Panel Session + UPPERROOM | Jesus '18

[Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Applause] [Music] [Applause] [Music] [Music] Jesus [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] because looking around there's so many different skin colors and so many different backgrounds and so many different expressions of loving him and I was just thinking how much he loves for us to love him so that there's just freedom like to love him in a way that you haven't before whether it's like shouting or whether it's endearing something without words like whatever it looks like there's freedom to just love him in a fresh way today Jesus we love you we love you we use our mouths we use our bodies we use our hearts and we will love you we love you we love you we love you we love you we love you [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Applause] [Music] [Applause] [Music] [Music] they just tired [Music] [Music] [Music] Jesus we thank you [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] those who receive the abundance of grace and the gift of righteousness shall reign and life with Jesus or we receive the abundance of grace right now to reign with you to reign with you to establish your kingdom on this earth Lord to establish your kingdom we received the abundance of grace and the gift of righteousness [Music] yay [Music] you [Music] yeah [Music] more time yeah yeah [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] the storms around me let it breathe call the seeds to the raging me is still everyone jeez [Music] Jesus [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Applause] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Applause] [Music] [Applause] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] go yours is a key [Music] Jesus thank you for your glory thank you for your glory thank you for your presence Lord thank you for increasing our awareness of your presence right now increasing our awareness [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] you Jesus were here for you this is a really precious moment in your mind's eye on I just want you to visualize the man Jesus standing right here how would your heart respond what would you say what would you slow what you say how would you react or do we inscribe all glory to you Jesus all power all Dominion to your name Jesus all power and Dominion to your name Jesus over sickness disease depression anxiety all power and authority is in your name Jesus [Music] power is in your name [Music] [Music] forever is the key [Music] [Music] [Applause] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] well Jesus we thank you so much for who you are come on just lift your hands to the Lord we thank you so much for who you are and the beauty the beauty of your face so I thank you Lord for touching us again and revealing your beauty in Jesus name Amen amen amen can we give the Lord praise huh make it real [Applause] thank you can we think up a room for leading us so wonderful I've been I've been ministering it up a room back in the day they were meeting in houses and I was there back when Julian was like four years old there is but I so loved that we all do we get to do this all together can we go back to our seats are you ready for an incredible panel's time this is usually our favorite a most viewed moment and I'm going to moderate and keep the thing moving and make sure that our speakers behave know these guys you know these guys you think they're safe come on step step come over here step this isn't a girl couch we're still waiting on my father-in-law can you believe that and my wife how many of you husbands know the feeling of I'll be ready in five minutes does that happen to any of you are they here yet no well we're gonna start we we just had anybody here attend the the partner luncheon thank you so much for coming and supporting yeah it was awesome when you get fester bending the mic you just yeah do that do that for a little while no well I'm gonna moderate and we what's up you do interpretive dance I'll be box [Applause] [Laughter] [Applause] [Applause] well might as well keep going well we're just gonna have to stare at each other because the whole point of this panel is to ask Heidi and my father-in-law some amazing questions and they're probably well well we're gonna answer them - I'm just gonna get it started what's that Jenny asked me if I want chocolate sorry for late life stop Christianity is gonna refund a portion of your entry they were just benefits was just at our partners luncheon he was doing the people to support awakening it's so funny he's walking around to each table saying thanks for standing with awakening oh man how many of you got absolutely rocked last night what did you think won that wonderful Steph was in the back with us on the ground it was I walked into the greenroom the Upper Room was on the ground we spent a lot of time on the ground and in these events and man did you see how quickly the Lord moved at all of the miracles how quickly people started getting healed it was awesome yeah you can give the Lord praise I mean I I couldn't keep up with with with the amount of healings Kurt are they here well praise the Lord what on earth some say right here right here on this black leather couch it matches your belt what on earth is Heidi coming okay okay all right have a seat yeah so I guess we can take that couch away it's for the Trinity they don't need a couch let's kill can somebody help get this couch here can somebody help Kurt oh yeah benefits is coming leave the couch he'll lay on it all right okay I we've been receiving let's pray okay let's do that come on let's all stand let's all stand father just stretch your hands Father we thank you for the promise of the Holy Spirit who quickens us and speaks and shows us how beautiful Jesus is so I pray you would absolutely orchestrate beautifully everything we say and do now in Jesus name Amen come on all right you know at Jesus image we receive so many prayer requests now and and I've found that they seem to be there seems to be a few categories that are most frequently sickness physical sickness poverty and a family family salvation and really it's those three I would say are the top three so bub what's that even like would you say those are pretty common across the board poverty physical shilling family salvation and emotional health yeah so my first question is for my father-in-law number one we know the Lord wants to heal its as longing to heal us what are what are things that keep us from being healed we get that question all the time why haven't I been healed yet that is a very common question what would you say well I can tell you what miss gurmann used to say that God cannot heal people who are all wrapped up in themselves that and it's also true I've seen it in my own meetings who you see somebody so uptight you know begging God to heal them God cannot get through that so healing comes when they relax and the presence of Jesus becomes more real than the disease so the minute the presence of the Lord is more real than the sickness they'll get healed so for the people out there people believing for miracles tonight or now what would you tell them well all they have to do is focus on the Lord and not the disease Wow so you have like a lot of the people who are healed in our Crusades would say to me how when they pray for someone else God heal them so someone comes on a wheelchair and they see somebody next to them on a wheelchair and they begin to pray for someone else and God heals them while they're praying for someone else so healing never comes when we focus on ourselves and we're begging God please you know all that it doesn't happen so they and and miss gurmann was right they are wrapped in themselves and when their soul in themselves God cannot get through that so he waits till they relax well forget about themselves so that's a key yeah and the presence of the Lord is the only thing that allows you to forget yourself so when you see Jesus you will not see your disease well that was awesome Wow yeah come on Dan do you remember that uh the crusade him had to be it had to be like four or five years ago you were tired you flew in late didn't have time to pray and you took the platform to talk about that because I think it ties in perfectly okay this was this probably was Sierra Leone if I remember correctly and when was one of those long flights that we were on the other day and we I landed just a few hours before the meeting I thought I'm gonna go to my room I'm gonna take a nap I'll get up a few minutes early pray go to the meeting and the next thing I remember somebody pounding at the door saying the meeting started what's happening I slept in and so you know I jumped out of bed you know that feeling when you get awakened with a rush of adrenaline and I'm getting myself ready I didn't shower I didn't brush my teeth I just went you know and I'm sitting in the car driving to the meeting and I I'm my brain still foggy I felt anything but spiritual let's put it that way and I remember just praying and I said Lord I said I'm sorry I am about to go speak to half a million people and I haven't even prayed and I felt the Lord say to me don't worry I'm not gonna hold myself back because of you and so and here's what makes the story unique from my perspective when I went out there on the platform Peter Vandenberg you know Peter Vandenberg he's been with Reinhard for 30-some years and he's still with me at all the Crusades we were sitting there together on the platform and there was announcements going on they were doing what they call in Africa protocol just recognizing everybody and naming everyone's titles it's completely boring so we were just abusing ourselves you know we're talking we're joking you know Peter's a he's a joker he loves to crack jokes laughing and suddenly I hear just this explosion of sound out in the audience it's somebody I know the sound because at the end of the meetings when we pray for the sick I hear this often what happens is when when a person gets healed and the people standing around see the miracle they begin to scream and you know what's happened you can you could tell before you even see it and and I heard that sound during the announcements and I looked in a wheelchair went up in the air and I jabbed Peter in the ribs I said hey Peter that's got to be a new one somebody got healed during the announcements you know we started laughing and I thought nothing of it and then it happened again and and now it was a little bit weird because you know once is weird enough twice as extraordinary then it happened again then it happened again and by this time they're happening on top of each other so that the sound is becoming a crescendo and literally without any exaggeration at one moment hundreds of miracles started happening all over the place and the sound of the people screaming in sheer just amazement grew so loud that you couldn't hear the guy making the announcements any more over the PA system and he turned to me and he shrugged his shoulders like this and and he said what do I do I said I don't know what to do I didn't start this so he handed he handed me the microphone you know thinking I'm supposed to manage this situation and I stood up there and I looked in everywhere I could see the place was just bedlam wheelchairs crutches people screaming their eyes have been open their ears have been open and and the fear of God came over me I put the microphone down and I went back to my seat and sat down for the next 45 minutes it was without any music without anyone praying without any announcements just miracles happening all over the house and [Applause] and I learned something that day about the miraculous at least I think the Lord was trying to teach me something we all know that it's not about us we all know we don't make miracles but I think sometimes the Lord just has to show us that not only does not only do we not make them but sometimes he does them despite us and and I think that's one of the most powerful revelations that you can have in in the healing ministry you called me right after that yeah and you were like blown away by the mercy of the Lord yeah goodness I wanna I want to say something that fits because one time for the Lord to wake me up he kicked me off the platform told you to get off to him to get to get off the platform and I I sat down he said I told you get off so I went off he said I mean out I went to the greenroom he said no out I went to my hotel and the healings were still happening and people falling with nobody there touching them they were coming on the platform and they couldn't get what the Lord said to me is this he said you tell them I am now behind the pulpit Wow yes can't remembers that and I got off and he kicked me out of the building the stadium he said leave the stadium I felt terrible I felt like you know Jesus doesn't want me around and I went to the hotel and I'm on the phone talking to Charlie McEwan and he's telling me all the miracles kept going on for hours Wow he said the people are coming on the platform and they cannot get near the pulpit they're falling and later I saw it they taped it it went on for like two hours or something I can remember God wants to show us it's not wow that's so good Wow and you know when you focus when you focus on an individual that's when you don't get it you gotta focus on Jesus beautiful yeah Wow yeah Dave remaining on this this theme here in the miraculous for those of you don't know dave has given his life to the nation of Iraq he and his wife Danielle and their children and that's a he's in need of major breakthrough since you've gone have you gained a value for the power of the Holy Spirit and its need to bring the gospel consistently to a people who've never heard it of course we know any anywhere that we may serve the Lord in the world how important the power of the Holy Spirit is but it's very true that that reality is is magnified all the more so in regions of the world where either the Lord is demonstrating himself in power or you have nothing once and especially in parts of the world where there's been traditions and belief systems for over a thousand years that are very aggressive and hostile against the gospel and you're not gonna you know somebody that's believed something and I remember hearing a message one time by TL Osborn years ago where he said that he had showed up to India and he has such a you know passion to preach the gospel and he says and I ran and I quickly realized when it came to the Hindus and the Muslims he says I had a book but they had a book he said I had a story but they had a story and he said it Amelia we just went back and forth talking about what each person believed and then he ended up leaving the mission field you know and really encountering Jesus as the healer the victorious one and went back and then really saw major breakthrough and so you know it's 100 percent for sure you know in the Muslim world especially I believe that without power signs and wonders accompanying the gospel were left with very very little Wow so yeah they're there their method of evangelism is amazing obviously it's a day-to-day there is pink flamingo champion so so so their method you know obviously there's millions of people who are displaced refugees in that part of the world talk about how you guys go into the camps and your method of sharing Jesus now many of the camps now started to close and shut down and people are starting to repopulate the cities that were once you know completely ruled by Isis and we're grateful for that and but for years there we were going to the camps and visiting the camps and and because the Middle Eastern culture is such and you would know very well very hospitable culture you know it's very easy to start a conversation with somebody especially when they're in need and that's what I really believes it really even means when it says preach the gospel to the poor is that when people recognize their need they're very open to the gospel to the Lord to break through and so we'll just introduce ourselves as believers we are believers in Jesus and we're here to pray for your sick if there's anybody who's sick here we want to bless you as well you say bring us the sick oh yeah off the bat for sure and they're very open they're very open and many many times the Lord heals and touches don't Vitus into their tent we'll sit down with him drink chai you know tea drink tea and and talk about Jesus and then after that we often asked them if they've ever had a dream with the Lord or if they've ever seen the man in white and then once again many times I mean sometimes years prior they've had encounters or dreams with the Lord and had nobody explained to them what it meant Wow you know so it's it's a beautiful thing but certainly yeah that's that's the that's the the model or the method or the approach I assume one of them do respond to the gospel let's say the father of the tent the leader of that household responds with the gospel what do you do that typically yeah I mean if the response of the gospel usually if it's the the patriarch or them you know the the father or the grandfather they're responsible to the gospel here it's usually easier to get the family because of the way that you know family works over there if it's the mother or one of the children it's it's a lot more dangerous a lot more secretive if we can get the father things generally move a little bit fast as far as the openness of the family but we would immediately seek to try to meet with them continue to connect with them maybe connect them with some of the other local believers or Muslim background believers to really pour into him to walk them through the process of learning to fall in love with Jesus and surrender their lives completely to him and a lot of it is just growing in the love of God and and because fear is such a it's such a devil in the Middle East you know it's it's manipulated and controlled by fear and so we pray for baptisms the Holy Spirit and baptisms in love and the reality of God his father what's amazing that's amazing yeah what are you believing for for that region of the world yeah we're believing for mass revival we really believe that just as God's visited amen yeah come on in Jesus name in Jesus name yeah the same way God's visited so many regions of the world you know admiring what God has done through SI phan and what would you know Dan is doing even right now we're really believing for stadiums we're believing for open-air meetings and millions of Muslims in Iraq and Turkey and Syria in Iran and the Middle East open up you know the same way they said it wasn't possible in parts of Africa maybe 50 years ago 100 years ago the same way said they said it wasn't possible in Russia or Communist China for for literally thousands and millions and hundreds of millions to get born again is the same way that today you know we can turn on the news and say it's impossible but we don't believe that before Jesus returns he's gonna have a heart with some massive harvest and come on yes Todd I know that we're gonna get to the girls in just a second I promise I know you're you've probably received similar advice as I have regarding the miraculous that coming off that a bit would help expand reach or maybe be more acceptable to different people or different streams may be the healing thing is limiting your message what's your response there what's your conviction pray for them have them get healed I've been in front of lots of people that don't agree I've actually been on airplanes with pastors from churches that are adamant that preach against preach against healing like really mad and when I share my testimony they're like wow that's amazing so the Lord rescued you and I'm like he did he saved me from all this stuff from pornography from drugs from can we get a little more juice on this these monitors please can you hear me now yeah all right let me rewind you so when I'm on unlike specifically on planes and wherever I was when I worked when I worked for the ice company I I was a full-time missionary in America as soon as I got born again so I knew that Jesus wanted to use me to heal and wanted to wanted me to pray for the sick so I mean several times I could just share testimonies I guess of a couple I ran over to a car there was a pastor he was from a denomination that didn't believe in healing he actually preached against it his whole life I was actually delivering ice I ran over and I put ice in his car to help him and he was like thank you very much and and I shared my testimony with him he told me was a pastor and I was like man I said well let me share what Jesus did for me and I shared it with him he's kind of looking me up and looking me down and I could tell that there's maybe a little bit of my dreads aren't very comfortable for him just to start with and so that's okay and and I said to him I said man I said I noticed you limping when you came to your car now when I told my testimony he was really happy but when I started to share about the miraculous he was like okay we're pretty much done I said well wait a second I said you have a leg that's short obviously he's I was born with polio I'm like no way so he's a head pastor of a of a church in Harrisburg and I said to him I said man I said I would love to pray for you he goes man I'm really good I've been you know born this way look God doesn't do that anymore I said well if he doesn't do it then let me pray for you cuz nothing will happen and he's like well I don't care if you pray for me so I said all right I said what I need to see your feet so we had a three and a half inch short leg cause polio made it really small and and he's he's hobbling I said no man I said well look here's the deal and I have his feet my hands I said if Jesus if Jesus doesn't heal your legs not gonna grow but if it grows you got to change everything he looked at me because I changed nothing I go okay Jesus I thank you for this leg growing out right now and the muscles filled out in his leg and his leg grew out three and a half inches so I was like what are you gonna do with that cuz he didn't believe he was an unbelieving believer he believed enough to get to heaven but not enough for having to get into him so I said to him I said what are you gonna do about that and he looked at me and he goes I don't know what I'm gonna do I said what could you get up and give me a hug we start there so he stood up and he said with a hug I don't know I said can you walk and he walked and he goes oh my god I said that's right he's our God he's Jehovah Rapha look what he just did for you and he looked at me and he goes this doesn't happen I said well walk again and just tell me it doesn't happen again and he walked and he goes oh my god oh my god I said what are you gonna tell your church man oh really so we hugged I told him how much I loved him he goes man you have a business card do you have a card I'm like I'm the Iceman I deliver Ice Man I love Jesus with all my heart just catch there one more yeah I just love it cuz I don't need the person in front of me to agree with me I don't want them to be in a position of okay I'm expecting you to pray for me because when you approach people in public they're not expecting a miracle to happen and a lot of people have been taught that it doesn't happen today that that's not for today so I just I'm just gonna let me share my wife Jackie who's amazing she's in the front end up baby my best friend in the whole world so for in my life for when I first started to believe that healing was for today because I saw somebody get healed of leukemia and the guy wasn't expecting to get healed he actually told the pastor you're a last resort the wife said we're out of options we don't believe in healing we've been taught her whole life that's enough for today we've been Christians our whole life and and honestly this is totally weird for us but the doctor sent my husband home he's on Hospice and so he's gonna die 49 cases he's the 50th and the doctors haven't given him much time to live and he's like you know is that gonna matter and Dan looked at him and he goes absolutely not let me pray for you so I was like oh my gosh what is that cuz I never saw healing I didn't understand but it was faith because face the faith is the substance of things so for whether they're hoping or not you can hope for them so I'm really excited about this so Dan prays for him two weeks later this he hobbled out two weeks later the medical report comes in he's completely a 100% healed of leukemia Wow and so I literally lost I lost it I said oh my god I'm praying for everyone I'm praying for everything that moves to Dan and he goes okay amen and so we went to Walmart the first trip my wife and my daughter and I and I saw somebody on a on a walker and I took destiny over my little seven and a half year and I was like come on honey let's go pray first she goes why daddy I said because these signs will follow them that believe in my name he said in Jesus name we're gonna lay hands on her she is daddy I'm not comfortable with this I'm like I know just come with me so she's behind me so we pray for him we asked her okay check it she goes thanks for trying and she just walked on and so this happened for like a long time like three and a half months we prayed for an average of ten people everyday and I saw no miracles at all prayed for over 900 people without seeing anything but every time I went back to my Bible it still said the same thing it didn't change so I went back and it said these signs will follow them that believe I'm like lord help my belief I I obviously I'm a Christian I love Jesus about my heart and I know they need healed and so kept praying kept praying prayed for over almost a thousand people and I got a word of knowledge and someone got healed and it was amazing amazing and then my first week I saw two people my second week I saw like three still prayed for about ten people every day and in five and a half months it took about 45 minutes to write down testimonies from every day at work not in ministry but I was in ministry because I got drafted because I'm born again so I mean and so it was amazing so my wife was like I'm never going in public with you again two weeks in she said never and she meant never and she didn't go in public it took nine months so nine months in my wife finally decided that she was gonna go but she wasn't gonna see us in the store and she said I'm going over here and you're going over there you're getting these things I'm getting these and we will meet in the car don't talk to me in this store seriously so my daughter and I are walking down the rows and my wife is way over there and we see someone in a scooter I go destiny look she goes dad mom's here I go yeah but she's way over there and we she had already seen hundreds of people healed and come to Jesus in stores Walmart like because of my full-time Christian so we just believe everywhere so we walk down this lady we said excuse me I said could we pray for you she goes no and she was mad now she is not in a place of wanting to receive she is pretty angry she's really bitter and she is totally in unforgiveness and I'm not making it easy for her so I said please let us pray for you she goes I don't need you to pray for me I go but you're in this chair and you need healing so she was like I am really done here and I looked at her granddaughter she's eight and a half and I said hey would you want your grandmother to play with you again and the granddaughter goes grandma let him pray and she was so mad at me I mean she's purple I'm not kidding when I say mad she was like mad because I'm getting her granddaughter's hopes up but the Bible says get your hopes way up so I looked at her and I said come on let's pray for Grandma she goes hurry up she's not happy she's not in receiving mode she doesn't have any worship music playing she is really not happy with me and she's really mad that I drug her granddaughter into this and she wants me away from her as quick as possible so he said okay girls let's pray hurry she leans forward a little bit so we put our hands on her in the name of Jesus we command this to go in Jesus name and she looks at me and I said I said how do you feel she was I'm in pain here she's been bowed over its foot for 27 years she's been on chronic pain medication for 27 years she's in a fused seated position and cannot stand up straight they fused her back like this and so I looked at the girls I said come on let's pray again and the brand thought the grandma is so mad she's like furious I mean she's furious sweating and it's not the Holy Spirit she's just really mad so we pray for again and and I said how does it feel she goes I'm in pain and I said you need to stand up and check you need to stand up and check so she stands up like this and she's shaking and I said can we pray again she goes hurry up I'm not kidding this is really how it happened so we prayed again we put our hands on our back in a wet Wow and her back wet and pumped she went and she stood up like this and I went oh my god I started to freak out oh my oh Jesus and I'm trying my daughters laughing her granddaughter it looks at her and she goes grandma run and they run down the aisle and when they turn around my wife walks in oh my god in a skirt it's exactly what I'm saying I said she comes back she goes what's wrong I go nothing can you please go tell my best friend her name is Jackie what the Lord did for you she goes I sure will she turned around and my wife is like oh my god she's so mad she's purple so she walks down starts talking this lady and Destiny's hiding behind me cuz it was really bad she's hiding behind me she goes dad weren't so much from what we need to leave we need to leave we need to go now we need to leave so mom is down there and looking at me like I can't believe you're sending this lady down she's looking at the chair she's looking at me oh my gosh so she goes down she starts talking to my wife my wife looks at me and she's shaking her head then the lady turns around and lifts up her back the a deeply embedded surgery scars for four surgeries she's not she looks at my wife bends now and touches her toes looks at my wife and my wife went and lost and that day that granddaughter drove the scooter out of the store Wow for the last time we went home I prayed I thank the Lord Jesus my wife completely repented God spoke to her and said I've given you a brand new husband and she says that God said he believes me now why won't you and that day it was the end of Labor and we got to give birth to this amen come on I want I want you know the Lord has a sense of humor I want you to share the testimony of how you got healed with a pink i-ight every year around March I remember because it was my birthday March 25th so every year I would always get pinkeye and I would get this horrible sinus infection every year right around my birthday for years and years and years so I was up in my room when I still lived at home I was probably 20 or so and I have this is your day on proud of me so yes I'm watching my dad show this is your day and he's in the kitchen and he's not a quiet man so I can hear him downstairs in the kitchen so I hear him just doing stuff and I have this infection in my eye and my eye is killing me in my left eye and I hear my dad goes somebody right now is being healed from an infection in your left eye and you get it every year and God is healing it put your hand on that eye and I go yeah touch the screen I'm touching the screen I hear my dad downstairs in the kitchen in real life he's on TV and God it was the trickiest thing but God healed that infection it has never come back yeah killed me I yeah yeah when you had the cold yeah I was in need of a healing and I'm watching that been in on TV oh I was sick I had a terrible cold I couldn't breathe nothing I was had a fever and I see that guy sitting there looking so good his hair is fixed my hair is a mess I'm in bed feeling terrible and he looks and he says if you want God to heal you put your hands on the screen and I'm thinking Oh Lord now this is really gonna be crazy so I got up out of bed I did before God I got up out of bed I locked the door so no let's say so no one would see it yeah I crawled before the Lord I was crawling I was so bad I could walk I'm crawling you know like the woman with this your blood you know I come to the TV I think this is really crazy this is really crazy because ben-haim is praying for Benny and just doesn't make any sense I put my hands on the screen I'm looking dear Lord this is really weird and and and then he says the other guy been in the guy on TV says someone is being healed of a real bad cold I'm kidding you he said you can't breathe you be laying in bed describes the detail I'm going through and I felt he goes right through my hands I get healed on the spot that convinced me Damien has nothing to do with it that's all about Jesus Wow so you know I tell I tell my kids you know under the anointing I have no children under the anointing I have no wife under the anointing I have no friends under the anointing I belong to Jesus I had to remind myself that that's not me that's the guy that God is using and I need it too Wow I want to get to Steph last I feel like the question I'm gonna ask her is gonna set something in motion that's really important Jenny how has your life changed as of late concerning the presence of Jesus over the last few years and wow that's a good question obviously you guys know Jenny Jenny's grandparents are the Copeland's they're amazing while their dearest friends they sent a message in yeah you know Michael and my best friend yeah we are hate yeah it was an arranged friendship yeah the Lord something amazing in you okay you know what you know I grew up reading the Word of God and and line upon line like making sure my confession was right making sure I was walking in faith and I'm so thankful for that but for me there was not that this isn't what my family taught but just from what I received there was something missing about encountering the presence of Jesus and encountering the face of Jesus and in that I think I realized that it's one thing to make sure your confessions right to make sure you're reading the word to make sure you're doing that but if it's separated from Jesus then it's nothing and and not that it's nothing but the experience that you have it's it you it needs to marry each other the word and the spirit and you know we can get so good at one thing and forget about the other and actually it was really a divine connection with Michael and Jess whenever I began to realize you know what I can encounter Jesus I can read my Bible and not think about myself or not not try to make myself obey try to make myself you know have an encounter or understand but actually first I want to meet with you Jesus I want to see your face Jesus in the scripture I want to see you I want to encounter you and so really having that you know like even when I would preach at whenever I first began I had to make sure I had a really impressive message and when you do that without Jesus and the presence of Jesus you aren't that impressive as as much as you try you'll never be and you can get like tweets you know you're like oh that'll tweet good I'm gonna write that one down you know don't judge me cuz maybe you've done it too though but but truly it was when I realized you know what I would rather someone come up to me and say while you were speaking jesus said this to my heart while you were doing this Jesus said this to me and I don't care if if anyone remembers my words but I want them to have an encounter with the father and with Jesus and you know what I realized too that when we remove ourselves from that from from preaching and realizing you know what I don't care if my message is the most simple message on the planet if people have an encounter with Jesus that's that's their reward this is my reward you know I we don't want people to look at us we want them to look at Jesus and so you know even I've been convicted this week during worship you know it's so easy during worship even to worship the worshipers and if we're in a worship service and the person that we're thinking about is the person that's giving a gift or giving a message and we're not actually thinking about Jesus then it's a redirection of our attention but anyway and all of these things I think it was realizing you know what I can just simply love Jesus and it was actually when I realized you know what it's not about my impressive words or my impressive message but it was about the presence of Jesus Christ that Jesus actually did things whenever I would speak and whenever I would do things and then you know it's like the weightiness of his presence in everyday life even you know I live in Greece and life doesn't look like this so much but it looks like going to a home and being with these kids but you know it's you hear the heartbeat of the father every single day and even if I I don't tweet a lot or or you know have very impressive things I can show I hear God's heartbeat and so it is all connected because every single day wherever any of y'all are you know you are walking in the presence of Jesus so your life is beautiful and your life is if he's if you're encountering him then and you're in your world this is your ministry and I don't know I just it I think when I realized you know what Jesus it's more about you than it is about me it's more about your presence and it is actually when I started on the house I had to leave Greece for three months because of my visa and whenever I first began the home I wanted to do the dirty work I wanted to get my hands dirty but like I didn't know Greek at the time I know I'm getting better now but but you can't tell a kid to stop hitting the other kid if you don't speak Greek so it would be chaos mayhem ma'am so I remember God would be bringing these people in to serve these kids and love these kids well and but I wanted to do it I wanted to be the one and in the Lord said this is not your assignment you need to step back and empower them to lead and then he would bring other people in the director and and be honest she's amazing but she I wanted to do that but the Lord said it's not your assignment you need to empower them and and just love them and serve them and so and like when we first began I was gone for three months and you know what is so humbling it actually grew and and did better when I was gone so far Mike thank you Lord for the lesson that it's not about my presence but really it's all about the presence of Jesus and I don't want anything if he's not in and I don't want a message if he doesn't breathe through it I don't care like I for me everything has changed in knowing and recognizing you know what when I read my scriptures I want Jesus in them not just a message not just an impressive I want Jesus so amazing then first yeah Ben this is a really important one what are you looking for in a wife yes yeah give me a mic is that looking for a godly woman no don't don't let Todd do it for you in the scripture it says the Lord is my judge and this is one of those times God please judge the left side a little bit just a little Daniels got me in the last two conferences man I'm gonna get you back so bad I don't know what I'm gonna do I'm making a home team working on it I'm looking for a woman [Applause] all right that's good that's good that's good you I don't usually get lost for words but every time Dan does this I just want to run like I just want to go against him then you've seen incredible breakthrough in Europe I really historic breakthrough and you know a decade ago I remember hearing people say you know Europe is the preacher's graveyard God's not doing anything there it's post-christian it's getting darker and darker the Lord began to speak to you while you were in reading what what how has this happen how when you think of what's going on there what's going on at the core well I can say what's going at the core of me but the core of what he's doing in Europe and and I would sum what he did in me is just simple obedience like he would say do this and he'd give me the faith to say yes and so I just go forward with that faith and I didn't feel that there was any stumbling block to that faith honestly there's challenges but if God has really spoken to you for me God's voice sort of sits like residence in my spirit I don't know how to explain it it's like a resident yes if God said it and I've said yes it just sits there resident Lee regardless of the challenge in front of that so that's how it happened for me but what God is doing in Europe and they call it the Dark Continent now is something remarkable and I describe it in one sentence when we are standing in front of a crowd of 25,000 people which is happening in Europe it's just ridiculous and and that in Africa like that would be like I don't know someone said that to me once it'd be like drawing half a million people in Africa or something it's not common in Europe that God was not not he's always able but it just wasn't common that these mass crowds of people would come for Jesus and and so we're sitting back just kind of like this is a dream to be even part of what you're doing Lord and part of you're dreaming and but one thing always comes to my mind in the stadiums it constantly want to see the people he speaks to me says it's me in my people it's God in the people we don't have to lead them it's drawing them and when you get to a place it's dark when it begins to get really dark I think people get starved the dead religion doesn't feed them they get starved for what is real and so in Europe we're seeing people hungry for what's real and Europeans are becoming missionaries to Europe which is it's not wrong I love going to Asia in all these different places it's wonderful but there's something wrong when your own nations in degradation and you've fallen asleep to the power of the gospel in your own heart not for your country and so God is waking up the European church and they are literally it's God in the people moving them to become missionaries to the European continent Steff I really feel like the Lord sent you to be with us it feels like you've been with us a million times and we really feel like you're family how many of you love staff I've been seeing the Lord's deep touch on you the last few nights last night included the night before that what what do you feel like he's doing what what does the Holy Spirit doing with you what do you feel like he's saying I don't know I'm just open to it I am I feel like on my insides I feel like my whole body body looks like I should be a fish out of water like I flipped my whole body inside has been vibrating since I got here and it's it's overwhelming in the best way and it just keeps intensifying but I can't help but think like six months ago the Lord said to me I'm so much better at being found than you are at introducing me and it it shot through me and I was upset about that but I was also so relieved by that and I I felt like he asked me to just just start setting a table for him for people for the presents in a different way I feel like there are little things that he's asking me to do not that those are important in this moment but I feel like he's reintroducing himself I've been a pastor's kid my whole life and I saw that real Jesus and my parents um and I've walked with God my whole life there's no one I love more but there's something that's intensifying about his company being keeping company where this presence is more precious than keeping company with anyone else anyone else you know I feel like I'm coming home when I'm here I don't I don't even have words for it yet so it feels hard to even talk about but I I do feel um it feels like a slow position it's happening like he's taking me up on my Jesus have everything you you have to have everything you must you must he must be everything he must be everything and I I feel him becoming everything in my not just in my words not just in my own in my desire but I feel it in my body can I say something please Stephanie I'm gonna tell you something that I felt last night you know when I was talking to the kids after the service and I felt it when you came when I was at that lunch before this this meeting while I was talking I was talking about the Fellowship of his sufferings and you were crying the whole time young lady you know very few of us are chosen to comfort the master you're one of them because I sensed it last night with her you know she's she's on the floor her head is almost where my feet were you know and all those kids who are sitting on the floor and the gods part it's really strong back there last night and when I was speaking you were did you know you were trembling you were shaking and I wonder like why is this young lady having an experience you know though there are not many Basilius links come here yeah come come sit between us there's not bring bring your mic with you give her a mic there's not many Basilius links there were not many Basilius links on on the planet when she was alive but she she affected millions of us with one message to comfort the son of God and that was message a message none of us heard or wanted to hear because we saw Jesus in a different light like he doesn't need our comfort but the Bible is clear that Paul the Apostle his greatest cry and he was 59 years old almost when he said those words he passed away shortly after that by the way that I may know him and the Fellowship of his sufferings he said that that's his cry was to share in the sufferings of the Messiah you know it took me years to even understand like why would Paul say that like why would he say that because he was a lover of the master Jesus was all to him and think about what he gave up as he talks in Philippians you know all that knowledge that he had as a Pharisee meant nothing to receive the excellency of the knowledge of the Son of God he gave up everything nothing meant anything to him you know before I die I have one request from the Lord that he would allow me to understand what I just said and to experience it well young lady you're gonna experience it probably before I do and in Gaza no use you and you know you told me how your daddy you you used like you'd go down and you'd see him watching my program and he was crying but you see it's in you already you know just wake up in the night and dad would be weeping to the light of the TV watching but but but you have to understand that you already have it in you like why would your daddy be weeping for one reason he adores Jesus and your mom's same thing and now it's in you you know that's faith is in you like you know Paul tells Timothy the faith in you was in your grandmother you know well it's in you and I loved what what you said Jenny about your grandparents and I want to say something about it can i but but I gotta tell you nourish that I mean Michael gave you that mic for a good reason nourish that sweetness with the Lord and shut the world out and and and and the Lord's gonna use you to bless many saints because right now he's looking for what you've got he needs it more than you know you know I was in Darmstadt a few days ago in Germany and I walked into that chapel and I began to weep should feed it in that Chapel his sweet substance because those sisters adore him and he's looking for comforters nobody you know says that anymore because they're all looking for it themselves you know yeah but the Lord wants us you know the Holy Spirit I've told the story many times I was in my bedroom one day and this was in in the UK when the split of God visited my life and I was in fellowship with the Lord and I hear the lady I was staying with why why I'm you know people that are in my way I'm and the dear lady very elegant lady with an elegant home she said Benny lunch is ready and I wanted to go for lunch and I felt someone touched my arm he said please just a few more minutes the Lord said just a few more minutes it's happened to me more than wife's twice it happened well the war Lord said don't leave yet just a few minutes because he longs for our fellowship you see he longs and in the cry came out in Paul's heart the Fellowship of the Holy Spirit be yours just the Lord wants that fellowship with us then that's why God is using you you know because you love that fellowship with him same with Danny same with Todd even though he's got that hair same with with him in Iraq you know you love the fellowship of the Spirit Michael Jesse all of us we love the Lord's presence and the Lord's presence is the Holy Spirit now one thing for Jennie that's your name right I'm saying right yeah you talked about your grandma your grandpa guruma and the amazing message God gave your grandpa Kenneth Copeland we need that message more than ever he's a mighty voice your grand papa some mighty voice of God that's why I love him so much he's a man of faith and power and I've known him a long time but what you said was beautiful and divine I was telling Michael because you just said something powerful that maybe people missed we need more than one stream in our life what are you going what are you doing guys you better wait wait wait alaikum I could come in here and put your hair over my hair and please get pictures now all of you there we go yeah Jesus outfit this is crazy this is crazy I can't believe it's happening here only a Michaels conference and I delivered now please I want to know I want to see what on earth I look like with that hair on my face can we now go back to spiritual things please oh dear God is that me for that brother I'm gonna get you now can't get can we go back to spiritual wild where did you find them yeah and that's why we love you okay let me just finish then we'll give you back the mic cuz I think people want we need to leave so baptism you found something powerful we need more than one voice in our life and your Grandpa's voice is so needed in all of our lives no one is hungrier for the Holy Spirit than your grandpa do you know what your grandpa did can I tell you something to happen he and your grandma came to the maybe center in Tulsa when I was ministering they got on their knees in front of me asked and they asked me to pray over them and your Grandpa's hunger was the presence of the Lord I was so touched I didn't know what to say and all all on the platform and Richard and all the great people from you know that that city was sitting there and Ken Copeland on his knees and Gloria on her knees that's humility that's preciousness I'll never forget that amazing moment in my life because it taught me something about your grandpa his hunger for Jesus he's a lawful Lord that's why God is using him the older he gets he's more childlike than ever yeah he told he told Michael to write a manual about what did he say he told me to write a manual on praise and worship and experiencing the presence of God because he wants more yes I have to write a manual just just for your brother go he's a hard man yeah but all the greats were like that yeah you know Kathryn Kuhlman used to listen to do blessing actually you love David du plessis teaching brother Copeland told me a story in person he said oral when he was a student the Oral Roberts invited him and your grandmother to his house and they got there and oral was sitting on the floor in front of the couch indian-style like a little kid and he said teach me everything you know about faith and and brother Copeland was working for oral at the time as his pilot he said what God has given you I need I'm not leaving til you give me everything you have we need that message for today we need the teaching on faith today more than ever so thank God for your grand Papa and the people said and let's all stand Stephan Utley to pray come on lets you receive presses Jesus it's your company way long the key it's your eyes we long to memorize it's your voice we love to hear above the rest above the noise it's your word that holds us together it's your that holds us together the very fiber of our being is held together by the voice of the Lord and we just again give ourselves to you to know you to love you to be loved about you we ask that you would get your full reward we thank you for your fridge that you would call as a friend yes we would become your friends you would call us your friends that you entrust us and the way would be everything we were fashioned to be that you would get all your glory and your precious name we ask amen [Applause]

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Published: Sat Dec 15 2018