
know it's gonna be an issue." But like with something like "Civ VI," there are games that are
just meant for longevity and like I don't wanna sit down and play "Civ VI" for an hour. I don't wanna sit down and
play "Final Fantasy XIV" for an hour. I want to lose a day to that. And sometimes that can be fine,
but it can't be every day, and it can't be to the
detriment of everything else. - Yeah. - Similarly, like when I was a kid, my parents actually had to talk to me about like addictive personalities because I was addicted
to like "Runescape." I was still a straight A student, but it was starting to
affect anything additional that I wanted to do. And so when I played
"WoW," "World of Warcraft," and for anyone who doesn't know, "World of Warcraft," "Final Fantasy XIV," those are the types of games where you're playing with other people. They're massive. There's whole worlds. I bought myself three months
of game time and that was it because I was like, "If
I don't limit myself, "I will get addicted to this." But I also have a memory
of visiting family and being up in like the attic area with this beautiful like
snowy field in front of me and my family that lived in a rural area and just the whole world, and everyone's laughing downstairs, and I'm upstairs being
like, "I'm a blood elf." (Shayne laughs) - Yeah. I think for me the kind of
like mantra I have in my head is just like, it's important
to just take breaks of anything. Like, just to make sure you're
getting that variety in life. And like the thing that I guess I would say like
I'm truly addicted to now is like working out. And even that like, it's like, "Oh, that's healthy," whatever. It's like even that, I recognize that I'm like I
have a hard time going days without it. And so if I am somewhere
or something's going on where I can't do it for a week, I'm like, this is good for me
mentally to take that break. It's important to make sure that's not the thing that's pulling you, that you are actively
consciously choosing to do things in your life. - Yeah, I'm not addicted to any games. I'm just addicted to the game. (Damien laughs) - Damn it. I just lost the game. - We have some comments here. "OP, this isn't normal. "My partner games and plays similar games, "but we chill together, have tea together, "and socialize together around gaming. "He's addicted. "Maybe he has a problem?" Someone else said, "Hey,
I'm a 31-year-old woman, "hardcore player. "'WoW,' 'HC,' raiding. "Three to four nights
per week I spend in-game "with my game buddy. "And also I have a job. "But weekends and other
game free evenings, "it's about me, my partner, and my dogs. "Yes, I played all day
long when I was a teenager. "Now it's not so interesting. "I get tired quickly. "It seems he is running away from reality, "and the reality with you
does not interest him much. "Perhaps he has a game wife." - Oh no.
- I also considered that. I also considered that. - Yeah, my inclination like... - 'Cause he's talking on Discord too. - Yeah, look, I'm not gonna
discount that reality. And we have an update here,
so we're about to find out. - Did he get a new girlfriend
and she deleted a save file? - I was gonna say my
inclination too is just like, it might just be this
escapism of like this... Why I can't play games like "WoW" or this is because like I am also a
bit of a workaholic at times, and I love when I can put
in work and I see results. I love that. And you don't get that from
the real world too often. But in games like that, you get it. You grind and you get the results. And that is so addictive for some people. - Sure. Yeah. - And you just can't stop. It's truly rewarding. So my theory is that. But let's see if the game wife theory is- - 'Cause "Final Fantasy XIV"
there are a lot of people with game relationships that don't carry into the real world. - I don't know the game well enough. I've only played the other,
like seven and 10 and 12. - Good choices. - Yeah. Pretty solid. And the remake and rebirth. - [Damien] Nice. - All right. "Update, I took some of the
advice given to me by commenters "and went looking through his phone "and through his computer
to see what I could find. "Unfortunately, some of you who commented "and DM'd me were correct. "My husband has been cheating on me." - Boom. There it is. - "From what I could tell, "there were multiple accounts on Discord "that he would be up all
day and night talking to "and sexting with. "It was disgusting. "There were pictures, written
out sexting, the whole mess. "There were screenshots of his
character doing sexual things "with other characters in the game." - Okay, okay, okay. Move a little forward. Move a little more forward. Okay. Okay. Now do the dance. Oh, that's hot. That's hot. - Okay, now floss. - Orange Justice. - "I got records of everything,
screenshots, et cetera. "I did something "that you will all have
my head for unfortunately, "and decided that if he was
going to defile our marriage "and disrespect me, I'll
do the same thing back. "I took my kettlebell and
redacted his gaming laptop, "grabbed all of his gaming things "and put them in a container. "When he got home from a work meeting, "I was waiting for him with the box "and asked him to sit down. "I told him that I was
going to give him a chance "to tell me anything he wanted to tell me. "He just stared at me dumbly. "I said, 'There is nothing
you want to tell me? "'Nothing at all?' "He said, 'No.' "So I said, 'Well, I found
out what you've been doing "'on that game of yours.' "His face didn't change. "I think he was trying to call my bluff. "I got up and said, 'This box is for you, "'and I want you and this box out of here "'by the end of the day.' "He said, 'What? "'What are you talking about? "'What do you mean?' "I told him that effective
immediately our relationship "was over. "I would be contacting a
divorce attorney the next day, "and he can come back to
get the rest of his things, "but that he would not be staying here. "I said that I have to leave the room "because I'm so disgusted "that the sight of you
makes me want to throw up. "He was just shocked. "And then after I went into the bedroom, "I heard him yelling all
kinds of things, sobbing, "and 'What did you do? "'How could you do this? "'Oh my god.' "And sobbing like a (beep) baby. "Honestly, it felt good. "If there was a worse
way I could've hurt him, "I would've done that. "He wasn't crying because he
was upset about his actions. "No, he was crying because he
couldn't jump right back on "and continue playing his game. "Boo-hoo. "His little cartoon
side pieces had to wait. "Well to spare you the
rest of the play by play, "he got his things, I
contacted the divorce attorney, "I changed the locks, "and I shared exactly
what happened to Facebook "where all his family and
some of his friends are. "I will be okay. "I am heartbroken "because I really thought
he was a good man, "but I was wrong. "He's a (beep) loser who
likes to sext other women "and have sex with cartoon
characters on a monitor. "Well, he is free to do that without me. "So just let that be a lesson
to any other people out there "whose marriage seems
it's in a rough spot, "whose partner is obsessed
with his 'Final Fantasy' game. "You should check. "Listen to your gut or
people on Reddit, LOL." - That's so sad. - Oof. Wow. I can't believe you guys called it. - That was, I mean, that was Ian. - Damn. I mean, so that was fully, so it was a fully in-game relationship. - It was the Discord
thing that was like, "Oh." - [Shayne] It's true. - So it's not just the game. But that's... I mean like yeah, obviously
that is obviously cheating. And she's totally within her rights to just end it right there. It's just, I don't know. Like, to not even... I guess at that point
she figured it was done. - I mean, how do you come back from this? - She was being disrespected so heavily. - You can't come back from that. My thought, my only takeaway is contact the divorce attorney first. - [Damien] Yes. - And then like her
move, it worked out fine. But I'm just like a guy
who's in that head space where you left for a week
and he didn't even know 'cause he is hooked on that, you're gonna destroy it with
a kettlebell, show it to him. - Well, I'm assuming she
saved all the evidence. - She did.
- For sure. I'm saying safety wise. Safety wise, I'm just like, thank God this all, like she's safe now, but I'm just like- - Yeah. - Hoo. Like, get all of your cards stacked first and then do all of that. It worked out fine. But it's just like, I didn't know what his
reaction was gonna be. - I definitely don't blame
her for doing those things. I would be worried that like, even though it's not fair to her, I'd be worried that
like in a court of law, they'd be like, "Well, you
destroyed his property." Like, there's always some way that someone gets screwed over like that. I think she did the best
she could in that moment. And like also from the
sound of it when she's like, "There were pictures
and it was disgusting," it sounded like yes,
there were characters, but also it could have
been something else. And also like- - It seems like there's
a lot of possibilities for all the stuff that
could have been on there. - And even before the cheating aspect, like it sounded like this
relationship was done. - Yeah. - And you just add that on top of it. And then the lying to
your face when it's like, "I found this." And he is like, "What do you mean?" Like, there's no way. - No, to be like, "Is there
anything you wanna tell me?" And him to be like, "No." I'm like, then it's over. That's such disrespect. - Here's your computer with Discord on it. Are you sure? And he is like, "Yeah, I
don't know what you mean." - That's sad. Well, I'm happy for her that
she's gonna be out of that. She's gonna be a lot happier. - Damn. - That sucks. That really sucks. - Yeah, I mean, find
out what server he is on and we'll grief him. - Yeah. Beat the shit out of his character. All right, here's our next story. This comes from Relationship Advice. This is from a couple years ago. This is from December of 2020. - Wow. - It's a 28-year-old man. "My girlfriend, who's 26, broke my PS4 "and doesn't understand why I'm so upset. "I don't really know
where to go from here. "So some background. "During quarantine, "I've been playing my
PS4 games a lot more. "I was able to finish up some stories "and complete some big games "in my free time the last few months. "It was a great escape for me. "My girlfriend, Liz, never got it fully, "but understood I like playing
it and it made me happy. "I told her that I was really
looking forward to the PS5 "and was hoping to get one soon. "I missed out on the pre-order
and initial shipping wave, "so I got a bit sad for a while, "but knew I would eventually get one "when the craze settled down, "whether it was next
year or the year after. "Her friend Kat also knew of this "because her boyfriend was
looking forward to the new Xbox. "This is what happened today. "This is when shit got bad. "I was playing 'Final Fantasy VII Remake,' "finishing up some last achievements "when Liz came into the room with Kat. "I said, 'Hey babe, how was your day?' "And without warning, she
pulled the PS4 out of the wall "and smashed it on the ground. "She then took a hammer "and smashed whatever pieces were left. "This happened within 20 to 30 seconds. "I just looked at her shocked. "I asked, 'What happened?'" - Wild card! (everyone laughs) - Gotta keep you on your feet! (everyone laughs) "I asked, 'What happened? "'Why did you do that? "'Did I do something to make you mad?' "This was when I noticed
Kat was recording everything "with her phone. "Liz walks away and then comes
back and shows me a PS5 box." - (beep) off. - "I still don't react, "and she says, 'Merry early Christmas.' "I just walk out of the
room and go to the bedroom "and lock the door." (crew laughs) "Liz comes knocking an hour
later and asks, 'What's wrong? "'I thought you wanted the PS5?'" - (beep) idiot. (everyone laughs) Sorry. - "'What's wrong? "'I thought you wanted the PS5?' "I told her I couldn't
even think about that "because she literally just
destroyed a part of my life "that I've created over
the last five years. "I explained to her "that she just ruined
hundreds of hours of gameplay "and saves that I had built up. "Liz just said, 'Well, can't
you just do it again?'" (Shayne laughs) - Bro! - Look, they're making a new COVID. Don't worry. You're
gonna get another chance. "This is when I walked out
and left the apartment. "I came back a couple hours later "with Kat and Liz now both
showing off the PS5 to me. "Kat says, 'Look, Liz worked
really hard to get you this. "'We just wanted to make you happy.' "I asked Kat why she was recording. "She says that some person on TikTok "or Instagram did the same
thing to their boyfriend. "And they were happy. "Apparently that's where
they got the idea from. "A girlfriend came in and broke
the PS4 then gave them a PS5 "and everyone cheered or something. "I still can't believe it. "They wanted to make a video "in that spirit with me as the guy. "I told Kat a lot of
my life was on that PS4 "and now it's all gone. "Side note. "Yes, I know I should have
backed up on the cloud. "I did for some of my games, "but a lot of them I just kept on the PS4. "I had hundreds of hours
from 'The Witcher 3,' "'Kingdom Hearts' games,
'Final Fantasy VII Remake,' "'Final Fantasy XV,' 'God
of War,' 'The Last of Us,' "'Resident Evil,' 'Devil May Cry' games. "Many of these titles were fully completed "or close to that point. "Most of them are now lost. "Now Kat is calling me ungrateful "and her boyfriend liked
the Xbox she gave him. "I asked her if she
destroyed his old Xbox. "She said no and that
she just gave it to him "as a gift wrapped last week." - That's the usual. Yeah. (Shayne laughs) - So that's right. That's how you normally do it. "I asked why I wasn't
given the same treatment, "and it was because they
saw the video yesterday." - Yeah, they saw the TikTok. - "Got the idea to recreate it. "I told Liz I do appreciate the gift, "but that she needs to
know she broke a part of me "that has been built over the years. "It sounds stupid, but I really
was proud of my collection. "Liz then says, "'Well, why can't you just do
it on the new PlayStation?' "I told her I could, but
it would take a lot of time "and effort that I may
not wanna put in again. "She just brushed it off and said, "'Well, you can play
your new games anyway. "'They're probably better.' "At this point, I left and
went to a friend's house "where I'm writing this now late at night. "I don't know what to do at this point. "I really don't care about the PS5 "and am mad that a (beep) viral
video made this all happen. "What the (beep) is wrong with people "where they think destroying
someone's personal property "is funny? "They tried showing me the video, "but I'm not watching that shit. "Liz and I have had a great
relationship to this point. "We've been together for four years, "and this is the only major
issue that has come up. "Some might think it's just a video game "or that I can get past this,
but I don't know if I can. "It wasn't just that she did it. "It was the fact that after
it, she didn't seem to know why "or care to know why I'm upset. "I've never had this feeling before "and really don't know
how to proceed here." - Yeah. 'Cause I've seen similar videos. But like the issue is that like some people
don't have the awareness that those videos are oftentimes faked. - Yes. - And it's planned beforehand. And it's like somebody's PS4 is broken and then so they use that. I mean, there's tons of videos of people breaking their Xbox, but obviously they had
like the red ring of death or whatever it was. - Yeah, or like they break their dad's TV and it's like, "What do you mean? "Why are you doing this, Tommy? "This is crazy." And then like, "Surprise,
Dad, it's a bigger TV." "Oh, you're the best." - Yeah, so to emulate that
kind of shit for clout just pisses me off so much because it shows like such a
disrespect for like your stuff, and it's like she was doing it for clout. - That's what I was gonna say is like it takes away the
specialness of the gift. - Yeah. - It's like she wants to get
something in return for it. - Yeah, maybe just film
you giving him the PS5 and that would've made
him pretty freaking happy. - Yeah. - Like, wholesome videos do well too. And on top of that, like it is the challenge
that I brought up earlier of like it being related to gaming. It's hard because it's always
going to sound to people who aren't a fan of it or have had like partners who
like ignore them for gaming, it's gonna sound silly and childish where it's like, "It doesn't
matter 'cause it's gaming. "Oh, this hurts 'cause
it's gaming, whatever." But in reality it's just
lack of communication, lack of respect. Like, that's what this boils down to. You broke something of mine,
and it's important to me, and it doesn't matter
if you get it or not, it should matter to you because
I'm really hurt by this. And obviously she's thinking like, "Oh, I spent a lot of money
on a cool gift for you." But like she had to have known
it was going to affect him because otherwise there's
nothing to watch on that video. - Right. - If he was like, "Ba ba ba. Wow." Like, that's not a video you watch. You knew you'd make him freak out. - Yeah. I mean, it sounds like she did
it more for her than for him. - Absolutely. - Like, "I'm gonna look so good "and it's gonna be such a funny moment." But that's crazy. That pisses me off so much. - And it's insane. And it sounds like he's saying like, it's not that she did this whole prank and that it all went wrong
and that it upset him. Like, it's that afterwards when
he is like, "This upset me," she's like, "Well, just,
just do it on your new thing. "Like, why are you upset?" Like, instead of being
like, "I'm so sorry. "This did not go how I
wanted, and I'm really sorry." Like, all she really
had to do was apologize, and he'd probably be willing
to like be there and stuff. But her reaction to it
is so selfish and shitty. It's just like, all you have
to do is own up and be like, "This did not go how I thought. "I'm sorry." But she doesn't sound sorry at all. - Yeah. - Just is like blaming him for it. The whole like, "Well just
(beep) do it on your thing." It's like, bro, okay. Like, come on. - Also, like even from a
practical standpoint, like PS5s, especially when you were having
a hard time finding them, not cheap. Like, if you had to get
it through a scalper, even more expensive. Selling a working PS4
might help with that. - I was about to say, you still destroyed like $200 worth of, well, 100 to $200 worth of property there that you could have gotten. Like, that's a waste of money. It's very stupid. - God forbid at Christmas she's
like, "I got you a puppy." (everyone laughs) Where's Baldo? (beep) Sorry. - Some comments here. "Even if you had everything
backed up and your girlfriend "was certain you didn't
want the old one anymore, "what kind of asshole would smash it up? "Would she not give it to
a needy kid or something? "Kat knew it was a shitty thing to do. "That's why she didn't mess
with her own relationship "by doing it." Someone else said, "Ask her what she'd do "if you bought her the
latest model of her phone, "took her phone, smashed
it up with a hammer, "then gave her the new model "when she hadn't backed up
everything on the new phone." Yeah, exactly. That's also a good point. It's just like, that's a
perfectly good working PS4. Someone would want that. - Yeah, yeah. - Like, every single old system I've had I've given to someone, and it's just like,
yeah, someone wants it. Like, don't let it go to waste. - Yeah. - Update. - Ooh. They're dead.
- [Shayne] Okay. - Ooh. - "Well, it's been a
hellish couple of weeks." - Oh, weeks! Sorry. (Shayne laughs) - "It's been a hellish couple of weeks. "First of all, I
appreciate all the support. "I didn't get to respond to many people "because my life has been a
whirlwind the last couple weeks. "It took a lot of time thinking
and talking with my friends "and family about what had happened "and where to go from here. "I tried saving the hard drive "from the PS4 through my buddy, "who is more tech savvy than I. "We had no luck in that regard. "All that stuff is lost forever. "The PS5 has been at our
place since the incident, "but I have no interest in that right now. "I didn't go back to the
apartment for a week. "I finally told Liz we needed to sit down "and have a discussion about everything. "It was a long conversation "with a lot of tears on both ends. "I won't go into exact details, "but I explained to her how
her actions affected me. "The comparison some told me "to tell her about me
smashing her phone/laptop "in the same manner really hit her. "At that moment, she understood I think. "I once again asked why she recorded it. "She said she wanted to capture
the moment of my happiness. "It wasn't about Instagram/TikTok
clout or whatever. "She thought I would be ecstatic "and wanted to have that
moment captured forever. "I told her I understood that. "Finally, I told her the truth. "I told her I couldn't trust
her anymore after this. "She destroyed something dear to me. "I broke up with her." (Ian gasps) - Wow. - "Maybe it is irrational
and maybe I'm overreacting. "I think after the conversation
with my parents, friends, "and her, I realized
that I can't love someone "who doesn't empathize with me enough "to know that breaking
that PS4 was a bad move. "This incident should have never happened "if she knew how much I cared about this, "especially during a
year as rough as this. "I told her that I'm
moving outta the apartment "to live with my parents for a bit. "I said that I'm breaking
the lease in March, "so she has until then
to find a new place. "She was upset, but I stood my ground. "So I spent Christmas with my parents. "And while a little sad,
I think it's for the best. "She has tried to reach
out, but I told her "unless it was about
stuff about the apartment "that I don't wanna talk to her right now. "As for me, I think I'm done with gaming. "I'll find something
else to keep my interest. "I didn't take the PS5. "It'll be really hard "for me to find my joy in it after this. "I thought I would marry Liz. "We were college sweethearts
and we were happy. "Now everything is
broken just like my PS4. "And so I would rather not
be reminded of that anymore. "For now, I'm just going
to be alone for a while "and figure things out. "I believe that everything
will work out in the end "as long as I keep myself
honest and hardworking." - Jesus. - Yeah. Damn. - This story has been a rollercoaster. - Yeah. Look, I don't know them, and my take on it is if after
talking to family, friends and thinking about it he
decided to break up with her, then I can only think like, okay, then you made the
right decision, right? - Yeah. - It feels weird because him saying like, "We've been great and just this incident," has me being like, oh, is that worth, like, if you're gonna marry this person, like is it really like, but it's his decision to make
and that's what he's decided. It's like I'm putting
myself in those shoes, but I'm like my PlayStation
means something different to me than what it means to him, you know? So I'm like, okay, I can't
relate in that regard. - I don't know. Whenever someone says like, "We've never had an issue until now," I always question that a little bit 'cause I'm like, do you not talk about it when there are issues? Are things sort of slipping by you? So maybe talking with family
and friends, you know, if they're being supportive
up until that point, that's when they'd go like, "Actually, we've all had a
little bit of an issue with Liz." You know what I mean? - [Shayne] Right. - But I'm also like, he
clearly really likes the PS4. Like, I love gaming. This would be a really hard
thing for me to deal with too. But when he's talking about like, "This is a part of who I am,
this is a part of who I am," there's a strong attachment there that even I don't really fully get. But like you said, it matters to him. I am surprised at this outcome
now that he said that like, "When I brought up the
phone thing, she got it. "You know, she was crying and I get it." I'm like, "Okay, you know,
maybe they can build back." And then he is just like, "But anyway, you know, it doesn't
matter if you know or not, "I'm done." Maybe you just can't unsee
that or can't unfeel it. But like, it's just, it's so sad. - Everyone has different lines. - That's true. - Right? And I'm like, there's a lot of things where I would be that way, even if that person was
like, "I fully understand it "and I am a different
person, and I'm sorry." I'd be like, "But my line was crossed "and like I can't get over that." - Sure. - It's not about you anymore. It's about like, what can I say? Like, it's not fair to you
for me to stay with you 'cause I'll resent you. - That's fair. - But I'm just like, damn,
okay, that was your line. That was your line. I mean, like I said, I can't relate 'cause I'm like, I don't
know if I would be the same. But I can't judge him for what he did. - And this is like during the, like near the beginning of the pandemic? - This is December of 2020. So it is a hard year too. Things meant a lot to us. Like, that's just tough. And it's just like yeah, it's
hard for me to put myself in that year again of
just like disrespect, things meant a lot more. Like, I do remember that. Like, just even the
small things meant a lot. And it's just like... - Yeah. And you're stuck with the people within your household a lot more. - And you're stuck with your things. And those things mean a lot. - It's all under a magnifying
glass at that point too. - Just another casualty of 2020. - [Shayne] Yeah. But- - It's a bold choice too to like, anything that someone's doing, like 1,000 piece puzzle,
they're almost done. I got us tickets to Hawaii! It's like... - Yeah. Well, damn. - [Damien] Damn. - All right, I believe
this is our last story, and it's got multiple parts to it. - Ooh.
- Ooh. Saga. - So the way this is organized
is a little bit out of order, and that's on purpose. - Ooh, so it's like "Pulp Fiction." - Kind of. - We're gonna "Memento" this shit. - We are keeping some context secret because it'll be a big surprise. But I'll just go through this now. So this is all from this year. And it comes from Best
of Redditor Updates. - Ooh. - "OOP's gaming addiction
costs him everything." - OOP? - Yeah. OOP is original original poster. - Okay. - Someone else compiled all of this. - Got it, got it. - Okay. "Editor's note, 'Star Citizen,' an MMO, "is an in-development
multiplayer space trading "and combat simulation game. "It's been in development since 2012. "It uses almost entirely
crowdfunding for costs, "and as such has players
buy in-game spaceships "for real money with
the cheapest being $45 "and some ship packages having a price "of up to $48,000 according
to one article I saw. "Some of these ships aren't in game yet "and are considered concept ships, "essentially pre-ordering in-game items. "Many people consider
this game to be a scam "based on the amount of time
it's been in development, "missed development milestones, delays, "and the exorbitant prices
of some of its content." - Yeah. - You guys are familiar with this game? - Yeah. Yeah. They've raised like hundreds
of millions of dollars over the years, and they
keep pushing release date. They were gonna have this like
massively multiplayer thing. Now they announced they're gonna come out with like the single player game first. - Oh no. - Like a shooter first. - I wasn't aware of any of this. I didn't know about the
like missed deadlines. I thought it was just
like it's a big game. - [Ian] Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. - I've heard of "Star Citizen," but I don't know much about that. - I feel like "Star Citizen"
was supposed to come out in like 2018 or something like that. - Oh. - And then they just kept pushing, pushing, pushing, pushing. And they just make a lot of money, and they're clearly spending it? - Well, gotta make those ships. - But yeah, yeah, the
way you crowdfund into it is by buying a ship or whatever. - It sounds kinda like
"Eve Online" type of vibe. - Look, it sounds sick. The concept is sick, but
it's also not a game. - Yeah. So this game is still in Alpha. - Yeah. - Jesus. Okay. For (beep)- - You can play it. It's janky.
- 12 years. - It's janky as (beep)
but you can play it. - Okay. All right, part one. "Am I the asshole for
breaking a needless promise "after fixing a situation?" This one-
- Vague. - From Am I the Asshole. "A while back, my significant
other and I hit a rough patch. "I'm an avid player of 'Star Citizen,' "and admittedly I tend
to go overboard with it. "A few months ago during a sale, "I impulsively spent our
saved down payment for a house "on virtual spaceships. "Understandably, she was
furious and temporarily left. "I realized my mistake, apologized, "and took on an extra job
to replenish our savings. "I'm close to restoring
our financial status "to its original state, "though it will take another
six months to fully recover, "not accounting for my personal debt. "As part of," yeah? - Is there a picture of this ship? I mean, it's got look pretty sick. - Not as of yet. - Oh man. It's probably so cool. - It's really a concept of a concept. - You don't get it. It's probably a really
cool ship and worth it. - It might be sick as (beep) - It's probably worth it. - Everyone who's like millennial and gen Z right now is
like cracking a tooth thinking about the down
payment of a house. - We don't have a house. - Something we've never seen. - "As part of reconciling, "she asked me not to
purchase any more spaceships "for six months." (crew laughs) That's insane. - I love that's- - Are you dating Mother Teresa? - Phrases that will break
a Victorian child's mind. (everyone laughs) - No, imagine writing this
to some like 12-year-old in the '50s where it's like, "Okay, so my wife asked me
not to buy any spaceships "for the next six months." The kid's like, "Whoa! "Gee golly, you can buy spaceships?" - And you're like, and it's for a house. And the kid's like, "Oh, so like $12,000." - I can barely afford my
lucky strikes at this rate. I'm 10.
- Hey kid, what should I buy, a house or some spaceships? Like, "Well, gee golly, sir, spaceships." "Initially this seemed
reasonable, but over time-" (Damien groans) So just no spaceships for six months. That's it. - No spaceships for six months. - That's all. "Initially this seemed reasonable, "but over time I've come to
view it as somewhat excessive. "Despite this, I recently
bought a few more spaceships." (Ian laughs) "And she discovered it. "Now considering leaving me for good. "I thought that by nearly
restoring the savings I had spent, "I had made amends for my actions. "I genuinely enjoy collecting
spaceships in the game. "She's also concerned
about my credit score "and other financial issues. "But I'm confident I can rectify
those in the coming years, "given that I've already managed "to recover most of our
savings through extra work. "I'm struggling to understand
if I'm in the wrong "for breaking what now seems
like an arbitrary promise "or if her reaction to leave "over what I consider my
primary hobby is unjustified." - I'm shocked he doesn't
have a railroad spike sticking out of his temple, like... (Shayne laughs) That is the most forgiving
partner of all time, where it's like, "Well,
maybe I might leave." - Oh, someone blowing your
down payment for a house that you guys saved together on something that isn't like
also an investment, that's a- - Oh, but it is an investment. - You wanna know what my line is? That's one of my lines I think. - Look, I think if there's one
lesson we can learn from this is you gotta hide your space ports, guys. (Shayne laughs) - It's true. Do it all on Discord. She'll never know. - Oh god. - Look, I've done a couple
in-game purchases here and there, but I'll tell you what, when
I played "Final Fantasy XIV" and I was dating a girl at the
time and we played together, there are certain mounts in
game that can carry two people, so I spent money on
that because I was like, "Now we can play and fly together." This is insane. - There is a very
reasonable amount of money that people can spend in games like this that I think is totally fine. - That was like 20 bucks. - A down payment on a house is certainly beyond what
I think that number is. - Some of these spaceships
in "Star Citizen" can take like eight people on them. - That's true. She is being a little selfish. - So if her and her
friends wanted to join, you know, they could
all play on a spaceship. - That's true. You move an hour outside the
city to get better prices or you go to Alpha Centauri so that you can all live on your ship. - Some comments here. "You're the asshole. "Don't make promises you can't keep." OP says, "These are
investments too though, "and I don't think she sees it." 130 down votes. - I don't think any of us see it. - Please help us. - I don't think any of us see it. - I don't think we see it, dude. - We're listening. Walk me through. Help me help you. - Someone said, "Of
course you're the asshole, "assuming this isn't a complete lie. "The money you spent on 'Star
Citizen' is gone forever, "and it will never functionally contribute "to your life ever again. "Think of it this way. "You just made yourself
an indentured servant "for a worthless digital spaceship." He said, "I have several spaceships, "some of which have actually
appreciated in value. "Thanks though." 97 down votes. Someone said, "How much we
talking there, spaceman?" (everyone laughs) OP said- - $45,000. - That's such a good burn. I'm sorry. - How much we talking there, spaceman? - Wait, hold on, hold on. Should we guess how much? - Guess how much, and I
don't know where they are. A down payment on a house varies. - And whatever amount he
put on there, he's probably- - Lying. - [Ian] Lying. - So he is gonna lower it. - It's probably more than this, but I would say he's probably spent, oh yeah, are we talking
Midwest down payment prices? - I've got my answer and I can lock it in. - If he's a first time
home buyer, like you're- - That's what I was gonna say. First time home buyer program. He's gonna do the thing where
he can put down less than 20%, but with a higher interest rate. He's gonna put down 10%. He lives three hours outside of the next biggest town in Ohio. He has dropped $28,000. - Okay. - I'm gonna guess, I mean, if he considers
himself an avid collector, he's probably also looking at, I mean, he's probably
so serious about this. I think he spent $60,000. - I'm gonna drop mine to 22
because he got a second job and made it back within six months. 22K.
- That's true. - Okay. OP responds- - Prefab house - OP responds, now this
is what he's saying, so let's keep that in mind. OP says, "I've spent at least
$15,000 on spaceships now. "Maybe a little more
from Gray Market TXN." So at least $15,000. - He was spending Tron on it? Like, the crypto? He said TXN? - Yeah, "maybe a little
more from Gray Market TXN." - I think that's Tron,
which did not do well. - Oh. - Well, he got rid of it - All crypto's stupid, but still... - I mean, this is a guy who's
buying digital spaceships. - That's fine. He's got a Bored Ape. - That's crazy to me. - Yeah, I mean, there's people that, like, there's people that spend more than that on like mobile games. Like, there's- - [Shayne] Right. - Like, there's like whales that spend- - But this is the thing, look,
I still think it's insane, but if you're a multi-multimillionaire
spending $50,000, I'm like, "Yeah, like,
money doesn't even process "for you anymore." But I'm like, that's your
down payment on your house. That is so, like the
percentage of your money that you're putting is like,
I'm like, "Dude, don't." - And that was earmarked for a purpose, so you know what you're losing out on. - And that's also something
you're going in with that with a partner. - [Damien] Yeah. - Like, don't (beep) with that money. - No, it's not yours. And also like I've played a
fair amount of mobile games, and sometimes every once
in a while, I'm like, "You know what? "I'm busy, I'm tired. "I wanna play this more. "I'm gonna spend a little money on it." I don't know what it
would take like for me to actively spend, like you're
saying, thousands of dollars. I would have to work hard to be like, "I'm doing this many purchases." Like, I don't know how you do that. - Yeah. I certainly can't relate. All right, part two. "Update, this is the fleet
that cost me my girlfriend." This is the original post. So now we get to see the fleet. - Oh, sick. - "She's nowhere near as excited
as I am about the Astarra." All right, do you guys
wanna take a look at this? - Yes, dude, it's gonna look so sick. - Look at this fleet. - Whoa! Wait, he's got all those? - I would like to punch
him very hard in the neck. - Yeah, but these are sick. Cool. Okay, so he's got some cargo ships here to like trade like, you
know, minerals and stuff. He's also got some like fighters in here. - I'm gonna go ahead and say the half of these
look stupid as (beep). Some of these are the same. Some of these are almost exactly the same. Some of these look almost identical. Like, these two are the same. These two are the same. He has doubles. - He's got doubles. He's got doubles of that. He's got triples of that. - Well, you know, if one
breaks down, you got the spare. This is all from like recently. So they haven't raised
in price by that much. - I'm sad that this person exists. - But he bought the Astarra
recently so it's probably- - This is also not a game
that is technically released. I guess maybe he figures if and when the game
actually does go gold- - What if he sucks ass at the game? What if the game like starts up for real and he's really bad at the game? - Yeah 'cause I don't remember
if you lose your ship, I don't know if you get it back. Maybe you have insurance. Maybe you have- - No (beep) way. - That's what it is. Mercury keeps insuring you. - God. He has a little update
on that in the comments. "After a lot of begging and promises, "I've convinced significant
other to forgive me. "I figured beforehand since
I am already in the hole, "I might as well buy an
Endeavor master set as well. "What's the harm? "I'm hereby not allowed to
buy spaceships for six months, "and I consider it a
pretty light sentence. "Maybe with good behavior
at work I can be out sooner. "Thanks to everyone who is
respectful and offered guidance. "See you in a few months, citizens." - Stop talking about it like it's jail! (Shayne laughs) Well, I guess I'm in
for this amount of time. They got me in the pokey, and I'll be out soon on good behavior. Get (beep)! You've ruined your relationship. - Okay, it's time for part three. - Oh! - All right. - Oh! - [Shayne] Okay. - Are we skipping forward or moving back? - Now we're finally at the end. - Bring 'em in. - We're at the end here. The first one was January 3rd. Like, the original, original post that you just saw was from
November of last year. - Yeah, okay. Really quick. What was the price of that
other pack that he bought? - The Endeavor master set. - The Endeavor master set- - And that was after
he'd already been caught. - [Emily] Oh my gosh, the Endeavor master set goes for $1,249. - Wow. - Well, I knew that. - She was like, "Don't buy spaceships
for the next six months." He's like, "For sure." - Starting now!
- $1,249. - [Emily] According to a
site called The Impound, The Endeavor master set goes for $1,249. - All right. - That's such like, okay, the only way I can relate
to that is anytime I'm like, "All right, you know what? "I'm gonna cut out drinking
for the next month, "starting tomorrow."
- Tomorrow. (everyone laughs) No more crime later. - Later. (laughs) - Also like knowing now
that the first post is like, "After promising and
begging, she forgives me," and then the second one's like, "Am I an asshole for
not keeping my promise?" It's like, yes, you know that. - Oh my god, this is insane. - And again, this is not
a game that is truly out, nor do we have any indication that that game will
ever be truly released. - Look, you can buy some
automatic level up packs, an awesome outfit, and a cool
mount in "Final Fantasy XIV" for I think less than a hundo. - You could be Peter
Griffin in "Fortnite," okay? - You could be Peter
Griffin in "Fortnite." - Yeah. - Like be Peter Griffin in "Fortnite." - You should just do that. - You can hit the griddy for free. (everyone laughs) - All right, part three. This is the finale. - [Ian] Let's go. - This is where it ends. "31-year-old man, can I rebuild trust "with my girlfriend, who's 35, "after gaming addiction
ruined our apartment plans?" Okay. - Sorry, wanna point out real quick, it went from down payment on
a house to apartment plans. Please continue. - Okay. "31-year-old male facing
a crisis I never expected. "My girlfriend," (scoffs) I never expected this. - Am I an asshole for getting
consequences for my actions? - I didn't see this coming. "My girlfriend and I had plans to move "to a better apartment,
but I jeopardized our dream "by spending our savings on
'Star Citizen,' a video game. "This incident has made me realize "that I might be battling
a gaming addiction "and impulsive spending." I might be. "Despite her initial forgiveness "and a clear agreement to
not buy more in-game items "for six months while
replenishing our savings, "I failed to stick to our plan. "This breach of trust
led to a major argument, "especially after I refused her suggestion "to sell my gaming account. "Consequentially she left,
and we haven't spoken since. "This situation has hit me hard, "making me see how my gaming
habit has turned from a hobby "into a destructive force in my life. "I'm struggling with the realization "that my actions have not
only damaged my relationship, "but are also affecting
my financial stability "as my credit score is now in jeopardy. "The most painful part is
recognizing how much I love her "and the extent of the turmoil I'm in. "I'm earnestly seeking advice
on how to address my addiction "and possibly salvage my relationship." - Hey. I mean first step is admitting. - Yeah, yeah. - Yeah, I'm gonna have a mea culpa here because like it was fun to make fun of him and be like, "You idiot." But like, putting it in that lens, like he very clearly is
battling a real addiction and addiction is a real monster no matter what form it takes. That's just sad though. - Oh, for sure. I mean, that is behavior that is clearly indicative
of like something beyond. I think it's the nature of what he was spending the money on. Like, it usually comes in other forms, so seeing it in this way. - But I was doing the thing
that I was making fun of. I'm just like, "It's gaming!" Like, I'm guilty of it now too. - But I would say for this guy,
yes the first step is huge. If he's truly recognizing it, like I think he needs to
move away from that game. He probably can make a lot
of that money back possibly. Like, he was buying those spaceships so maybe other people would buy them. I don't know. - I wonder though, like if there's- - You could sell your account, right? People do that with "WoW." - That's probably more what
it is 'cause I know people, like I think he's buying it from in game, so I don't know if there's a
direct person to person sale of ships in games like that. Because I'm assuming if, like you said, the game is all about
like milking as much money as you can from your player base that doesn't even exist yet right now, I doubt they would allow people to make their own market yet. I don't know though. - I don't know. - I don't know, but I think he needs to look into those possibilities. He needs to get away from the game. And he needs to probably
talk to a therapist and seek out help in whatever ways he can. - Yeah. - I think he should take those steps first before trying to salvage his relationship 'cause if he's gonna go to
her and try to salvage that, it needs to be like, "I've
already taken the steps. "I'm already doing this." - Yeah. Talk is cheap. - But he also might have to
accept that that might be over. But I think regardless
of that relationship, if he doesn't get this, like
doesn't figure this out, doesn't like keep on track with that, yeah, he's gonna end up in a bad place. 'Cause it won't just be "Star Citizen." He'll find something else
that money will come out from, you know? Comments here. "If you believe that this
is your lowest point, "start making an effort to
make an upward trajectory "for yourself. "Is this game more important "than in real life relationships? "What could you possibly
spend that amount of coin on? "I game but have never spent "that kind of money in game before. "I really think long and hard "if I really need that
new mount, et cetera, "and usually end up with
no being the answer." OP said, "It's not, but I
don't think I can sell yet." 228 down votes. Someone said, "Mate, in your last posts, "you were fighting in the comments "about how your purchases were justified "and appreciating in value "and your girlfriend's simple request "to stop blowing all her and your money "on them wasn't reasonable. "I mean this respectfully, "get serious help for your addiction. "You're in shock right now
because you convinced yourself "she wasn't going to leave you. "Then she did. "When the shock wears off, "you're going to go right
back to blowing any money "on imaginary spaceships and
justifying it to yourself "and everyone around you. "Get help whilst the
momentum is in your favor." OP said, "I am definitely in shock. "My life is falling apart, I guess." 40 down votes. But like it's tough. You know, those aren't the
responses you're hoping for. You're hoping for him
to respond and be like, "I totally hear you. "I need to get help. "You're right." Like, but he's still resistant
and that is unfortunate. - It is, with any addiction, you do have to hit your rock bottom. And I love that the
first person didn't use that exact verbiage, but they were like, "If you feel like this
is your lowest point," 'cause sometimes like unfortunately when you're that direct with someone, they're not ready to hear it. And I just hope this person gets help. It's so sad. - Yeah. It's tough. Well, these have been
a lot of crazy stories. - Yeah, gamers are taking Ls lately. (everyone laughs) - I'm glad we got the first
two nice ones out of the way. - Yeah. Yeah. - Like, "I'm ready to grow." And they're like, "Time
to burn it all down." - These are some sad stories, y'all. - Yeah, I gotta say, you know, as far as my favorite comments, despite the nature of the story, "how much we talking there,
spaceman," is extremely funny. - So funny. - That's extremely funny. - I think when like an insult is better than anything you could have
said with like curse words, like just calling someone spaceman. (everyone laughs) It's like just psychic damage. Roll 10d8. Oh God! - Well, thank you guys for joining me. This has been a wild ride. - Thanks for playing co-op. - Yeah, dude. Hell yeah. - What do you say we go,
let's go play "Star Citizen." Let's buy some ships. - Let's go play "Star Citizen." - I think I know an
account that's available. - Oh? - [Shayne] Yep. - Ooh. - I think we can buy some somewhere. - Use some of that YouTube money. - Getting that Endeavor
master set after this. - Getting the Endeavor master set. - Hey, no. - No. No, I'm gonna go play "Zelda." - I'm probably gonna go
play a nice indie game. - I'll probably redownload "Civ" and lose my life to it again. - Hell yeah. All right. - New Games video. Can I beat Ian bad enough in "Civ" that he never wants to play again? - Ooh, that should be a Games video. - I've never played- - That's a good idea you had. - Wait, did I say- (Damien laughs) I thought you meant in real life. Sorry, I thought you
said, I thought you said- - Please leave it in. That's funny as (beep) - I thought you said like you
were just gonna go after this and like do it. - No, I said, "Oh, that's
a good Games video." - Oh, I didn't hear that. - Yeah, sure. Do you guys wanna see a
24 hour long Games video? - For charity? - We could cut it down. I don't know. I'd want to see it. - I'd be open. - I think it'd be great. - You're on the spot now. What if we did this for
24 hours for charity? Wouldn't you like that? - I'll do it. I'll do it. - All right, thank you guys for watching. Thank you both for being here. - Later, gamers. - And let us know what
other types of themes and subreddits you wanna see on this show. And we'll see you next Saturday. Goodbye! - Happy birthday if it's your birthday. - Bye.
