Jase's Fight Against Cell Phones | Ep 13

haizao robertson coming to you from the unashamed podcast command center for another episode of unashamed with phil robertson of course we got Jason long as well and I had to tell you today's episode is really something Jase has been doing a lot of preaching lately so he's gonna be center stage talking about cell phones talking about a lot of personal raw stories of things that have impacted him kind of linking back to that Tower of Babel thing that we talked about before so you're in for a treat get ready it's gonna be exciting hold on to something this is a good one so dad I know out of all the things that keep you up late at night are you worried about your VPN never heard of you don't know about your VPN VPN your virtual private network virtual private network you know what what could it mean well you may if the guys that expressvpn warned us that we're being snooped on when every time you go online someone is trying to hack in and get all your privacy and all your information it's just constants yeah which makes sense you hear about it all the time so what these guys that come up with is they call it expressvpn and so basically you go through these guys and they firewall and block your everything's about building the firewall to block out people trying to hack and get your information that's what happens in the virtual computer world where all day this would be nosy neighbors peeping toms yep well I have maybe we'll have one one big flaw I don't care if they have my information it's not that much was when they tracked me down and they finally find out where I am I'm down there on the river and they pull up they're like I don't know I don't I don't know whether he's worth tracking or not so basically you're saying you have your own private network but it's just you know it's right here oh me oh right here out in the open I don't care I'm doing the tracking but if somebody pulled up in your yard without you knowing it which would be difficult and then you looked up and some and somebody was staring through a window at you that you didn't know that's as close to death as he can get like that's that's what this is so in the in the virtual you're trying to bump you off well they're trying to get all your in steals they're trying to steal from you so because I somebody looking in your window saying I'm gonna get overfilled shotguns and I'm you know look ok I'm gonna get this dog and I'm gonna get this that and the other so that in the virtual world that's what they do they come in they get your stuff they hack it they use it for their own benefit so in your world it'd be looking in your window I guess so expressvpn here's how it works so pay attention that it runs in the background to your computer or your phone then you use the internet just like you normally would you download the app click to connect and you're protected what if you don't have a cell phone nor computer like I'd really never used them you're one of the you're one of the 12 people in America that this doesn't affect so I would be harder to track than most people most people yeah exactly I would say impossible what exactly right well there you go so Express VPS the fastest you'll find it cost less than seven dollars a month comes with a 30-day money-back guarantee new cutting-edge technology it's uh it's gonna stop the hackers so we're behind it even dad even though he doesn't know about it he's in our network so here's your call to action protect your online activity today and you can find out hanging it three months free if you go to expressvpn dot-com slash Phil which is always funny to me that there's always a slash Phil who has no idea what we're talking about but Jason I totally get it because you know we go online we have social media so that's Express VPN dot-com slash Phil find out he can get three months free and check these guys out keep people out of your virtual windows trying to get your stuff [Music] what about you so Jase you've been on one of these one of my rods this is how many times have you spoken in the last I did the math 13 times at some organized group in the last 14 days so yesterday they asked me to speak at our home church which I've been there I guess since I was a teenager and they asked me about a month it goes the first time I've ever preached they're not taught classes and that was so that's when you tell me that because I was shocked I think it you know cuz she knows a long time for a priest I mean I was working there for years so I guess they didn't want to turn the Robertson say all they want this particular crowd of the same name they only it seems to be they want us in small doses both medicine it's like worm like no good worm you know what's crazy is I can't blame them I can't even I only have one speech I basically introduced Jesus the kicker is we do what we do free of charge well that's right you know yeah yes I always say that when I did these years it can have a little more latitude to speak freely if you're not being paid to do so yeah that's I like that fire you and look I'm the guy who was paid for 20 years 22 years and now not and I agree 100% it's it's far more enjoyable even on my side so yesterday it gave me comfort that I you know you you couldn't get fired for what you're fired so people look most people that don't know me like the visitors they look up can you imagine what was going through their hair like this is the preacher cuz I looked about some of them probably thought they're gonna fire that oh boy yeah there's no soot you know I have my hat on you're like he's got a hat on in church I mean I have to have it because my hair I couldn't be able to read without it you know I'm having a bad hair you could do one of those JEP samurai buns you could have gone that there's something about that that makes me squeamish since you got rave reviews from well from your mother I was across town preaching you know I didn't remind the audience that you were on the other side of town preaching I said so we're doing something right we've ended up being proclaiming with audiences I said how we got there only God knows I said but Jase is over there right now doing the same thing I'm doing here well it was funny yesterday so I'm sitting on the front row you know getting I'm looking over my notes I got my walk up song in my ears which was funny because I had it hooked up to my cell phone and I decided that I was gonna talk about Jesus and cellphones though that was the idea I had because I have three kids one of them's a teenager and everywhere I go I hear all these these conversations about young people and cell phones but I can't drive a hundred yards down the street without seeing an older person usually who's like a cell phone zombie they're staring at their phone at a red light and everybody's blowing the horn and they look up and that's why they don't even look like they realized they're in civilization on a highway that's dangerous and they've stopped traffic because they're you know looking at Facebook it's puts them in another zone yeah I call it - that's what I labeled them cell phone zombies but what's funny is I'm sitting there I have it I have a you know how baseball players have a walk-up song and they do this to you know motivate themselves and the crowd gets behind to hit homeruns so I thought you know here we are in the spiritual war of a life I am not comfortable public speaking that's my biggest fear and I just spoke 13 times in the last 14 days so you're overcoming and I started my sermon with that that the Galatians 2:20 I've been crucified with Christ y'all know the passage I no longer live but Jesus lives in me because if it was about me this is the last thing I would do especially for free to get up and talk about something I know is gonna be sensitive because there are people who are addicted to their cell phones and so mom came up because she was trying to encourage me you know she's like I love you she is whispering you know Mara I love you I'm proud of you you know it's weird I'm fit I'm fixed to turn 50 you know but I felt like she was like you can do this you know don't be risky gives your first day at kindergarten like come on get on that bus you can do you can tweet moment that families are structured like ours I'm in my early seventies I'll still be at my 70s and how there will be in his 60s so you said boy that I'm far behind you know he turns that's when you start raising your having children young however we're still running together and it's been a long time that's pretty good it's not a bad point I'll tell me what my walk ups on this cuz I know I brought that out so you got your walk up and your mother on your side no the walk up song is oh I think it's Oh glorious day it's the song that that says it's a new modern worship song it the the tagline that got my attention is I ran out of that grave it goes along and it they kept the crowd participates they're like oh yeah it's a good it's a great granite it's my walk-up song because last year when I went to Israel it was I mean I cannot try to encourage people to go on that trip because it's basically the Bible in picture form and you're you're read especially if you have a pretty good handle on the Bible and the history of it all but and I've shared this before but you know I know that when I get nervous or you know I'm around you know some of these events I do and I know y'all have done the same thing I'm the only sober person there and so it's not a church event but I know I'm fixed to share Jesus I have one speech I'll do the duck call demonstration you know and that's what I justify I'm getting paid for but I fixed the share Jesus because I believed it to be true and so whenever I had these situations I think it's good to find a place that motivates you and helps you realize that so when I was in Israel and we saw where Jesus was you know supposedly crucified it worked you know for me it was in the general area but then there's some tombs there so you go and you visit the teams and nothing really strikes you at first you go in there look there's a little hole you go it because they roll a rock over it but you know the rocks not there you go in the hole and you look around you're like man this is is there something you know it's carved out of rock and it's quite extensive but when I stuck my head out of the hole that's when everything I believe just kind of hit me all at once I'm like I'm in Israel Jesus came back from the dead I'm sticking my head out of this hole dead people are in here but this is what I believe so that's why it's my walk-ups home because I think back to that moment you know when I ran out of that you know yeah that's yeah I'm ready though you know so I'm March up there you may not been Nijo but it was a hole somewhere right around there yeah where it actually happen I mean I'm coming out of the dirt and that's why I'm getting up here and sharing Jesus especially in the sensitive issues about cell phone but I told mom I said in that moment I was like no I'm glad you're here because I'm gonna apologize I said you and your husband you feel I said y'all are my icebreaker today and then the she did I don't think she knew what that meant but what that meant that you know we learned this in school you need something kind of funny that breaks the tension especially with somebody that looks like I do you know when I get up here what's going on here cuz some people I could tell they they didn't know who I was they're like is this guy actually fixed a freak and so my it also relaxes you as the speaker that's one of the reasons why it which is funny because most people that's the way they do it when they do it well dad is one of the few exceptions I've heard him do it before but dad's one of those that does he like just come up and just punch you right in the nose I feel good too it's different you have a presence about I've noticed I don't know if I've ever told you this it's like when you show up in a room full of people you have a tendency just to everyone gravitate and then you you dominate the rim I think it's something with personality and pretty he's always been that way even young it's not just cuz he's older well I never thought about this I think nah strange it's a god thing the term in the Bible that I've thought of before and you'll see this a lot when you look at the details it it says that Jesus spoke as is one who had authority that that phrase is in there a lot about speakers you know say he spoke as one who had Authority there's just something about the way some people speak that people listen you know I think there's a commercial about that and that when somebody speaks people listen you remember in like a month ago we were doing Eric Metaxas show in New York yeah and so you and I split you do the first half of the second half with that so why on air while we're talking dad is going off on some riff and my taxes looks at me and he was like your dad speaks like a man who's 900 years old yeah and that was just the way he put it with another guy CPAC said it looks like he came off the pages of the Old Testament what you're describing you know now it's the look to but it's just you've always had this way especially men and young men I mean they always gravitate yesterday and I always want to listen to what you have to say you know you were a coach and all that stuff so that was some kind of God thing he gave you before the rest of us it's a good idea to have icebreaker so I got up there and I said because here I'm gonna talk about Jesus and the cell phone and so I said I've come from a family that has trouble communicating and the reason I said that which in the second service I was in everybody a lot of people laughed when he said they laughed when I thought it was like it was a joke because we're always you know then I said my dad does not own a cell phone you know cuz a lot of times when I've tried to get a hole to you that the first thought that pops into my head is to get in my truck and drive 40 minutes that's the best way to get a hotel because actually trying to call you oh it's it's a long shot someone said you've got to be near the phone that's attached to the wall and it's got to be functionally on down here you're the last part of your phone goes out electricity goes out you're the last one or if the water's up phone water let me just shooting snakes you're an outdoors guy but uh and then I came up with your argument cuz I've heard it which is you know you saw the phone you saw the Apple on the phone with the bite taken out of it and you're out which I did heard you give that speech before and I was like what I wasn't making the cut just thought it was a little unusual that particular logo that picture yeah though with the bite out of it I'm like I think you had a point once you see what's on it so I made that reference but I also said I've heard field go you know and talk about all the the evil things that happen on the phone and the Apple and I just hear about them I've never actually witnessed him yeah but my icebreaker moment was but here we are in a duck blind and we're having face-to-face conversations it's real good for camaraderie I mean that's one of the main reasons we duck hunt in the blind you're out looking at God's creation you know it's just hard to think that this just came from nothing because we're paying attention to all the details having real conversations you know in this setting it's awesome and then you'll get on a conversation about the cell phone what's funny and I said I got to be fair though Phil has a lot of good points I think you as hard as right there is a lot of evil I was like then he'll say somebody get on the cell phone and check the weather see when that win is going to change you know then I might oh so there is something positive about the radar they'll say I was like why I thought you didn't like the cell phone then we're back on the rant about all this going on they'll say hey somebody called miss Kay in tell her to get dinner ready yeah go ahead and get them both going if I didn't have this cell phone we don't eat so it used to be on a walkie-talkie or even a CB unit in somebody's rig but I'm just seeing it grow exponentially that we finally got onto the cell phone I'm scared of them but there's some Doppler radar bingo our Thomas K will be back in an hour well your dinner's ready when you get there all right pretty handy remember the conversation the argument we had I'll look up you know I have a compass on my phone and I'm like here we are feels like arguing which way the wind oh yeah they started arguing well I told myself like it didn't make the compass accurate you know it's like they didn't go real and looks are just full-blown said nope that's wrong and so I'm like I'm not following this guy a compass on my phone in your life nope that's wrong I've never doubted the positive things from just sitting back and observing people who use cell phones I never doubted that there were positive things on it well thank you but I just observed at all and I said I think in this particular area with a device that people are drawn to to the extent that they are I just said I think the negative in my mind outweighs the good I think might be best in and out and you didn't want to have to I don't you didn't want to have to learn how to do it either right that's right I mean that was a big piece that seemed very complicated what you just described was the basis where I launched I said here's the deal I'm gonna for today I'm gonna ask you to turn your cell phones off and what I found out later not everybody could do it some some of them could not do it couldn't do it they so what that's one of the things that scares me about it can't you do without it for a little while so how do you know because some of them filmed what I said and they put it on their Facebook wall there you go yeah give us your speech Jase because I want to hear it I was not there I did I related the cell phone it's hard to give my speech you know in this setting exactly but I'll give you the high point I related the cell phone to two guns just like the gun control you know people ask us all over it when anything happens they ask us because they know we have a lot of guns and we're approach that can amendment because we always go to the argument as to human heart even in the case of mental illness their heart has been affected in a way we're using a gun as a simple way it wouldn't matter that it's a gun that's our point it's the human heart they're just trying to find the quickest easiest thing and so we're like that that's where you got in it's unfortunate so we're we're actually pro-gun cuz we're like we need other people with guns defend ourselves yeah with good good intentions to defend ourselves and it makes sense to us but then on the cellphone we don't I feel like even people and that's where I was challenging some of the arguments we've had with each other and somehow though we think it's something that's like an organism unto it same thing it's a place with information that you can go to queasy you know quick and easy access but it's the same principle to me there are positives happen there you combine the human heart and what you want with that cell phone and you get what you got now I read the first John 2 where it says don't don't love anything in the world and I added the words wide with it was a joke but you'll find that because first John 2 has three categories that the world that you'll find quick and easy which is the cravings of sinful man the lust of his eyes and the boasting of what he has and does will you think about it those three things if that's what you're after well a cell phone is instant access so but then on the other side I said but Jesus is instant access and I quoted Hebrews 13:8 Jesus Christ is the same yesterday today and forever if you go through that theologically in your mind you will deduct and conclude that he is now if you're yesterday today and forever that's why he said I am I asked him about Abraham he said yeah I was before him they're like what because I am and so I read Romans five about we've given access we've gained access to Jesus the difficulty is it's done through faith the cellphone is done by what your your seeing even though it's you know telepathically and satellites your looking you have this instant access so you have two things that work but one of them alive one of them dead it's just an object that you're combining with your heart which makes you realize that this one in your hand the phone could be a trap and so that's kind of the way I introduced it but then I had a lot of stats and you heard them about the dangers of cellphones which is you're six times more likely to be in an accidental car accident from a cellphone distraction than you are drunk driving whoa yeah six times eighty-four percent of teenagers have a cell phone the average age I mean the average time spent on a cell phone from ages 13 to 18 years of age is nine hours it doesn't seem right you think that can't be right so then you start realizing they're not sleeping the average age from 8 to 12 spent on it was 6 hours so their own here and now the reason I'm bringing up the teenage is preteen and we wonder why they think like they think and say what they say that's what scares me you're explaining why I started back in back and now here's my point let me taste 7s what we got there cuz this is one of the unique things the phone that it's not this in just an American problem this it really is a worldwide problem I'm in Africa in a country called The Gambia 900,000 people in this small African country you know any cell phones were in the country that I wrote 1.2 million cell phone there were 300,000 more phones than people that some people got two phones and look trust me this is Africa's even now people have business phones I understand so a guy like me you got to remember when I said to y'all I was just looking at the world trying to get the gospel preach to the world I said I know this sounds crazy me having never owned a cell phone but I think you guys need to figure out I didn't know any idea what y'all would do you and Zack I said my nephew and my son said not here I said y'all figure out how we can get the gospel preached on that little black box I was looking at it as a - like you say it for good me cause I had heard there was a lot of mischief I said well why don't and I said me of all people I've never even cooked on to the internet based on that directive we are now doing the unashamed Podcast fermions that's my point I realize that though people were watching me speak because we live stream you know when someone preaches so I realized there Washington so how many hours you say for the young people in other words if they had a a a sliver of time where they hear stuff like we are now discussing well that would be a good thing which back to my lesson though and look a couple of troubling stats were you know they had a stat where eleven teenagers a day in our country died in a car accident because of texting and drive you know or some distraction of the phone when you think about that that's Lebanon that's a lot hmm look 1,600 kids last year and this is taller and younger you said well they weren't on cell phone no they're just riding in a car but the wreck happened because of a cell phone distraction who lost their life and so which is troubling I mean this this is look I know you don't drive around town a lot fail but for the rest of us in civilization you I mean I'll how many people do you see being distracted by the cell phone that's causing mayhem out there all the all the horns being blown there's somebody looking at their cell phone on a highway and on a dangerous intersect or going down the interstate or you come up then they're driving 20 miles an hour and you're like hey I blow the horn I'm like they put a horn in a car for a reason I blow it they look up well when I get up beside them you look they're on their cell phones driving when you're right dad doesn't see them because he only drives on Sunday well and there's hardly anybody on that realistic not only there well I told most case she said I notice a lot of people today on that front row or two they all had their cell phones aiming aimed at you well right here was the kicker I never noticed you didn't even see it I never saw it hey they well before you get back to that something happened recently heed how little dad leaves the river to even see these things that we're talking about so we're in airport to doing some media and I bring dad a chick-fil-a a spicy chick-fil-a sandwich with the full you know the paper tattoos everything he's eating that sandwich he looks at was like yeah that is some chicken sandwich that that is good you know and it hit me about dads every the chick-fil-a said the only time he goes to town is Sunday and they're never hope is like I'm watching my 73 or that have his first everything you know everything is bliss he's shot you know out in the yard yeah I mean when we had the chickens you know and I wasn't making the connection I get up in the morning I'm looking for them and then I'm like what are we eating for lunch they're like fried chicken and then it hit me I might oh we're eating him chicken that we had a new yard but that I forgot it cuz he was in the hospital a few months ago and he'd answered you want me to pick you up something to eat field he said yeah gave me two of them chick-fil-a sandwiches the spicy ones I was gonna be spicy it's gonna smell good so so I came at it from the angle cuz you think what are you gonna pick on the young people no cuz I had look I've had situations with all three of my kids about two of them are no longer teenagers but the first two I gave him the cell phone checked it and I mean 24 hours later I'm like okay you're not ready for this well will my daughter cuz now there's more sophisticated apps I'm not familiar with everything I'd never heard of snapchat and I don't know anything about what do you call it snapchat let me ever heard of it let me give you a tutorial on snapchat all right first was for people who wanted to cheat on their husbands and wives oh yeah it's a private place because you got to think about it and that's the thinking behind it well then kids took it over the teenagers they had a way bigger following with teenagers because you think about it it was sold as a place for teenagers to go this private that you can hide from your parents oh my goodness now because supposedly like once you send something it deletes delete everything immediately and it's gone but look there are ways to get deleted material and I've you know I learned about that but anyway here's the only point of me on that wait and there's there's parents that you can find ways to see what your kid is doing on the cell phone but here's what I told the parents had here are the issues I wasn't picking on young people so much as the older generation and I divided everybody in the sermon into two categories the young were under 40 and the old were over 40 I was like that's gonna be our two categories for today which you know had offended probably the you know hey buddy realm or level yeah but and my logic was you know Jesus was here 33 years and I'm giving you seven at bonus years I was like in my mind there was a reason he was only here 33 years once you get over about 40 it's almost impossible to teach you anything just think about the people and the energy and churches he's like where's this happening it people are coming to Jesus or more open-minded usually when they're under 40 years old they're just usually under 30 right and I went to Luke 15 and here was where my whole sermon and in theology came from Jesus came in the when there was no technology other than you know Patras paper and some ink from blacks or the word of mouth 90% word I'm and I'm like are you think that had more accident or God designed a God knew when in society because he knew we had a problem after the garden which by the way the evil one in the garden we're since started you think what did the evil one do he created a setting that seemed like God was not around so so looking at snapchat in these places kids think and adults who are having private messages about how having you know an affair or whatever it seems like there's a setting where gods a million miles around we have a secret society we have a secret secret setting and it's actually in this bizarro virtual reality world where you can actually be better than you are because you can type and project an image of who you are that's what kind of is disgusting about you know social media in general it's actually not you it's a projection of how you want people to view you you know you're not gonna put the worst picture of yourself as your profile oh you're gonna go spin these women are gonna go spend some money and they're gonna make that project this is me you know cuz you meet these people in real life and you only see a picture cuz I've met that had that happened and I'm like good grief what happened but you realize that that's kind of the way it goes so I go to Luke 15 and here's Jesus in this world well you think about what did Jesus do he went around face to face he put his arms around people he went he hung out with this sketchy you know even though he never sinned he had a reputation Matthew 11 you I mention that my sermon I heard it he had a reputation for being a glutton and a drunkard why because he was dealing with shady people and sketchy and there it's in their environment and he goes to Luke 15 and he tells why because people accused him the religious people who he argued with the whole time and had problems with and I'm saying this older generation they accused him why are you eating with tax collectors and sinners well he tells these three beautiful beautiful parables about something being lost and he's after him and he's he's sharing that the reason he came to earth is he's the image of the invisible God he's the bridge to God God is after his grace love and mercy each individual human being on the earth I mean to me I've said this many times if somebody said you can only have one chapter in the Bible what would you go with I'd say Luke 15 because it's basically God in His grace pursuing human beings as well even the shady even the sketchy so I zeroed in on the third story which was the story about the two sons and so I linked that with the 40 and under crowd here's a guy and this is what I've found from having teenagers struggle with the cell phone and meeting with people our younger crowd the reason they're so hooked on their cell phone is they don't want to miss out on what the world has to offer this is the in it's all the information and it's a connection with people even though it hurts you socially you know because you're projecting this you're typing you're not actually with people but you want that connection and you don't want to miss out well that's why the guy left the family and went off and with the partying and the friends at st. same deal he just didn't have a cell phone to make it quicker he actually just took off down the road and and found it and what happened here's the father representative representative of God waiting on the road when he came to his senses you know that son keyed in on those three things the cravings of sinful man from first John to the lust of his eyes and the boast of what he hasn't done but it was a bad idea but then the older brother represents the Pharisees the religious world who's there tucked in their room no relationship with the father they've missed out on the relationship with other people in helping you know us as as bridges through Jesus on bringing people back to the Father they missed it they're trying to some kind of self performance rules and regulations so he brings them up so that was the generation that I attached to the 40 and above but I said here's the problem you're griping about the cellphone and your kid Benedict to it but you're not having a meaningful conversation with your kid at your house because you're in your room with the doors locked staring at Facebook saying what somebody ate at Taco Bell there's the problem we don't have the relationship in the interaction there's sometimes even what you're saying what I got it from the yesterday and today is that even within a family structure in the unit you've got this division taking place and the cellphone becomes the same you know Satan uses it against both because you know it's intraday but God uses that also probably a good thing just thinking back y'all were raised in an era all except probably JEP the youngest one but he almost where there there were they didn't have cell phones well I told Jase that told Jase that was why y'all were in an era where it was not up well that's why we can use it I'm not addicted to mine at all but would you could you still spend too much time on it sure and but but like tiered thing on the on the prodigal cuz that's a really interesting point I mean it's I love the way you use it you're exactly right and how it parallels the idea about the cell phone but even just that story itself and you said this yesterday is not the particle son there's particles sons yeah because actually Jesus was aiming it at the older and so in mine Lisa's new book I tell the story in there because it's about forgiveness I tell the story of Jeb's wandering as the younger brother but what's ironic is is that I too was a particle the older oldest son and your family I also you know went off the rails for four years what's ironic is is when Jeb came back now Jase and I are you know I'm heavily about the church Jase is as well Willie's working with the college age which Jeff is now reaching that age and so when we had this intervention for JEP his line was to us is what took y'all so long and it really affected me and I talked about that in the in my new he was let's say it was thrilled with the intervention well right and then I realized I was the younger brother and the older brother well I was both I've had the older brother temptations because you know I've never been drunk I didn't I'm never smoked dope I've had sex with one woman my wife you know on our wedding night for the first time but but the temptation in that is is then to think that I'm better I'm self righteous or to look down look I got mistake I make mistakes in them in the moment like we all do you know evil thoughts and bad thoughts but there's there's a temptation to all of a sudden think you're better than somebody because you don't have as much baggage and well that's who Jesus he was zeroing in on that that older brother that's right you you got a you should have been involved you should have held you should have thrown a party you know memories that I didn't there's nobody ever thought a party for me you kill the family you know feel the killer get that and care for this yeah a lost one but you would even do a goat from are you running to this year's yeah I've got an idea we didn't throw a party for you cuz you're selfish and nobody likes you you know you're mean and judgmental yeah otherwise you had a party we're gonna kill the fattened go there you gotta get it that's why I started off with I no longer live but Christ lives in me it's not about me you know we're all flawed but God uses us through His grace to rescue people so let me get to to what I was trying to project because it's it's it's two things you know it's this combination of yes there's a problem you know it's not the phone it's young ill-equipped young people who it's dangerous to get into something that's that accessible so the older generation yes we need to step up and say have a conversation about it what what do you it you don't check them help them teach them about that Jesus was face to face conversations that's what we need but look you know what I was amazed at when I did all the research for this even the world even the world non-christians they don't recommend anybody on a cellphone more than two hours a day because they said you know what when you see they did the research when you see kids get on there more than two hours a day you see depression you see suicides you see cyberbullying you see all this nothing comes out they're unhappy and it's because they're trying to be fulfilled they're trying to connect and they're trying not to miss out on something that in snapchat it's all evil and bad you know what I was amazed you know and I told my daughter that when I when I took her phone away as a punishment cuz I want to teach her about real life we won't have real conversation we want to go to develop some Jesus skills but your arms around people talking and that's what I called that but I decided to fast from my cell phone also that's why I hadn't been on social media in three months Oh y-you weren't retweeting my tweets now I know yeah now there's a few things that my wife said you know this is really good will you let me post this on your page I'm like fine but and people think that we have people do that for us no it's either me or my wife but since we the two became one I consider that me talking to your daughter you used yourself and you told her that that you were actually backing off of I backed off to book look here's my appointment I don't want our listeners to miss this what I learned is even though I wasn't on it much I was being distracted from what's going in my daughter's life so when we both did it together guess what after her two-week withdrawals was over because it took her that long to just literally just like an addition there's like an addiction is we started playing cards we started playing board games she starts playing the piano she slept all the time she had been sleeping you know yeah but you know what I was I was now had more time to notice her and to have talks and it's positive and I feel bad that I'm you know sharing our struggles in the world but I told her I was like we live in the light as Christians you know we make mistakes in the light God uses that to point people to Jesus Bona say this cuz I know you know we're about out of time two things happen after I shared that I introduced Jesus to people and I wanted to start the conversation in our homes about cell phones that's all I wanted to do I didn't want to come over as some expert I wanted to share you know in a raw way what happened in my life well after the first sermon because we have two services one's laid-back kind of traditional and then the second one's a little bit more than so I had the old crowd and the young crowd so a my two speeches I kind of zeroed in on the older brother in the first one as he wrote in on the younger brother in a second second one so it's actually a perfect setup well after the first sermon there's a family that I really love they've been in our church for years and the reason they're there for years is a young guy when I was in the pre 40 I was 25 I shared Jesus with this guy he comes to the Lord Jimmy Lindsey you know his whole family eventually came to Jesus through that which is awesome well they had some visitors from Texas what I didn't know is they here they come on a Sunday morning randomly to our church they see me getting up there and speaking I didn't know that they had lost their daughter in a car wreck because she was texting and driving and they just happened to be visiting I just happened to be talking about that so here we are in a parking lot we're all crying once they you know said that but and the mom did the talking but she was like you know we wish we would have heard something like this before that ever would have happened it would have brought to our attention I mean now there are a few years you know passed you never get over that you know but it was kind of a group therapy session and look it was bad I mean it wasn't anything fulfilling about that but its life and it's it's hard it's you know we have to overcome these things and the second story I wanted to share was the second service we had a guy respond you know at our church we have kind of the altar call and other people and and I shared Jesus and I really didn't talk about the response months in the second service because I kind of went over the first service I did I told the kind of funny story about the guy he responded to Jesus and he wanted to be baptized and with baptize my see him later on might you hadn't called me or anything and he's like man I I took a hammer out to my cellphone and I never brought up the cellphone but I thought he concluded that if he's gonna live a Christian life he's gonna have to destroy that phone but you made me thank the new Apple phones coming out and it cost $1500 which is which is what I spent on my first truck eighteen year old kid that came to Christ so he went back home to Kansas he said I gotta get lined out so he took his cell phone threw it up and took a shotgun because I guess he wanted to you know do a little trick shooting and blast it without any urging from you know he just did own a zonie tell me you know I same thing I couldn't go to me call me on his mom's phone he said she's weird cuz I compared the phone to the gun it's not the phone but young immature people new in Christ they they just think well I need to get rid of that you know yeah it's when you cut a step I can look at it they they you don't realize it's your heart and to tell you it's how you're using it but it's really hard to use it in a proper way cuz it's just so easy and I used to tell people that when people say you know I'm addicted to porn on the internet or whatever you know cuz it just popped up and I thought yeah I bet it just popped up you you know ww-whatever and then it popped up yeah but you know one day look I'm on there checking you know my stocks or whatever and and I have like six Phil field will have no idea what I'm talking about but I have six screens on I've never been six windows open you know and so at the end I was exonym all out well they're pulling up as you're Xing them out because you're checking four different sites or stops well the last one it's just you know a nekkid woman I'm like what in the world I'm looking for they're trying to get it out of ya what has ah you know I didn't clicked on an a I'm in just full Here I am and so I thought well maybe it did just pop up on these you know some of these sites so let me get to this second story on this guy he responds well and somebody else is handling one of the pastor's here David Romney which was by the way I'll share Jesus with another guy we that I'm seeing these guys who I remember him when they were outside of Jesus I shared they just so happened to respond and now he's a pastor he knew tell my converting people and being shy and there was Blake who was the first guy you led yeah I looked up when I was telling my story about being scared of public speaking and well my best friend from high school it was the first person that I shared with face to face he was in the audience you know he respond what 25 years 30 30 years ago but I love I love seeing him back there because I just like hey the story I just told there he was in the town I shared with that guy who's my best friend in high school so this guy responds so they said instead of because he wanted to be baptized and and it's hard to explain here but the second service is in a different room they don't have any water around there so you have to walk to the big you know auditorium and there's a battery stream back there so they somebody said we'll go over there and baptize him if any of y'all want to come so I guess about 60 people came over and so David the pastor's there he's you know going through the you know what's happening here you're reenacting Jesus's death Mel Reservations the glorious day you know and he asked him I who's gonna be the Lord of your life and he said Jesus you know and he's like we hashed a question which I usually don't ask this question but he said are you ready and you know he had told him you about how to hold his nose and he said are you ready and he went I don't think so and so everybody just kind of a chill happened and I thought oh and he he started walking away and and David kind of grabbed his arm like where are you going and in his confession you know that we had just gone over he said he had been 60 days sober so I knew you'd come out of the celebrate recovery under he ain't been so I knew he wasn't on drugs or anything he just got a 60 day tilt you you know and I was like and so David I thought asked he said well what's wrong when he said my my my head's cloudy and it but he was trying to get away and so I felt like now spiritual war has broken out because I've never seen this for I've been involved in thousands about job never seen their he's trying to get away and he's like pulling like no and I said hey when I said hey any and he looked at me cuz I felt like I just gave the sermon the introduction of Jesus that led to this point so maybe I can help you know and he stared at me in a way that was chilling and so I stared at him and we had a I don't know how long it was it seemed it seemed like a minute I'm sure it was probably 10 to 30 seconds we were just staring at each other and all of a sudden I started sensing something just evil I was like it was like he was looking through me or something he was just staring at me and I just felt compelled to tell him I was like this is not about you you've you've been sober for two months you just heard the greatest story in the world you were introduced to the greatest being the grace of God this has nothing to do with you you're surrendering to that right here and there's something inside of you this say a note it's not coming from God because this was his idea it's something evil and so he then he tried to bolt again I said hey no you're not leaving this this is you're not doing anything this is not about you so he kind of started quivering and David who said well maybe it was something I said and I went no it was nothing you said you did barking you know and so look he started shaking he looked up and now this is what was amazing at the top of his lungs he said every different denomination at an altar call that I've ever heard he said I accept Jesus Christ as my personal Lord and Savior in Jesus name but it was a little longer than that but he was just like as he was shaking I looked at David I said do it what he baptized and look he came up and I'm telling you it was like there was a glow around this man I mean it was amazing when the roar of the went up from the group cuz I was just outside the door everybody this year or yeah everybody cheered and I looked around and there wasn't a dry it was one of the most powerful things I have ever seen I had never seen that before that is why when you read these texts the truth will set you free beginning with Satan first John 5:19 do you have the children of God and the whole world is under the control of the evil one it was notice sometimes when you see that release from him it's a sort of worthy of note and what I what's amazing is he had already responded at the altar call he had already I mean he had asked him is Jesus or Eli but in that moment he looked up and it's like everything he had ever heard from an invitation it came out but it came out as he believed this was real missile you know what I'm not going through the motions aren't this I'm doing it and it was awesome so I thought of all the times I've spoken in the last two weeks this is what this is what we do it's not about us you're introducing Jesus to people that is that they're that lost sheep out in the wilderness and God is using you to bring that Luke 15 connection oh I just saw Jesus pick up the sheet at that point and say oh yeah thank you so here's what's ironic DOS as we kind of wrap up you know you you set out you had you were driven by the Holy Spirit to do this I call it a wake-up you know an alert about cellphones the dangers you did with a raw personal story but the effect on this young man and a lot of other people that are here by the way wfr Church org because I know now you're gonna be interested when we first how about this and Jesu I want to see that you can go to our church website and it'll be on there and the archives you'll see it so you have a chance to watch it and listen to the whole thing as Jase presented it but that's what God does and so you never imagined the way that was gonna rap but in that guy's heart anytime the gospel is out there it impacts and so just kind of bring it back to what we've been talking about last time we were on we talked about the Tower of Babel and when Jace was telling me about his sermon the day before he preached it we talked about that tower yeah and that idea of that kind of that global you know I'll say that I mentioned that yesterday it the problem with the Tower of Babel was that they were gonna make a name for themselves that's right instead of God and I called it yesterday I said we have something else that the world has come together on it's the cell tower of Babel which is what I totally should have made in the sermon very true which is true so so that kind of takes us back to where we are in terms of our study but when I heard Jace's sermon I was like we got to talk about this on the podcast because it was so fresh so thanks for sharing it again Jase and that's being able to weigh in we're gonna continue on if you want to do a little reading ahead Genesis 12 through 22 one of the greatest figures in all the Bible Abraham and there's wife Sarah so much New Testament stuff so we're gonna be talking about them for the next little while but hope today was a blessing to you check it out if our church org you'll see Jace's picture probably Earth or the surmounting know what do you know what they titled it it would had no title it's the lesson with no name the man with no name I thought of Jesus and the cell phones later but I didn't give him a title you know because I was so mad at you know all kind of technology because they were like we got to get it for the ystem for that and I'm like I'll see you Sunday so if you look it up it'll be on July 7th was the day that he preached it so uh man we appreciate you guys coming along with us for unashamed with Phil Robertson so we're so glad you guys were with us today you can subscribe on iTunes or Spotify or YouTube or Facebook and be sure and rate us on iTunes so that other people can know about the podcast

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Length: 55min 8sec (3308 seconds)

Published: Sun Jul 21 2019