We Need to Talk About Karens - Beyond The Scenes | The Daily Show

hey what's up welcome back to beyond the scenes i'm roy wood jr now people have asked me to explain this podcast you remember growing up as a child and your mom would drop you off at your grandma's house for the summer because she didn't want to have [ __ ] else to do with you for two three months during the summer vacation and your grandma would be making cake in the cake batter and she'd have a mixer and you know the mixer and it'd go around and he'd get the cake but the cake batter would be dribbling off of those spinny things i don't know what to call but your grandmama go baby you want some cake and you go yes and then she would give you those little spinny things and you would lick the batter it was like extra cake cake that you wasn't even counting on getting you also got that's basically what this podcast is this podcast is the extra drizzle of cake batter off of the spinny mixer thing whatever the hell they're called today on beyond the scenes they're called paddles i didn't know that dulce sloan who i would not introduce i i did not i'm sorry i messed up your intro i'm sorry that's fine we're talking it's a podcast who gives a [ __ ] this isn't tv those are tv rules you can talk whenever you want to the voice you're hearing is correspondent dulce sloane and we dived into a piece on the daily show about the karen dimmick and before we get into our other guests let's just hear a little snippet of that this weekend was the first weekend of summer and you know what that means same thing as every weekend white women were calling 9-1-1 on black people this morning a california woman is facing outrage online after a now viral video shows her allegedly calling police on an eight-year-old black girl selling bottles of water with her mother on a sidewalk she called the police on an eight-year-old little girl you could hide all you want yeah and illegally selling water without a permit the woman identified as alison edel now being dubbed on social media as permit patty this comes after several widely reported instances of white people calling the police on african americans who are living their everyday life so joining us to talk a little bit more about this epidemic of white people calling the police on black people who really wasn't doing nothing is daily show writer josh johnson and of course my wonderful wonderful friend dulce sloan fellow daily show correspondent josh did you know that it was called paddles uh no but i i i had a feeling it was something like that i wouldn't have called it a paddle it don't look like a paddle why not spin yeah spinner spindle yeah i mean whoever came up with the paddle is no fun i hear you uh some people do call them blades like in the mixer but they're they're more paddlies they're more uh you i lick it i don't want to think of it as a blade you know exactly yeah see that's the thing they'll say i still think the analogy flies the daily show on comedy central that's the cake that's what you get on a regular basis you can count on that but this podcast this is the extra drizzle the drizzle yeah i mean no matter what oh for the spinning things they're gonna be very high so the drizzle we're talking about today delicious i think is the word you were looking for josh not glucose um the care endemic and everything that's been happening you know can you basically i'll let you define this for me they'll say for the people who don't know what is a quote karen it is any white woman that is weaponizing her privilege also in weaponizing victimhood is what a karen is for me so not every white woman is a karen but every white woman can be a karen kind of like you know all squares are rectangles but not all rectangles or squares same context yes it took me a second from alabama public schools but yes yeah i also went to school in louisiana and it was um i went to school in gwinnett county in north cross georgia and so i don't know what was going on with y'all was that but uh yeah the education at all i mean i went to school in the second county in the state so i hear it when you think about the art of quote caring like i guess one that one of the biggest profile incidents was amy cooper and the bird watching situation where a black dude asked a white woman could you put your dog on alicia in a bird park you ain't supposed to have the dog off the leash and she threatened to call the police knowing that the police threatening the police on a black person could be a death sentence and so there was this weaponization of her own victimhood to make him look but thankfully the camera phone yo the camera phone where would we be right now without the camera phone i want to find 4k camera phones now it's like it's one of those things where you almost feel like black people should just have body cams all the time as opposed to my own ones the police you know i own one i can't pull the footage off of it though because it's only windows compatible and i have a mac but like no lie i it's one of the first body cam i legit have a body i used to wear it i used to wear walking around new york city on a regular basis just in case you never know which like that that's and i think that's part of the issue with with this care endemic in terms of people calling the police on black people who aren't doing anything so i know that we had a segment where we basically set up a different form of 9-1-1 that was specifically for white people what was the arc and the point of that piece i think it was like one of the first things were like the first sketches i filmed on for the show when i got there i think um because i don't even think i've been there a year so basically the point of the 9-1-1 sketch is getting a 9-1-1 operator that's going to filter out all of the [ __ ] calls of white people just trying to call the cops on black people and one of my favorite lines from it is uh i think it might have been one of the writers calling and i think it might have been devin devin trey de la quantity and uh and uh he was um he called it was like oh these black people on the train and they're being loud and so my response was so let me get this straight there's black people on the train just talking to each other and he's like well yeah and he's like okay that's what i need you to do here's what i need you to do stand up walk to the window and throw your [ __ ] ass off that train no he's just walking down the sidewalk but it feels threatening girl back i know sometimes operators be getting them calls it's like by law they can't hang up but there's got to be sometimes you're like [ __ ] you ain't got nothing else better to do today than to call the cops on your neighbors for something oh they're cut their their car is on my property line you're like okay why and then also why are you sending somebody with a gun to a property line dispute when you all created this this piece josh and dolce did you all realize at the time that this was going to be because do you saying that you you all did this it's one of the first things you did i think you've been with the show i think coming up on three years maybe crossing that line before uh it's for i've been the show since 2017. okay yeah so yeah so we turned the corner on four years so four years ago when you all did this piece did you think it would be one of those ones that would be so evergreen that it could keep just floating back up to the top of the news cycle with relevancy yes i mean yeah i think so you honestly we had to fight for as many examples as we use because we have we have ones that just didn't even make it that's how many examples joke-wise we had so it was like oh it's never going to go away you know like i think if we had been struggling to come up with examples that would have been like all right we'll see if this pans out if this resonates with anybody but the fact that we probably had another you know maybe even like minute and a half of jokes is like yeah there's there's plenty of uh of instances to go around and plus i think that it speaks to a larger thing of of how sometimes it's it's like the amy cooper thing where it's just a uh a flex like it's just someone trying to exercise power over another person i've seen some instances that were just as ridiculous like the guy there was like a guy at a store that was trying to use a coupon and the the person didn't want to take their coupon but the coupon was from the store it was like it wasn't like it wasn't like a coupon that could have been counterfeited it's like if you walk in it's like your store's logo on this coupon but they didn't want to take it for some reason it also wouldn't have made the product free they just didn't want to take the coupon and so the person was like nah this is pretty wild so i'm just gonna stand here in line until you take this coupon because why like why you can't give me a reason and then they decided to call the cops in like never mind if you're fourth in line because now you've been waiting for a while because nobody's budging a cvs manager captured on cell phone video in chicago as he calls 911 because of a coupon controversy african-american black no i'm not african-american i'm black black isn't a bad word the man calls the police on a black customer attempting to use the coupon scene here they never tried to process the coupon they never scanned it you can tell where i don't know and maybe i'm being a bit naive but like you can tell with especially as far as they've taken the situation i think that that clerk was actually getting fearful not even of the black person just of how far they had taken it because they're now calling the police realizing like wow i'm calling the police instead of just taking this coupon because i got in a spat with a customer like and then they're recording me because that's the other kind of backlash now to sort of care endemic all the stuff is that like now you're seeing where people that are having like a karen moment are realizing they're on camera and with all the examples of how that's gone for other people are now like oh like should i double down now or should i back off or what should i do and i think that that that's another huge aspect that's probably the only aspect that i don't fully think was covered in the in the sketch because i think now it's getting to the point where if a person ends up on the news the next day you know in an interview on like daytime uh news or something about how the police were called on them while they were just living their life it shouldn't just be the black person it should be the black person and the person they call they should sit next to each other and be like so why did you yeah cause they recently just had i can't remember where it was but it was like a black realtor was showing a black man and his son a house and they all ended up in handcuffs yeah because the neighbors thought that they were burglars who meet in the front yard and then yeah they couldn't bucklers brought them out at gunpoint one by one empty [ __ ] was the house empty i don't know it was a home showing either way it i'm the realtor how do you not know um it's doubly offensive because it's not only do they think we're criminals but they think we're bad at crime like it's the day it's the middle of the day but also [ __ ] them cops that arrested them because all he had to say was here's my real like realtors have business cards and websites and licenses and [ __ ] so i to do it was like what are y'all doing here here's a real estate portfolio i'm showing them how did they end up in it's like it had to be they just busted in the house and you just grabbed people and arrested them and didn't ask any questions you just get arrested and they're like oh oh okay all right i see what we could have done here i i see what could have ha we're sorry no [ __ ] i'm getting on cnn i'm getting on msnbc i'm gonna be on g i'm meeting huda is what the [ __ ] i'm gonna do i'm meeting hooter i'm gonna get me a free house and then minorities report because we can kind of put these in the same burrito minorities report was where we basically parried the top parodied the tom cruise movie where the police arrest you for crimes you haven't committed yet because they can predict the future so you're arrested for future crimes so it was me running around new york city slapping phones out of white people's hands who were getting ready to call the police on black people because i had the precognition to know what was going have you got on location park off riverside white woman's gonna call the cops and say that the black guy was trying to sell drugs he's just trying to read the newspaper i'll send the team there's no time i'm going myself you need a jacket what's the germination of that idea like where does that start germination it's a good word yeah that's alabama public schools you're welcome yeah it has to do with farming so you wouldn't know that term kiss my ass go ahead josh uh you know i think that from pitch to actual production what ends up happening is that there's an overall idea like what if this thing happened that that usually at least in the voice of the show is something that's more universal than just the face value experience or like the the the hot take on twitter it's like you know this this calling the police on black people who aren't doing anything also ends terribly for the white people so how do we how do we save everybody and that's that's also kind of how that minorities report came about because it was like in this in the sketch you're not just showing them the light of like this person isn't bothering anybody they're not doing anything don't call the police but you're also like you were about to mess up your day like like you were about to be trending all right because that's just a dude and unemployed more than likely yeah yeah i do wonder it's like it i think they don't all lose their job like that's the thing we're talking about like karen demick and all this other stuff it's like they ain't doing nothing new you know now we just got phones on it they've been doing this to us since the phone got invented and then before that you know they was calling out all kind of sheriffs and whoever to come they they've always been calling the authorities on us whether you have to get you know somebody to paul revere the [ __ ] to go down a horse and go get the cops we've always been chased by the police like period and there's always been white people sticking the police on us that was the original point of the police wasn't it there was some slave catchery yes there was some the original germination i do believe but whenever i hear that i'm always i'm also like well wait they've also we've also had law enforcement for a long time so it's like a half it's like you know it's two things you needed you know enforcement of laws and enforcement of slavery so we put them together and now we have cops so this them calling the cops on us isn't new they've been doing this before the phone was invented now it's just faster to do it because if the police are trained to think that we're inherently dangerous just as a people and the american public knows that the police are trained to think that we're inherently dangerous so you as a white person know that when i want to assert my authority over a black person usually when i'm wrong i can just say i'm going to call the cops because you always have backup because you can always call the police so it doesn't matter statistics say that the cop is for sure gonna show up and take her aside right so okay but like if i called the cops on a black man or another black woman the police get there and they're just like well we you're both [ __ ] criminals like who do we who do we believe now they don't know who to trust in the situation because there's two black people standing there and you're like ah can we just send them both to jail so that's the whole like i have no idea they're gonna flip a coin they're gonna flip a coin i'm saying no but i called you so there's no inherent i never have any other course of action when i'm in a dangerous situation because i know the police there's literally examples of the police coming and then shooting the wrong person or resting the wrong person so there's nothing they're not doing anything new they've all been trained like we've all been trained and taught that if a white person calls the police the police are always going to come and they know that it's just a way to keep us in line do you think that there's and i don't i don't know quite how to ask this question josh but is making jokes about this drawing attention to them in a bad way i mean i don't think so because i i think that for okay for the people that know what's happening it's a way to talk about it that isn't just the the the level that's a bummer like it's it's the it's the shared experience where it's like yes you're not alone this happened to be too or this could happen to any of us or or anything like that and then i think that for the people who don't fully understand that it's a thing it raises awareness and attention because they're initially coming to like let's say you've lived a very just insulated life with just like you know white people around you and then some something like uh the amy cooper on camera happens and it's like okay that's like clearly messed up because she she specifically says i'm going to call them and tell them a black man is threatening my life a black man that's like very far away from her that is not like trying to attack her or anything so she tells this person to his face on camera doesn't care and i and we both know what's going to happen next and so i think that most people especially any good faith actor in an argument can't deny what's happening in that in that video but i also think that talking about things in in a in a different way from just the straight like news presentational this thing happened give gains perspective and i don't think it i don't think it takes away from how serious it is but i also think that it's it's important to like when you joke about anything it's like there are varying degrees of seriousness and then depending on how dark a joke is might then make people realize how serious the situation is okay so after the break i want to talk about the levels of this whole this whole world and why in the last four or five years probably because of trump did this [ __ ] start happening all the damn time did i do that right they'll say i was trying to snap on the all the damn time there we go beyond the scenes we'll be right back josh you said something that i i have to politely i don't know if it's pushback i'm going to present a different perspective on you talk about how when people are in the moment if a white person has made the call and what was once a one-on-one battle with a black customer turns into oh my god the camera's at me oh my god this is live stream oh my god the police are here what do i do and sometimes they back down right but i have a small bit of respect for the white people who double down and go extra races in that moment i don't know if y'all saw the there was there's been a bunch of motel incidents where the black motel clerk is getting verbally abused by white customer for whatever reason right and then the black clerk picks up the camera phone to protect themselves and then the white customer just starts giving the camera phone the middle finger i know i should not laugh but that [ __ ] makes me smile so hard when i see somebody just go yeah i'm racist and let's go let's go on the journey why do you all think and don't say i'll start with you what do you all think in the last five or six years there's been this explosion of the weaponization of the police against black people um i don't know like i always think of when it comes to stuff like this it's i always think of there's a line just as an odd reference but there's a line from a ti song where he says it's not what you did the question is who saw oh deep prose from clifford harris i mean truly i don't know if it's more than it was before i just feel like it's i'm seeing it more because like i wonder if you know are there more incidents of the police shooting unarmed black people or is it just being recorded more because i feel like because it's like if we're talking about the number of incidents going up maybe because of trump with white people acting fool i feel like that the number of incidents upon our black people getting shot went up when obama became president is how i really feel about it so i was just mad that this black man was out here so you're like well i can't shoot that one but i can shoot this one josh do you feel like trump or covet added something into the air like the trump was trump the first layer and that covet kind of a bit of a double down because of economic anxiety and then you had all the proud boy and you had the confederate um all the confederate statues being taken down so it's creating all this oh no the blacks are coming type anxiety what do you think all of those facts paul revere the blacks are coming the blacks are coming [Laughter] i like that you've been here baby you brought a shirt chuck review where does covet and trump and economic anxiety play into all of this josh i mean i don't know if covet does especially if anything covet helped in that when bad things happen people didn't have anything to do to occupy themselves to ignore it so i think that you can only if you're going to bring the pandemic into it in any way you have to give uh like give i guess give context to the fact that the whole reason there was like a whole nationwide global george floyd protest is because that thing happened and it's not like we had anything else to occupy ourselves with to ignore it whether you were black white anything so everybody saw it everybody talked about it and then protests started happening because one of the things like you know no matter how bad a situation is you you look at the protests in past years and and what made the news in past years and it just is it's not as if george floyd was this new incredibly horrible thing that we all saw it's like yeah we we saw it and it was it was as bad as many other things that have been happening up until that point and i think that if anything that you know a lot of the stats show that not not in a way that means we should take the foot off of the gas of trying to uh address things like qualified immunity and everything but i think that a lot of the altercations and a lot of the stuff is down from where it used to be i think that once again we weren't seeing it but also there were way more attitudes you could just get away with plainly out in the world than you than you could before and so you know i think people want to put it all on trump or they want to put it all on a moment and it's like really the way that i've at least seen the the ticker if you want to look at it like a stock ticker of racism right is that it's still way too high but it's gone down slightly over time by like you know whatever 1 100th of a whatever number i'm making up but at the same time when trump got in office it it saw this spike and and the spike made people think all of this stuff all these attitudes all of these things were coming out of nowhere for the first time ever when really they were just a regression back to you know maybe 15 years ago like not even that long ago and so i think that sure you can you can blame trumpism for a good amount of it because they're they're easily uh you know they they trademarked shirks that were like [ __ ] your feelings it's like it's like they they came to troll they came to be um shitty and they and they came to try to reclaim some of that that thing that that people like to act like doesn't exist and what i mean by that is the same way that amy cooper played her hand because she knew the score so when she said that thing to him to camera she admitted a thing that a lot of people try not to admit which is like what are you talking about the police are on everybody's side if you call the whatever that thing that all that diminished when she said the line that she said the way she said it please don't come close to me please please call the cops please call the cops i'm gonna tell them there's an african-american man threatening my life please tell them whatever you like and i think that with trumpism there's an unspoken thing of trying to get back to a time where you want to act like it's not tribalism you want to act like we're not playing teams but there there was a there was a time where the the white team if you want to put it that way was doing very well unabashedly unapologetically and everything was going the way of the same people who act like they're so threatened now well of course that they feel like they're threatening this because it's these are the same people that think that equality means that they're gonna lose opportunities like just to like kind of ground it for a second like the same people who it's about to be a hard time for mediocre white people in a lot of fields of study and a lot of career paths for diversity hiring and things like that right because of that but it's also it's you're no longer there was an act of choice being made to exclude black people and other people of color but now you stopped doing that so now we're just looking at merit and there's also but also there's also an effort being made because of inherent biases that people have to bring in more people of color also it's the the wild thing about all of this is that when trump got elected all these white people got so confused because they were like well how could this happen how could this happen but i had somebody tell me on a podcast that she thought that the [Music] united states wasn't racist anymore because she saw a black tv show in the 70s that's when she thought racism ended was the 70s right as if rodney king didn't happen in the 90s and all these other things and then there's a bunch of white people that thought that when obama got elected we kept saying we're in a post-racial society and all the black people got going that's not true it's still racist here just because you elected a black president to stop him being racist so when he gets out of office now all these white people are mad so when they're running when they were running in when obama was going to win his second term the republicans kept saying we got to take our country back we got to take our country back who the [ __ ] took it no one stole your country they didn't hop up and steal it black people didn't colonize somewhere you were already at so this whole attitude the reason that all of this is happening now because i can't it's is it higher than it was before i don't know but do these people seem to be bolder than they were before because at least the clan would hide their head and hide their face now these boys ain't even hiding their face no more you see what i'm saying yeah okay clown is trash but there's so now they're so bold you ought to march through a whole town with nothing with nothing covering your head because you want people to know because you bold as hell so how do you go up against people who will march through a city and go yep we are racist destroy the tiki torch industry now nobody can have a well-lit barbecue with a night you know man but the tiki torches behind the behind the pay glass like condoms at cvs we gotta go get a sales associate with the keys right at a lowe's just because i want to have a nice that's just because i don't want no mosquitoes where i have my nighttime barbecue so these people and when i say these people i mean those people um they this is a fallback but the thing that we've been saying as black people in this country is that this [ __ ] is not surprising to us and that's the most frustrating part everything that is happening right now every black person has had some white woman come at them at a [ __ ] store for no reason accuse you of doing something you didn't do get followed in the story this is not new to us all of this stuff that is happening all these people being openly braces and acting wild is not new information to us this is all new information to white people and that's the thing that makes it the most annoying and the most insulting because now they want to act [ __ ] surprised this is y'alls people doing this [ __ ] so then to that point then d and i'll ask this last question before we take a break what's the better plate are we because like are we doing the right thing by like shaming people and turning them into a meme and calling them karen's and all that because when you look at amy cooper right she she went through the whole public shaming and was fired from her job and then she was arrested and charged with filing a false whatever the [ __ ] okay the charges were then dropped because she went through five psycho education i don't know some anti-racism cl whatever it is she she went and took some therapy and they dropped the charges the black dude that she accused wouldn't take part in like actively prosecuting her so in a way he kind of let her off the hook since then amy cooper's come out and said i didn't do a [ __ ] thing wrong he was holding dog treats i thought he was gonna attack my dog and amy cooper then sued her employer saying yeah that was wrong for termination and that's racial discrimination so does this mean nothing's going to change because she's probably the best example of someone who did the wrong was public shame was criminally charged and is now on the other side of all of that [ __ ] going yeah and i'd do it again and i want my job back yeah cause the people that we are looking to to fix this are the same people that are doing wrong she got fired from her job because people were saying stuff about her job the police had to do something but you know there's you can get charges reduced if you go to you know i know it's okay you can either serve this jail time or you can pay this fine or you can serve this jail time or you can go to rehab they always get certain people like traffic classes and all that yeah you take a traffic class we won't knock points off your license you take a dui class you won't lose your license they always give some people options right and other people just send straight to jail you know you'll collect 200 so we can't look to the people who are maintaining the system of her being able to call the cops on that man to then reprimand her how does that even work yeah but i also think that there's there's a you know it to a certain degree it's not my place and it's not uh you know to to drag him at all but i think that we're we're conditioned and taught to really respond to uh any any and every plight that white people have and every white tier that gets dropped and so i think that it's it's a thing of it is kind of just on um on the the guy that she was called the cop saw it's like you should have pressed dude first of all when are you ever gonna get a chance like this because this could happen to you nine times out of ten and those other nine times out of ten you're not gonna get to press charges you're just gonna be glad you left with your life so then you know it's kind of on him for not pressing charges and just sort of giving this weird benefit the doubt to a person he didn't know whose only instance he had an interaction with was something that's terrible then it was on the the goofy uh you know like racial discrimination counselor because when she finished all of that that five classes of training or whatever she took the person went on record saying like it's been a real transformation and i don't care if they're black they're white whatever i you know maybe i'm overstepping but they seem like a like a silly person to think that you you that's a lot of hubris to be operating under to then think that whatever you had to say about race for five hours change someone whether you're black white i don't care what you are whatever you had to say was that groundbreaking it was better than uh malcolm x played by denzel washington directed by spike lee like you think that you changed a person and and to dulce's point it's like people know how to play the playbook if she knew the playbook well enough to know what to say okay this is the game we're playing the game and this is about to this is about to be what happens next and you know it'll be on you if you get killed right because you you were bothering me i want didn't want you to bother me and if she knows the game that well before she did the thing she knows the game well enough to know how to maneuver out of the side so so i i think that we're you know i'm i'm not rooting against any person any type of people or any like i i don't really it's but i i just personally am like i don't know i've i don't those aren't where my motivations are but i do believe in uh retribution and i do believe in justice and and as imperfect as it is i think that when you have the opportunity to get it or to take it that you should because i think that you know even though it's not it it's really he only needs to worry about him and everything i believe his name's christian cooper but i think that the mistake he made is not seeing how it's like this situation has national attention so whatever you do next is gonna play into a narrative it's like like the court of public opinion works the same way as the courts of law where once you set a precedent that precedent is then what gets addressed and what and what gets taken back to when the thing happens again so then the next time there's an amy cooper that same person will be like i'll probably get a slap on the wrist or have to do something where i have to listen to someone i'll just take some racism classes anyway [ __ ] exactly right so so then it's like i think that sometimes as a people when something happens you have a responsibility to your other people and i think that in his sort of uh you know i'm not gonna necessarily accuse him of playing respectability politics but like in his in whatever motivations he had for not pressing charges for not wanting her to be held more accountable i think that he played into a larger narrative i think just for two seconds it's i'm worried that people love us and death threats to people and i'm worried that one of the motivating fact i don't know why he dropped the case but i'm sure he was receiving death threats like truly so i can there had to be other things happening i think for him to or sometimes you just get to a point where you're just like i'm done i'm [ __ ] i'm done they did whatever they're gonna do to this [ __ ] i do agree that he should have pressed charges but i'm i feel like there had to be other things happening for him not to but he's a black man to watch birds all he want is peace right like any [ __ ] could lead a house to go watch birds in new york city he holds peace he don't want to be bothered with his nonsense man just wanted to look at some damn he wanted to see if you know we want to see these wings slap do you think white men are getting off why are there no kens it's always karen's it's always you don't see a lot of kins you see a couple of kids here and there but they don't get a name they don't get the same brand and like say a chad or a becky like a barbecue because it's it's always caring what about the white men don't they deserve some love what are we gonna call them well i feel like that when white men go off they're shooting up some [ __ ] so and they get to be called they're called lone wolves yeah white men going off is way less funny like going postal comes from is if a white man somebody gonna die tonight like when white men pop off because it's like white men aren't gonna be in the situations that will create a caring because at the end of the day when you see these women going off it's what they feel like someone's not respecting their authority it's all a temper tantrum the top of the totem pole is a white man so for a white man to be in a situation where he's not getting what he wants if he keeps going up the chain of command of a business he's gonna hit a white man so he feels satisfied throughout the day so he doesn't feel the need to exert any type of authority over someone lesser than not really as often okay also when white men call the police on you it's very rare that i've heard a white man yell i'm going to call the police on you they just call the [ __ ] police yeah you're just standing here like who the [ __ ] called the cops their scriptures are also way less funny unless their voice is cracking like like it like most videos that you see of like white belt altercations are not hilarious unless they're drunk and fighting unless like like the the thing that makes the karen such a a fascinating thing is because it is like all right you're not taking me seriously but it's like why would i tell you seriously you're being ridiculous well i'm not being ridiculous and you're this this and this and this and so then the freak out is mostly to not just the temper tantrum for me it's also all right it's it's basically to me it's like why aren't you treating me like a white man right now this is so unfair this is the real oppression i'm okay i'm right next to i'm like i'm right next to a white man why can't you treat me like a white man this is terrible this is the real discrimination right here i have one incident of a kin acting like a karen that gives me hope that this issue will change i'll tell you all about it uh after the break i i'm not sure if y'all heard about this one there's two things interesting i want to bring out with regards to kind of the ripple effect of stories like the 9-1-1 for white people which address the issues of white people calling it 9-1-1 so flippantly we had a segment in the field department we were working on that we were originally going to try to do but just the pandemics of it all um it didn't it didn't quite come together but we wanted to talk to real women named karen who deal with being discriminated against because of all of the quote-unquote karen's that are out there um do we is there any sympathy for literal karen's out there or do we just kind of just hey look you just gotta roll with this for right now it's just y'all time kind of like how anybody named chester you know they go chester chester molester or whatever the hell it is you remember that in the south so you can't do real-life cameras just gotta ride the wave like chester's did back in the day they need to talk to the becky's because becky's has always been a turn becky's been a turn around since like what the 80s for these white women so they need to look to the beckies see what the becky's did and then just sit down somewhere becky's were more of uh because karen carries a much more negative connotation than a becky to me a becky as i'd always thought of it was kind of ditzy blonde or it was a very very freaky white woman that likes black men but those were the two that's a crystal okay i didn't know well in alabama becky has two is you know this white girl she uh she's got the i date black dude's hair cut she always keep too many rings on she got a bunch of mixed babies and drives an impala and smokes newport there's the female version of a tyler what i thought that was a kate with the bop with the swoosh over her eyes like only one eye that's the i want to see a manager haircut that's different than the i date black dude's hair so that's a susan no there's a very it because the thing is that i date black dude's haircut is like a white imitation of a black hairstyle yeah it's like t-bone it's like a tlc it's any hair stuff right like hairstyle t-bones would have had uh this is these are your crystals so wha what are all the names y'all y'all learning a lot josh right well there's a tyler we all know tyler's uh you know the cool white boy that always had a fade and was probably on the basketball team white tees were very much his bag he's the only white boy in the crew um but you allow it because you know he's tall to play basketball so yeah he's just the white boy that's always in a random you know just crew of black dudes who plays basketball with them uh and again drives an impala sometimes smoking two ports but would never date a crystal because they would never date each other exactly but he addresses black women as queen yup he's still gonna waste your time he just called you queen to start with so i think that there is hope in terms of how we carry ourselves as a society and i think that pieces like this do affect change there was a story out of i believe this was san francisco if i'm not mistaken yeah san francisco so black guy waiting in front of a building one of them buildings where you got to be buzzed in and call upstairs for the [ __ ] to come down to get you yeah black guy in front of the building waiting for his friend to come down to get him white man and his son come out the building white man turns to black guy and goes why are you standing in front of my building black guy goes i don't have to answer to you white guy calls the police white guy goes through the usual i'm looking at him he appears to be african-american here's our address the man's son who doesn't appear to be more than seven or eight years old starts crying and is begging to the father to let this [ __ ] slide he ain't bothering nobody he's just standing in front of a building there's a trespasser in my building listen to your son yeah [Music] that kid begged and begged his father and his father refused to get off the phone with the cops and then the friend from upstairs appeared and the black guy entered the building and the father had that look that josh was talking about on his face in the video where oh no what have i done oh no that kid gives me hope well but in that moment as a parent your elementary school-aged child is one recognizing this situation and it has and is recognizing the situation more as than you are as a grown-ass man right your child also has the wherewithal and the knowledge of the situation to ask you to not do what you were doing now in this moment when you're continuing to do what you were doing what are you teaching your child are you teaching your child that my authority comes before anything are you teaching him how to be a white man like what are you what is in the in that moment when your child is telling you to stop what are you trying to teach in that moment because you didn't stop well whatever the lesson is the kid didn't get it thankfully this got to be one of them dudes that's just got joint custody this can't be no regular day this ain't regular daddy behavior what any daddy don't daddy behavior any daddy that don't listen to his kid that's joint custody shut up little [ __ ] you don't know anyway police yes you know what the lord has not blessed me with a child yet so and i don't plan to be in any joint custody situation we made these [ __ ] we going to raise them together because it's joint custody because he knows he ain't got to deal with that kid all in his face the rest of the night daddy called the police on a black man he finna go drop him off at his side chick house and get on back to work wow that's a very specific take but yeah i mean i i didn't see it sounds reasonable but my point is it gives me hope and this is here's another statistic that gives me hope in 2020 in the united states there were only just over 300 baby girls named karen out of all of the names of all of the babies i don't know the percentage on that but that's got to be less than one percent of all so what was the percentage the year before then i want to know for one second can you just no i just want to see the pers i'm trying to be positive i'm being positive i want to see the percentage of housing analytical for one second i wanted i like facts and figures i do know that there are non-white karens alma said white there are non-white karens who they also feel like that they have been you know discriminated against but i'm just like but you're the one they would call because like if there's a white woman carrying and they're calling the police on a black karen then there's this black hair and go hey [ __ ] i'm a karen you can't call the cops on me i'm you okay here's your where here's your number since you won the statistic here's your [ __ ] statistic the overall number of new babies named karen in 2019 was 439 in 2020 it dropped to 325 a decline of nearly 26 see i don't know why you had to put it that way but now see and now people got something they could attach it to you know so all of these heifers acting a fool then made people stop naming it their daughters karen or sons i don't know any business uh and it reduced by 26 here's the thing that's really telling about that statistic just by for comparison's sake in 1965 when karen was peak popularity 33 000 people were given that name and when you look at the age of the people that are misbehaving and compare it to 1965 kind of lines up cause they'd be in their 50s yes yeah i mean it does also feel like it just is aging out completely independent of the care endemic i feel how many gladys's do you know ain't no glasses ain't no new clementines ain't nobody getting named yeah it might just be one of those days let's face it out i don't know if we can chalk that up to racial justice i think that that just might be uh people with new tastes because so so google how many women were named ashley in 1965 because or jennifer because we had so many jennifer's at my high school we were all referred to him by last name so maybe josh is right maybe it's just the tip and the scales and the so in 20 years we won't have karen's we gonna have ashley's and jennifer well the most popular baby name in 2020 was olivia so does this mean in about 50 years there's going to be a wave of racist olivias i mean maybe but this is my thing i think that just like the kid that gives you hope a lot of the people coming up now not just because they have only ever lived with the internet but because they actually can can see like through other people's mistakes rapidly on the internet i think that like a good portion of the way that we see things happening now is either gonna shift or chill because it never goes away it's not it's not about going away but i think racist people are gonna find a new thing and i think that the the people who might have leaned on that side of the fence might you know be like and it's not worth that it's not it's not worth me potentially losing my job for harassing a resident of this building that is my neighbor but i don't talk to my neighbor so i have no idea it's like i think that that thing is also gonna wane a bit because even if you know it's a small price to pay overall that like your name is the name that people are clowning for the past like two years it's like all right that you really shouldn't have said anything it's to me the people that like complain about karen being like the chester thing like that really complain about that it's just like you sound weak like like tell me about a real problem i believe you have real problems every single care whatever that that is like oh when you say carry hurt my feet any of that i believe you have real other problems because you're human on planet earth but not this one don't this this makes you look like if your cereal ended stock is over for you like it it's just it's such a non thing or or they are living up to the moniker that was given to them because what is being a karen you know weaponizing weaponizing white privilege so if you're some complaining about oh they're calling people karen's and now it's coming back on me it's victimhood it's all it is well i didn't do i don't know why everybody's so mad at me i didn't even do anything yeah and neither did any other black person born as a [ __ ] black person but i'm always gonna have problems because y'all have decided that i'm lesser than that i'm a [ __ ] problem that you feel the need to ask me what the [ __ ] i'm doing if i'm standing in front of a building what are you doing what are you doing deal with it no one's [ __ ] trying to send you no one's trying to mass incarcerate you no one's trying to not give you a [ __ ] home loan there's too many things that black people have gone through for me to have any sympathy for some [ __ ] sitting up whining about the fact that people are they're making me into a meme the police are killing us because you call them [ __ ] a meme get off the internet like all of this is just like i am not as a black woman i'm not allowed to play victim ever ever i have to be strong to my detriment as a human being so to come up to me and complain or to be on the internet and complain that people are being mean to you because of your name if i marry a black man he could die today i could die if i have black children my brother every black man around me every black person around me is a constant [ __ ] danger anytime the cops roll by and then i still have to deal with every white person that walks in nature i don't know what side they're on also white people aren't the only ones calling the police on us there are also other non-black people non-black people of color also calling the [ __ ] cops on us so it's a free-for-all everybody knows that if you want to control a black person you could threaten them by calling the [ __ ] police and you want to complain to me that people are being mean to you [ __ ] fall downstairs stop it you sound wild and the whole karen thing is yes it's a whiny white woman who the hell wants to it's hysterics and it's all you know that's some it's like oh well you know she's being hysterical she's being you know think about the term the term hysterical comes from a feminine root because there's also the term hysterectomy you see what i'm saying like the root of this is female you're saying that this is something that's inherently in women is this acting a [ __ ] fool and if anyone has been pro to be like white women are the most protected because they're seen as the weakest and they're seen as the weakest because they're the most protected no one's saying the phrase strong white woman that doesn't happen no one's looking to a white woman for advice no one's stopping a white woman in a bathroom to tell them all their problems it's not happening you look to me for that goofy [ __ ] you look to a white woman for a yelp review i look to rachel rayford for recipes sometimes though do you cause that food look dry i mean it is it would be amazing to have more white women in cinema as magical negroes that would be that would be next level to just have a white woman janitor you trying to play football you're not good enough so you think you're gonna quit and then a white one just like oh so you just gonna quit hey you turned around like do i know you i'll i quit once all right and look where i am now what's the title of the movie josh what's her name olivia yes it was rudy so i guess you'd have to go reba i don't know well isn't that just dangerous minds isn't that just dangerous minds we've got to come in and save these black kids you know fight for themselves michelle oh my lord so now we're just calling these [ __ ] phifers they're not magic the magical negro if you replace them with a white woman now they're just phifers is what they are who was in the blind side sandra bullock yep that was that was sandra bullock okay the pirate pfeifers the pied fighters yep yeah the freedom riders you know just cave through that's this is my thing this is this is freedom for the world and what i want to have happen is now i'm starting to see and some of this i've seen in person but some of it you know is it hasn't gone as viral because like um de-escalation is not as fun to watch as escalation but now we're starting to see some karen's really step it up to cancel out other cameras so the situation can even really pop off and and there's no look like the look on a carrot's face when another carrot is like shut up like what like when she comes out of nowhere you're seeing that with a lot of the mask fights in stores now where anti-master gets confronted by someone in a mask so yeah there is a lot of hope out there man i wish we had more time to dig into all of this josh i like your movie pitch let's talk about it offline i think we can get universal to give us 30 million to make pfeiffer the magical pfeiffers yeah something like that the journey of the magical fight i think it could work i think there's not enough um there's not enough representation of strong white women i feel like that if they felt like they had more power they wouldn't be trying to call the cops on people um you know maybe they need to you know talk to the ancestors uh you know look to the ancestors get the strength that they're really looking for in their lives just really you know um i mean now you're sort of pitching a white mulan sort of situation uh moana we're done we're done josh johnson dulce sloan thank you all so much for going beyond the scenes with me and if you want to watch this piece and more of the other pieces that we talk about on this wonderful podcast go to dailyshow.com beyond [Music] you

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Published: Tue Nov 30 2021