Best CPUs of 2022 (Intel vs. AMD): Gaming, Video Editing, Budget, & Biggest Disappointment

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Is 5800X3D still going to be made or stocked? I heard some people saying they are gonna be done now and I can't find any new in stock.

πŸ‘οΈŽ︎ 27 πŸ‘€οΈŽ︎ u/Brandon_2149 πŸ“…οΈŽ︎ Nov 24 2022 πŸ—«︎ replies

I agree with every choice except for the Best Budget CPU category, where the Ryzen 5 5600 is an alternative that's definitely worth considering. It's more expensive, but it gives you better gaming performance, and its 2 extra cores gives it a considerable advantage in many productivity tasks.

It's overall a more well rounded product, and at least where I live where it's only 30€ more. Cheap B450/B550 motherboards are also about the same price as cheap H610 boards, so that's not a problem either. But of course, check your own country's local prices to determine whether the extra price is worth it.

πŸ‘οΈŽ︎ 101 πŸ‘€οΈŽ︎ u/RearNutt πŸ“…οΈŽ︎ Nov 24 2022 πŸ—«︎ replies

I'm perplexed the i3-12100f stole Ryzen 5600's place as the best budget CPU.It's about 30 dollars or so more but has 6cores/12 threads as opposed to intel's 4 cores/8 threads.

When you consider that AMD motherboards are cheaper than Intel it's hard to go for i3 12100f over 5600.

πŸ‘οΈŽ︎ 67 πŸ‘€οΈŽ︎ u/glantonenjoyer πŸ“…οΈŽ︎ Nov 24 2022 πŸ—«︎ replies

I managed to get a 5800X3D for $429.99 CAD which is $321.15 US. Pretty noticeable boost in performance compared to my 3600, everything is so much smoother. When I was leaving the store it felt like I had captured a unicorn considering I had been stalking my local store for weeks waiting for stock.

πŸ‘οΈŽ︎ 7 πŸ‘€οΈŽ︎ u/DoubleExposure πŸ“…οΈŽ︎ Nov 24 2022 πŸ—«︎ replies

Bought a 5700x with AM4 mobo, not sure if I should cough up ~$300cad for a 13600k + mobo combo instead.

πŸ‘οΈŽ︎ 28 πŸ‘€οΈŽ︎ u/Rockefeller07 πŸ“…οΈŽ︎ Nov 24 2022 πŸ—«︎ replies

No one's talking about the 13700k. 8 E cores vs 16 E cores only makes a difference in number crunching workloads, but 8 P cores vs 6 P cores can carry farther into gaming workloads.

So what's the difference between 13700k P cores and 13900k P cores? The stock clock. You're either thermally constrained and could use a big AIO or you're setting constrained and just need to bump the max turbo boost ratio. That's it. No reason to spend $600+ on the best gaming CPU. Following buildzoid's Hynix A-die settings I raised the 13700k's gaming performance by 3% and am constrained by my NH-D14. I have no doubt that with an AIO I could match OoB 13900k gaming performance. Beyond that, I have significant doubts that the 13900k P cores are binned and that there is any difference in P core performance between the 13900k and 13700k when set to the same settings.

Edit: I will say the 36 MB of LL cache vs 30 MB will make a difference, but it's minor. If you really want to fit small workloads in cache then X3D really is the only game in town.

πŸ‘οΈŽ︎ 14 πŸ‘€οΈŽ︎ u/willis936 πŸ“…οΈŽ︎ Nov 24 2022 πŸ—«︎ replies

Enabling Eco mode and then calling the 7950x the efficiency winner seems weird to me. Most buyers aren't going to do that, they are going to set XMP (if that) and call it a day. And you can have a similar big efficiency gains on Intel by putting a power limit number like 65w in, if someone is able enable Eco mode they can power limit Intel too.

To be clear I'm not saying the 13900k or whatever at 65w is as efficient as a 7950x at Eco mode.

I just don't think this is how this category should work. The 5950x was great because you could just use it stock and have great MT efficiency, though idle and ST efficiency was poor, worse than Alder Lake. The best efficiency category should be at stock, and comprise of MT, ST, and idle, because realistically most of GN's viewers aren't chugging through renders, encodes, code compiles all day, 100% utilization efficiency is probably the least useful power metric for average consumers.

I'd rather see the 5950x get the crown again, than the 7950x with asterisks.

πŸ‘οΈŽ︎ 27 πŸ‘€οΈŽ︎ u/Put_It_All_On_Blck πŸ“…οΈŽ︎ Nov 24 2022 πŸ—«︎ replies

I'd argue the Core i9-13900K deserves another award. It is the best all-rounder CPU available if its price isn't a problem.

πŸ‘οΈŽ︎ 11 πŸ‘€οΈŽ︎ u/WHY_DO_I_SHOUT πŸ“…οΈŽ︎ Nov 24 2022 πŸ—«︎ replies

One thing these don’t cover is upgrading. I’m on a good AM4 (Crosshair VIII Hero) and have decent RAM (3600/C14 b-die) on a 5600x/5800x. For me moving to Raptor Lake or upgrading to AMD 5 is a TERRIBLE value right now. The difference in gaming performance is minimal and not worth the $850-$1200 for a new MoBo, DDR5 and CPU vs just buying a 5800X3D (paid $330 week ago) in my situation. If i cheap out on MoBo and DDR 5 the gaming performance become irrelevant.

πŸ‘οΈŽ︎ 2 πŸ‘€οΈŽ︎ u/TGhost21 πŸ“…οΈŽ︎ Nov 24 2022 πŸ—«︎ replies
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[Music] it's been a really exciting year of Intel and am AMD battles and now we're doing a recap of all the CPUs we've tested there wasn't one in the Box don't worry for the past year to just look at how it's got and which ones are the best to buy for different scenarios like gaming best budget CPU best really cheap CPU while still being usable that is and a couple of other aspects like most efficient so this is going to be a good one all the links to the CPUs are in the description below it's meant to serve as a quick access guide to make it easy for you to pull the trigger on something so you don't have to dig through a dozen of our reviews from just the past year alone to make your decision on what to buy we'll also be looking at some of these still in the market but technically old CPUs like ryzen 5000 and Intel 12 000 because some of those are really good deals right now and we'll get to see who wins the GN award Crystal for best overall let's get started we brought you this video 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this video we're gonna be looking at a lot of CPUs we'll will be looking at the 12 000 series The 5000 series 7000 series AMD CPUs uh 13 000 series Intel CPUs because there's a lot to talk about and each of them has sort of a different place it can be useful to set expectations for this video and these best of roundups we make every year we try to make them as accessible as possible so people who have been sort of out of the industry for say three years while they've been running their system they can come back in watch one of these videos and just instantly get caught back up to speed and figure out what to buy so for these we don't pack them full of as many charts as we normally do if you want all of that or if you see a CPU in this list that really interests you you can get all of the pros and cons to it by checking out the review we did of that CPU and we'll link each of those in the description below alongside the links to the CPUs on Amazon or wherever they are that we find them so for more depth just click on one of the links to one of our reviews previously otherwise this will get you the CPUs you can still buy today at least as I'm filming and and help you figure out which ones to choose now if you have been out of PC Building for a little while now is a fantastic time to build because the AMD ryzen 7000 series CPU is just launched Intel's 13 000 series CPUs also just launched recently there's new gpus there's a lot going on and plenty of options on the market including older stuff that's getting purged at lower prices as we finish the main part of the script that you're about to watch and started working on producing the video AMD instituted a temporary price drop on its ryzen 7000 series CPUs that's Meant To Be A Black Friday special type of thing that will influence some of the stuff we're saying in here um because the prices are moving around a little bit right now so everything we said in the video you're about to watch is based on the normal prices that they've been since they launched however for the next we don't know how long maybe week maybe a couple weeks it looks like AMD has dropped some things like the 7600x as far down as 250 bucks which makes them instantly more interesting so we'll talk a little bit about that and how it's impacted with things and the conclusion at the end but let's get to the core part of this and talk about some of the performance numbers overall our first award for the year goes to best overall CPU we're giving this to the Intel Core i5 13600k best overall isn't just about being straight up the best that end up being basically the new category for most expensive CPU instead best overall has to be not only good but good at the price point and it also has to be good at more than just one thing it's a combination of value gaming performance production performance and power efficiency and everything else like thermal management the Intel i5 13600k ends up being a strong balance of all of those things its relative power efficiency is one of them that it's good at especially compared to the I9 3900k it's also competitive in a wide variety of games and everyday applications for gaming the 13 600k just as an example gets 87 percent of the performance of a 3900k in CS go while being also about 50 percent of the price of the 3900k in other games we see similar scaling you get most of the performance of a 660 dollar 3900k except for 300 bucks not to mention the lower cooler cost requirement for a 13600k the lower end motherboard you could get away with all of these things that add up and further reduce the barrier to entry in non-gaming applications like say blender Cycles rendering on the CPU the 13600k is competitive with last generation's i7 12700k it punches above its price class when compared to last year helping build on its positioning as a well-rounded CPU at a good price AMD won this category for four years running with the AMD R5 CPUs starting with the R5 1600 originally last year it lost this category to the Intel i512 of 600k Intel has managed to hold on for another year here giving AMD and its R5 7600x something to think about namely the price the 7600x could have taken the spot but it's at least 50 too expensive for what it accomplishes when compared to the competition after seeing just how many last gen CPUs are still available today and given the age and prevalence of the am4 platform we added a new category for this year and we took one of the old ones out this one is best upgrade value this is for users who might be trying to bring an older platform forward for this the AMD r750 700x wins we looked into Intel but the limitation to a typical life cycle of just two CPU Generations knocked it out of the running pretty fast the AMD R7 5700x is currently just under 200 on Amazon at least when we wrote this the 5800 axis 235 dollars but the 5700x is most of what the 5800x is it's just cheaper I review the the 5700x earlier this year was published stating that much where we said it's what the 5800x should have been at 200 this undercuts the cheapest rise in 7000 CPU by a hundred bucks while also offering a higher core account it's useful in some non-gaming applications mostly but obviously core count isn't everything one of the advantages though is it also gives the owners of older AMD platforms which is most owners of AMD platforms right now a clear and affordable upgrade pathway without an assessment hitting too much reinvestment into the now abandoned day M4 in our original review of the 5700x we published some of the charts you're seeing now in gaming it was often within an unnoticeable range of the 5800x we saw gaps no greater than a few FPS on average in most charts it outperforms the budget King the I3 1200f by enough to make the 5700x worth considering and in some games like Rainbow Six Siege it even kept up with the 12900k just depending on the game while the 5700x is on a platform that won't get further updates we think it makes a great case for an upgrade you won't need a new motherboard you won't need new Ram you can probably even keep the cooler this is one of the cheapest ways to get a PC upgrade project on a M4 while still getting a meaningful uplift if you're on something like ryzen 1000 2000 or 3000 not to mention the reduction in unnecessary E-Waste since you can reuse the whole computer the honorable mention here is the AMD ryzen 7 5800x3d this has become rarer which is the only reason it's not the primary recommendation here because it is harder to find now it's still sometimes available though at the time of writing we found a couple online new in box for 360 dollars it's not bad we especially liked it at the 330 to 340 price point held up until recently but because it remains one of the best gaming CPUs and even outperforms ryzen 7000 series in most games it has become harder to find unexpectedly the neck next award is for the most efficient CPU and we're giving this one to the 7950x in ego mode the AMD R9 7950x isn't particularly efficient out of the box it made us truly appreciate the AMD R9 5950x which was Far and Away the most efficient out of box CPU we've ever reviewed but there's a mode in BIOS called eco mode and it's easy you can just toggle it with a switch to enable it we talked about how it works in our eco mode benchmarks that we've linked below if you're curious in the Eco Mode benchmarks we ran the 750x launched itself ahead of the 5950x for efficiency the 65 watt eco mode wasn't worth it overall for the performance trade-off we think anyway but the 105 watt Mode still significantly outperformed to the Baseline efficiency of the 7950x stock while maintaining nearly all of the performance especially in gaming gaming doesn't load the cores as hard so there's not that much sacrifice even in production benchmarks where it was all core we saw the vast majority of performance sustain end in 105 watt eco mode although it normally feels bad to intentionally slow down a product out of the box in the case of the 7950x you're really not losing that much speed Andy pushed it to its absolute limit to try and get that last one to two percent it's kind of like opposite overclocking it used to be that it was your job to get the last one to two percent but here they were doing it to try and outrank Intel and sort of a last-ditch attempt in some cases we saw larger trade-offs like six to nine percent and really heavily thread bound workloads but those were relegated to those production benchmarks unfortunately this also pushes it past the machine returns with the way it was running out of the box on the efficiency curve and just results in unnecessary power consumption and heat 105 watt eco mode should be seriously considered by anyone using the CPU the only time you should completely ignore it is if you need absolutely every ounce of speed out of the CPU for example if you're running some sort of render operation where you're more limited by processing speed than you are by human speed that's often the case for us when we really need to get a video out fast on some kind of news so we wouldn't trade off there but it just depends on your use case AMD did well on efficiency with eco mode and we'd like to see a tune to 7950x one day maybe something like a 7950e that ships with a lower TDP by default watch our previous eco mode test to learn more about this feature next up is the award for best gaming CPU this one goes to the Intel I9 3900k and it's a simple category we're only considering the literal best ignoring price and value entirely and also it does have to be available so for this one the frame snobs in the audience will be happy that'd be the people who aren't willing to give up even say five FPS out of 600 because the 3900k does allow you to get pretty much everything that you can this one is numbers based let's look at some quick charts in Final Fantasy 14 the 3900k held a strong lead over the best overall winner the 13 in 600k at 14 ahead now that's for over double the money but if you're the type who wants just the best this would technically be it 635 FPS average wouldn't be anything to really complain about here it's only five percent uh ahead of the 13600k due to hitting a GP bottleneck but if you were to run say a 490 or similar the scaling room will increase in cyberpunk we did use a 4090 for testing the 3900k ran at 263 FPS average leading the 13 600k by nine percent it also led the 750x by 15 CS go that's different though it was the only game we tested where tactically the 39 hurricane didn't Chart top and the 7950x did instead if you're looking for the overall best gaming CPU the 3900k is it this year it's also a good overclocker for anyone interested in competitive OC or just pulling even more performance out of the top end CPU but you are going to need really high-end cooling if you start overclocking it you're more likely to be unlocked by the GPU than anything else with this CPU so it'd be worth considering a 40 90. the next award is for the best budget CPU of 2022 this one goes to the Intel I3 12100f although it's technically one generation old until Intel refreshes with the say 13-100 the 1200 half remains a budget Champion for the amount of performance at the cost the CPU is a hundred dollars right now an alternative might be the older 10 100 f for 10 105 F both of which are about 70 to 80 bucks today but the 100 1200f is a little faster and newer and for buyers not on the absolute strictest budget we think it's generally worth it the 1200f is a four core part with eight total threats all the cores on the CPU are performance course so it runs zero of the new efficient course frequencies have it at 3.3 gigahertz base and a very simple 4.3 gigahertz boost without any secondary boosting Technologies this is a straightforward CPU and how it operates power consumption is also low enough that a stock or a free cooler would be enough to keep it under control helping reduce the entry cost to your system the 1200f runs on ddr4 ddr5 also and previously we ran D4 versus D5 tests on the 12900k and we found a few differences at the time for the 1200f this would be even truer it's just not high-end enough to extract the value out of ddr5 you can just go with ddr4 for this one and save some money gaming performance allows the 1200 app to get good enough frame rate that it'll last for several years without pulling you into unplayable territory for most games it's possible that some extremely thread bound games challenge it at some point or certainly time based processing like AI turns in some games but for the stuff we test it's more than good enough we're at over 100 FPS average in a lot of scenarios and while that doesn't come close to what higher end options produce relatively speaking in an absolute sense we have to keep perspective that most gaming experiences feel pretty good even at 60fps that's especially true if you're trying to spend a hundred dollars on a CPU that gets double that frame rate anyway this category is your best high-end desktop CPU unfortunately it's no contest there's no winner here and wow it has been fun and on AMD decided not to fight in this Arena anymore you can buy a 7950x for an I9 3900k yes but you're not getting the pcie lane count benefit or the massive I O benefit or things like dual 10 gigabit Knicks that would be offered by an Intel 10980xe type replacement CPU or an AMD threader for CPU even though the 7950x and the 1300k are high-end and we use these types of CPUs in our own workstations now they're lacking in other areas that make hedt CPUs excited technically AMD has threaded for pro CPUs available and they did come out this year but they haven't been updated for a while now they originally launched only for OEM systems and we're also relegated to the higher end eight Channel version of that CPU without a true threader for non-pro successor this category has shifted into a higher still price bracket that's using features that most people don't need to pump the price even higher still for something with just a high Lane count multiple of IO we need a zen4 threader for non-pro CPU or maybe Intel can return with x799 or something if you really need a high thread count you could explore the threader for Pro 5975x or its similar CPUs but we already know there are Zen 4 threaded for CPUs at least non-pro as we know it now on the horizon so it'd feel kind of bad to invest the significant amount of money with the similarly expensive higher performing option in theory just around the corner finally on the good and cheap side of things we're looking at the cheapest CPU that can still make sense this one goes to the aforementioned Intel I3 10100f and 10105f CPUs typically we've given this to Pentium class or R3 CPUs but options there are limited today the pentiums suck and they're way too expensive they actually cost more than these and the r3s in this price class have evaporated the 10100f and 10105f are similar in price right now we checked a few places they seem to to be at the lowest down at 70 bucks the highest at 80. for specs they're both four core and eight thread CPUs and from the days before P core and e-core delineations which is one type of core frequency is 100 megahertz faster on the 10105f which is worth it if they're the same or similar in price the F designation just means no integrated graphics processor which helps bring the cost down and you can spend that savings on a real GPU anyway if you needed an igp for gaming and you wanted to skip the dedicated GPU go in with a higher end CPU would make more sense in most cases because included the igps that integrate graphics on these 10 10x processors is just bad we recently Revisited the Intel I3 10100f in our benchmarks showing that the CPU now 70-ish dollars is still usable if you're seriously constrained on cash this will get you into something that's gameable at least we don't think the CPU will last particularly long with more demanding games long term but depending on your financial situation it still might make more sense to just grab this now and work with it for a few years upgrade options will be limited because you'll probably want to buy a cheaper motherboard to go with this doesn't make sense to buy a really nice board for this but there are plenty of used 10 series CPUs that could potentially offer a step up for example maybe in two years you can still use this system but you put an i5 in it from eBay or something these CPUs being 70 to 75 dollars it's about as good as it gets below 100 bucks right now while not sacrificing too much in the way of playability for games the biggest disappointment is last it's sort of like a a best of award except not for a good thing we always have one of these to remind us of what else came out this year and genuinely we totally forgotten about the AMD R5 4500 until working on this video the r54500 came out in April of 2022 and it actually despite public opinion wasn't an April Fool's joke our title for the video was that quote AMD speedrun's destruction of Goodwill we had this to say about the R5 4500 in that video so to catch you up on the 4500 and why it is an utter waste of your time and the world's resources uh the water for example that was used for purifying the Wafers that created the 4500 probably would have been better in just about anything else like a toilet for example more useful there meaner than I remember but uh I still think it's deserved for AMD here the CPU launched at 130 which had it within ten dollars of the I3 1200f at the time and insultingly expensive compared to the rest of amd's lineup this CPU could have made sense at 80 bucks but at 130 without an igp it just wasn't anywhere close to where it needed to be and it was an insult that we didn't expect from AMD okay so here's the fresh news that I just got we we filmed the whole thing you just watched and then filmed this intro on outro for it which we do that to allow for news changes like this and what we just got is a little bit of news about the new prices Verizon 7000 for Black Friday specials they should probably stay at these prices if you haven't paid attention in the last few months the biggest criticism of against the 7000 series is that it was far too expensive to really be competitive but it came out before Intel's 13 000 Series so they were able to get away with it for a little while so the prices for at least now and hopefully they stay bring them the R7 7700x from 400 to 350 instantly more interesting brings the R9 7900x down to 474 from 550 that's a big drop 75 bucks the R9 7950x from 700 to 575 and then the R5 7600x from 300 to 250 and in this very video we just talked about how the Sony 600x specifically was about 50 bucks too high so what does that mean how does that impact things well if these prices are still true when you are shopping and watching this video here's what we want you to know for the 7600x if the 13600k is still at three hundred dollars we think that it changes the 7600x from being completely uninterest in as a comparison at that price point where you should be basically only be buying the 13600k to bringing it back into the running where 13600k still has a lead in a lot of scenarios not all of them but it's enough to still consider it it's just that the 50 bucks becomes pretty appealing if you can maybe put that towards a GPU or something instead now the biggest difference here with the 7600x specifically its weakness is that the entry level platform costs so motherboard uh specifically sort of ram but they if you're doing ddr5 they both have that cost motherboard though Intel has a little bit of an advantage there where you get a cheaper board so that one's kind of wishy-washy we can't we're not going to firmly commit to one there it's they're both pretty good the 13600k we still kind of like at 300. as for the 7700x we liked that one more than we've typically liked the r7s at launch pricing so the fact that it's dropped up to 50 bucks it makes it compelling versus a 13 700k but we still think the 7600x is the weakest argument the price drop helps certainly but it's still just there's not really a lot in that budget here right now unless you really drop hard and it doesn't fully satisfy the the need for something in that 200-ish range so it's getting closer that's the kind of commentary off the cuff of what just changed as we were setting up to film and hopefully that helps but I understand is those prices won't be permanent probably they're going to end up being permanent in some capacity maybe not quite as steep of a drop long term but any of these feeling pressure from Intel right now so that's it for this one thanks for watching as always subscribe for more go to store.gamersaccess.net and use code thanks Steve because thank you for supporting us for this past year and uh and into next year and hopefully we can keep using the Intel memes into 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