Big U on Rollin 60's, Suge Knight, Nipsey Hussle, Tekashi 6ix9ine (Full Interview)

all right here we go we got oh gee big you in the building you appreciate you coming in man good show all the time huh okay so this is your first time on Vlad TV so I just come want to get into your whole story in you know your whole history because you were very interesting and respected history especially in Los Angeles right so what part of led actually grow up in South Central LA born and born on 81st and Hoover raised on which we now called the 60s you know halogen is Slauson you know for most of my life mm-hmm now you were born in the 60s yeah born in 66 okay so you grow up you know you were a kid in the 70s right describe LA in your area during that time um it was kind of like new cuz we had just we was moving to the west side LA so the west side LA was kind of just just developing you know I mean like for blacks being able to come to LA and we kind of looked like we was leaving it we weren't really on the east side being on over but we was it was like that black flight going going west so was new it was young when we moved from the Hoover's to the hood it was it was kind of like the first time gangs was coming West at the rate we was coming and I think Crippin came in 69 my uncle name was original G Crips so we moved to the hood it was it was it was different but then for us he was a family element because I had my mother had 10 brothers and sisters and we were we had like a big south connection my mother was a was a one sister of she was three girls and Tim boys Wow so and they all kind of like a real tight knit so and they all came from like this aggressive fighting nature so I can remember honkers fighting it fighting the LAPD in the front yard I can remember you know have a picnic event as part and then it was kind of like you know real crazy well for me it was crazy because my uncle never was like really like big there was selling weed real big weed dealers and seller we used the cocaine so during that time you talk about the early 70s yeah that's when Tookie Williams and Raymond Washington came together that was like what 71 I think see that's that's kind of like before my time and it's like a quagmire were hot that's toe with Tookie and Tookie and Rama Washington and I was like didn't be was like 10 years older than us mm-hm and it's a it's a it's a difference between what they was doing the way eventually morphed in what is today like there there is no Krypton and what a man came from where we ended up doing after 79 was what we called gangbanging and I was where it was everything had changed so did you know two key or two key in prison I'm able to key in the county jail he was all in 1750 together okay he came down to fight an appeal for a child custody I think and we was on actually next door and 1750 I had had some cases inside prison and I had to go get locked I got locked up so me and it was right behind each other so originally how did the rolling 60s actually formed with them and everybody always gonna said but it's it's different it's like different dudes how the man came about it but it was like the permission was supposedly given to babyface and babyface got permission to start a fractional Crips so somewhere around about I don't want to be quoted on this but somewhere around about 7:00 the bus about probably about 73 about 71-72 a struggling people forming on gangs and it's like you kind of had to get permission that starts your own crib fraction and that's where the homies went to try to do their own crib fraction and that birth to 60s and that came about 73 74 okay and at what point did you actually join I asked you never joined aha okay I'm saying you never I'm uh you know I'm one of them guys who who just here just around put like this it ain't on you sometime is in you y'all mean kind of like you walk a certain life and you live a certain life and you from a certain area I like to tell dudes like from nowhere I am there that's what I am you know I mean like this where is it's in your heart so you're in this area and the 80s come around yeah and with the 80s comes crack mm-hmm you go from you know a place where suddenly you've got this drug introduced and it has massive effects in the neighborhood on every level financially in terms of addicts the destruction to the family to the home prisons violence everything else like that do you clearly remember like right when crack hit that area yeah I remember with crack but it didn't hit like it did here that's like that in the 80s early cuz you know it was crazy for me because I always knew drugs I knew like like I said my family come from that I was one of the cats who who who was introduced to the selling and making money of drugs at an early age so when well let me take you back to 84 no one said 80 79 80 it was pretty much PCP and your dust and it was appealed University kinda like it is right now we didn't see cocaine coming till the first thing that was doing was ether basing with it it was always snorting it and doing whatever they did with his shooting it we've seen ether bass come first and that was kind of like 81 82 weeks to hear by like these old cats doing this other thing with the cocaine they not stabilized they're not on to knit or shooting it they doing something called intubation and it was getting their own off to mirror and trying to cook it and then that morphed in the crack cocaine and that was um kind of like 82 you know like 82 is started you started seeing people not leaving the house and focusing on just like messing with this with this rock yeah it was called ready rock in the country it was called it was it was a lot of different names and so when it when it actually hit was like 83 and I came back home 84 and we went from being able to just and it changed it because two things have the major the influx of guns and the different kind of guns then like the automatic automatic because we hadn't even seen automatics we weren't even having a lot of magazine and especially like what the most we was we was inflamed by the nine-millimeter from the movie that came from New York was um king of New York when our Laurence Fishburne had the nine millimeters and the king of New York was like oh yeah what you know me because we come from the clean-ish where the the pistols in the fo5 and the magnums so when crack came all the different movies came to that influenced the culture at the same time so it was kind of like a two-way street and we wouldn't wanna cocaine here it it made it so we had more money than we ever had we had availability and access to money right because you didn't really have millionaires in that area before then not well we count like are we always was known as like the so-called wealthy Crips or whatever because in our area we live in houses like the projects in certain parts of Compton and watching all that day in tenements and you know projects and our areas houses so in in our area which is called the 60s it's different it's like you may have somebody it's generational you'll have people who've been going to school on knew each other from age five years old because their mothers owned these houses and they have ownership instead of living in apartments and they may be living these apartments five years three years and they moving out and transitioning in and out these apartments ours was different you know me like we lived on the block you know or legit if you listen to Mon as long as you call this a struggle you're gonna hear us talk about where it was ten of us that lived on the same block and I'm always more than living on same block but we all lived up on it and so that's where we was called the Arlington gang but the orange gay gang is actually the first block of Arlington is uninjured in the second half third out four five which is the rollin 60s so we was the Arlington boys on the rollin 60s so as we got older and this is I was explaining to you so as we got older we would go places and do to say we all fun because no matter what you had to be from somewhere in LA we like we from Arlington and like what is that okay but we all knew martial arts you're talking about it was um seven first cousins we all studied martial arts that was one thing our family made us do no matter what you did you had to go do more shorts you had to go to karate school that's where you got discipline have you got else in school that's what you got you got everything happened at the karate school for us with our family so we're go places dudes ask me where I'm from I'm tell them all engine immediately what is that we're gonna show you what that what is that what I said was treating them we tell them where it's at or y'all from sixties all right here you got a problem the 60s and so we just take it down so you said you got out in 84 no I got out in 2004 no no but originally you said came back home from Chicago I got kicked out of state of California mm um 82 82 yeah they they kicked me out and told me I couldn't come back until way they kicked you out of the state of California completely yeah they used to do that it was either go to the army or you had to leave oh they don't have rules like that anymore or no it's just now starting to back to do it okay on the verge of um like I guess with dis conflicts they offering youngsters now this you know that's gonna sue her hard a chance to go to ye but with us back then it was a lot of stuff that had happened and I was on the run for about a year and a half and so when they finally caught up with me they couldn't find me guilty of a lot of stuff so they only would release me to my father and he was in Chicago it was my first time meeting him okay like as a kid were you getting arrested at all or not really no okay then I started to come later that started to come later I mean I got arrested a couple of times for robberies but I didn't do no no time no juvenile time okay so so you come back to your neighborhood in 84 and crack crack hits yeah South Central what do you start doing at that point I can remember the first day I came back I just came to the block on Fifth Avenue all the homies is there and everybody had thousands in a pockets I'm talking about everybody had thousands and I'm looking like so y'all doing it just for miss and it was it was basically like she'd get in you didn't get your check the Army's putting up in foreign whips and ragtop Mustangs is all over the foot all over the block and it was it was really giddy and figured out all that is great in the beginning the money starts coming and then the law starts to catch up with you yeah I mean well really if you look back at in hindsight it was more like that started coming to conflict with the homies started coming the inside conflict the bantering the mistrust kicked in it was a lot of stuff came with cocaine when cocaine came it was over those it was overwhelming because we would get money and we didn't understand how higher was affecting us you know we went from and it was two eras with me it was it was the era before I left and went and went to jail again and you know mm got back out mm on winning and I'm 87 and then went to Minnesota and that's really kind of like when I really started getting a lot of money you know then I fell again at 91 but up until that era was kind of like the boys in the hood like kind of like the real like really like the boys in her movie I think that's the closest I can say this out there they can depict it but the drugs to me it just kind of like destroyed the fabric of what we were it was it was devastating to me because you really can only trust certain people he became small like your pocket became small what's your own voice there was a situation that happened with uh with football player Kermit Alexander oh yeah with little feet so apparently there was a football player I think he played for the 49ers at one point and a few other teams and a home invasion happened his mother's sister and two nephews were killed yeah and it was the wrong house supposin supposedly supposedly it was two houses down my nose I wasn't even in town yet yeah and and it was pinned on the on the rollin 60s ole oak yeah and that kind of turned a microscope on to the rollin 60s at that point mm-hmm and it started all types of investigations and everything else like that so you weren't around during that time no I was in Chicago okay but you saw the after yeah I thought I came I came home like surely after that I came home like surely out there and it was kind of it was um it was um it was crazy I mean but really to be honest with you like it was one of them case where they had to put it on somebody yeah it went numb it was never a confession they were never nobody actually said these guys did it and they used the technology to say that Loeb dealer which is I called little feet you know Taekwon they said that he had fingerprints from him offer a weapon it was supposedly recovered but now even today what is it 10 to 40 years later 30 years later they started to question all the evidence you know first of all you couldn't even do finger prints back to him and the gun that day so car recovered he never got it from him they got him somebody else so it's kind of like you built a case and as in and I think horse got horses which is on burns was convicted and in a separate trial and he didn't had nothing to do with it you know me but it was it was something that happened and um I don't have no problem with talking about it because I feel like they got a raw deal yeah it was a lot easier to fake evidence back then and yeah you know now there's no there was no cameras there's no video cameras there was no nothing there's no forensic evidence there's no DNA evidence you know you could scare someone into confessing whatever no I neither one of them confess to nothing oh really so wasn't even that not nobody confess all circumstantial it was all circumstantial it was all basically they came up with something in them you know at the time you got to remember it was crack cocaine the neighborhood was moving and growing and you you you had if you were you were officer are you a police station you got to put the case on somebody you know I don't know what the mindset was on that I mean it's a professional football player yeah the whole country is looking at the situation yeah and I was I mean kids on route 17 it was till I was 17 weeks baby local 17 young when he caught the case so you know I mean but dealing with all that and I think his case come up right now they stay and review right now you've been shot before yes seven different times now seven different occasions yeah okay my first time I was 14 you talk about in those times 15 yeah no no I mean ain't that to it I was a my first time we was on some bullcrap you know at 14 at 14 we was in on wheezing the five uses you know we ended up doing I was doing some stuff and ended up getting shot first time and I think I was trying to show the first time then second time right here in this no first time I was in this shoulder the second time was in this shoulder and right here in this arm not shot no my homeboys shot me in the finger I healed and friend shot you the finger yeah doing what we was trying we was the houses we thought our house traded okay this is the early eighties 85 80 was 86 85 I had an apartment on 10th Avenue and we serve out the bars and so we did was we had bars inside the house inside we had barred door inside the door and bars own on both of the windows and we had a barred door on the inside so we should serve and so when the police pull up by Tony pull off the first bars they still got to get inside the second bars so we thinking the police is coming but they hitting the house doing next the house next to our appointment we throw all the guns out the window we on the third floor and then he going to get the books out the window and I'm pointing like right there and I guess when he put it that was the time I got shot in the finger that she heard the most they shot the legs two times Chinese boat by shot both legs and it just snow Piero's world she said like what eat each one of those well maybe not the finger part but each one of those other shootings could have ended your life yeah a little bit you know a little bit over a couple degrees over this way yes it isn't yeah yeah I couldn't hit your heart yeah now I hit me right here yeah right here this is the only time I really was tripping because my mother when I woke up I'm looking at my mother and she in the hospital she like when is this gonna stop I'm like whenever they get these handcuffs off me yeah so every time you got shot you'd never thought to actually quit and say let me just start over somewhere else who was in there it was it was pretty much we was on my mind said then was was we were we were we're in a war we trying to win want everybody know who we are you're gonna know who I name is gonna remember us and it's like being an army you know I mean you know this is a part this is a it's our badge I read Monster Cody's book as well you just mention it he said I remember you said something interesting in that book he said that you know when he was gang banging if an enemy rolled up on on his block they would sit there and shoot it out regardless of how a number they were mm-hmm one cop would roll up and everybody was scattered crazy Amy crazy doesn't matter if you're 100 deep on that block and I think that comes from I don't know I think I'm not not saying I know it comes from from slavery it comes from the the representation of the the kasnian is the overseers and the mindset of us not having a love or respect for our people because you got the first game and love and respect for your own kind or gain of love and respect for some that you were living died for so from a training of you have to respect this group as opposed to this group and it's the same one they've all got guns and you all have but the mentality of is to cops you got to run is it takes the training you know what I mean and that's actually what I see it being not being it because his death is certain death work it's the possibility of death regardless if it's the cop role of shooting or it's somebody else roll up shooting it's in you know it still deposited there but in our mind in our community we've been trained to just run just always see them as the overseers because you can see the same thing what I could put up in a European community and these white boys ain't gonna run it off like so what you know I got lawyers who got lawyers or the mentality is not to run yeah where they don't see them as a pyramid Terry group who is out to really dominate you and then because when you whenever you're dominated by a group they have to show that and that's when you see these killings of unarmed people they getting away with it because they have to show that they have the ability to kill you and off you and that goes back years these killings ain't new it was your worst experience will please when you want to start just give me the highlights first time I got beat about Shepard on Second Avenue you know I had to probably be and I won't even he knows I won't even in the streets yet I was coming on my books and the homies that just ran through him we had to slow cut I think there was chasing maybe key to rock or I'm casing knew what it was chasing but we had this little cut was where we can run running from the police and we could run certain ways and we had a little booby traps and if you didn't know win the jump or win the when the run through the circle your ass was gonna be flipping on your face so we were sitting there and we could look down a little the little side through the house and wait and there they go right when they got to the spot flipped up and hit right right into the wall and when he got out Shepard came up and he just beat us all up lined us up on the gate and went to work on us with a baton not here here's one over time but he's yes yeah yeah I said I was like alright and that and that type of thing continued through over the years over years I mean so you just get beat up by the police every yeah it was a it was a it was a time they could do what they want to you know it was a different era back to him right there's no body camps no I didn't like and I was telling my nephew him about about the thing they called the flash light therapy and um you know in the county jail back in the day yeah always really like beat you up flashlights that was killing dudes it was killing those it was like you know really um you could die and then growing in the county jail and at that time back then was more you had to worry more about the police than you did about other inmates the LA riots happened mm-hmm and you talked about how on the gang side it actually unified things yeah he described that I was gone you were gone I was gone again I had um when I left I maybe been in jail maybe two or three weeks and then I got charged will do the status and police while I was in jail and he ended up charging me with that too but nothing happened I had none do with that okay but the rice themselves kind of unified the Crips it needs to a certified to christen the Bloods a certain degree and um that was something that of course the overseers couldn't have happen so then it was things put in place that um you know kind of broke that Union up but it was good for a moment it was good for people to see that they could get together I was on the phone with um when it was I think it police it came through and did a drive-by actually just a drive-by on the homeless the police did a drive-by yeah you gotta remember they had took over the streets block barricade the streets and the streets was like locked down and it was coming through popping I think it was something like I might be a resource a couple hundred people couple hundred people died after that or in doing that time Wow by police well I wouldn't say by police but just whatever you know whatever yeah so at what point do you actually do your your longest bid from 1990 1991 to 2004 okay cuz you originally got 23 years Risley since 50 60 56 years it was only able to send me that since me 23 and you went up doing 13 you know 13 so what did you get 56 years for for nothing they said it was a possessiveness sales it was a robbery because what I used to do was I would come with a bag and when I come with the bag when they came with the bag we would take the bag so basically that's where it was they never came with no drugs it when there was an undercover police officer we were set up and ended up with a robbery kidnap and assault because they said that um I had to started the police service or some you know me and they call kidnapped by moving in for any amount of feet so and they ended up getting dropped down to whatever have you but well you're how old at the time in 91 22 20 22 23 you're a 23 year old being told that you're gonna get 56 years old 56 years in prison you were going to get out when at 78 made flying cars how does the 22 year old really really work that out in their head that they they're not going to get out until they're an old man what was well this was it's two more to part of that because so many of the homies had already been sentenced and they was getting life you have to kind of look at like well at least I'm not getting life and I'm doing half time 56 years though is it is different it's a different way you have to rationalize it I've been looking in like this is a part of life that we chose so it's like you're gonna soldier up or you gonna you know you're gonna fold and in our life in a life we live in South Central LA and we live on the streets it's kind of like that's what you know you know what you signed up for okay it ain't no way ain't no way out of it because you chose this well and you sort of know that it's coming you know what's coming yesterday I was one of the cats that knew I wasn't gonna do some time okay I mean I knew I was moving but we're not got the time my mentality was different I'd already cut my hair off I'd already change that um I was going I was on some different I was totally not totally different but my my relationship to my people was different and it was growing I was studying Islam but I really didn't have no visible means of maintaining the lifestyle I had set for myself you know me I had I start dealing with them Jim Brown Minister Farrakhan they actually said that in my sentencing transcript that the reason why they was giving me the max time was because I was taking Crips to meet Minister Farrakhan and that was one of my aggregating aggravates aggravating circumstances they give you time for bringing people to meet ya you have mitigating you have mitigating circumstances aggravating circumstances when you get sentenced and found guilty the district attorney submits two aggravating and the attorney your turn of your side submits two mitigating circumstances on why the children should give you the max time and why the judge gave your least amount of time one of the aggravating circumstances submitted by the digit attorney and the FBI who was following us at the time was that we were taking I was taking gang members to meet Minister Farrakhan and introducing him Islam which isn't illegal but it wasn't it was it was to him it was frowned upon it was Frank it was in mime days in my transcript where my sentencing transcript you will see it that's crazy so then you go to prison and you spend 13 years there right well what started to really change in your mentality as the years started to drag on well like I said I already Muhammad Ali had already been changed as far as um you know my mentality towards black people had already changed it towards my committee had already changed it was just that being young still being so young and still being connected it was um the sit-down only just affirmed where I needed to get who I need to go but I was already I feel like in my life I was already on my way there my hatred for just doing stuff to people that look like me or anybody had already kind of waned I mean was there a certain level of I'm selling drugs and I'm making I'm making money off these drugs to help support myself for my family but the destruction of what I'm doing has long ranging effects and was there a level of regret I read my grandma's autobiography you know maybe 90 you know I was on a mission to take some work somewhere else from one place to another place when I read the autobiography and I cut my hair off I fool my wife and my son my oldest son to Chicago and I stayed in Chicago for maybe three four months and then I came back to LA and my mind said I don't want to sell drugs to pitar people no more and that's what made me but I had a mass like maybe thirty forty thousand dollars a month and deals my tula brothers in private school paying for three I think I'd like three apartments that property just bought in Minnesota and I had all kind of stuff out here and so it was kind of like you know having those deals on how you gonna eat I can't just you know our money just draining out drain out so the only thing I knew still being young 22 or 21 or 22 I picked up the gun you go rob I know I do this kid and I feel like I was robbing from the drug dealers and then I could you know remove it but it still was it was it was a young man's ignorant steal at the same time I interviewed x-rated recently in prison are you familiar with his story mmm x-rated was a was a rapper out of a Sacramento in the in the early early 90s he was a and him and his friends you know there were all teenagers at the time were involved in a home invasion where there was a two rival gang members you know allegedly that they were trying to get they they they could kick the door down I'm shooting the mother of the two kids and she was like a mother of like five and the grandmother of like two and it was and then like he was the first rapper that they kind of used the lyrics of his songs against him in court because there was like a verse about kicking down doors shooting mamas and there was a gun that he was pointing at his head in on his album cover that matched the type of gun that was used in the murder even though we don't know whether it was the gun or not but essentially like the first rapper to get convicted of his lyrics off his lyrics and his album I'm all over this this was like 91 92 there was a bit as a big story in Sacramento know I was still in jail yeah so he's been in jail ever since he he got life so he's been in jail for thirty thirty years and he had a he had sort of a different point of view about gangs mm-hmm you know and I brought this up my interview tradie I'm gonna play it for you and just get your take on it dag it's a parasitic organism that lives in clothes and feeds on or within another organism without regard for the survival of his house right and that's the definition of a parasite and he went on to describe how the little homie really wants to be the big homie and wants to you know take over that position and the way he kind of described it was as a parasitic organism and you know but he's been off the street for 30-something years he might be bitter I mean but you know every I look at it like this everybody's experience is different yeah if you take my experience with like say my experience in prison what was prison to me and was prison so bad that I fear for my life I fear going I was telling everybody because of my experience what was a freedom to me what was my relationship with my what was my you know Mike mom what everything hired affected you that's how you view it then a moment that you do the interview it be speaks on how how you react to it me I could say this there have been problems for me and my own words and my family but there's no where do I see us as parasites I understand because I understand a little bit about the world that every organization has problems that's the reason why the Catholic Church and the Protestant church came from the Catholic Church that's the reason why Martin Luther left to church and they went to war that's the reason why we see Baptists Pentecostals and all these because they couldn't get along so if you ask me I would say that the gang culture is right on alone a lot of these different churches you you got if Jehovah Witness welcome to my house my mama you stay at one time but no crazy close the door and feel like the house was being invaded and we looking like what's happening you know and so what's the difference and I mean at one time because I study history the churches actually we're killing each other oh yeah between the Protestants in the Catholic Church I mean you could also look at the Dark Ages and Inquisition yeah and what what they would do that's still going on we still live in that time yeah well I mean like the way the way they would convert people yeah and the type of tortures and the creative aspect of what they would do to try to doing it yeah you still doing it right now so I mean I can actually move from that but yeah so I wouldn't say that I would say this that I think it's the mentality of the people who so-called Kali of several Jesus and he's different these different people of different gangs or whatever value if if your mentality is you call yourself og but you're still sitting on on a corner and you just getting high smoking and drinking and then you got this just youngster who has who has a vision or he's um he has his own car as own house he's doing this he's working that why would I be listening to you that's natural I may not even have respect for you after I reach a certain age so as young people we look up to everybody because at some point we actually start physically looking up to you then once I get your size and I start experiencing some of the things and I start seeing that you're not elevating and you can't continue to elevate me either then I started to lose respect for you I look at myself compared to certain dudes who called us FL G's right and I say that I continue to morph I continue to try to offer young people something I'll continue to offer young people to say that you can't be mad at the system you can't say that you can't do it you you know I kind of like don't give him a excuse you get out of prison and then you start getting involved in the music industry mm-hmm and corrupt was the first artist you start working with corrupt I was messed with in 1990 yeah so that was the first artist first article okay was he affiliated with death row yet or no no it wasn't no death row okay he probably would never even been a death row to find him at home okay fact so corrupt corrupt is originally from Philly right right so but he he moves out and he he's in the sixties he was living in the 60s area and you would never manage two artists or done anything music wise until then so how did it start off with you managing corrupt the mob Broomfield well in my Broomfield her had corrupt sign and me and the mob Broomfield grew up meeting the my it was Mila my broom for the battle cat we was like best friends now I got the producer yeah yeah and we all went to we all went for my 59 nothing battle cat didn't go to feed nothing bout cat we made a horse man so battle cat Mila my broom from the battle cat was like partners and then battle cat was always on the drums and in the school and I come pick him up school we go walk to to nutrition and all that you know just to like the three years ins there so I went to jail came out went to to another town to the soda and got a bag but my come with his kid oh you know Tom Tobin it was his garage today and they're making music and tone like man come over here we got this artist he needs your help with and I come over this corrupt and they make a corrupt rap like they pointed anything he rap and he's spitting it immediately which it was amazing I'm like then he in the record and it was my first time ever even seeing somebody record and make music was that um Broomfield so I think mate what no-nos it was a tonal tobin so maybe two or three weeks maybe a month later I'm still in the you know I'm still in the streets the lil homies is coming they want to go get out and I'm helping him out and I see corrupting the core and I'm like what you doing in here ain't you the rapper and he like yeah and I might make it out the car he pulled about the car yeah I'm like you you got a whole nother purpose like and I know he'll ammaji but my Broomfield rapper and I'm like you don't need to go with the homies I'm like I put him out the car and I tell him man get on back around into the garage where he posed to be a and then the lamas took off on a little thing I guess and I see corrupt maybe a two weeks later and I'm telling the mom I'm like man you better get your boy your boy um he's going down the wrong road he's like no I mean I'm cool being on me I didn't go and I'm like alright we're doing this so we just was I've been in the studio then we could do the paperwork I started delicious entertainment that was the name of the group back then my company I'd already just signed a deal for a male or female exotic dance company and it was I'm just gonna take my wife he wouldn't get the paperwork so then we was doing a music part and unfortunately it was I was gone did you ever see the corrupt interview that I did no let me play it for you I asked her up I don't know if you remember when Kendrick had that king of New York line when he say he was my own yeah you didn't her ups line yeah no one had actually put those pieces together though it was corrupted it was corrupt yeah tell him equality mentioned to me so I I brought it up to corrupt so when I interviewed telling them quality this was and I'm looking up right now I was August of 2013 this got half a million views on YouTube mmm he said that the Kendrick was quoting you in his verse in the control verse smite killer sleeper cell you caught you called yourself the King in New York you know in a previous song and when he said it a lot of people didn't realize it hey now York what is the king of New York what they corrupt me you tell me about King in New York what was the whole verse mind you Kendricks your verse I'm important like the Pope I'm gonna king in New York live from South Central I'm a Muslim and pork mmm that means I'm gonna worst and that's all admit I'm the worst an important like the Pope important I'm the king of New York his name was Frank right you notice how since somebody from the West Coast will say they're the king of New York they automatically assume we're disrespect in New York right I'm sick of that we don't have a problem with you New York stop it my king of New York is a movie it's a movie bringing quarters so Frank white who's straight white Christmas wrong he's the king of New York it's a movie man yeah we don't want your city your country your town you know what we from Los Angeles we from Compton watch Inglewood we are so West Coast what a what we want to be where und we don't like your streets we like ours because ours we don't have a problem with you guys my we don't have a problem with y'all cuz sorry about that I had to get better that the greatest ending ever you've never seen that God there is eat it okay you know corrupt very well what's your reaction today he told it right he was talking about a movie like our movies influenced em they're moving the film I just quoted before I even said I just quoted a king of New York yeah when Laurence Fishburne had them to the guns yeah oh he was all the king of New York but it was out of respect anybody even about New York it was really about that movie like it was really about Frank white yeah when we called herself the king of New York and then she to us king of New York don't mean king of New York it mean the king getting any white cuz of us is young neighbor with us you don't saying that's why you see a lot of dudes a neighborhood where my head it don't mean New York at all if you see that Yankee hat in LA and means neighborhood okay so you start working with with corrupt mm-hm and then death row starts to form right and the Dogg Pound and everything else like that how did you kind of maneuver corrupt into into that whole situation well I did IIIi did maneuvering mentor because it was kind of like a he got into it and then all the harmonies mad so I was in I just got found guilty I was in the armed reception center and my wife came to see me and she was like corrupt wants you to call because the homies is mad at him about the being on death row or the Mike well she's of course you know I can't call so I went from trench I'm when I was transitioning and then when you get to the pinion you got to go through the not using the phone you one phone call a month so all that and then just probably like a year or so I'm looking at him on death row and then the homies mad about him saying gangster and then Broomfield him as mad and so it was just a lot of you know anger a monster hummus and they corrupt was like well my Big Brother's big you and I'm like whoa you know stall the kid out and it kind of went from there but I said could I always say corrupt as the hardest dude from the hood because he branded the hood when he when he wasn't even with it and it was hard and he traveled the country and took it with nobody else had ever took it and he did it by itself for a lot of time oh he was the only one that was yeah he was kind of like he was he was by itself he was with a bunch of long beach dudes right representing you know his city and he came back to do a solo project he did it right on Crenshaw on Slauson and I and I and because I related to that because I never lived in the 60s I always lived everywhere else my mother lived I live in in Hoover's I live in Dillon Lions I love him differently so I understood how it felt not to be on the block all the time I had to catch the bus to the to be from the hood I knew what it felt like to walk to the liquor store and somebody else's neighborhood and dudes know who you are were you from and you got to ask for these questions every single day I know it that you were getting aspirated from man I lived in I live in I lived in the Hoover's down living a dimmer lanes I live all in places I went to different schools it was what an easy being me yeah I'm catching the bus to the hood all the time so we were you out when when death row started to build up and corrupt started not at all you were in jail the whole time ever happen when I had no death row what do you mean I love shared to death but he definitely would have been moving around LA like that cuz in LA at the time you wouldn't you when you wasn't saying blood you wouldn't wearing a red at that time you wouldn't that wasn't happening and you definitely were moving like that without major situations yummy and I think what Edward was able to give rise to share to the growth ensured to move like he was was the riots the unity from the riots and do not tripping and on the gaming on each other that's really what gave rise to death row because when that happened more people started moving in moving in like they was moving but no so you get out what year 2004 aha by that time death row was already on his way down on his way out it was yeah I remember where I wasn't to par got killed I was in the Salinas Valley 180 level for you know I remember when the officer came and told me he said on your hard words killed Tupac my mom was killed to me but only thing he correlated said whoever killed Tupac had s hats on and there you gotta towards these dudes and they saw it automatically and I later I go dance had to see how a man who had meant to homies and I'm calling I called humming I mean and I had a cell phone at the time I never had none to do with that that was you know me would ever happen yeah I'm like oh alright you know but that was the first time I heard what to puck he got killed you know to pocket oh no I never made no no relationship I know his music though yeah I know his sound yeah I love to we all did did you hear the key fede confession mm-hmm he didn't hear a key fede is that the bodyguard no key fede was Orlando Anderson's uncle would he confess to killing well he confessed that Orlando killed Tupac oh you wanna hear it no he was given a deal and this was he was gay Keef he did so he snitched no yeah so so that the deal essentially was was they had caught him with a bunch of a PCP and they they allowed him to say what he knew about Tupac's murder in exchange for them dropping all those charges and the way the deal was set up whatever he said as long as it wasn't proven to be false it couldn't be used against him directly to indict him and at the time essentially everyone outside of him was was dead that was in that car Oh Orlando was already dead at the time Oh everyone else told him I did man essentially okay dig him up and put him in trial did they go to Vegas it put it down or they just did it just happen like they see it happen well the way he described it was you know baby laying Orlando guy you know Orlando got jumped mm-hmm they regrouped with the rest of the squad the South Side south side guys and one of the guys had a gun and they went went looking for him they went to club 662 originally but they they weren't there yet and then they were driving around and then some girls like Tupac to puck and they saw a Shooks car with Tupac in it and Orlando took the gun and an open fire Wow and yeah that's that happen well that's the way he described it tell us a lot of them yeah everyone I've talked to has pretty much said it's not that no they did they all they all told me the same story even before I heard that it's not happen right yeah yeah he get what did he get that I mean this really this happened a few years ago but the tapes recently got published I actually interviewed a Greg Kaeding who was the head cop that's the cop that got him to confess and yeah I've never interviewed everybody around you do a deal how did they even come up with that we don't give you immunity well that they were trying to solve the Tupac murder it had been a cold case now for there was like 10 years or you know 15 years by that point so you get out death row is kind of a you know in decline but you well first of all you and hereo had a relationship yeah okay heavy it was kind of like the first person I ever really give me books on the music industry him and BJ had a little thing going but Harry was the first one cuz I got I like to say I got my my book educational music from Harry oh you know my actual application of it from Suge Knight yeah and hereõs the one who originally funded death row yeah allegedly however it has something to do with each other yeah exactly but I love Harry your oh man Harry o is a different kind of bottle of sugar oh you like Harry owes a different kind of guy Harrier was the it's crazy like they're the same people day different and because I was able to look on outside and look at both of them and in doing them and meet one at one time another one Harry always i'ma get it done no matter what you know let's go get this done and find a way to get it done get it financed whoo - here we go Aereo is the one you can go on the board meeting he gonna take over the room I kind of patted myself more like Harry Oh like because he wants to understand where you coming from sure gets more of the I got it I was in the right place at the right time we're gonna do it this way and Minnie muck you and we will you know cheering more on the gorillas side but he has a it's a purpose to it it's not like I'm fortunate I can't agree with me when they say sugars a bad person because a lot of these people were so naive I mean so they so uh backstabbing and and you can't really trust him I think that's what made sure become who he is records he would collect on deals that people weren't paying up and I'll make you a bad person but he I mean he would take on a lot of issues for other people yeah my hereo was more I think I'm more like hairier because I find a way to make the deal happen and if the deal don't happen I know you got to come back to me later you only see me again I'm not gonna hunt you I'm not going you know what I mean yeah what do you think my show's current situation I think he got about do you probably got to do about three more calendars three formal calendars at the most three more years that's the most and then get out yeah I mean he has a good shot based on the situation yeah he'd be only when you look at it the only thing is is that he's now on his 15th lawyer and I believe he has a public defendant now I actually works for you the public is all he really needs you know I mean you only need to be it's to be found guilty for murder and first-degree murder you need to have he can't be charged for murder so that manslaughter basically yeah you have to be he could only he could only be charged with manslaughter he could even with vehicle manslaughter so that takes all of the death in life off of it okay so that's not a third strike no I would I mean he couldn't see because for him to get the third strike and they really moving that they really trying to do away with that but now they bring in other laws back but I don't think he in place they're gonna wash him up and him going through these different lawyers and all the different you know investigators is kind of works in his favor there was a story on The Daily Beast that I guess the prosecutors and shug's case essentially talked about a long history of Suge intimidating people and they try to tie you into that yeah you're you're aware of this yeah I've seen it okay what is your take on that I mean they reach it you know you reach in I do a whole lot of stuff man I mean I do that I do kids what they can do it for sure is one only one thing is for certain is that the gang violence in Los Angeles California is down to the lowest experience since 1967 66 and that's important because big you was all right you know me I got to be the I got to be one of the only dudes or one of the biggest forces of people who came from and we came from that has been propagating finest stopping the violence and muscle people and not toot my horn well you actually work with the mayor's office yeah have you have a grant right from the mayor's office and a staff of people that go out and try to essentially deal with situations that are starting to escalate right yeah we do that we've been successful I mean like I said I'm what we do is not not new it's um it's a grant that was written by Dianne Feinstein maybe 20-some years ago over a billion dollars that comes into to the city that deal that deals with gang intervention what they did was they wanted to go get certain OGS or certain people who had influence in certain neighborhoods to get them to become a part of the program to go out and reach out to young people and and and try to stop the rumors or the assumption of who may have done sudden where gang violence is coming from so with that we're able to I hired dudes from all the different games that surround the rollin 60s and we stopped a lot of the conflicts right including including the Mexican gangs also include the message guys yeah we had to have employees from every every set and so why was why it had an immediate effect is because once you start hiring the vng is the role of sixties in the 40s and all the different gangs is right in the media area in 77 it was a hot zone we started being able to hire them and he got people concentrating on conflicts it took the violence down and they continued to take the violence down it's a it's actually a platform that really should be implemented across the country if people want to see their cities safe like let me see is one thing Crenshaw district is so safe now that they move in the white people back in you know I mean they selling it on that because really we see I see more gang violence in the way it is now in the cities that started adopting gangs right because we'll put up an interview Arian Foster did an interview with snoop he's a he's a football player football player he does a podcast now and he did an interview with snoop and he was talking about an old jitta game you have to like look step back about holy yo there's Crips in New York there's Crips in boss every listen Crips in Florida lie every wish it is insane it started y'all know yes I don't notice it oh sit they started in my city in Long Beach doesn't sing the whole country Crippen you know being originally from that area when you saw all this start to spread you start seeing bloods in Louisiana and and you know Bloods into your gloves every you know crib yeah no Jose encrypts in a little rock and and that whole kind of phenomenon like what is your take on that um I'll see I said I said coach it's um it's what people is adopted I don't have a problem with it be honest with you but I do have a problem with I have a problem with us not our people not morphing into something somebody asked me what do I do I feel like the neighborhood's will be worse or be better off if gangs weren't in them I say this if the games mature into men and it's not about the violence the drugs in the in the beforee then you have organization that can help your community it's really about the people making the decisions in the community if the old mentality is not about helping your community and cleaning your community and being a sign that beacon light in your community then of course you should be removed but it's about like me for instance right I'll have no tattoos well I'm not a gang member I'm a community member yeah you know what I mean and I'm for the people in our community I would like to see the program that I have implemented in every community because it's been successful what we do what the key is what we do with the homies is coming home from prison offering them jobs helping them do stuff is is you know you could say you can say where we used to be but you can say now it's me and we make decisions that are there that are productive to our community so you used to manage Nipsey Hussle right Nipsey had a real interesting perspective he did an interview I'm not sure where where it was exactly but he said he talked about an incident that he was somehow involved and it was like some some shootout had happened at like a gas station I guess and he came home and like his mother grandmother said oh were you involved in that he said oh no no I wasn't and but they had video footage of the whole thing and he said he saw over the next few weeks all the home he started getting arrested and everything else like that and he realized that at that point the way he had been doing things is no longer gonna work no because of the cameras and because of the the level of surveillance and he said he said something interesting he said that the the older homies who never had these cameras and this level of you know evidence that could be used against you we're guiding the younger the you know the younger generation in a direction that was unintentionally going you know in the wrong place because they just didn't know so so you're taking advice from the older generation but now you have all this new technology that's working against you he realized that at that point he needs to sort of switch up his mentality right do you agree with that I I don't know where he said on the way was going with it but I can agree to different different areas and different people have so it's like it's the bunch of do this oh geez like it's crazy but because the west where structures is no really it's not me because the way it is there's no real structure but yeah it is you were to even go through the stuff that we went through when we was younger before the cell phones and these cameras only blocks and get away with it right you could get away with DNA or anything back in the day he said if you think about you even take it back a hundred years where you could shoot someone and move to the next town over change your name change your name shave your beard and it was over you would never get caught and then fingerprints and DNA and then video cameras everywhere and cell phones that hasn't died don't stop people I mean you're looking slows people down a little bit you mad you mad yeah if you if you if you upset you matter because but you going now it may stop that dude who's not really serious about it but it's not gonna stop somebody who if they going they're going and they really ain't caring in that moment about little cameras and I've seen it happen there was some sort of situation that happened some sort of shootout with you nipsey LAPD something not I was that was what seven years ago eight years ago yeah it wasn't oh shoot at one no shooting it was a where the police was shooting yeah I know it was a family dispute you know me and that's what happened families had disputes you know I mean that's my little brother you don't Shane I love him to death we just did the whole little tour but I mean it was like any and everybody else sometimes you have a dispute you gotta you understanding we come from a place where that that happens you know me and like I said if he got a problem I got a problem I got a problem he definitely gonna have a problem okay you know I mean it's just like you might hear about me and my son is having problems so me and Mikey is me and my wife is thank God how many kids do you have five you have five kids and I remember you mentioned that you're waiting for one of your stones to go to college no he's inked up he's in college I was an old rabies yeah renown of that I feel like you don't want your kids to follow in your footsteps know that my motivation my motivation for purposely trying to get this gang violence to the point to where it's none is my kids my sons that sons who were at the age with that target age and when I came home I definitely wanted to be a part of the solution and getting LA to where it is right now today you know me and my motivation is a selfish motivation because I have sons and I'll never want to see my sons Lana no Cassie what was there a level you know you could tell your kids whatever you want to tell them but they reach a certain age and they're gonna have their own and you know and with me most people know my kids know our sons they aggressive they they industries but it was the sons that I was gone for like I was going on 13 years so my two boys was 30 years without a father yeah and in my last two kids about 13 years where the father so they're a lot different than the other two so when I was going with 13 years in my last 3 years and 9 months I did in the shoot so I was three years and nine months straight in the hole and I was like no communication with my sons so they grew up hearing the stories that big you yeah you know me like the legend of big you and you know getting shot taking the guns and shot multiple times and they grew up with that and I didn't with him I didn't know the effect of I don't want them to come visit me while I was in the hole because it was only like you had to drive three hours you want to get a 15 minute visit and then you gotta drive three hours back so I don't know my wife had to bring my sons and go through that and then you only in a glass so how they gonna take terms so I don't want to put him through that so I came home with 2004 but I only had been on a mainline 21 days before I was released and that was my that was the time they got to meet me and so it was a transition me coming home and not coming home the person they had been hearing about you know I mean they heard about this this street dude and I guess all the newspaper articles and whatever how you big you - he did this he did that and when I come home I'm I'm not actually the person they had been hearing about I'm a lot different I'm I'm the opposite well you can probably just see torch so he could be this guy but you know of me yeah so I was there was a difference to them you have a non-profit and you sent over 150 kids to college no no more than that more than that my back way more than that hundreds yeah no yeah more than that yeah we we have a lot more than that well and then your viola snoops football league as well yeah we have a team in smoothly got its new passer eighteen eighteen different SME chairman said chapter he has 18 different chapters where one of the chapters I love smoothly got it that's new used to run one of his own chapters in his League of his 18 well you have talked about what we're talking about some of the work you're doing now you mentioned that's your route to heaven yeah yeah yeah I'm gonna I'm trying to get in heaven so you feel that some of the stuff you've done in the past you have to make up for no I know it you know I want to balance I don't want to I don't want to be remembered for being the this negative force you know I mean I don't want to I don't want to live my life and the only thing you can remember about big you was he was this he was that he was this he was that you know I mean he fought all these different cases you did this to people I feel like if on the day yamaha yama when i want to be able to say that I did right I want to be able to say whatever we had a part of I did right and I feel like in 2018 with just with the gangs and the murders and all that down in LA that I'm getting there you know meaning that we can get it all the way down to where because if this if this Lois's mean since 1966 and Krypton started in 1969 then put that on big you mmm you know what I mean like let me get that less violence since there was Crippen since 1969 let me down and what happened was we purpose it was purposely done with knit see you got a credit to move it to Missy movement in the beginning with what we was doing because it wasn't about a color we purposely right moving it with the red and the blue doing songs right because I remember clearly like in the 90s hearing that alley artists would not work together just because the gang alliances right you may like DJ quicks beat but where you're from you cannot you cannot associate with you know with that blood set you can't be in the same studio together you can't do this you can't do that you look at these days yg works with everybody Nipsey works with everybody I feel like now let me explain the difference between because they people did do things together but it wasn't the Roma sixties though see because then it goes to being like yeah I remember one if she came out here the first artists and the only order everything never come out claim a city he claimed the same long beach these claims are set and he claimed one of the most violent sets on records so when we start moving I used to purposely watch all our videos make sure not to tell Stephen oh that video can't go out because in the back of it I got somebody say a cross-table hmm and that video no you can't do this and we still purposely like make sure we weren't dissing people but representing represent up right and if she would wear red yeah I'm like yeah when I wear what you want to wear you don't mean because I knew that it would it was sent a message to LA and once we was able to kill the color line that bull effect you see red you got a target you got attack it you got to go at it it would it would it would start making people that be able to move and so right now you see you see you see Crips and bloods together it's no it's no danger to affiliation and now any like when when if you want to move you want to go out with us man you can't be tripping on nobody cuz we're gonna be around these different guys they're gonna be around this and put that on me let me get that yeah you know me you can say that my 15 years of freedom and my 15 years freedom I would like that to be my call ya mean like absolutely I was able to I was there because I I've been in this fight you know I mean I've been at these tables with these different gangs and these different mayor's all the different police departments to sit down to try to figure out what not you can't just lock people up we're not trying but I want that yummy I don't want to be able to say you know you know I was instrumental in helping doing that absolutely now from what I understand you correct me if I'm wrong but when a rapper loses his chain in LA big use one of the first people that they call they should I mean I'm proud of you know the metal detector of Los Angeles essentially I've been hit I've been instrumental in helping people get get they get them they change back over the years and that's only because a lot of dudes have a little respect for me you know me and nothing easy it's not it's not easy sometimes you can get it back at some time you can't you know there's been situations where it's like it's deficit wasting you might get it back pull up and they don't and then he just not he already sold it or it's not nobody we connected directly to but for the most part most of the mostly young people in LA have a great deal of respect for me and they see the work that I do well I also feel like when people get into some sort of issue sometimes unintentionally like the car DB issues like from what I understand what cardi B was out here you were with her no not at all okay my mind with her I want actually was was dealing I had a deal with the quit the club that she was going with and we still cuz we that's like are we already deal with them before okay ace of diamonds hey Odie so as you already know Mohammed's already run that okay no that's something that we are also had nothing to do with that particular City it was that situation but it wasn't like I wasn't definitely like on a poster on her team at all okay no good I mean but speak it on that I was vocal in saying I still don't understand why you know right she well she wore a blue jacket and she called it I lost secret blue is he safe Lou but I mean it's some things I don't say so these people don't say you know me but they went crazy on her because she on top of the chain right now how to protect you know what I mean but as people do it every single day like my nephew you know saying I'm Joe Moses grandfather's almost got a whole song we say that would say back-breaking back-breaking right now guess what because Joe Moses is official born and raised in South Central a born and raised in vnz okay nobody take that from me but every wire prison all that guess what the next youngster from somewhere out-of-state gonna say you gonna say the same thing but because cardi B is called EB and I mean like I said I said this all the time I understand our family being offended by that because that's on the highest level and but me myself personally I didn't see it so if I don't see it on the react Takashi came to LA before me it feels buffoonery mm-hmm but I believe that's where hip-hop he is right now it's just it ain't about the music no more it's not about the music it's about the attention the attention yeah you know um the people who sign in these artists right now today the labels just sign these artists a sign of somebody first thing one knows what your numbers look like so how much before we have you done or can you do to get people to go look at push the like button to push the follow button okay I just slapped this dude I just it just did this won't do make your page private now you're not gonna have to subscribe but I don't have to do this and it's all it is look at all of the top artists it's out right now it's nothing about they music it's about the shock value it's about certain artists I mean there's Kendrick of course there no no we that's the artist that's gonna kinder game nowhere near we'd even go put Kendrick yeah or Jake owes or yeah nothing's dudes in the category that we taught my with this buffoonery yet all we got to be clear with that Kinji game none of the rapids were really rapping about something it's just different I mean when I first heard the first rap song gravity light or rock I remember yeah 79 78 horse man middle school we all own it we all own the own own own a blacktop rapping the lyrics we all coming out everybody know the lyrics and everybody know what part of it you you can start I can stop and we gonna repeat the whole song all the way around I remember with people new lyrics to songs you don't know lives to these songs you don't even hear the song to come out no more I mean number one on Billboard's and nobody heard it well I mean what's the little girl named is 14 over bad baby yes she had a gold single now to be fair though Takashi had like five songs on the charts at one point and why why I think his music is pretty good just think no I love gum oh is that the one we see is what his songs are like it's one of the songs I like but my point is this I'm not talking about his music I'm talking I look at this look at this effect look at him when you look at this kid right now what do you see rainbow here yeah a bunch of tattoos yeah and and all the stuff in his mouth yeah if I'm passing down the timeline and I don't know who he is and I'm a grandmother grandfather when I get past that I'm gonna say what is this shock value yeah so you're gonna give it a listen to it because you just need to see what what is this now if I hear dear mama imma listen to dear mama yeah because I'm right here and I want to hear what he said I'm a listener dear mama because it resonates with me I still listen to dear mama and some of Tupac songs Brenda had a baby to this day because those songs ride with me now you tell me what are you gonna listen to from six know those five songs it's on Billboard whatever which one I'm selling on this to five years from now dear mama and I mean that's anybody you got kids coming on right now disrespecting to pot Oh get it yeah I'll get it Oh I mean this is in that shot that yeah oh three Greedo just did it still don't get it he's I think grape Street something like that oh man okay what street you from yeah I mean I'm not gonna get it no disrespect that nobody else but I'm not gonna get it I respect somebody that's dead one too he's a legend in music three from the west coast you know me any no matter where he started from me yeah period point but there was I guess a rumor that six nine to reach out to you for protection or something like that no I was um it was a situation between him and trippy red yeah should be a mature we really had a situation going on you know what an honest said nobody hit me to read something going on and at the time I just left New York with nipsey and um I talked to his squad about them trying to cross Taylor because I know the guy who owns the label and I know the security was with him so that's kind of a long story but I talked to both of them both sides did it work it worked for a second the time being you know I mean but yeah I talked to both him I talked to both of these sides yeah I mean there's the whole concept of checking in and I think nipsey did an interview on The Breakfast Club he described it as friendly extortion I check in I don't know I don't know when it was going because nipping never gotta check in with anybody right I think well I think this is all over the world not not checking in with people you know but you know how some people say you gotta check in if you come to my city and they don't actually know you yet I never said that yeah I'm not saying you did oh yeah yeah I'm saying I'm saying that that that's the concept the people gotta check him I don't believe it like that like aa secret this dis my opinion like this if you a rapper right and you gonna move to LA which you're gonna Vince EMU to LA and you know our culture out here if you don't have an affiliation then you just don't because initially it's gonna check you in why not just get regular security because that's what they gonna be affiliated with somebody to I mean not always I mean I have security that isn't gang affiliated maybe you think they ain't know you got let me say to you like this almost everybody in LA is affiliated or somebody or cousin or friend of someone right driver your car domain let me hear this you got people who come out here and they become affiliated even if they don't be affiliated through they shoes soon agree future baby mama cousin who's a friend part of personally buy weed from or a person who they go to the gym with or somebody's doing something put like this when you go to the Beverly Center I'm gonna get a call their son says in the barycenter and somebody may not even know that just guess who I just seen and every it happens all the time all over LA you pop in the restaurant somebody might say they seen such and such they don't even be intention on doing it but they might be telling somebody else I just see and I every time I go through where somebody gonna call Stephen tells T they see me no matter where I'm at a city or in the country still gonna get a call but somebody say hey Steve crime you say bro you in Atlanta yeah I already know what it was somebody seen me and he told me it happens in LA if you not affiliated with somebody guess what it's it only a matter of time now guess what happens to six nine I mean he six not seven years from now he'll still be six not a kid or with disrespectful the money is gone now the labels have moved on to other projects guess what happens people still remember what he said most II remember and you did kid in New York I mean I was on some stuff back to you or not sir I think it happened with me if we talk about gangbanging what a gang banging had I mean that you are affiliated forever right same thing with disrespect be a disrespectful to a city right because you had similar problems in Houston or not Houston but oh yeah Texas Texas Austin Austin Texas with the with J Prince is a sons mm-hmm yeah I mean I hope nothing happens I was really gonna be I personally don't feel like is nobody she lose their life nobody yeah I don't know I personally think it should go that far it would be ridiculous if he did I mean honestly I'm being brutally honest like it would be ridiculous to take words to violence especially words to kill him like that would be the most ignorant thing in anybody mind right to take that to that level even though you've seen it your whole life I've seen him on what not actually the violence with us is actually not just be words it comes from real violence right but I've seen so many situations where a couple words the you know I interviewed a rapper Chi Ali who got into it with his his baby mother's brother and they started arguing and and the brother said the suck his dick you know invited him to his dick and he pulled out a gun and killed him he basically told me I was dead and he ended up telling me you could suck my dick over the phone over the phone I go to the Avenue like if you know Throgs Neck is one one like strip Oh was that Dewey Dewey right yeah I go to do it because I know he's always out to aspirate he also that one so I see him on Dewey we exchanged a few words you know he's talking some gangster on Toto some gangster did he threaten you at that point um it happened so fast I don't know that he threatened me you know he turned around and just was talking like when I ran up on a like well yeah you know I backed out and clap them I remember running leaving the scene I remember getting rid of the gun and I remember thinking damn being like you know my life father so that was probably a little bit more than that you'd probably history building up today yeah there was but but those words is know triggered whereas words of vibrations you mean where's the vibration the triggers Moses in horse and is just like a punch to so if you go that way you got a point but I don't I definitely know I would probably look at somebody like really stupid you know going to gun violence or violence over with this just just just kids saying the door yeah I don't know I don't and that's just being honest like I could see the kid right man be like you know what I'm not gonna do nothing I'm not finna he could walk in this room right now pounders handshakes in to keep on going on there you know a lot of organizations when you look at history they start out one way they they start out as gangs they start out as as crews or whatever else and they elevate over time you look at the Kennedys his family were bootleggers they're essentially gangsters yeah you know you're not you're not you're not selling the legal substance without some violence to go along with it and probably some killing to go along with it if you were to say what your ultimate wishes for Crips regardless of how it started where do you wish that it would go did you wish at one point it would turn political where you know certain political parties could help get elected from you know you know you know when you look at communities where communities are considered there you know like Beverly Hills and so forth I believe that it's time for it's time for elevation yeah it's time for people to stop letting it's time for for us to let people label us and it's time for us to move in different directions like I I put a post up today talking about running for City Council oh you're ready for City Council know I'm thinking about it okay you know that's what's up but that's the natural elevation yeah and I read this book by nine my boy called visions for black man and it's not about I don't want to be condensed nobody continued to discus down the Crips and bloods we need to be condensed we need to be men we need we looked at as men because if you take the connotation of Crips and blood the country has already put a name on that so now when you say you a or a blood you already fighting behind the history uh whoa you know it is dis Hyde and that's unfair in his first place so now you already send yourself behind you know a wall you got to climb the wall I did compete with everybody else but I believe that men us as men who come from an environment should had an opportunity to to go for and do other things that are positive in our nature and our nature being a growing and to becoming men who are responsible for their family to deal to deal with politics to deal with the earth to deal with all the different things that affect us because if you say you're a of blood that don't mean that you don't believe that don't mean you don't got to eat that don't mean that your food don't come from some food source or water don't don't mean that you send somewhere else different than everybody else I mean when you get forty and fifty you start thinking differently at 12 and 13 what I did I don't want to be the only person in the room just for what I did when I was 14 years old mm-hmm why you don't get judged by what you did when you was 14 years old right I actually interviewed Shaka Senghor he's author he he's from Detroit he killed someone during like a drug deal gone bad when he was 19 or 18 went to prison wrote a best-selling book about his experience he was on Oprah now he's you know and and his thing is that you should not be judged by your worst moment you know the rest of your life should not be judged by your worst moment depending on what that moment is and he actually killed somebody you see I'm saying yeah and he feels remorseful over that situation so yeah man I think his dope how you've evolved and continued to evolve and taking the you know the experience that kind of got you to this point and you know this is the one thing I've always I've always said I said that there's no such thing as a successful person who isn't constantly reading right and people will bring up Floyd Mayweather can't read and it's like okay you're not Floyd Mayweather you know you're not you're not an athlete of that caliber let's just let's just keep a 100 and the fact that you read so much oh you know me too I do audiobooks myself I'm reading a book a week you know like clockwork I think that's very important because you can't just get this type of dial the top of a YouTube video or a Borah blog or whatever else and I think it's important for people to kind of get that cuz every book changes you right it does I remember when I first started reading in prison with I think the scary thing was when I started reading in prison it made me feel disconnected like I think you say when you asked me earlier about what changed in me it was it was it was um in prison it made me realize and I hate to say it like - it made me realize how uninformed we as a people are like I was in prison with a bunch of black men and Hispanics and whites and the more you read the more you distance yourself from the crowd because you started realizing like the way we thinking is not correct so then you got to still deal with your people but you start feeling a disconnect and when you start to growing and starting to want to see other thing in visualize the world because books start opening up the world to me yeah like before before I started reading I had never been to Europe I had never been to Africa had never been these from places right and I still have it but I've been there too books yeah I mean when I interviewed Freeway Ricky Ross when he went to prison he didn't know how to read I never saw any any reason why should we I didn't see where it was gonna fit into my into my world okay you know if a person don't understand it's like trying to get a person to walk around with an empty bottle in a pocket they're not gonna do it for what you know why would I walk around with this making my pants tight and taking up space I could put something I'm gonna use okay and that's the way I looked at reading but once you got to prison then you realize that if you don't learn how to read you're gonna be in there forever yeah and then you started learning how to read gradually he was illiterate right moving hundreds of millions of dollars worth of were the money in cocaine and but they know but that changed once he went to prison and he actually figured out how to beat his own case right yeah by reading yeah me a Rick did time you know that's actually well I'm if we were it I met him in 48 on it yeah oh that's what it is big you appreciate you telling your story man that's a hell of a story you know and I think it's gonna inspire a lot of people I hope so yeah I know so I know so that's what it is

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Length: 95min 35sec (5735 seconds)

Published: Wed Jun 27 2018