>> ...STICKING YOUR [BLEEP] NOSE IN MY BUSINESS! IT'S NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS! >> OH, WHOA, WHOA, WHOA, WHOA. >> DON'T START WITH ME! >> IS SHE HOARDING DEAD ANIMALS? >> I'LL SPANK! >> I CAN'T STAND THAT. >> WE CAN'T ALLOW THEM TO CONTINUE TO SUFFER LIKE THAT. >> HEY! >> HEY, WATCH OUT, BART! >> QUIT, BECKY! YOU LEAVE MY STUFF ALONE OR YOU GET THE HELL OUT OF HERE! >> I CALLED YOU SO LONG AGO, AND NOW ALL OF A SUDDEN, YOU'RE COMING? >> THEY'RE RUINING THE HOUSE. >> THEY COULD HAVE BURNED THE HOUSE TO THE GROUND. >> HEY, HEY, HEY! HEY! >> HE DOESN'T CARRY A WEAPON, DOES HE? >> NO. >> CAN YOU SHUT YOUR MOUTH? >> I'LL JUST LEAVE. >> YOU NEED AN ADULT PARTNER. >> YEAH, I DO. --<font color="#FFFF00"> Captions by VITAC --</font><font color="#00FFFF">
www.vitac.com</font> [ DUCK QUACKING ] >> I'M HANNA, AND I'M A COTTON-PICKING RIDGE-RUNNER STUMP-JUMPER AND DAMN PROUD OF IT. [ ROOSTER CROWS ] I RAISE CHICKENS, DUCKS, GEESE, TURKEYS, GOATS, AND SHEEP. ALL RIGHT, I'M COMING NOW. YEAH, I HEAR YOU. LAWANDA, I'LL SLAP YOU, YOU DON'T LISTEN. DOWN, DOGGONE YOU! IT'S ALMOST 4 1/2 ACRES, AND SO I GUESS YOU WOULD COUNT IT A LITTLE FARM. I DON'T THROW AWAY ANYTHING THAT I CAN USE LATER. I DON'T CALL IT A HOARDER. I CALL IT KEEPING WHAT YOU NEED TO, BY GOSH, WHEN YOU DON'T HAVE MONEY TO GO BUY IT LATER. >> I'M LINDA, AND I'M HANNA'S DAUGHTER. MOM'S BEEN LIVING IN THE SINGLE-WIDE FOR ABOUT TWO YEARS NOW, WITH CHICKENS. MOM'S GOT ABOUT 50 HEAD OF BABY CHICKENS AND HALF-GROWN CHICKENS IN THE TUBS. >> BAM. >> SHE'S GOT CHICK MANURE ALL OVER, GARBAGE ALL OVER IT. IT IS BAD. REALLY BAD. [ Crying ] MOM DOES NOT HAVE HEAT IN THE SINGLE-WIDE. SHE DOESN'T HAVE ANYTHING TO COOK ON BUT A HOT PLATE. MOM CAN'T EVEN GET TO HER KITCHEN SINK. >> IT'S IMPORTANT TO ME TO GET OUT OF THAT OLD RAGGEDY-AGGEDY TRAILER AND BACK INTO MY HOUSE, WHERE I DON'T FREEZE MY BAHAGIES OFF ALL WINTER LONG. [ LAUGHS ] [ CHICKENS CLUCKING ] >> MY NAME IS BECKY, AND I'M HANNA'S OLDEST DAUGHTER. I GET SO PISSED AT MY MOTHER, THE WAY SHE'S LIVING AND LETTING THESE ANIMALS LIVE. >> ANIMALS ARE SUFFERING, BUT I CAN'T SIT THERE AND TELL MOM THAT THEY'RE SUFFERING, BECAUSE IF I TELL HER THAT, THEN SHE'S GONNA GET MAD AT ME AND TELL ME, "NO, THEY'RE NOT SUFFERING." >> THE ANIMALS ARE BEING MORE THAN TORTURED. THEY'RE NOT HAVING A LIFE. THESE ANIMALS ARE IN PRISON. >> THEY'RE ALL IN OKAY SHAPE AS FAR AS I KNOW. IF THERE'S ANY OF THEM WITH SOMETHING WRONG WITH THEM, IT'S MORE THAN I KNOW ABOUT. >> THERE'S A COUPLE GOATS THAT CAN'T EVEN WALK AT ALL. EVERY TIME THE GOAT TOOK A STEP, IT WOULD LIFT ITS LEG UP BECAUSE IT WAS IN PAIN. I COULDN'T BELIEVE IT. >> KEMP! >> SHE TREATS THOSE ANIMALS THE WAY SHE TREATED US KIDS. >> YOU LISTEN TO ME. YOU QUIT BITING THEM OTHERS, YOU HEAR ME? I'LL SPANK! >> AND I CAN'T STAND THAT. >> WE WERE ABUSED -- MANY DIFFERENT WAYS. [ SNIFFLES ] >> THE ABUSE WAS BAD. I ALWAYS WISH I WAS NEVER THERE. >> [ SNIFFLES ] [ Crying ] THERE WAS MANY TIMES THAT THE COPS WERE CALLED. >> I WAS 16 YEARS OLD WHEN THE STATE OF ILLINOIS REMOVED US. I ONLY TOLERATE HER BECAUSE SHE IS MY MOTHER. I DON'T HAVE TO PUNISH HER. GOD WILL. >> I HAD 16 KIDS, AND 10 OF THEM ARE STILL LIVING. IF THEY DON'T WANT TO HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH ME, FINE. IF THEY DO, FINE. I WAS LIVING BEFORE THEY WAS BORN, AND I'LL LIVE TILL I DIE. WHO IN THE HELL EVER HEARD OF HOARDING AN ANIMAL? YOU CAN'T HOARD AN ANIMAL. AN ANIMAL WILL GO WHERE THEY DAMN WELL PLEASE. >> I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY SHE JUST DOESN'T SAY, "OKAY, I GIVE UP ON THE ANIMALS. I'M GONNA GET RID OF THOSE. I GIVE UP ON COLLECTING THINGS," AND LIVE A BETTER LIFE. I DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT. >> THE WAY SHE LIVES, I CAN'T BE AROUND HER. >> [ Crying ] I CAN'T SEE MOM LIVE LIKE THIS ANYMORE. SOMETHING HAS TO BE DONE. >> MY NAME'S GARY, AND I'M UNEMPLOYED. YEAH, I GOT TOO MANY BUNNIES. THEY RELAX YOU. I MEAN, YOU CAN TALK TO THEM WHEN NOBODY'S AROUND. THEY MIGHT ANSWER YOU WITH THEIR WIGGLING NOSE, BUT, YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHAT'S GOOD ABOUT BUNNIES. DOTTIE'S THE OLDEST. SHE'S 4 1/2. AND THEN I GOT STUDLY IN THERE. THAT'S THE ONE THAT GOT ALL THE GIRL BUNNIES, AND THAT'S HOW THEY ALL STARTED. THEY SAY WHEN BUNNIES DO IT, BUNNIES DO IT. >> MY NAME IS KATHY, AND I'M ON SOCIAL SECURITY DISABILITY. THEY'VE CHEWED THROUGH THE DRYWALL AND GONE UNDER THE BATHTUB TO A CLOSET, AND THEN ANOTHER DIRECTION, THEY'VE GONE BEHIND THE HOT-WATER TANK, THROUGH THE DRYWALL, AND GONE, LIKE, TO THE CUPBOARDS. >> I HAVE THE BUNNIES INSIDE THE HOUSE BECAUSE I DIDN'T HAVE THE TIME TO BUILD A HUTCH, DIDN'T HAVE THE MONEY, DIDN'T HAVE THE FUNDS -- DIDN'T HAVE ANY OF THAT STUFF. >> ONCE THE LAUNDRY AREA KIND OF GOT FILLED, GARY KEPT TELLING ME HE WAS GOING TO CLEAN IT, WHICH WAS ALWAYS "TOMORROW, TOMORROW, TOMORROW." >> I'VE BEEN TRYING TO GET RID OF THESE BUNNIES FOR AT LEAST -- ALMOST CLOSE TO TWO YEARS. >> MY NAME IS JEFF. I'M THE HUMANE OFFICER FOR PORTAGE COUNTY ANIMAL PROTECTIVE LEAGUE. I WALKED DOWN A HALLWAY AND SAW A NUMBER OF RABBITS IN A BATHROOM. THE RABBITS WERE NOT PENNED UP. THEY WERE JUST ROAMING LOOSE. THE RABBITS WERE CHEWING HOLES IN THE WALLS AND WERE ACTUALLY COMING IN AND OUT OF THE WALLS OF THE HOUSE. IT'S A WONDER THEY DIDN'T HAVE A FIRE, CHEWING THROUGH THE WIRES THE WAY THEY WERE. THEY COULD HAVE BURNED THE HOUSE TO THE GROUND. >> MY NAME IS TODD. MY WIFE AND I ARE KATHY AND GARY'S LANDLORDS. JEFF HAD ASKED ME IF I'D SEEN MY HOUSE LATELY, AND I TOLD HIM NO. I LIVE IN OKLAHOMA. WHEN A HUMANE OFFICER STARTS ASKING THEM QUESTIONS, YOU GOT TO WONDER -- "MAN, THERE'S A MESS UP THERE." >> THE DUST AND THE FECES HAD WANDERED ITS WAY INTO THE KITCHEN AREA, AND IT WAS JUST, YOU KNOW, JUST NASTY. >> I'M LEVANA, AND MY HUSBAND AND I OWN THE HOUSE THAT WE RENT TO GARY AND KATHY. I JUST COULDN'T BELIEVE THAT SOMEBODY COULD DO THAT TO SOMEBODY ELSE'S HOUSE. >> YEAH, I GUESS I AM WORRIED ABOUT BEING EVICTED. I'VE NEVER DONE NOTHING WRONG IN MY LIFE. MISDEMEANORS, YEAH -- THAT'S GROWING UP AND STUFF LIKE THAT -- BUT WHAT DID I DO WRONG? I HAVE BUNNIES -- THAT'S WHAT I DID WRONG. >> I DON'T KNOW HOW THEY CAN LIVE IN THOSE CONDITIONS. SHE'S ALWAYS SICK, SO... NOW I KNOW WHY. >> THIS IS UNHEALTHY. WELL, YOU KNOW WHAT? I'D LIKE TO SEE HOW<i> YOU</i> LIVE. I'D LIKE TO SEE, YOU KNOW... I DON'T LIKE YOU. GET OUT OF MY HOUSE. >> I WANT THEM TO GET THE HOUSE CLEANED UP, BUT IF THEY DON'T, I'LL HAVE NO CHOICE BUT TO KICK THEM OUT. >> I MEAN, YOU CAN'T FIGHT THE SYSTEM. I FOUGHT IT, AND LOOK WHAT HAPPENED. I'M LOSING MY BUNNIES. 'CAUSE, AS BOBBY FULLER SAID, "I FOUGHT THE LAW, AND THE LAW WON." >> [ SIGHS ] I'M NOT -- UM... I KNOW HE'S BACK THERE, LISTENING TO ME. IT'S LIKE, YOU KNOW, I CAN'T LIVE LIKE THIS ANYMORE. IN FOUR DAYS, IF IT WASN'T CLEANED IN HERE, I WOULD MOVE OUT 'CAUSE I CANNOT LIVE LIKE THIS. SO IF HE DOESN'T GO THROUGH WITH THIS, THEN I JUST HAVE TO GO. >> THE SMELL OF WHAT'S IN MY MOTHER'S HOUSE -- IF YOU CAN IMAGINE GOING TO A GRAVEYARD WITH NOTHING BUT BODIES -- ROTTEN, DECAYING -- THAT'S WHAT IT SMELLS LIKE. >> MY NAME IS DR. ROBIN ZASIO. I'M A LICENSED CLINICAL PSYCHOLOGIST, AND I SPECIALIZE IN OCD AND COMPULSIVE HOARDING. >> I AIN'T HAPPY TO SEE NOBODY! >> IT'S QUITE CLEAR THAT HANNA IS AN ANGRY WOMAN, AND SHE WASN'T EVEN INTERESTED IN WALKING ME AROUND AND SHOWING ME THE THINGS THAT WERE TROUBLING HER AND WHERE SHE WAS NEEDING HELP. >> DO YOU WANT TO ENTER IN HERE WHERE MY MOM LIVES? >> I DO. I DO. >> OKAY. [ BIRDS CHIRPING ] BE CAREFUL, BECAUSE YOU'LL STEP -- YOU'LL FALL THROUGH THE FLOOR THERE. >> OKAY. WHEN I WALKED IN THE TRAILER, I WAS ALMOST SPEECHLESS. THE CONDITION WAS SO BAD IN THIS TRAILER. >> THERE'S CHICKENS ALL IN THESE CONTAINERS. >> THE AIR QUALITY WAS OVERWHELMING. THAT'S MANURE? IT GETS UP THIS HIGH? >> YES, THAT'S MANURE. IT'S ALL IN THIS HOUSE. NOTHING WORKS IN THIS PLACE. >> I MEAN, THIS ISN'T FIT FOR <i> ANYTHING</i> TO LIVE IN. >> NO. >> THE OVERCROWDING OF THESE ANIMALS WAS JUST SHOCKING. IT'S ABSOLUTELY ANIMAL ABUSE AND CRUELTY. THERE'S NO QUESTION ABOUT IT. OKAY, LINDA, IS SHE HOARDING DEAD ANIMALS? WHY IS SHE NOT EVEN THROWING THE ANIMALS AWAY? >> THIS IS THE SECOND TIME I'VE SEEN ONE DEAD. I'VE SEEN ONE DEAD OUTSIDE. >> SHE SEES THESE ANIMALS, IN THIS KIND OF CARE, AS BEING HUMANE? >> "THEY'RE FINE," SHE SAYS. >> HANNA'S DENIAL ALLOWS HER TO LIVE IN THERE AND SAY THAT EVERYTHING'S FINE. NO ONE IS GONNA MAKE IT THROUGH THE WINTER IN HERE. THERE'S NO WAY. >> I TOLD HER THAT, AND SHE SAYS, "WELL, I'LL JUST HAVE TO PUT AN ELECTRIC HEATER IN HERE." >> AND IT'S GONNA GO UP IN FLAMES. >> EXACTLY. THAT'S WHAT I TOLD HER. >> HANNA'S CHILDREN WERE TAKEN AWAY FROM HER, AND THEY'VE BEEN GONE FOR SEVERAL YEARS NOW, AND SO THEY'RE WATCHING HER DETERIORATION FROM AFAR. I KNOW THAT THE IMPACT HAS BEEN VERY, VERY HARD ON THEM. >> THIS IS NOT HEALTHY. THIS IS DISGUSTING, GROSS. [ Crying ] I CAN'T SEE MY MOM LIVING LIKE THIS. >> IT'S GOT TO BE HARD. THE PROGNOSIS FOR HANNA IS VERY POOR. SHE LACKS<i> ANY</i> INSIGHT INTO THE PROBLEM OF HER HOARDING, OF THE ABUSE AND THE NEGLECT, AND HER CURRENT HEALTH CONDITIONS. >> SHE HAS ALL THOSE HEALTH ISSUES -- HEART, LUNG, BACK. SHE CAN'T WALK, AND LOOK -- SHE COMPLAINS ABOUT WALKING IN HERE. >> WELL, SHE COMPLAINS ABOUT HER HEALTH, BUT SHE COMPLETELY DEFENDS THAT THIS IS A COMPLETELY SAFE ENVIRONMENT. >> YES. >> I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN TO HANNA. >> WITH THE BOXES BEING DOWN THE HALLWAY AND HERE AND THERE, WITH HER WALKING -- YEAH, TO ME, IT'S STRETCHING YOUR MUSCLES AND YOU'RE GETTING A GOOD WORKOUT FROM IT. [ KNOCK ON DOOR ] >> HI, KATHY. >> HELLO. >> I'M MARK PFEFFER. I SPOKE TO YOU ON THE PHONE. >> YES. NICE TO MEET YOU. >> NICE MEETING YOU. I'M MARK PFEFFER, A LICENSED PSYCHOTHERAPIST SPECIALIZING IN THE TREATMENT OF PEOPLE WHO COMPULSIVELY HOARD. IS YOUR HUSBAND GONNA BE JOINING US? >> I DON'T BELIEVE SO -- NOT TODAY. >> OKAY. >> WOULD YOU LIKE TO COME IN? >> YES. LET'S PROCEED. >> JUST WATCH YOUR STEP. >> THE AIR QUALITY WAS CERTAINLY PUNGENT WITH THE ODOR OF FECES AND URINE. I KNOW THAT GARY'S HERE. I CAN HEAR THE TV. [ MUSIC PLAYS ] >> DO YOU THINK YOU CAN TURN DOWN WHATEVER YOU HAVE ON BACK THERE FOR A LITTLE BIT FOR ME? PLEASE? CAN YOU PLEASE DO IT FOR ME, PLEASE? JUST SO WE CAN GET THROUGH THIS TONIGHT, AND THEN ONCE THEY'RE GONE, YOU CAN TURN IT UP AS LOUD AS YOU WANT. >> KATHY ENABLES GARY, AND GARY IS A VERY ANGRY MAN WHO REALLY ALIENATES HIMSELF FROM THE WORLD OF CRITICISM. >> THE DOCTOR WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TO YOU. ONE MOMENT. >> GARY, THIS IS MARK PFEFFER. HE HUNG UP. GARY NOT ONLY FILLS THIS NEED TO CONTROL WITH ANIMALS, BUT HE ALSO CONTROLS KATHY THROUGH PHONE CALLS WITHIN THEIR HOME. GARY, CAN I JUST SAY SOMETHING TO YOU, IF YOU DON'T MIND? [ BEEP ] >> HE HUNG UP ON YOU AGAIN. >> WELL, I CAN HEAR HIM HANGING UP, SO WE'RE GETTING CLOSE. GARY IS HOARDING CONTROL. HE'S TRYING TO MAKE SOME SENSE OF A LIFE THAT'S GONE AWRY BY COLLECTING ANIMALS, BY CONTROLLING HIS WIFE. KATHY, I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE IT'S -- I'M GONNA GO IN AND TRY TO SEE IF I COULD TALK TO YOUR HUSBAND. IS THAT OKAY WITH YOU? >> YEAH, THAT'S FINE. I'M JUST WARNING YOU. >> HE DOESN'T CARRY A WEAPON, DOES HE? >> NO. [ KNOCK ON DOOR ] [ LOUD ROCK MUSIC PLAYS ] >> GARY? WELL, YOU KNOW, I'M HERE TO HELP YOU AND YOUR WIFE. IF YOU FEEL THAT THIS LIFESTYLE IS WORKING FOR YOU, THEN WE SHOULDN'T BE HERE. WELL, IT CERTAINLY FEELS YOU HAVE MORE STRENGTH TO TAKE CARE OF YOUR ANIMALS THAN TO DO OTHER THINGS, THAN TO TURN OFF YOUR AUDIO HERE AND TALKING TO ME FOR THREE MINUTES SO YOU AND YOUR WIFE COULD HAVE A SHOT AT A LIFE. >> YOU WANT TO KNOW -- THAT'S WHAT PISSES ME OFF. >> YEAH, BUT WE'RE NOT THOSE PEOPLE, OKAY? >> YEAH, BUT YOU'RE HAVING THOSE PEOPLE COME HERE AND TAKE THEM. >> WHEN YOU HAVE A HOARDER THAT HAS AN ANGER-MANAGEMENT ISSUE, IT REALLY BECOMES VERY DIFFICULT. >> I DON'T WANT TO SEE THIS IDIOT, BECAUSE I MIGHT HAVE SOMETHING TO SAY TO HIM. >> SAY WHATEVER YOU NEED TO SAY, BUT LET -- >> YEAH, RIGHT. AND THEN THEY'RE GONNA THROW ME IN [BLEEP] JAIL. >> NO, YOU'RE NOT GONNA HIT ANYONE. >> I'M NOT GONNA HIT ANYONE. EVEN IF I SAY SOMETHING WRONG TO SOMEBODY, I GET THROWN IN JAIL. >> WHEN YOU WALK IN THE HOUSE, THERE IS A COMBINATION OF SMELLS THAT CONSISTS OF FECAL MATTER, DEAD CARCASSES, OLD FOOD, MOLD AND MILDEW. IT'S ABSOLUTELY OVERWHELMING. AND THE IRONY IS, HANNA HAS NO EMOTION ABOUT IT. SHE'S SIMPLY SAYING, "I'M GLAD YOU'RE HERE TO HELP ME CLEAN," BUT SHE IS NOT IN ANY WAY DISTURBED BY THIS ENVIRONMENT. >> GOOD MORNING, EVERYBODY. >> All: GOOD MORNING. >> WE HAVE GOT A LOT OF WORK TO DO TODAY. MY NAME IS MATT PAXTON. I'M AN EXTREME-CLEANING SPECIALIST. IF WE DON'T KNOW ALREADY, HANNA IS IN CHARGE, OKAY? >> AND NOTHING GETS THROWED INTO THE DUMP TRUCKS UNLESS I TELL THEM TO. >> LOUD AND CLEAR. THIS IS OUR ANIMAL SAFETY TEAM. >> WELL, I IMAGINE I'VE WORKED WITH LIVESTOCK BEFORE YOU'UNS WAS EVER BORN. >> HANNA IS VERY COMFORTABLE WITH WHO SHE IS. I THINK SHE'S BEEN A FIGHTER ALL OF HER LIFE. WE ARE NOT GONNA CHANGE HANNA. WE'RE NOT GONNA CHANGE WHO SHE IS. WE'RE HERE TO HELP THE ANIMALS, AND WE'RE HERE TO GET HANNA A SAFE PLACE TO LIVE. ALL RIGHT. YOU GOT EVERYBODY READY TO GO? >> READY. >> ALL RIGHT, LET'S DO IT. >> OKAY. >> WE CAN MAKE SOME SPACE OVER HERE FOR THINGS SHE WANTS TO KEEP OUT OF THE HOUSE. THAT IS ALL FECES. OH, THIS IS A DEAD CHICKEN THAT WAS UNDERNEATH ABOUT -- WHAT? -- A FOOT OF FECES. IT GOT CRUSHED UNDER THE WEIGHT OF THE FECES, AND IT WAS IN A CAGE, SO IT COULDN'T GET OUT. >> [ SMOOCHES ] >> SHE DON'T WANT TO BE PET MUCH. SHE GOT HER FOOT CAUGHT IN AN OLD PIECE OF FENCING. >> HOW LONG AGO DID THAT HAPPEN? >> MM...LAST FALL. >> LAST FALL. >> IS SHE PREGNANT? >> YEAH, SHE'S PREGNANT. SHE'S PREGNANT, HAVE A BABY NEXT MONTH. >> THIS DUCK CAN'T EVEN STRETCH HIS LEGS. WE'VE WATCHED HIM. ALL HE CAN DO IS KIND OF SCOOCH ON THIS WIRE. THEIR FEET ARE NOT INTENDED TO BE ON WIRE. YOU GET CHRONIC INJURY AND INFLAMMATION. >> THE DUCKS NEED TO HAVE ACCESS TO WATER SO THAT THEY CAN SWIM. >> NO, I DON'T WANT THEM IN NO WATER TO SWIM. I DON'T WANT THEM LAYING THEIR EGGS IN WATER WHERE I CAN'T GET THEM TO SIT. >> YOU HAVE A POND WHERE THE DUCKS COULD GET TO? >> NO, I DON'T WANT THEM IN THAT POND. >> THAT WOULD BE GREAT. >> YOU PUT THEM IN THAT POND, WELL, GOODBYE. I JUST FED THEM FOR NOTHING. >> I KNOW WHAT SHE IS REQUIRED TO PROVIDE FOR THESE ANIMALS, AND SHE'S NOT PROVIDING IT. >> DO YOU FEEL LIKE THIS IS A GOOD LIVING ENVIRONMENT FOR THEM TO BE IN AT THIS POINT? >> WELL, UNTIL I CAN DO BETTER, YEAH, THEY'LL STAY IN THERE. >> IT'S NOT RIGHT FOR THESE ANIMALS TO LIVE IN THIS CONDITION. >> I NEED TO GET MORE SPACE FOR THESE GOATS, AND THIS IS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY. >> THIS IS ENOUGH SPACE FOR THEM FOR NOW. I'LL GET THE REST OF IT DONE MYSELF LATER ON. >> WE GOT A BUNCH OF GUYS WITH A BUNCH OF TRUCKS THAT ARE FREE. >> THERE AIN'T NOTHING GOING OUT OF HERE! >> I'M TELLING YOU, HALF OF THIS IS TRASH. >> I DON'T CARE WHAT YOU'RE TELLING ME! I'M TELLING YOU I OWN IT --<i> YOU</i> DON'T. >> CORRECT. SHE'S A RATTLESNAKE. SHE JUST LETS YOU KNOW THAT YOU'RE BUGGING HER. SHE MAKES A LOT OF NOISE AND TRIES TO GET YOU TO GO AWAY. I'D LIKE TO GET THIS OUT OF HERE. >> IT'S GONNA STAY RIGHT WHERE IT IS. >> OKAY, SO -- THE GOAL WAS TO GIVE YOUR GOATS MORE SPACE. YOU'RE SAYING THIS IS NOT THE WAY TO DO IT. >> NO, THAT STUFF STAYS THERE. >> WHAT ABOUT IF WE JUST RESHUFFLED IT TO HERE AND THERE AND HERE? >> NO! I SAID IT STAYS THERE! HOW MANY TIMES DO I HAVE TO TELL YOU THAT? >> IT'S DIFFICULT TO DO A HOARDING CLEANUP WHEN THE HOARDER DOESN'T WANT TO TOUCH ANYTHING. >> MOM -- >> OH [BLEEP] >> THERE ARE ANIMALS ON THIS PROPERTY THAT ARE SUFFERING, AND WE CAN'T ALLOW THEM TO CONTINUE TO SUFFER LIKE THAT. >> WELL, I'LL TELL YOU ONE THING -- WHEN YOU START OUT MESSING WITH THEM, I'LL SUE EVERY DAMN ONE OF YOU! >> YOU KNOW, HANNA -- >> NOW, BY GOD, THERE'S NO DAMN SENSE IN YOU GETTING OUT HERE, STICKING YOUR [BLEEP] NOSE IN MY BUSINESS! IT'S NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS! >> WELL, WE WERE CALLED HERE, AND WE WERE CALLED HERE FOR A REASON, HANNA, AND THAT WAS TO MAKE YOUR LIFE BETTER, RIGHT? >> YES, AND TAKING MY ANIMALS SURE AS HELL WON'T MAKE IT BETTER. >> OKAY, BUT IT ALSO -- WE NEED TO MAKE THE ANIMALS' LIFE BETTER, AS WELL. >> I HAVE BEEN BATTLING THIS [BLEEP] [BLEEP] FOR YEARS. SOMEBODY ELSE GOT THEIR DAMN NOSE STUCK WHERE THEY GOT NO BUSINESS. >> WHAT IS THIS? >> WHAT IS THIS? >> WHAT THE HELL?! WHAT THE [BLEEP] HELL IS GOING ON OUT HERE? >> GARY, YOU GONNA SIGN THESE RABBITS OVER TO ME SO WE CAN GET THEM OUT OF HERE? >> GO ON AND TAKE THEM. IF I DON'T DO NOTHING, YOU'RE GONNA GIVE ME A [BLEEP] TICKET FOR IT. TAKE THEM. >> VERY SIMPLE. >> I CALLED YOU SO LONG AGO, AND NOW ALL OF A SUDDEN, YOU'RE COMING? >> WELL, YOU DIDN'T CALL<i> ME.</i> >> WELL, YOU KNOW WHAT? THEN THE [BLEEP] APL SHOULD HAVE CALLED YOU. >> I JUST NEED YOUR SIGNATURE RIGHT HERE. IT'S VERY SIMPLE. HE WAS A LITTLE HOSTILE ABOUT IT, BUT HE JUST SIGNED A BIG "X" ON IT AND HANDED ME BACK THE PAPER. THANK YOU. >> YEAH, WHY DON'T YOU DO YOUR [BLEEP] JOB? >> THE APL GUY MUST HAVE SET HIM OFF THIS MORNING, AND NOW HE DOESN'T WANT TO COME BACK WHEN THE RABBITS ARE TAKEN. >> WELL, GOOD MORNING, EVERYBODY. >> All: GOOD MORNING. >> I'M DOROTHY BREININGER. I'M A PROFESSIONAL ORGANIZING EXPERT, AND I SPECIALIZE IN HOARDING. NOW, I NOTICE WE HAVE ONE PERSON WHO'S MISSING. >> RIGHT -- MY HUSBAND. >> WHERE IS GARY? >> HE'S, UM...NOT GONNA BE HERE THIS MORNING. >> OKAY. IF GARY'S NOT THERE TO MAKE THE DECISIONS, THEN KATHY PROBABLY<i> WON'T</i> MAKE THE DECISIONS. SHE DOESN'T WANT TO GET IN TROUBLE. SO I WOULD IMAGINE IF HE'S NOT THERE, IT'LL BE DIFFICULT, AND IF HE<i> IS</i> THERE, IT'LL BE DIFFICULT, BECAUSE HE'S A DIFFICULT INDIVIDUAL. >> [ SIGHS ] I EXPECT HIM TO BE HERE, AND, YOU KNOW, SHARE EVERYTHING WITH ME, AND HE'S KIND OF COPPING OUT ON ME AGAIN. >> AGAIN? >> AGAIN. >> OKAY. WELL, LET'S GET THROUGH THIS MORNING, AND HOPEFULLY HE'LL SHOW UP. >> IN TERMS OF SAFETY, WE HAVE BLEACH AND WE'VE GOT WATER. WE HAVE TO TAKE SPRAY BOTTLES AND START SPRAYING DOWN THE WHOLE PLACE SO THAT WE CAN KEEP ALL OF THE FECES ON THE FLOOR, BECAUSE ALL OF US ARE AT RISK OF RESPIRATORY PROBLEMS. I WANT EVERYBODY WEARING MASKS. THE TWO OF YOU NEED TO DO A WALK-THROUGH OF THE HOUSE. HAVE YOU SEEN THE HOUSE YET OR NOT? >> NO. COMING IN. OH, YEAH. >> JUST SO I UNDERSTAND -- YOU HAD NO IDEA ANY OF THIS WAS GOING ON? >> NOT THIS. >> NOT TO THIS EXTENT. >> ALL WE KNEW IS THAT THEY HAD TO STOP USING A STORAGE UNIT AND HAD TO BRING ALL THEIR FURNITURE FROM THAT STORAGE UNIT HERE. >> OKAY. >> GOSH, THIS AIN'T FURNITURE. THIS IS JUST...JUNK. >> I FEEL SO SORRY FOR THE HOMEOWNERS BECAUSE THIS HOUSE IS COMPLETELY DAMAGED. I'LL TELL YOU WHAT -- IF I WERE THE HOMEOWNER, I WOULD NOT GIVE THEM A SECOND CHANCE. >> OH, MAN. LOOK AT THAT. LOOK AT THE DUST. >> WHAT ARE YOUR HONEST THOUGHTS ABOUT THIS? >> IT'S DISRESPECTFUL. >> THIS IS NASTY. THIS IS DISGUSTING. THEY'RE RUINING THE HOUSE. THE LONGER YOU LET IT GO, THE HARDER IT IS TO FIX. I CAN'T BELIEVE THIS IS ALL RABBIT FECES AND -- COME ON. REALLY? I'M JUST THINKING, "HOW COULD THEY LIVE IN THIS?" >> COULD YOU IMAGINE THE SMELL THAT FURNACE IS GONNA BLOW THROUGH BECAUSE OF ALL THIS RABBIT STUFF? >> THERE IS SOME DAMAGE TO THE WIRING, AS WELL. >> HAVING THEM SEE IT LIKE THIS IS JUST HORRIBLE. I JUST THINK THEY'RE A LOT MORE UPSET THAN THEY'RE LETTING ON, WHICH -- I DON'T BLAME THEM. I MEAN,<i> I'M</i> UPSET, AND IT'S NOT, YOU KNOW, MY PERSONAL HOUSE. I'M JUST RENTING HERE. I THINK GARY'S RUNNING AWAY AND HIDING FROM IT -- HIDING IN A HOLE, LIKE A RABBIT. >> IT'S LIKE THEY TURNED THE BATHROOM INTO A RABBIT HUTCH. >> WELL, I KNOW YOU'RE NOT ANGRY AT THEM. >> [ Sobbing ] NO. NO, NOT AT ALL. >> WHAT ARE YOU ANGRY ABOUT? >> I'M ANGRY BECAUSE GARY'S NOT HERE, AND HE'S THE ONE THAT LET THEM GO LIKE THIS. >> IF IT'S NOT CLEANED OUT, WE'LL HAVE NO CHOICE BUT TO EVICT THEM. >> THERE ARE ANIMALS THAT ARE SUFFERING TERRIBLY, AND WE JUST WANTED TO GET THE ONES IN THE MOST EXTREME PAIN TO THE RESCUE FACILITY SO THAT THEY COULD GET SOME CARE. >> AND LITERALLY AS WE'RE HAVING THAT CONVERSATION, WE SEE ANIMAL CONTROL COMING UP THROUGH THE FRONT YARD. WE HAD NO IDEA WHAT WAS GOING ON. >> WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON?! >> OKAY, WHO -- WHAT IS GOING ON HERE? >> WE STILL DON'T REALLY KNOW WHO CALLED. WE LOOKED AT THE NEIGHBOR. WE THINK IT MIGHT HAVE BEEN A VET THAT WAS VISITING HERE EARLIER IN THE WEEK. >> WHAT THE [BLEEP] HELL IS GOING ON OUT HERE? >> I DON'T KNOW, MOM. I DON'T KNOW. >> I KNOWED THAT'S WHAT WOULD HAPPEN. EVERY TIME YOU GET A BUNCH OF THEM INVOLVED, THAT'S WHAT [BLEEP] HAPPENS. I KNOWED I'D BE THE LOSER. >> OKAY. >> WE ASKED THEM TO LEAVE BECAUSE WE THOUGHT THAT HANNA WAS GONNA WORK WITH US. >> WE GOT IT COVERED. YOU'RE OKAY. YOU'RE OKAY. THEY'RE LEAVING. THEY'RE LEAVING, OKAY? >> IT'S A BUNCH OF [BLEEP] [BLEEP] >> HANNA, THESE PEOPLE ARE READY TO COME IN AND TAKE ALL YOUR ANIMALS. >> RIGHT. >> THAT'S ALL THE [BLEEP] THEY THINK ABOUT -- TAKING SOMEBODY'S STUFF. >> AND WE'RE TRYING TO SAVE THEM FOR YOU, I PROMISE YOU. >> YOU'VE GOT SOME THAT YOU CAN'T CARE FOR. >> I CAN CARE FOR THEM IF I HAD SOME -- >> HANNA, WE ARE ON YOUR TEAM, I PROMISE. >> WILL YOU SHUT UP WHEN I'M TALKING TO HER? I CAN MANAGE THEM JUST FINE -- ALL OF THEM. >> LET ME TELL WHAT WE CAN DO FOR YOU, HANNA, OKAY? LET ME GIVE YOU AN OPTION, OKAY? >> NO, IT AIN'T AN OPTION. YOU MIGHT TELL ME WHAT YOU CAN DO, BUT IT'S NOT AN OPTION. >> BUT I'M ASKING YOU TO LET US DO THIS. WE GOT TO DEAL WITH THIS. >> CAN YOU LET ROBIN TAKE THE SICK ONES SO YOU CAN KEEP THE REST? >> [ Sobbing ] WHEN YOU TAKE THEM, I AIN'T GOT NOTHING LEFT. >> I'M NOT -- >> I DON'T GIVE A DAMN. YOU TAKE THE ONES YOU'RE CALLING SICK, THEN I'VE GOT NOTHING LEFT. >> AND, HANNA -- >> AND I MIGHT AS WELL JUST GET RID OF THE WHOLE [BLEEP] THING AND BE DONE WITH IT. >> I DON'T WANT TO DO THAT. HANNA HAS EXTREMELY POOR JUDGMENT AND INSIGHT, AND SHE CAN'T MAKE ANY HEALTHY DECISIONS. >> THIS IS A SOLUTION. >> OH, YEAH, IT'S A SOLUTION FOR <i> YOU,</i> BUT IT'S NOT FOR<i> ME.</i> >> WHOA, WHOA, WHOA, WHOA. >> DON'T START WITH ME. DON'T START WITH ME. >> WAIT, WAIT. >> YOU GUYS WAS SUPPOSED TO COME UP HERE AND HELP HER! >> WE<i> ARE</i> HELPING. >> I'M NOT SUPPOSED TO GET PHONE CALLS WHILE I'M AT WORK, AND SHE'S UPSET. >> CALM DOWN. >> YOU KNOW SHE'S GOT [BLEEP] >> CALM DOWN. >> MY MOTHER IS -- NOBODY'S GONNA START [BLEEP] WITH HER. >> WHO'S STARTING [BLEEP] WITH HER? >> CALM DOWN. >> ONE OF THE GRANDCHILDREN WAS APPARENTLY CALLING HANNA'S DAUGHTER AND SAYING THINGS THAT WEREN'T EVEN HAPPENING. >> I GET PHONE CALLS WHILE I'M AT WORK! >> OKAY, CALM DOWN, CALM DOWN. I DON'T KNOW WHO -- >> EVERYBODY'S CALLING ME HERE! I'M NOT GONNA DEAL WITH MY MOTHER GETTING UPSET AND HAVING A HEART ATTACK! >> SHE'S FINE. >> NO, THAT AIN'T WHAT I GOT! >> TIME OUT. >> I DON'T GIVE A [BLEEP] WHAT YOU SAY! >> TIME OUT! >> BART, BART, PLEASE GO THAT WAY. SHE'S RIGHT HERE! >> ROBIN AND I WERE ABLE TO STOP HER, BUT SHE STILL ENDED UP GETTING IN A FIGHT WITH HER BROTHER. >> EVERYTHING WAS GOING FINE UNTIL HER [BLEEP] SHOWED UP. >> BART -- >> SHUT YOUR [BLEEP] MOUTH, BART! >> GET OVER HERE. >> HEY, WATCH OUT, BART! DON'T DO IT, BART! >> HEY, HEY, HEY, HEY, HEY, HEY, HEY, HEY! HEY, HEY, HEY, HEY! >> SHE'LL KNOCK THE HELL OUT OF HIM -- FLATTEN HIM OUT. >> THESE CHILDREN THAT SHE HAS RAISED DON'T HAVE ABILITY TO COMMUNICATE WITHOUT YELLING. >> THIS ISN'T HELPING. >> THIS FAMILY IS PROBABLY THE LARGEST FAMILY I'VE EVER SEEN, AND IT IS, BY FAR, THE MOST DYSFUNCTIONAL FAMILY I HAVE EVER SEEN. >> COME HERE, BUDDY. COME HERE. THEY'RE ALL RUNNING LOOSE IN THERE, SO IT'S GONNA BE DIFFICULT TO GET THEM ALL. COME HERE, BUDDY. >> YOU GOT IT? >> OKAY. >> HEY, HEY, HEY, HEY, HEY, HEY! ALL RIGHT. OKAY. OKAY, BABY. YOU'RE OKAY. THERE YOU GO, BABY. >> HOLD ON, HOLD ON, HOLD ON, HOLD ON. >> A COUPLE OF THEM SCRATCHED ME, BUT THAT'S JUST THEIR NORMAL REACTION TO BEING PICKED UP, BECAUSE IT SEEMS LIKE THEY HAVEN'T BEEN HANDLED MUCH. OH, BABY. [ TELEPHONE RINGS ] >> HELLO? IT'S GARY. HAS TODD AND LEVANA LEFT? YEAH, THEY HAVE LEFT. >> GARY, I'M DOROTHY. >> HOW BIG DO YOU WANT IT? >> VERY BIG. >> THE SIGN ON THE DOOR WAS A LITTLE DISTURBING WHEN I FIRST SAW IT. THE APL WAS OUT HERE MAYBE A YEAR AGO, AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT ON THEN. AND I JUST STARTED THIS JOB AS HUMANE OFFICER IN JULY. THIS ONE'S GOT SOME INJURIES TO IT. ALL THE RABBITS APPEARED HEALTHY, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF ONE WHO LOOKS LIKE HE HAS SOME WOUNDS ON HIM, AND IT'S PROBABLY FROM FIGHTING WITH ANOTHER MALE RABBIT. >> IF THEY WOULD HAVE CAME A YEAR AGO AND TOOK THEM, THEY WOULDN'T<i> BE</i> IN THIS ENVIRONMENT. >> WHITE ONE RIGHT BEHIND YOU. >> AND TWO IN HERE? >> NO, JUST ONE, I THINK. >> JUST ONE? >> WHY WEREN'T THESE RESCUE GOONS AROUND WHEN WE TRIED CALLING THEM? >> IT'S A LITTLE DIFFERENT WHEN A HUMANE OFFICER CALLS THEM AND SAYS, "HEY, WE GOT A PROBLEM," THAN WHEN, YOU KNOW, JUST... >> [ SPITS ] >> ...SOMEBODY ELSE CALLS, SO... >> HOPE YOU CAUGHT THAT. >> IT WAS INTERESTING TO WATCH GARY'S ANGER TODAY AND HOW HE USES HIS ANGER AND SARCASM TO REALLY ALIENATE PEOPLE, GET WHAT HE WANTS, AND STAY IN CONTROL. >> IT WAS UNFORTUNATE, BECAUSE MY CREW DIDN'T GET IN UNTIL JUST ABOUT 3:00 TODAY. IF WE SEE THAT IT'S BEEN DAMAGED, IT'S MADE ITS WAY OVER HERE. >> I'M GONNA GO CATCH BUNNIES. >> OKAY. BUT DO WE NEED YOU FOR ANY DECISIONS, OR IS KATHY'S DECISION OKAY? >> GARY? HE'S DEAF IN ONE EAR, SO IT'S HARD FOR HIM TO HEAR. >> OKAY. YOU COVER FOR HIM A LOT, DON'T YOU? >> YEAH, I DO. >> YOU'RE A REALLY GREAT LADY WHO TRIES TO COVER FOR HIM. >> YEAH, I DO. >> I'M JUST GONNA SUGGEST THE COMPUTER ROOM FOR YOU ON THESE, BECAUSE WE'RE GONNA USE THAT FRONT BEDROOM AS COMPLETE STORAGE. THIS IS WHERE THESE GO. >> OH! THANKS. WHY DID YOU HAVE TO THROW THE FRIGGIN' WATER AT ME? >> 'CAUSE I FELT LIKE IT. >> [BLEEP] >> IT'S CHILDISH. THAT'S RIGHT. >> YEAH, AND THAT'S WHAT YOU ARE, IS JUST A BIG FRIGGIN' CHILD ALL THE TIME. >> GARY JUST STORMED OFF. HE WAS GONE AND LEFT KATHY HOLDING THE BAG. AND YOU KNOW WHAT? SHE WAS IN TEARS. YOU NEED AN ADULT WITH YOU RIGHT NOW, DON'T YOU? >> YEAH, I DO. >> AN ADULT PARTNER. >> THE WHOLE DAY YESTERDAY WAS ABOUT DEALING WITH HANNA, KEEPING HER EMOTIONS DOWN SO SHE DOESN'T GET SICK. WE NEVER REALLY GOT ANY CLEANING DONE. ALL WE WERE DOING WAS DAMAGE CONTROL. >> WE DID GET HANNA TO AGREE TO LET SOME OF THE GOATS GO... SOME OF THE DUCKS GO... THE RABBITS... AND A REALLY, REALLY SICK TURKEY. [ BIRDS CHIRPING ] >> WE HAVE ANIMALS THAT ARE IN UNBELIEVABLY CROWDED CONDITIONS. WE HAVE ANIMALS THAT ARE IN A FOOT AND A HALF TO 2 FOOT OF FECES. THIS IS ABSOLUTELY UNACCEPTABLE. THIS LITTLE BIRD GOT ABSOLUTELY NO MEAT ON HIS BONES AT ALL. I CAN'T CHANGE EVERYTHING HERE, BUT I CAN CHANGE THIS CHICKEN'S LITTLE WORLD. I WOULD RATHER HIM DIE IN MY ARMS THAN IN THE CAGE. >> HANNA, I'M REALLY CONCERNED ABOUT THE BIRD THAT DIED, OKAY? AND I'M AFRAID THAT THERE'S OTHER BIRDS IN HERE THAT ARE STARVING, TOO. HANNA, IF THEY'RE STARVING, WE NEED TO DO SOMETHING FOR THEM. >> WELL, IF THEY'RE STARVING, I GOT TO GET FEED TO THEM. >> IT'S NOT GONNA HELP RIGHT NOW. >> IT WILL DO IT, 'CAUSE AIN'T NONE OF THEM SITTING. >> THAT'S NOT GONNA HELP. THAT'S WHY THAT ONE DIED. >> THE ONES THAT ARE STARVING NEED MEDICAL CARE. >> THAT ONE DIED HAS GOTTEN HURT, AND IT WON'T EAT. >> NO, YOU KNOW IT STARVED. >> IT'S BEEN HURT FOR LONGER THAN I THOUGHT. SO THEN TAKE THE REST OF THEM. IT DON'T COST NONE OF YOU A [BLEEP] PENNY! IT COSTS<i> ME,</i> NOT<i> YOU!</i> GET THAT [BLEEP] MIKE OUT OF MY FACE! >> HANNA. HANNA, HANNA. CALM DOWN. >> BEFORE WE LEAVE TODAY, WE WILL MAKE SURE ALL THE ANIMALS HAVE FOOD, THAT THEY HAVE ADEQUATE WATER, THAT THEY ARE IN THE BEST CONDITION AND THE CLEANEST CAGES THAT WE CAN GET FOR THEM, AND THEN WE WILL BE CONTACTING THE STATE OFFICIALS ON MONDAY MORNING AT 8:00. >> ALL BOXES GOT TO GO OUT TO THE BARN. >> NO, THEY DON'T, BECAUSE THERE IS STUFF IN THERE THAT CANNOT GO IN THE BARN! AND I DON'T GIVE A [BLEEP] WHETHER YOU LIKE IT OR DON'T! >> OKAY. BUT THEY'RE GOING TO THE BARN. >> THEY AREN'T -- >> HEY! HEY! >> YOU WANT ME TO SET YOUR [BLEEP] QUIT, BECKY! KEEP YOUR DAMN HANDS OFF OF ME, OR I'LL SLAP THE [BLEEP] OUT OF YOU! >> IT'S OKAY. MY MOM HAS LASHED OUT AT ME MANY TIMES. I'M USED TO IT. THAT'S WHAT SHE DID WHEN WE WERE KIDS. SO I JUST TAKE IT. >> KISS MY [BLEEP] YOU LEAVE MY STUFF ALONE OR YOU GET THE [BLEEP] OUT OF HERE. WHATEVER YOU WANT TO DO. >> WELL, THAT'S WHERE WE'RE AT. WE'RE EITHER GONNA MOVE IT ALL OR WE'RE LEAVING. YOU GOT TO DECIDE. IT'S TRASH. >> TRASH. >> THIS FAMILY DECIDED THAT THEY WERE GONNA DO WHATEVER IT TAKES TO GET THIS HOUSE SAFE FOR THEIR MOM, AND THEY'VE DONE THAT. BUT THE REALITY IS, THIS HOUSE WILL BE FULL VERY QUICKLY. IF YOU LET IT GET THIS FAR, MAN, IT'S A REAL HARD THING TO CHANGE. A REALLY HARD THING TO CHANGE. >> HERE -- TOSS. >> WE HAVE OFFERED AFTERCARE SERVICES FOR HANNA. SHE DOES NOT THINK THAT SHE HAS A COMPULSIVE HOARDING PROBLEM. SHE DOES NOT, BY ANY MEANS, SEE ANYTHING WRONG WITH THE TREATMENT OF THESE ANIMALS, AND SHE'S REFUSING ALL HELP AT THIS POINT. HANNA'S PROGNOSIS IS EXTREMELY POOR -- PROBABLY THE WORST OF ANY HOARDER I'VE EVER WORKED WITH. >> YESTERDAY WAS A DAY FULL OF FEAR, ANGER, AND FRUSTRATION. I'M HOPING WE CAN USE THAT ENERGY TODAY TO WORK AS A TEAM. WHAT DO YOU THINK? >> LIKE I SAID, LESS [BLEEP] MORE WORK. >> WHAT WAS THAT? >> LESS [BLEEP] MORE WORK. >> WELL, THEN DROP THE ATTITUDE. >> WELL, THEN, LET'S GET GOING. >> OKAY. >> WE WILL BE WORKING. WE'RE GONNA BE WORKING VERY, VERY HARD. AND WE HAVE HOUSEKEEPERS COMING IN AT 1:00. >> SHE'S GOT TO BE A BROWNS FAN. TALKING A [BLEEP] >> GARY, WE'VE GOT HOUSEKEEPERS COMING IN AT 1:00, AS WELL. >> FIRST THEY WANT ME TO TALK, AND NOW THEY DON'T WANT ME TO TALK. >> WELL,<i> SHE'S</i> TALKING. CAN YOU SHUT YOUR MOUTH? >> I'LL JUST LEAVE. >> WELL, IT WOULD BE NICE IF YOU'D LET THEM EXPLAIN WHAT'S GOING ON. I'M SORRY. >> THAT'S OKAY. HOW OLD WAS GARY JUST NOW? >> HE WAS BEING 2 YEARS OLD. >> YEAH. YOU'RE KIND OF A MOM A LOT OF THE TIME. >> OH, YEAH. >> YEAH, I CAN TELL. >> GARY HAS THIS HABIT, WHEN FACED WITH ANY KIND OF CONFLICT OR CRITICISM, OF CHECKING OUT. >> WHOA, WHOA! >> IN THE CUP. >> WE FOUND 20 OR MORE MICE. >> TURN AROUND, TURN AROUND. IT'S ON YOUR BACK NOW. >> IT'S ON HIS ARMPIT. >> IT JUST BECAME FUNNY, ALMOST, BECAUSE WE WERE PICKING THEM UP WITH OUR HANDS AND TAKING THEM OUT TO THE WOODS AND LETTING THEM GO. >> SET THEM DOWN. >> All: OHH! >> LOOK AT ALL THE ROOM. >> SO, THE HOLES ARE STILL EXPOSED HERE, RIGHT? >> I DIDN'T EVEN SEE THEM YESTERDAY. THE TABLE WAS IN THE WAY. >> RIGHT, RIGHT. THIS BATHROOM -- BAD SHAPE. I JUST DON'T KNOW WHAT TO SAY. IF YOU WERE GOING TO REPAIR IT, WHAT WOULD YOU REQUIRE? >> OH, THE WHOLE THING WOULD BE REDONE. >> YEAH. >> EVERYTHING -- TOP TO BOTTOM. >> IT'S GONNA HAVE TO BE GUTTED. >> I'M STILL NOT CLEAR HOW MUCH OF THE HOARDING IS YOURS. >> IT'S 50/50. >> 50/50. >> I MEAN, IT'S LIKE, "YOU'RE GONNA STOP CLEANING? FINE.<i> I'LL</i> STOP CLEANING." >> OKAY. >> YOU KNOW, IT'S LIKE TWO BULLS GOING UP HEAD TO HEAD. WHO CAN WIN? AND NOBODY WON. >> SO, YOU'VE GOT ABOUT -- OH. WE HAVE ONE MORE RABBIT. >> OH. >> ALL OF A SUDDEN, ONE RABBIT POPS OUT. >> OH, THERE'S THE OTHER -- THAT'S A BABY. >> THEN A SECOND RABBIT CAME OUT. OH, WE'VE GOT BABIES. >> THIS IS ALMOST FUNNY. >> IF IT WASN'T SO SAD, IT WOULD BE FUNNY. YEAH, I AGREE. >> WHAT I WANT TO DO IS HAVE MY BROTHER COME OVER LIKE EVERY TWO WEEKS. HE CAN JUST CHECK ON THE PROGRESS THAT'S BEING MADE. >> AS OF NOW, THE PLAN IS FOR THEM TO STAY. GIVE HER FOUR, FIVE, SIX WEEKS, SEE IF THERE'S ANY IMPROVEMENT. IF IT STARTS LOOKING LIKE IT'S GONNA GET BACK TO THE WAY IT WAS, THEN WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO START THINKING ABOUT EVICTION. EVERYONE DESERVES SOME SORT OF SECOND CHANCE. SOMETIMES THEY'LL GO THROUGH WITH IT, SOMETIMES THEY FALL.
