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[Music] killer [Music] so would it good be honest with you this is your boy n-o-r-e what up it's dj efn hey this is drink champs yeah i'm gonna make some love now i'm gonna be honest i'm gonna be honest i'm gonna tell you straight up and down this is gonna be the easiest interviews we've ever had we've ever conducted and we've ever presented because i watched these these people's story for the last two days i know all these stories individually but collectively i gotta pick up i don't know whose idea it was to bring y'all five together even though the other person is there but it it's genius because at first i thought i was like damn they got too much history how can they fit it all in one thing oh it's a series okay boom even in the series how does it all make sense so if you watch one and two of the people that's coming out next week i believe three and four will be out by then it gets so crazy yeah like i'm telling you and i thought i thought like it was sacred like things were sacred people was something was off the table like they were they were giving it up yeah they're talking about from this is so these four individuals that's here right now it's very suddenly i get a chance to to sit in front of four individuals that i solely respect honor look up to and they're legends they ain't got no dirty jackets no dirty things on their back no no no [ __ ] brownie [ __ ] they're legends and they're good people and are in front of us and we're going to show them super [ __ ] love [ __ ] today but i'm so sorry i'm so sorry to start with you you but hit you with a kind of harsh question because as i'm as i'm looking on episode six yeah you guys said you you didn't see it um episode six it went into the nifty hustle rumors right and i had never heard that i had never heard of this conspiracy that the big you had that something to do with it right but let me ask you let me get to a little deeper question the rumor has it is that nick came up to this guy and said i can't hang with you or we can't be around because yeah he was he was a wrap right let me ask you a question it's kind of harsh was nipsey supposed to say that if you're not in the streets no more is is your opinion on the streets that valid i'm asking yeah i mean you got to understand it was two things what let me say let me ask you this because okay what bothers me the most when people say he got killed by one of his own homeboy but at some point he wasn't his homeboy why because you're like [ __ ] you ain't supposed to be here right if you fire somebody from drink champs right right and then [ __ ] pull back up to drinks that's why y'all feel me you're gonna be like [ __ ] when that disgruntled employee what that mean he wasn't home boy right wow like so they need to dead that part like he wasn't the homie right and then secondly no nips shouldn't address that because nip knew who he was right like the [ __ ] was they got like he worked for them grew up with nip and he really was his he was the man he like he was a guy he really was a shooter in the streets and secondly it ain't no paperwork on the man wow so i mean we have yet to find i'll tell you something that happened that day it happened what what what day let's see i think it was a sad sunday nipsey or something like that i got approached with that same situation that saturday dude came up to me on a restaurant i was trapped and he looked he felt and he said i'm gonna let you know right now people saying i'm i'm a rat and i was like oh [ __ ] like i didn't want to have this conversation and like he just sent it straight out and i was like oh [ __ ] he addressed me so i didn't have to address him but i thought to myself i thought about nissi immediately when that happened the next day i was like yo you know that could have that actual situation could have happened to me but as a rapper would i've been out of line to even question a real street dude i mean nip you gotta understand people want to remove separate nip from the streets you don't never really leave the streets like this where he grew up at this where he lived that's where his business was so really dude was in violation if you knew you rather not right if you know you're not rocking why you pull up in my space all right you know what i'm saying nip like [ __ ] free my space i ain't trying to go there with you but free my space and and and nip supposed to go there because that's where you meet the kids that's where he greet the people that's where he be he still stay grounded you know what i mean like if he don't go there no more he don't show up he these other things he'd leave l.a and move somewhere else in hollywood he ain't he just took pictures with some little babies wow that's the greatest thing i'm saying he had blessed a little girl and some more kids and was taking pictures with him that's what he's supposed to do he give him back you know what i mean his presence is gonna touch somebody else right so if elaine come up if they beefing whatever the reason is he don't have to be snitching enough to be whatever [ __ ] you just was mad at the world that he was mad at what the situation is i'm not gonna stop going to my neighborhood right i live in my neighborhood wow you know what i'm saying i live on the hill in my neighborhood i live up to where we always wanted to be you know we wanted to get to them houses up there so i got to the houses up there you know me but nah man i mean it's a force to think that violence ain't gonna follow you wherever it is right you know what i mean it's gonna follow you wherever they're gonna follow you and if it's meant for you to happen it's gonna hit you all right period as well now deb you got one of my favorite like bobby brown has my favorite uh cocaine story when he said he fried cocaine he fried chicken with cocaine and um i just thought that that was amazing like who has that much cocaine that they can visit with flowers i thought bobby brown had it until i heard your story down you know when i heard you sir i was like yo okay do you know the story no okay you got the chico you guys so this is this is all awesome and no which is really crazy because you know more than we know so the story is that dev they had so much heroin like in the house are you talking about the the baby powder yeah oh yeah that [ __ ] was white your mom's asked uh i think your brother your boyfriend's my father your father texts my dad you actually thought it was baby powder but it was a heroine [Applause] she had so much heroin in the house that they thought it was baby powder they put it on how so what what what do you knew that i was having how did you know because i didn't know nothing she was a kid and me and my cousin sharon just kept doing it but i really was going at it and putting it up yeah wow it absorbed and it was some real so so did you like oh you see you said your skin broke out or something like that no i was nodding all over the place i was throwing that because of the stuff that's how i learned about black chalk and it's crazy because as a kid i learned about that black chalk [ __ ] about them the stuff that they give you and all the things yeah yeah the stuff that they give you and i learned that there well inside of queen's general hospital at that time when we went in and i learned a lot of stuff and i remember my dad i could see him when he was there and he was talking he was talking whoever that you know it was like some doctors everybody was talking but then i remember when we left with god the back i was so drugged up you know oh wow and um it was crazy because my mother was like she was so angry because i got the blame for the [ __ ] that our husband did all right so after junkie she wants something to eat uh that wasn't my fault like i got blamed for going in there that's the same thing with with methadone thinking it's orange juice in your damn refrigerator you know what i said my mother used to have a [ __ ] in a damn refrigerator long time i couldn't that's why i'm like sunny delight i don't drink sunny delights listen first thing our parents it's something that you had to know during that time it's for so long i was so ashamed of so many things that went on with me but i was a product of my environment this is where i came from you know what i'm saying which was really really crazy because the bottles were sitting in the refrigerator remember i don't touch sunny the light because the stick just like that [ __ ] it is thick and i know we we had that before on a fetal position in the front of the house not knowing what the hell is going on you get the [ __ ] beat out of you what you beat my ass for i didn't know any better because you have to still understand during that time there was things that were still hidden from you you could not know things like a child was to be seen but never heard you couldn't and you could not discuss whatever went on in your household stay in your household you better not go outside and talk about none of this [ __ ] you couldn't talk about these things so those were all the things that were so deep but yet you have all these people from all this time that's being judged by all this thing think about like when i go into prisons and i talk to people men and women you know i cry with them because i overstand what you went through i thank god for the people that was out there that really looked out for me and taught me differently because when you was wanting to be lawyers and doctors i want to be the biggest dope dealer in the world god damn it like you couldn't be bigger than me and i was going to do something that no woman ever done these things that i was going to be able to do because i was taught early on you could not tell me nothing about my daddy and what he knew you understand what i'm saying how much cocaine did you do with bobby brown yo you know what's funny [Applause] so check it one thing i did because he pulled you out for two million dollars yeah you you was a good friend oh good deal i never sold none to my friends that's real that's true that's real you know i mean i told people i know that's right i mean you know me and bobby we never you know did drugs i never sold a drug this one time i seen bobby he got out of betty ford watch out that's a hot bottle yeah i know that okay he's in the he's in that oh no we don't like that we don't have any shirts here baby please you know we in the limo one day and um i'm in the back seat with him he in the middle my other man here two other guys here this is model dude he likes can do i forgot his name and he hadn't passed bobby a joint but it was laced okay and there's wulas back there so when he when he when he tapped it i mean i mean i'm by the window and i grabbed him and i said yo i never believed what i heard you doing that [ __ ] in front of me all right your husband you know i don't miss it you threw it out the window wow you know what i mean so i'm condoning my friends i'm expecting that let's have a drink like i was in boston because you know i i was a bad kid as usual got sent down to dorchester and that's when i first met them with before there was anything families are so much alike is pathetic wow and they became like family ties literally even though bimmy was dipping and dabbing over there but they were like family get them down and for every one of them is one of us right yeah we were so much alike and outside of what people here in the media when you learn these people like niffy you know what i'm saying like getting to sit with her really and who she is the real person who she is you know and who she really was when i look at her and i look at people like look at this singer but nobody knew she really wanted to be a veterinarian she didn't want to be a singer so if you really sat down with her and took yeah she wanted to be a veterinarian she didn't want to be a singer you understand what i'm saying so it's because of the family and all the stuff that was there when the media sensationalized so many things and you don't really know that person just like each one of us like you'll hear whatever you hear in the streets whatever you hear the media the social media [ __ ] but you don't really know us exactly exactly make some noise for that that was hard that was all so let me ask you a quick check because i don't understand what is the no-fly zone what is what does that mean because i mean i've come to detroit and had marvelous times but that was just fun what is people what is what what is this no fly it was for record labels okay record labels used to have like street teams and it was back in the anr days you know they would have a promo team take the artists you know a r take the artist to different locations and it was like they were just coming to detroit and wasn't picking up nothing it was like they would charge the local artists to perform they would charge the local artist to perform the local artists would bring 20 30 40 50 60 people sometimes to this event that will pay to get in it's like how is you charging them and they bringing you revenue wow you know and then you know when it kept happening with the little homies and they was just doing it because they got money like you know [ __ ] that man yeah yeah they're on stage technically exactly it was radio as well like you know the summer jams events didn't consist of all the of mostly detroit artists they consist of everybody from everywhere else and the detroit artists would get charged and i was like [ __ ] that stop everything and the only entertainment around this [ __ ] gonna be what's here right so we're gonna get acquainted with what we got around these corners and then we'll start letting a few trinkles in one at a time and if anybody violate it we'll deal with that accordingly you know because what's youngberg like the first one like i think he was he took his chain on tour no he's his he was like a little you know he was just bumping his [ __ ] gums on some other [ __ ] with my cousin you know what i'm saying they didn't have nothing to do with when that happened to him bro i was over there talking to his bodyguard oh really during his assault i was having a conversation with his bodyguard because his bodyguard was trying to bring a pistol in my club and i had a rule the only pistol packing in this [ __ ] is gonna be me or the police or my security okay so dude was trying to say he worked for the dea and all this i'm like dude i know this guy cuz you know it's basically pick up a local security so i'm like no bro you know basically you cannot bring the pistol in here chill don't worry about it now the artist then came in the door and went further down the miss vestibule the balcony rather i'm still behind my bar right next to the freak ice freezer all right talking to him on the other side of the bar a fight broke out down that way i moved him out the way ran down there i seen one of my little homies with a jiggle he coming in for the and i hey now i wrapped him up what the [ __ ] is you doing hey y'all get this [ __ ] out of here everybody get the [ __ ] out get it out turn back around went back over to where the bodyguard was at and started having to continue my conversation his phone rang he did like this and took off running out the door the security that security no bird security that's what i mean so he came back his name was or franz or some [ __ ] like that he came back in and he said that was bird and i said who is bird he said that was bird that just took his chain i was like well [ __ ] i'm standing there talking to you what are you telling me about what so later on one of my other little homies very very close little homie pool came to me and it's like look i got that big big homie and i said get that [ __ ] out of here because to me that's evidence in the assault and robbery right so get the [ __ ] out of here the little homies start having their own little quarrel about it who's gonna get it who was gonna say all right tell you what ain't nobody gonna take it i got it we ain't gonna do that over this [ __ ] i'll take it i took it home put it in the [ __ ] tile closet okay trying to picture it all right let's go whole closet top shelf house no it was glass and stainless steel so i took it so i went to the studio normal course of business and my older sister monique called me and she said you know your daughter on the internet with some chain i said my sister's an evangelist so she don't know none of this [ __ ] she said i've been getting calls that your daughter lemony is on the internet with some chain or something and i'm like i just dropped my hair like no [ __ ] way like so i called and she sent me the picture i called my daughter put her on an immediate six-month punishment anybody another cup after i got it from after little bro picked it up from the little homies first little bro took a picture in the diesel he took a picture with it on i think that night or the next night in that picture boom i'm like [ __ ] that's when i tell him bro it's evidence all right no not this bro somebody hacked in my phone blah blah blah then i took it and took it home then my sister called me said my daughter then i went home grabbed the [ __ ] shirt grabbed the [ __ ] chain brought it to the studio and called all the homies and said everybody come up here right now and take a picture with this piece of [ __ ] so we're not going to have just my household but you finna get everybody so you know you got two old white ladies with it on you got the other guys and they take listen you take a picture you can take it outside you get in your car and take a picture with it you get in the back of your pod we took the [ __ ] on tour because it became a piece of the show novelty during this song i got called you can get [ __ ] up with diesel walk off the stage and me and my dj baby bro dj thriller have a little conversation right quick and then it's like cause you can get [ __ ] up and when the beat and these will come out there with the [ __ ] on and the audience erupted every time i remember my ice cube was like hey man i don't know if y'all should be out here with jake i know he's going to be mad at me how many chains have you got returned oh [ __ ] that's like lost in this [ __ ] it's like it's like you just lost the family all over not just los angeles [ __ ] you think you're in the hospital get [ __ ] back all the way in canada yeah yeah we got a little squad out there in canada yeah i mean it's almost everywhere wow it's almost like any big change you got back or like jewelry or some [ __ ] bro i'll be getting [ __ ] back and i don't even know i get it back [ __ ] just lying say i called yo like i know [ __ ] did a robbery out of somebody's house for 500. all right and and the little [ __ ] then gave the money back to him because because they used my name and then i call them fine our women they literally let me know we gave them money back so you gave what money back and i'm mad because i don't give money back you can get jewelry it's so crazy it's so crazy because how well this documentary makes so much sense right it's because people don't know that about the four of us and you got to call it something better than a documentary i man like listen bro listen i i i want you to finish i started out knowing it was gonna be good because i know y'all stories and i love like i said whoever's at fx i don't know what kind of connection i got there but they the way they lined it up we had a hell of a team listen listen we had a hell of a team the two episodes they do is just to grab you in yeah and then once you win it's that episode three where haitian jack starts talking about pop and you can tell he ain't forgive him and it's like did y'all start going deep and deep and i was just like yo how they put it together because like i said like bimmy's a a story by itself you're a story by itself you're a movie by itself you're a movie by yourself for them to put it together and perfectly intertwined yeah they tie you all together the way they tie that [ __ ] together and in every state it's like it was crazy because y'all five people doesn't touch every state only i'm winning the run in atlanta though i don't know why every everybody wanted to run in atlanta like that's amazing everybody ran into atlanta what the hell was going on it's black it's black method man wow but you know what's crazy the craziest thing in even for me this was very therapeutic for me wow because i didn't even talk about the situation being able to talk about it it was like opening pandora's box and releasing [ __ ] up out of there because coming from the era that we came from you don't talk but then you really even though you know about you really start learning things right like even for him like i love this [ __ ] but i started saying after i started looking at this what the hell was wrong with you saying something to this man he could have really did something to you because he's really out to lunch but gangsters is most gentlemen like when i see somebody who's loud boisterous and trying to be tough it's usually the guy i i look over the real dude this is the one holding that elevator for you holding the groceries for your mom don't say the [ __ ] that's nice i'm like my daddy that's the killer right there go um but like i said like into twice so i just wanted you to finish up so about the jury thing and and you said it's just not in los angeles no it's not just in life you get caught everywhere like literally even for me i've got calls in the middle of the night like this one got me explaining but they really was going through it but calling you in the middle of the night two three o'clock in the morning four o'clock in the morning your phone ringing like put you up and and they know i'm just still not gonna do that so don't try it norrie i'm not gonna throw people under the bus okay some [ __ ] go to my grandmother but they don't know woman like yo what's up what you doing you know being able to call somebody and to do these things like it's crazy it's crazy because a lot of people went through a lot of things and especially a lot of them that run around here like that gangsta it comes from because i was just with i was just with my homeboys they ride on motorcycles they do the red they they wear brushes too i've seen you yeah yeah all right and when i go to when i go to certain places like if i go to atlanta i check in with beard right that's my long blue okay and he asked me with a lot of stuff but it's a lot of these youngsters who come into the game like she'll tell you they never had more than fifteen hundred dollars in their life all right they get a song or get hot they get fifteen thousand now a hundred thousand they bring a whole squad with them in a hidden city in the city right and then next day you know you somewhere and you see these youngsters they on the east side at waffle house or there um dad um where where i see y'all there where i see y'all look um no no y'all's at um what's name restaurant oh um with tiffson he got tiff's son okay and they had um hey on the east at roscoe's they're on the east side of roscoe's i'm walking roscoe's on some different business because some other [ __ ] didn't happen and i come in here to take care of some other business with some we we ain't even it ain't no nice business right i walk in roscoe's he in there [Applause] wow wow and take out a little son what the [ __ ] is y'all doing here i can't tell i said what nothing them doing here they don't have no clue where they are where they are yeah they just did right they thinking this rascals you had the wrong roster there's two more three more roscoes golden ones either one by my neighborhood but what i'm saying is this is our babies so if he get a tool or something he ain't got to call him it's going to be my problem regardless right but he in the wrong [ __ ] place at the wrong [ __ ] time and now all these k all the dudes out there looking like i had to tell nephew i said man i called his daddy and said man to this thing don't be just running around here like this you know what i mean what's he good is his city but they end up in the wrong places they get a bad they get a little bit they moving and i have to call you know what i call it daddy so this happens every single day in their life and it happens more than you even hear about it right so when you say it's an appropriate question how many you get back bro i get them back and they don't even know about it and then you know what happens after they get another crew they meet some dudes from out there from the town they side up and now they forget they know your name and tell them [ __ ] that they [ __ ] with the robbers [ __ ] i don't fall out because they know something somebody did to you they were like yo guess where i'm at yo guess who's in here with me right now yo i got this [ __ ] if you want it what's up just tell me though they just want you to just give the okay just say get it right yeah that's all you get they just want you to just say it and it's just funny because you might even be talking [ __ ] and don't even know who you near why you don't know because nobody talks nobody say nothing it's amazing to me how i could sit there and say [ __ ] the people that you said right you don't even know who you was talking to wow you don't even know that i was on the phone listening to the [ __ ] you were saying and i could have said get them i have a driver that a few drivers and uh and police officers that call me and say hey you cool with this dude oh yeah because he just knows that we picking him up detroit detroit the whole like i feel like you still get people that come in there and like just you know but that's fine i i ain't worried about you the point is you there and you haven't thought to try to find me and somebody is on your ass already but every time i hung out with you you're a cool [ __ ] why would this wouldn't hit you up this there's a couple i need everybody everybody you made the phrase yes that was beverly yes oh g o 18 yes when l first presented that you what's the god cause i've heard you say it i've heard it's been thrown around but seeing you say it on that fox screen on that fx screen i had to think i said you wait a minute i need to ask this so so l comes to you no he didn't come to me we just come from cali okay we was on the plane okay i mean yeah i was going back to california in new york or something like we can see here my seat here clearly you're a first class yeah so we're trying to figure out a name for the album so we're going back and forth with names so then he said he his last name i remember he said general ukram bay i don't know who the hell that is but he said that he wasn't calling that yeah yeah he said that everybody knew i played ball i'm a ball player yeah so one of my idols is earl the goat man ago so then i said that was with he was using the gold ass girl to go no he said i heard him say muhammad ali the greatest of all time but one thing he did say he did say he agreement said greatest of all time he did say that you know what i mean but when i oh no oh ll said that okay hello said when i said the goat i said yo you're the goat you know what i'm saying i thought a minute ago all right and then he broke down the left he broke down the letters you know he's you know and then when i came to the building you know how i go you're going to tell to the president's like yo that's the name of the album so then you know your boy jay-z got [ __ ] [ __ ] like the gold discrepancy was what was the discovery no because he called himself the goat oh yeah yeah yeah so a lot of rappers was mad yeah i mean he talked about it i'm like [ __ ] them [ __ ] man you know i mean like we we need a goat bro you to go all right now another thing you said another thing hold on i'm gonna cut you okay i'm gonna tell people how many you met [ __ ] man i ain't gonna lie [ __ ] man i don't know my little man e in a wheelchair okay he moved in your side okay yeah yeah you got a problem okay i brought two guys over there okay i came over there and now you was i know and i said and he said you can't mean you got a steering max okay we just looked at each other like like on some [ __ ] like but we ready you ready because you was by yourself you walked up by yourself okay and you was right and i was like he was like yo no no no he's good but you know he told you you know he good yeah and we and we squashed yeah let me just tell you something this was this was something that touched me of course was when because i didn't know how much you deserve to be in depth jam like i thought you just used the gangster just being hyped right but when you said how deep he was in the game where tina davis actually you said this is you actually named you gotta say that you got always next weekend you actually named her name you said tina davis and then you said you went in her office and to your face you said yeah i don't want you to have these artists like how you had these other artists yeah yeah was that the first time you like that's industry [ __ ] it's industry one on one you know what's crazy me and tina had a great relationship wow like i go to a crib i don't smoke weed right i go to a crib and smoke weed because she came from l.a she had nobody no family so you know i became a family right so i come to a crib i'm in her room you know smoking no no sexual nothing none of that i mean it's just cool because she's you know she's a boss she's my boss so i mean i got real tight we go to try to find a movie theater you know we do a lot of things together so one day um dub scenes with them dubstep double she likes the west coast no i flew to the west coast first yeah and then i mean they'll see back in the chain chain on sunset you know we vibing we're going can we just meet him so we're going through our thing with all he said we gotta go to florida to the circle house so we're gonna circle house in florida and dub dubstin said yo my [ __ ] tina wants to work together something like huh so caught me by surprise wow so now i'll get back to new york i go to kevin loves i see okay i should team and tell my artists they don't want to work with me he said yo i mean i gotta work that out all right i go to tina yo tina why are you telling artists that you don't want to work with me all right now tina says you ain't gonna have him where you got everybody on the label right you still have a documentary but i don't understand what you mean by that what is it everybody like everybody know my background but they've seen the records i'm putting out and they see right and he was busting ass yeah but so ann vanzetta used the whole album and i got caught out there because i went to leo they gave me a point on every album right and then and he's i said yo i ain't getting no [ __ ] extra money [ __ ] is going platinum [ __ ] is and he said you gotta do a diamond to get money off these albums with a point they ever go diamond they have 10 million to me you know what i mean for me to get some extra money because i'm like [ __ ] the only one doing 10 million is the the white people you know i'm not you know me so so um so boom so kev kev i was going to meetings i was llc l you know i mean i'm not going back there else it ain't giving you worth anyway so i so i say i'm not going to work yeah but my point is like was that the first time you you felt like oh this this is not the streets you know what i'm saying because you know like that that [ __ ] is kind of standard in the industry it's just look at you smiling in your face and as soon as you turn around stab you in the back like in the in like on the streets that's violation but here like that that was my biggest transition was like yo i can't i can't strangle everybody that you know what i mean like so was that their first industry moment oh okay it was it was like really the beginning because where i come from it's really trenches so when i be around you you you know come on you guys so you know you're going to build you you know how to pipe down you know how to just sit back and just you know be quiet right you know watch the [ __ ] would you like but those don't come near you know me but you like but you got to take it i'm in meetings this guy's talking on a term this girl talking he's just looking at all them like but you ain't but even when i see kaiser he he would say to me like i know you you're my kind i didn't know you you're not supposed to know like jack said like haitian jack said you ain't supposed to know so i'm not coming in here on some [ __ ] i know us at this table we all black ball already before we come in the building like how you just said you just said that you street you ain't you know me you know i mean that's how we've always been so conscious question let me check let me answer this because this is just some real less cheap like when you're talking about the industry and some other streets right most of the people that's in there they use the streets inside of the building yeah so how do you not how do you not handle them that way when you know where they really come from but you know what they really turned into i i i empt up in there one time inside i was so goddamn mad at the [ __ ] that they was doing and i called somebody uncle tom and they everybody at the table turned around you should have seen how they looked at me they was pissed off oh god i'm drawing i'm trying but you know [Laughter] why would you say that the [ __ ] you mean why would i say that right you know what i'm saying like this gonna sit up bitch-ass do this [ __ ] you know what time it is but this is what you're gonna do to me but you know what they want you to do and you're gonna actually come in my face and try to pacify me when i know what [ __ ] time it is so how do you ignore something like that when you know where they came from you know how they're playing you you know why they're hired right to come and appease you to try to shut you down and slow you down and it became bad because me being a woman that came in there first when i came in at first they didn't know they didn't put two and two together right that i was his big sister yeah i didn't too recently because you you're both legends are separated so i know her story on her own and this is like that just make it on top like that then it's that's been me so after a while because the first time i bucked up in there yeah what was talking about in the car first time i bucked up in there yeah todd and i ain't gotta got that problem saying next week but he started his [ __ ] and that's when i flipped out wow you know what i'm saying they knew and that's when they brought him up like oh you know that's that's his sister you know what i'm saying but we different people we different people you know so it was just it was just crazy and then from this when okay we gotta get up out of here we gotta move away from everybody we gotta do it cause you can't play with me or when they came to me and like did one these things like here just sign over on this and we do this and this is we gon give you is it harder because like at one point you had you had like the three artists you discovered the three biggest one three of the biggest artists you had uh gucci uh nikki and french right is it harder because you're a woman or dude see i've never i never looked at it like that you have to understand even if you listen to me i didn't run with women right i had women that i was around like if you tell some of them they're gonna look at you each one of them will tell you something different like i learned the amount of lives that i lived and i learned that how it was being the multiple people that i was it was is really really crazy i hung out with men i did a lot of [ __ ] i was right behind him and [ __ ] he didn't even know stuff that was going on with some of them [ __ ] and the stuff that the [ __ ] was coming to me she told prince one day a praying oh i went to him because they came to me but i live with him yeah that's this is another thing that's so crazy well even when you say this is wild right now crazy good point bless your heart bless your heart but this is another thing that's like so ill that when you're doing all of this stuff like even in this music industry like you're talking about ella you tell my detroit you tell me how to land you to my new york you talk about going into the states i remember like especially with gucci because you know everybody named mother want to hit his ass you know what i'm saying but i remember we was in the airport and i'm going down the escalator because it was so crazy this down the airplane i said after [ __ ] we go to new york tomorrow whatever but i get a phone call and it said yo you got one da da da da da da your flight is da da da da da you coming into da da da da and they come beside just got the call and they said they had to hold up your sister's with them but you put on something my [ __ ] you know where i come from you just didn't know who i was oh do you understand what i'm saying and you went to put this order out on him but that phone call came to queens letting my other brother know your sister's coming in and this is what they they doing he said deb is in the airport right now coming over we're gonna let dab no now we making a call now this whole thing could have backed up and backfired on you cause we held that kind of weight like that and it's like dad what's up like once i crawled in like are you serious you you know what i'm saying so you don't know but that's the order because we didn't go through burrows we just didn't go through manhattan to do so and i ran everywhere i was in multiple gangs when i came up i was in multiple games even when the fight was i could sit in the on the bench watching everybody fight against each other because i was cool with everything how many jackets did i have okay i was cool with everyone but you know what i'm saying so i was in a bunch of different things i ain't a real quick person yeah it was crazy like the stuff that i was doing all the different things that i've made but i never went somewhere like even in detroit i feel like the president of the united states not coming to detroit the way they come to the airport to come get me the way that they are there i get crazy lovingly so i love these detroit's airport though yeah airport that's what gotta be the harvest airport you gotta fly that's like i can't go into his city and put something together that he's doing it's disrespectful i don't think it is here we go it make people think you know like you have to like they punks if they do it yeah but that's why i said take out a pencil and pad and take notes because we're going to take you back to school and hope that you get educated with this this ain't got nothing to do with that i don't care about answering to somebody that i need to yeah this is queens is the biggest barrel right queens i used to break down queens like the buses and the trains because remember we're all the trains left right queensbridge uh astoria uh what side but dennis apart you get to parsons boulevard you only take the dollar vans or the buses so that's how i break down queens i'm dyslexic right so i see the queen's buzzer and at one point going to south jamaica you just couldn't go to south jamaica unless you had a friend you couldn't go to 40 projects you couldn't go to busy i had to have my friend or my cousins or my uncle or somebody and i had to hit them and there was nothing wrong with that but it was everything that was going on over there it was organized and then being organized it was also protected right you understand what i'm saying we was on all sides because we was on the north side and the south side we came from both sides wow you understand what i'm saying too right but coronda was really me wow wow corona was me oh wow okay okay yeah it's like like i did a lot of stuff in corona but it's like literally we could go everywhere and then we had a sister that was international like she was everywhere there's a movie about your family yeah it's like she was shoes everywhere you got to make a video just about your family bro like it was like just yeah it was it was crazy but it was the corruption that we were still under because you had to understand and it was multicultural but it was great i mean like you just said we got make a movie i got like five sisters right you know one night i'm in the crib mike tyson is banging on with them [Music] mike they don't want mike tyson they don't want dmc they don't want dave edwards who played georgetown she made music in my mother's living room right and right inside there with his big 40 ounce 8-0 800 you look like the fourth member of one do you see that one boy yo you know what's crazy leo cohen he shot kicked me and kirk me and hurricane with the tour he tried to take you off the table yeah because he's the difference people did so so me and kane i got the right side king of the left side so so run look at it you know through the mic like let's see him and we like we got him right so we so he an audience so now the dude throws some more chains me and hurricanes run across these things diving audience gets them we do what we got to do now we're dragging them out right so now i got his legs hurricane got his top he's out he knocked him out and everything so we we dragging them out so mookie and garfield that got there so looking garfield they said yo let them go give me them go let them go let them go right so now they were ll they ain't with us we were running them seeing ella cruz on the tour too so um i said yo by the way how crazy is crazy he's saying that like it's like [ __ ] you know you know things like this yeah i'm sorry i'm sorry but life is not right man your life is dope yeah you know uh he didn't drop his legs i dropped a [ __ ] on his head wow [ __ ] boom so now four days later i can get into that yeah all it teaches you listen one of the things that happens as this go on as the years go on the history changes because they changed the history okay apartment you'll put it like this i checked in with you coming here i was calling you every time i came here you had the weed in the ecstasy let's see i'm cool [Music] because the thing about it is if i don't know nobody there you know what i did if this place is and i'd love to see this place this place is in dusu dorm germany you can live the same way everywhere you have to understand that even for me as the woman and what they were so upset about [ __ ] with y'all to understand the streets had me i was good to them and they said good to me i didn't act like i didn't know them because i remember where i came from i'll never forget where i come from because i could always go back there everything that goes up comes down and everything and everybody has an expiration date do you understand what i'm saying so i want to be able to go wherever i can go and be that same person if you see me in a dollar tree don't ask me what the hell i'm doing in here what the hell you doing in i'm saying i'm there what you're doing don't ask me that if you see me a warmer speak to me don't steal me like i'm some kind of freak and you gotta be looking at me saying damn what happened you know what i'm saying there's something wrong with my weird crooked and something happening like what's going on can you stitch like you're crazy or i think you would be up in here well what job you got thinking well let me here's the question for all of y'all it's a question and i'm ready for a shout out to that i think this question with all of y'all do y'all realize that y'all are celebrities too like yo it's not a celebration time now a celebrity is about celebration to me and what do you celebrate i'm not ready to celebrate that i got to do this i don't know what that means what does that mean what i mean is this people who want to be you once does this person that wants to be you you're a celebrity like when there's a look there's there's a girl somewhere um that's going to say no i'm going to do a real show i'm going to do a real shout out get [ __ ] i'm going to do a rush not disrespect that goddamn drink on camera when you just told him don't mix the damn drinks the shampoo in there but it doesn't hurt [Applause] i knew what it our show was about giving people their flowers when they're alive okay so many people they're getting this game 10 years or more and they say that they washed up and they say that they over we want to push the narrative against that when we got 10 years or more in this game we want to say you seasoned that's right you understand i'm saying you well groomed and we want to salute you all for you i'm a fan of all y'all individually like i said i can't believe and haitian jack jack guess what i still love you but i need you to understand something because i can't let [ __ ] go just okay let's go okay okay i'm in i mean let's go because you said how easy we was we knocked that easy that's the good thing about it i'm still oh you misunderstood this is what happens i told him to pull me a shot but what i was going to do was take shots at ace of spade which is not really a shot already yeah so you want a basement so no he wasn't there he was doing something else right all right okay here you go punishment be nice be nice i love you more be nice i gotta do this oh one more thing okay let's go when you said you want to give everybody flowers right out of here right i try to be funny but yeah you did not pour this drink for me no i don't know okay you did but it's not careful because somebody if y'all switch it up somebody could think you pulled my drinking dick oh so now you just took a shot for me my drink was pretty thank you so i'm gonna give it to him yo what's going on jack it's nori man i just watched our show what's up baby what's up i just watched your show man let me ask you real quick cause you know you're the only one that's not here but what made you want to do the show period well you know thank you called me a couple of times on it and uh he told me it was going to be something different and special but at the time i also had something else i was going to do so but make you convinced he said listen man this is only going to help whatever you're going through down the line and i'm glad i listened to him and look at his advice and did this first because now it it propels me into other things you understand what i'm saying right so definitely i'm glad he stayed on top of me and made me do this you know because it was the right move okay i got another question for you too now in the in the documentary you addressed the tupac situation for the first time the first time ever you actually addressed the situation you know i'm saying everyone always wanted to know that and was that tough for you or that was something that it felt good after you got it off your chest listen i always wanted to tell a story the problem is this you'll never be able to change tupac fans minds on whatever box say it's almost like the trump fans that still believe he won the presidential race everything goes down who did what right right so they don't want to listen to him because he didn't say that jack was involved right you understand right so i think anybody who know me like acon told him the other day if i do something to you right i will tell you i didn't right you understand why because i don't care about what another [ __ ] want to do in these streets because we can go head up or you got to suit up and i'm with you right then you do but as long as the statue of limitation ran out and i don't have to worry about the law i'll tell the world i did it and i'm still telling you i didn't do it and i had nothing to do with it wow now this last question this is the last question cause i know you know you remotely um did you really have madonna on eating jerk chicken in flatbush yeah right next to um to the comedy club right next on 217 and london we went all over listen my dad that's a real chick dog she's not afraid to call no hood wow because one of my partners squeezed the ass in uh in manhattan she said hey [Laughter] [Applause] yo yo well respect haitian jack we're giving you your flowers you know what i'm saying um you know what we we gonna [ __ ] around and come see you in dominican republic drink chats man we will let you know baby all right respect respect my brother all right all right oh my god so that goes that's the perfect alley you to you in another world in another world you a hazy jack might have not been cool and i'm gonna tell you why just go ahead and do your thing i'm gonna tell you why you got those two you got those two records lined up i want this i made these just i mean it's for everybody but i want you to just these two records real quick one more house you make me look crazy i told you how this [ __ ] lined up look we got ghetto ass engineers yeah that's all it's all about everyone everyone and we all go through the same [ __ ] man we go through it when what the internet is so powerful now with ignorance i'll trade you i'll trade you let me let me smoke that on camera yeah you got to do it i'll try man i don't even know if you got good weed in that [ __ ] but i'm gonna just try something all right hey you want the blunts yeah [Music] you and it's just feeding off what jack's saying the ignorance is the english on the internet is so so crazy and i wouldn't even feed it to it but like we were just talking thank you jacking some [ __ ] they're cute accused me they really didn't accuse me the media never really brought into it just to social media and this is like a social media platform right a [ __ ] could be in jail for something right had a reason why he did it but the boogeyman got to be big you yeah all right like man who's staying the game from it go deal with the people who stay in the game the [ __ ] who got his back who take care of his purse who doing all that what about the [ __ ] you know what i mean how do i you know me my man came and got me when he when he got on when he got on the first time he got me popped yeah yeah he was the first one before the first one to bring me into the music business he saw the management skills that you exactly exactly and then and then it went from there then i went to prison doing what i was doing and and and with me where i love jack is and what [ __ ] is so funny and jack don't tell a story we couldn't get the story in to add the gesture jack was in la up until 2014. no he says it on the documentary oh i don't know no no but he's not it's not really said wow so all the la [ __ ] need to realize this [ __ ] was this [ __ ] was in l.a to 2014 wow running one of the biggest dives in l.a where [ __ ] had to pay to come to i'm gonna say that again what's the doc i don't know i've never seen him you're bored bro yeah i'm trying to make it he was running he was running uh um out in the marina 2014 wow i come home in 2004 the mail was on 10 years i didn't even know it you have a backpack oh i never left pocket all of that was like i said it hold running at death row run i was gone i left in 1991 wow and then people always talk about that okay i got about 2 000 no 2004 2004 so you got to remember when i said that about sugar shook in the in the whole death row movement was after the riots right after the riots there was a peace treaty movement that everybody in the city started letting people going places right before that it was my world now i'm listening to 100 and i want no no money [ __ ] like other [ __ ] was getting money i already was getting i was getting money and i was getting paid by every [ __ ] in the city damn me if they was getting money so if he was getting money he was already in the bag he was paying me ten thousand a month [ __ ] are you ready for the next record make sure you lined up this time man you may make me [ __ ] up how did this artist make this right if something happens to you i don't give a [ __ ] who what when where or how okay [ __ ] gonna turn you against everything until you get understanding pinpoint black i'm not even trying to understand what the [ __ ] happened and i'm really not even caring if you have something to do with it [ __ ] you ain't turning again but [Music] a california guy nobody [ __ ] that can't break it down you've been to new york for 20 years this [ __ ] in l.a right now that's claiming the fame off of other [ __ ] [ __ ] but then there's real things in la who really should be getting that and they don't get it bring me back to this show right here bring me back to the show these people right here i could have put a whole lot of people on this show but i need to i don't want the [ __ ] who's filthy rich it don't fit the storyline i need that [ __ ] who lost something i need the [ __ ] who like her i need kids i need trigger i need the [ __ ] i want to tell you together okay this is the first time in history right you have the east coast the west coast the midwest the south yeah you have all these places on one yeah because you can stop too yeah but you have to look at this we're all the same people right that we had common denominators that that's why i said take out a pencil and pat and take notes because even when my son when wu was looking at this and he broke this thing down to me like my kids are my sons even though they knew i did things but they didn't know what i did i had to prepare them for a lot of things also because they didn't know what the hell i did you know what i'm saying they just knew that there was some things going on right you know what i'm saying their mother was rugged or whatever but they just didn't know because the child was to be seen and not heard but all of us let me bring this to you when i come home right now remember i get out of prison 2004 i just did three years and nine months in the california shooting right that's that's the that's that's the home that's the whole other so when i come home when i come home in 2004 it's the whole world now this is moving like this i don't have no clue who nobody is i don't even know who disliked who i don't even know like what's on poom and um brianna flop me to new york and it's my first time in new york in i don't know how many years are we on prescott brianna prescott fly me to new york hold on come on i'm just moving so that's how i'm meeting [ __ ] but then i'm seeing all the different beasts that's going on in new york and nars [ __ ] from this from somebody was uh was lucas was had that at that time t.i was on his way out um hip-hop beeps and i'm looking at all these [ __ ] and i'm saying all these things got these all securities like and i was just tripping off like this nigga's an ex basketball player what is he really gonna do and this [ __ ] so i'm looking at all this [ __ ] and i'm saying to myself like i'm fresh out of prison i'm ready and i'm saying to myself like what a hip hop where the thug's at what a real street nigga's at they didn't handle yeah so then i'm moving along and now i'm i'm i'm looking for the real [ __ ] in hip-hop i see a lot of things that could be gay yeah a lot of it could be whatever hey you know but i don't find that sugar's gone that's my phone shield is gone okay doing four years right he's still at yeah he come on five months after i come on but when i was home it was a whole lot of weird [ __ ] so i was kind of like standoffish in this [ __ ] so i [ __ ] with my dog for a while we should and here go here i see y'all playing ping pong we did i [ __ ] with you for like three years then i would have gotten it just throw it out there bust your ass in the pink park just throw it out there so yeah new york with corrupt in miami it was still [ __ ] who was tripping off of corrupt meal for uh what was that [ __ ] kicking the building over new york when he never even meant to diss y'all i know i know he said he didn't do that he said no i didn't know that until after you know you know that's my best friend back then y'all thought it was we didn't we thought it was the same way all right so we all [ __ ] now take you back to the pocket all right for a movie that dominated everything because remember musically we we dominated films right the west coast right we gathered we dominated the film world like boys in the hood dope boys boys boys society all that domination that took our culture around the world doughboy was based on your life no doubt went out it was just all of us was like all of us had jerry girls in the hood and but it was it was shot in the 60s in our neighborhood where john singleton grew up at so it was shot two blocks from my house on my big homie street like where i grew up at and it's right on around the corner so i can walk and it'll take me four minutes five minutes of walking not even five minutes two three minutes walking to be on the street where they shot it the whole movie was shot in our neighborhood wow and the crazy thing when they shot the [ __ ] we didn't have no idea it was going to be coming at us wow he like accidents do we want to be in the maybe we have so much money they will buy that movie what are you talking about but let me finish though so you compared that to pop what but y'all clock life okay y'all tripped up some [ __ ] who wasn't even who was trying to show y'all respect yeah hell all right i was the guy who did la yes you were yes you are [Applause] the real story is didn't know david's dissing we didn't know but we wanted to respond because we we so it wasn't for the video because the video what happened they came out there this is true [ __ ] wasn't responding they can't be filming that here and they call the radio and we don't know what happened now hold on let me stop you right there again i'm taking over the show okay that's right so now who called what biggie did call the radio like um we had that so if the west coast was to feel a certain kind of way would that be right yeah okay but the thing was the thing was um and this is it's going to take was hurt bro cause corrupt took so much beef because he lost all of the east coast all right you gotta remember y'all destroyed corrupt money after we squashed it we squashed it once once you we squash it that's it corrupt still made a record i hate this yeah notice foxy brothers after some foxy brown [ __ ] he made it right he diss everybody i'm gonna tell you a story this is how i knew you [ __ ] really might not go back to the the big okay i got you i got you you gotta stay on his head let me tell you no way i just told you so after that after we squash it we squash it this is it like when we watch the squash he flies to philly the plane overheats he has to land in new york he just this dmx he just there's rough riders he just dis all these dudes my album release party billy he lands and hit me yo i can't put this on you homie but i'm in your city i'm in new york i'm about to get to philly but i got to call you pick the [ __ ] up blessing with the things i tried to put up yeah look at that another time that's a whole nother time but um i tried it i already caught it was so freezing the only coat i had was a bright red yankee jacket and this is what i knew these [ __ ] said nope i got that thing you freeze it out here he just makes this record he said because i can't go to no new york club after i just made this i i know i was wrong for making it but i said yo you with me he said the story and i brought him to carbon but oh yeah i looked at like the most traitorous new york dude was like give us the steak i was like nope he's with me and that was it [Music] but when the video came out and the buildings was kicked down that's when we changed our video if you listen to the song the song has nothing to do with a disc it's just la la it just responded what was the intention to respond in response to what because that's what it was right there but respond to what they really call that video though let's be clear missing yeah they wasn't together like uh snoop corrupt yeah and then we wasn't on the same page it was one block oh they was like it was like yeah yeah with that rubber we ain't got no beef with them right and and corrupt was on his way out the door right behind drake right at the time so so it was really only going to be uh uh snoop were the only one being left on death row they was really not together at that moment wow so when they was trying to make a song to show them that they had respect for them they took it the other way and this is what i'm trying to get him to hold up because looking at your story i said i said yo i've never i've never been in a roller city i got i've never been to the actual rolling 60s hood and before i could even finish my thought i said they could corrupt your friend that's the hood you went to corrupt brought me through there and i ain't a lot and it's a trade next to that yeah they it's not it's between them it's it's a couple of one or two sets right before we get to no i'm tripping yeah the [ __ ] it is because it's like what's up right monster was otherwise okay i remember reading monster cody's book right when i read this [ __ ] and then when i went to grow up with a hood we went to get weed or some [ __ ] and he was like just a 60s cup and i was just like this just was a different neighborhood like it's like like you guys like like same thing being supreme team like like what kind of is that a plus or minus being so notorious like that is a gift and curse but the thing that's so ill listening to everything you guys are saying right here and for everybody that's going to see this right we do think about the amount of people's lives that could have been saved had we not reacted a certain kind of way and that's why it's important for these stories to be told and even for me while one i'm sick of people they're lying answers you don't know damn thing about me but you see me know me better than me sometimes i tell people one day i want to meet her because i don't know who you know i only know who i am but just think about the stuff even stuff that people might have to say about me you don't even goddamn know me but you have all these things to say about me because of something that someone said so now you're gonna be in agreement with them you understand what i'm saying so just think about the reaction to you that broke this kid out of them all cause you know those are the ones that's gonna kick off first anyway yeah you know what i'm saying cuz i need to be seen i need to be heard i need somebody to know who i am but think about all the people whose lives could still be here today or who's not locked up in in the misunderstandings in the east coast and the west coast fight because if we had since then because we all know how to get money everybody here we all got to get money right we came up knowing how to get money just anybody ever taught okay but if we had the smarts there but he said something that was ingenious the movies was there the music was here but if we had that person that could put them things together then these people couldn't do what they do instead they kept slavery there and here's the thing how i sum this up every year i look to see who is going to be the house [ __ ] this year okay so they grab that guy whoever's just coming out of jail and he got that name signed all them artists so now they get the house [ __ ] to put the film [ __ ] together to shut them down close them down so that they can work and do all the [ __ ] that they want to do and we come in here and go against each other with the [ __ ] that's how this [ __ ] goes that's why we can't get that out of our heads let me tell you to keep it wow all right yeah let me tell you guys bro then i wouldn't finish but tree going to take over this because what we always roll over is what trick was saying we are owned by europeans in fact hip-hop is owned by europeans who are now giving it to their kids they're hiring their kids they're becoming the presidents and managing others and they know more than we know and that's our life and it goes to him it goes to him he goes to him because like he said how you telling me how you gonna do hip-hop in my city and you but listen what he said though that's what this documentary was about right so i'm like look let's go get the people to tell the story she got the story to tell about this but we we ain't we ain't spent 30 minutes on him we spent 30 minutes on him because we're just passing over the fact that it's a business and we're not on the business side what did he say you coming here with your radio mule you're bringing your machine to my city and you ain't it ain't none of us eating nothing i mean that's the whole damn thing and i didn't realize that booty shaking song you made i didn't know that was you holy [ __ ] at first yeah yeah okay you seen these [ __ ] bouncing all over i gotta make one of those yeah that's what they're doing make some noise i didn't that's like what i did with reggae though i went to puerto rico i see when i said i gotta fake one of those [Music] and when i get i gotta have a plan when i get out so i can't come back in here right you know so and you ate gold too i know it did not make you think watching this documentary just hearing a piece that there's a sentence of each person did it not make did it not take you back to where you started out it made me did it yeah it made me feel so proud because you know what it is they i like the word gangster because gaza doesn't mean gangster means that you take care of your family like you know what i'm saying like i grew up i actually named my whole company because i wanted to be that but what i realized is i didn't want to i i that wasn't the way it is that's not the way that's the way i should have been going like you know what i'm saying like i'm more happy being happy that's real like that's real like i'm more happy being happy before i was trying to be other people versions are happy like all right cool you know what i'm saying so i mean it's just great so how was it right let me just miss flipping bounce it eminem calls you you get destroyed because he calls you he's let's go no instead you get you right right your running book you got the distracted thought it was beef but he calls you for to get on the racket yeah yeah let's break that down yeah i mean [ __ ] when he called like a hey cuz where you at okay i'm in the hood he's like hey bro i need to see you at the studio as soon as possible like you thought you needed to back him up was his man that's how i met marshall through proof why uh but uh so when i pulled up to the studio he jumped in put the cd in and it was a song welcome to detroit and i thought he was just giving me a shout out the song and i'm like look at this listen i'm like damn right he going in damn trick trick the police he called he got a song about me he said he oh respect yeah and i was already working with this what with the homie simon and wonder boy wow you know so we had the playing we was already in motion recording i pulled up to the studio with that like hey man no right now you got to hit this [ __ ] played the record for him and he just lost it like that i was like they go to bag right there we could still do it our way but they go to bag right there but that record was like that's that was a blessing because it took me to another side of the earth where i've never been where they never knew you know who trick trick was and and i used that to my benefits you know product merchandise and marketing blah blah blah so you know i'm extremely appreciative of that what he did that [ __ ] was a gift and a curse almost i i just i heard that i'm not sure about the curse yeah it was a curse because it was like a lot of fun [ __ ] was industry [ __ ] was happening in that endoscope universal umbrella and they were doing a lot of [ __ ] that was like what lately you put it out through motown universal well wonderful for real yeah detroit right yeah and the guy was you know sylvia rohn and eric nicks but silvia road fell out with my partner who was windy day and wendy davis you know that's the best she gonna go go up against the machine the right way you know man if wendy say it's [ __ ] up it's [ __ ] up and the silvia and them still trying to push the button so they still you know they had their [ __ ] back and forth and they put me uh on the same release date as mary j blige and jamie foxx when he was a r b singer and i thought y'all just set this [ __ ] up so let me grab this bag and get the [ __ ] on that's all you know but what you had was like now you couldn't get back in the universal system you couldn't go back around the other way you know what i'm saying you know you got to do this but i i could say [ __ ] i still have my everything was mine was did you feel a special connection to nikki because she was from queens and she was a girl because she according to the documentary when i watched it she actually moved to atlanta because she wanted to be you needed her to move to atlanta yeah i told her that she had to come to atlanta i said i'm not coming to new york if you need me to help you you got to come here because i'm not coming to new york i don't live in new york anymore this is where i'm at i can do whatever you need here but i can't do this in new york right wow so it's not even one nicky's a girl right that that's the first thing and i fell in love with her like i really did like listening to her and everything she told me and everything she went through i like she reached out to you actually keeping it real fendi dirty money friendly fendi um booked gucci for a showdown in in um carolina and um he said deb and everybody knew i wanted a girl okay i'm just so pro-female period anyway i've wanted a girl but i just didn't want any girl you had gucci juice already right yeah okay and um finish it go down come here come here he said i got the girl for you i was like get your ass out just get my damn buddy let me get out of here and he said no no he said damn just listen to this on the way going and on the way going back to atlanta you know i put her tape in and when i listened to her tape i was like i called them i said what's she look like right and he said i'm gonna send you something but instead when we got to no we had to go to be more and when we was over in b more wayne never showed up so they was begging me could all the artists stay on stage until wayne got there nikki came across the neighbors like yo that's nikki right there that's the girl that's nikki and i was looking and um gucci was trying to talk to her and she was going on and he's like yo that's nicki you know trying to get me to see it cause he's really trying to get ass you know but at that time i didn't really give a [ __ ] because we was on stage for too long and [ __ ] we're not getting paid for this [ __ ] you know and i did get to see her but when she talked to me it's the underdog thing that gets me when the person come to me and they in trouble those are the ones i like helping i don't want you if you're big already i don't need you i'm a builder i like building and i was like [ __ ] with which they said can't happen it's gonna happen my watch is happening and i'm not gonna touch you if i can't do [ __ ] for you you know what i said you just gotta listen but nikki was a different kind of female also even though she was gone she's very timid she got a lot of me in her body now i see that [ __ ] she got a lot of me she got some heart now but she went through she went through a lot she went through a lot of [ __ ] like she really did go through a lot i'm super proud of her but she listens it don't matter what people say or the rumors that people say i'm never going into this [ __ ] because i don't really give a damn about that stuff you know what i'm saying but she listened she got up she was a difficult female it wasn't about little [ __ ] it wasn't about that because a chicken destroyed a whole career for a [ __ ] but he ain't gonna destroy his for you and i always tell him that she was up early in the morning it wasn't about smoking hanging out being in love going thought she wanted this this is what she wanted she wanted this bag and she paid attention and that was the good thing i told y'all this show was about giving flowers man yeah come on give me come on you want to take a [Applause] no she had to be trained she had to go through a lot of stuff but what's your favorite moment you you think what what what what what these new artists which which one was it discovering nikki seeing her get to that moment or was it is it the car she had her car she got there she got the car to the office the car broke down right there who licking yeah actually when we no longer work with nikki they called the tow truck i never wanted a car to go anywhere because that was the car she started and like was really big to me but they were so ready to get that car up out of here because of how everything you know was but her bmw fell down right there and the craziest [ __ ] is i know i really shouldn't say this but you know bless my heart i never knew that how safari was going together yeah i thought me neither i thought was a gay guy that she came out with yeah yeah and he was a helper she never she was the stylist when i was booking her out she's like dab i need two rooms but the two rooms wasn't for him because she would get dressed in the other room but safari was i didn't know that they went together oh i never knew until he took my car from her and she called me to block him up and then he called me and that's when he broke down everything he broke down everything that they was together for the year i didn't know she never that was one thing about her she never gave any inkling that anything was going on with them like the way she was i just thought he was guffing you know i thought he was just a gay guy that was helping her and he was a high guy or something i just never knew anything but he put his career back for her you know and he told me that that they put everything into her the letter go and then bowleg and luke called me and then that's what he told me about all of them that they was a group like nikki bolek and lou really was the first person to have her i didn't know that and it was his son um it was the son safari how there was a group oh wow like that was the first thing she never told me about the group she told me about like i was like but you want to know something that's funny if you listen to all their stories they omit like george has definitely omitted out everything but that's what brought her in harvard should always be paid there to georgia because that's how she broke through so when i listen yeah when i listen how about friends too is friends get different nah i got i try to be funny but chris didn't really make it that well in georgia um the first time i remember when i watched this stuff with them i don't know how far i need to be going with this [ __ ] because the first time and and they all about gucci gucci didn't do french walker did gucci didn't like french because the first time he went in the studio the door saw with him he paid gucci and five thousand dollars to get on the feature and he was just sitting in the studio because she was going off the back door he was gone he left oh he left and and he was like yeah yeah and then he called me and french was like yo everybody like yo gucci left and i said what are you talking about and i called them and i said goats where the hell you at white chicken cocktail boy money yeah he's like man [ __ ] that [ __ ] ass [ __ ] yeah he wasn't doing nothing yeah and i said you can't do no [ __ ] like that yeah french car he's like yo auntie that's all the money i had i have no more money he said yo he just took my money just went in there i believe who's saying that to you and i'm like [ __ ] gucci what you doing this [ __ ] gucci took away money so he god damn it i took his sister green when you first fighted it turned green i met him at the gas station because he was like oh we got to go back and um enough to get him to change all of them didn't you ever do the verse i just got that freaks to five thousand dollars and i told waka i said waka do something right here i got to do so while i took him out french you know friends was drinking a lot at that time too so drinking that first kind of messed up with the grow street [ __ ] and some stuff went down there so he didn't really pan out as much like is the line chris didn't really pay out as much in atlanta he didn't he didn't really do as well people would have taken them in i guess some of that [ __ ] was coming from says that prince broke do we was the first ones to get the obama look alike so i changed the record and added walker to the record and then we shot we did the video we did everything and then i made the call got it on the same day i got on mtv they was like what the [ __ ] i should get a [ __ ] on mtv right and god knowing that that's what broke them chop and chop it down nobody was letting friendship uh they was not letting french in it wasn't about atlanta doing it it was that video that was shot that chopper chopper down we did chop we changed chop the chopper down the whole thing i changed the whole record and that's what did it make some noise for that got that yeah georgia they never add a lot of that stuff and what went on you know what happened there but it did a lot for them and new york hurt me and i'll say that like coming from new york that [ __ ] hurt me i bust my ass to go to new york to find somebody from new york to find people from new york to blow them back up and then you give me your astacus and then new york flipped the whole thing flipped where these people were hated nikki couldn't even walk the streets of new york without girls want to slice up and do whatever you know what i said then y'all flip on me these are people that even the fans was going at them like crazy and then y'all turned around and somebody put a room up yeah i go over here from my mouth and i can say it again i can say my name let me just say that and that's how that [ __ ] started okay so i'm just telling you that that's how it started and those rumors started going out and people joined forces in the rumor because they don't know any better but now even what y'all just sat here and said about the whole corrupt thing somebody's going to see this and be like holy [ __ ] it didn't go down like that do you understand what i'm saying or you even just checked yourself yeah shout out give him a blood thing you're just on camera literally and don't edit this [ __ ] out okay so you're ready come on come on let's do it come on yes there you go but you just checked yourself because when you started thinking about the thing that's so good about this nori when you look at this you could actually see yourself and during what times was this like this and what times was that like this and like holy [ __ ] i didn't know this person really did that and that one didn't really do it really because there's so many people that became each one of us there's so many people that spread rumors about each one of us that some [ __ ] is true something's just true but the little punk-ass [ __ ] is warm like what you know that's the part that'll eat you up like those are the sides of me that i have to learn to check myself and not let you get under my skin because those are the times that i was reacting but those reactions was hurting me in the long run because i was really showing my hand of who i am i just didn't do nothing to you at that time but i'm grateful to georgia because it changed a lot of me this other time i don't even want you breathing in the air that i breathe you don't deserve to breathe the same yeah i did another hitbox okay it was special it was special so i had to get the hell up on today you know like that's just it's just something it just went left field it's like for us what i didn't like with this particular show is that it showed for me for black women that we was weak that all we wanted to do was do each other and our men was the [ __ ] you understand what i'm saying like i just didn't like how it downgraded us it got to be no good no more like now there's no good if people that didn't have anything you're now using them but that's reality tv and do the same thing i don't do [ __ ] [ __ ] like that at all i'm gonna come out and what you say about me is real there's no in-between there's no fake-ass [ __ ] i don't even know how to say a line that you give me that's why i can't do movies because you can't give me a line it's fake and it's hard for me to feel into stuff like that it's hard it's difficult for me to do that kind of stuff you know what i'm saying but this right here and i'm grateful even for all of them because there's a fear there and it's a fear not a physical fear but a fear of respect because there's not very many people especially some men i don't have a lot of respect for you because i know [ __ ] [ __ ] you do for real for real you know and i know that you ain't about that life for real for real you know what i'm saying i know that and i know a lot of y'all if i really tell the stories i understand this sometime and pull something up that's how i got hit four times because he used me for the shield all right because i'm looking for ain't no gun under the goddamn chair he had this [ __ ] sitting on the side of the hallway he was scared but if he moved he would have got hit but i caught the bullets you know what i'm saying i caught every one of them and that's the stuff that is people in this game i could change some [ __ ] about you know what i'm saying that i was in the position with them and you cried don't let them give me don't let him give me but then you stand out there and you gangsta you billy badass but i'm a woman and you put me out there to fight and i had no problem with it like i had no problem with getting there or getting on the phone with my brother his twin you need to be on here because i don't know how i'm going to come out of this one but i got a bunch of [ __ ] laying on the bus screaming and i know i got to get us a body here but my security that i had was fort knox that's the one you know i had a good team trick don't play them [ __ ] [Music] [Music] to you real quick it's a famous incident there's a couple famous incidents there's most games in particular they said they locked the gates oh god they said that ross is trying to perform but the gates were locked oh [ __ ] could not i didn't have control of the gate i think the security locked the gate what exactly i touched the gate what exactly happened i just stood in front of the gate [Laughter] and told the driver of the vehicle turn around and take him back to his hotel then when they told the police sir you gotta get him out the way the police came and said you gotta move and i said no i don't i got 100 men out here 60 of them armed half of them licensed if you don't tell that vehicle to turn around and go before it get through me i'm gonna put cnn on that corner for six days now you're gonna get asked later as a sergeant what happened and i'm gonna tell my side of the story too and it's going to be that i gave you an option sergeant to make this all go away and the sergeant turned around and said y'all get this vehicle the [ __ ] out of here and we went [Music] we had a club lock with gucci on the bus that was what happened wait wait who came to detroit we had a club it was on the uh it was only my brother my older brother yo my brother my twin brother was there that night yeah no joke no it was dead performing stop the whole [ __ ] yo everything on stage was worth tricking them so you're going to lose they're going to lose so my brother peeped it like but he gained contact with trick brother right you know what i'm saying they talked it out and gucci got it got out of there all this [ __ ] on and all that that's what that's the part [Music] i remember because but that's another time because this ain't the only chocolate you know he put through a couple of things with charlie and you know that [ __ ] but trick it was just another story about the stage he he gave me the alley upstairs oh i gotta go actually had a problem is i mean it's documenting the history what did you say again sorry no because him and trick actually had a problem yeah it some of his associates they tried they tried to get down on the [ __ ] when i was out here uh-huh on some promo [ __ ] for my album at the time was called revelations this was like 1998 uh-huh and we were just working the album and uh passing out flyers and [ __ ] and it was at his after party but it was just what was popping the word was they said your name is trick or you guys supposed to change your name that dude was having with my homies that dude and then was having with my homies about and he had my flyer in his hand and he was like who the [ __ ] is this [ __ ] and i'm like that's me cuz uh-huh what's happening and he's like no [ __ ] you got to change your name you trying to come up off the homie name basically and i'm like what i'm like my [ __ ] my name trick trick i hear of trick daddy until after [ __ ] i've been trick trick for a thousand [ __ ] years all right this is a stupid conversation i'm having with this man you know and so i get back to the to the uh cars where my big brother peanut is at my other big brother peanut from bnb is that and he in the car with that yeah i mean he won't pass me that [ __ ] because now these [ __ ] will start showing me they they blinkers and [ __ ] i'm like damn cuz he just showed his head and my man gonna follow the other card make sure y'all don't go nowhere what the [ __ ] kind of [ __ ] is that homie now he didn't call trick daddy on the phone and we had a conversation me and trick daddy had a conversation on my man phone right he i told gabe the phone back said he said give me his number he gave me the man number but but then you know the way that panned out with them trying to you know get us to go to the after party and the signals that they were throwing i was like dude that was some [ __ ] and everybody agreed everybody agreed that was some [ __ ] they was gonna try to get down something happened where they couldn't move and we kind of just went on our way like just pull off and you know and me being put in a situation where i felt that uncomfortable i'm not going to rest till i get who responsible for making me feel that uncle and the moment is you paid for them to come out there i helped it was already happening and i then it was finna get cancelled so i helped get some more if y'all wasn't good for that y'all was good for booking a [ __ ] i booked the [ __ ] oh yeah i booked you everyone getting taken off bookers i promise to god if i want you your ass is i got a thousand [ __ ] on the day you arrive i'm telling not to get you i got lego hands i got light hands right now y'all it's coming out you know what i'm coming out come back and put them back in even man cause my big homies wasn't nothing to [ __ ] with and i was there i'm [ __ ] lucian i started out the cockroach tending on the bottom shelf so i had to put mines in i ain't just starting at the [ __ ] top as you die i started at the bottom hello everybody sorry all right guys a lot of people get that [ __ ] up and thank you just because they feel something entitlements about themselves that they have to belittle my [ __ ] power and try to go against the rules i set ahead for the benefit of my people those that i lead those that i protect those that i provide folk you know even if it's just you know somebody even if somebody i don't know but at this time we have a situation between me something that's got to do with me altercation that started between my homies and his homies and [ __ ] it's like they coming and when i got word that they was coming and then it was finna get cancelled i was like well why are you going to castle they like we need some more money right here get that whole goddamn train here because the people i'm looking for is with him and [ __ ] they came you're never gonna win in my house like i won't win in another [ __ ] house i wouldn't expect to you understand me i respect that but that's the whole thing respect is number one and start with respect and respect i respect my [ __ ] self so every [ __ ] body i come in contact with don't respect me because i respect myself and guess what what i expect of myself i expect of you because i'ma give you the same [ __ ] respect i give myself i don't want no problem with no [ __ ] man let me tell you something ain't no real [ __ ] never got into it with no real [ __ ] um cost so much oh this is something that we learned from new york we didn't understand bloods and crips right we totally was was with gucci ropes and all this other thing we didn't know what a jerry curl was whatever but then it came a point where it was so many crips that it was [ __ ] on [ __ ] violence more than we hurried crypt on blood violence and i believe that's the second greatest generation crips that have started that because raymond washington and then from my understanding uh they was like almost positive halfway the idea was supposed to be a positive idea yeah the idea that we created in 1979 but he died the same year the crips split up whoa yeah he died in 79 and the sea was broken in 79. so it was march 8th you said the seed was broken so the sea was created this [ __ ] the crips came in 1969 wow ten years later the eight trays in the world of 60 started beefing eight trades and we're going to work they gained in the rolling 60s that was us and h.a gangsters that's why i missed it marzu cody earlier you didn't even look at me well yeah i mean he's straight that's not me i don't really know anybody buddy i don't have no unfinished beats you know what i mean like when it was on it was over with me if you see [ __ ] who moving they got a problem that's because they didn't do what they supposed to do but they got some you know i mean like with me it was like hey when i did it i was good at what i did and how how but what i'm saying is so crippy came in 69 that's when he created crips right and then it kind of just took off and then in 79 when we was young it it's getting it's getting more to the west coast to me to the west side of l.a right and then now you start getting numbers because there was crips first and there wasn't numbers then actually started getting more gains they'd go farther than four now dude start claiming like a trade rolling 60 107 nano crips and it just started moving like that so we started beautiful day trade games at 79. that caused all the crips to really start fighting each other and then you had to either split a neighborhood car or you was a gangster so it was like so la split and that's the story hasn't ever been told so either if you win neighborhood that means that we didn't do we are all even numbers i mean we don't do nothing in trades we'll do one so if you seven one we feel like he was a gangster if he was eighth rate he was a gangster if you would sending them numbers so if you came he was like if you say these are 60 30 queens you're gonna be like oh no you're the enemy you're gonna say so went by that bottom number uh and so i yeah so broken down so it's like the two rolling twenties the like snoopers are rolling 20. we wrote the 60s rolling forward as well and then all the 100s and so but if you took on another set you might not even realize that you might not even realize that so as we started what was gangbanging so look in my mind it's four levels of gang banger i mean i'm crippling so it's the gang banger the [ __ ] who's banging on you every day what sets you from look where you from the gang ready to gun you down young [ __ ] that lasts about five years then it's the the gang the gang you know like he's gaming but he ain't really in it he's from the hood but he ain't banging on more but he's still representing the hood he owned the block he's getting his money on the block and he know one or two dudes from other sets from jail then the next level is the [ __ ] who just he he's not in the hood like that no more got a family doing what he doing but he gonna pull up and he's still rocking but he ain't he got a bunch of [ __ ] he owned another life then that's me that's the name who's totally 100 percent out of [ __ ] i got a bunch of things but i can go influence the hood i can go you know what i'm saying and do the things and say look at us that's me smack big d up on all those [ __ ] and still like this is our babies like [ __ ] we gonna tell you how the block gonna go because we ain't never [ __ ] on the block we ain't got no spoils on the block you know what i mean like [ __ ] steal our block you can't be those [ __ ] just came on the block two years and tell us what the [ __ ] to do no dude because i still got these hammers now neighborhood is the new york hat right yeah that's next that's the reason why we always and that's the reason why we need to sing don't forget and we had that new york hacking from new york for real like dudes come from other states and they want to represent a city right like if you come from florida you come from here but you know if you that's that's three different hats that's the 40s that's deflencius the the hispanic game and then i think where else where they had um which had so which exactly [Music] [ __ ] don't know so you pull up in our city if you got a certain head on the wrong area yeah in fact while i was on you're gonna get you your cap split if you pull up with that s hat it's three games where that s at the dudes are cute pocketing with a s hat s-hat uh supposedly south side the rolling 60s school yards but we made it really popular so it was really really popular with us because it's the air 760s and the south side and then the sox hat and all them every hat needs something they're like yeah right so you can have a [ __ ] if you have a crew of fighting hats you could be in the club somewhere and [ __ ] walking right with him but i mean what the [ __ ] that mean what the heck what you saying like that hat right there that casey had that's the kitchen crips [Music] because these kids don't know they do all of this stuff and they don't know and when they hit these cities when they have they don't understand why because you don't know you want farming land right this is not where you live i always tell artists that don't think cause you poppington and this [ __ ] going on that you popping in this city too you ever thought to be gangs in new york crips and bloods in new york you ever thought that oh [ __ ] i heard that did you ever think that they would come there like did you ever think that yeah yeah they migrated out there yeah in the series when we had cube i thought that's my favorite song we migrated there in the early 90s but these kids don't understand they don't understand but they they still don't understand that's why this stuff is so important and people can't turn their back on a lot of stuff and these kids are lost and that's why so much [ __ ] is going on because they don't know the culture for real what they just said hip-hop but what is hip-hop yeah you know what i'm saying what is it hip-hop is just not this music yeah it's the culture you know it's crazy when i was on the road and and jay said to me when i said james that's the generation yeah he said the crips he said blood say crips yeah you said it in the film face up outside yo 60s if new york and i said jay what would that mean like jay was telling me yeah and the dude what it was matter of fact we wanted to picture that and all that and and the ride was going on right when you they go crazy right you know what i'm saying right with the jerry carol yeah it was jericho but i know it's you but he's going crazy and we walk to the hallways i'm i'm telling with me hurricane and jay it's me hurricane and jay we walking through the hallways of the arena we didn't care about none of that [ __ ] wow the dude rolled up on us and [ __ ] he had a tattoo on his arm and watched he said roller sixteen okay he said rolling 60. i [ __ ] with me ain't that [ __ ] i represent new york and i was thinking i'm looking at jay let me remind you i'm from new york but yeah notice he's he's just coming to l.a that's right after a while i started feeling good every time they could be like like [ __ ] see me like you from new york i'm like yeah because they can tell i'm not a gang banger right they could tell me the street [ __ ] like when i was going out there but like i've always seen 60 [ __ ] they were like from new york right when he said that my mind was quitting already right we didn't like ll yeah wow i didn't know that no i didn't know that tell me you look red huh no that [ __ ] was so much red oh y'all specifically didn't like no that [ __ ] was so much red it was not him we had no reason to dislike him all right he just wore so much red you know who we love though like especially us cool mode let's see what blockers on the wild west the west coast right you really brought that gun plate all right that's why i said the wrong way it was different if i said the l i mean it was a j when i got to j i'm like yo he's like yo it's crips all right serious it's serious and how you know he's a serious i'm pranking so this is what i'm trying to say this is a question of both of y'all so like um basically more i started to come out to l.a the more i started to notice that everybody's in a gang right everybody everybody's like one of the most one of the most secretive that no one knew anything about was the 60s like i don't want to watch all of them went to all of these but the 60s was this like secretive like it was like you only know what 60s do if you end the six like the special four seasons like yeah and then nipsey hustle comes up right we had corrupt we knew corrupt was shot in the block shouting out big draws i ain't no big draws and big u is the same [ __ ] we didn't i don't know but the nipsey comes out and sometimes i say with my murder unit guys sometimes you know those are my brothers but i wonder sometimes me being famous and them being my brothers did i hurt or add on i never helped [ __ ] okay because because you got me at that time the only person was hiding that lay at that time even was a game yeah and then la is a blue city in fact it's not a red city it's a blue city all right it's always been more crips in that lake than than anywhere else l.a county watch all the way through right but the thing with nick was nip what made y'all what you seen when nipples you didn't realize it is nip is the only one that came out that didn't claim a part of the city snoop was long beach dragon was compton jrock was watts they was all claiming like different parts of l.a we claim i'm saying the hood only it wasn't nothing else and i was crucial i'm crunching right like when you see the chris show that's really me nipsey is slauson boys like nifty recollated with slauson he got slauson on his back everything about nipsey was all slauson i went to grinshaw next he never went to grinshot so when we came up i had to find something as a manager to make your artist connect so we needed something that would make him connect to the hood because all this music was all about the hood if he was all of his early music was really about banging it was uh um bullets ain't got no name shoot the block up uh uh run shoot him is all that and then in the beginning of this [ __ ] i had to go and look at all his music look at all the videos and make sure we wasn't dissing nobody if you remember all these early videos his first videos i directed them i directed them and i got all my i mean all those credits because i was my job me as somebody trying to push somebody they would connect to the city that everybody will respect and i respected all these dudes bloods crips mexicans and everybody else because i just did 13 years of these dudes so i wasn't going to do 13 years with [ __ ] and then come home and change up right you know what i'm saying like i just walk with you [ __ ] they said you united the yard yeah yeah that's what i did and i'm saying no real talk right real talk i did [ __ ] that motherfu i did [ __ ] in prison had never been done before i had a big ass june 2 day where we had all the blacks from every set big ass eating i taught classes in that [ __ ] man i taught classes really i taught psychology classes i taught class number really [ __ ] me up because i started really studying dudes and really seeing like a lot of [ __ ] this gang bangers in jail been molesting been been been i don't know been molested and hurt been feel like [ __ ] like is gang making this defense mechanism in a lot of sorts yeah on [ __ ] that happened to [ __ ] when they was younger and they're like ain't what happened no more now i'm a man i got a gun for the fight against this so i used to teach classes on the yard you know what i mean so when i came home not for the i just did 13 years with these [ __ ] i'm not going to come home and add to gang banging right so when i went to go get my artists after being with sugar them studying all them and and and giving me a little bag it's time to go to me so i found i found it and i'm like damn so they didn't want to [ __ ] with it and they didn't want to [ __ ] with big you yeah because big use the thug he was with suge and all this [ __ ] my name is getting their builders before i do wow so then i went and got steve lobel i said i got a white jewish boy he was dating my wife's my wife's niece steve was and that's how i know steve mobile and i bring steve on that's my face card and then i shoot steve in there and we go to all the different labels man we went to jermaine gonna get mad jim man we did come to you but you really wasn't the one turned us down yeah what did you ever see on the documentary too yeah time my switch give me time gave us um uh a month booked us out a month to record should gave us gave me some recording time for nick you know what i mean and all these dudes was helping me give you money yeah you gotta remember i just i just left i was just sure was still home and she was like he was helping me you know that's my god he was like you wanna you wanna you wanna sign him like yeah sure gave me record time for nip gave me beats games yeah and so so then me and molly mall jamal jamal rasheed started a company uh called blue magic music group we signed pooh bear we signed 1500 we did uh we did uh um lupus fiasco album justin bieber [ __ ] right yeah yeah you gotta remember see this is stuff that people don't know i was doing yeah at the time first deal ever wow you know what i mean the first deal he ever had that came from me why i did game shooting wow you know what i'm saying my management that i was doing management and when we came with him it was a major fight steve got us through the door had to go get a white dwarf as you all right to get us through the day i heard you say in the documentary did they didn't come get you when the winnebago yeah so we was on tour and my partner who winnebago was who let us get it was on the run right 12 years 12 years his girl name his girl his wife name was stacy my wife's name was stacy so when i registered and registered the mobile home in my wife name they thought it was him his wife right fast hit just everywhere we go we think it's just normal hip-hop [ __ ] but we hit portland they hit us we going going up to oregon that we get all the paperwork they took the [ __ ] uh uh radiator cap off took them over the part stuck us in uh i can't remember where we were for three days they took the [ __ ] scan it from the router to the two to find what they wanted on it put it back together gave it to us i flew back home when i fly home we get hit i get hit at home they hit 21 people they think they got him anyway make a long story short he had to turn himself in and take the case off all of us he get life right for the drugs right when that [ __ ] happened my team is acting weird so i'm looking at steve i'm looking at may get a pack work from sony so they can see that we you know releasing all this [ __ ] they acting weird so you know me i'm still kind of like you know hey i'm hot you know kind heavy but you know i'm like i can't [ __ ] with y'all all right so you never seen me on the tour no more and that's what the first problem no no problem never happened we didn't have a problem okay was nobody making no money right it was no money we never had a problem i just left right then when i decided my son come home from college he want to do music right so i'm like okay let me get the equipment we're gonna put it somewhere where we can all get to it that's when they got upset and he made the song i don't know monday never came up it did come out did that come up it didn't come out i don't know it wasn't never pushed as a song but it came out and i mean i don't wrap my script and this is my neighborhood my [ __ ] you know what i'm saying this is my land this is my piece of rock i fought for this [ __ ] ain't gave this up i'm still here every single day okay you know i'm saying like but but it goes what was talking about the documentary like her like him like you got a bunch of young [ __ ] who only heard a big you and and then they only heard of that rumor too that that you're nip yeah the problem never had a problem and that problem on the documentary they actually the conspiracy theorists said yeah big you had something to do with that or whatever that's why the first question i asked you was about the other [ __ ] somebody knocked that out early but now i was circling back so continue yeah and then and so he makes it this song we get it to the altercation we go to jail when his brother get out that two days later we meet at the uh at the african restaurant because you know the african because they don't keep saying that it was an actual fight there was no no i mean well you know come on man come on you know all right yeah yeah take five or six of my little nephew to deal with me right you know you know in the other doc they say that i'm pretty good i'm 54 and i can still you know demonstrate but it's but anyway i love my kids it's just the fact you know but we it's over that night it's over two nights night it don't go nothing can't nobody really see me in my city in my town right because i'm gonna go myself if it come to that right i don't need no [ __ ] to do nothing for me all right so we ain't got no beef right period we never stopped talking we didn't go two days with nothing we didn't have nothing nothing you don't see what i'm saying right all the way up until he signed a deal with atlantic records let's go celebrate where the [ __ ] is the beef fan right he fly me to new york i'm in the [ __ ] video i'm in his video uh uh what is it um ain't no rap [ __ ] the first song off the victory lap i am the [ __ ] who promote victory lap on my instagram twitter facebook all these weirdos who told me who became nifty fans they weren't promoting this [ __ ] i'm the one promoting that i wouldn't did five days in the studio recording for the mixtape that was gonna come out after that let's go you don't hear me though so where are these rumors coming from it's just [ __ ] using his name and his death to make some money wow and then the rest of the ignorant people falling off of that you know what i mean how you gonna have that and you got a man in jail but still in dentist oh it was a conspiracy what a [ __ ] conspiracy they clearly had a conversation they clearly was beefing they clearly grew up together and it's a [ __ ] i've never seen before i never met him really no i never met city you got to remember my home we we at any given time we may have 15 homies 1500 homies throughout this just on the streets maybe five or six thousand but if you got 15 i don't know all these young [ __ ] you got i'm 54. i don't know what with [ __ ] that's 25 26 27. that ain't my squad you know what i mean [ __ ] i ain't no i don't know these guys like i don't know all the youngsters in new york i don't know all [ __ ] in atlanta but i still get they [ __ ] though right you know what i'm saying i have never met the kid uh never made it but you know what you put this [ __ ] at big you table why don't you go put it at the table the [ __ ] who know him fast put it at the [ __ ] table with the people who ran with him and put it at the table the [ __ ] who got nipsy's bag now put it at the table we ran what was trying to shift the [ __ ] to somewhere else i'll put it in my table ain't got no bad facts he came to get me and he like and i asked him i said man listen you know what we're going to do man i don't want to be back in no more [ __ ] we said minnie you're going to be you huh you're going to do what you want to do we're going go take over and i'm all right cool my [ __ ] came and got me you see what i'm saying and who gave him his only award living how we beefing that's right party i was doing the war show nip off and out of you i'm the one gave him that but they gotta move you they got you have to understand like that's the whole thing about all of this they have to move you out the way even with all of them you're never gonna hear nothing about me these was all stars before i ever touched them if you let them tell it yeah they're not telling their story of being homeless and not half the [ __ ] and two type clothes with you with you i'm sorry to cut you off but with you you said the only artist that that bothered you was french like after things things separated well french ain't really the only person like honestly all of them in a way because i did a lot you understand what i'm saying i messed up a lot of relationships protecting them because i stood by them and let's be clear i don't regret it because if i'm with you i'm with you you you feel what i'm saying and sometimes it goes like that but i protect the children protecting you making sure that you was good then you turned on me and here's the thing here's my story okay i took puppies and turned them into vicious animals they turned around and left me and became leashed by someone else okay that's what i said but they're the same people that i'm beefing with all the people we're gonna connect the mics again the same people that i was that i went into the microsoft the same people that i'm getting a beef with are the people that you went up underneath right do you understand what i'm saying and then on for them i'm protecting you then on top of that you turned around and you went into agreement with stuff and i saw you in an agreement you might have didn't say anything but you said a lot when you didn't say nothing all right hold on go ahead hold on right there yeah when all that's how i feel all these lame ass [ __ ] she was saying this old [ __ ] [ __ ] by not saying nothing i feel like you was you was you you his family could have came out and said ain't no goddamn under this [ __ ] right so i don't and i got an interview today where's my relationship with the family [ __ ] that i don't have one i don't want one because they could have came out and said what happened and shed a lot of [ __ ] down but they let my family go through the [ __ ] dealing with all this [ __ ] my kids at school his coaches had to call him in like me and he seen your daddy asking you know what i'm saying like no it doesn't only trickle yeah like the thing that was so ill like even with my son like my son that committed suicide one of the things that he did not he couldn't stand his industry he wanted to destroy his family he watched it destroyed the friends they lost so many people but the biggest thing is that he's always something he couldn't be here not being able to see to protect me watching the things that people say and what they did he know what i did every one of them know what i did for them every one of them know what i went up against for them they all know that and that's the part that you ain't never have to say nothing because i don't use your name to move forward you don't need to drink no goddamn morning drink the [ __ ] out [ __ ] knocking up the mic [Music] there are other people that's affected by the things that you've done so when they sit there like even for my kids like a walker this [ __ ] didn't mean anything to him he grew up in this [ __ ] so when he loved you he'd love you because he's taught that loyalty is everything if i [ __ ] with you i'll [ __ ] with you we like checking you be like friends to the end and even every one of them you don't see no interviews with me putting their business out there in the street you understand what i'm saying well all the [ __ ] was going down they called me for a whole bunch of stuff i could write a whole freaking book best number one seller and have you when you can't walk the streets period i could put that out there all of them keeping it real oh i could too what was that are you [ __ ] with me what you fail to realize the entourages and the people that surround them [ __ ] i know your business it's people that's coming back to me just telling me stuff because they think i want to hear it yeah and it's like why are you telling me that yo we cool we can't be cool because you're cool with them you hanging out with them you right there with them you telling all their [ __ ] business so who's to say you ain't gonna tell mine i don't trust you see i pay attention to that how you run your mouth but you say you [ __ ] with me then [ __ ] with me but if you start spilling some ill [ __ ] about me [ __ ] i know you don't care nothing about me and i'm gonna pay attention to you i'm definitely paying attention to you and i'm not gonna give you that opportunity to come get me because i'm already watching you to get you already gonna stay solid though this is the problem we gotta stay silent and stay to the coast right while these other lanes don't get to stay safe not gonna change states not gonna change you know and that's the difference between what like i said when i when when i chose the people when we choose it i got it with the [ __ ] who could tell the story right and me and her was talking today on the way up here and we got such the same i mean so she did she said to me i had a problem with my own sons you know what i'm saying because these [ __ ] grow up in my neighborhood they believe [ __ ] too and you know kids only know what they hear and then they only gonna go by what their problem was and my daddy ain't the best [ __ ] in the world you know what i'm saying [ __ ] because who what who daddy is until you become a daddy right [ __ ] you all saying when you become a daddy and you gotta deal with the baby mama and the baby mom and the kids and all that drama then you're gonna be like my pastor is the best [ __ ] in the world but uh to get into that me and these things been beat you know what i'm saying that's a hurting thing that that's crazy when other people come in here and do something and 100 and put it right out here i tell anybody i didn't know every [ __ ] thing i know how to be a mother okay i'm a nurturer that's one thing i know and i know how to take care of my [ __ ] right i know how to do that right you understand what i'm saying i know how to wear multiple hats i know how to do [ __ ] other than throw my legs in the air i can cook i can clean i can bring that money up in here i can take care of you okay i cook my goddamn ass off my so i know how to do all these things because even though when i was a kid and doing all the things my grandmother made me deborah and getting here i had to go in that kitchen and i had to walk and she used to tell me it's gonna come a time that you're gonna have to do more than throw your legs up in the air you're gonna have to keep them home you're gonna have to learn how to keep this bed clean you're gonna have to know how to feel this stomach up the [ __ ] coming home i don't care who you get for two seconds i can't miss what i don't measure you understand what i'm saying and i'll just go digging i'll do none of that but i know you've got my momentum they left them with me and not at me because then we gonna have a problem they become something totally different you understand but i these are things that i know when you come into my household and you start doing all this [ __ ] [ __ ] that's what this game became i never told nobody i was that goddamn manager they made me a manager these people came to me because they needed help they was in trouble in the streets they couldn't get their [ __ ] through i made that happen period wow and you now everybody else want to run around and gain the credit for what i did if i'm uncovered okay y'all want to gain credit y'all claiming all of this [ __ ] that y'all did is more than those artists there's producers there's the sound of this game period track i am the [ __ ] track queen they can say whatever that self-proclaimed [ __ ] you gonna give me mine see i already took mines i don't need the validation from you why why they running around here needing to talk and be all on grant street my actions speak hey look let me tell you period when when i was i was able to do this right so i got to do research on everybody okay we got the table we putting the doc together and to a t i don't know where to put her is it new york atlanta every night t-i-t-i i don't know how she know t i feel about it but you got to do it right she's the one i respect that [ __ ] like even everything that was going on like real recognized real and the street codes are the street code and i'm governed by that i'm gonna keep it a hundred i am concrete hold on cause that's what it raised me right and i'm 100 with that and i'm telling [ __ ] like [ __ ] i respect what you doing but you just know what cyber morning right don't make me choose because you won't win and that's just real [ __ ] that's how i am if i'm with you i'm with you we're going to be chucking we friends to the end i'm a ride i'm a doctor my word is my bond i will die for my world let's plug the show real quick right so you're saying you had a chance f fx came to you and and they said no no we how this show got how this show got jimmy chris came to me he's a partner he's a pro he's a blood he's a pirate out of confidence okay he came to me to do the show he wanted to do it with suge whack and couple more people all right they had their little situations he ended up and because he had done something for me a while ago i did it and i said but it got to go this way you know what i mean and then we got to go get the right people and we started mulling over the story four years ago wow four years ago wow turned down by 40 different entities wow yes so we shot the pilot i got t.i and wheels to get on it nobody understood [Music] two years ago two and a half years ago something happened i can't remember what made them start seeing my name in the industry not when nipton died and and then that's how like boxing another european company came to the table we had a couple of means there was okay we understand who big you is but who else can you bring to the table so then i'm like only personal hand i know off hand is well i got uh trick trick okay we're gonna reach for it oh i got hayes and jack then like we gotta get a female and i'm like let's go get what's your name to do the show with you i'm home now all right mona let's go get mother scott did it like nah and then the whole world starts saying deborah had me all right let's name this beat me the supreme team go get the supreme team because that's me i need to have big i need to have me on the um on the east coast because it won't look right if it looked like then it looks like big you as me i need i need the supreme team so when i heard the supreme team i don't know dave brothers and sisters i have no clue but i'm just i want to meet bit me and they tell me you already know me throughout the industry and then i'm homeless like he probably don't recognize because he ain't been here a little dude and i'm just like damn i know him like but i want to remedy because i already got a story now so now i got her story and then i already know his story is my brother so her story just is like amazing but now i'm scared is she gonna tell it all right so now we like damn can i go i go sit down with um jay prince i sit down with a couple of different homies i sit down a lot of people yeah i thought jay prince is gonna bear i love your friends it's another season jpm another i love you when we come back we're going to do jake but jay was doing a documentary already like jason jason jack was already doing his documentary so i had to talk hayes jackie and i need for and then jake i got you bro but i'm only going to be able to give you so much and what he was only able to give us would not fit in the story on how we wanted to tell it because he was going to talk about how me and him first when i first went to prison was talking about doing laquan and then bringing so corruptnbc ended up telling this story and it's just like it was like say we started shooting it it took us two years to get to this point and she became like the her story to me affected my wife my daughter you know when you're telling the story and you letting your kids see it and my daughter's like i just want to be dead she said harley y'all stories are regular but hers is anybody but but it was my daughter who who i felt like damn she get to see somebody who ain't taking their clubs clothes off i ain't never watched um beautiful love hip-hop uh that's what it's called the show i've never watched loving him i watched every episode don't worry about it all right because i need to grow up hip hop but my daughter bro my daughter and my my home girl that was like dead at me dead dead dead dead dead and i was like man we got to get more out of here she wouldn't give a [ __ ] at first i still didn't you still that's the most gangster story i've ever heard like that's how much heroin is around you abusive baby like that was hard it means it was going like we was going they was going her problems going but but and then like i said we told the story and we wanted to tell the story of the history of hip-hop in the history of how it got to where we are and the unique thing is because the way we are right now we'll never have these stories all right because the camera ain't gonna let it the one on the street corner the phone ain't gonna let it the one that's telling everything and it's just not we're not these stories will become what the mafia stories were but not because because guess what what happened if y'all didn't tell your story someone else would tell you our story yeah i'm not doing this [ __ ] i'm like i'm not going back and forth because they want to say what they want to say to you and with rashidi dough like i really do even though i fire him every day but i'm very loving let me tell you obi was a thorn on my side she made my ass want cups of coffee wow like tons of brucello like that like [Music] this would be like every other show i don't take pictures and my time we need to take pictures with too many people and i can't implement people that i was with to this day there's still things that i can't talk about i won't talk about but i'll talk about me because i want you to now know me as much as i can talk about you i got a better story for you me and i said walker said mom you need to tell you need to stop sitting back you don't say nothing you don't never say nothing some people it's kind of not good some [ __ ] won't come out right you know what i'm saying like i might be like you trick some things just won't come out right and it is like this i'm telling y'all it don't matter to me what anybody say this was therapy for me i needed this i had so much anger inside of me i had so much blockage so much depression when you said even like about nikki i associated losing her with death like literally like death that [ __ ] hurt me so bad i told every one of them even if you don't want to be with me or if it comes that time that we're not together go i can't talk about this business i'm gonna make money if i roll up and down the street with a shopping cart with some guy that collect bottles of cans i'm gonna make some money you ain't never gonna stop me from getting that you understand what i'm saying but i can't replace you as an individual oh so when you love and you put that much into your series when you put that much into a person you put that much in i cried with them we went through a lot of [ __ ] i'd have nothing and they left me with nothing and that's just real [ __ ] they owed me i got nothing out of nothing but you wanna know something let's be real i'm not going to blame that on them because if you don't ask for nothing you ain't going to get nothing i can't expect you to give me something i never asked for i said i'd help you i just say you have to give me this i said i would help you so that's what i put that in that's why i ain't really mad about that french is another thing i told him i was gonna get him you were different my [ __ ] cause i knew you was gonna cross me i knew that but other people in a million years nobody ever told me gucci would cross me in a million years nobody ever told me you know everybody said he's who he is i was just with him the longest he stayed there the longest i would have never did that i knew that in juice i did a disservice to him and i'll say that i neglected oj i neglected oj because gucci stayed in so much [ __ ] gucci had me wrapped around his finger like i i stay i stayed doing stuff but also that was a part of me that i love that was the nurturing part of me taking care of my babies all of them are my babies then it's still my babies you understand what i'm saying is like no matter what and and it is what it is i don't care about all the rest of that stuff you could always make money but you can't replace people and that for me means something even when i was in the streets i had to do something to somebody i still still don't say oh god get give just clean the blood get the [ __ ] up off of them try to do something still trying to mention give him love you know you still try to that's just who i am you know and i love heart so when you cross me it's something different it's just that they've never been introduced to her and that's the blessing right so let's just make sure everybody say something say something let's start with youtube what's next besides fx i'm telling people who have asked this [ __ ] what is it okay they name it so many other names hip-hop [Music] all kind of stuff yeah it's uh hip-hop uncovered i'm uh i'm having the ball doing all the press with it uh i have a movie i wrote and directed yes produced called the last 24. uh so i'm my manager before we go out there cause i put you in the movie i put you in the movie i plugged you into that movie the detroit movie let's keep it real god york that's what happened this is what happened i'm doing the movie in detroit i got no these they told my i got goons with me these ghouls is actors and tell them what you got going on tell them uh my movie the last 24 i've been doing uh the five films with my siblings we had a film company and i decided to go in my studio and do another goddamn album going on telling people okay so you know i'm an ep i'm growing up in hip-hop really miami no growing up hip-hop atlanta all right cool ep lockers oh okay so thursday nights now growing up hip hop 10 p.m we tv tv tv they come behind this show okay then they'll come out um they'll get that money i can't stop getting money yeah so that's going on i have my radio station p100 oh it's coming back so i'm bringing b 100 back i have some other stuff hopefully coming through with my new team but they fired every day okay company not that but we have premise [Music] yeah about tag also i'm going to tell my old boy 50 all right i like this bottle it's a little weird as you can see he's because you're a premium guy that need to be cleared up because see what you just brought up there's still problems out there now and that's how we have to get this [ __ ] straight we have to stop the rumors and stop the stuff that's going on because these little minions is running around thinking that they can handle somebody's [ __ ] did you call them minions okay they think they can handle other people's [ __ ] and get in when that's the major leagues you're not even ready you see this [ __ ] right here it's bigger 50 though figure 50 that's what you want like like he from my heart i watch him grow up but so me as you know and we we can go into it supreme was in prison right he was home but i'm not gonna my man just bought his first gloves but i'm not gonna disrespect this man right he's back to 50. that's what's up you know what i'm saying i'm not gonna do that right at all you know what i'm saying but me personally i had a cover line called wolfenstein and she cloven [Music] uh check in yeah we got the checking in podcast [Music] i got a couple of different movie projects i'm trying to get producers so i'm looking for funding to get those projects off the ground um and then um we got a clothing line sorry no you need clothing right with me it's just a lot of movie projects man it's like see this question do we assume that's you yeah well it's me nip you know it's hood like okay nobody can never trade mark crenshaw okay you can try to but there's too many people that come from crenshaw right right like it's it's a whole nation of people so it's ridiculous for anybody to say they own it right like nobody can own that it's [ __ ] they went to crenshaw before me after you know and so i don't think nobody can trade mark crenshaw we can only just make the brand still look better so i'm doing i got a weed line coming out this is the crenshaw papers just this out right now we got blunts coming with all that but the most thing i'm more important about is develop an option so that's the work i do with the kids wow and with that i got over 1500 boys that we had put through college and they put in school my son is i got six is gonna graduate this year with my son group he's graduating from greenville nevada my youngest son wow and then right behind him there's going to be four more of my kids are going to be graduating from college so that's what we've got [Applause] the distribution company unique distribution it's for people to go on power music i'm not really trying to assign artists no more just really give artists a platform to put their music out so we already had that but like i say the distribution coming but look movie coming out you know the family activities y'all [Music] oh you
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Channel: REVOLT TV
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Published: Sat Feb 27 2021
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