GeForce RTX 4070 Ti vs GeForce RTX 3080 10GB, 50+ Game Benchmark @ 1440p & 4K

foreign [Music] books today I've got another Mega Benchmark video for you this time comparing the GeForce RTX 4072i head to head with the now two and a half year old RTX 3080 10 gigabyte of course we'll be doing so in 50 games though some titles have been tested using multiple different configurations so for example with and without Ray tracing so there is a lot of data to go over but before we do today's sponsor spot is brought to you by MSI and the new spatium SSD series these pcie 4.0 ssds utilize the latest 3D nand flash technology with capacities up to four terabytes and offer incredible speeds of up to 7 gigabytes per second for reads and 6.8 gigabytes per second for writes they feature built-in data security with AES 256 encryption and e2e data protection as well as error correction capabilities that extend the endurance and longevity of the nand flash storage you can also migrate data monitor Drive health and performance in real time with MSI Center and for that extra peace of mind all models are backed by a five-year warranty from MSI so for more information please check the link in the video description now you might be wondering why compare the RTX 4070 TI with the RTX 3080 after all they are meant to be two different classes of GPU thing is though it's just a name and companies like Nvidia AMD and Intel commonly use their established product families to upsell Gamers and that's exactly what's going on here roughly two and a half years ago now the RTX 3080 launched at 700 us though due to the crypto boom which took off just a month or so after release getting one for that price was nearly impossible that being the case a year and a half later Nvidia decided to take advantage of the then current market situation by re-releasing Geo 102 and Geo 104 with a minor spec bump asking twelve hundred dollars US for the 3080 TI and a more reasonable 600 us for the 30 70 TI still a lot of you did purchase a 10 gigabyte RTX 3080 and many of you are probably considering the upgrade to a 40 series product but of course the problem being price it's kind of gone up and by a lot the RTX 4070 TI for example starts at 800 us or at least that's where it should start most models are more like 850 or more and worse still if you want the more desirable RTX 4080 well those things cost twelve hundred dollars U.S I mean they're meant to cost twelve hundred dollars US according to the MSRP but in reality they cost more like thirteen hundred dollars US ouch anyway if you currently own an original RTX 3080 and you're looking at an upgrade does the RTX 470 TI have much to offer as I've already noted at MSRP it's 14 more expensive and yet despite that the die itself is 53 smaller though it does manage to pack 27 more transistors thanks to the 10 asmc N4 process which is a significant upgrade from Samsung's 8 lpp process the 4072i also packs eight times more L2 cache going from a mere 6 megabytes to 48 megabytes so while the core configuration sees less Cuda cores IPC has been improved however there's no getting around the fact that although the 4070 chai includes an extra two gigabytes of vram taking the total of 12 gigabytes memory bandwidth has been significantly reduced thanks to the much more limited 192 bit wide bus and that's a massive downgrade when compared to the 320 bit wide bus of the RTX 3080 which when paired with 19 gigabits per second memory resulted in a bandwidth of 760 gigabytes per second so although the 4072i uses even faster 21 gigabits per second gddr6x memory the much narrower bus sees bandwidth cut to just 504 gigabytes per second and that's a massive 34 reduction so in more memory sensitive scenarios the 4072i will likely suffer and that's something that we're going to be looking at ultimately though we want to see how the 3080 and 40 70 TI compare across a wide range of games so let's go do that for testing the CPU used is the ryzen 9 7950x3d but with the second CCD disabled and this has been done to ensure maximum performance in all games so essentially we are testing with the yet to be released 7800 X 3D this CPU has been tested on the gigabyte x670 RS Master using 32 gigabytes of ddr5 6000cl30 memory and the latest AMD and Nvidia display drivers were also used as usual we'll go over the data for around a dozen of the titles tested before jumping into the big breakdown graphs and the resolutions of Interest here are 1440p and 4K so let's get into it starting with fortnite using DirectX 11 with the Epic quality settings without any upscaling we find the 4070 TI is 20 faster than the 3080 at 1440p so not a big difference there and the performance uplift is in line with the price increase however at the 4K resolution we see a far more substantial 62 increase for the 4072i going from 52 fps to a much more desirable 84 FPS basically without the aid of upscaling the 3080s performance is very janky at 4K with 1 lows of 29 FPS making the 4072i a much more capable 4K gamer in this example now this is interesting typically we've found fortnite to run slower using DirectX 12 but have noted that if you're using a slower CPU this might not be the case but it also appears as though this could also apply to those of you using slower gpus at 1440p the 4072i dropped 32 percent of its original performance when using DirectX 11 whereas the 3080 dropped by 3 34 then at 4K the 4072 I run 26 slower with Droid X 12 opposed to DirectX 11 whereas the 3080 was actually two percent faster with a massive 59 Improvement to the one percent lows so the lower overhead of DirectX 12 is helping to improve the minimum frame rates here but it is also capping the overall performance at least in this example the problem is DirectX 12 limitation has on high-end Hardware is Amplified when enabling Hardware Ray tracing though we are still running into some pretty odd data here the 4070 tire is 23 faster than the 3080 at 1440p which is about what you'd expect to see based on the previous data however it's the 4K results that are really surprising here the 3080 and 4072 I delivered similar performance whereas the 4070 TI saw a 16 reduction in performance when compared to the DirectX 12 results with rt disabled the 3080 saw a mere four percent Decline and remember the non-rt results didn't utilize upscaling so perhaps this is a result of setting the super resolution to Quality mode for the ray tracing tests but whatever the case the 3080 was surprisingly impressive here next up we have Call of Duty Modern Warfare 2 and here the 47 22i is 33 faster the 3080 at 1440p and 30 faster at 4K so strong performance gains there from the newer but also more expensive Ada Lovelace GPU okay so here we have another example this time in The Witcher 3 world hunt where the 4070 TI beats the 3080 by a fairly comfortable margin at 1440p 17 in this example but then only basically matched it at the more demanding 4K resolution and the reason for this is almost certainly down to the difference in memory bandwidth the factor that plays a more key role as the resolution increases and it's a similar story with Ray tracing enabled along with fsr2 the 4072i was 27 faster than 3080 at 1440p and despite that massive win it was just three percent faster at 4K the f-122 results are more what you'd typically expect to see with the 4072i delivering 17 more frames at 1440p and 26 more at 4K clearly this game isn't heavy on memory usage so the more limited bandwidth of the 4072i isn't an issue Warhammer 40 000 dark tide was tested using the highest quality preset with Ray tracing enabled and this saw the 3080 dip below 60 FPS at 1440p making the 4072i 18 faster then at 4K the average frame rate of the 4070 TI was 33 greater but both suffered from stuttering issues with one percent lows of just 12 FPS the results for a plague Tower Requiem favored the 4072 at both Tesla resolutions so a 16 performance Advantage at 1440p and 10 at 4K again suggesting that performance starts to become more memory bandwidth bound on the 4072i as the resolution increases next up we have the Callisto protocol and here the 4072i is 30 faster than 3080 at 1440p while that margin is reduced to 24 at 4K the game does use fsr2 with the ultra quality preset that's the default configuration so we haven't altered it but needless to say frame rates would be lower at the native resolution atomic heart is another game where the 3080 fares much better relative to the 4072i as the resolution increases for example at 1440p the 4072i is 36 faster than the 3080 which is a massive margin and although it's still 24 faster at 4K that's a significant reduction compared to what we saw at 1440p interestingly performance in cyberpunk 2077 is much more competitive even with Ray tracing disabled using the higher quality settings the 4072i was just 10 faster at 1440p with comparable one percent lows then at 4K performance was much the same 43 FPS versus 44 FPS so I made two percent difference there now given what we saw in cyberpunk 2077 with Ray tracing disabled these results might be a little bit surprising though having said that Ada Lovelace is meant to be more efficient when it comes to RT performance and that is certainly the case here as the 4072i is now 29 faster than the 3080 at 1440p and 22 faster at 4K so those are some solid performance gains like cyberpunk 2077 I've tested Hogwarts Legacy with and without Ray tracing enabled and we'll start with the standard Ultra results here the 3080 and 4072 are surprisingly similar at both tested resolutions the new Ada love lace GPU is just six percent faster at 1440p and a mere four percent faster at 4K but now with Ray tracing enabled the 4072i does extend its lead out to 12 at 1440p rendering 65 FPS on average however 4K is too much even for a 12 gigabyte vram buffer so under these conditions both models were a stuttery mess in our test and the latest Hogwarts Legacy patch hasn't addressed this issue if having high quality textures with the added load of Ray tracing is an actual issue in any case the 3080 does suffer from noticeably worse visuals with lots of compressed textures and significant pop in but it does work at 1440p at least in our testing Okay so we've taken a detailed look at just a few of the 50 individual games tested acid now it's time to compare the GeForce RTX 4072 and RTX 3080 across all of the games tested and we will start with the 1440p data okay so 1440p the RTX 4072i was on average 21 faster than the 3080 10 gigabyte so a fairly significant uplift there and really that would be an amazing result had the 4072i not cost more in fact at MSRP it is 14 more expensive though at retail it's more like 20 more expensive so basically the 4070 tier offers the same cost per frame as the 3080 or a very slight Improvement when looking strictly at the MSRP the biggest wins for the 4072i came in Forza Horizon 5 atomic heart Modern Warfare 2 Dying Light 2 without Ray tracing gears 5 Halo infinite Hitman 3 and the Callisto protocol the smallest wins were mostly seen when CPU Limited in tiles such as ACC CS go pubg War Thunder and Hogwarts Legacy with rt disabled now the 4K resolution the overall margin was slightly reduced to 18 in favor of the RTX 4070 TI fortnite using DirectX 11 was the big outlier here provided the 4072 with a massive 62 win though titles such as Forza Horizon 5 and Modern Warfare 2. again we're very positive for the newer GPU as you'd expect there were less CPU limited results at 4K but there are also more instances where the 4070 TI suffered due to its more limited memory bandwidth so there you have it on average the RTX 4070 TI is 18 to 21 faster than the RTX 3080 10 gigabyte depending on the resolution with margins as great as 62 percent the though more typically peaking around 30 to 40 percent and we saw no examples where the RTX 3080 actually beat the 4070 show but there were some where performance came out pretty much the same looking back at my day one review data for the 4070 TI I found that on average it was 21 faster than the 3080 at 4K so despite expanding the testing from 16 games to 50 we found the exact same margin and this is a disappointing result that clearly demonstrates just how underwhelming this latest generation of Graphics products are from both AMD and Nvidia at MSRP the 4072r is a mere 5 Improvement in cost per frame when compared to the RTX 3080 basically providing Gamers with the same level of value almost two and a half years later in fact it's worse than that because at present the 4072i typically cost 850 making it two percent more costly per frame when compared to the old 3080 but hey at least you get LSS frame generation on the 4072i that is you 3080 peasants miss out on that one and I'm sure that's by no means meant to incentivize you to spend more in a 4072i Or 4080. Nah that wouldn't be it technical reasons for sure realistically you'd have to be coming from say a 2080 or 2080 super for the 4072i to make sense those products cost around 700 to 800 us back in the day and while they represented fairly poor value when compared to the Pascal generation that came before going from a 2080 series graphics card to a 4072i for roughly the same money that would be a massive upgrade anyway as I said my Radeon RX 7900 XT versus GeForce RTX 4070 TI comparison neither of those products represent good value or anything remotely verging on good value but they're also as good as it gets today at this performance tier therefore it does appear as though AMD and Nvidia are working together to beat Gamers into submission and if that is the case then I don't expect this situation to improve it's likely GPU upgrades at the same price point are only going to make sense every five years or so at least that's how things currently stand that means RTX 3080 owners will be best off Holding Out for at least another generation and if games in a year or so are hitting that 10 gigabyte vram buffer for a bit too hard you just have to accept lowering texture quality settings which will probably be acceptable at least most of you'll probably find that acceptable given that at that point it would be quite an old graphics card despite the fact that it was once sort of a flagship product anyway that is going to do it for this video hope you enjoyed it if you did feel free to give it one of those you can subscribe for more content because we will have a few more big GPU head-to-heads coming up on the channel and then some CPU content a couple of Yeah couple of good things in the works there so make sure you uh look out for those also if you'd like to support the channel more directly we have float plan on patreon signing up to either one of those will give you access to our exclusive Discord server monthly live streams are to myself behind the scenes content and Q a so some pretty cool stuff there worth checking out but if you're not interested that is perfectly fine and I would like to thank you for watching this video I'm your host Dave see you next time [Music] thank you [Music]

Channel: Hardware Unboxed

Views: 237,312

Keywords: hardware unboxed

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Length: 16min 33sec (993 seconds)

Published: Tue Mar 14 2023

Reddit Comments

[u/bizude]

This thread is quickly becoming heated.

This is a kind reminder to stay civil. Speak your mind, but say it respectfully.

[u/Pszemek1]

If only I could buy 4070 Ti in reasonable price. In my country, lowest price I could find was an equivalent to $1050.

[u/kingwhocares]

For cost per frame it's only 5% improvement, a lot less than one would expect from a GPU 2 years down the line. It's just an overpriced GPU by $200.

[u/Action3xpress]

Why are they using FSR when testing two Nvidia cards?

[u/Pamani_]

I had been tracking GPU prices in Europe for a few month and the lowest price I saw for a 3080 10GB was 840€ in october 2022. Doesn't make the 900€ 4070 Ti look as bad.

[u/Method__Man]

Almost as bad as their intel arc test, which they completely botched a couple weeks back

These people are very bad at their jobs…

[u/MisinformationALWAYS]

I really dunno why this channel's videos constantly get posted here. Every single one has questionable methodology and as a result has left a permanent air of doubt lingering over their credibility as a whole.

The guy says they test with the consumers best interests in mind but I don't think they're in touch with reality.

[u/4514919]

You can't really claim that the 4K result getting closer are certainly because of the memory bandwidth when Ampere is notorious for having worse scaling at 1440p than 4K.

The 192bit bus doesn't help but if we compare it to other architectures the performance delta is not as bad as in this review.

[u/Deckz]

What a garbage generation, nvidia and amd seem dead set on trying to kill pc gaming with their absurd prices.