Jordan Klepper Recounts His Wild Experiences at Trump Rallies - Beyond the Scenes | The Daily Show

hey what's up i'm roy wood jr welcome to beyond the scenes now here's the thing about the daily show when it airs on comedy central it can only be so long because there's other programs and [ __ ] that we have to show but thankfully we've created this podcast where we can go beyond the stuff that we normally show you on the show to show you how those things are created to show you the people that helped create those things to show you where we are going forward with those issues this is what we have to do because the daily show isn't 24 hours long which if you ask me the daily show should be 100 a 24-hour wall-to-wall news satire program and we shoot it in hawaii ronnie chang i know you're listening to this and i want to come and visit you in hawaii joining me on the show today are two people who honestly hell they both deserve a damn vacation to hawaii they go time and time and time again into the magaverse exploring the craziness that is trump rallies and trump everything uh since since trump got into office here's a little here's a little snippet of old jordan clipper whenever i hear president i think of man it's a man's job i may be close-minded no yeah well no um misogynistic no you're voting against your own interests that's it thank you very much trump has been grooming his supporters to push back on any impeachment talk with this simple demand read the transcript read the transcript read the transcript read the transcript yeah did you read the transcript i don't have to everyone else has i can read it if i need to but right yeah but it's important that everybody reads the transcript it is very important pay attention and think for yourself yes you have but to be clear you have not read the training i haven't no right i've educated myself about this okay i don't know all what's in the constitution have you read it it's pretty short constitution of america yeah i've not read the whole thing no you've read the entire thing yes it's remarkably sure all right i doubt that but it's okay you should read it because you might be committing a seditious act in an hour and a half his pieces go viral every time he does them joining me is daily show contributor jordan clipper and our field producer extraordinaire who's always there with them dodging the blows from the trump supporters mr ian berger and jordan how are y'all doing today do it good roy thanks for having us yeah thank you roy excited to be here you two are interesting pairing because you all are part of the old guard what we call the old guard in the building you two are from john the jon stewart era daily show and you all have been just banging out like clip i've already told you this a long time ago it's not fair to rank so i'm not going to rank but i will say you are probably you take the most risks to me as a correspondent so number one comedy so number one yeah okay listen john oliver got his nose broken the camera kept rolling we both would have went to the hospital so john oliver tripped and got his nose broken that's not that's what i'm talking about like he was in some hairy situation dude was running in a field trip for a b-roll guy got his nose broken [ __ ] freedom [Music] [Applause] fair enough fair enough uh let's just start with the basics how are you both doing like burger i'll start with you because you're you've been in this [ __ ] for years just as a just as a part of the daily show but just what does your wife say to you when you go hey baby it's time to go out again is it like will smith and vivica fox when it was time to go fight the aliens indeed indeed it was exactly like that um is very supportive but um very uh also um rightfully concerned at times um she always checks to make sure i think what we're doing is safe she asks if we have some security with us which we do she asked for our plan if things go south and then especially in the last year she kind of checks our coronavirus safety protocols and she'll look at pictures of me from the field and kind of text me immediately and be like i don't know i don't feel safe with you being there and i'm like i'm here what am i supposed to do we're in it i'm not gonna hop on a train back to new york right now but even pre-covet before you all were going out there things were getting a little a little dicey because you know clepper the only thing that we ever did on the republican side of the campaign trail if i recall was the the the rnc convention in cleveland in 2016. we were going around then and it was a different tone it was a very different tone so how did these pieces start coming together jordan well i think from a very honest point like all jokes aside i needed health insurance i was out of a job and it's the one thing i can do because everybody else in that building doesn't have the guts to actually go outside and talk to human beings face to face so so once i got through that i mean i think quite honestly i i love doing this stuff it's so fun doing that going to the rnc with you roy and berg and i've been doing this for for years like it's so fun to be out there in the thick of it i love the political race i love being a part of that i've as as stressful as going to those rallies where uh the the first trump election 2016 like it was really i'd rather be out there a part of it than watching at home screaming on my tv so as the election came up and 2020 came up again you know i found myself with the show i was just working on clepper ending and uh talked to trevor and was like hey i want to be a part of this i want to go out and do this and he was game for it uh burger was game for it we'd done pieces at clepper at opposition back at daily show as well so we sort of you know ian and i have been doing this forever and have kind of a shorthand with it and wanted to go out and be a part of it uh it i think the experience was different than what we expected we thought we'd be covering all sorts of angles uh then covet hits and trump goes wild and we're suddenly in the middle of an insurrection so things got different but as wild as that gets i'd so much rather be out there in the middle of it agreed i i can honestly say i actually missed it as well um prior to this i was working on a show that's really not political and we did one interview on this other show with elizabeth warren and it was like the election was heating up and i was like i want to be involved in that again i really want to be doing that and same thing as jordan kind of came back to the show i was like let me go out and risk my life please i mean it is the fun thing i would say like berger and i will text back and forth uh articles things we're seeing wild insane [ __ ] uh and you're having this conversation that's a luxury at the daily show to have that conversation it's so much fun to be like we're talking about this here and tomorrow we can be on a plane and talk to the person who's starting this conversation or talk to other people that we can't believe if they believe it let's go talk to them and see what's going on so like it is it is the ultimate luxury it's what's so great about this job is you get to mix it up with those people uh you get to hold their foot to the fire or you just get to see the chaos that is america up close i'm gonna tell you something that myself and some of the other talent in the building was discussing um after you had your child you had your first child not too long ago and [Music] we were like okay well we know he's gonna do some paternity leave to be a father and bond and everybody every talent in the building was like please god don't let trump do anything [ __ ] stupid while clippers out cause i don't want to oh my goodness gracious it was such a relief when you came back to the show because i want to be honest as a black man i don't want to be out there how do you deal with the way people look at you when you're showing up to something and you're for sure not welcome well i will say i mean you bring up a good point and trevor's called this out like i do have the luxury of being a white man in america which allows me to go to certain places and that's not the thing that they're focused on and so i can i can walk into a trump rally and i can i look i look like all the folks that are coming from lunch yes i'm the cam i'm [ __ ] camouflage but you look like you look like you're there to hear and see you you look like an undecided white man yeah he doesn't have like a sweatshirt on and camo pants so it's not exactly fitting in yeah it's the kind of guy who's like thinking about buying a hat he's got his hand on his back pocket considering am i really going to wear this they're like the parties in the office will think this is funny what if i tell them about this event it's the guy who's voted for trump because of economic reasons uh yeah he's he he's the guy at that trump rally that's what i'm that's what i'm portraying and our cameramen kind of look like new york guys like brooklyn guys so like i think i just think that they hate all media so it doesn't actually matter what we look like as you said roy if we're walking around and jordan has a camera following him and a microphone he's the enemy like you know unless he was like a recognizable person from newsmax or something they're they're hostile right away are you guys the liberal media i have one word for you you are controlled by the deep state that's like four or five six words ten words that's even two that one's even two but that's okay nice to be out there amongst my people once more how's it going guys you guys are thank you you are brainwashed by the cabal and i have one more for you guys the silent i think that's always been the thing is there's a hostility there mixed with people wanting to one engage and two attention and so we get people who want to talk to us i think that's always the thing that like people sign their name saying it's okay for us to use this like they know they're on camera they want to talk they want to engage and so once they've gotten past oh that's a person with a camera i hate all camera i hate all news then they engage and i think it there has been an evolution over the last few years specifically the last year both of the trump voter who's gotten more angry and frustrated at the media and they went from being winners and in power to claiming their winners and not in power and that has changed the whole vibe and also for like our videos were pretty well seen and so we kind of arrived there as well and that adds a new element to it sometimes it means people want to talk to me more and engage and sometimes it means we have to be a little bit more low-key because people want to just scream at me whenever i pop up my big old head the hecklers grew as the our our segments you know kind of got more play yeah you're not fine i don't know what the decisions are telling them aerosols [Applause] what is the biggest difference to you in trump supporters just in the energy of these events from 2016 till now because you're essentially the guy that's got to have george back while he's in the [ __ ] yeah as jordan kind of hinted like there was a change 2016 their their rage was just directed to hillary clinton like it was like it was so focused and they were excited then they win and we started doing these events december 2019. so the crowd was like cocky they weren't angry at anything specific and they didn't have a target because biden wasn't the candidate and then as it evolved by they didn't have this ra the white hot rage at joe biden the way they had it for hillary clinton these extreme nations they don't treat women with respect we treat women with respect here yes we do that's an american ideal yeah tell me about your shirt what's it say it says hillary sucks but not like monica hilarious so we were talking about treating women with respect it's an american ideal that we treat women with respect you got to give me the back of that shirt one more time that's too much fun trump that [ __ ] we don't even see the irony in it i love it right when we started we started doing these um they were kind of like cocky and feeling good about their you know trump their place his place in history their place as you know supporters and his chances of getting reelected so you know they almost like took kind of jokes and understood it and we're like oh yeah big deal but he's the president we could you know we got everything we have the senate we got half congress we you know the thing that i've always hated about the clepper pieces is how some people will try to frame it like i read the i read youtube comments i know you're not supposed to don't do it roy you're better that's my guilty pleasure it's that of mcdonald's okay but i like it okay you're better you can do it it's not good for you it's not good for any of us it's too late i'm already i read them all i do i'm sorry and there's there's sometimes there's always the assertion of oh well you tried to make that person look bad but as i've always known it in anything that we've done on the show we're just having a conversation present to me your truth and let's just see where this goes are you how do you process these conversations in real time clippers because there's so many moments that are not scripted and this person says something and you turn it right back on them you turn their logic against them literally on a dime uh i mean it's genius i mean it's like how how would you ask you know einstein to describe relativity uh i mean sure he could do it because he knows the theory of relativity but i mean you get what i'm going for here uh there's some things are beyond uh well i will say it's it's i mean this it sounds hokey it's preparation and listening i think what people don't see is the process of this and it has evolved from the john days to what happened a few weeks ago but what it has evolved too is like ian and i know we're gonna go out we're we go to an event where people are going to uh arrive and have opinions on we see what the news of the week is what people care about and we start having conversations about what we hear they think and about the other perspective and so we start to amass like the conversation beforehand we think it through we have what we call joke meetings where it's ian and i talking about avenues of conversation uh ways to find humor in that we bring in a writer from the daily show who will just brainstorm ideas and we literally walk out the door with pages of jokes and avenues and places you can go i will say not a lot of those make it to the final piece and you'd be shocked you have four pages single space hundreds of potential jokes and the piece might have one but but it's all worthwhile because we've had the conversations we see what the issues with the arguments are and then we go out and then you gotta just [ __ ] listen i got ian there and he's off camera as well and so we're both listening to this person and we're talking about like avenues and once you get out there you realize the reality on the ground is different than what it is back in the studio it's why going out is so important it's what the daily show also does like we are there and so the assumption you have is like everybody thinks this you might get there and you might have a page of funny notes and things you want to hit and you realize they don't think that so you let it go and you find that new avenue and start discovering things and as a guy who comes from improv all the gold comes from discovery and all the connections come from listening and so you pay attention and you ask a [ __ ] follow-up question because it's the one thing that breaks every trumper's brain it's that they could be challenged with the question why and and you have them walk through why and more often than not they don't know why and so they get caught up in pretzels because yes a i'm a genius but b because they haven't thought it through that's where we get so much of our humor from jordan is obviously a genius he's the greatest thank you number one as roy said he said number one that's right i mean people understand some of this and this is jordan retaining all of the like those four pages of questions or jokes in an amazing way but some of this is debate prep like we know that we are going to debate mask usage with people there and we know like so you have to have some of you know statistics ready you have to have some of the science ready and jordan retains that and is ready to go when people are just like oh i heard it you know it doesn't it doesn't you know stop transmission and then jordan's like ready with like really nobody says that except for all these people say the opposite and so that's kind of like debate prep but in a way like the debate prep happens when jordan and i are on a plane having a drink or at the hotel part of your drink and it's like that's what you do you talk through it and then jordan retains so much of it and then presses them and then finds you know gold in something that we didn't prep for some guy says some guy says he's made more money under you know donald trump than he ever did under barack obama and jordan asked him what do you do for a living he's like i'm a debt collector and then jordan lands the joke um so like you can't prep for that you just need jordan standing there asking the question and ready to pounce are you in a better place than you were four years ago absolutely absolutely is america in a better place than they were for you i believe absolutely we have higher unemployment we have 200 000 people dead due to covet and we have riots in the streets yes let me just tell you this much yes i'm doing much better i'm literally making four times as much as i was making when obama was president what do you do i work for a debt relief company yeah so now as a debt relief employee you make more money under donald trump yeah i do yeah yeah it's good to be a white debt relief collector i do like that so much of it is how much can you retain from the conversation and argument you had at the bar the night before it's like that is that is a skill set that you'd be surprised how important it actually is burger is your drunken sparring partner you go you order a whiskey or two you you you have a uh conversation you you read on the news you argue a little bit and then you you wake up the next day and uh with a sober mind do you uh you have it again as jordan said sometimes you're prepared with like their arguments and you do that by reading the news and reading twitter and reading your um kind of racist uh neighbors facebook pages which i do thank you carl yeah thanks for the prep and you're ready and then sometimes they don't bite on any of that and they're they just go down different avenue and jordan is there to pounce and it's great well all those those moments that uh are that stick out in my mind are all these things that you could never prepare for like you know we went to a rally and a guy throws his sister the nurse under the bus because he doesn't trust any doctors or nurses my own sister's a retired rn and we're not talking right now because of her beliefs so when it comes to heroes there's doctors there's nurses and then there's the pillow guy yeah yeah what have you learned from mike lindell he's a true blue water red working american man which which co which color blue blue and true he's a blue and true red-blooded white man that he's you know got them all in there yeah yeah or people started talking about racism in a way that you'd never expected or you have the debt collector moment you like all these things come out you're not going to read that in an article uh which is what is so fun about those moments well after the break we need to talk about what i believe is probably your biggest moment of improv in which you didn't use any of the prep that you went down there with and that was the january 6 insurrection excuse me freedom rally fun time good time moment from january 6th i wanted kisses it was hugs yeah the donald j trump hugs and kisses event from january 6. i want to talk about that day and just i it's all insurrection after this we're going to go beyond the scenes in a minute let's talk about the insurrection january 6 you wake up sunny sky you hop on your amtrak is sella from new york penn station and you're mostly on down to washington dc when did you know this day was going to go to [ __ ] uh i would say 2019 maybe uh like by comparison you went to the million mega march yes their number is not ours [Laughter] i will say but that is i think we so we went to the quote unquote million manga march the 30 thousand manga march oh lovely december right yes early december december uh they were talking about this there i mean january 6 was on the calendar back then and they were angry at the millionaire march they were chasing us down alleys uh three security cards needed situation uh so i think we knew january 6 was going to be dicey we had seen it with the million michael march uh i think i mean what was it was it four security guards we rolled in with burger like we had a lot we rolled in security a game plan with not only like how we're gonna talk to people uh but like where we're gonna talk to people because we did get in trouble a few times at the million-mile march because of location getting caught in a bottleneck with a lot of people who have a lot of anger and no place to aim it and the guy who's from the daily show with the camera is an easy enough spot so we had to be smart about that so i think we walked into that day on the 6th cautious and aware that it was going to be dicey out there and then as soon as we got in our hotel the night before yeah i heard some crazy stuff but you go in and everybody's like dressed for war they're dressed for combat like honestly drove eight hours to dc and a couple is there dress for combat from head to toe three percent badges yeah yeah yeah like we we didn't make these jokes when we rolled into the hotel because we wanted to like go to our rooms but jordan and i were joking were like we should definitely ask them what airplane they jumped out of like a couple be like what kind of airplane did you guys just jump out of look at you guys are badasses it's a lot of military outfits but not a lot of military personnel uh i will also say the other thing the night before you get to hotel we hadn't we'd been in so few hotels because of covet in the last year and everybody's nervous about it rightfully so we arrive massed up and it's clear we are we're perhaps from the other side because we're actually wearing masks you and your foundry you found you the whole the whole place is teeming with people there's all the bars are shut down i don't want to make this all about drinking but occasionally you have a drink the night before uh the one place that sells drinks is the bar that's in the hotel but they won't let you sit but you can buy drink and come up to your room but there are just people hanging out in their fatigues their maga gear not six feet apart all throughout the lobby like you're walking through a throng of people angrily trying to get budweiser uh disre no masks stepping out and you see the hotel staff even just nervous there and we're sort of like this is already has an energy of people who are like we don't care we're not going back up to our rooms we're not putting on mass we're not separated we're hanging out in this lobby we're drinking booze and we're talking about what's gonna happen tomorrow so you could feel that energy i mean i imagine i must have waited 15 minutes to try to get an elevator to go up alone and have so many awkward conversations let's go let's go come on in come on in i'm like i'm gonna i'm gonna wait for that accelerator you know if you don't mind and then the next morning we kind of assemble in the lobby with you know meet jordan get him miked up get cameras ready to go because like we kind of just walk out the door and we're ready to start shooting usually that's because you never know there might be something on the street and like people are you know so angry and like aggro then and i'm like we're not shooting anything in the lobby or near our hotel we're gonna start walking to the trump rally he had an actual rally in the ellipses and we stopped to laugh but didn't actually shoot this because we were kind of hustling there were all these maga people taking selfies with this quote on a wall and a quote about the first amendment they love it they love the first amendment get my picture there they didn't realize the wall was part of the newseum a museum dedicated to the institution they hate the most so there was like group after group taking pictures of themselves in front of the museum r.i.p new zealand by the way i know all right it was great we found ourselves though from there we're like we're then like trudging to the speech and there is just this wild line down pennsylvania avenue to try to get to this speech where again we're we're being cautious about what we shoot at the time because people are not in good moods we don't want to start an issue this early in the morning and so we kind of all just this giant line of manga folks and incognito media just trudging the way towards the white house i was being a giant [ __ ] is what jordan's saying i was like don't interview anybody yeah don't ever remember about it yet so burger your plan basically went from prepping well what type of conversations do we want to have to where is the safest place to even [ __ ] stand still for 30 minutes jordan where was the safest place to sit you'd be surprised we literally the safest place for us to stand was outside the museum of african-american history uh no joke we're walking around thousands and thousands you're welcome there we go see thank you roy thank you is that is that i should be thanking you hilariously it was the one area where there was space people weren't congregated it was not open but we could go up and be around that area and away from the throngs of folks outside of the white house cheering on mr donald trump at the time okay berger did a great job with this and honestly it is true you're constantly balancing like the energy of that day and it's it's a scary day people people are people are saying it's really scary stuff as you're walking through it i do love to get out there and i want to interview and talk to folks but you got to be really careful you can be smart about it until like burger's constantly balancing like yes we need to talk to people but we also need to talk to multiple people over the course of the day and if you talk to one person who freaks on you and a bunch of people chase you down then that that's it we need to be safe first so the day more than any other field piece we ever shot had so much internal calculations about what we actually can shoot and when okay burger to that point then at what point did you start to feel oh [ __ ] like it you know it could be bad it could be dicey but when did you feel confirmation this [ __ ] is the worst maybe we should think about leaving well i think yeah i think we i kind of didn't want to get too into the crowd at the trump rally because we got too into the crowd at the trump rally that crowd needed to do a 180 and then walk back to the capitol and we knew that the capital is where the action was gonna happen like even in december as jordan said these guys were like we're going to the capitol and i was like we have to be there when they arrive because if we're behind the crowd we'll be ten thousand people away so we started walking away from the trump rally towards the capitol and the crowd thinned out so in a way for a while we're like this is all right that's pretty chill there's no one yelling at us we're just slowly walking to the capitol we get to the capitol kind of ahead of i would say 99 of the crowd and as soon as we get there the proud boys walk by which is always a cheerful experience and then yes and then we're gonna do a stand up and i think jordan was like oh my god they're knocking the fence down and we're like oh that's right there we saw them knock the first fence down and we're like okay this is just gonna get so much worse from here on out broad boys are here as we were setting up for a quick stand up we noticed another large group marching aggressively down the street the proud boys all passed by again we settled in a spot just outside the northwest side of the capitol because we knew that at around 1pm that angry crowd would be arriving there from the white house and we knew that if things got hairy it gave us the best escape route to the train in our cars and then words became actions the barricades got pushed over and folks flooded in we're starting to see this massive people they broke through the gates here and now they're heading into the the capitol i'm hearing people say it's our house i heard some old man start screaming forward forward it's our house it's a democracy should look more uh organized than what we're seeing right now but we've been organized you have to do something else because they don't do it properly good good jordan's kept walking backwards close to the capitol and say i don't know if we need to let's make a joke here let's do it here that's like because when did viacom call that's the bigger question when did they start texting when did the wives where are your wives at this point oh my god my well first of all my wife who is the best i love her dearly favorite person in the whole world when i was coming home after the flashbangs and people were inside i i had all these text messages from friends were like i heard you were there what's going on are you okay are you okay are you okay and i called my wife to be like i'm okay and she's like what are you talking about i'm like are you watching are you watching the news she's like i don't know what you're talking about no i'm just i'm busy are you so much you're doing your work what can you let me do this i'm like there's they're inside the capitol right now there's an insurrection going on she's like really so like so she was a little less to it i will say she was not as interested in the events of that day uh as i was or even the one like high school friend who i haven't talked to in 12 years who was like i'm going to i'm going to check in on jordan today he he ted beat out my wife at that point as far as interest and care goes but that's what parenting does bro parenting you're gone she's there with the boy and you call her and she's like i have a child i'm doing mom stuff just whatever this kid has a bright future ahead of him you already made your choices you've got half your life behind you i can't worry about you today did you get the alarm to leave burger did that come down from corporate so no we were shooting and jordan and i were basically like this is getting bad and our one our security guys was like you know you're okay here the thing i fear is if if capital police react in force and this mob turns around to run you're going to get trampled the capital police this is the tragedy of that day it took forever for national guard and reinforcements to show up so that didn't happen but they were like you guys should wrap up very soon and we had a train to get out of town so we were like we're gonna do one more stand up and jordan did this stand up and on the fly flashbang grenades go off and he you know totally unscripted two camera references it and i was like that's perfect let's get the hell out of here and security had a they kind of had a path for us to get out of the crowd and we started leaving and then in their earpiece they heard over the police chatter they're like oh people are inside the building right now you should definitely get out of here so then we hustled out of town the trump presidency was going to come to an end this this seems fitting a show of aggression ending with a bunch of people screaming at a building without a working understanding of how democracy works america 20 21. thunder cannon tear gas let's not wait to find out and we knew it was time to leave did you all see any other news outlets that you what was the feeling you know like in those war movies were like the like the beat up marines pass by a van with the beat up army people and the battle's over and they just both give each other a slight salute like hey we survived did you see any of the members of the media was there any time to even sit and talk with them at all not that day no i think that day i mean you're you're passing by people as everybody's trying to catch what's going on um i would say my experience leaving though was surreal in that like uh i took a car out of uh you know essentially coveted safety and sometimes being on the train can be you know there's sometimes issues there as well so i drove down and i i drove back but so my four-hour drive back to new york i was just listening to serious radio cnn or msnbc or one of the news outlets just their live stream of what was going on and so i i had a four hour drive alone up the american east coast listening to the sound of these broadcasters like witness in insurrection and the fall of the capitol in a way that was yeah like it was incredibly surreal and haunting and you know we make a lot of jokes about this and and it was it was such a sad day and a ridiculous day i i like you have to almost live with the duality of of america in that moment where like we're watching this sacred building this building that i used to come down as a kid my parents we didn't take many vacations we went to dc we learned about the important monuments and the the the great history of our country you're watching it be desecrated you're watching people say awful horrendous things about other american citizens and at the same time you're watching a man on a segway try to drive up and uh overthrow the strongest government on earth can can i ask you some questions are you afraid if you run out of batteries for the last stand then you'll be thwarted good luck i hope you don't run into bumpy terrain or stairs it's ridiculous and it's it's sad and it's both of those things and i felt like all throughout that day you're constantly confronted with this of it being the worst day and also the most ridiculous day at the same time yeah you had you had that tragedy of your drive out i had to sit behind these two white women drinking rose on the train in front of me and they were actually where they took part in the interaction they had all their maggot gear on and they're actually having a conversation about can you believe all the crime in the cities these days it's like you committed the crime you went to the city and were part of the crime and now you're like look at those people in the cities democrats and minorities commit lots of crime you're it's you they got off in wilmington delaware if you want to find them to susie and patty in wilmington thank you so much for listening i'm sure they're listening right now after the break i want to talk with you all about some of the more interesting characters over the time that you've gone into the maga verse this is beyond the scenes we'll be right back berger clipper who have been some of the more memorable people that you all have met on the campaign trail out there i think we have a lot of we have a lot of fun characters i i think it runs the gamut from you know characters who are infuriating to the the lovable characters the characters you see multiple times burger and i laugh about someone who stood out to us i think a lot about on that day january 6 was a man who was wielding a pitchfork which would seem like the most aggro hysterical man there on the january 6th as we were approaching him to talk he was interrupted by another man who was screaming obscenities who was even more hysterical than the pitchfork guy we found filming on the national mall was a safer more effective way to get real conversations for a while then we found a man acting unhinged with a pitchfork this is a warning we can mobilize a million people to any city in this country now make no mistake that's the situation that's right man we're not playing around who was interrupted by a man acting more unhinged how come we got a million people at the monument when over there's where they're screwing us how come nobody's over there how come we're not done you all come down here and film congress the really unhinged guy angered the sort of unhinge guy wielding the pitchfork i'll speak to myself okay he speaks for himself like the pitchfork guy looked at the other hysterical man it was like i'm not with that crazy i'm not with that you're like i'm not with you i mean i am i feel like i will be in the capital with him shortly we literally had to get away from the more hysterical man and take the pitchfork guy to a separate area where we could calm down and hear the political thoughts let's have a good time we need some space have a rational conversation sir can you hold the pitchfork up a little higher yes it doesn't read that way that guy was amazing when hershey pennsylvania this guy came over to me he's like i want to be on camera i was like sure he's like i got a rap song i was like all right this could be like something for credits and then jordan starts talking to him and then you notice something yeah he he was he had a he made his own shirt and on the back of the shirt it had uh the next seven presidents or what he thought was donald trump donald trump jr ivanka eric et cetera et cetera why are you here well because two weeks ago i had a dream and in that dream i was given this vision you had a screen printing dream your dream told you that trump is gonna win and then ivanka and then don jr and eric tiffany is going to win in 2048 and then barron great all right uh but barron only serves one turn i know two terms no that's only one term that's four years yeah actually these are mostly one-term presidents oh you're right you're not reading it right brother no i'm like 20 no this is 20 24 to 28 that's four years and then another four no no no that's these are one-term presidents ivanka one term done junior one term for ivanka what sort of what's a date ivanka is 2024 2028 that's eight years that's four years no honestly i i found him delightful in that he didn't get he didn't get angry with me he got frustrated and we but you realize this is what it feels like often times at a trump rally it's like you're looking at numbers and one of you sees one thing and another person sees a totally different thing i will say i will give credit to the fans of the daily show that piece tickles me whenever i watch it but people have pointed out the thing that i didn't see uh as we were talking to him was he misspelled america at the bottom so kudos to the daily show fans for pointing out probably the the biggest irony that was on that shirt that i wasn't genius enough to catch are you ever worried about punching down in a situation like that like where granted you were kind of discovering this all in the moment so it's not the same as something a little more premeditated but i when you're having these discussions with people that clearly have not put all have not connected all of the dots are you ever worried about how you're perceived in your interactions with them sure i mean i think with the daily show it's important not to punch down i think you always want to hold you know look to those in power and challenge them i think when you go to these rallies you have to be careful there are people that we talk to that we don't put in these pieces because it does feel like it's going over the edge or it feels like they don't have their faculties about them in a way that felt like we're just making fun of them for that uh that being said i also think these have been odd trying times and i think the uh the vigor and some of the vile of the masses are what propelled the guy in charge to make some of these decisions and i think they could be easily swayed by some of this this hateful rhetoric and so i i feel like it's fair to push them on some of these things that have led to led to some pretty disgusting things in our uh in our last few years and so i think you have to constantly have that conversation let's not just poke fun of what they're wearing we could maybe have some fun around that uh but let's try to get to the the source of it the thing that always interests me is i think i've said this before but i think like contradiction is so fascinating to me because i think it's it exposes the lie that you're telling yourself and more often than not you see these people thinking through things for the first time holding these two opinions that are contradictory uh and me putting them right up against one another and i think it really is often at its best revelatory of of a whole swath of the population who thinks these multiple things that uh maybe don't totally add up but think them all at once and i think we're able to kind of to give context to that away uh when when we find success with it yeah i think we're i think jordan raised a good point like we want to be respectful and we're grateful these people have talked to us although i think we want to make a special shout out to anyone on january 6 who went into the capitol building we have noticed some of the people that we've talked to at past rallies have now popped up uh somebody we talked to at one of the early rallies popped up and is facing charges because he brought uh weapons into the capital that day and so i think like sometimes there is criticism like oh these are just these are just folks and their ideas and they're maybe a little bit misguided these are people bringing guns into the capital trying to overthrow the government and so it is uh sometimes it's tough to wrap your head around i feel like to a degree there is something with regards to accountability you voted for a man that did the things that [ __ ] up all these people's lives in all of these different ways but i sometimes find myself feeling a sense of pity towards some of the trump supporters who just you just bought the lie berger how do you think the trump supporter has changed over the last year yeah i i i think well he lost the election so he obviously lost a bunch of supporters and that's a big difference between 2020 and 2016 and the people he lost are people who are i want to say more rational obviously and so those people you encountered less frequently at the recent rallies and then i would say kind of what sticks with us the most recent event things we went to were the one in december and the one in january and that self-selected group of very angry very you know unfriendly people so that's kind of like right it's hard for it's hard for me to have sympathy for the people we talked to on those days because they were threatening the i walked out of the hotel on on december 6th and made eye contact this woman we smiled at each other it's morning i'm going to get a cup of coffee and then my eyes look down and she has kyle rittenhouse did nothing wrong t-shirt so it's like yeah i can't talk to i can't see you i can't talk to you like there's a there's a lot of that still and yeah i agree these people were misguided and led astray and i hope that if he fizzles out they'll come back the thing i empathize most with is like i think humans need to feel like they belong and they need to feel like they have a purpose and so i get it initially this felt like you could join the team you could go to a rally and it felt like uh you know college football or any other tribe that you could be a part of you're here and guess what you're not only here a part of this team you're doing something important you're saving our democracy you're saving america so now boom you you belong to something and you have meaning i think those are powerful things and honestly it's something i search for i think all humans search for that i totally get i think like what has become frustrating is that like the evolution of it is like you can throw more chaos on there everybody's still so bought into the team ian brings up a good point he did lose people have shifted over so it's not the same team but those that we talked to who are still die-hard trump stuff there's not a new thing with trump that's going to come on that are going to make them change they've they bought the lie they bought the team this the last one we went to it was a mike lindell event and i think what was fascinating to me about that event was the mr my pillow was how quickly how quickly they gave mike lindell the status they gave donald trump the people we talked to there saw him as like a savior they said he sees it like i see it he speaks the truth he has the guts to say the way they talked about him was as if he's been on the scene for decades speaking truth fighting for the good fight like this guy sells pillows and he's gotten into politics in the last few months but you're giving him all the credit of a savior what is mike lindell talking about that you agree with well just the whole fraud of the election he's got the proof you know the proof is there what makes you know that trump won his own department of justice says there was no fraud just well so you don't trust the department of justice oh no you trust my pillow guy well i wouldn't go quite that far to say you know i trust what he's saying you do you trust what he say yeah oh so you would yeah you would go that far yeah that's exactly where you're at yeah yeah they need a god to tell them what is right and what is wrong and that they are a victim and that if they stick to the the good side of things they will be they will be righted and righteous and i think like that didn't leave and it was a little bit scary to see how quick you could sub in a [ __ ] pillow salesman and he got all the credit that they gave somebody else who at least had a career uh decades of uh debauchery and asshole-ishness to to rely on jordan but as you said that my pillow guy event it was certainly it was hysterical how they latched on to him and they're like he's he's a great patriot he he speaks the truth it's like he's he literally just advertised his pillow um but the nature of that event wasn't hostile it was people who are like it's a town it's a fair and there's nothing else coming through this town this month that i want to go to so i'll go to that thing and put on my maggot clothes again yeah you know like they all still have the clothes if somebody's going to invite you to come to the costume party they're all like i'm going to win that costume part if trump is reinstated in 2021 do you think that democrats will accept it and allow our nation to heal i think there's going to be a lot of whining still yeah they're just not going to let go they're gonna be whining in a field months after everything's already decided anyway are you excited about being out here in the field to watch trump on a jumbotron is he gonna be on the jumbotron we don't even know who knows i think it's parades it's always like if a parade comes to your town you show up and i think more often than not that trump rally is a parade so people are gonna keep showing up so then what's next for trump supporters do they still have some leverage in the republican party or is this just political cosplay akin to civil war reenactment for the next couple of years until i guess it all dies dies away i mean i think i think the storyline is the republican party has crumbled and is is is so desperate to be loved by that minority of the population that is all in on maga like yeah sadly they have a i think they have a ton of power i think you see it with kevin mccarthy you you see him bending over backwards to perpetuate the big lie to try to make these folks happy and not mad at him and i think that's what's i think that's what's so sad and what's so so scary is that what has been passed on is like this is how you chum the waters to get these folks on your side and so i think trump can leave but they're still using the chum the waters uh tactic to get people on their side so yeah those the supporters hold power again they're not the majority of people uh they're they're a minority but the the democracy has been crafted around a way in which they have an outsized voice and you have craven politicians who are going to try to to utilize that however they can and so so sadly i don't think it's just a laughable thing of like oh this is going to fade away i think it's still such a potent part that's that is quite literally pushing and controlling the the narrative of that whole party so what i'm hearing from you clapper is that you and burger will continue to go into the magaverse for as long as there is one is that what's next for you two healthcare sustained right yeah yeah i think ian and i have always been donald trump thank you wow thank you tom thank you mr trump healthcare clipper i know you'll just start drawing everybody is like what is his healthcare plan he hasn't he said he has one what is it guys this is the healthcare plan thank you good to employ satirists for a long time [Laughter] that's amazing no i think the the as jordan said this there will be events and for there are always events but there will be events that gather this group of people that are essentially a trump rally but a little bit about something else critical race theory outrage um anti-mask outrage anti-vaxx events it's that's gathering the same people using the same mechanisms like it's probably even using the same facebook group so it's like this is the trump mag group in huntington beach we're doing this thing and everyone who's part of the huntington beach trump mega group will come to the anti-vaccine thing so he may not be there physically it didn't matter they all went to the mike lindell thing he wasn't there i think trumpism is around for the next four years i think we don't need to chase the trumpism but we're curious to continually uh at least track the conversation and see uh where they're at so that's that's where we'll be heading well gentlemen i can't thank you enough for putting your lives on the line repeatedly in the name of comedy while i get to kick it in an air-conditioned building with trevor noah that must be real nice roy but it's be real real nice i can't relate i've been doing zoom chats because of cover last dangerous world of zoom we're gonna get back out there you and me together all right bone brothers we're gonna hit it up one more time i never have more fun than when i'm out on a field piece with you and that is a fact full stop the cop one the bone brothers joint and then the thing with clyburn the people like what is bone brothers you just you got to google that google it everybody 100 yeah honestly we we have so much fun for the daily show nerds out there it is so much fun to have two correspondents going out and playing around and you you are just the best out there and so much fun to play with so in a different world where covet didn't happen and a left became a right i think we were hoping to do some more figure the pulses where you and i could have hit the campaign trail and and and had that experience a little bit more so still can yeah we still can there's still time bro 2022 he is daily show field producer ian berger and he is the second most risk-taking correspondent in the history of the daily show he is jordan klepper i'll take it number one is ronnie chang he ate a full stick of butter on live television that is pretty good ronnie you you're not in iowa anymore you don't you don't have to eat that i know i i can't stop eating fried butter i respect everything you did but ronnie chang ate a stick of butter i i i get that you know what i would not eat a steak of butter that to me i know you were there where you know the insurrection was pretty bad but i don't know if you've ever just eaten a stick of fried butter before you know what i'm from the midwest yes i have boys thank you all thank you roy thanks roy [Music] one

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Length: 53min 24sec (3204 seconds)

Published: Tue Aug 17 2021