My First Go Lesson (as a complete beginner)

i am i'm titling mine chess masters slash go patzers no monsters yeah i think i cut my tit i forget what i titled mine i think it was just learning go it was very not bait but maybe maybe the future youtube video will be chess master [Music] struggles at learning go and you won't believe what happens next nice also hey chat how's it going i don't know if akash is live but if you're watching on my stream um this is going to be very new so this is a long time friend of mine a chess master goes by akash on twitch double a k double a sh and i think the plan is to learn go the only thing i know about go is from watching akash's streams you can still hear me right yeah i can hear you yeah i was just trying to give a brief introduction nice dude i'm i'm super excited for this because i have a feeling that you're going to pick this up game up super fast it's actually been like i can't remember the last time i tried like learning something completely completely new and just being like a complete kind of beginner or having kind of a complete behavior of mindset so i'm excited because like i've do a lot of like chess content for newer players and i try and instill like this sort of beginner's uh mindset philosophy so i'm kind of both excited but also nervous to to kind of experience what it's like to to be a noob again oh it's a very humbling experience but i think you're going to really enjoy it because go is the it's a game that has like a lot of similarities to chess um here i'm gonna actually go ahead and challenge you right now i'm just gonna it's gonna just be a casual game and then i'll kind of explain the rules to you yeah that would be great because i i have not formally even learned the rules it's not working received it's a challenge received okay game started so it talks to you does it talk to you too yeah i have um i have a spanish voice for mine just because the american or english voice is kind of annoying me interesante yeah okay so we're playing on a nine by nine board right now this is kind of what people use to start um like beginners like kind of like mini chests or yeah exactly there's a great comparison but i get the points yeah so the game is um about just capturing territory and the first uh thing that i'll tell you is unlike in chess controlling the center is not actually that great okay um and go and that's because in order to capture territory you need to surround them and so if you think about like this e5 square you would need four stones to surround it you would need e4 d5 e6 am i able to right click and draw oh no i can't draw arrows can i not in this game in a review gotcha i think we can but if you look at j9 right wait so can you repeat that you said when it comes to e5 to surround it you need e4 you need the four kind of uh adjacent square or adjacent intersections exactly yeah so not the diagonal ones but the adjacent got the adjacent points versus j9 you just need h9 and j8 right oh yeah okay got it so now what what's up what's the terminology for did you call it intersection or points i don't know actually i think point by the way guys just fyi i'm not uh eric and i are both much stronger at chess than we already go this is going to be a little bit like the blind leading the blind but it should be fair enough at least you know the rules like i feel like someone who knows the rules of chess can teach someone who doesn't know the rules so yeah just have to stay one step ahead exactly exactly so i have a little more experience than you but in this game black goes first so oh you're yeah so you're black your turn to play system and what do the black dots what you could are there names for the black dots or they're just kind of um those are called likes i think those are called star points okay and they're just technically they're actually um i would recommend you start playing there okay because it's it's kind of an efficient use of space right you're you're starting to develop some influence over this corner but you might be able to play like on so it's a multi-purpose exactly exactly and that's like what this that's what this game is about it's it's about just like multi-purpose moves i feel like this is very historic i just played my first ever move and go which i i have not recorded my first ever move in chess it was too long ago okay so you did the same thing i think twitch didn't exist back then yeah yeah we weren't recording ourselves all the time we became narcissistic over the ages okay so you talked about the concept of surrounding the the thing yeah um and that's how you capture a piece right like if i so if i got pieces on c4 b3 c2 and d3 i would just capture your piece um yes all right yeah c4 b3 okay exactly so you can choose to attack me but um i have no sense of strategy so yeah i i would just play at another one of the star points right now okay um because i'll trust you you know in chess like space is a very important concept okay okay so i'm just going to i'm just going to copy it i'm tempted to like use the last star point even though you told me controlling the center isn't necessarily good so that start so that's not really a star point that's called oh man i should i should remember what's called the center yeah it's basically the center there's all these asian like japanese terms for in go that are kind of hard for me to remember oh chad okay so there's some go players in my chat they're saying tengen or tangen yeah okay so um i'm just going to plot my point there because if it's wrong then i'll learn cool yeah and you know it's it's not as i don't think it's as bad in a 9x9 game because if you look at your g3 and g7 stones they're pretty close to e5 um to the tanking stone so you can create some support so so i imagine there's some concept of like peace harmony even though like they're just kind of stationary you want to harmonize so i'll give you an example of a harmonizing move i don't know if this is the best move but you could play something like f6 where all those stones are diagonal to each other but those stones are actually considered connected um do you know why they're when i say that do you know why they're connected because i mean i know diagonals aren't like relevant in terms of capturing but i feel like it's a strong positional strategy because i'm seizing turret like if you place let's say on g5 then my f6 the the wall of of g7 f6 and e5 will will kind of block you in along the right lines yeah well kind of so stones are connected when they're touching each other right so if when you play f6 let's say i try to be greedy and i try to surround your e5 stone like i would need e6 f5 e4 and d5 um and oh then i can surround you back right well not necessarily so like five um you could surround me back eventually but if you're afraid of these stones getting disconnected you can just play at e6 so it's like if i play f5 you'll play e6 if i play and so connected stones are one group so like right now your e5 stones alone but if you connect at e6 or f5 then i have to surround those three stones so it becomes it's harder to kill big like okay i guess i don't fully understand the concept of capturing or surrounding i know there's a concept where you have to keep at least one open liberty um which is like the like you can't run out of of adjacent spots right yeah if you if you don't keep one um one open liberty and you don't have yeah if if you're if all of your liberties are taken up your and your captions okay yeah so for those that don't know liberty is the um adjacent squares to a group so i'm just going to play this it's a bad move um okay what's your intuition telling you about like about that move um well you're you're trying to invade my territory which i already control um my first intuition is telling me i want to keep building this wall i want to play f4 to try and box you in even more uh it's a good idea yeah and then even if you play something at f5 like you haven't you still be stuck i guess you like you're gonna need like a long like several moves in a row to escape like outside the edge which i don't know exactly i assume that it's going to come down to some tempo which i'm going to win yeah so well yeah right now this yeah now this g5 stone is basically dead because i mean i guess in theory i could keep it alive but in reality you have so much strength with this like little arrow of stones that you got going on here that this territory is pretty much yours so so even though like your your sony g5 has all four liberties open it can't really like it's hard to actually expand far enough for it to be saved yeah it's kind of like when you have a piece overextended in your opponent's territory okay um you know it might not be attacked but it's as good as that okay and then yeah so a question about capturing or maybe i'll get to see but um when as a thing is is captured it's just taken off the board or is it replaced by my color that's a good question um so if you fully get rid of um if you fully get rid of a group's liberties um and it has zero liberties then it's captured um if you control a territory and i can't create a living group um and a living group i'll try to demonstrate what a living group is with the stones i have okay um in a second but a living group requires two eyes um i i know like a a small okay i've heard the term i before and i assume it's like a little diamond shape with like a one one open point in between yeah it's it's yeah it's it's a it's a point that has four of the adjacent points uh occupied by the same color yeah so for example if i wanted to form an i like f6 g7 f8 and e7 i don't know if you followed that but if i if i added added f8 and e7 i would have a mini i yeah you would for now um but you have to find a way to connect all those stones together but it would be it would be good eye shape that's kind of how people refer to it okay so i really have no idea if i should just try and capture your piece or try and fight for more territory knowing that your g5 piece is probably gonna die i'm just gonna like go i'm gonna play a kind of random but a move that i don't know it's just my intuition i'm gonna play this okay nice i like it i like him so what why did your intuition tell you to play that move um because someone is in in my chat offering me 20 to be you and i assume that uh i mean i want to keep building my wall and i don't want to give you any any breathing room yeah so i'm going to play this because i'm i'm trying to connect these stones and if you play your stone if you played a stone at c6 it might be a little bit troublesome so i'm trying to create what this is called okay ah now okay let me let me ask because at some point like the board's gonna fill up and then i remember watching one of your streams when you said like there's no concept of zugsvan because you can pass right yeah towards any pass so go ahead yeah so is a game won by just having more stones another player it's won by cap controlling more territory and um the stones yeah it's just about territory that's like the me okay that's right but having more territory should translate into more stones right yeah okay it should because you need stones to cap to surround territory okay so i feel like i'm already close to controlling more than half the board but i don't know yeah you've got a very good position here i think but oh thank you you have some cutting points potentially um you're playing all these diagonal moves right but eventually you're gonna have to connect these stones together yeah i've i guess i only see the value in playing diagonal moves to keep as many like i like i could already form an i uh with e7 and then everything there would be safe i'm gonna play this and i don't know if that's good but it looks interesting okay cool cool i am it's a so someone offered you twenty dollars to win yeah shout out to braden so so far chat has not suggested a single move i don't think i'd like to keep it that way i've seen other like streamers starting streaming chess and then chad is always like suggesting moves and i assume it could be very annoying okay i feel attacked yeah so i'm so i'm i'm putting some pressure on this d6 stone but yeah remember how i said that those diagonal stones are connected like if i play it d if i were if you were to pass and i were to play it d5 you can always connect you can always keep that stone alive by playing it e6 so it's not really in but i could also really wait so you said e6 but i could also keep it alive by playing at e7 right or no um are there technologies in this um i think we can yeah you can offer take backs i'm just curious so let's say you play you want to go through a potential line um what was i just thinking so you were imagining like you get another move you have to play d5 and then i place a stone at e7 mm-hmm uh okay this is placed in my eye yes i can why um the reason is you can place a stone in a at a point that has all the liberties taken if you're capturing another stone oh that okay that's important yeah and and that's critical and that goes i'm going to try to make two eyes soon um but that's really that's like a very critical point you could have like a really really massive structure but if you don't have two eyes then it's not alive yet so like this d6 stone is safe for now but if you don't connect to these stone to these other stones it could be in danger later so let's imagine let's imagine i play something at e7 you play something at d5 then i have to play something in e6 to save my d6 stone if you want to save that okay yeah um but maybe it just makes more sense to play d6 and save myself i'm gonna play v6 um e6 so one thing about go that's fun you can sacrifice like stones kind of like we do it in chess but i feel like there's a little bit more nuance to it so sometimes like yeah i mean you could you could definitely i openings are way more complicated than go than chess believe it or not because there's so many permutations um okay so did we play like are there do openings have names and did we play like a a normal theory i dude i'm not good enough to tell you that but openings in go are called yeah i assume the branches are insane yeah they're they're pretty complicated again i feel attacked i don't know what you're trying to do um so look at this top territory like i've got you know these white stones starting to influence um and so that's one of the kind of consequences of the way that you played deciding to protect this e6 stone um there's a term used in go called like slow play i would say uh e6 is a little bit slow yeah maybe it wasn't necessary yeah exactly and there's bigger there's bigger territories to play for huh okay um by the way eric so the time control that we played oh i think oh i'm about to flag oh no you're you're not you're actually not about the flag really um there's basically 30 30 you have five 30 second delays oh interesting okay so that that's called view you mean it's actually a very cool time control i think they're just concept so when you say five thirty second delays like if you burn through one delay then you have four oh then you just have four for the rest of the game yeah ah oh so you could just not keep all of them yeah that doesn't exist in chess no it's it doesn't and i think it's a very cool aspect so i guess if there's like i guess that's intended for critical moments you want to maybe burn through a delay exactly exactly okay um interesting so i i panic moved i played d4 not knowing i was just again intuition i want to build another eye i guess yeah you gotta um i don't know if this is a good move but i'm gonna play it just for the walls i'm gonna play this and i need i really need to run to the restroom real quick so i will be right back feel free to my turn okay okay chad ten i'm gonna uh oh wait what seven why is it counting down okay i'm gonna do this um no idea if that was good it wasn't counting down before i guess i i'm still confused about this time control did i burn through all my delays also what does plus 5.5 maybe his rating definitely not the engine evaluation there's also 18k so many questions oh he's in he's in the forum i can't highlight his his pieces are in the form of the c that probably stands for crab there's a pause button on the right all right oh there's so many buttons there's zen mode there's zen oh so zen mode ooh i can focus now oh so i only have 30 seconds i click it okay oh zen mode is nice maybe i'll keep sun moon hmm it's a little bit smaller i don't want to make it too small okay okay so i panicked because it was like counting it was talking to me and i was saying ten nine eight and then i just play the move you still have your five beer yummies don't worry but why do you have so much more time than me because my main time we started off with 10 minutes of mean time and then we have the five like 30 second delays the five video meets ah okay yeah so now one thing that you're gonna run into here okay actually i'm i'm gonna play like just um i'm gonna play this um one thing so the the structure you have the shape you have here e3 d4 e5 and f4 is a flower and it's good for making eye shape but right now these stones aren't connected yet so you might want to consider trying to connect them okay ten nine eight so thank you for the follow uh i assume getting some follows from your stream left oh man this countdown gives me anxiety yeah man okay i don't understand why i would need to connect them if you're not moving in inside to capture a piece almost one half a year 10. i'm just gonna block you out again no idea if that was good but it's not a it's it's along the right way of thinking because you see this like right lower right hand corner territory this is basically all of yours i can't really do much about it yeah i was thinking like maybe the whole right side can be mine because i don't know i actually don't know if you can salvage yourself but you're dominating the whole left side yeah i'm also going for the sides if you don't um like that yeah interesting thank you for the follows guys i appreciate that yeah people should continually use the akash command oh which people are doing that's nice nine eight seven six five oh we actually i did not create the multi-stream command for this i should have probably done that i can make that real quick yeah i'm never sure what the best approach is get that feeling of deja vu yeah like if squad streaming is best or um or multi-stream or just share both the links okay also f9 i have no i like i i just felt threatened and this this goes against what i've like the strategy of keeping my my things together oh you just broke up or you froze am i in trouble okay my internet connection is unstable i feel like all of the the people on your stream are just like instantly following me now it's almost like a video five four three so the reason why i said you're in trouble yeah exactly i would have played g9 so you froze up but then i heard the word trouble oh i was saying that um your f9 stone was in trouble because i would have played g9 but now you'll soon realize playing at the edges is really treacherous um i should really turn off my alert box i'm gonna i'm gonna oh if you have sounds on for follows yeah that could be you can probably turn the sound off yeah so i want you to think while i'm trying to turn this off why do you why do i say that your stones are in trouble on the top i mean it's like putting a knight in the corner there's just less like it okay in this case there's less liberties right exactly so what can i play to give you only one liberty uh h9 or g8 yeah so i would play g8 yeah oh and then you're going to capture can you you can capture both because there it's kind of a group right yeah g8 and then this this group at the top is lost now so that's your first lesson the the edge of the board is treacherous if i just play h9 doesn't save me because you play h8 yeah you basically have opposition exactly 10 9 8 7 six five four three two one hey brian the rabbit rabbit i see your messages yeah i'm i'm on a little bit of a different setup than i usually am um right now which is why i'm a little slow to the chat but thank you always appreciate that okay i'm gonna just kamikaze the top and focus on the bottom that's a good idea i'm playing that too i want to connect the c3 stone to these other two stones fair enough i'm actually really bad at like counting territories so i don't know i also turned on zen mode which hi i think it maybe hides important information oh actually i don't know i don't use that oh yeah there were some numbers i didn't understand like it said something 8.5 or 5.5 i forget 10 9 8 seven six five that's a throwback reference um ben friend yeah cl thanks for posting that we're playing on ogs right now online go server okay so i think that doesn't work because uh i feel like i'm just gonna learn from this experience [Music] but now i can play oh i like i can't play a2 because then you capture me if i play a4 i don't want to place on the edge oh you're gonna capture me anyway ten oh that's so cruel eight seven yeah that's stone on b3's alone sad three and wants to be with his friends one two periods left i could play can i play a3 i'm going to try this i i doubt it works but i'm sensing danger that's good that's good that you're sensing danger your intuitions are you're developing that's also not good because i'm in danger that's true okay so maybe but i'm also not very good at this game so that gives me hope i could you could you could get me still ten oh so you're throwing eight four eight like capturing both pieces six five four yeah three because that group has one liberties it's all about counting liberty i'm down to my last period whatever that means it's your last um 30 second delay so if you run out of base you run out of time oh okay so basically it turns into a speed game so now it's panic mode okay [Music] nice okay so i'm forced to play a4 because if i don't then you play i capture yourself and now i can't really oh but i can place pieces inside oh but there's two i guess i can never capture you yeah that's basically this structures this group is alive now because i have one guaranteed i and uh nine a three or b three and then i can make an eyes six five four three two one you know the fun thing about go and the time control you can feel that one second and still be totally fine because you get your time back yeah i think that's what i just did yeah okay so do i want to play nicely or do i want to go in i'll just play this yeah the the problem with uh b6 is you're not gonna be able to find a way to live there yeah i was just trying to save my my b5 pawn or give it some company dude i also started calling stone's pawns when i when i said i call it pawn i was just in fact like reflexive okay so that h7 move right um i can play g5 but i'm not going to oh and capture me yeah but the reason i'm playing that is i'm kind of building off of this other structure that starts at g8 um and if you were to play at h8 then i would play it h9 and then that stone would be weak you say that one more time i played it um if i if you were to play at h8 to instead of h6 to disconnect i would play at h9 and i would capture those keystones at the top and then this h8 your black h8 stone would be weak right okay so a lot of it in in go it's called reading but it's basically calculation in chess um a lot of it's just calculating properly i'm gonna play this so now i'm scared like at some point you're gonna play g6 and capture me so i feel like i should play g6 myself 10. so on the like on below our names there there's like a score right there's like so it says you have two captures yeah i've captured two stones so that'll be part of the scoring process and after the game's over i'll try to explain the scoring um it's pretty straightforward once you kind of get used to it okay i sometimes get confused sometimes okay so i'm just gonna play this just take my territory and go home um that's funny a guy in the chat eric is very calm i think it's all the tea he drinks yeah i have a very big pot of green tea nice i also made myself some ingredients a solid yeah so you're going to see why these moves won't work which i don't know why but i assume there there's probably a reason yeah because like if you count the liberties right you're trying to attack this big group that i have right but your c8 stone only has two liberties it's c9 and d8 [Music] my c8 stone has yeah okay so i'm gonna play this because i need to attack it and then your c8 stone's just kind of like a stone and you're capturing me before yeah i wanted to capture you so if i play yeah well play this and you see now the c8 and c9 stones i don't even need to capture them they're they're just lost now oh so i can i even place a stone on d9 or no nine no eight because that would be uh suicide five four three two one so by the way the term for when a stone uh stone is played that gives another group only one liberty that's called atari it's kind of like jack from chat stone is play that gives another group one liberty okay so like when i played b9 right my c group yeah that's the one d nine okay yeah like this okay so we can never oh so i just used atari against view by playing g4 yeah yeah but you don't even need to capture that stone that stone's lost no pretty much uh-huh because your group has been more than two eyes now so you're you're you're sick right eric you are playing kind of tricky aren't you i just want to capture your three things i'm gonna try to keep them alive oh so if i place j9 you can place h9 even though you're putting a thing in my thing you're capturing my thing yeah because j9 doesn't capture my group right because i have not yet i have j5 still eight but i can do this and now i'm so if i don't let you if i don't do anything here you're gonna play j9 and kill that group right so i have i'm forced to play h9 now and then i get these three stones so i'm gonna play oh you capture oh i forgot you capture h92 or h8 yeah yeah uh oh that's so sad and you have the eye oh you have so many eyes yeah i have a lot of eyes okay i'll capture you back okay so i'm going to i don't think there is any useful moves left i feel like we're just you pass yeah you don't want to like satisfy yourself by filling your your first rank no because actually that would just be a um you would lose points for that really because like a stone a stone on a point that you already have 10 is a waste because territory wait so you get more points for using less stones yeah oh oh so you'll have to explain the scoring in more more detail then right so like look at your look at your lower right hand corner that is all of your territory so there's no reason to play g1 i should have passed um or maybe i could have fought for yeah i would say before i was like sorry yeah there there was uh that that move didn't really do anything but all this is your territory and i can't really do anything about it because you have eyes at um g5 e4 f3 so yeah i mean you have way more than two eyes so this stuff is all alive um so i'm gonna pass again so where where is the score first of all um the scores i think there are certain sites where you can see it but they don't show it to you right now and you just kind of have to judge yeah and what is that like how do you figure it out move the dead stones so this is the point in the game where the scoring occurs oh um so now you see on your screen do you see like a bunch of rec or squares yeah okay so so it's defining your territory exactly and so do you uh do you understand why the upper left-hand corner your black stones are mine yeah because they're in your territory and i can't save them yeah you can't you can't make a living group um if you were able to somehow create two eyes with those two groups then that would be your character but because you couldn't i was too close to the edge yeah so at this point you just press accept remove stones and then the game is over white wins oh so and so i won by 22.5 points um let's just talk about the scoring real quick yeah i see the computer graph yeah exactly um so i was better at one point when you played your uh was this g5 move yeah g5 was a bad move um but let's just talk about the scoring um so black makes the first move right that has somewhat of an advantage right um to make up for that there's this concept called comey which is a certain number of points that white is given to make up for that so if you see on my under my name there's like plus 5.5 i was showing that earlier now i just say i see 54.5 points okay so before it said plus 5.5 that's kind of what i'm given to make for my uh the fact that i didn't move first gotcha so you add 5.5 that's how i got 54.5 and i scored i had five captures so that's five more points so that's 10.5 and then now if i count my territory i have if you count the territory and you count also the stones in the territory um your c9 and c8 stones those points are two points each for me because it's a capture and it's territory that i have oh so you get point you get additional points for capture okay yeah so let's just count my territory i have j9 h82 g9 f94 e8 d9 uh six um c9 and c that's four points to [Music] a9 through a5 that's 15. b7 through b5 that's six so 21. um i'm just going to the the lower right hand left hand corner 22 23 24 25 26 27 i trust that it adds up i feel like this would be important information to know like during the game did that not add up i it's not adding up for me i don't know why um so we have to count okay so we count everything within your territory plus the captures that's it right yeah uh plus a extra 5.5 because that's the extra 5.5 down okay so how many oh it's nine by nine right i put the wrong type of scoring twenty that's fine i put chinese scoring oh oh it was different okay so it's a different system yeah it's a different system so normally in japanese scoring um it should add up there's like different ways of playing this game um there's chinese scoring japanese i think there's like canadian i don't remember the other ones but the most common one that you'll play with is japanese and essentially the rules that i described that's how you would play it okay so are you ready to go again i think so but okay so are we gonna play with the japanese like the the normal scoring that you just explained yeah like you can send me a challenge yeah okay and then so when you so when you play are you you're not keeping track of score you're just kind of sensing if you're controlling more territory yeah it's probably not the right thing to do okay but that's kind of how i assume like very strong players will always have a sense of the exact score yeah they will like the uh the best player as well um i'm gonna make the main time 15 minutes a little bit longer just because i think it's just about getting that intuition yeah this looks good challenge received challenge received game started okay i think i accepted oh thank you you're great for the subscription i appreciate that oh yeah shout out to brayden too hello streamer okay so i'm gonna investigate 5.5 yeah really novelty yeah it's it's a garbage move but yeah that's good i just want to see how you play you're showing me mercy i don't think i'm good enough to really show mercy mm-hmm oh you're just going to be like normal level okay i mean not really but yeah i feel like the center is important if you want to control like be most multi-purpose i don't know though in 9x9 the center is a little bit more important because you know it can build the framework for uh covering the corners and the sides does it go smaller than 9x9 i don't think so we can try well so there's nine by nine then there's 13 by 13 and the most common one is 19 by 19. um those games yeah that's the main that's the main one so nine man is kind of like a little bit easier so we're we're all social distancing our pieces i don't know this is like a strategy yeah attacking and go is a little bit different from in chess i think in chess it's a little bit more confrontational and go you only want to attack it's like passive aggressive yeah maybe that's an artifact of i don't know the history of the game okay play here okay so a lot of the tasks behind uh making living shades is just being able to create those eyes so yeah i think f6 is a very good move thank you always play f6 new e-mode idea i i have an f6 bam emote in contrast to feingold's never play f6 emote i don't mind playing outside that's always a good move okay so i plenty oh so much time that's nice yeah okay so i feel like you're being confrontational i don't know if you want to play f7 or you're just trying to still do your own thing so usually a good rule of thumb is to connect your stones so i think f7 is a worthy move to consider yeah i feel like it's just the safest like don't don't mess with my territory i'm gonna play this oh wow but it's another emo worthy move yeah okay so i'm looking for ways to make an eye i'm gonna play let's do this so one thing i want you to kind of think about as you're trying to make eye shape here is how to make sure your stones are connected while you're making eye shapes so like you're probably thinking of d6 right exactly yeah yeah um and i think d6 is a good move but you just have to find a way to just make sure your d4 stone remains connected to the rest of your stones gotcha they should be but you're not threatening so like i i can always it has all four liberties right now so yeah if you ever make a threat i can i can probably defend yeah so what i'm gonna do is okay i'm just gonna play this one room okay and then i'm gonna try to i'm gonna create some eye shape just to show you how to how to make it interesting okay play try this nice okay capping me yep limiting the movement of this group i like it i like that okay so i'm gonna play this so i feel like your your corner move it just gave me it's as if i'm playing i i have the first move and i have extra points yeah right um the concept of like tempo and tempe in chests and go it's called scenting so kind of having the initiative um so yeah a9 is a horrendous move conflicted where to go i think i'll go c4 explosive wow because i just i wanted to connect them so i've basically absorbed two things make make the eye shape so i basically have two eye shapes and then when i have the eyes or at least so many on the diagonal i want them connected so they're not in danger yeah those are two very big learnings you're you're gonna make it far in this game [Music] they'll be better than these i don't know anything beyond that that's basically all i know too okay i'm kidding sort of not really so i feel like i want to place something at h8 but then it starts becoming complicated because then we're kind of it can come down to tempe i don't know what's happening there i think it's it's fine um the problem is like if you don't play it i'll play h8 and i'll start to kind of creep in to your territory but yeah you have to be able to calculate it yeah i can imagine this is where calculation comes into play yeah that's why i wanted to increase the time to make it a little bit easier for me to try to calculate for sure um yeah i'm realizing like your your four in a row wall is actually quite annoying because then i can't can't easily infiltrate yeah that's called i i think i mentioned this in the first game that's called thickness and um basically because i have all this thickness with this connect four group i can't really break it yeah it's very difficult to break like i have one two three four five six seven eight liberties so i can kind of safely assume that it'll be live it'll stay alive and then the territory around it should be mined unless you're able to invade i'm going to play h8 i feel like this is prophylaxis but it's also going to get complicated oh yeah i think it can get complicated quickly [Music] assuming i don't just tragically blunder okay so don't tell me if i'm i'm wrong but i'm just going to think out loud i'm calculating h6 and then you take away my spot i probably just end up losing a piece that's probably no good but maybe huh wondering if i can just i try the gym just opened recently let's try this okay so you were talking about age six right um let me give you just a quick tip on when you're calculating that um so pretend j8 is not there right okay when you're playing h6 you're trying to attack my group at um h7 and jj7 right the thing about that is when you play your stone at h6 you have two liberties of j6 and h5 yeah and then you you just get the move and you start taking away exactly because my group also has two liberties but since i get the first move there i'm able to deal with this when the round before it's a problem but now if you were to play h6 but if i were to pass you could play h6 and then this uh i'm threatening uh oh interesting yeah because i'm threatening i'm basically threatening to play h6 and then if you play j6 i play j5 exactly and capture your three okay exactly you're learning yeah so you prevent that yeah no wow so it's gonna be impossible to capture you because you're so thick i'm very thick this is a thick voice club so i feel like this is just uh we're just kind of now doing our own thing um maybe i can thicken myself i feel like knowing the score here would be nice well you know a9 is like two points for you pretty much that's true it's good to know okay um [Music] i feel like um i'm starting to understand some like that that calculation but in terms of just general positional play uh might just resort to making eyes so what is like what is territory that we're still contesting oh that's actually that's a good question that's probably a very relevant question yeah because the whole bottom is seems like yours but maybe like the center between f4 e4 f5 but i don't want to get captured remember what i was saying about connected stones oh yeah yeah it's hard to capture yeah connected stones yeah so if you were to play it like f4 right yeah i'm actually considering f4 because then if i get f4 f no oh i always if i play f4 i can always connect via f5 or e4 so it's never in danger okay so let's do that yeah yeah and that's it that actually reduces the uh that reduces my territory a little bit so okay i'm gonna play this and so okay so now you're threatening to play f5 and basically just win my piece yep close the door i'm debating between f3 or f5 myself intuition's telling me to play f5 because f3 you play f5 and then i'm stuck with two which are quickly running out of space so i'm going to do f5 awesome yeah so one rule of thumb and go is if it's your opponent's turn and they were to make a move often times that's a good place for you to put your stone uh interesting okay it's a very useful rule yeah that rule doesn't exist really in chess no it doesn't at all but okay the concept of like prophylaxis and chess maybe it's a bit more complicated because you identify what your opponent wants to do but then that doesn't involve you actually playing that same move usually not because something's going to get captured yeah okay so i'm going to play f3 okay so now you're extra thick but so am i yeah okay so i'm gonna ask myself the same question what territory are we contesting for i'm looking at b3 but that feels risky because then you what what is what is it called atari tamaki atari atari atari okay well yeah if i play b3 you play a3 and you atari me and then i probably lose i run out of space um if you play b3 i'm gonna play b2 instead because remember i want to drive you to the edge of the board where you have less liberties fair enough it's like anybody in my chat if if there's any points that you think i should try to explain to eric let me know again i'm not that great at going either but i'll try to be as helpful as i can okay cool a7 i assume the main focus is like the the left upper upper left quadrant yeah yeah and like the sides um i don't know what the best move is here i'm gonna play this which looks kind of weird okay now i'll connect i feel like you're controlling a little bit more territory but i'm gonna capture your piece i have the extra five i feel like it's just gonna come down to score yeah so do you see any useful moves for you here well i want to capture your piece right or no i don't you don't want to capture my piece because it's already yours wait so how so how does the scoring work i guess we didn't address like if more pieces are on the board so with this a9 stone it's not alive because i don't have two eyes here yet right and because all this territory on the top is yours this stone on e9 is considered um it's considered to be dead yeah okay um now if i were to get like let's say i were to get a bunch of moves in a row and i was able to play something ridiculous like a8 through e8 and then e9 and c9 i would actually have a strong a8 through e8 oh okay so those five points combined with c9 and then you have two eyes and i can't i can't do anything yeah do you know where the eyes are in that in that hypothetical structure uh b9 and d9 exactly so in that country yeah yeah that would be a living that would be a living shape but in reality like i can't i don't have enough time to make those moves but yeah i'm always going to capture you yeah yeah yeah so i feel like so let's say i just play something randomly on j9 rather than passing how would that affect my score do i just not like is it just an empty these empty intersections or empty points that i get scored for or do i get score for the the pawns that i placed down from the pawns in place yeah um the uh it's the it's the empty territory so okay got it okay so right now i'm i'm counting yeah so i would have 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 and then uh i have 21 but i also have your 89 so i have 22 if i'm counting that correctly i thought you had 23 but let me just double check okay well it's actually really close 17 24 i count 23 but i might be wrong one two three four five six plus 9 is 15 plus 7 i'm counting 22 still i don't know maybe i just can't count 1 two three four five it doesn't really matter because it's going to count for us but then you have yeah i get lazy sometimes yeah so your first two ranks are 18 22 okay so that's 20 one two three four five six seven you have 27. oh i just made a realization so the 5.5 actually really matters because there's no draw like the 0.5 of the 5.5 um allows or makes it so there's no draws ever right yeah and yeah so i if i'm counting correctly i'm winning by half a point if i just pass me pass i um i i just made that realization too i forgot about the comey and wait what's kill me it's the 5.5 oh 5.5 it's kiyomi or comey call me comey okay all right i think it's moved did i 27.00 that was white yeah hey i won let's go i feel so accomplished i it is i think it is 23 right because um top row is nine next row is seven so 16 17 18 19 20 wait this oh yeah 20 21 22 and then my one stone one two three four five six so i uh so not including rows eight and nine there's six right yeah then six plus row nine that's 9 right so 6 plus 9 is 15. and then plus 7 is 22 but then you get one point extra for the black for the capture oh i just included that as an empty okay so got it okay and that's why you don't that's why you don't need to surround this stone right because you would get one point per capture um and that would be that you'd be subtracting two points because those are two points of space that you're modifying okay i i think this is beginning to make sense um yeah like i had counted because i didn't count the capture i uh i assumed it was going to be 27 to 27.5 so this is slightly less dramatic yeah congratulations on winning your first game thank you

Channel: Eric Rosen

Views: 133,956

Rating: 4.8955069 out of 5

Keywords: chess, imrosen, Eric Rosen, Blunder, Chess Strategy, Chess Stream, IM Rosen, IM Eric Rosen, Eric Rosen Chess, Best YouTube Chess Channel, Best Chess Channel, Speed Chess, chess game, chess video, lichess.org, chess 2020, go tutorial, go strategy, beginner go, go guide, online go, Aakaash, Chess Masters, Chess Master learns Go, 9x9 go, tengen, atari, go basics, komi, go jargon, go lesson, go 2020, japenese go, alpha go, youtube go, how to play go, go twitch, go coaching

Id: y_5WflZYB68

Length: 68min 18sec (4098 seconds)

Published: Mon Aug 03 2020

Reddit Comments

[u/CLSmith15]

There is a decent amount of crossover on Twitch between the chess community and the Go community right now. Aakaash is also a chess NM who started streaming Go about two months ago. Clossius in particular has organized several crossover streams where he teaches chess streamers Go, and they teach him chess. Eric Rosen is by far the biggest chess name I've seen playing Go so far though, I'm very hopeful the trend will continue and that Go will grow on Twitch like chess has in recent months.

[u/fire_emblem_chess]

I am a total beginner at Go as well. I watched a few intro videos on YouTube, went to play some games online and lost badly. I will eventual resume studying so I can improve my Go skills along with chess.

[u/m2u2]

ShutUp&SitDown's review and now this. Good times for Go.

[u/wander_colossi]

For some reason watching games between beginners is incredibly exciting. You never know when one side will make a crazy move and psyche out their opponent.

[u/Dmeff]

Isn't Aakash a beginner? I feel beginners shouldn't teach, unless there's no other choice

[u/torax_]

I would love to see someone like dwyrin playing with them!

[u/CubesAndPi]

I think a go/chess crossover would be amazing. I'm picturing a tournament where go players face off in chess with commentary from chess players, then the reverse.

[u/100PercentHaram]

As someone who few people can beat in both chess and go, this is cool. A bit strange to see such amazingly strong chess players as total go noobs, though.

[u/RougeCrown]

Dwyrin should play with Hikaru. Perhaps they can teach each other chess / go and then play some matches together.