Pharrell On His Legendary Career, Working With Snoop, Justin Timberlake, Nigo & More | Drink Champs

[Music] neptunes i'm here with my brother family you and we on drink champs and um drink champs is important because it's more than just alcohol and it's more than just the mood and the loosening that the alcohol has the ability to do it's also the spirit of the people who nori and dj efn like our brother who they've decided to have on here it's the things that they talk about and how their per their personalities collide and this is listen this is a purple rain skateboard right this is purple rained pontinetta but because they know who to have on here and they know what the variable the alcohol is gonna do we all have really spirited conversations and it makes for like a lot of like really enlightened um listening so that is the reason why you should listen to during champs what it could be hopefully this is what it should be this is your boy n-o-r-e what up it's dj efn and this is military crazy bro i don't know why i keep saying that happy hour drink chance [ __ ] happy hour make something now when we started this show we said we wanted to do legends only so this brother that's standing in front of me for me is the best producer of all times all times i'm talking about this is our quincy jones i see him see music i've seen him come into a session and just say yo and just change it and just the session become turquoise or purple and it just changed the man has he's a producer there's people that make beats and there's people that produce this is the producer's producer then he's converged on into being an artist and he conquered that and he he can work from anybody to nre to madonna and make it make sense the man is like jesus he walks on water and i don't see the pillowcases gone in case you don't know who i'm talking about i'm talking about the incredible the impeccable for real [ __ ] [Applause] now i purposely didn't look at you when i was saying that because i know how humble you are you know i've known you for 20 years i know how humble you are but you are to certain people i'm [ __ ] to certain people you are to me one the best producer of all time like i mean i've worked with everyone this is me me and my career um you're the best producer i've ever worked with well first of all let me just say that i um i'm you guys can hear me yeah yeah okay um i'm wearing my mask cause i got 19 kids and my parents are approaching 70. so right you know we all tested it but i'm just listening to my wife testimony everybody tell me let's do it that's how important you are for us we still got things back to you that's right that's how important you are to us but so for us being that you're not going to drink ace of spade are you not going to drink it just because you know jay-z personally asked would you when i get you high and did you just explain so if you're not can you pick which bottle i should drink why not the pink one i already knew it goddammit i already knew what god damn it okay so i wanted to say first and foremost um uh congratulations on you know the continuation of your career yes thank you um and when i say continuation i mean we're all pluralists and somehow when you're in the music industry they convince you to only focus on one thing because they feel like you know they only want you to pay attention to their interest right and eventually you know the the the these people in senior league leadership positions of these companies recognize that these other potential revenue streams for these artists could also be you know uh contributors to the marketing to their partnership um but you saw this early you were on this early i remember when you were talking to me about it like yeah you know i'm thinking about going into this thing like i got this idea i got this concept i used to always have a camera i didn't know why i still always have a camera so that was like the prediction my point is you were one of the first to do that make some noise and and and you stayed focused until you realized exactly how you could like you know grow the audience and monetize it and i think that's a that that's beautiful and i want to also say that i am grateful that you would even you know that i'm even will want to have me on come on you crazy because i think you guys you guys talk about things you know you bring interesting guests on here who really really say things that sometimes uh shock people sometimes enlighten people and i feel like you know you know i've always been like that about myself like i don't really find myself interesting i'm always interested in the people i can collaborate with so i've always felt like i would always be like a boring interview you're wrong you're wrong i'm just saying thank you let's take it from the beginning thank you in the beginning is when i googled you which i you know you're a person i shouldn't have to google but i wanted to do my research thoroughly so it said early 90s now when they say early 90s what did they mean like what was you were you and chad hooked up in school correct yeah yeah we were in high school um started making music then um we met when we were like 12. started making music when we were like 15 16. um we got discovered when we were in high school and so once we got out of high school um you know we went straight in with teddy and uh teddy riley for people yeah teddy riley you know he did you know the dangerous app he did a lot of songs on a dangerous album with michael i mean he's teddy is a legend yeah um it takes two i mean the show yeah the show with dougie fresh slick rig like classics guy black street he's i could just keep going on with this guy the guy did johnny kim's just got paid like he said or you want you're going to acquaint whatever you want whatever you we live in your world brother you want some swine swan um tequila you want some micheladas you know what i'm gonna i'm gonna i'm gonna go with the censer okay all right cool we don't know how to open that but we'll figure it out okay so i'm gonna go with the sensor um so when they say early 90s our first thing that we ever did was uh tonight's the night for black street whoa and then um and that was uh that was written by tammy lucas who's on super thug that yes yes yes yes yes she's the reason why teddy paid attention to us by the way she and i she went to teddy was like yo you got to like pay attention to these guys wow yeah the rumor is that you guys ghost produce one shaker that's the rumor the truth is my first time meeting teddy it was like 11 o'clock at night which this is when i first realized that like people in the music industry are vampires right people talk to me about being a vampire these guys are vampires they literally wake up in the evening and the session doesn't start until eleven sometimes two o'clock in the morning and then they go until you know it's like eight o'clock in the morning you leave in the studio you listening to what you just did you know i'm saying that was a that was a new world to me that's that's when teddy showed me like there was a nocturnal world of creativity i never knew that right we worked like we went to work right we worked in the daytime and [ __ ] and that's on purpose that they would work that way yeah yeah but it's a very real thing thank you good brother yeah um and then um so for the record i don't know if you answered that or not yeah yeah yeah let's get into it okay tonight's tonight oh no no no no no i'm talking about i'm shaking no no no no no no okay tonight's the night and i'm saying but but before tonight's tonight my first time meeting teddy he was working on rum shaker it was like 11 o'clock at night and so all i want to do is zoom zoom zoom zoom yeah they have everything yeah our kill had put his first down markel had his verse down and teddy was like yo i you know can't you know can you can you you i heard you rap he's like yeah he's like can you write my verse for me i was like all right cool rap reverse or write my voice right right okay yeah he said can you write my virtually so i went in and like i don't know you know 30 30 30 40. this is breaking news for us or denied the story so the rumor was you made the beat so that's where the the card people people mistake that but no i could never i could have never made that beat that beat was like that beat transcended genres to me you know we don't know if we know our show was about saluting our brother so we want to salute you salute you my brother because you know what bro you so you wrote teddy's verse let's take it from there boom then what happened on a classic record classic that's still to this day bumps and then now this is your your because where's your producer artist first that was my next well we were we were just like we were self-con we couldn't we considered ourselves self-contained artists you know what i'm saying you can do it all listen you know what i love this is like so like this is like soul thug super thug barbershop [ __ ] is people got all masks and people smoking weed you can't have a mask if you're smoking or drinking that way we by the way am i the only weirdo who's ever won a mass in the movie so far okay it's okay it's okay your family listen man did you drink that with the mouse gun i [Applause] so was that your first time like because i i know i'm bouncing all over the place but you know i've had sessions for you with you for 20 years and i've walked into sessions sometimes when you're working with the artist and you have a complete record for them yeah and i just never knew that i i didn't know i know that sounds a little new but i didn't know that people would present records like that i think i think that was the first experience i ever saw like where he was like you like oh he was like usher or justin timberlake and it would be you do the whole i didn't know that that's what you did at the time like it blew me away i think it was in south beach studios the marlin studios yes sir yes and i was just he was just playing me records and i was sitting back like holy [ __ ] i didn't know that's what you did well you know it's interesting that you say that because when you say south beach you take me back to when we made nothing that's right and you were you were kind enough because i knew that beat the original beat was not good enough right and and they were kind of like i think even chris was like what you talking about right like what do you mean like it's it's cool and i was like no no no come on let's just uh i had this it's going to be a little long story but just just stick with me i had just jairu lived next door to me at the time john rule's driving may backs he's driving all this crap i'm i'm i'm good but i'm not jot real good so i go do a gyro record like a bozo and leo combs comes to the studio i don't know if you know this part i don't know if you know this part but leo cones comes to the studio and he has the gyro video and he plays it and it's me with my boys running around with lamborghinis and you know just just all this fancy rich [ __ ] and he goes to me how do you like it and i go i love it and my boy is like he love it and then leo says it's popcorn and i never looked at popcorn as a bad thing in my life he said it's popcorn and i was like what but he meant pop music he said he said he said i want to tell you a story nori so he said if i cut you what would you believe so i said i would bleed blood and he said now ask me the same question so i said if i cut you what would you believe leo cohen said run dmc sucker mc so i looked at him i was like damn that's [ __ ] great answer why did i say that so he says to me i'ma ask you this one more time as your solo career if i cut you what would you believe i said super thug he said exactly for us in virginia waiting for you go out there and he had already set up the session with you so i went to virginia remember the original was all you dudes really ready to ride all you do is want to come inside oh he said this is you've learned to ride and then you know ready so what you want to do it was a whole different beat yeah it was a whole different beat and there's a whole different intro to that and you told me to study the jungle brothers yeah you remember that yes yes he was like um it was uncle sam mike g say what the joy in the slam what is manager chris they're joining this land five thousand booming watts sound system state of the art now listen to nothing n-o-r pop b say what that [ __ ] man what is manager chris in the label the jazz still flossing show on your watch you ain't you dudes hurry girl you may be still you know what i'm saying they make some noise but you know what the first one you gave me before that it was he was like yo listen to vanilla ice ice ice baby you remember that you know what that was hollow back youngin i it's ice ice baby look rolling go to the eat this i'm sorry all right so let's let's let's bring it back right okay yeah we fast forwarded a little bit marlin right tomorrow yeah so let's get back to you writing all these these because at first like i just thought you was a hip-hop producer i didn't realize how how super talented you was like when you delivered these records to the people these people you're giving them a piece of your soul like how how did you develop that is that producing producing or is that i think we were just finding our way you know what i'm saying i think i think for us more than anything else it was more like you know um we we were like man we from virginia we don't know how long this is gonna last like yo take that opportunity and like really really excavate as much as you can out of it you know all the excavate all the opportunity out of it that you can it's like yo i'm working with guys out of new york i'm in virginia like you know there's no death jam in in norfolk there's no like rca in virginia beach like and who was like mad skills was one of the few that had come out yeah but he was but he was up the road so he wasn't really around him like that because y'all virginia beach right yeah we virginia beach we love him that's our brother but like you know that was like up the road you know that that richmond mass was it wasn't maryland or dc but it might as well have been in terms of distance like you were driving to hampton you drive to newport news but richmond was like that was outrageously amazing like the beginning of the south no because baltimore is not the south maryland is not the south then is it virgin is it is the south starts in virginia so maryland is the south baltimore is the south it's virginia baltimore it's not the south now i mean technically it is yeah really yeah my 43 years on this earth means nothing i've never thought of the baltimores being the south i mean i don't know if people in baltimore consider themselves to south yeah but that's the south even in football it's not the south it's it's the eastern football right sunny look up okay eastern yeah yeah but it's like it ain't it's not in new york it's like dmv we're like the south we listen you know we all listen to go go so dc is considered the south too i mean that's like yo my child is all [ __ ] up right now you can say you can say it's up north from us right but it's south of new york new york feels like north to us right up north is the tri-state area i'm saying dc still what'd you say i mean we're all on the east coast okay yeah this is that's it yeah i think what you're thinking the tri-state area is what is the real northeast that's it that's all we got we got new york that's jersey and philly and that's pretty much northeast that's a whole other world the way they drastically talk everything that's not you know philly's another world but it's still a part of us philly is really still phillies but by the way that's why they're part of the tri-state you feel me like once you get outside of the tri-state like you know you get to that you know you start to get into them different kind of draws southern drawls and you know what i'm saying the way they dress different and the the fact that first of all i think philly is probably philly is where mc's are born they just grow mc's come from the demonic goodness yeah you know what i'm saying and the music there the music calendar is unbelievable you know what i'm saying um but once as soon as you get outside of that you hit that dc you know go go i see people fishing in the club yeah yeah crazy crazy that's that bait song so you could see yourself a south producer yes yes but you know if i'm gonna say like where it came from first um right off the cuff and i don't want anybody to get mad at me because my maryland folks was mad at me when i said something about gogo and i didn't really mean it that way just because i was only really thinking about baltimore at the time but you know when i think about like music coming out of the south i'm i'm going to say atlanta and and and miami to me atlanta and miami made a lot of noise influenced you what what from these areas influence well first of all i mean in the 80s like the miami base was like everything right you know what i'm saying like the gucci cruise mcshid stuff like that [Music] holy [ __ ] hey man you made me love you breaking up miami yeah wow okay all right so bouncing around right michael the the nerves yes sir all right what is the difference from the nerves and the neptunes so nard was created because for a very long time we were trying as artists as the neptunes to get a deal but that never happened because i was just way too out there and too crazy and and time wasn't ready for me and i wasn't ready for time um and so the context just never made sense but then you know just started like my influence being out there more like with the way i dress and you know just like you know like swagging and like saucing on other people's records and [ __ ] the market started to warm up and pretty much the gatekeepers the anrs had to it had to be their idea first when i was presenting and it was like remember like i'll never forget your manager rest in peace love uh baby chris man i'll never forget like one day i was just like rapping so long just kind of you know because at the time i could also like freestyling [ __ ] and i was freestyling and then they like picked up the phone call like while i was still rapping and uh i was just so full of myself at that time i didn't give a [ __ ] i just kept rapping or whatever like rob walker tell you that that was a very funny story because chris was like yo yo hold on a second i'm still rapping and [ __ ] he walk out and take a call and come back like you know chris was real like that and uh but it was it was one of those things where like it just wasn't that time so by the time we met kalis and then we put her album out over at um virgin you know keith uh keith woods at the time right yeah janet jackson lenny kravitz and a lot of great rock acts were there and that's so it's like after we did the police album um and she came out and she was a she was a success um we felt like they felt like you know well what about you guys why don't you guys make a record i was like well i don't want to make a record called the neptunes at this point we're known as production like we need to be something else and that's when no one ever really dies was born which was nard but you don't to a certain extent you thought that was capping like calling yourself nervous because yeah you're really not a nerd no but i but when i think of nerds if you think about it right it's an acronym which is no one ever really dies right you know the revenge of the nurse those guys were horn dogs yes they were bad they were horny dudes bro all right that's what i think of you know sorry buddy here's the thing we grew up in the 90s right we grew up in the 80s and 90s where where the nerds ended up they they were kids in school but they ended up like driving the bmws and the mercedes you know and getting the silicon valley that's all the nerds from the 80s so we thought that that was super cool every time that comes on i think it's a beat about the drop because there's a note it's go it goes boom that's how you know he's a producer look at that you got to make a beat out of it um i want to get back to you for uh a bit because i know you're humble and i respect that but you need to be given your flowers um you're actually if if not the best which i say you are but the way quincy jones put melodies together and put projects together you're quincy jones of rapt can you accept that i cannot oh my god wow we're going to get this and you also you also you also let's take a shot of your swan [ __ ] come on let's go let's go let's take a shot of that what is it called it doesn't matter it's taking a shot of it it's called it's called purple rain purple wing goddammit cut that oh shotgun you got shot glasses okay give me some of that purple [Laughter] give me a shot of that too okay please double shot double oh [ __ ] big boy from outcast just text me that's crazy we got goody mo up on monday yo i'm so glad you're here i'm gonna take it i'm gonna take a shot wow don't think i'm forgetting my subject okay you well look let's so so let me let me take my mask off for this lord forgive me i'm i'm not supposed to be doing this but you want to take a shot crazy no of course okay i'll take my shot off just to say this you know cheers see if it goes immediately text me as soon as i took that that's good so so so when you first introduced me you said super kind things but you also included jesus right and i just want to be clear like for anybody that does believe or people who are atheists or whatever god is the absolute greatest i could never ever be compared and i knew it was i know you were being colorful i knew you were being poetic i was trying to do a parable that's of course both yeah of course but i just have to humble myself in that moment to just be like yo god is the greatest wow you got a show about god on netflix right what my uncle does call yeah voices of fire okay what is this about let's break that down so that is my uncle um and then i want to get back to giving it up to the guy okay so you know my uncle um it was a child prodigy and uh at playing piano and he was a is a renowned um on the gospel where he was a renowned uh organist and pianist they played for a lot of churches and at some point you know it was his calling to also become a a pastor and he became a bishop and i just thought man if he has all of that talent and was known previously as being this great you know musician that his choir needed to be amazing and hampton roads has so much talent that we wanted to make sure that we gave them a platform to build the you know a great choir that pulled from all of you know newport news hampton uh newport news hampton norfolk virginia beach uh portsmouth um chesapeake suffolk to pull them all in to get the best people who could arguably all sing lead if they wanted to but have to work within the confines of being a choir and not being the one to sing the lead so being so good that you're able to be humble and can be part of something bigger than yourself so that was uh voices of fire goddamn make some noise for voices thank you that's beautiful so i want to go back to this thing okay gotta go god is the greatest man goddamn god and i'm not i'm not perfect i'm not sinless but i i know when i look of them like i used to say it on my own like like a lot of a lot of my career like man why me like how did i get here and i know you've questioned it i'm sure you have as well but the key is is because i think i think the universe puts us in this position because they because it knows that we're gonna give back it knows that we are gonna take our experiences and share the codes with our other brothers and sisters and that's the reason why you know maybe somebody else might not have wanted to share the codes and you know that in the music industry where you see some people doing well other people not and it's only until you start feeling lucky that someone pulls you to the side and gives you the code like why should we feel lucky friends eventually positive energy positive intervention sometimes why should we feel lucky that our brother or our sister is sharing the codes there's something wrong with the culture you know what i'm saying so for me i know it's my duty i know i'm not just having these experiences because my own glorification of my own enjoyment is because i'm meant to share the codes i'm gonna get another shot of purple rain and we just got to continue to do that we got to share the codes man [ __ ] oh goddamn cold so yeah i want another shot of purple rain goddamn i don't know what it is i'm not even going to ask what it is no it's just it's it has tequila in there but that there's a there's a natural flower that turns it purple um all right i'm bouncing around a little bit okay now we got uh the human race yes sir okay you guys they got skin cream too oh yeah is that called human race as well yeah so this sneakers apparel god damn it human race right and then skincare by the way we got a box for you we got a boxer goddamn it can we can we bring it out let's go bring it out me and my wife remember my wife right there yeah yeah we're going to do some skincare god damn it we're going to do it it looks beautiful yeah fill me film it okay okay you can you open it so i don't know i want you to open it okay all right cool just so you can i'm not a good opener something over yeah no i'm bored yeah i'm not a good oh yeah give give him his gift we got some gifts too we got some gifts from you too god damn we holy [ __ ] all right i can take the tape off right yeah all right cool all right boom all right now when you got the camera zooming in on it come on now all right thank you thank you thank you this is too fly you know what i'm saying this is double box you know what's that come on okay well help me out um [Music] give it to him human race make some money it is it looks beautiful good that's me yeah and this stuff right here too as well and look there's another box it's like the the russian dick look at that you're focusing on that yo yeah holy [ __ ] so this is so elegant this is like i feel like i'm opening the gq box thank you uh so here's the thing okay so this right here oh okay check this out this was made in japan this is and then this right here shows you like where to put it this goes in your room so that's your rice powder cleanser wow this is your exfoliator that has an aha glycolic acid in it and it also has a the lotus enzyme in there right and that helps like exfoliate and then it's the humidifying cream which also has a snow mushroom in it which locks in moisture this is what's going to go in y'all's bathroom system goddammit make some moisture massage for no reason yeah yeah yeah come on mr lee put it back together neatly please put it in my car come on oh come on this is this is let me take my shot let me take my shot it's good yo did you hit your burger ring oh yeah and now i know i'm bouncing around a little bit but uh you got a chance to work with uh snoop dogg this is after snoop had went through his turmoil with death row and then uh he went to no limit and then after that you got a chance to work with snoop how how was that for you so i think i'm i'm trying to remember and i'm really sorry if my memory is not serving me correctly but i think when we did church to the palace and beautiful i think that was i think that was on no limit oh really yeah okay i'm not sure i think that was yeah you guys don't know let me i think that works yeah come on how's you just standing around come on you sitting around thinking like we thinking hey cuz what are you on no limit still that was it oh it was right after that why because that was the one with snoops huh beautiful felt like that was right after he left no limit i think it was okay maybe it was hey yeah but we got google we i mean we can't it's 20 20. senor google will tell us you can't guess yeah let it shine let it shine make sure you got that on camera oh man nah thank you yeah i didn't even intend it i just wanted to present it to you yeah let it shine baby come on wasn't that the one that was on no limit that album polly graham was such a priority yeah yeah well that's what he made and he became like an executive priority yeah and he released all those albums but my i guess my question should be a little shocking sorry about that is um you know this is this is a legend right he and he's worked with dr dre he's working with all these other people is that pressure for you to produce do something more or like what do you do like when you're in a situation like that you know i think pressure comes from um from uh the idea of of of having to face the idea or the notion that you could fail right and there's a lot of time there's there's a lot of people that spend a lot of time doing that and as i said to you before we're from virginia i never lost that feeling like man wait what i get a chance to work with snoop the only thing i'm focused on in on is how crazy it could be and my only job is to try to match what i'm doing with that feeling of man you know how crazy this could be that's when i knew just for a second that's when i knew like nothing was not where they needed to be right until we got to that place and i was like no do you understand like yo we did super thought right right yeah we gotta and we did oh no oh no we had fun yes yes right and then even some of our like other records that weren't even singles are good businesses like we did we had joints like one of our underrated ones and we'll go back to to to to big bro snoop is um grammy i didn't translate in the video when people see me in the video i didn't look believable i was just overweight i was stressed out so it's my fourth that record didn't work i'm gonna be honest i'm taking that one okay i'm gonna say that one because like i mean it was it was translate because you know who picked that record la reid wow l.a we hand-picked that record he was like i'm going to bat for this record but it was was i was just so i was dealing with so much at the time i couldn't focus on me so the record was great but um like i told that to buster i was like yo this time you know what well i'm busters i'm sorry i'm all over the place but buster's album he has the look and the records yeah sometimes you have the look and you won't have the record sometimes you have the records and the general looks yeah and that's how do you enjoy buster's this album man i'm so happy for him it's also our so happy for him bro because he doing what he want to do and how he want to do it and he's saying all the [ __ ] he want to say and by the way he continues to reinvent himself every time yeah definitely happy for big bro man i enjoyed it so let's get back to um snoop snoop yes so with snoop it was like man he came in on his tour bus and uh you know he was like yo just give me that [ __ ] p and i was like okay and uh you know uh he would we were working in there and then like once i was ready he would come down off his tour bus because we were still working in um master sound at the time it was hovercraft we had chad and i bought the studio and he when he came in we did church to palace he loved that and he really loved beautiful i didn't i didn't get beautiful i didn't get beautiful mainly because i was on there singing flat as [ __ ] and um just just didn't hear it i i thought it was a fun record right and we put charlie wilson on i was like man charlie's sounding amazing and this feels good to me but no one's ever going to go for this so yeah so i thought church to palace because it was harder and then when that record popped i was like wow you know and and snooze always been that guy that's like yo take me there i trust you and you could tell that he worked with a seasoned you know a really seasoned genius producer who was really really our generation's greatest producer of all time is dr trey number two know no he's sorry man i got you number one bro just let it go okay letting it go letting it go but dr dre is like man dr dre bro yeah but we respect him of course we love him but um but um um snoop was just like snoop you know what my our greatest rap records are always when i'm in the studio with someone who's a personality right and you guys were always like personalities i didn't get a chance to work with capone when i first met you capone had just he had gotten locked up already see that's just sound like the it's a beat it's a beat it's a beat it's a b well wait for the beat for you to make the introduction you got some purple rain cause i'm taking another shot i got it you want a little bit more purple take a shot with me here come on purple ring i ain't gonna lie i'm going to swan and ordering purple rain this is dan look i'm taking a shot he's taking the whole glass yeah um that's it good that's why i wish you didn't tell me what's the killer in there because it's so good i might so now i'm gonna be careful cause i hate to kill it i you only get the tequila when you just want your energy to be turned up mm-hmm but i hate to taste i hate this i can't taste it this is why this is where the flowers are yeah this is that swine by the way okay that's that swan got that yep that's swine um and um you know for me like i just feel like characters are always the ones that like i'm able to give context to you know mona lisa was a character but da vinci was able to put the track behind her that made her face makes sense with that because if you take that if you get her out of the photo and just look at the backdrop it's like some rolling hills a little bit of water big deal but it was perfect for her right and that's what i've always enjoyed as a musician chad and i is to you know we did what it is right now for buster i would have never been able to make that beat if it weren't for him if buster wouldn't have walked in the studio with that energy and i had made it for him but that's just like what it is kalisto on there yeah yep and um you know you super thug it's like malik was was uh really good friends with rob walker yep and he was like yes this guy nora you should check them out and i i knew who you were because of um blood money because there's not too many like thuggish characters who are really dedicated to being a character as much as they're dedicated to being a thug there's you there's camron you know there's just different guys you know there are new guys that i like today that i feel like they go into character and like i just really love what they do right and their verbs are great but it's the the idea that they're willing to go there the baby has that you know black youngster has that wow you know what i'm saying like they go into they they stay the character the whole time a black youngster tick tock is as is as funny entertaining and as hard as his song you got tick-tock no oh okay and people don't know the baby's been around for a while he's just like actually yes man i remember bt it was years ago like he's he's he's like really he's like really a character he's dedicated to that right you know what i'm saying nelly is another one like mo people don't know mo real mo is very real right and he stayed in that character the whole time band-aid under the eye you know what i'm saying go to doing the dance doing this you know what i'm saying yeah like but those kind of guys snoop is one of them i know i digressed a bit but i wanted to make the scent make the picture like there's a reason you mentioned him because there's him you uh focus on him i'm sorry to cut you off the reason i kind of focus on him is because he had this whole luxury career prior to you so what i'm thinking is like yo are you thinking like you go you're gonna mess this up i'm gonna i'm not gonna rank uh less record than you know what i mean what he what he's done with dr dre is that that's what i'm saying is there is impression no way i'm like man i want to do whatever it takes to add to that and i know what my i know what my ultimate competition was i knew i had to make something that felt as good not better but as good as one night seven on that this is what a lot of people don't know how much of a hip-hop person you like you really are like oh my god yeah and i think that's the most is it would you say it's important to maintain that fandom to be creative with these people yes man listen hey when i first heard this one too long ago but i'm just trying to tell you these moments that when i feel it and i just fall over and i can't do anything with myself but just roll over and just die over and over again right when i heard gucci manes peeping out the blinds have you heard that song fine that these [ __ ] find that these [ __ ] find that these [ __ ] outside i feel like malcolm x is people ain't not the blind there's going to be 500 [ __ ] outside when i'm not finding these [ __ ] fighting the siren and finding these [ __ ] outside i feel like malcolm makes some people and all the blinds it's going to be funnies understand it's all shocking who your man now click man down click clack who your man now i know you're hurt by gucci man oh my god you guys have to hear that yeah [Applause] first time i heard juvenile i was in new orleans i was i was in there doing a puerto rican show like that in new orleans it's the weirdest [ __ ] ever like you got puerto ricans on it yeah but um yeah yeah so what was your what is that first experience like when you hear other when you hear other people's records and in this dope do you say i wish i could have made that or do you say what are you doing i guess i reckon that you ever heard you said i wish i would have made that a better question oh my god there's so many let's give me one up top tribe called quest lyrics to go damn i knew you was gonna go to tribe i just found out i i just lyrics to go i was at tammy lucas's house me gnu cam we bought that [ __ ] for the first time we was over there listening to that [ __ ] and shay shea [Music] something's amazing it's like yo you die and then like and then bruh when he say [ __ ] like fam when he says like um you know when people are boxing and you know somebody is drunk and they about to get knocked out be like nah he did he did he did you say oh he's in the coffin okay and or when someone's been drinking too much and you know they just finished for the night we're like he's dead he did yeah he's been dead a couple of times man and then when it's real bad you're like yo call he in the coffin no bro come get him in the coffin when it's real bad you'll be like yo maggots she's maggots right now he's maggot come get him oh that's what it's not but we but we find that comical because you see a person that and they in the mix and it's like you already know they're about to have another a rough 24 hours of waking up crazy hangover just finished so we just you know so there's two kind of context of using the word dying and dead we try to stay away from the third one yeah yeah it's all about life yeah you've always been a guy that's always been like a woman is around all the time yeah how do you develop that man i think women are the greatest gift to us they actually give us life you know i don't understand hating women in any way shape or form because that's forgetting where you actually come from every last human being walking around here came from a woman unless you came out of a test tube and you know god bless you but other than that like other than that like i don't know where to go with this girl but right i mean right all of us come from that amazing silver lining of an elevator through the conduit of a woman's body so how could you how could you hate on what gave you life you know what i'm saying and the other thing is like i say this all the time you know you know man we'll never know what it's like to be a woman because once a month they go through some [ __ ] that we'll never be able to understand and they got to keep a smile on their face and they got to continue to deliver they got to continue to work they can come to work and talk to you about what they what what what in the native american culture they call the moon they can't talk about when they go through their moon or through their cycle or whatever they got to just do what they do i will never know can you imagine feeling like [ __ ] for three four five six days and you still gotta perform all 30 days of the month for 31 days of the month right um and then and then and then the other thing that we'll never know the burden of being a woman is well there's lots of them right like societal burdens that they get put through they don't even get paid the same of us like it's like we couldn't even imagine it's actually a real thing that's a real [ __ ] thing it's like 70 cents on a man's dollar wow yeah so like but then and that's a lot of them right i'm not talking about you know women like sheryl sandberg who they supersede but even she could just tell you like she goes through things through things as well or like you know our new vice president elect um you know harris you know kamala harris like she could tell you things that she's going through um even in the highest position like one of the leaders of the free world but the other thing that women do too man is they bring life into this world they literally hold on to life like we don't as men we don't know what that's like we got to do [ __ ] they they keep doing stuff while they're carrying life in their bodies like my wife literally had four heartbeats in her body at one time because she had triplets oh wow that's what i forgot right so she grew through sets three sets of organs in her body wow while she had her own set of organs so literally my wife had four heartbeats going on at once wow it's amazing it's just my my feeling for women i love them from from a lovely place i love them from a lustful place i love them all the way around and i just you know they've always been a huge motivational force for my music you know there's always that there's always like women were always the concern like okay what are the girls going to think you know when they hit its beat or how they gonna feel when they hear this this this melody or you know what i'm saying so that's really the reason why i've always just had them and in the beginning like you know from from super thug on um when we would play records so you would play records back you wouldn't play a record unless a woman was in the sec you would be like yo hold on lori like you like you're like no no let's just just make sure like you always wanted a woman's opinion yeah and that's the reason why i knew super dog would work with the woman oh yeah i don't know if you remember but super thug my album was done i'm gonna get to the first day i met you my album was done and you said to me you can't your album's not done like you were cocky in the beginning like in the beginning like this is what i'm trying to tell you like you looked at me like it was like no you're not closing you out your album is not closed and i was like i don't know i didn't know how to you know what's it called reforecast like i learned that later and you was like this is this is the greatest story right not this part no this part is great it's a part of the story this part is embarrassing you know where it was at sound on sound studios oh my god and i remember because biggie used to go upstairs a lot of people thought biggie recorded in um bad boy yeah uh but around the corner from bad boy one block over remember it was on 44th uh um daddy's house excuse me and 45th was sound on sound it's the first day i met you i walked in you quoted me you quoted bloody money put a room called a bloody money to me and i was like wow and then as soon as you finish you said but i don't have one thug bone in my body i said i like this guy he's real and then you said your album's not closed though and i said yo so if you remember at the end of super thug i'm actually saying nre nori the remix because this was actually going to use it as the remix to nre because i was trying to do a big deal but one more chance and one more like you know and what happened was we played the record to to these nyc djs or let me just i think it was all djs and you know what everyone said because they didn't understand the neptune sound at the time they all looked at us in our face and said this is too dark of a record it's a classic relax let me get to it so listen they i'm sitting there because the record they want to go with band from tv and i'm like we got to go with super thug and we played it for all these people they said wait wait wait wait wait do y'all understand what banned from tv was yes does everybody know who was on that song do people really understand yeah yo do people really i know i don't want to i just want to just take a hold on a second yes okay do y'all understand how crazy band from tv is first of all the title alone right and people don't know like the actual band from tv like at that time yeah you guys let me tell you so the dj's say the record is too dark meaning like it's gonna work as a tunnel and that's it so that's the reason why if you if you look at super dog video there's not one night time shot in the video we shot the whole [ __ ] in the daytime we did remember we shot the whole yeah we told you that it was too dark they i swear to god i should have clapped for that goddamn what the [ __ ] no but it was the whole and it was crazy because because that record spoke to us in the south immediately yeah i had no idea like like i was excited because to me that was a south record i'm like oh [ __ ] yeah yeah you totally told me that yeah he always told me yo you made a south record and i was like really i never understood that virginia's i'm like i'm clear today virginians well just to be clear and not to get political but richmond is the capital of virginia but richmond was also the capital of the confederacy yeah whoa yeah wow that's right so i get to this point and i'll break it down cause you gave me two like i got 10 top phone calls of my life and you're two of them i don't know who called you and told you that they were throwing chairs yes but then you called me and said this is phenomenal and i was like what are you talking about he's like they can't play it in the club they don't cheers yes it was it was one of the greatest calls i ever got when you called me and he was like this is it's really like you just i was like wow because you gotta remember unless i was supposed to go into a deeper story with my father but i didn't want to do that but um so you remember that call when you called me it was like their throwing chair bro i remember that i don't remember that call specifically but i remember that time and i remember that feeling i remember rob walker calling me going yo yo they played the record and such such and such was forced to tunnel it was first the time i guess that's where i don't know if it was there but he was like yeah they played it as such and such he was like yo and they had to turn the record off they kept playing it back to back and after a while like they got like everybody was just getting unruly and it was and it was like yo [ __ ] was throwing chairs [ __ ] throwing chairs and i'm like what yeah and that was like at the time like that's not a big deal to whoever you know the kids that are listening now they don't they don't understand but we were we were changing the tide of what would happen because onyx onyx had a a big moment where they were mosh pitting and things like that as well 100 kind of the only ones that we're doing right right but then here comes this guy that come from you know t-o-n-y and new york get the blood money hey you wouldn't see it coming that guy that guy what a temple that guy had violator blood right he wasn't just like with with all due love and respect he wasn't like just like a hood like queensbridge rapper he was i actually met the people who owned left rack it was like really wild at the u.n you know i knew that you were a character when i heard blood money so here we go with this song and and and i felt like we had chatted about he also said to me you said just listen to me like that i swear to god i was like i am i don't know why i just was like and it was crazy it was the exact opposite because i had a 4x on at the time you remember this was baggy baggy yeah yeah and you came in with tight clothes from the beginning yeah i and for some reason i just believed you so i'm gonna get to the story and then we're gonna bounce back you gave me maybe two beats and i was like on my way to miami this is why the the marlin hotel is always significant so you said yo this third beat don't listen to it till you land in miami and we landed in miami it's the ken hotel mm-hmm whatever promoter is he was a foul person for me in the cat hotel come on i put you in the kit hotel i'm not i'm not proud of this i never let this go but anyway so i go upstairs and i remember they pulled us across the street from across the street so i go there and i remember i remember i i played so you played the first two ones in southern sound you said this third one don't listen to so you get to miami so i got to the hotel whatever i get upstairs i played legit and then you already had it man well nora jager it was the first time a producer took their time to make a beat for me i don't think you guys understand what the hell i'm trying to say like this time people just give you a beat and if you like it they'll just sell it to kuji rap or something to you know whoever like when i heard that [ __ ] it blew my mind you know i wrote that whole [ __ ] in like 20 minutes i was like and i called you immediately the only thing i said i said because tammy lucas was singing yeah yeah yeah and i was like could you change it to what what yeah he was like tomorrow we do it in right track so i was like i'm flying back tomorrow and i flew back and that was that was probably like what made you do that like what made you put that because i swear to god i was i was buying the beat just because you said my name before we was in the studio together i was like how did you what's the whole story behind it cause i'm making this video i always told my part right i definitely don't know your part when you presented me that beat and nc light told me she had to beat once society told me he had to be the artist that was on uh what's uh ted lucas's label a slippery slice step inside records he said he heard that beat i don't know about that one yeah i mean i'm just saying i think i made something for light and we were definitely trying to get cause like looking at me was for um bbd blah blah yeah i could hear that they passed on it i don't think that i don't think that it made sense for him at the time yes but yes thank you thank you well look that's how god worked though man i mean look um art the queen janet jackson our sis we made um slave for you and she actually recorded it but she just didn't use it and when she didn't use it we gave it to britney spears wow so i've been blessed with a lot of that where like artists did not feel like something was for them but it made sense for someone else you gave me outlaw for nas you remember that crazy outlaw i bring it to nas i was honored y'all and i was like i don't get it yeah i don't remember yes you actually made that for now yeah a lot of yeah yeah i'm telling you bro i don't know what happened i remember a whole lot but i don't forget it like i remember it it was just crazy because the crazy it's crazy because i am such a i lean forward so much that my chronology of things like i told you i thought maybe like you know church to the palace and beautiful might have been on um what might have been on no limit and it was actually a priority right sometimes i'll be i'll be mixing those things up right there wasn't no limit priority as well though distributors it was yeah it was it was but i think they got smart so that was one of my first my favorite oh wait did we finish the super tug i still want to know how that beat came to be oh yeah we did not thank you thank you so that time at that time we were still like we were making money we were still making making music you know and chad's mom's and chad's parents house we still like we just felt like we had a vibe in there so we'd go in there and make music but it started getting too loud for his mom and his mom was eventually starting to get sick so we had to like move up you know start just working purely in the studio but there were times when we would go back in his mom's house and make music too because we just felt like a big bottle of maggie go ahead you know this is that big buck cause you're worth popping this big bottle yeah listen listen love your guest has a magnum i love the big bro love the big bro you know you know the whole you know he sent this personally you know i mean he wanted you to get you know what i mean goddammit come to continue this story it's wonderful yeah um but yeah that was a tammy was around like making beats and stuff and she would be there and sometimes she would hear things and she would sing on it and she heard that that what did you say it was at first yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah this is the life y'all of a superstar yeah yeah yeah you had um manuel noriega in the philippines and i was like dude this is [ __ ] my dj is from the philippines this [ __ ] is ill like i was like whatever google yo i felt obligated so i wrote the whole rhyme i came back the right track and i laid the whole [ __ ] you know the what what's is how i counted bars that was never meant to be the no you told me i was like what what what what you know you know i didn't know that until like maybe 10 years ago you know you was like listen i remember laying down because i didn't know how to punch in you [ __ ] young [ __ ] you young [ __ ] with your punching i didn't know how to punch in bro so i laid the whole [ __ ] like straight bro i'm older than you though by the way i know you're 47 yeah my god damn it you look at 27 goddammit that's the skincare by the way this is the greatest greatest session of my life so that's the reason why i remember it i don't remember [ __ ] but uh so i remember and i just laid it and remember right track had the upstairs downstairs yeah so i think i ordered some food or something and you was just down there and i kept saying yeah we got the hook and he was like i got the hook already you were like just brushing me off and i was like alright cool i had no idea what you did with it and i was just you just i just listened to you wow he was just like [ __ ] and i said yo they're gonna laugh at me and he said this is your words you say and you're gonna laugh all the way to the bank and i said all right i believe that and you were right and i had the number one [ __ ] record neil b we had lunch vanilla bean the other day and he was like yo bro like and he was telling me how he should have listened to me because i said yo he was like he was saying like he's like yo that sound at the time like that's how they describe the neptune sound at first because i guess it was affiliated with me yes they was thinking you guys were because these tough things so they were saying that's a dark sound bruh softest butter no listen let me explain something to you i've never been a tough guy no but no but you're right there were times where people like yo was it nah bro lil wayne lil wayne took me around we went to visit we were doing a show down there and like he was a fan and he took us to um this club down there and i and it was the equivalent of being in dc like sometimes dc have you know what's what's what's what's bro name that what's his name uh kevin what's his name that uh do all the like dc clubs there he did dream mark mark barnes and why the [ __ ] i say kevin so like they have like mark listen love and respect to mark barnes they have some of the craziest amazing clubs and venues that like life life part took and was created at um babies were made there um or at least initiated um orleans and louisiana there was like these clubs that were just as big like you go to a club that had 3 000 people and lil wayne took me to one and this was the most gangster [ __ ] i mean there's a couple of times where i was like in an environment i lost my [ __ ] mind like and leader immediately like left the studio like i mean left the the club going let's go make some music lil wayne took me to a place in new orleans man and it was white teeth white tee central gold teeth gold teeth everywhere reeboks and you could just the guns were in the club bro everybody had a gun bro like it could really it could have like it would have gone down a lot of people would have got like like hit up and for me like i'm not a tough guy bro i i'ma really i really believe in paying taxes because when you pay taxes when you pay taxes it's like you shouldn't feel no kind of way dialing 9-1-1 you know what i'm saying do you think steven spielberg as many great movies he's ever made or standing kubrick do you think these guys are good [ __ ] shots they're terrible shots they've probably never been to the [ __ ] gun range they can make the movie right i make the music right because i'm inspired by it right literally we where were we the other night yeah we was at we was at the head factory they was got yesterday they were shooting like four or five shots and [ __ ] well here in miami oh yeah because that's in the hood yeah so you know across the street is dead so so kelly comes in she's like can i talk to you for a second we're in the session can i talk to you soon i'm like yeah she's like yeah so they're shooting in the parking lot i'm leaving i'm like where the [ __ ] are you going and shooting outside you act like the [ __ ] the uh the the the uber or the lift is gonna pull up in the middle of the [ __ ] but literally i'm not a tough guy i knew i'm staying my ass inside and the [ __ ] fbi is on speed dial though i'm not a [ __ ] tough guy you people say things about snitching i'm [ __ ] snitching yo everybody plays their part this is a movie you guys everybody plays their parts hey i have a purpose i have to be me i have to do my job and i have to play my part in this movie and my part is i told you not to do that [ __ ] i told you i wasn't built for this i'm really sorry but this is your deal your honor are you guys watching oh [ __ ] i asked him not to do this and if he was going to do it or she was going to do it don't [ __ ] tell me well you're a civilian you're going to get away with that one man 25 years in a condition you know you are not built for because you want to look tough i am not [ __ ] tough you know you know what i want to look like [ __ ] free and happy yes living my life you'll get away with that totally no street person in the world would be offended by saying that because you never claimed a tough guy that's the problem the problem is it's not people um that think like you the problem is the people that are that per trade a certain image you have never portrayed that image so no one can ever be offended by that statement that you just and how many people do you really know really write and don't tell how many times y'all talk about y'all your friends is the hardest guy in the world [ __ ] like then there's a middle ground there's a middle ground but yeah it's true it's not just it's not just super gangster and telling there's a middle ground in there and you're here right now right right yeah you're here right now we're not we're not living against the light for now this is the purgatory of that this is this is where we at right here this is guys who survived the street life but we're not telling you but i mean we're not involving [ __ ] though we're not involved in that we're not involved we're not involved with [ __ ] we're not with nothing i am a bicycle not a four-wheeler okay i meant to ride but there's only so much weight i can take and there's only so much terrain i can take and i can only go but so fast i'm very clear on that so let me switch the subject a little bit okay you mentioned little wayne little wayne and pusha t yeah they had this discrepancy yeah wha wha where was your stance on that my stance was i didn't want to see that go that way you know there was a you know um that didn't make me happy i i'd hate to see what him and drake are going through or what they went through i hated to see all of it every bit of it wow i it was never it wasn't it wasn't good drake's amazing and drake is all-powerful and he's so talented went too far you think pusha went too far you know like i could push it and tell me because he knows i would have you know stood in front of him as much as i could but he's a different kind of person he's a taurus you know what i'm saying and tourist people i don't know if there's anybody out there right now but october taurus it's april my daughter's a tourist right so when you and when you feel like a lion is crossing you take off the gloves that's just where your brain is at you know what i'm saying whereas drake is a scorpio and they they never forget and they was there that's in december yeah like it was it's just the worst combination of two people who are very pure and very loyal to the people that they love and it's crazy because you you produce what happened to that boy what pusha t birdman and wayne yeah you know i didn't want that man i didn't i i it still it still breaks my heart to this day because i would have loved to have heard those guys on a song together or heard a joint project together you know what pusher and wayne or push on drake push it right i would have loved to have seen that that would have been like singing and pushing hitting the ball whatever andre drake drake got bars bro by the way pusher says drake got bars yeah when drake makes something that's amazing we talk about it all the time when something's up it's amazing it ain't that it ain't that it's just that push is a really is that tarnish your relationship with drake like um has it affected it in any way i mean we've talked several times i love drake i mean even in the middle of all that stuff like he would like he like he he's said super nice and kind things to me on the dm and and and in public like i don't think drake doesn't neither one of them are into problems they don't like it like it's unnecessary but they're both people who like you know when when when they feel like they're being pushed to a limit they got to do what they got to do no no it's all good i um that didn't you know that didn't i wasn't happy about that you know what i'm saying um and i and and man i talked to pusher all the time like he's he's really a good guy it's just in his mind he just felt like when the gloves come off gloves came off because he mentioned this girl right that yeah that was like a that was a different kind of line and by the way and and i'm sure it would you know if drake had a girl and they were as serious i'm sure drake would have felt the same way but again it's like that's the thing with rap like you know there's there should be rules but there's kind of no rules and people will do and say anything man i'm the stuff that big ian poc went through and is it true that the watching had an adidas deal because like i know like you begging adidas as well right drake had adidas deal and push the t got him up out of there he did he did have to he did have a deal there but again all of this was unbeknownst to me like drake told me that he had a situation there but i didn't know that any of this would ever come up you know and i'd like i would never i didn't want to see this man i didn't want to see this respect i just think that they're super too super talented guys that man you know black people and especially black men we haven't had it so easy in this country and even in canada like it's not been so easy for black men there and when you think about where this country is going like 71 million people did not like the turnout of this election and they were all complicit and cool with a lot of the things that happened because they voted for it again and um i got to give my respect just as a citizen i'm supposed to respect you know the the current administration because they are the leaders of the free world i don't agree with a lot of things that they say i don't agree with a lot of the policies and a lot of that has come down on you know on black males and yes you know they have been you know um they have been you know reversing uh sentences and pardoning and doing all these things i know kim was a very it was a very played a very integral part in that but i don't give a [ __ ] man we are an endangered species black man bro so it's like when you see two people who are so [ __ ] powerful and you see men that look like drake die or be paralyzed with with police bullets in their back you know what i'm saying or you see black men that look like pusher who die with police bullets or dying just in general just from like the very dark forces of racism in this country my only thing is to say you guys you guys are both living great lives and sure there's been some overstepping on both parts i'll say man like we better than this and we gotta we gotta we we too zoomed in right now bro we need to zoom out we need to zoom out and see the bigger picture we we need we're stronger together and and and i've i've wanted to do that but it's not something that i can do i mean so i drank and pushed a t record you produce it what do you mean i'd be in the heart i'm so honored i do i do whatever for that i do whatever i i want that to be i i wish that that did not exist you know i'm saying that this didn't exist i wish all of it just it was never it didn't it wasn't good for anyone right it was literally both of them like feeling like nah i'm not backing down you know what i'm saying like why should i back down but it's like nah you guys are you guys are bigger than you guys are bigger than this issue you know what i'm saying i mean drake is arguably one of the biggest no he is the biggest artist right now he's the biggest you know what i'm saying and pusher is like one of those guys that like he continues to up his [ __ ] like lyrically people know he's one of the most respected he's one of the most respected lyrically and like by the way he's consistent with what it is that he does he just continues all right like and it seems like he's getting better yeah and better and better i just how that would be the greatest thing for me i mean i didn't come on here to talk about that necessarily but man nah but this is hip-hop you gotta talk about we we just we just so much bigger and better than that man nah and we need your opinion too because people don't get your opinion yeah well you know i stay quiet on all those i try to stay out of [ __ ] bro we taking another shot of purple rain let's take another shot of purple rain purple rain got a little bit you never met prince you ever met prince yes please tell us we have legendary prince stories here at drinks did he float with a purple smoke purple smoke every time prince prince was prince was so cool i've tried for years to make records for him my first attempt at making a record with him for him uh um was fronting fronting was for prince that's crazy i'm trying to figure this out how far did that go he didn't he he didn't want it so he didn't even take it all right tomorrow did he hear the whole front he heard um i think he heard the melodies and again it's been so long he might have heard the hook and maybe the melodies for the verse or whatever because when i finish the verses no i think i wrote a different version of it a little bit for him and uh he you know he he wasn't into it that's one of my favorite for royal records of all time man that was me pretending to be him wow really yeah you got me i my all of my i'm telling you all of my all of mine you got me that was all you right there all right all right so you was trying to you know you're a princeton person yeah i was trying to i'm just you know what i pray what i thought you know what i'm saying and he was like nah but we did do either before that or after that again i'm sorry the chronology drunk facts we got drunk facts here uh don't fire me richard mill um but my time is off um see you guys at 1.5 richard mille on two we'll get to that later yeah yeah we watching watching the only but all these dudes i know you and hope i think it's the only dude i know what they're on with your meal but we'll give it to that later so so i that one i just felt like we did all this other one a remix called the greatest uh story that's ever been told i think that might have been before and then i tried to then i tried to like make fun for him and he just was like i don't even know if we heard back the answer was just no i could hear him now that i think about i could hear him on that okay yeah and that would have been incredible that would have been you know i was like trying that's why the brown thing but he wasn't into it wow michael michael michael turned us down because that's my next day back to back prince yeah but they both turned us down they were like slow it down yeah second remember i told you top 10 phone calls in my whole life okay my second top ten is this is after you tell me they throwing cheers whatever all right cool it's really blowing that oh no drops and now i'm like elegant to a certain extent people's like height williams video video right that was when that was when whenever anything was hot we'd be like you remember that time yeah yeah that was a different era so you hit me and said yo i just sent michael jackson some beats i'm like i'm like i like i didn't understand this talk cause i'm like damn i'm not no michael jackson ever at all so i'm like word he you said to me he told me nope i don't think norway will rhyme on that i wish i was like my life is done [Music] do i do yo john mclean was his manager at the time we sent him pretty much all the stuff you guys are hearing on the first justified album that's all the michael stuff wait um justin justin timberlake oh yes okay go ahead yes all but one song they were all written for michael uh michael what era of michaels is remember the time era this is right at the super dog right now you're right you rock my world okay right before that and um and john mcclane was like man michael don't want that [ __ ] they want the [ __ ] that you give in norrie and i'm like i immediately thought of michael with the crips in the blood picture no [ __ ] he was like yo he want that super thug you know what's that other one y'all just did oh no yeah that would have been a crazy michael called me i was like because i had him really like i'm still a kid i'm 20 maybe one and when he said that to me he's like yo michael told me like i i remember you said maybe the manager he said they want this [ __ ] that would norway rhyme on and i was sitting back like i like i hung up the phone because in my mind it was a flip star tech so i hung up and i was like what the [ __ ] did i just hear like i didn't know how to assess that and pharrell was telling me no i couldn't make wrecked music for michael i wanted to like keep you in mind like something he would rhyme to and i was just i was blown away that's that's my top like biggie called me before he passed away so this is my top ten foreign wow yeah oh my god it was it was crazy and what happened what hap why why did it not happen he was in l.a when he called me so you know you know how god blessed the dead rest in peace biggie smalls but on that la trip he had called me talking about um so this is my top 10 calls on my whole life i'm gonna write them down i'm gonna write them down i'm gonna make a book by topic first of all you have to do a book and you and it has to be my top 10 calls you damn it your top 10 goals yes yeah i think i think i'm going to make that a book this is i guess listen and you have to be so vivid about these stories yes just your brother you know this is what i do yes okay with the michael jackson story i know but hold on a second all right let him produce you bro boys my whole life got there 20 years yeah like like it has to be called my top 10 calls by the way any any of the publishers that are listening to this unless the good ones come on come out of the waterworks this is amazing it's super colorful because those calls are [ __ ] crazy you know it's crazy yo [ __ ] yo notorious b.i.g we wanted to get on t-o-n-y and you know my dumb ass pearl i'm sitting there thinking my [ __ ] is bootleg so i'm like because it wasn't out so i'm like yo but i forgot nasheen myricks who produced it was work for bad boy so he played it for biggie exclusively does anyone know how incredible it is naisheen myricks is was anyone know that nasheen myrick's do y'all understand what he did with queen [ __ ] do y'all understand nasheen myricks i look brother i think i've met you one time if you're listening to this you are absolutely a periodic inspiration what you do and what you've done with so many songs has moved me chad pusha fam like you don't even understand you you know how many people got shocked to queen big to to queen [ __ ] because no [ __ ] we got real [ __ ] baby bro listen listen listen i don't want nobody to get shot right but i'm just telling you as a fan from a stanley kubrick steven spielberg perspective they got you on the movie right hey bro pizzazz how many times somebody got shot to queen brick to to queen [ __ ] are you here you don't understand what they did to dudes in norfolk and portsmouth virginia you don't understand some of the most listen i know new york got guns but you don't understand we love you listen in virginia they senselessly kill it's a very different thing you know they just jealousy and envy from a distance was enough for you to get shot at and that's not something that i was into because i was dialing 9-1-1 however early and the closest to the closest to the exit well my og's going on you good they no they know not to do that dumb [ __ ] over here right shout out all the like all of my old g's all of our ogs back home like them they're like those guys were like deities walking around like apollo and [ __ ] they were different however let's take a shot of that purple rain yeah continue though shook wines blood money when them records came on in virginia listen i don't understand i don't understand how to really communicate that to y'all and naisheen myricks was one of those guys those beats that he would make i don't know what the [ __ ] would possess this guy to put some of those bass lines down to some of those samples but man listen i take my hat off to you brother you are [ __ ] different and i encourage all young producers it's not trap music it's not rap music of today it's from a different era and i'm telling you right now it incited riots we're done go ahead okay all right he wanted to be ot biggie wanted to be in be on yes that is like oh my god so this is from charlemagne direct right he said always wonder if in his mind did he ever compete with timberland since they vote from virginia like was it ever felt like a competition at one point i did think i was in competition timberland has always been better than me and i feel sound wise it was a whole different lane timbaland has always been better than me period timberland did like he did four people is that the respect that you speak come on timbaland timberland to be the the the other guys you guys both angels you guys let's stop timbaland did four page letter timberland did aaliyah yep what are we talking about it's just it it's it it's over what is uh jiggle man trigger man hit your van up bruno right there come on i'm betting anything on you on versus against anybody nah man against anybody no for real against anybody [Music] would you ever think about doing a verse never never no why because that's just not my thing i love watching them but i just like i i would get in my own way i start playing [ __ ] i play i play records you just you just it just wouldn't be the right look for it but i've seen the comedy sketch where like it's like like it's like barack right they say barack and then he got barack the [ __ ] speaker right so then the guy he says what barack says and then it's the guy that says what barack means i would like to be your [ __ ] speaker that night you say some cool humble [ __ ] i'm like what he means [Music] all right so would you how about kanye you want kanye and versus that's your little man there is no kanye let's be clear kaye's amazing bro you wouldn't head that no i'm not going yet i don't listen i know my job bro i'm i'm not a boxer i'm a trainer and and and at the end of the day like you know because i was i'm lucky to be able to throw a couple shots and get a couple couple belts i'm very grateful but this is not my fight like it's just not my thing how come you can say that i can't say that they won't let me they trying to make me battle everybody but how can you say that and you're like i don't know i just i just i know my place you know michael jackson right there i know my place i will say this i will say that you know i was i wasn't sure of what to expect here i know i i have a love and respect for your show and i have been such a i'm having such a great time man so another shot of purple rings man yo pharrell i just want you to know man our show was about saluting our uh i see it all legends i see it you know when they people got 10 years or more they say this over right now you know there's this new young producer salute cheers there's new young producers so i also think that you should have a partnership with a florist so all the florists what we need flowers all the floors that are out there there's a lot of different brands a lot of different versions and a lot of different places coming from different places like there should be a drink champs like edition of flowers because that's all these guys are doing and giving people flowers so you know you need to you need to you need to you need to call write email do whatever you need to do to connect with these guys and there should be a drink champs florist and i'm just saying people will order people will order from here just because they want to be supportive of of of black and latinx entrepreneurs like and they'd be very supportive of what you do because you do this on your podcast you like you said you say yo we like to this is a show about giving people their flowers and [ __ ] right so you should have that merchandise actually have flowers you should actually have flowers we gotta have a girl give it to you cause i don't i feel uncomfortable giving you flowers right now i tell you not only that you also had the most disrespectful jury in the game at one point you would like to eric be a rockin of the new producers like like you like you know serious let's keep it real let's keep it real we got blue diamonds i didn't even know what that meant i didn't even know what it was it was ill he was out there like let's talk about your jewelry game for one point wow he really getting into it right now yeah why not so jewelry wise i um i was uh what the [ __ ] is that huh michelada so what it's a mix of what and what it's imagine a bloody mary beer drink got it that's the easiest way to explain i'm watching this this is my line this is my line but oh okay all right say it again it's ultimate excellent excellent everybody here we know all the owners of every company okay great yeah listen we know all the owners of every company here this is what this is we are the fubu of the media okay everything is all off soon to be flourished yes yes yeah yeah the book authors the book and the the book is important yeah okay the book is important the book is important to the legacy and the florist is impre is important to the future like that like nah the fact that you guys literally give people their flowers yeah that's we have to do man that's what happened to you come on there there's some fly i can feel it right now there's some there's some florists that's going to contact you guys but yeah we'll be happy to be y'all's partners that's great and you pick them all out god damn man right not gonna lie i'm gonna send you the pictures you tell me which ones to go away when you start thinking about that money when you realize the kind of money you're trying to make right now you're going to be very clear on what colors you want so wait where where are we right now because because the purple rain is kicking in we might need more purple rain to figure it out purple rain okay jewelry wise purple rain over here for me too all right purple rain is serious bro so so jewelry wise um i've you know i would have my like i would have like my inspiration like sometimes i'm like oh you know what you know something as simple as a monopoly um thank you something as simple as like a monopoly piece i'm like yo i want to do this or i want to do that right i didn't ever did that but at the time i was thinking that way or like when i was going through like my jury motions i was also dealing with cars so i would say yo i want to do spongebob that's what made him start doing spongebob i want to do smurfs that's what had him doing smurfs now he was an incredible artist on his own he did something called the kimsons and it was at that same time that sense of self-discovery that you realize that you could just have your own ideas and go in there and not just have to settle for whatever tito was giving you because i used to go to we used to go to tito shout the t listen t i miss you love you brother smile every time you see our face every time you saw our faces that's my first grenade man and then and then there was a jewelry grenade to be high and then i went then i went to jacob and then like everything changed and then i met lorraine so i you know i stayed very very very loyal to jacob and lorraine and okay who's lorraine that's another lorraine schwartz okay yeah she's my lead good she's she's great she's great i have be happy to introduce you to her so lorraine is like elizabeth taylor like there we go you know i'm kind of like that kind of like those kind of levels um she did kim's ring she did bee's ring she did my wife's ring you know we was early on the rain like we you know i'm very loyal to the people i partner with whether it's adidas lorraine whoever it is i'm turning the lights on i'm turning everybody on to them right um and so jewelry wise i just wanted to express myself like you know what i'm from nerd and you guys can keep getting [ __ ] uh crosses i've done that but we're gonna do something else and so there was this one moment and colorful [ __ ] too there was this one moment we went to the bt awards i don't know what year it was but for a surprise stephen hill brought on slick rick was dougie fresh on there with him too at first was dougie fresh on there with him as well at first i'm not sure i think he might have been and if he's not uh my apologies cause dougie is every [ __ ] thing [ __ ] i gotta dance 20 30 years later he's everything slick rick was on there with a short suit meaning a suit with shorts right burgundy with burgundy clarkson and his jewelry and i am seen on the bt i don't know if it was the bt awards or if it was the bt hip-hop awards i'm not sure i can't remember and he had on all that jewelry and i called jacob that night i said listen to me okay this is in full transparency there was no big cuban links before this right he had on the cuban and i thought about some of the stuff that he didn't have on that night that i've always loved and i called jacob i said listen we're doing three chains we're gonna do a bigger cuban than you've ever seen and the gucci link and then we're gonna do a much bigger cuban and then we're gonna do a gucci link but the difference is i'm doing them in white gold and they're all gonna be paved there was no paved cubans no those wasn't platinum no platinum i wouldn't have been able to lick my left minute you guys what's pop vader i don't know the [ __ ] that is coffee meaning like lots of diamonds like okay you know when you see teeth they're paved okay like paved but paved and i was like listen we're doing it's going to be all sugar coated basically pave so pave cuban link pav 8 smaller cuban link paved uh uh gucci link and the first one is going to be of the one that i don't forget the saints name that's on the crutch san lazaro okay that was me imitating slick rick full-on and i only wore it for a little bit and after a while i realized okay this is too slick rick and i gave it to niko then i replaced that with something that with the bbc helmet all all paved out 3d and then i did the one of any rd but in the baked characters all in the color-coded stones and then there was like one more and i can't [ __ ] remember what it was but either way then i got the bracelet that was an homage to slick rick bro ah that was like wow slick rick you're the king that was the inspiration you're the king and you know i love slick rick so much when he came home jay was like yo i want you to go in with slicker i was like what are you crazy i'll do it for [ __ ] free what do you mean it's [ __ ] slick rick my brothers and i all we did was ride around and listen to the you know the adventures of slick rick children's story like what that whole [ __ ] mona lisa hey young girl is crazy in the world just so you guys understand my first rolls-royce when i first got my first rolls-royce i rode around in virginia with some white models from new york i was like yo you guys kind of come to virginia with me and let's just drop a [ __ ] round in slow motion with the hazard lights on and i made them listen to that they had never heard of it in their life but you guys have to understand what this is by the end of the night they were all singing the world the the songs together it was great that record's still crazy god damn it look at that hit poppy is goddamn keep talking that [ __ ] so so when i when i made that jewelry was like that was everything i never forget the first time i unveiled it i we did drop it like we played drop it like it's hot for the first time in the staples center and it was so many gangs in there that i was like yo are we really going out there snoop was like nah p they love us and it like bloods was in there and you saw first of all that's when i realized there was more than one crypt yeah i thought it was just like in the crips no there's more than one of all of that there was like the grape street crips they were in purple i was like what the [ __ ] is this they're wearing purple then there was another group that was wearing green i mean like there were so many of them they was throwing signs and [ __ ] we played dropping like it's hot he was like go ahead pee and i unzip the [ __ ] and you know had my moment what did you have on a bunch of bape stuff i was it was bait at the time negro still owned babe he hadn't sold it yet okay and um yeah he sold bait yeah a long time ago yeah they it's now uh not my brother and not the general so i don't wear it i ain't i ain't worn vaping [ __ ] since i wait wow i didn't know that yeah no you know no disrespect to them or whatever but it ain't [ __ ] me and nego is human-made remember the first you gave me a pair of babes yeah they were like like a brown mm-hmm suede collector's items right now i ain't got it but let me just tell you how much i wore them shits in my hood they joked on me the first pair like this is before no one had you gave me a pair and i wore them in my hood and i was like yo and i kept saying they 300 people was like those fake up towns i like this bait man and they're like yo those is weak yo what the [ __ ] are you doing like yo this is fellaini sneaker this is gonna blow yo they baked on me i'm talking about i was just they were just laughing at me and i just said [ __ ] it i roll with it and now all them dudes be like yo my bad you know we talk about like us and rap music and like you know that culture you know part of that time what made you even wanted to get into that type of world because you were already dominating so you asked me about the jewelry jewelry by the way i had a whole other lifetime after the big jewelry that's when we just started getting them more sophisticated like just thinking about things a little bit differently yeah i see you your whole wrist is just different i'm trying to chest right over there yeah yeah is that a cartier bracelet made for you for cartier this is [ __ ] [ __ ] made this this is a human made this is a human-made bracelet like cartier yes sir yeah elsewhere and that's cactus plant cactus cactus yeah yeah cactus plants she got she's over with nike as well she's something else so here's the crazy thing so jacob you asked me about the jewelry so jacob called me he said you know pharrell i got this guy you know he likes your stuff you know you know you know good good good good crack good client he's a good client you know he's from japan you don't know you don't know this guy nego he's [ __ ] rich he's you know he's got this company you should check it out jacob was the one who introduced me to nego and vape because nego kept coming to new york going listen you making jewelry for this guy you made him this cuban link you made this for him in yellow i want it in yellow and then i want it in rows and then i want it in white and everything that i got for a couple years before nego met me he would get everything that i got in in different versions one in rose one in yellow and one in white and jacob was like look look you don't believe me he pulled out his desk he opened the drawers and he showed me the photos of me and the jewelry that jury the jury that jacob had made for me and nego was a fan she said i have this because he asked for the same thing it's [ __ ] crazy you got to meet this guy trust me just do me a favor so like knew him as well because when loic went out there with kalis when he was like road managing her they went over to nego and they met nego this and the other so i needed a studio to do something when i was out there and jacob kept going yo you need to go sit with this guy he's a fan of yours so when i went to nego's office where his studio was he he had an office that had a showroom production room for clothes and sneakers and then like an atelier and then he also had a a a showroom and below that was a studio he was like yo you need a studio come use my studio so i use the studio i got done doing what i needed to do i went upstairs and i saw all these babesters that kind of looked like ups down of towns and a in a way but the colorways were so [ __ ] crazy and literally like let's say so those first vapes david's already made as you as you saw i walked in the showroom and they i'm a i'm a sample size i'm a nine nine nine and a half so let's say there's three colors here and there's not but let's say there is green white and beige he would have a vape that was green white and beige but then he would have it where the colors were reversed so literally each colorway he would do twice and just reverse where they were and i walked in there and i was like this [ __ ] is a genius i've never seen nobody do that because really right now if you think about a sneaker drop right you see a colorway it's one pair what if the toe box and the heel switched the colors but it's the same three colors but just rearranged when i saw he did that i said hey hey man who are you we you're a guy i just want to learn from you and he was like nah like i'll help you and then that's when we did bbc together and that's when we did ice cream together and everything changed and that changed my life because at that point i was only thinking about the beat the beat was my only concern then i the beat in the songs were my only concern then i realized that like there's beats there's music and then there's merch and then there's like clothes and he really opened me up he really really really really made me look at things very differently and i saw that this guy's imagination had no bounds and that's when i realized that like not only i could do this but like the kids that we see today they're doing it right but that's when i realized that that was going to happen i was like because if i see this they're going to see it you know what i'm saying so that that like that like changed everything and i mean he was different this guy like some people put their [ __ ] in the safe this guy when i went to his house and like his apartment he had like a big mac toolbox that that they use when they're like servicing in the pit stop of like a formula one you know those big toolboxes with the wheels on it and [ __ ] you know the big blue toolbox that was like you had trays and [ __ ] [ __ ] had his jewelry in there with lights like he was he blew my mind and that's when i was like oh i'm never i'm never going the other way like i am we we have the ability to do whatever the [ __ ] we want that's why you're going to do this book like you guys will mark this date while we is this december 12th 2020 right this is december 12 2020. someone there's so many publishers have heard of this and some of the young scouts have heard this you're going to do this book and there's a florist or a botanist that's heard this interview and they're going to do this with you god damn it right you're going to text me or call me by the way you're not only going to text me or call me but do you guys do you guys get the positive ass from affirmations that i get from this man yo this guy i'll be caught up in so many things that i'm doing and i don't give a [ __ ] where i am in the world or if you look at this last you know 12 to 12 to let's call it 12 to 14 15 months of like what we've been going through with kovitt right because some of us knew earlier than others um this man relentlessly if not every week every two weeks if not every two weeks every three weeks but then after that third week it might be three three consecutive weeks this man will hear me just say hey positive vibes that's it that's it and let me tell you something god is a is a reciprocal god this unit this universe is a reciprocal universe and you have no idea when you send me those positive affirmations yeah thank you bro and those positive words that you need to know it's coming back yeah unless you sip to it and i'll just tell you that man i was coming back to you bro yeah cause i love i love it because we live such a beautiful life i don't give a [ __ ] you know what we've been through like the the fact that we're surviving and we're alive during this crazy times that we're going through is that's the we we should be spreading it's like yo positive energy man wherever you are in the world i don't care if it's a robot i don't care if it's [ __ ] lefrak i don't care if it's newport news i don't care if it's [ __ ] you know whatever it is like we we should we should we should we got to respect each other and just be happy to be where we are there's so many people that we lost just this year these messages for years that's right for nothing that's right i've been like that and i really like love bro thank you man same to you and your family mm-hmm and when i say that i hope he you know hope you are able to tell my wife yes that's right yeah yeah he is you know you know but let me just tell you from a super outsider yeah like in y'all's in your solar system i'm pluto yeah that guy is all about you that's right and [Music] for years for years it's always been when i talked to him he was like here's such a such a yeah i'ma come down with my wife it was like i know when you entered his life it was a very big difference because it was always whenever i talked to him you were always in the equation and that's a beautiful thing and i'm so happy for you guys [Applause] actually on some family [ __ ] yes every for the past couple of weeks thank you for doing the grinch movie because i got two young kids and every morning that's what we watching wow and i could stand it because the the music is amazing the narration is amazing so thank you for that contribution as well to parents and children thank you very much thank you all right flossing you because this is the direct question from whole he said i want all funny stories for him get him high which i'm not going to do i thought something about producing despicable me wow uh just funny [ __ ] happened to him but i'm not gonna get y'all i'm not gonna do that but this is what me this is wow right away you know what shawn carter i have no idea how involved you were but now i get it i get it sean he just got his master say that dude i get it cause he's getting involved with everybody but we're not like i'm like you know he's he's been he he's been there he's a great guy he's always been there i remember i remember when you guys were in the very beginning when you guys first started clicking up or whatever yeah and you had tasted armadale for the first time yeah i hated it and you were so vocal and i i was always still got a bottle armor there i hate i promoted it bro and put armadale on me and i'm great as much as he loved them yeah that always blew my mind like damn like yo you so honest about that [ __ ] well you didn't want us to rock either i'm always bringing that up hey man you got to relax it's true it's true all right i was pushing it on you i was affected from armadillo okay i had never tasted the sarah i was bringing [Applause] you had a pinky drink you remember with milk in it oh my gosh i never [ __ ] crazy that much it was like hell no it was like um it was like imagine like a kahlua okay like a strawberry version of like a kahlua even tastes good yeah but it do something to you yeah yeah i didn't understand i think i went home i was like wait a minute he was lactose intolerant i didn't even know i don't know what's going on right now that was a beautiful thing at the time now when you realize how legendary you are though you you're yo in my book you're my number one producer of all time listen if i have one last album which i would like for you to do listen if i had one last album to do right [ __ ] it i'll keep it real better than last album i had one last song to do wow that's a lot he just went from last 12 or 11 down to one as you know yes and my schedule might be crazy because god is the greatest god is the [ __ ] greatest that was oxymoronic but we're gonna let that go um you're you know your your credit is always good with me yes yes it's always good with me and and there's no i don't you don't talk talk there's no we're not talking about budgets and [ __ ] like that like oh you know what you gave me like i realized what you feel like i gave you but i okay let me take this off i realize what you feel like you like like i gave you and chad has given you yeah shout out to chad chad he was a [ __ ] savant genius of the highest order right is i said it is yes of the highest order i will never be half of the [ __ ] musician that he is a man can pick up an instrument leave him for two hours and the [ __ ] is playing on it like a like an ingenious improvisational you know person who spent 18 years on the instrument that is chad chad is a genius but i realize what you feel like we have given you but you need to understand what you gave us and that is at the time we had done i had wrote i had written teddy's verse for rum shaker then i had like a little small really really ill-fitted verse for an fwv remix that didn't get used but they chopped up part of my verse to use the double s-s-w-w that went into right here the teddy rally remix then we did tonight's tonight then we did looking at me looking at yeah looking at me right and then we did super thug super thug made every hard rapper at the time look at us very differently at the time we had did tonight's tonight for swv and that was like the biggest thing we had done with the exception of uh and i'm somewhat as producers with the exception of tonight's tonight it made people who had heard about us look at us very differently why because we work with a hard rapper no because we worked with a hard character you need to understand the difference there's a hard rapper and then there's a hard character a hard rapper cool until the way you rap goes out of style but because you were a hard character you were more than just a rapper you were able to do super thug we then did oh no like you went on to do great things and we are sitting here i want everybody in this room to feel me we sitting here in 2020. you show me you show me your contemporaries you showed me your peers that came out when you came out you show me what they're doing now and we love them and we respect them and we hold them to the highest esteem and there's so many of them that i could get into the greatest knock-down drag outs about who had the best [ __ ] clue mixtapes from that era but you show me you show me who has jay-z's sending them [ __ ] questions that's our big brother he's a billionaire like he's really really destroying the pain yeah but yeah to help them get to that building yes yes right yes right yeah you show me um you show me i don't think you can you know well thank you podcast charting but not like podcasts podcast i'm sorry charting podcasts very big differences we invented like rappers doing podcasts and making it cool but you got your own podcast let's make a podcast network oh the i do what is it called the other ours yours because you had ours this other tone the other tone because you had you had an apple show at first wasn't your apple show yeah what's his name bro scott scott vinner yeah yeah right yeah and that's the guy he had something to do with entourage right yeah yeah and i and i and i wanted to do it because i knew that he was much more equipped with like discerning what is the right [ __ ] that should be on there you know what i'm saying i wanted him to have a platform because i've always thought that he was a genius um and i really do believe that and then you know the cool thing is this is him and this next turn around is it's him myself my brother family yeah fam on there now i'm talking about that's what i'm talking about um and he just warming up he just warming up to get ready for his own [ __ ] um as well but again like it's been great man and and and when you think back to the fact that you were early on at first yeah my wife gonna kill me with all this footage with my mask off but you know what i just needed you to see my face i wanted you to really see my face and hear me yo you're a different guy bro you're different and we've had our ups we've had our downs we've had our rounds and what you did for chad and i and essentially everybody that i work with you lifted us to a different kind of place you you should know that like you lifted us to a a different different different place and the crazy thing is the entire time beyond it all i would say the number one characteristic of our bond and our report is that you would trust me when i say yo listen to me i would shut the [ __ ] up every time i would say yo just trust me listen to me moment i met you that was the first word you said to me you said trust me you're gonna go number one and i don't know why i just i just i just always remember that moment it was a sound on style i could listen if we go to silence i can tell you the exact space we was at yeah like i could be like you look you were right here i was right here and you know what i was never wrong you you guess what you were never wrong so you know people sometimes compare us to snoop in like oh bro bro super thug man yo do you understand super thug do you understand my brother allen iverson went to jail right around that time wow because of the chair throwing in the chair back at that time if i don't if i'm not wrong the night that our brother iverson went to jail one night the night that you guys were in the club at the bowling alley was this in hampton or norfolk this is all for princess anne road okay i remember my brother who was managing him at the time somebody hit him over the back with a chair and they hit him so hard that he said he he started speaking to two different people he said i'm making himself like billy john is that you that's the story he told me when he got hit with that chair it was a different night but that's what super thug was doing to people is my point fam's correct that was a different night but that's what that's what super thug was doing to people and rob walker was calling me from new york like yo yo do you understand with this song yeah one of y'all gonna record this for me and give me that and give me that song somebody is gonna give me that sound no it's been recorded for you guys and and it just was a different time bro like that record changed the mentality of how people were thinking and i never forget chris light was like man you know i remember you coming rapping in my office and like we wouldn't sign y'all he was like he felt differently about it then and he was a chris lighty was a genius love to chris lighty and his children and his spirit wherever it is right now in the universe because if it ever existed it still exists somewhere right just because you can't hear it don't mean it don't exist it's here and it might talk to some people you know what i'm saying chris lighty is here and chris man you had the most amazing vision the idea that you were able to see into cam'ron and see into noriega and see into missy and see into buster and see into q-tip do y'all understand that this man was just going oh you're like us you're you're violator your violator your violator and your violator and your violator yo chris lighty had the [ __ ] vision bro like i'm sorry i just had to just take a moment just for him and the purple rain is kicked in the shop [Music] this is how it happens by the way no disrespect but it's swan right it's not like that we're not i'm not from new york so that's not me like with a new york accent saying swine swan it's swan it's here in miami it's me and dave gruffman and purple rain is one of our drinks by the way did you realize tony tony tony was this in new york from back in the days was what tony tony tony diss new york from back in the day one song it never rains in southern california he said it may be cold on the east coast but on the other side of town [Music] you never noticed that tony tony is a foul people raphael sadie doesn't strike me let me tell you why i'll be playing around for real [ __ ] yeah okay later because i was going to say because he's like how did they mention our weather condition well he never said he said east coast he didn't say new york he could have been boston yeah but you just just you just determined that the tri-state area is just the east coast it was just determined that earlier like about 13 minutes it was circumstantial it was 13 minutes look i don't know that rafael sadiq meant that just because rafael's such a loving guy and him and q-tip are so [ __ ] close and d'angelo who is also from virginia richmond virginia he loved he loves those guys so much i can't imagine all right god damn let's make some noise for all keeping the pot so this was really nice man madonna yes sir where are you at madonna calls you he says i want you to be tiger king did you say i want you to be tiger king i don't know i don't know why i said that like you know michael jackson called first yeah next 98 right so when did you get the madonna call the madonna call was definitely in the 2000s um i want to say i was still working at the marlin at the time does she already have black children i'm asking no this is real [ __ ] no i'm at yes serious yeah she had black children black children already she had black children oh um my bad i know it's weird but i gotta ask this on the list i just want you to know i'm so super clear on how you do this [ __ ] i'm super clear what did i watch the real ones the real questions come out in the fourth quarter yeah jay-z no this is real madonna calls and she's like yo let's like get together and i'm like okay she's aggressive i feel like magana is aggressive she's aggressive she's aggressive she's alpha female i just feel like that yeah she's aggressive um she's like i wanna let's make some music i love what you guys do and it's cool so we we you know i'm going back between florida miami and um london and we work on um hard candy and that was cool and it was it's interesting because she worked with me and then also she had a conversation with tim too and tim knew her too because he knew her from before when he was with devon with devante and devonta worked on her album so they knew each other so excuse me so we we went in and like we just did a bunch of records and it's interesting because one record that we did called on and on we put kanye on early in his career with madonna yeah look at listen to on and on he's on that record his mama came to the studio and literally like i want to say a little while after that is when she passed it's crazy that was the last time i saw her she came to the session with madonna i'll bless mama carlier yeah absolutely sorry let's take my trays out um that was a crazy time all right madonna yeah that must have been great like so hold on you had madonna prince michael jackson who else from the 80s did you the biggest artists in the world yeah i ain't gonna lie i'm gonna be honest if you actually retire right now no one will be mad at you because i feel like you worked with everybody is this somebody you didn't work with that you wanted to work with i don't know man people ask me that they've been asking me that for about 10 years i'd love working you've so have you worked with every on your wish list is your wish list complete nah who who who don't tell me gucci mane we work with gucci i remember gucci in 2017 energy towards good breath somebody you want to work with you haven't worked with that's alive pretty much everybody i've wanted to work with we always end up finding our way working together to that one soul older people those are the ones that say no chadey shot a we were able to do a remix for okay prince we did a remix for he was gone already no we did greatest romance ever been told the greatest greatest story that's ever been told greatest romance i'm sorry forgive me one of the two [Music] for prince yeah prince michael i never worked with michael michael was amazing though which is though michael called a couple times yeah one time you and justin was in the studio together yeah and he called when he was just under the studio yeah and he was eating popcorn he was eating popcorn in my hair though she was crazy i was like that's when i knew it was him i was like oh this is him because that's his normal to eat popcorn you guys [ __ ] who would call you over and over and over again and then start eating popcorn i was like oh i'm thinking of thriller when he's watching the movie and he's eating the popcorn i'm like yo this is definitely definitely him and what was you and you was in the studio with justin yeah in the studio with justin and this is another story that i read that was very at some point clips was on jive justin was on drive mm-hmm clips caught beef with jobs and you chose not to work with justin because he was on job what was because you know i imagine you guys are friends what's that conversation like hey what is that like like you know i know it's getting a little deep but you know i chose what you chose not to work with justin because because honestly it was the advice that i was given and justin took that super personal legal advice i plead the fifth okay okay so whatever but now that's when i don't snitch right but i will say that my my the advice i'm gonna take a baby seal out there bro yeah my team and advised not to do that right not to continue to work with justin just no no just to say job i can't work on anything that y'all have because i need y'all to do right by the clips but that's not how they told it to justin and and he was very disappointed by that because he would have understood had it been explained a certain way yeah but then you know i just was the advice was bad and the execution was bad and i had to bribe with that because i didn't think that all the way through to be like no y'all are wrong about this do we this is not excuse me this is not wow i'm twisted this is not how we should do this we should explain this to him so he can be on choreography with us you know and i regret that because still to this day it's like i mean we talked about it but still to this day it's one of those things i look at and go down if i were the person that i am now i would have totally told my younger self yo don't do that that's just that's not right like that's your that's that's that's your team thinking shortsighted they they thinking zoomed in they're not thinking zoned out right because at the end of the day as a producer you could have said yo let me still get this money on the side so why what made you take that stance and say you know what i'm gonna stop his loyalty with his yeah his artists i mean i know you kind of explained that but i just want to get artist friends because you know you could have been like yo clips yo listen i get it that's y'all beef with job but you know i got this whole justin these were my brothers you know and justin is my brother and as far as i was concerned and the way it was explained to me which made sense at the time like he would get it he'd be okay if we just needed to delay a couple of months for the record label to do the right thing right when you say he he would get you too much justin yeah but he didn't get it because we never gave you all kind of strategize together we could have strategized better right and he would have been on your team he would have been a whole team right but that's not what happened you know and they told him look yo this guy doesn't care about you you know and they turned him against me and it took a minute right how long was my two year period it was different we had a very um you know we had a very uh it was very strenuous and he was being made to convince that like i felt like i was more than what i was to him and really all justin justin was a friend to me and i was a friend to him and you know when he was going through tough times i was there for him and when i was going through tough times he was there for me but they but they they vilified me to him and when you're young and even you know everything essentially goes right for you and something goes left and there's a person that you've known for a minute and they go and it seems like they're going left on you you're going to feel a certain kind of way i understood that they painted the picture a certain kind of way he didn't really understand that i was just trying to stand in solidarity with my brothers and i should have brought him along with me on that journey he actually could have helped us change that narrative yeah but the advice that i was given i trusted was to stay away from job period and not cut him off not cut him off but just like nah i can't work on nothing for y'all right now right well what about justin he's not your brother and then they went back and took my words and that's dean it's like 2012 this is crazy yeah no no they went back and just took my words to the you know it just totally blew it out to him and he and i talked eventually and that's when i explained to him like nah listen this is what i was trying to do but i should have involved you that was my mistake because i didn't think holistically my greatest fault in this lifetime is that sometimes i'm too zoomed in meaning like sometimes i'm just sometimes i'm just too zoomed in and sometimes i need to zoom out sometimes we all need to zoom out sometimes we just think about what we're going through and what what we need and even if it's for somebody else it's still too zoomed in you got to get close to the situation you got to zoom out and see it from all angles you got to zoom out you gotta have a bigger picture of things to make sure you guys can hear me when i say that man this is great gonna afford me some more ace of spades anybody want some more issue damn you giving it out that's a first i never seen that [ __ ] y'all [ __ ] better go drink some space right now because you know why man this is the best producer of all [ __ ] times in my in my life um you know i was uh i don't want to say a local rapper because i want to say the war report is a classic what do you mean want to say are you saying are you taking ownership of that yeah i think you but you know it's zoomed out it's a classic now we all understand that but maybe when you was in that moment you didn't know you didn't know and like i said when i met this young man that was right here to my left for me and he said man just listen to me and i listen to you and my life has never been the same since and you know i know i'm glad what you're saying to me but i want to give you your flowers while you're here because it changed my life because it was a different sound just like bam from tv it was a different sound like when band from tv dropped childhood swiss beasts was sitting around like that swiss [ __ ] is not yeah i i'll give you even better i'll give you an even better example forever and this is my friend uh big tigger thank you bro take it from the basement yeah you know what he said to me after oh no drop and i swear to god this is on my father's life big tigger says stop working with the neptunes all they just sound the same on you i will never say this um do you understand who big tigger was at this moment and he sat there and i had i had super thug and i had oh no he was in control of the biggest [ __ ] hip-hop station at the time he pulled me to the side i stopped working with the neptunes i looked at him i wanted to do i don't this is the old nori but i said to myself how am i i know where this is gonna go and i'm sorry i've never revealed this story ever in my life so it's one million percent there there was i want to just say this i mean you didn't ask me it wasn't the thing that was that warranted a response it was just like interesting information but i want to say to him listen love brother you know that's what you felt at the time that's what you felt and you know what at that time i might have sound we might have sounded like everything that we did was repetitious and i knew i needed to grow beyond that and you know what i'm grateful i'm grateful that he felt the same thing we might have felt of our excuse me that we might have felt at the time and i appreciate your loyalty and i appreciate his loyalty to the game none of us are mad he is somewhere doing what he's doing and being very great what he's doing you're you're at the greatest height of what you're doing and i am still just saying thank you god but really quick to piggyback off all this yeah as a dj though originally i could hear the same sounds but i started to say this is genius because you could these records seamlessly go into each other and then beats the whole sound right right but then even going even further coming you know out of miami and the caribbean being very influential it's what we do i'm looking at dancehall and how the rhythms are it's the same rhythm yeah yeah so was there any thought like that to what you guys were doing so i fell in love with the clavichord because it could be as radical as a guitar riff from like led zeppelin or metallica right and it could also be as rhythmic as um you know more technical music and so we were very loyal to that for a while right um and i think and i could be wrong but i think the very first time we ever used the clavichord was on super thought so when you were da da da da da da da da and then after that we we were given the remix to the backstreet boys record and then we were given the reasons oh yeah and then we were given um then we were given the remix to a locks record [Music] and then it just it's just that's when the neptune sound but it started with super thug right because if you listen to uh witness failing by swv or you listen to um uh um use your heart by suv which was the bigger song because that was a single right it didn't have that particular sound if you listened to tonight's tonight it didn't have that particular sound either we developed our sound after we made super thug but you guys consciously said we this is our signature sound now we never said it we just kept going back to what felt good okay and that's like a thing for me like i might not like some people are so good at what they do that they make a declaration right i've never been good at that and every time i make a declaration i'm wrong right so i've learned to not make a declaration and just continue to declare my action and that clavichord that's what gave us that which is not new because like for example like premiere you knew what a premiere beat sounded like yeah it was the sounds that was being used dj premiere no but uh but let me just say i got to say this okay that neptune run is nothing like it listen i'm gonna because i gotta be honest what would you say though the neptune run when after oh like after oh no after that no there was entire mixed shows of just neptune records people still send me fake neptune beats i love it [Applause] [Music] but do you understand that like i'm gonna be honest it's one of the proudest moments right of my career is because i had a chance to believe in you guys yeah and like i said you you gave me the uh baby you want me and i brought it to nas and i just didn't get it i forget what what for jay but we could leave that alone but to see where you at it's a beautiful thing for me you understand that's right nobody clear listen listen i'm gonna say this again please good bad and different up downs around what we what you like were you y'all know what y'all doing here too with this [ __ ] we love it we bring a family in here like two minutes what y'all doing here y'all know y'all know what the [ __ ] y'all doing you have fun this is definitely a formula and it works yes yeah yeah we have fun and our big brother isn't just leaning in and sending them bottles to men but oh [ __ ] i got to finish my purple rain purple ring oh i gotta fill them up let's fill them up holy moly guacamole you tell me where to stop pete oh [ __ ] do you know what holy moly is definitely don't so moley is this herb that was given to someone i knew it uh to stop him from being under a spell yeah they were trying to like put him under a spell put him under a spell yeah and they gave him this what was called moly m-o-m-m-o-l-y and that's why we say holy moly to this day but molly was was something that was given to him to keep him from not falling under the spell of over sorceress actually not medusa it was a sorceress who turned all of uh uh okay maybe i'm mixing this up this was given to drugstore don't worry about it you know you know odyssey odysseus yeah am i saying it right we'll say odyssey because it works okay well so it was given to him to stop him from turning into a pig like they turned the rest of his squad into and he was able to like you know con convince her to like take the spell off of his of his guys and turn them back into human beings from the swine that she turned him into and then he like had like to make love to her for like like a full year straight but molly is what is the herb that she gave him that made him immune to the to the spell that she was putting him under and we had guacamole and that's a great yeah it's not hercules it's odessa's odysseus oh the person you mean yeah odyssey and i'm i'm gonna cut that shirt and say purple man let's put the ring it's a swan is this one it's that swan listen you guys gotta go to swan it's in the design district oh come on so is this a perfect cold do we have to say yo purple you got to have a it's got to be a secret so it's not swine it's swan swan swan so here's the thing i knew that was a thing you went to the bathroom right and i said look you guys i'm not from new york why i'm not i'm not from new york either right and so if you say you say swan you say swan people from new york think you're saying swine right yo this is swan but we really mean swan really the thing that floats on top but it's really doing a lot of work on the bottom swan the bird yes dave gruffman myself alex perez and also interior designer uh ken folk well i only said that there's a restaurant called swine down the street that's why yeah we're not swine swine's good actually getting in there right now no no no it's actually really good yeah they do but we're swan we're in a design district right across from town four okay yes yes i've been there a couple of times great time for slime shout out to best buy liquors i got best buy liquors yeah yeah yeah hit that i just said shout out to best buy liquors for the look are you ready this is called quicktime with slime this is just one or the other for okay you ready yeah i feel like i need your whole attention okay sorry i'm gonna wait for you okay i'm here are you ready yeah i'm good jay of snoop teddy rowdy or quincy both this noise or that noise justin timberlake or robin dick uh who's that who's your who just assembled both and i got to tell you let's please please you know i love them both and and and jackson and given of given all of everything that i'm going through like it's man i love them both despite all everything i love kalis man i want the best for her well despite everything missing girlfriend at one point right no we that wasn't my girlfriend this is christmas no no no but you know what she's definitely somebody who taught me about fashion um and um i felt like we both taught each other about music and art and we made fantastic music together i love her and i want nothing but the best for her have nothing but i'm only uh like khaleesi is like a sister to me i'm only going to have positive things to say period that's it and when it comes to missy like we were born in the same state like man we made on and on together and that's amazing but man missy elliott we need missy here at drink champion is like she's a [ __ ] dream yeah like like period like she was at adidas before i got there he's an uber legend man yeah so listen but let's just so for the both of them absolutely nothing but love and respect i'm not going to ask you no more than a quick time slot i was clear that she was like the very best of everybody it's love for everybody i love that about you pharrell can you make some noise for yourself no here's what i want to make noise for i want to make noise for god man bro i'm going to take my mask off for this one for god listen i'm talking about mistakes listen let me tell you something this [ __ ] could be what i'm about to say could be swiss cheese the [ __ ] up mistakes bad choices and all god is the greatest because what i was told today you know by my uncle who's a bishop he said you know what like it doesn't like your bad mistakes or your bad decisions or whatever it is that makes you human god ain't gonna give up on his purpose for you whatever god has for you he gonna see to it that that happens because that's for him and whatever lessons that you have to incur because you've made bad decisions that's on you but whatever he has for you no man no situation and not even the ill informed or ill instinct decisions that you make can get in the way of that because whatever fate has for you fate has for you whatever god got for you no man can get in the way of and so for me when you said can i give it up for myself no no no no no i just want to take this time i don't know how often y'all have done this but man i know there's alcohol in the room i know there's weed in the room and there are people who are going to have judgments by me saying this but if you think god is only in the in the church and in the synagogue and in the mosque then you don't understand what this world is you don't understand what this universe is the universe is god bro we are inside god and so i'm just telling you right now i'm not giving [ __ ] up for myself what i want and it's super kind of you and i know i need to excuse myself because the purple rain has kicked in [Applause] but i'm gonna excuse myself by just saying you guys don't get it [ __ ] up god is the greatest the blunts in your mouth the alcohol is in front of you the entire room and vision and feeling is in front of you but make no mistake bro god is the greatest god is the greatest i feel like we should make some money i got one more i'm gonna wrap it up so for years i know you for 20 years what what is it it says 96 i i want to say since 97 because the record dropped in 98 and at that year we we needed like a year in advance to drop it so i want to say 97 but i have never realized how crazy your watch game is you spoke about the jury okay that's your wife cause you only do that i know yo that's that richard mill yes sir 1.5 million yes sir show the people please it's okay we're going to make sure no one does nothing because we kill anybody yeah so this was in commemoration to the fact that like we went to mars in 1976 you know like we went to mars in 1976 and you know as as as human beings we sent our first probe there in 1976 and actually a woman that worked on it her name was catherine johnson she was called a colored computer because when she came into nasa black people was still still deemed as as colored because you produced that movie too about though yes sir yes yes call hidden figures he had to figure out so she worked on that she helped get that probe there she was one of the mathematicians to help get that probe there from nasa to the surface of mars okay geez um but the idea that mars is so important to us and that you know the the ones right after us are the millennials the ones after that are gen zirs and the ones after that are our children they're the mars generation because they'll go back and forth to mars like a snowball or that moon and saturn that they're talking about now too yes sir all right absolutely so i say all that to say that like you know you know mars is back on our horizon it's back and and popular and so you know we wanted to make a richard and i wanted to make a watch that sort of commemorated that we really wanted uh we really wanted elon musk richard no one knows virginia richard mill yeah yes yeah we have another one that's coming out pretty soon it's already sold out it's gone but it's actually gonna hit the market pretty soon and that is the sapphire version which is super clear so a lot of watches pride themselves on being double skeletal but this entire thing is x-ray meaning you can see through the side you can see the front you can see through everything not just the top and the bottom like skeletal is just the bones but this is extra we see it all right man yeah that was not a dominican way to pop the bottle what was the dominican way quiet him dancing sorry i'm sorry sir continue continue no it's okay um so listen by the way you know what i don't spend enough time talking about richard miller richard mill has been not only so good to me but he like cares about you know he cares about children uh you know what he does the the various programs that he has and he's a watch company but he sponsors so many olympiads and people who like you know run in the olympics and train in the olympics and actually perform big dancings in the olympics sorry to interrupt yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah breakdancing and skateboarding and olympia it's just like amazing we give you a skateboard yeah you him one skateboard yeah you guys gave me the component one that was that was hard sorry i'm gonna mount that [ __ ] up and skate it for sure um but richard has just been so good man because at the end of the day like you think he's just you know with bubba watson and the doll or whatever whatever but richard actually really cares about like the youth and his like programs he's a lot of programs and and a lot of them are very you know child child and sports oriented and i've just been so grateful because i've i've loved the watchmen since when i was talking about it and can i have it like that like i don't know what is that 2006 or seven and and um and he just you know to meet the guy and see what he really cares about richard how does this happen because i put it in can i have it like that and he heard about it and he sort of sought me out so he kind of came to me it was weird you know and then so we just started working together and so it worked you know the funniest thing is that it's so narcissistic because because it's not like you put it out there and it came back yeah because he is weird because like i would have never thought to go to him at the time that that's my brother kanye kanye is a smart guy kanye when he has an idea he goes after it for me i would have these ideas and if i was lucky enough the idea would come to me so what happened what kanye came to you what the [ __ ] no no no no no no no you're just using as an example kanye is different because when he thinks things he goes after it and i wasn't like that i was more like i would think these things and if i uttered them in a song sometimes those things would come to me right like i you know only after a while i realized oh i got to go after these things that i say you know i have to really turn to help turn them into fruition right and richard mill was one of those things where i didn't go after it i said it in a song me and gwen and that song can i have it like that yeah gwen stefani you got to make sure because you're just using first names you killing us here sorry all right listen the purple rain has kicked out [Applause] yeah purple rain is fun so like so like so like um you know richard reached out and he was like look i'm so honored that you talked about it and saw us do something together and at the time happier came out and he was like okay i saw you dude can i have it like that but then you have the song happy like let's do something and i was like man i really love like i love the idea of like man being um man seeing himself going out there into the into the into the universe and making his mark and as a black man i want that for my culture i want my culture to continue to look at things like that like yo we can do anything i know we lost a brother out there and you know in the first space shuttle explosion but we can we can we could go there we could go to any one of these planets or any one of their moons and bake it and he was like okay cool so then we did the watch together and i just remember him just telling me about all these programs where he was sponsoring all these olympics you got on right there yeah he was sponsoring all these five million yeah but he was sponsoring all these runners and i was like bro you're like you're like killing it in the watch game right now you're surpassing everything the resale on everything that you do is doing really well like you don't have to care about all these black people's watches exist though but hear me he's sponsoring all these black people bishop yes right now actively as we speak he's sponsoring all these like black like olympiads it's crazy no one knows this and so for me it was like oh yeah hell yeah i'm going to work with you not only did i want to work makeup because he was already doing it yeah right right he had been doing it and so like if you talk to him right now there's like there's like olympic runner people who are actively competing who have watches and you didn't know that they were like based on like olympic runners and these guys are actually all benefiting from it it's unbelievable and he's he'll sponsor a village he's i mean things you don't even know what i'm saying to you is he's a good man right great guy he's got every opportunity to just be like a european man who's literally just making his money right but literally he's not he's thinking outside of his continent and going to the places where we are and where we're most afflicted whether it is thinking about the safety of children on the road or or or thinking about what we're going to need when we are really talented but we don't we come from very modest means or we come from a community that can't provide for us i would encourage you to do the homework and see the programs that richard mille has it's not just like superior swiss movement and like very expensive like you know record-breaking um um um um price tags right it's a culture and a culture and good from what you're saying yeah it's changed the way that i think i i used to just think it was just like a cool design of a watch now i know that it's really the personality of a man i'm surprised you don't work with elon in any way musk yeah i think elon's amazing i'm just using first names because that's all he's doing elon elon musk is amazing um we've talked a couple times we're not i i would say that we're friendly but we're not you know i don't i don't talk to him all the time talk to him here and there you know like what would be the initiative with him if you were to work with him like what would you do yeah what would you envision a collaboration between y'all too you know let me say this first before i answer your question elon musk is a man who thinks about things from a very different perspective he thinks in the future when he answered when you ask him a question in 2020 he's going to give you answer this for 2050. right so you want to be very careful and cognizant of what you're asking him you want to make sure you're asking the right thing at the right time and i would ask him to think about how to i would want to go to him i would look at him as a problem solver because that's what he is right but he's been a problem solver for the things that he deems most important for himself i don't know what i mean from his pov right and i don't disagree with the things that he has thought about but i if i were him i would think how do we get elon musk to put his brain cells to consider how to make our supremacist brothers and sisters understand the plight of the people that they hate if we could get elon musk to think about racism imagine if we could get elon musk to think about federal subsidies if we could get elon musk to think about women and we could get elon musk to think about the plight of women i think that he's such a genius that if when he applies himself to a situation he figures his way out his the way that he's looked at sona solar panel solar panels and that business has been ingenious if we could get him to think about the plight of black americans and how to translate that to are less empathetic and even sometimes apathetic white brothers and sisters yeah if we could get him to think about so many things it's the same thing that i was saying for nikolai tesla he named his coach he was alive right right he named his company after tesla same thing i would say to einstein it's like man theory theory of relatively we needed that but brother we needed you for so much more if you could mr einstein if you could have sat down with malcolm but imagine that einstein was coming up also during world war ii he's jewish during nazi germany but that's my point if we could have gotten you to beat mr malcolm right mr einstein if we could have got you to meet warren you know mr martin phrase elon if we could have gotten you just sit down and have a conversation with conway who what's your fault marcus by the way saying that in a white savior type of way what i'm saying is if we could have gotten in a collaborative mind because i started a lot of sit down but they're gonna be people they're gonna people people who cut up everything that i'm saying about this thing said like a white savior could save everything and they didn't hear the context i started this conversation by saying you said to me about elon thinking about things right but what i'm what i'm saying is when you talk to elon musk you ask him a question and the times that i've talked to him is in 2019 i think i talked to him in 2020 about like cars and [ __ ] that i needed because we have four children but when you ask elon a question in 2020 he gives you an answer for 2030 or 40 or 20 40. right so if we could have had him mama cheers so we're gonna add elon asked a question you got to sit there don't count or or or or give a contribut a contributive give a contribution to the thought of some of these considerations i'm telling you what i would have wanted him to weigh in on right purple man that [ __ ] should be illegal chichi get the yeah [Applause] thank you for joining us route neptune's the whole family break it down family 20 plus right at least well i knew i knew pharrell before the neptune was yeah um long story short he used to come out neighborhood while i grew up at huntersville he was coming out there back then and that's how we initially met and then linked back up a couple years later when he was doing music but when you all met were you doing music already in the beginning now but i got a wild story that like when i um when i first linked back up with him i heard he was doing music and i seen him in a club one night on my birthday and i was like yo i heard you doing music no matter the fact he said he heard that rap so he was like yo do something for me right now and i was like super drunk it was like my birthday and [ __ ] so i was like [ __ ] doesn't put me on the spot but um i brought for him and then just like yo come through see how the music world worked and then been rolling ever since that's been my mind so how did you how did you feel when you seen the clips like first take off or oh no i was happy for my brothers well yeah i was there for what wasn't all that well i was there i've seen that i remember yeah all that i'm saying eclipse is particular because i want to say like you know virginia oh no it was like it's grinding i remember was so excited about grinding he told me he said come to the gym and i flew mm-hmm oh i drove to virginia yeah he was in yeah i was in the office when you was in the video of that crib that you you they shot you in that's like my people's joint like right up the street from there that was definitely as you would yeah but to see the clips do it man was a win for all of us like you know like you said we from virginia you don't really get to see that and just seeing my you know my family take off it was like let's go and this is a question for both of y'all how weird is it to see malice go one way and then push her so just in case you want some ace of spade cause you know i'm on that i'm gonna have a spade i'm on that prince rogers nelson all right cool we better know him oh nelson rodgers so look so look when you mention god that's when i got to sit up in my seat and i got to get it right what was your question again about malice and pusher i just want to make sure how'd you feel because the purple rain is kicked in purple rain every time we say everybody stay with me one two three [Applause] okay so at swan you can get any kind of officiating or you know any kind of officiating and in level it's like it's going to be on drain chance but continue that fly [ __ ] you was talking about so yeah that was the conversation so your question is about malice and pusher so malice had a conviction something came over him and i never really got into it because i was afraid of it i was afraid to hear what it was because i was afraid to hear that like if i heard it it would transform me it's funny and i'm looking at a t-shirt that says beats in the hood yep that's my bro but let me tell you something right now with the simple rearrangement of the est it could go from beats to beast and that's kind of like what i was feeling at the time when i saw malice being hit i was afraid of asking what happened to him because i didn't i wasn't i wasn't ready for it i wasn't ready for it he told me was gonna transform me and what hit him so long ago hit me later on in my life and when we saw him go through that transformation all of us we had the utmost respect but you need to know don't think just because a person a person has accepted god in their lives or in their life that they don't think the same things or have the same instincts their instincts may change but who you are is who you are and when god enters your when god and the universe enters your life what you are doesn't change what to what you are remains the same but what you do it for okay that's what changes and i wasn't ready for that i was afraid of that but then like you know when i did like get lucky blurred lines and happy at the same year and all that [ __ ] came out that [ __ ] wigged me the [ __ ] out he wasn't doing cocaine during blair lines right because i was i never touched cocaine all right and by the way the blair by the way by the way let me be real clear about that there's a lot of people that do and i ain't got nothing against them bro you see a lot of cocaine sessions man a lot of people [ __ ] with coke bro i don't i don't i don't i don't judge man no we judge we judge no we do we totally oh [Applause] so here's the thing christmas bro they're [ __ ] judging you man not judging nobody people do [ __ ] like that and it's okay people do other [ __ ] you know what you could be you be doing worse you could be a [ __ ] like you could be a a sex trafficker right wait a minute you could be a [ __ ] pedophile wait a minute you could be a [ __ ] kidnapper wait a minute there's so many things you can [ __ ] be if that's what you've chosen because that [ __ ] makes you feel better than ever i don't condone it and i'm not gonna celebrate you but i'm not gonna judge you and that's the most important part i'm not going to judge you i'm not judging you that that yo bro there wouldn't be no miami like that [ __ ] built miami let's be [ __ ] clearly i'm not celebrating it and i'm not condoning it but what i am not doing i'm going to tell you what i'm also not doing i'm just not toasting you i'm just toasty [Music] society living come on family my bro come on come on what i'm saying to you is yeah what we got to stop doing even when it's the [ __ ] that we hate what we got to do is we got to stop judging bro because the judging is what's what keeps people doing dark [ __ ] and dark circles right and hiding it versus like saying you know what i'm not mad at you brother and i'm not judging you brother i'm angry at what you're doing but i'm not mad at you because i realize something has happened to you and that you need help and unfortunately what happens with cocaine it's like people get caught up in that place where they feel like they can't really say it they either celebrating it or they're hiding it right and what we need to do is we got to get to a place as black people and latinx where we say you know what i'm not going to judge you i just feel like you might need a little bit of help and there are functional users until they're not until they're listening by the way that's not the same thing until they're done of all kinds i'm going to be honest with you we love cocaine stories here you have a cocaine story i do not you do not i do not not at all not at all i know i know i i i i have cocaine stories that i'm not gonna gonna go to share for my friends who were who were absolutely 100 percent in the [ __ ] game right i would never and that's because and let me tell you why i would never i respect that watch this purple rain silk i would never share because i always made it very clear to my friends who were involved in that business brother don't involve me because i'm telling so i would never share because there's nothing for me to share except that one part bro don't do no [ __ ] in front of me because i ain't built like that you tough you live that life you do what you do don't share that [ __ ] with me cause i ain't built for it 911 is my friend one more time you know so i say this so i say this like look we got to get to a place that's a culture where we start to like embrace our brothers and sisters all their flaws right they're gonna all do some [ __ ] that you don't like but you know what we live in this world and you know what it don't matter who won this white house what matters is the general population and 71 71 million of them agree with some things that don't really agree with latinx you see we have a we have a we have a a system here in america when you make it to the american beaches you can request for like you know asylum yeah right some of them right yeah what foot drive for cubans humans but then we have them that that that think to themselves they should be arrested you see we need to spend more more time empathizing so i'm not judging my black brothers and my brown brothers i'm not judging anyone really at the end of the day what we got to do is we got to learn empathy man and there's some [ __ ] that you're going to look at you're going to be like no i don't [ __ ] with that at all but you got to understand that's a sickness bro and it's education as well we got to educate people on more things educate ourselves and educate each other because there are sicknesses in history [ __ ] don't know history anymore so if you don't have no historical context you don't know [ __ ] very true we got to get to that place and all i'm saying is i'm not i'm i'm not there right now where i'm at is look i'm not perfect i'm not special what i am is i'm lucky to be alive and to exist and be able to to to contribute to be a conduit to things to to the greater purpose right and that is for us unifying and accepting each other and educating each other where we can right and not judging that's the problem the judging is that's what [ __ ] us absolutely you know because they do what the [ __ ] they do all the [ __ ] time and then when that person does it go oh he's a [ __ ] up individual no all of you [ __ ] do that it's just that that one got caught right but for us we and when i say us i mean people who know that they're not perfect not just color lines not just sexual lines or genitalia lines because some people don't even identify as gender what i'm talking about is spirit if you identify as generally a good spirit but you got some issues guess what you are you're [ __ ] human right right we gotta get to a place where the good spirits get together and say look none of us are perfect but let's hold each other accountable and let's get each other the help that we need to get to that great place because at the end of the day this land was native american it was built like by black skin and black sweat and the first commodity traded ever in this country was on wall street what do you think it was people okay and that's because we had to stand against the what what do we have to stand against austria baby the wall why do you think they call it wall street i don't even think about that that's us so here's the thing i don't give a [ __ ] what color you are if you have some sort of good spirit in you we need to unify bro we got to educate each other and stop judging and you know what we also need to stand behind our minorities man like you know not just black not just latinx but also lgbtqia because they're human beings they got a brain they got a mind they have ambitions to be acknowledged yet like listen just because you don't agree and you don't get it it ain't for you to [ __ ] agree you know what it's for you to do stand there and be there for your brother and your sister and whatever god god deems judgeable let god and that person deal with that you ain't the [ __ ] judge of the jury we need to be there for each other that's what we need that's what i want for my brother that's what i want for for for drake and pusher that's what i want for you you name it all the people that got good in their heart man you saw a [ __ ] god's plan you know who drake is right you know what i'm saying and and if you and if you look at and if you look at what pusha has done for like virginia like you know what the [ __ ] he is you know he's a good dude we gotta we have to unify all the the good willingness that we have in our hearts that's what we need to unify and i know people are probably listening to be like [ __ ] that but listen after everything i've been through and all the sessions i've been in and the people that i've encountered and the people who have enlightened me and taken me to it to different places in different heights this is this is my result this is my sum if you ask me if i add up everything i've ever done in my life from listening to my parents to you my wife my kids my family the sum is god is the greatest and we got to be loyal to that bro i also got to ask you the same question if i cut you you bleed super thug if you cut me and this is where i know i need to sign off christmas if you cut me right now what will come oozing out of my my body my god is different [Music] you know being down down the neptune's from the beginning yeah how does it feel like you know to see this guy in this luxurious beautiful position that he is and he was an artist at one point yeah yeah um to be honest this is my brother man like what's good for him is good for me yeah just there like as he grow i learned what makes some grand make me happy this is my brother so it's like i'm happy man i love to see what he is and aside from the music and all the stuff he doing that's really like my brother so i'm happy this was great yeah this is dude i'm gonna i'm gonna respectfully cow towel we're gonna wrap it up get your pictures you

Channel: REVOLT

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Keywords: REVOLT, TV, music, rap, r&b, hip hop, Drink Champs, N.O.R.E., DJ EFN, Pharrell, Chad Hugo, The Neptunes, N.E.R.D, Snoop Dogg, Prince, Michael Jackson, Supathug, Justin Timberlake, Nigo, Bape, A Bathing Ape, Skateboard P, Madonna

Id: hfa6-PZ46Lo

Length: 191min 24sec (11484 seconds)

Published: Sat Dec 19 2020

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been obsessed with peepin out the blinds since it came out. top 10 Gucci song for me