Live with Rob Cosman Episode 25: LIVE QUESTION & ANSWER

probably the most common question I get asked is what kind of wax to use in the bottom of your playing and the reason we do this is to lubricate the sole so that your effort is spent pushing the blade through the wood instead of pushing the plane over the wood well we contacted someone who actually produces it we had our own formula made in fact they even put it in a nice little container has our purple heart logo on it and like a glue stick as you wear it down you just simply create roll the bottom and get some more wax a little squiggle along there is all it takes and makes your planing so much easier you try it you'll see what I mean get one for your tool tray and one for your shop apron No [Laughter] right you you [Laughter] you second just a second it's gonna okay I think just a second all right we're back I'm gonna we don't we'll wait a second sounds better good good all right that's good enough yeah sorry everybody it usually is my fault yes [Music] no check check check check here we go yeah so we've up yeah sorry everything's good yeah nickel issues not everything can be made out of wood they're saying I did it on purpose so yeah Frick did it on purpose exactly meg is not here to tell us we need to quit early so we have a special guest one of our combat wounded vets that was in our class before his coming he's going to be on and introduce the program from his perspective so that you know what you're supporting also want to make note that this today financed it for me again Jake today's Anzac this is in Canada we have we have Remembrance Day in the United States they have both Memorial Day and I can't remember what the other one is but if Veterans Day right so this is the day that they honor their war dead both Australia and New Zealand so I thought well you know what we've got an Aussie up here his name is ash and hopefully either he or someone else from asturias gonna be on later to explain it we bring combat wounded veterans in six times a year we treat them to a six day very intense hand to a workshop we started 8:00 in the morning we run until 11:00 p.m. we eat our meals right here yours truly Frick does the barbecue and my wife and Jake's wife take care of the food great food but it's a lot of work it's a ton of work and during that course of that week you learn to sharpen freehand you learn to cut dovetails mortise and tenon half blind dovetails you learn to process lumber from rough to ready with just hand planes now yeah it costs a lot of money we bring these guys in we cover their airfare their hotel their meals we send each VAT home with approximately thirty three thirty to thirty three hundred dollars worth of tools we have started what's called the bench brigade and we have we have Jack Lane down in Texas spearheading this and he is absolutely thrilled what we've done is we've put together we've put out a call to have anybody who's interested in helping if you would like to be able to give back to these people who have given so much you can be part of our bench brigade and what you do is you take it upon yourself to build one of our benches to our spec and then you get it and then you take care of getting it to a vet in your area that has been to one of our programs or is going to be this coming summer and that way they have a bench and all their tools and I in the near future I'm gonna have Jack come on he doesn't know this he's hearing it for the first time and tell you just the kind of response that he's getting from the vets that we've already connected with so if you would like to participate you are welcome to spew we're welcome to join us in join him with us and sponsor you can make a donation on our page Frick will put the link up and that money goes directly to one of those costs that I just mentioned none of us take a salary out of this and you can also buy or one of our t-shirts or Purpleheart t-shirts the response to that has been phenomenal this one happens to be wood doing good we have wood is good and we've got a brand new one coming and that helps spread the word the hardest thing we have to do is to find the people who actually need our help they tend not to be outside waving their arms getting looking for attention they're held up at they're in their homes so the only way we find them is through personal contact more people that know better chance we're gonna find them so we as a thank you to you yes Rex Gary's always here oh yeah so oh yeah I'm sorry Rex doesn't have a microphone so Gary Burnett one of our comment window that's scary welcome and he's always here great if you're a combat wounded vet from our previous class and you're on the night please say something so we can acknowledge and give you a shout out I want it I want to show you tonight's draw we got something special so Michael good friend of ours has been a big supporter of our program like we we try to send a little bottle of Canadian maple syrup tapped right here in New Brunswick with every order that comes in a box if it's in a padded envelope it's too risky so if you've been in one of the recipients of this you know how good it is Michael said he hated maple syrup but he tried this drank the whole bottle so just because of him we now we have the local supplier makes make the really dark stuff that we Jake and I and our family loved so much so we now we just got the shipment in yesterday we now have bottles that are 250 250 ml and 500 million sorry this is 100 yeah that's right hundred mil and five hundred so tonight's draw are for these everybody and we're also going to give away a half-blind kit which includes the Cerf x10 and the half blind the IBC half-blind dovetail chisel and check this out a resin impregnated purple infused maple mallet won't you some lucky persons gonna get that now we made some changes in the shop Luther's been helping us and can you see if you can get Luther on the phone on FaceTime I'd like to him to give everybody the update live and in person on his sister I just come over here I want to show you we have a we have a I want I want to tell you a little something sometimes there's little tiny things in your life that you don't take time to take care of them and they create just a little needling every time you go near them and we got a couple anyway we have this guy named Wilfred he's a retired fabricator and just always looking for something to do so we come in here and we we have a he useful things any now he's too busy we have a list over there and we have all these things that he does I want to say we I want to show you what he did for us most recently so this is our edge sander we use this in the production of our saws we use this in a whole lot of things and in order to change the belt you had to crank this small crank in in order to take the tension off and Ken and I both hated doing it because it was such a pain so I said to Wilfred that is can you fix that so look what he did he added a handle on there so now when you have to adjust the tension it's a piece of cake you don't know how much we enjoy that the other thing was this to close the yet take that you had to lift this lid up you had to lift this lid up in order to change your belt and it had a screw in here you'd have to screw that down and every time you take it off you drop it on the floor well Wilford put a latch on there for us today so now it's a two-second procedure so two irritants no longer exist in my life anything else we need to talk about and get right into them let's get started we at some point in the middle will introduce the purple our project what okay well actually is Luther on did you get him I don't have face time you don't I don't have an iPhone well here take this one get him on and then hook it up if you would please I know because people want to know so just a quick tour around here we tried to do it we didn't them our volume so we've gotten rid of a lot of machines we've opened up a lot of the space to try to get this to flow better just when we moved in here we had to maintain our shop continue to produce product while we were renovating this this was a bowling alley if you'll remember that's why the arrows on the floor that's not to tell Ken how to get to his bench and as a result I what I thought was gonna take us three months took us almost a year so we just got the stuff in here we got it hooked up and then you start using it you realize how this really doesn't work the layout isn't what we want so Luther's been helping us trying to get our layout better so we took that bandsaw we had that big gray we got it I got a beautiful bandsaw if anybody's interested it's that 20 inch Delta we went through and he renovated the whole thing and it works great I would have kept it except I'm a general fan at heart and I ended up getting a general 20 it's just three or four months ago and they don't need two 20 inch he's here err I'm ready okay I'm gonna I'm gonna put a halt to this for just a second I'm a lot of you were have asked me numerous times about loser's sister Alice came down with the coronavirus and she was intubated she was on she was in a bad shape in fact he text me one night he said the doctor said she's crashed and they don't expect her to live the night but there is great news and I'm on I want to put a face to the name and I'm gonna have Luther tell you exactly what's going on and update you on Alice Lou Thea there he's coming loser turn your turn your stream off you didn't have to get yourself all prettied up for this knock yourself out speak yeah she came down with cough to the hospital testing front of ours she has some underlying conditions and the doctors called and told us hey it's you know chances of her surviving tonight are super slim and it was it went really really fast well she and I put her on it she did survive and I put her on a ventilator they had to put her on her feeding tube she was completely unresponsive and she was that way for about about a week slowly she got more responsive a couple of days ago they took out the feeding tube and the ventilator and two days ago or three now is the third day she left left the ICU for rehab I got a video of her going out down the hall and all the nurses and everybody clapping because one of the nurses told me you know she's our she's our story because she was the worst that they had had that they were able to keep alive and and recover so fine I know a lot of people out there were praying I really appreciate that and you see the power of prayer and the power of folk so just thanks for everybody and she continues to cover she's not out of the woods yet but she's in a much much better place thank you way to go and if she ever watches this we're all pulling for you Ellis okay where was I yeah go back yeah okay so we're gonna show them down here oh oh yeah so anyway so we we took our big we had a we had a 12 inch jointer we took that out sold that and we now have our 16 inch join that we moved into place which I nicknamed an aircraft carrier because if you were to look at it from that end you'd see what I mean you literally could land a plane on that it is so big great to have its wired up what are we waiting on no I thought it was worried up the only thing we notice is that the guard is not the original guard I didn't realize that they would never leave you with four inches of unprotected blade so we'll get wilfred our magic man to come in here and modify this and we'll probably do a live episode one night when we actually set the knives I can't wait to do that favorite thing we're thinking to leave this straight knife on there so you'll notice that almost all of our machinery is green it's all general far as the eye can see except look at this bad boy so this is a probably 1970s vintage Rockwell eight inch jointer we went in and modified it with the bird the original bird segmented head which makes a jointer a beautiful thing and what we put on for a motor horse and 3/4 motor single-phase magnetic switch whole bit all done up works beautifully but it's the wrong color we found an 8 inch general that we're gonna do the same thing to so if anybody's looking for a great deal on a jointer contact us it's looking for a home all right now can we go we're a little bit behind when are we gonna do how many I do people do we have on 542 okay when are we bring you who are we bringing in ash if not ash Paul but do we know that yet well when you have them ready you let me know let's do the first question and hardly wait all right so just so it so everybody knows we've had over a hundred questions so we're not gonna be able to get to all you know we're gonna fit all night no but we have plenty of ammo for the next day so tell them name and where they're from all right so the first question and we're doing this in chronological order in the order that we should receive them Doug from Utah I thought says can you demonstrate jointing the long edge of a board too long for your shooting board maybe something three to four feet long I've seen demonstrations with purposely curved plane blade and a jointer plane or a jointer plane with the fence but do you do anything different with your relatively straight blades well is there a difference I'll do the first one so if you're trying to joint I mean you can you can joint like this hold your board in the vise and join it now the only problem with doing this is you're having to balance it so that you're keeping the board square to the face at the same time you're trying to straighten the edge what I do often times is this I will take another piece of wood I'm just gonna buzz this in half real quick so needs to be dimensionally stable meaning accurately milled get my bench dog in here get the spacing just right I'm gonna put this piece underneath down here I'll put this piece up here now the boards are there to keep the boards are there to keep the piece I'm working on elevated slightly and then I can use my my bench as a shooting board the plane is square it has to be I can't do it down on the bench because you'll end up running into this area where there is no blade so it's elevated and I can go in keep that piece out of the way and I can plane that edge using the sole the plane to keep the board straight and using the setup I have here to keep it square that's the best way I know to joint accurately joint a long board too long for your shooting board with the other caught and as far as the blade edge there are those who cambered the blades that means that when they and David and I disagree on this David Charles worth it he's a fan of cambering the blade so if I can pull out a blade not sure yeah what they would do is they would take their plane blade or he would take his plane blade and he would put a slight radius on it so instead of it being straight shortest distance between two points he has a slight radius I don't do that I much prefer the method that Ellen Ian Kirby originally taught and that was that the blade is straight from side to side but you simply feather with a little bit of finger pressure on your 16 thousand grit stone so that you just feather off that outside corner in that outside corner and the other day we were filming and it's on YouTube so if I think it was the last it wasn't the last one we did where we put those two shavings it was a perfect example I'm looking to see if they're on the floor but we were having - playing a piece of Holly you know it's not it and the shavings we had to see we had to do it in two passes because it was too wide for one pass and when you looked at the shaving it was perfectly square straight edge on one side and just feathered off - nothing on this side and then the other piece was the exact opposite perfect straight edge out here feathered off to nothing on the inside and those two feathered off to nothings overlap each other so when you're done there is no demarcation comes out beautiful and that takes a little bit of a knack to getting to getting right but it's not difficult in fact I'm gonna demonstrate it for you I'm using two stones my 16,000 on my right and my world Jake's 500 on my left now Jake's a fan of the shopton lapping plate because he didn't have to pay for it I did and I travel with and often use the trend it's far less expensive not quite as good but adequate that's a long story that I hate having to tell because it makes me sound like an idiot when they do so if I was sharpening my blade in order to produce this edge I'm telling you guys about I would come in here referencing off of my can you see me referencing off of the primary bevel set that down on the coarse stone with there a thousand or 500 once you're there with five fingers distributing the pressure evenly elevate two or three degrees and do these little circles tight little circles and you'll notice that my blade is on an angle it's not like this if you do it like this you're going to be going off the blade so I'm holding it on a bit of an angle tight little circles now somebody asked about the pressure this is about an I'm pushing down how about hard enough to just start to squeeze a firm grape if you were here and which I do with my when I'm teaching I'll have people lay their hand on there and I'll just press down my fingers in the back of their hand so they can get a good feel for how hard I push so 10 seconds of this count out ten seconds if you need to most people go way too long as soon as you can detect a slight burr on the backside you come over here to the 16 you do the same thing except come up just a little bit higher when I say a little bit if I was up three degrees here I'm gonna come up five degrees here there abouts ten seconds on this one now at the end of ten seconds without changing anything else I'm simply gonna push a little bit harder with this right index finger and I would go one two three and then I would switch and I would push a little bit harder with this left pinky and I would go one two three the last thing I do is take my steel rule set it on the edge of the stone important that it always be in the same spot lay the blade down on its back working within a quarter of an inch of the opposite edge spend 1/2 now I've got three fingers distributing the pressure three seconds have worked like that to eliminate any burr on the backside and you're good to go now you go you put it in your blade plane you try it if it doesn't work if you can't get rid of that hard sharp edge on one side well you didn't get it right you go back and try it again but I'm quite impressed and amazed at how excuse me in our classes people pick up on that quickly good question next all right second all right so next one comes from de la de lavor sing from Waterloo Ontario Canadian I saw a brief clip of David Charles were talking about fitting drawers such as such that they tightened two thirds of the way out to provide a warning that the drawer is almost at its end do you have any thoughts on this and have you ever tried something like that no I I've heard about it I I so again David and I are good friends but we tend to be at odds at a lot of things but you know what we can disagree and still like each other what a novel idea take that to heart if it applies I like Alan Peters method the drawer fits as perfectly as possible with no side-to-side slop now what I do instead of that is I put a stop on there so Jake can you get over here and see up underneath I'm gonna I'm gonna move I'm gonna push this out so if you come down here and look up underneath you'll see a piece of wood it's got a larger diameter hole with a special screw that has a large washer on the head it's sloped on the front so it's it's snug enough that it's not too loose but it freely moves up and down so when we put the drawer in there the bevel allows it to rise up the drawer goes in and then it comes falls back down and it prevents it from falling out that's that method this one over here now actually what do I have an example here Jake I don't think we do I got one right here I think give me a second I'll grab it actually you know what I can't it's too big to carry in here but my other method that I'm going to do here is to have a you can you see I'm gonna cut around well I'm a hole right here 1/2 and probably 3/4 of inch in diameter through the divider I'm gonna take a piece of 3/4 inch dowel doesn't have to be very long and I'm gonna put a washer on the top of it so the washer is going to be there for two reasons number one it's going to provide a little bit of weight to keep this thing from riding up number two it's going to keep it from falling out so I've got a piece of I think I have a piece of 3/4 yes I do so if you can imagine a hole right here with a piece of dowel floating freely a washer on the top to give it some weight not a bent washer like that so when you open your drawer the washer hits the back and prevents it from coming all the way out in order to get it out you just have to go in there with your finger lift it up pull your drawer out no where you go Bob's your uncle Orin bookcase bricks case it's his father all right did we satisfy that one yeah there was a quick question from the chat in here about the last one if you push too hard when you're planing can you ruin the oh oh yeah that was that was something that was a question you pushed you hurt yeah so that's why I threw that part in I'm switching topics but only to explain the point when I teach dovetails which we do a lot the number one cause of problems with accuracy at first is they squeeze a life out of that handle now I know it's beautiful and you want to hold it tight but forbear nice light touch what's really going on is this you need to have a lot of control up in through here in these muscles so that you can push that forward that saw forward on a nice straight line until you develop that discipline up in here folks subconsciously I think compensate by squeezing the life out of this thing out here and it doesn't allow the saw to do what it'll do the saw will cut laser straight with all you all you gonna do is just push it if you're squeezing it so tight it's constantly trying to self-correct and you get somewhat of a wiggly less than straight line all right what's that got to do with this no same thing you have to develop some muscle training not strength but control up in through your arms so that you can go do their you can lean over that stone you can move just pivoting from the shoulder Jacob here pivoting from the shoulder okay so that you can maintain those angles well what you lock up in here when you first start you overcompensate by squeezing the life out of that so you had to want a nice relaxed grip the best example is this everybody has shaken hands with someone who tried to be macho man and squeeze your hand everybody's also shaking hands with the the fish you want a nice the type of handshake that you that you would offer if you were meeting if you're a male and you're being introduced to a female you're not gonna squeeze your hand you're just gonna give a nice comfortable shake think about that when you're holding that blade you want blood to be able to make it into your fingers you also want to be able to feel what's going on you'll actually learn to feel through your fingers but you can't do that if you're squeezing so tight that there's no blood making it there and can you ruin your stone because that's what they're afraid of is that you're squeezing so tight you go to push down in the corner and you dig into your stone we know you're not gonna ruin it and if I did if I did dig my stone in and the higher grits tend to be softer don't worry about getting rid of it you can just avoid that area if it's that bad and let it naturally wear away as you continue to use the rest of the stone and constantly flattening in between it'll eventually go away so don't worry about it but just remember relax relax relax nice comfortable grip I spend my whole morning that first day when we're teaching dovetails relax relax relax you're looking all these white knuckles by lunchtime everybody's got red knuckles and things start to work it's magical next all right David Brown from Fort Worth Texas hey David oh and the last guy from Ontario I couldn't pronounce his name mouths word you said that's why I didn't say I don't know so David wants to know if a higher angle grind on a plane blade produces a cleaner cut in figured wood while adding a bit more resistance wood grinding a higher angle on a micro bevel on a powered planer slash jointer produce a nicer finish on figured wood to help prevent tear-out I know the benefits of shower blades and also carbide cutter heads just curious to hear your thoughts yeah that's a that is an interesting question if you look at this I thought that was actually I thought that was why these Chiclets do a better job and I was mistaken I thought when I did did you figure the geometry in this that it was actually attacking the wood at a higher angle but when I actually figured it out and did some no you don't want me doing math when I actually figured it out it was the same angle so I don't know it would only stand the reason that it would but it is a hard push some people say a little harder no it's not a little harder it's a lot harder when you're planing with this and the high angle blade is in there it is a much your push would you say double or maybe triple well can they here Jake yeah they could he's lying anyway but they here okay now you should point out you leave the high angle blade in your number six why are lots of planes yeah cuz it's got some extra it's got some extra weight but it is a much much harder push someone asked me the other day why not just use it all the time it works much better because the what you get what you have to expend in order to get that benefit is not worth it to have it there if you don't need it it is a much harder push so if you want to try it on your power on your Blaine blades I'd love to hear I'd love to hear what happens now hold on a second Rex is good are you gonna donate tonight I'll tie how often are you going to donate Anika to the Purple Heart Project and if you do tonight I'll call you and personally answer that question next alright next one comes from Fred from all the way in Devon England Fred oh sorry nope Devon I had it's Adam from Devon UK do you have a good hand tool method for cutting a stopped groove for example the groove for the bottom panel in a small dovetail Corner box other than routing the groove plugging the ends of a fully ploughed groove and using half blind dovetails instead yeah that is a that is a tough one and I actually been reading through the questions that was asked multiple times so I thought well you know what we really need to address that so let's let's try it because I had an idea I'll tell you some of the things that I have done in the past that didn't necessarily work out extremely well I'm just gonna I've got a piece of pine here and I'm going to trim that edge because low and behold there's grooves in there that we were using when we're testing our draw bottom playing so what Devon is no I mean he's from Devon tummies named Frick Adam Adam I get a couple of examples here that will show this better Jake yeah I do I got one right here boxes galore what is in here Oh full of money wait a tongue that's where I left it yeah what ok so here's an example we had to this is this was done by hand so we had to cut in order to in order to put this bottom in we had to cut a groove so being a half blind we were able to arrange it so that the groove it's a bad dovetail the groove on this piece was sitting in between this half pin and this half pin so you just plywood right on through no problem and because it's a half-blind that groove when we were doing the tail board we were able to plow right through because you can't see the end of it so it wasn't an issue however in this one again we were able to do it on the on the pin board because we've just simply placed it between the pins but how do you prevent it from coming out through here on the tail board and that was tough I'll show you what I did I won't recommend it so I went in like this I set my marking gauge now when I've got my marking gauge set like this the cutter that's uh let's put a mark on here and where we need to stop twisted piece of wood so let's say we need to stop here so I made my groove nice and deep as deep as we could get it and you'll see why now if you wanted to you could switch I'm always looking for selling opportunities but it interpreted as this problem solving for you we offer multiple different cutters you see how much larger diameter that one is so in this case I could come in switch cutters excuse me just one second guys do you want to be introduced are you gonna be okay yep very so I can come in with this much larger diameter cutter and I can get that groove really deep what I'm doing is I'm establishing a nice clean wall on one side of the groove now this was the hard part in order to get the other side of the groove I had to come in here if I do it with this marking gauge as its set up it's going to produce the bevel on the wrong side and I don't want that you know if it's my lucky night I'll actually find the proper allen key to change this really tighten that okay so what I'm gonna do is take this turn it around so now the bevels on the outside and if you've ever done this you're instantly going to be fighting it the whole time because the bevel causes that to want to go in that direction this see where the bevel is when you drag that through the wood the Belleville causes that the cutter to want to go that way pulling the head of the tool tight to the edge that's how you're able to always get it and right turn it around now the bevel is gonna want to make it come this way and be constantly pulling away so you have to be extremely careful I'm literally trying this idea live I've tie I've tried it freehand and it was extremely difficult to do because a lot of times what we would be doing is literally cutting it with a chisel okay so what I want to do is I want to take my my quarter inch rotor playing cutter I'm gonna put my headgear on you older guys like me get yourselves a pair of these optivisor I couldn't do half of what I do without them so I'm going to set this on here and see if I can't line this up so that it perfectly matches where that cutter would be other words exactly that looks like I got it right there you lock that down now I have to be extremely careful because as I mentioned this is gonna want to constantly be pulling in fact I think what I'll do is put it in the vise so that I can push nice and hard I haven't heard any other vets names Rex is making a list for me and then we're gonna kind of read a few at a time instead of just shouting them out randomly right I'm pushing really hard against this to keep that thing from doing as I told you if you allow it it'll veer off and then you're cutting down into the part of your board that you're going to keep I'm making several passes to gradually take it deeper now when we were doing these and everybody in the class was doing it there was so much work to doing this that by the time they were done the thing was beat to snot it looked like it's a turd on the middle of a freeway for an afternoon so you have to be really careful so far so good I'm gonna try turning this one around and see if I can get as good of results it's just gonna make that even deeper give me a nice clean-cut ball but then we got to clean out the material in between how are our donations tonight Frick I don't I'm not keeping track of that sir what are you doing I'm monitoring the live feed and asking the questions remember how hard these guys and what these guys put in just so you know we've shattered our record of viewers yeah what are we at 761 that's shattering we've barely made it over seven I think 725 is the previous that's shattering to me that's great so let's make this a record night for donations I'm gonna stop right there for a second I want to introduce you to my backboard and and I we had somebody recently Yap at me because I talked about the Purple Heart project too much on our YouTube videos tough and they left this is why we do it oh I think they did so I want to induce you to two guys you already met the colonel and right beside him is super Dave Benson Dave is a combat wounded vet 17 years he's just stunning now I know I Michelle married him I think Dave 17 17 years half it in the Navy half it in the army Dave was the unfortunate recipient of some RPG shrapnel in the side of his head which to this day the other day he had a migraine he said it was so bad What did he say daddy was gonna die two days it was the two days in bed yeah I second they might have been just the second one was just the said there dave tells an interesting story that when he when he was medically discharged and he'd always enjoyed woodworking and his father his father her grandfather had left him an old craftsman saw but there was something about it that as soon as he turned it on the frequency of that sawed just gave him a debilitating migraine and he could not use it and he was really bummed I'll tell you that's the story so he somehow migrated into hand-tools so we went out and he bought this old cobalt not old a cobalt plane such a brand-name piece of garbage anyway and somehow he went on youíve on YouTube to find out how to work it and he ended up finding me and I I published my number I answer the phone so he called me and I said to him I don't remember this conversation but he does he was asking me about how did what to do with it whatever and I said well Dave if you got her have you got a garbage can nearby yeah he says okay he said I said walk over there and drop it in there he said it's junk it's not worth your time and only frustrate you but knowing he was a combat wounded vet I said what you need to do is apply to our program and come well Dave got accepted and he came and as a result of some other things that are too long to get into Dave is now part of our team in fact Dave takes care of the combat wounded vets the selection process the vetting all of that for the classes in August September and October Luthor does May June July Dave does the last three so that's on this side does Jeremy Jeremy brought this Canadian vet named Jeremy recently dropped by said he saw the American flag which was which was made by marked with bukowski and all the guys in the class signed it on the back so he made us a Canadian one which i think is awesome and up here we have Philip Gustafson who was in my very first class combat wounded vet marine no army he was army because he gave me the green hat and perfect dovetail over there we have marshal Rommel same class yep Marshall was Nega Maria a marine preacher Marshalls marine correct me if I'm wrong Marshall another incredible jail over here is Jesse Perez and I'm gonna stop later and then we'll show what I'm going to tell you because somebody asked how did this whole thing start well Jesse's a little off-center in me right below we had a fellow in our class who was Special Forces and to commemorate all right he gave me this and we made this frame for it and just that was a canadian-american joint venture and started in 1942 in World War two here are my challenge coins the story behind every one of them and this is why we do this program we owe these people you and me not the government not some corporation but you and me they did this for us it's our responsibility to give back and if we can only help a handful of them that's a handful that get helped and I want to really tip my hat to Jack Lane and all the people who have who have taken it upon themselves to make this bench Brigade work it is equal I can't believe I suspected it but my suspicions have come true how many of these guys have gone home left our program and haven't touched woodworking since because they have nowhere to do it they don't have a bench you gotta have a bench and that's a daunting task to build a bench and we called them up these are guys from the past and they were thrilled and when Jack tells the story says Robby says every time I talk doing these guys I know why I'm doing this and it's awesome absolutely awesome be a part of it and it'll bless your life okay so make a donation be a rest assured I'll give you my word that that money comes in and it gets used for either their meals their airfare their hotel or their tools the only thing that we spend that money on that isn't directly related is I weep a super Dave's airfare and feed them in hotel I'm here and we do the same thing with Luther and anybody else that we bring in as an assistant but nobody's getting a wage off of this this is what we do because we know how important it is all right you heard that you're gonna hear some more all right so now what I've got I've got two good what's going on out there in internet land any questions I expect you just to speak up right if you blew me happens Luther's got taken care of Muslim okay but if somebody wants to talk about this I need to know what's going on - I want to hear what's being said in case I need to fill out something okay so now what I got to do is I got to get rid of that material so what I used to do I would come in with a quarter inch chisel you got to know where to stop so and this is a pain let me tell you doing these stop dedos by hand is a pain and did I get that a quarter of an inch no I didn't yeah I'm a little too narrow so I'm gonna I'm gonna do the easy one I'll switch this back by the way if you have if you don't have to marking gauges or four or six you're behind the eight ball it really pays these things are so versatile they act as a router plane a marking gauge cutting gauge depth gauge I use them if I need a if I need a strip of masking tape a certain size I'll go in there and I'll take my marking gauge like this I'll set it for whatever I want and I'll go in and just make a cut like that and go all the way around if I have to and then you end up with that perfect size tape so really versatile tool so now I got to go in I got to make this just a little bit wider I'm gonna do the easy one let's see if that's the right size take my quarter inch chisel could go even bigger I should have went all the way down I didn't this gives me a nice deep line and you want to keep you want to make sure that is firmly locked okay it's Charlie on tonight charlie ray have you seen him nope now what I would have done is come in here like this and just slowly removed the bulk of that material between those cuts and it was so easy to accidentally bump the other line now what I had done to as I would to go in and I would clamp a piece on there like that and use that as a guide either way it was a long arduous process so what I thought about when I read that question today is what if we went in put the quarter-inch cutter in here and then clamped a fence on here so I'm gonna try that and see now Lee Nelson makes this particular shoot Jake where's my key where's my driver right there just below the rabbit plane this just below in the drawer no gee he's attitude no well that'll work that's not the one I want now I don't use this a whole lot and I'm not referring to the I'm not referring to this tool I'm referring to what I'm about to show you it's the adapter for using the smaller cutters in this large router plane but I got to get that all the way out and you take that and where's my quarter inch cutters and I just have any yeah put that in there like so and we're gonna bring that all the way up somebody wants to know why you don't use the mortis gauge attachment describe the lines for the groove because the mortis gauge attachments I used more for the tenon the mortise gauge attachments that I don't have here the cutters are on the outside so that would leave your bevel on the outside instead of the bevel on the inside when I cut a mortise I when I actually cut the mortise I usually only LOUIE LOUIE I use my marking gauge and I just have one line instead of two like this but when I cut my tenon you need two lines and so I designed my marking gauge my mortise engaged to put the bevel on the outside so it leaves you that perfect shape for your tenon hopefully that makes sense sorry it's the clear things I'm gonna it's it's for marking the tenon but it is the dimension of the mornings yes because you've referenced it off of your chisel that's it that's a separate question okay we got this in place now I'm going to this is going to take multiple passes I'll see if I can take a cut that heavy first I'll lock this in place now in order to do this we'd have to have a fence on there I added this piece on so I frequently will use this tool for cutting down the tenon so you're holding it over here and you're going in and you're working away on that tenon but if you didn't have this you don't have as much material because as you're when you're doing this that cutter is pulling pulling the the tool down like this so you got to have a lot of reference service here to counteract that I do it a lot I'm gonna get a couple of clamps now I'm a little bit high I'm gonna use that piece of poplar right there I was I was looking for some smaller clamps but I don't see them this small sequence no I'm not using a piece of Hawley as a fence would we use a piece of error wood and look it even the face so I've got that sitting right between them we'll just make this nice and smooth you realize we're not done half of the first page right this might be a great idea for once a month of course it's a great idea cuz it's mine your idea for it was yes absolutely you're not just saying that no 100% in fairness to Frick are you his best idea ever was marrying my daughter true yes until I realized the baggage you just haven't completed the dowry but Frick to actually come up with some great ideas our YouTube channel was Fricks original idea this whole live thing was Fricks idea keep going I'm hitting a wall Frick help me yeah I don't know either so I got I got lots of fence now let's see how we it would be nice if the grain was running the right way now I may have had too aggressive of a cut but you know what this is gonna work a whole lot better than the way we used to do it did you chop down at the end yeah oh no I didn't thank you Jake I thought I did so the intent was so I've got to make sure that this stops where I need it to stop so this is actually taking care of several of the questions because I saw this came up multiple times are you removing that right now so you can take the cut deeper yeah yeah I want to hit that wall I don't want to risk because of the amount of force required to push that router plane I don't want to risk blowing off the end of this why don't we win his ass coming on whenever is he standing by yep after you're done this question we're almost at 800 viewers too so it's a good time those are some pretty good numbers what now I I'm going to tell you something right now it's nice to have this big piece to reference off of but I've got this I've got this cutter just a little bit too low I'm gonna bring that up and I use a screwdriver on this I don't think you can get it tight enough just with thumb pressure unless you're super Dave and that's only because he spends most of his day twiddling his thumbs it's not true he does I thought his wife did that we had them all marching in line the other day now you may be thinking we're giving Super Dave a hard time but he actually calls and asks for this if if I thought the grain was going the wrong direction I could easily turn this around and go the other way it might be a little bit tough at the end you'd have to definitely do some chisel work now for the sake of seeing it work I'm going to take this down a little bit to prove to you whether or not it does work so I'm gonna go with a I'm going to advance that fair bit I think it's important in the beginning that you make shallow cuts to get that little trough established because once you've established the trough then it rubs on the sides of the cutter and it will go a long way to helping keep that cutter from drifting off one side of the other I'll make I'll make one more pass any feedback on this technique anybody saying anything sorry I was looking at my phone to set up ash here wasn't now this is the neatest that I have seen in attempting to do this over the years I'm gonna go in here and I'm just going to trim that wall is my brother Randy on Rex you're cleaning that out with each other couldn't you run the router plane I could I just I made it a little bit too wide but because it's got some depth I can run the side of the chisel the wall the side of the chisel along that wall and it's keeping it in line I think they're out celebrating with their stimulus check clean up that this inside wall was nice and clean to begin with so I don't have anything work to do there so what I'm gonna do is have Jake come in with the camera now this isn't poplar poplar tends to be somewhat of a stringy wood but remember this is down inside a groove so it's not like you're gonna be seeing it you're gonna put a panel in there but I'm quite impressed with the results take a quick look at that now that would be stopped here and stopped over here so the only difficulty you would have is you'd have to dig you'd have to start it here and then maybe turn it around in order to finish this end like you finished that one good question and I'm happy with the answer okay ash there Rex what I have a 45 and no I've never used it somebody else asked that question to I I think that was mostly for softwood I can't imagine using that very easily in Maple and if I ever get some Oh what so Stanley 4555 work planes that would cut various profiles kind of a funky looking thing I don't even know where mine is I don't think it's right here within reaching distance because I don't I don't know where it is anyway no I haven't but I plan to at some point okay so ash wilt came came to our attention because of Tony right Tony Martin who was there in the class with us when we very first to be very early beginnings of Purple Heart and Tony was a helped us out in a big way and he's been a huge advocate for the Purple Heart project down under and he put us in touch with ash and because Ash was coming from so far away Australia we brought him in and he wanted to do something like this back home we brought him in two or three or four days early there so he could kind of acclimate and he actually ended up teaching with us a little bit before he took the glass and was just awesome having him so he's grown a lot of facial hair since since facial hair since I last saw him he's more attractive more Jake things you just started from your eyebrows and run it all the way down ash go ahead what I want you to do is just tell them what the Purple Heart project did for you from the perspective of a combat wounded vet tell them where you are and what time it is and the rest of that stuff wait a mo Oh ash do we need dave to translate say that again we're just checking the volume can just we need to check somebody tell us if you can hear him it's super davon anyway you can speak up Asher get closer to your mic ya don't have to turn up there to turn up their volume I guess where are you in terms of you where's your backyard get evacuated didn't you okay address address address your experience with the Purple Heart and I've been doing a thing called dovetails for diggers where okay veterans around and they make a dovetail box to put their medals in and come in see your project actually showed me how bad of a job so and it gave me the confidence to really to really try and Excel what I'm doing here just just and to to hang out with some guys you know sort of been through the ringer to sort of see see it from the side of the student yeah it was lovely you know and the compassion that you have rope yourself was it was lovely to be around just the whole and that was just super Dave you know what we had a blast we that was that was one of the more fun weeks that we've ever experienced it was just constant laughs it was a ton of fun you should explain games Bob Evans Bob that was only when you cuddled oh right ass on a more serious note I wanted to address combat wounded vets it may be watching and our gun-shy about applying just but as soon as you buy the bullet you get on your way on my way to the airport I I said to myself you know at least a dozen times and so flying flying all the way to Canada from here was it was incredibly daunting but on the plane and got comfortable I knew it was gonna be the best thing I've ever done and it really was but it is it is really hard and you know for the guys that are a big gunshot you know it will be hard to actually make yourself go but trust me once you could you were educate us and just tell us a little bit about the significance of this day for Ozzie we we commemorated the landing at Gallipoli so a particular battle we please in Turkey it was basically a big stuff up blamed it on the wrong page yeah so it's it's it started obviously purely as a commemoration to commemorate everybody sacrificed so well when it when there's no virus going around we have all their marches and and all that sort of stuff but in exact day this year was we just hung out in our driveway with the family and lit a candle and listened to the bugle and how to mean it so it says the Sun cannot be in the morning which in closing asked can you just say whatever you want to say to the multiple people that donate that make it possible for us to do this thank you that's all it needs even Dave yes thank you it's been awesome good to see you good to talk to you again I know I know I gotta come good on that promise I made you you ready for it tools so so what so what ass what ass is doing he's trying to put together a program where local vets can come over and he can share with them so I told him I said look I'll give you tools so for three sets of tools so that you can do this right but he needs to now build a shed of some sort in order to be able to do it so keep me posted on that you never know you might see some generous donors kick in for some building materials it wouldn't it wouldn't be unlike them yeah well it'd be nice to have a little help too we'll see what we can do about that yeah do it and I'm sure you get the same feeling Rob just sort of you know I've seen guys at the start of the week you know there's no much conversation and like guys are a bit tentative and then by the end of the week you can't get people to shut up to you know give them some teaching points because they just chin wagging and having such a good time I can't see your chin wagon yeah yeah it is listen we're gonna get back to this thank you for doing this ash appreciate it yeah you to give the best give our best to your family all right we'll be in touch thank you have you I'm sure you've all experienced something like that where you flood get to flooded with all those memories of something the week that we had him it was just incredible because every time he would talk Super Dave would stand there and he would give the American translation of what was just said had a lot to do with dingoes and armadillos I wish we had Dave on here right now because oh like I said it felt like you just did five hundred sit-ups at the end of the day because you laugh so much awesome it was awesome go ahead do the next question Frick how are donations coming don't forget now this would be odd wouldn't it be incredible I got to tell you the rest of the bit of the backstory ash was getting a lot of flack because I'm he's living on a military pension unable to work because of PTSD and he's using the money they need for trying to put together this so he can bring these guys in and I know he was getting a little bit of flack from his better half because you know he was trying to do things with limited funds and then to have it burned down wouldn't it be incredible if we could donate the materially material so he could get a couple of these vets in and they could build a proper shed we'll take care of sending them tools I told him I will send you enough tools for three guys he's already got his that we sent him with so you can actually have them and because the shed was only big enough he said maximum three at a time so if you want to do something like that earmarked that specifically for helping ash with that and we will make sure that it'll happen Rex loud no no don't don't do GoFundMe they take 8% read the fine print do it through us just tell us what you want we're that you wanted earmark for that and we'll make sure that's why we that's why we started it because 8% is a big chunk don't do it through youtube they take 32% it's crazy okay Frick okay can you write a couple plain questions how do you fix a crack on the side of a stanley number seven if it breaks off other than so if it isn't cracked you don't want to fix it the minute you try to weld something like that you're gonna distort it personally the old Stanley Plains weren't built to very tight tolerances there's no way they're going to be flat your ability to flatten something much beyond the length of a jack plane is pretty slim to none if you think about it I got to move mine own if you're trying to flatten the number seven and you're applying pressure here and here look how far away your pressure is from the end of the plane I wouldn't even attempt it for the amount of effort that you're gonna put in to try to do that go by a wood River if you got the money go by Lee Nilson buy a good plane and just get to enjoy it it's it's just I've I have Rick I have restored mo more than 300 possibly as many as 400 planes and I'm telling you even when it's done and finished they don't work anywhere near like one of these do they don't have the mass and out just end this so we took a couple of number five and a half's we took a five and a half Wood River and at five and a half Stanley and we weighed them Jake how much did the Wood River how much did the Stanley weigh four pounds twelve and how much was of the Wood River seven pounds huge difference now you think that that doesn't make a difference that mass when you're pushing it through a piece of hardwood is all the difference in the world and it's just this it's just so solid in your hands I don't sell Wood River plains in the US and most of people watching tonight are from the US so I'm not trying to sell you a plane I'm trying to give you a great experience if you're in Canada or any other rest of the world I can help you out the only thing we don't do is we cannot sell Wood River Plains into the US by agreement with woodcraft prick next okay so that that one that one was from Matt from Chicago we have another team at the next one's from dusty oh also from Chicago I'm considering purchasing a scraper plane what have you what has been your experience and the pros and cons thank you well if you're gonna get a scrape or plane there's there's a third one it's a small one I don't bother with it there's two this is that is patterned after the Stanley number I used to know this stuff off by her 85 and the nice thing about this is the blade goes all the way to both sides so if you need to get into a vertical surface you can do that by the way the handles tilt so don't bust your knuckles you don't have as wide a path but that is a nice feature this one which is patterned after the stanley 112 the blade doesn't go all the way but it's a heavy plane and it's a much by your cut I'd be hard-pressed to make it's almost a 50/50 if I was going to do one or the other one of the nice things about this is that you can you can advance the move the blade tilt it forward which actually is like advancing the blade on a plane as you tilt it forward because the cutting edge is behind there ahead of the pivot point it actually puts that blade down deeper for a heavier cut so I probably would do 51 percent 49 and there's a knack to doing it now most people think that you've got to use something like this for planing bird's-eye maple know a sharp hand plane a sharp and plane will always trump a scraper unless you move into the exotics and then in those cases these are work extremely well so if you're not working with exotics I would say you need to revisit your hand plane experience make sure that you're you've got your sharpening down make sure you get good sharpening gear we sell the stuff that we sell is the stuff that we use we're not we don't promote stuff unless we actually use it ourselves so our sharpening gear I consider to be the best if there was something better I'd go find it and when I say best I mean number one criteria for sharpening gear and this applies to scrapers as well because you have to be sharpened likewise my number one criteria is the end result what kind of an edge you're gonna get from it my number two criteria is good fingers right is the speed if it takes me a half an hour I'm not interested if it takes me less than a minute I'm highly interested number three criteria is the cost and that's way over here I don't care what it costs this stuff is what makes all my tools work I don't care what it costs if I'm getting performance at the top and speed at the top those two should be the only thing you worry about yeah I know you're gonna go on to me about money money money there's tons of money out there money is a reward for service rendered if you don't have enough money look in the mirror and say have I rendered enough service and if you don't you haven't change it fix it that's my speech on money next okay up next is from Scott McKee he's from Cumberland British Columbia hey Scott Oh Canada and he wants to know I'm interested in your take on leveling and applied wooden edging to a piece of hardwood veneer plywood the face veneers on the plywood are very thin and easy to go through when leveling the edging shoot I was gonna I was gonna I read that one and I was gonna set up for it and I didn't get to it I forgot so the problem is if you're banding typically what we call it a well here come over here Jake please so here's what we did this is a piece of maple MDF core plywood and we well I had a beautiful piece of bird's-eye you can see how heavy the Birdseye is and I wanted to utilize that as much as possible so I was able to get this piece and this piece and that piece and that piece that went all the way down out of one piece so when you glue that on then you have to flush it up I the better you get and that's really not better it's I should say the more confidence you get the if this is 3/4 then at the most this is going to be thirteen sixteenths applied and then you've got to come in and you're always gonna have to flush it up the easiest way and I don't do it by power I do it by hand the easiest way to do it is to lay your plain and I typically will use my five and a half lay your plain so that you've got lots of reference surface over here you want this to come down to that so you don't want to be working the other way around where you're trying to you know you need to have that reference point and I always plain so that I can see down through my throat I can see what the blade is and I'm getting really close and I'm constantly stopping and feeling with my thumb or finger so I know when I'm really close and then I'll adjust accordingly meaning I'll pull the blade in so I have very little exposure so little that if I accidentally hit the veneer I'm not doing any damage I'm just barely touching it now you may want instead of using a five and a half you may want to use your block plane maybe some people find little easier to control has nothing to do with the cutting angle but you just might want to use that to get that final cut the blade needs to be incredibly sharp so that you're not tearing anything you don't have to worry about tearing the veneer if you have the blade really sharp with minimal projection close that throat down I don't think I've ever and I've done a lot of this I don't think I've ever ruined a piece of veneer when doing that banding now how do you get there well it starts right here you've got to have sharpening gear and if you're not willing to spend your money in sharpened gear then you're not serious about any of this this and I'm harping on it this makes all those tools work so if you scrimp over here you're gonna pay for it every time you pick up that plane that chisel any of those planes don't scrimp by the best that there is save your money until you can afford it you will thank me I our attitude here is do the cry once choice you cry when you buy it and you smile every time afterwards if you don't spend enough and you get the junk you're gonna cry every time you use it there is no end of the pain okay hopefully that was answered next I want to before I read the next question I think we should give a special shadow to Douglas dolt er he just donated $2,000 mattress Doug just donated $2,000 to the you know what this is Doug is just a great guy let me tell you a little backstory doug has a mattress Factory and oh no Matt and dad Doug has a as a has a he many manufactures mattresses and his shop was closed down because it's coronavirus so he turned all of his sewing machines and his staff and his supplies into making masks that he freely gives out to first responders that's the kind of person Doug is I'm not the least bit surprised to see him doing that he and a friend are coming up what class October coming to take our October class I can't wait to shake his hand super person and he's the type of people that we love to surround ourselves with Doug thank you you'll be Matt just Doug for everybody speaking of people do we have that list of vets I'm sure we have more than three but three that made their present so Danny bells here of course hardwood Grove Shawn Danny Bell Danny Bell Danny Bell stinker and the girls that's just who we know them as howdy and Dan a Dan way uh hi Felix Felix oh yes yes Super Dave said special height of Felix he wanted Felix come up and spend a weekend play with the chickens Dan I ought to Scott the other day about getting him a bench so if you haven't already we're gonna put you two together so got a little bit old Danny Bell Danny was a helicopter pilot flew the Chinook helicopters that's the big one that has two props and Danny is a combat wounded vet came here and took our class and just a just salt of the earth so Luther no super Dave and Jake and I went down to Nam uh-huh the hardwood grove which is in Clarksville Tennessee and Danny said Rob I really want to help promote this project and he had 32 combat wounded vets show up on Saturday he went out found a local barbecue establishment which was fantastic food provided all the food for us for the day and we spent a day demonstrating hand planting sharpening and dovetails it was fantastic and I told Danny we will come every year if you're gonna put this kind of effort in the least we can do is do our part so we will down and we'll be back and stinker gave up his bed for me appreciate it and and the rest of it is just great memories who else Sean McDermott and David Sean Sean was another story if I if I go through this we're gonna get me more done but Sean is Sean was a memorable experience I will tell that story someday about me standing in a grocery store and when Sean called Sean's going to come back and be one of our assistance which cost we haven't men can't remember but John and Sean's wife is is a nurse so she's working through this coronavirus so we tip our hat to her fantastic people and Dave do sure Dave Dave actually wasn't a combat when the vet Dave was in the class but dave has been a staunch supporter he just Dave you're awesome you're absolutely awesome Air Force oh yes I wasn't a combat win event but he was a vet he was in the Air Force but I Dave Dave donates every time much appreciated anyone else nope well I'm sure there is but corrects on the other three all right let's move on yeah we Jason from Northern California by the way if we do this again if you keep your questions short they're more likely to get answered some of them were Derek is are Derek Derek welcome I assume Charlie somewhere close by what Frick okay Jason from Northern California hi Jason when setting up a small shop what are the first tools I should acquire power or hand tools thinking about making small boxes ah okay I'm gonna have to separate that will do it if we're gonna do hand tools I'm gonna do is power if you're gonna do power remember I don't get I don't get what but why don't you tell him what you would buy for both I said I'm gonna do well I know when you're making small boxes right he's thinking about making small boxes so maybe focus but he said power ahead so I'm gonna give you both no budget I don't get I don't get sponsored by any of these companies that I mentioned if I'm selling you something I'll tell you because I'll tell you where to buy it here by a saw stop I don't care what it cost by a saw stop it's not worth it somebody recently a customer recently sent me a picture of a friend of his and the table saw I went right up through the middle of his index finger there was no warning and I saw that it's like oh and it was terrible and if you think it's aa stopped expensive think twice about that so get yourself a saw stop table saw is the heart of your shop when we built this I wanted to be able to drive a truck around my soft and today we actually can this is the this will do more than any other power tool you have this would be number one number two is gonna be a jointer and don't get anything less than an eight inch jointer because you'll just find that it's not enough I've got a sixteen and I can count on one hand the number of times in a year that we need that sixteen inch capacity so I bought it because I had it all right I had the opportunity to an eight inch jointer and it's got to be a good one don't have time to get into all that actually that one second tool that I would buy is probably going to be oh you know what that's a tough one I'm gonna tell you that number three has tied a drill press you need a drill press and a bandsaw and you want at least a 15 inch something with a little bit of beef and I would stop there now some people say about a thickness planer well you know what if you're doing small boxes you can actually rip it on the table saw and then finish it with the hand plane now hand tools of course right here you have to start right here this is where you have to spend your money right here by your sharpening gear that I tell you to buy and if you're not sure call me and ask me and I'll tell you the minimalist kit is going to be a trend diamond plate and a sixteen thousand grit shopton stone and that will give you a fantastic edge if you want to go all out then you're gonna get the shopton lapping plate cost money but it has a level of precision you can't get anywhere else and if you're gonna do that route then you have to have the shaft in 1,000 or 500 and the 16000 far as planes go the five and a half wood river is going to be the plane that you will use most of the time I would I don't think I'd be exaggerating if I said I use that 85% of the time that I'm using hand plane what a lot of people that have asked they have a number six six do they need to go get a five-and-a-half no no you see the difference there's a five and a half and there's a six rate beside it so all of the parts all of the parts with exception of the actual body of the plane are identical the difference that's not mine the difference is look sleepy about 2 and 3/4 of an inch that's the only difference we give the vets of 6 because it's a little closer to a jointer which and it's gonna be a little easier to transcribe to transport back home and we give them a four and a half but you asked a question if you're just going out and buying it yourself I would buy five and a half number one number two would be my low angle block plane stay away from the standard angle you want the low angle the wood rivers the best I think the best value my third plane would be a three-quarter inch shoulder plane blade goes all the way to both sides that will do tasks that no other plane can do and if I was gonna get a fourth plane then I would then the question becomes well are you starting from rough and if you're only gonna do it then you might need a scrub plane but for going that I would say probably a number seven jointer and then you're gonna have chisels you're gonna need at least at least a quarter 1/2 and 3/4 and that'll get you by by the IBC listen if you buy junk chisels you deserve everything you get you have to spend your money and buy the best tools we designed these why because we couldn't find what we wanted in any other chisel Lee Nelson makes what I think is one of the nicest chisels out there the problem is that has never been solved the handles fall off so you just finished sharpening you're walking back over holding it by the handle the next thing you know the steel falls off and as its heading to the ground the concrete floor you say do I stick my foot out there to prevent it from hitting the concrete floor and have a chisel in my leg or do I let it hit tip first into the concrete not a decision I like having to make get the IBC's and you get beautiful handles like that that a med made for us so you have to have you have to have chisels you need marking gauges one two three get good ones we make the best one I think you can get for the style of wood work that I do so if you see my method of laying out there cutting dovetails you'll know how I use my marking gauge and I built it for that very purpose what else do we use saws so as you need a dovetail crosscut and medium tenon that's the bare necessities this is for all of you dovetailing work this is for anywhere where you're gonna cut across the grain on what you would call a finished cut and a medium tenon is going to be for the deeper heavier cuts that you would encounter when you're cutting the tenon and then your squares you need a couple of good squares we found P EC to be the best value they're not the cost of a starett yet they have the same tolerances a little best we can find out as starett at a fraction of the price and what else is gonna need over in here oh that does that's gonna that's gonna be the bulk of your stuff you know you can spend a ton on clamps and other things but yeah I did a video on top 10 tools so you gonna check that out ok Frick next sorry you're supposed to have that next one just like that so we can Bank you I never know when you're gonna finish sometimes you have the next one ready so when I do finish I'm you can fire it off at me okay next up we have Jerry Pickering from San Diego California why Jerry why does one process the back of a chisel but not the back of a plane blade when setting up the tool initially ah good question I remember reading this one so my friend David charlesworth developed the technique called the charlesworth ruler check I'm talking fast so I can get through this for your quick he did this way back in the early 1970s now the back of a chisel is the jig of the tool that means I want that back to be absolutely flat so if I'm coming in here and I've got a I've got to smooth something let's say I've got a I've got a dowel on there and I want to flush it off I want to be able to set that chisel down there and I want to engage as soon as I touch if I have to lift lift lift lift lift to finally get that to bite then my back is not flat the back of a chisel is the jig of the tool critical when you chop like this if your back is slightly curved as you're chopping your chisels gonna want to go off like that you I want that I want to know exactly where that's going to go based on the flatness of the back now that's a chisel on a plane blade that has no bearing whatsoever if you prepare the back of a plane blade like you did it chews here's what you're gonna end up doing you're gonna flatten this great big surface because you can't just flatten a little bit of it you got to do a whole lot of it and you're spending all of your time polishing all of this you're only going to use that well the charlesworth ruler trick involves taking a thin steel rule elevating the blade slightly so that you can get away from all of this but it's imperative that you have a polished surface here meeting a polished surface there a cutting edge can only be good as good as the lesser of the two surfaces Paul is this one ignore this one then you have an edge that is the equivalent of that ignored side but it doesn't have to be flat it can be less than a degree elevated you get a little polished strip right out there you can hardly even see it but that little polished strip means that little polished strip and it is just as good as if I had polished all of the bevel and all the back there is no difference except one takes 30 seconds one takes three hours hopefully if you don't understand that we are we I have several YouTube's out there that explain it and we're gonna do a couple of we're actually are soon to be done tasked is going to be making a very concise video on sharpening plane blades that you can go to and when every time we make future videos we can just reference back to it so hope that helps next alright next one comes from Sean agony nough from Long Island New York Sean can you tell us about the plaque on your light stand on your bench oh I'd be happy to also any specific ways to practice cutting dove kill dovetails or is it more repetition okay let's do this first so way back in 2016 when we decided to start the Purple Heart brush I do Jake if you give me a second here and it was gonna cost us a lot of money we had the idea that we were going to bring in half the class's combat wounded vets and this lady named barb lip ik contacted me and she said Rob you're doing exactly what Bob would want you to do who's Bob well I met this man a long time ago when I start doing the would show circa and I'm gonna say back in the early 2000 2001 and he was just a he was a funny great guy he was just a guy that you'd want to be friends with older than me played hockey ever in Canada does but I also come to find out that he was very wealthy too and but he was a type of guy that he he did everything that had to be done so he and may a manufactured underground mining equipment and he would be all over the world but he said as he said he cuz I go to places that nobody wants to go kidnapped a couple times just unbelievable stories but also an extremely generous man unfortunately Bob died just a couple of weeks before he was to come to our class he came to every class I ever taught and his generosity knew no ends it really was amazing well about a year later when we decided to do this I'm not sure how barb found out but she she donated literally all of the money that we needed in order to run that class and this bench was actually for Bob he had asked me to build him this bench and then unfortunately because of his death he never took delivery and I ended up keeping it so I wanted to I wanted to commemorate Bob's generosity by having this black made and putting it on there Bob Lepik fellow fellow friend friend and fellow craftsman and bob was everybody that knows Bob will smile as soon as you mentioned the name because it's just the type of guy that he was fantastic and a barb if you're watching thank you for your generosity and I miss Bob not as much as you do I'm sure but I miss Bob he was a great guy and dovetail read map partly when he's got any specific ways to practice cutting dovetails or is it more just repetition it's only repetition once you know what you should be practicing if you repeat making a mistake you're gonna get really good at making that mistake that doesn't do you do any good so here's my quick quick tips on dovetailing by the right tools if you know the right tools you're spinning your tires it's not it doesn't make any sense what is the right tool you have to have a dovetail saw this is this represents 70% of your ability to do the joint my saw in particular no the dovetail saw if it's a great saw then you're going to have dovetails that are gonna be perfect like these first time Philip Augustus and first time dovetail look at this marshal Rommel first time Jake and hone in on they're not gonna find any errors this saw is 70 percent of the joint it either cuts straight and true or it doesn't if it cuts straight and true then you don't have to do anything to that side if it doesn't you got to go in and fix it with a chisel good luck with that I make the best saw period and I don't care if you think I'm being bold for saying that we can prove it buy it and try it you'll know number two is well number we'll finish number one you gotta have the right tools this is the this is how they rate and importance saws number one accurate marking gauge that actually works is number two number three would be dovetail marking knife and if you don't know this new technique that I have then you're really missing the boat on on the best way to cut a dovetail number four would be a fret saw to more accurately and quickly remove the waste number five is going to be some decent chisels the chiseling work is the weakest skill I see as I travel around and teach dovetails throughout the Western Hemisphere and from there the brand name doesn't matter as much you want you want a pair of dividers you want a dovetail marker you need a mallet you're gonna want a steel hammer for putting them together what am I forgetting there Jake anything now 70% of your dovetail is the tools you're using 20% is the technique so that new technique that we have where you use the tail board literally to start two curves for the pin board meant that we used to have the old way we'd have three out of 12 people in a class doing a good job the new way we have eight or nine out of twelve doing a good job get it if look it up go to hand cut dovetails a different approach 1 part 2 part 3 on YouTube and you'll find it we'll put a link in there freak well and number 3 part of me that's back up 70% tools 20% what I just told you prep the technique only 10% is practice how can I prove that there wasn't enough time in a day to practice to make a difference on that or on that or any number of the samples that I have around here ask the guys get them to comment on there am I telling the truth yes what the practice does it makes you a little more efficient and it makes you quicker but as far as getting a great dovetail that is more to do with the tools you're using in the technique than all the practice and yet how many people tell you all practice practice no you practice the wrong thing you're just going to be terrible only really good at being terrible now you get me going next question for me tell me what he can do to practice he should practice well he should take he should that we're gonna do a virtual class where we've got it figured out oh my goodness that thing is heavy so if you're if you're if you're going to alright let's let's put Knox's piece here's here's some of the things that I would practice here's my piece of half-inch poplar and somebody said I read the other day it was a good idea if you're gonna practice practice in the wood that you're gonna be cutting that's that's pretty good advice I would say that if you're brand new practice in a very easy to cut wood because an easy to cut wood will allow you to focus on technique without having to apply the muscle so here's what my saw has these little tiny teeth up front what's critical with the dovetail saw is this if you can't start it put a camera up to my face please if you can't start I don't care how fast or slow it cuts it's in the wrong spot you may as well use a chainsaw if you're gonna do it that way it you have to be able to put that curve exactly where you want it so those little teeth at the front I can see the flooded dump those oars I'm gonna get there's a little tease at the front with very little with actually a negative to 30 degree cutting face allow you to go in and without any resistance you can do that and that's just enough to start it so when you move to the big teeth there's your speed okay that is critical a pistol grip is critical why because it registers in your hand the same pick it up so what am i yelling well I'm loved so what I would do is just practice a whole bunch of this accurate lines don't be sloppy and go in there and do this practice cutting on this side of the line and practice cutting on this side of the line this side of the line and this side of the line get my picture get the drift and then check it when you make these cuts somebody else asked this question we didn't get to it you want to use a six-inch rule make sure if you're using a combination square like this that that blade is up inside so it's not it's not giving you a incorrect reading and then what you want to do is you want to practice until you can be within an eighth of an inch over six inches I'm out a little less than 1/16 so by the time you work back to a half an inch that's not even that that doesn't matter okay that's what's most critical the angles they'll come they're not a big deal and the plumb cuts that almost takes care of itself with our new technique so that's what I would do is practice one side of line the other side line one side like this I like and you'll learn to straighten out your sawing pay attention to your stance nice stable three point three point stance one two feet more than shoulder-width apart and never let go of the board that's your one two three milk's duel analogy remember nice and stable or a tripod this has to line up you start here and you go right up to the shoulder the elbow has to be underneath the shoulder directly underneath it if you're sawing with your elbow here and there gonna be any good so you got to turn your body enough so that you can line that up and then you have to pay attention that when you set your saw down if it's not in the spot you want you correct with your feet you don't move your arm like this okay try to squeeze in one more Frick well this kind of goes on the same topic it's from Dean rampy hi Dean he's from Anchorage Alaska he has your dovetail saw he says I am practicing my dovetails I'm cutting down the full width of the blade when I place a square against the work piece and the saw blade how much of a gap at six inches is acceptable no okay so Dean no more than 1/8 but if I was cutting a three-tailed joint that's six cuts I wouldn't want more I wouldn't maybe two that are out an eight no more than that you want to you want to work to be better than that and if you need to practice on a thicker piece of wood that will give you a longer line so when I do this I'll end with this I pray to create a Anchor Point with my opposite index finger and thumb get this finger out of the way squeeze like this not like that if you squeeze like that and press the saw against them you're gonna cut your finger with the set of the teeth if you bring your fingers up like this now the bump of the finger and thumb are above the set of the teeth so as I press this all laterally and I've always got some light lateral pressure so that won't wiggle one way or the other then I'll move it like this into position so now all I see on the right side of the blade is pencil mark no wood just pencil mark then I start my cut way I go use all of your blade don't dull your dull the middle part of your saw prematurely use all of your blade check it and you should be within 1/8 now that that one is about 1/16 so seems like that's all I'm gonna get tonight you should tell them that they can only have one maybe two out an eighth I did the same direction right yeah aim for perfection aim for perfection but if you're out to say if you're out an eighth of an inch over six inches on one it's not a big deal but as Jake saying if if one side is 1/8 minutes this way and the other ones out Nathan's that way well that's gonna compound it make it even worse so shoots aim for perfection listen anybody can do this if you can tie your shoes you figure if you have that much manual dexterity and your interest level is up here you will get this get my saw why because it is designed by someone who cuts dovetails so it works not to mention 10% of our saw sales support our purple art project thank you very much now I think we're out of time I know we're at a time my dinner sitting out there's been there for two hours but I'd love to stay on here let's do this again let's plan to do this once a month I think this is great I enjoy the interaction I love being able to spew my stuff hopefully you're benefiting from it I love the Purple Heart project it is it is my mission in life is to do this and I will do it as long as I'm alive join me be part of it and as as Jax has discovered it's just when you do it there is no other feeling outside of the your immediate family you just can't describe what it makes you feel like it has nothing to do with money or anything else it's just that feeling you get when you're doing something you know is helping someone else now we get into our draw to support our program tell everybody you know about the Purple Heart project so that sooner or later that person that needs to hear finds out and we end up being able to bring him or her to our class what's up just uh you haven't shown the prizes since yeah oh all right so if did they register we didn't mention that we yeah we have 486 okay so last chance if you want to be in on the draw you don't have to make a donation just have to put your name in we're gonna give away three bottles of the finest New Brunswick maple syrup do you want to show them the nutrition facts no it tastes fantastic that's all you need to know it's dark maple syrup I can barely part with it and we'll have it up on our site when tomorrow tomorrow you'll be able to buy it don't hold back yes today you can or you buy something that's big enough to go in a box you get a little taste a little sample and it'll drive you crazy like it did to Michael so here's what and then our big prize is going to be our half blind so this is a half blind in order to do that and do it well you need a couple of new tools one is the kerf X 10 and we make these right here in the shop I can't open this up maybe I can with a screwdriver the kerf extend helps you go in if you haven't seen it work look it up on YouTube it's it's squared off excuse me doesn't have teeth and it goes in and finishes the cut it's amazing what it does I would not want to cut dovetails without it I did recently accidentally and what a pain and when you're cutting a half-blind you've got to be able to get into those corners and jake grinds these by hand look at that precision in fact I saw a picture he put on Instagram where he lined up a whole bunch of them and you can't tell that they weren't on my machine but this one chisel allows you to get into the left corner and into the right corner and more importantly when you're cutting through in grain which is that's a hard cut it keeps your line of four straight on skew chisels require do you have it tilted like this which makes it even harder to tools you would not want to be out if you're gonna do half blinds and and Shawn Mahaffey makes these for us this is purple infused resin impregnated maple nice and heavy and hard and that's the actual purple of the Purple Heart which I thought was cool so let's do the draw do the maple syrup first I wanna thank Rex my son back here who's been helping us tonight we're a family affair during this coronavirus Frick who was responsible for all of the technical side of things good and bad who's responsible Jake with the camera and we've got is Ken on tonight yes and Ken Anthony who's been helping remotely and Luther is super davon did he ever make yeah he's super dave Benson the team and I can't forget Angie Angie if you look on our website as part of her team as well she does all the packaging of the t-shirts all right we're ready yep go ahead so maple syrup number one is going to Jeane Dixon where you know okay well I can look that up Dean Dixon congratulations maple syrup number two maple C remember two is going to Josh Foust Josh congratulations maple syrup number three Kenneth Dov Lance goes by Lance Lance maple syrup number number three that was through five hundred but that was number three you 500 millimeters of pure deliciousness and finally the grand prize goes to Gerry Sarkozy hey Gerry Congrats yes congratulations I hope you enjoy it if you don't have a dove to solve well you know how to fix that all right so next Saturday night same time same place we're gonna back to work on Angie's box we're gonna be working on the drawer the side hung drawer looking forward to that would release a youtube every day of the week to keep you entertained and if you would like to try out our online workshop go and look at a previous video we'll put a link where you can go in and use it a special code and your first month is free on us and just so everybody knows what the help of Luther we're trying to take our YouTube channel to the next level so we need everybody to of course like the video subscribe hit the bell the notification bell so you're notified when we go live and when we released a new video and we're looking into some things we haven't done it yet but we're looking to really amp up our YouTube channel so yeah appreciate your feedback too and thanks for all the donations it's been great we've paid for a vet so and then some so excellent yeah next time thank you folks appreciate it please remember see a sex Saturday night tell any combat wounded vet tell everyone you know Purple Heart project and how good wood can be and helping these people we'll talk more about it every time we do this have a good night you

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