Game Theory: Minecraft, The FROZEN Nether

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👍︎︎ 1 👤︎︎ u/AutoModerator 📅︎︎ Dec 11 2022 🗫︎ replies

Yeah ngl, this theory is stretchy at best, misleading at worst and lacks research into what could have caused the heating up and the effects of greenhouse gazes which is the thing that annoys me the most. Greenhouses do not "just make zone hotter", they need a sun or something to work which doesn't when there is an actual ROOF on top of the nether

👍︎︎ 1 👤︎︎ u/WarbrainDP 📅︎︎ Dec 12 2022 🗫︎ replies

Oh Dear, this has to be one of the flimsiest theories they've made so far...

The existence of basalt in the nether merely implies that the lave can still cool off, this does not prove the existence of water.

Comparing the streaks in a type of soil with glacial markings left in stone makes no sense.

"Considering the Nether is a closed off system with no sky, it seems very clear that ice was plausible here"I really don't follow this leap in logic. How does that indicate anything about the existence of ice?

"Crafting releases CO2" -The Game Theorists, 2022

The most ridiculous part about this whole forced global warming tangent is the fact that you claim that the lack of an atmosphere for the gasses to escape to would somehow accelerate global warming. The green house effect wouldn't even work without an atmosphere in the first place!
Not to mention that, according to the video, this higher heat had somehow spiralled far enough to cause volcanic activity?

If the nether really had water at one point, then where's the signs of it? We even have ancient river beds on mars, there's no way it wouldn't have left a mark in an entire dimension!

I never liked the idea that the Nether is some kind of post apocalyptic landscape. It's an entirely different dimension, why can't that just be how it looks?

👍︎︎ 1 👤︎︎ u/lolglolblol 📅︎︎ Dec 13 2022 🗫︎ replies

I like how he brought up the ripples in the soul soil, as looking for ripples is an actual technique used by geologists to tell the history of the area.

Unfortunately, mat drops the ball when he says they’re evidence of ancient ice flows. While glacier movement CAN cause ripples, so can literally anything gradually moving over a surface for a long time.

Ripples can also be found after lava flows. Since we know that lava actually exists in the nether, I think it’s more reasonable to say that lava flowed over the soul sand valley at some point.

There were plenty other bad tales made in the video, but I think this is really indicative of GT trying harder to be contrarian for the sake of views instead of making the educational-ish content like they used to. Sad.

👍︎︎ 1 👤︎︎ u/Potential-Silver8850 📅︎︎ Dec 30 2022 🗫︎ replies
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At this point, I think everyone's familiar  with the Nether. Minecraft's version of   HE-Double-hockey-sticks. A separate closed  dimension with a bedrock ceiling and floors   covered in fire and lava. Not exactly the  most inviting of holiday destinations,   but hey, at least the weather's consistent. But while the conditions have always been  dangerous. This channel's favorite Minecraft   characters, the ancient builders, seemed to have  thought that this was an ideal location to build   big parts of their civilization. Why, though? I  always felt like I was missing something there. What was so appealing about hellfire and  brimstone that they thought that this is   going to be the perfect escape from all the  horrors that they created in the overworld? Well,   my friends, after my last theory about a Piglin  invasion in Minecraft legends, I started digging. And what I found absolutely floored me. Buckle up.   Because the reason for the nether being such  a hot commodity is going to give you chills. Hello Internet! Welcome to Game Theory, the Piglin  of the Internet that will offer you great content   in exchange for a click of that subscribe button.  As I've already mentioned, a couple of months ago,   we did a theory based on the upcoming Minecraft  spinoff: Minecraft Legends, a real time strategy   game where we unite the overworld in an effort to  defeat the Piglin invasion coming from the Nether. Looks like a really interesting game. I'm  actually incredibly excited to see it come   out, but we deduced that the lore being  presented to us in the trailers of that   game might not be the actual truth. Feels  like that's been happening a lot recently. While the game presents us as the heroes.  The Piglins are actually invading because   the ancient builders invaded them first,  destroying their home in the Nether. In   that episode we pointed to the ancient builders  doing what they always do over-farming resources,   which eventually lowers the biodiversity of  the area, making resources much harder to find,   and thereby making it harder for the Piglins  to survive. So what did they do to cause such   a shift in biodiversity? Well, dear theorists, I  once again pulled out my trusty theory pickaxe,   started digging, and I struck Diamond. Not really. That would actually be incredibly   impressive given that they don't spawn in the  Nether. But what I did find was Mojang dropping   little hints that give us a window into the early  years of the Nether. Before the Nether wars of   old, before the arrival of the ancient builders  was a world that looked very, very different. It wasn't filled with lava and barren  wastelands, but instead was a thriving   ecosystem that contained the most valuable  thing to sustaining life, water. That's   right. There used to be water in the Nether  and I can prove it to you. And not only that,   I'm going to explain why it ain't there anymore.  Put on your biggest puffiest coat theorists. We're   going into the Nether and it's going to get cold. Now, I understand that the idea of water existing   in the Nether is a huge claim. You can't even  place the stuff. It literally evaporates if   you even try to pour it out. Well, while this is  certainly what happens if we go to the Nether now.   I'm not convinced that it's always been that way.  And the reason for that is 2020's nether update. I’m telling you guys, this update is the one  that just keeps on giving us new lore. The Nether   Update completely overhauled the Nether as we  knew it, adding new mobs like the aforementioned   Piglins, new blocks like Ancient Debris and Soul  Soil, and a whopping four new biomes to explore,   one of which is going to be of great  importance to us today; The Basalt Deltas. This biome is definitely one of the most  striking things you're going to come   across in the Nether. When you arrive,  you'll notice the eerily quiet ambiance   in the large towers of the new basalt  blocks poking out from the sea of lava. But what you might not know is that those large  pillars of volcanic rock weren't something formed   out of the minds of Mojang, but rather you  can find these things out in the real world.   Basalt is a substance that makes up around  90% of all volcanic rock found on Earth. When molten lava erupts from a  volcano and flows across the surface,   it immediately starts to cool. If the lava  has a high level of silica and cools quickly,   it becomes a black volcanic glass  that you might know as obsidian. On the other hand, if there are low levels of  silica, like in 90% of lava, then the rapid   cooling is going to create something else: basalt.  It might not appear as interesting as obsidian,   but this rapid cooling can sometimes cause  the outer parts of the rock to contract,   causing them to crack in hexagonal patterns,  which creates these beautiful tower-like columns. You find these structures actually all over the  world, including Giant's Causeway in the UK,   Devil's Tower in Wyoming, and now  they're just in the Nether too.   But basalt works slightly differently in  the game than it does in the real world. While basalt blocks can certainly spawn  naturally in the Basalt Deltas and the Soul   Sand Valley. If you want to make your own  basalt, you need three ingredients: Lava;   makes sense, Soul Soil; a material that's only  found in the Soul Sand Valley and Blue Ice;   which is basically the Russian  nesting doll of Minecraft ices. You take nine ice blocks and craft them  together to create packed ice. You take   nine blocks of packed ice and then craft  them together to get super packed ice. Ah,   wait nevermind it is just blue ice.  Super packed ice though, a lot more fun. Also, can I just say, Mojang, your ice is  already blue. It was always blue. Naming aside,   this means that you need a total of 81 blocks  of ice just to make one block of blue ice.  Point being, they’re really cold. Which I suppose  makes sense when real life basalt towers are made   from rapidly cooling lava. So good job developers.  Way to know your science. In the game. The only   place cold enough for blue ice to form is on  the bottom of icebergs in the frozen ocean. You can also find it stored in snowy tundra  village houses and in the ancient cities in   a structure literally called the ice box.  The main thing you'll notice is that none   of these locations are the Nether.  There is zero ice of any kind in   the Nether. It is simply too warm of  an environment for it to make sense. So the question becomes how could basalt  form in the Nether if there was never blue   ice to be found there? But what if there was  blue ice in the Nether at one point in time,   way before we ever made it there?  What if the Nether had an ice age? Nobody. Nobody wanted round two or three  or four or five or…there's a sixth movie   in development?! ah, who am I to talk? This  is our 33rd Minecraft theory. In fact If you   didn't realize we had so much Minecraft  content, it probably means you're not   subscribed. So why don't you just go ahead and  do that right now, we always have the hottest   Minecraft theories in town. Definitely one  of the cooler Minecraft channels out there. And don't worry, there are plenty more bad  puns waiting for you on the other side of   that subscribe button. yall subscribed?  Cool. Let's take a look at the evidence   that shows that the Nether went through an  ice age. Not the cringey movie type either. Besides these massive basalt biomes,   we actually see evidence of an ice age in  one of the other ingredients for basalt;   Soul Soil. Take a look at the texture of the  block, the waves and streaks on its surface. Other dirt and sands in the game don't  have textures like this. But there are   places in the real world that do, and that's  thanks to glaciers. While glaciers are made   of solid ice. They actually flow just like a  river of water would just much, much slower. This movement of ice ends up shredding and tearing  up the solid land it travels over, leaving behind   sediments and streaks in the surface, just like  we see in the streaky texture of the soul soil and   the sedimentary nature of soul sand. Large blocks  of blue ice, cutting through the landscape of   sout soil, hitting the lava, creating the basalt  that we see in the soul sand valleys, and more   impressively, the basalt deltas. But the Nether’s  covered in lava. How on earth could ice have ever   formed there? I hear you and I understand. But in  real life there is a precedent for this: Iceland. Iceland is essentially one giant volcano  that's been constantly spewing lava onto   its surface. And despite the myth  that Greenland is icy and Iceland   is green. Iceland is in fact very icy.  An icy place can absolutely be volcanic. The two things aren't mutually exclusive.  What makes the place volcanic is whether   magma from earth’s center can make its way  to the surface and erupt as lava. Meanwhile,   something like a cold climate is determined  by a variety of other factors, things that   are completely separate from whether or  not there is a volcano in this location. Considering the Nether is a closed off system with  no sky, it seems very clear that ice was plausible   here. The Nether wasn't always so hot. Instead  it was cooler, maybe even frozen. And just like   we've always suspected with Mars, if there's  ice, that means water and water means life. Something that we know has to be true thanks to  the fossils that we find throughout the Nether.   These massive rib-like structures are found all  around the soul sand valley and they can get as   high as seven blocks tall. Considering  a block in Minecraft is one meter tall,   that means that a single rib from this creature  is seven meters or nearly 23 feet tall. That is one tasty and expensive rack of ribs. And  that's just talking about the rib. Imagine the   kind of creature that would be big enough to have  a rib that large if the Nether was once icy. These   creatures were likely some gigantic mammoth-like  mobs that roamed free in the landscape. But obviously something changed along the way.  How could the nether go from being a balanced,   biodiverse environment with giant mobs  to a lava filled wasteland where only   skeletons remain? This is where our “good guy  heroes”, the ancient builders, come into play. They would have escaped to the Nether  looking for resources and ways to defeat   the Wither that they'd created up on the  surface. And so they would have seen all   the luscious environments, the materials,  and they would have farmed them heavily. We know that the ancient  cities used polished basalt,   so they probably mined a lot of blue ice in  order to create it on their own. And sure,   taking the only real source of water  ain’t the greatest move in the world. But that's not what really caused the  downfall of the Nether. What caused the   downfall was the ancient builders moving in in  the first place. You see, I suspect the ancient   builders didn't just bring themselves.  They brought their technology with them,   their crafting tables, their torches and  fires, their animal herds, their smelting. And those things all release gases, CO2 from  creating fires and burning fossil fuels.   To all the gases that release when you smelt  metal, to methane from cow farts, all of them   are greenhouse gases because their presence in  the atmosphere causes it to warm significantly. Much like the air inside of a  greenhouse is warm. And unlike   in the overworld where these gases  can escape out into the atmosphere,   I suspect in the closed ecosystem of the  Nether, these gases began to collect. They had nowhere else to go.They were stuck  forever under the bedrock ceiling. Bit by bit,   the Nether started to heat up. The ice, which  was already being farmed away by the builders,   began to melt faster and faster  until one day it was just gone. All the water had dried up. You were suddenly left  with a hot series of caves, fires spontaneously   bursting out of the ground. The large animals that  once roamed there in peace began to die out due to   asphyxiation. There just wasn't enough fresh air  to go around, and soon the builders would die too. The only ones able to survive were those who  found another escape route. A new portal got   a bit, though. This is a pretty impressive  new record for the ancient builders. They   just doomed the Nether without even trying.  By the time Steve walks in from the overworld,   millennia have passed and the gases have long  since dissipated. But the damage has been done.   Animals are gone. Plants are mostly gone.  Even many of the builders have died. With   only the walking skeletons left behind.  The once icy glacial temperature of the   Nether has become a fiery place of death as the  temperatures have risen to unsustainable levels. Desperate to hold on, the ancient builders  created ice rooms in an attempt to keep   what remaining stores they had. But  it was no use. It was way too little,   way too late. This is how the ancient builders  wrecked the biodiversity of the Nether,   and no amount of gold is ever going  to be able to fix the Piglins home. In the end, Minecraft is revealing itself to be  more and more a story of overuse of the land,   disrespect for its resources, a warning to those  coming later about the dangers of pollution.   The story of Minecraft is one of protecting  the world that you've been given living in   harmony with it rather than fighting against  it, overusing it, milking it dry. Mojang has   been secretly hinting to us the truth of the  Nether for over two years with all of these   updates. But only now is it all starting to  come together. Only now is it making sense. No wonder the Piglins are so mad. Their home  was ruined. The builders turned the thermostat   up to inhumane degrees and then left it  all to burn. Now that they're attacking,   they're just bringing the fight to  someone else's turf. So the next   time you think about the Nether, remember  this hot place’s secretly cool origins.  But hey, that's just a theory! A  GAME THEORY! Thanks for watching. And if you like this theory, you can always  check out our last Minecraft theory where   we talked about how the ancient builders  completely wrecked The End. Seriously,   there's nothing that these guys aren't able to  ruin. Link to that video is on the left. Or you   could check out our deep dive into Netherite, what  it is and why it's so scarce. Spoiler alert. Also,   the ancient builders' fault. That video  is the one on the right. As always,   don't forget to subscribe and  I'll see you all next week.
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Length: 11min 36sec (696 seconds)
Published: Sun Dec 11 2022
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