[2.7] Predicting the Harbingers - A Genshin Impact Theory

i cannot stand the fact that i don't know what these numbers are for like they're never really addressed directly in game but the way characters talk about these numbers you kind of get the impression that they're supposed to mean something but mean what exactly order of recruitment strength political hierarchy the truth is no one knows but we can wildly speculate and speculate i shall because in this video i am going to make a case for what i think these numbers are for guess at which number belongs to which harbinger and i will also be predicting their constellation for funsies so if you've ever wondered what the harbinger numbers are for or you're curious about what some of the future harbingers might be like then stick around i have a rather unconventional theory to share but before we dive in i'd like to take a moment to thank the sponsor of this video opera dx opera gx is more than just a browser for gamers it is a browser of convenience my favorite feature by far is the sidebar 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this at a glance there is no apparent discernible pattern here the only thing that stands out immediately is the fact that pierrot is number one and he was the first of the fatoui harbingers while tartalia was the last harbinger and numbered 11. this sets up a fairly compelling case for the harbinger numbers to represent their order of recruitment but there's a catch if the harbingers are numbered by the order of their recruitment then everyone recruited before senora should be around 500 years old since she was recruited basically on her deathbed 500 years ago making her somewhere around 520-ish years old by that logic only harbingers recruited after senora would theoretically be younger than 500 years however scaramouche is anywhere from 500 to 450 years old and we know that he wandered inazuma for quote countless years according to the surpassing cup before he was picked up by the patui meaning his recruitment should have taken place years after senora's if she was in fact recruited on her deathbed it's not the strongest case against it but it's just enough of a case to cast some doubt on the idea of ordering by recruitment so maybe that's not what the numbers represent so okay well what about combat strength well i don't really think this works either harbingers like pantalone who seem to be only hyper focused on economic policy and other brainy non-physical power level sorts of things don't have any evidence for having combat strength considerable enough to outgun even tartalia who has the lowest supposed rank at number 11. and we could try to debate how strong senora is versus tartalia since we fought both of them to get a feeling on things but that's honestly incredibly subjective from a lower perspective so let's just scrap the idea entirely there are just too many unknown variables to make any real substantial claims that leaves us with numbering by hierarchy which again seems possible at first glance but it kind of falls apart when you remember that the harbingers don't tend to work together or pull rank or talk about reporting to other harbingers besides piero and he doesn't count because he's basically the head of the whole operation so it's probably not that at least not entirely i i don't think we can prove that which leaves us in a pretty awkward position the current situation is basically numbering by order of recruitment seems unlikely numbering by power level is impossible to prove and numbering by hierarchy seems only vaguely feasible since it can't really be disproven but what if i told you there was another option what if the harbingers are numbered by their role let me explain we know that the harbingers follow their given roles and code names which are based on the comedia dellarte style of theater piero is also casting the harbingers in the role that suits them the most for the roles that he has available just like a casting director does for a play pierrot needs 10 actors including himself and he's assigned numbers to each role marking their importance to the overall play that makes sense right it's a little bit more feasible one might be more important than two two more important than three and so on until you reach the most inconsequential role of number 11. you don't need to cast the rules in order and your roll cast and your importance to the play doesn't necessarily give you any more or less sway or mean that you are more or less powerful than any other character in the play right okay so it's feasible but can i prove it well no i i can't but i think i can prove something just as important which may support this idea of numbering based on role so bear with me while the comedia does have a type of hierarchical structure to the characters within their plays they're never deliberately numbered so that's a dead end however my buddy schwann introduced me to a concept known as the theatrum mundi which is a concept that suggests that the world itself is nothing but a stage and that the people within it are simply actors playing their assigned parts this concept was quite popular in ancient greece and had a strong influence on christianity and christian philosophy later on so since gemshin has heavy gnostic ties and narcissism is both greek and christian and its roots i wondered if i could tie all of this together with something like i don't know biblical numerology and it turns out i can do that actually biblical numerology actually fits harbingers extremely well let me show you what i mean by using the harbingers we already know some things about as some examples starting with number one which is obviously piero the joker the jester the starter of all things fatoui and harbinger biblical numerology likens the number one to the concepts of unity beginnings and the first born huh first of firstborn yeah yeah yeah pierrot was the first of the harbingers and the one to start it all he is essentially the first born harbinger and since he's also called the jester he should have the jester mask as his constellation i'd give you more but we don't actually know a whole lot more about pirro right now so that's gonna have to do for now what that's too easy okay well let's move on to the number six scaramouche the number six in biblical numerology represents human weakness temptation disbelief doubt and errors this is absolutely perfect for scaramouche since his creator a thought him to be too weak and fragile to hold the gnosis he was built for and then thought him to be a mistake an error if you will later in unreconciled stars he started to doubt whether the sky was real and later yaimiko tempted him away from killing the traveler by offering him the gnosis since the gnosis represents his heart and scaramouche is a puppet his constellation should be this little doll holding a heart it even has the same haircut that he does how fitting what too much of a stretch okay then how about number eight for la senora number eight represents hope self-sacrifice symbolic death and resurrection back when she went by the name of rosaline she had hope that her love rostem would return to her but when she didn't she sacrificed her mortal flesh and was reborn as the crimson witch of flames in order to destroy the monsters of the cataclysm that is an absolute perfect fit just try and refute that one but what you can't refute is that her constellation is the moth because it's confirmed in game when we fight her for the first time as the crimson witch of embers so there's that then there's a number 11 for tartalia number 11 stands for chaos faith and responsibility which i know sounds contradictory at first blush but honestly this really suits him tartalia fell into the abyss into a chaotic space and came back an entirely different person that new person that he became had a lust for combat and the chaos of the battlefield he also puts all of his faith in the saritza and his first character story actually does describe him as covertly responsible which is unexpected but hey it's fitting and it works and we don't really have to debate his constellation at all because he it's the narwhal it's just it's his constellation we know that i i don't have anything else to add here now you'll notice that i skipped two harbingers i skipped number five which is puccinella and number nine which is pantalone that's because we haven't actually met these two in-game and so what we know of them is a little bit more sparse so i'll address them now because they still fit but my logic is a little bit weaker for obvious reasons we just have less information so let's start with the number five puccinella we might not know a whole lot about him but we do know that the number five in biblical numerology is associated with grace favor towards the people and relationships with god and we know some of the things he's done off camera like when he struck a deal with the leeway chasing and sent the ninth company of the fatoui into the chasm death supposedly to help protect liwa even though the specifics of this are really unclear he also was the one to recruit tartalia and in the travail trailer he's the one seen seated on what looks to be a throne now in my opinion because remember i have to speculate a little bit here his role is most likely that of governance and diplomacy making him the type of regent or intermediary for the saritsa herself this also fits with his dellarte counterparts description as a public servant everything about him just screams politician or government worker so favor towards the people and relationships with god yeah i mean that seems like it fits as for his constellation i'm pretty sure it's this other mask here because his title is the rooster and uh this mask has a beak yep yep yep yep that's all i got that's all i got yep it's just as simple as that sometimes moving right along to pantalone who's the ninth harbinger the number nine represents a divine plan finality and gifts which if i stretch it a little bit could be interpreted as prosperity or something like it if you didn't know pantalone runs economic matters and basically anything to do with money his camera counterpart is exactly the same and even his other name regrotter means a person who buys goods at a low price and sells at a high price like a middleman or a stock broker in his pale flame piece the moment of cessation it says that quote money is the lifeblood of the world and the pathways along which it flows are the world's arteries then the center of the world is a heart made of gold and to that pantalone says in reference to mora specifically we shall by whatever means necessary become the heart that pumps money around the world and when the moment comes that heart shall cease beating by our will alone what's neat is that these lines perfectly parallel the lines that will be said by morax at some point according to the topaz gemstone because all of the gemstones have lines that the archons say in game so far venti and a have said these lines but not morax so that's still to come anyway these lines are the currencies that flow through this land are my flesh and blood for thus did i become the guarantor of the people's hard work wisdom and future this is the trust i have placed in them betray it and you taint my blood my friend schwann pointed out that this parallel between pandalone and morax suggests that pantalone has the intention to override any divine plan morax may have had for maura bringing that to an end as referenced by the cessation of the beating heart which he can then offer as a gift to the saritza's cause pantalone was also bitter about never being granted a vision when he was younger which we could also consider as part of a greater divine plan that he may want to rebel against so it still kinda works as for pandelone's constellation i believe it's this handprint with the swirl on the palm purely because of the saying money greases the palm which implies underhanded fiscal tactics like bribery and extortion that feels appropriate here so what do you think are you convinced about the biblical numerology references well good because we still have a bunch more harbingers to go through and this is where the predictions start let's start the predictions with the number two now in biblical numerology the number two is the number of union duality integrity and marriage there are two ways to go with this either you could suggest that this harbinger is actually two harbingers or that this harbinger comes in a pair in other words they're married or at least represent that ideal as it turns out we have a harbinger that perfectly fits this requirement based on their comedia dellarte counterpart that harbinger is our lachino carlaccino who is also known as harlequin is very well known for being the love interest of columbina and while she's often in an established relationship with pierrot in the plays she usually leaves him for another man often are lachino in addition to this our latino is often portrayed as competing with piero in all aspects which i think makes him an excellent candidate for number two as for his constellation i think he's this monstrous clawed hand with the flame the reason uh process of elimination no seriously i'm confident about literally every other constellation except for this one so our lachino gets the claws by default which brings us to the number three the number of completion and sins relating to love which should sound pretty familiar because we just talked about our latino and his relationship with a comedian character named columbina columbina is basically a woman cheating on her husband because she fell in love with somebody else that sounds like a sin in love to me and yes i know that columbina hasn't been mentioned anywhere in the game yet but columba means dove and one of the constellations on the harbinger wheel is a crying dove shaped like a heart that sounds like a dead ringer for columbina if that doesn't end up being her i'd i'll eat my hat so number three was pretty easy but numbers 4 and 7 are a little tricky because both of them have very similar meanings so i have to recognize that these harbingers could be interchangeable in number but not in constellation i'm very confident on that one now both numbers four and seven represent creation but in slightly different ways the number four is creation but not necessarily a perfect creation while number seven is also creation but also completion and perfection there are two harbingers who fit the concept of creation namely detoure and syndrone i think dettore is number four here's why dettore is basically obsessed with the concept of human evolution or rather human enhancement especially through the use of machines he studies ruin guards and even turned a subordinate crop into a robot in fact i have a sneaking suspicion that he might even have experimented on himself a fair bit considering there's nothing particularly extraordinary about dettore otherwise it would be weird for him to be around 500 years old or even half that if you know he was just a normal person my guess is that he could have had a lack of cooperative test subjects and resorted to working on himself or just wanted to extend his own lifespan and started slowly replacing all of his body parts with machine parts that is also possible and it would also explain why his mask completely blocks off his nose and half of his mouth maybe he doesn't actually need to breathe ah but anyway i think his pursuit of human enhancement without the need for perfection makes him perfect for the number four he's more interested in the process rather than the end goal so he probably doesn't know what perfection of his enhancements would even look like and that's why four over seven as for his constellation i think this symbol suits him best this is the symbol for heresy which sounds pretty religious and all but it's actually used quite often in scientific communities to describe thoughts and methodologies that are at odds with what's generally accepted seeing as dettori's title is the professor and that his artifact set describes his ideas as being outlandish and dangerous and not generally accepted i think he suits the title of scientific heretic very well also heresys is the name of an underground facility that belongs to the that de torre seems to use for his own purposes in the gentian comic and yeah heresy's latin for heresy so this is very likely to tori's lab which brings us to the other creator sandrone at number seven sandrone was initially a character from an italian puppet theater which was later adopted into the commedia dellarte which is fitting because as a harbinger his title is the puppet if you're wondering why i'm associating a puppet with the number 7 which relates to creation perfection and completion it's actually because he's a puppet a puppet can be made however one wants they can be molded and shaped into something eternally beautiful and unaging they can be complete and perfect and since i have no more information on sandrone from in game that's kind of the extent of my speculation on him oh except that it's possible he may have made himself a puppet wife that has no agency of her own and that's based on some things that happen in the comedia around him so i i don't think i need to convince you of this constellation right it's the marionette for sure absolutely so that leaves us with the final unclaimed number that definitely belongs to capitano the number 10. the number 10 represents law responsibility and order which perfectly suits the commedia version of capitano comedia's capitano was usually a military man who liked to boast about his accomplishments and he was usually hired for a task by pantalone capitano is generally all talk no action though which is why it would make sense if his role is less important than the other numbers barring number 11. maybe he's the leader of the fatoui grunts barking out orders and doing none of the work himself now there's only one constellation left and that's the three nails again my friend schwann came through and helped rationalize this one for me she pointed out that while three crossed nails can sometimes be used to talk about the crucifixion of christ they are actually more likely to be a symbol of the passion itself as used in the passion of the christ etymologically speaking fashion originally meant physical suffering and while i'm not completely sold on the idea i could liken physical suffering to active torture which seems like something a soldier could be in charge of or in some cases the recipient of i can think of at least a couple of military men soldiers and generals that received this type of punishment so i guess i'm actually feeling pretty confident about calling this capitano's constellation so this is the final lineup that we're left with in order we have number one piero as the crying mask number two are lacino as the hand with the flame number three columbine as the crying dove number four ill detore as the heresy symbol number five puccinella as the plague doctor mask number six scaramouche is the doll with a heart number seven sandrone as the marionette number eight la senora as the moth number nine pantalone as the hand with the spiral in the middle of it and number ten capitano with the nails and finally number 11 tartalia as the narwhal now sumaru's just around the corner and i'm sure we're gonna get some more information on harbingers soon and i'm really eager to see how well these predictions hold up but until then what do you guys think is there anything here that you change anything to add well feel free to share with the class in the meantime i just want to thank everyone for watching this video and i will catch you guys in the next one farewell my little chaos nuggets may you submerge yourself in the barbecue sauce of knowledge [Music] [Applause] [Music] you

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Length: 23min 0sec (1380 seconds)

Published: Fri Jun 24 2022