What Was The Abyss Sibling's Journey? [Genshin Impact Theory]

with the heavy lore releases of ann kanemia we get more and more pieces of the puzzle and regards against impact's timeline and world building but even with this copious amount of lore two characters still remain an utmost mystery in the grand scheme of the plot so today i want to discuss the first half of the travelers and their journey across tevat specifically lumeen's journey before and after the cataclysm 500 years ago disclaimer this is just a compilation of personal theories and speculations i just wanted to talk about this and create a pseudo timeline because encounter me allure has opened up a lot of potential in taiwan's world building also again i'll be referring to lameen as my best sibling let's begin when aether and lamine left their homeland it was on the brink of destruction in that world humankind was trying to preserve a doomed world that was fated to be destroyed and that world was lumin and aether's only home this world was at the brink of extinction aether and lameen were both told to bear a golden heart when traveling which reflects well in how they talk to others both as the abyss sibling and as the traveler people naturally gravitate towards aether's personality as being friendly and helpful and i don't doubt lamine also went through the same when she was still new to devat aether and lameen landed to devad as stars lumine wakes up and befriends the people of kanriya and becomes an honorary guest much like aether's connections to monstat there have been no concrete evidence as to where the traveler first dropped some people were speculating that it's starfell valley due to its history and proximity to monstat but your gas is as good as mine but what i do speculate is that le min's connections are strongest in conrea as opposed to other nations panria is an underground civilization by this time presumably in the dark sea as well like bakiya koku it's less likely that luminene aether dropped headfirst into the civilization as opposed to dropping in the surface world first so they may have first dropped in monstad which ties in with the starfell lake lore a poem says that a star once fell to the earth forming this lake but other tales say that even the stars that shine as bright as the animal arkhan's eyes will fall into this lake there have been hints that conriya has the closest ties with monstat specifically that kaya was left behind by his father in monstat and that most of the characters that we know that have khan marie and tyus are from the monstead category geographically we also have the spiral abyss in one set which is a direct portal and with one being in coastal region it can have connections to the dark sea much like inazuma and byakuyakuku but regardless of where they dropped first lumin eventually goes to conriya lumin assumes the role of the iron girl and befriends their people lumen and aether were told to enter the world with kindness in their hearts and at this time lumine is traveling alone without her brother since aether is still in the rock i actually think that lameen's past benevolence to kanria reflects a lot in her present status as a princess the abyss order highly respects her and even dean sleeve says that she's a dear companion of his before they're falling out i don't think lameen rules through fear when speaking through the abyss order simply because one of the reasons she hated dean's leaf was because he failed to protect his people people that lumeen would have known before the cataclysm and people that she would have considered family at the time lumine having close ties to the eclipse dynasty itself may have contributed to her sudden appearance as the princess according to kaia and venti the princess title wasn't one they were familiar with so it's possible that lemine went so far into hiding or that her promotion was recent another reason i believe lumeen has personal connections with the dead civilization is because of her skill set we see that she can control or manipulate the ruined guards to be her personal form of transportation he's also personally capable of traveling to the abyss through the portal something that aether can't do because he phased through upon contact also something i want to point out is that if lumeen had extensive knowledge about kanriya i think should be acquainted at the very least with ryan daughter and pierrot assuming that she is konryan's iron girl libyan's presence in kanriya would be at the same caliber as aethers in devot so it's possible she'll immediately be known for health landless origins the eclipse dynasty could have been interested in her and helped her as a compensation for her services or may have also been using her for their overall plans of conquering tevat we wouldn't know but lumine's existence would have caught the eye of rhein daughter much like albedo found interest in aether for his knowledge of other distant worlds i don't think they'd be at the same friendship as the other two given ryan daughter's personality but since this is before the cataclysm we can't be quite sure i also believed that lameen had close intelligence with konrian's inner workings before the cataclysm like the pursuit of the book before the sun and moon and the mass conquering of tevat will she have direct control in the past no it might just be like how aether has close connections to important figureheads in daybot like the leo achieving or the knights of evonius so now that brings me to the important diversions in this timeline we know that you find the truth of the world at the end of her journey but that doesn't immediately mean she finds the cataclysm it is possible she journeyed with dean sleeve before the cataclysm happened and that dainsley was her personal bodyguard but that has a lot of connotations in the plot for example that's to assume lumine didn't lose her powers because if she did and she didn't journey around taywa after the cataclysm how did she get them back also why would dane be punished for his sins if he didn't have anything to do with kaneria's fault directly in this timeline dean sleep is still known as the twilight sword and would have spent his time helping lumeen on a side note there would be no reason for lamina hate thing sleeve if she knew that he was with her the entire time so i proposed this timeline instead the fall of kanye happens first and lamene finds dean sleep after she wakes up her journey around devote will be the same recovery of power just like aether where she finds the statues of the seven however just like her brother she'd slowly regain memories of the past by exploring taivat this is where she finds encanamia or the other civilizations the more she begins exploring lost history or even meeting the archons adepthai and other mythical creatures the more she finds out about the cataclysm and what truly happened much like aether she uncovers the past of devote in its history with fanas in the four shades her final destination is kanriya and the abyss there she along with dan's sleeve finds out about the history of the cataclysm he finds out about dancing's curse of immortality and her journey ends with a big revelation of her travel companion this is where they part ways in where lemine formally becomes a member of the abyss it's unknown what's the time gap between aether and lamine waking up but we know that it couldn't have been very recent because most npcs don't know about the blonde traveler before ether you'd think lumine would stick out like a sore thumb just like that but let me dissect what i just said first is that lamine witnesses the cataclysm because she's in conrio for the duration of her stay in taiwan i was considering if her exploring devote with dean's leave before the cataclysm could have important implications as opposed to her just staying in conroe to help the people out but lean thief was criticized by lumen for failing to protect the people of congress if lemine knew that danes leaf was journeying with her before the cataclysm itself this could lose a significant meaning also lumine needed to have been in close proximity to aether during this time to wake him up and to even have knowledge that he is not awake in the first place so then we cut to the sustainer of heavenly principles and the imprisonment of the twins with the new and kaname allure it's possible that the sustainers saw the twins as a threat to tsevat overall because they were outlanders as anjo mentioned celestia themselves weren't from tavat natively by extension the twins could have been seen as a threat to celestia's rule because they were also beings from another world in the book known as before the sun and moon there came another throne that descended to the heavens and the primordial one vanus engaged in a war with them whatever the second throne was fighting for we know that their defeat caused the old ancestors to delve back into the ruins this could be mirrored with how the sustainers stopped the twins the mention of arrogation of mankind is a reference to kaneria's history as an ancient civilization and the twins being celestial outlanders from another world would have been seen as a threat to tehvat's heavenly principles simply because they don't exist in celestia's world it's not sure if her stasis was the same as the travelers but we will assume that it is because there's no reason for the unknown god to change her approach so next is that she wakes up somewhere in tavat it's unknown where she'd wake up and how long before she'd meet dean's leaf again there are several hints of lumine's personality as told from dan sleeve's perspective when you meet danes even 1.3 he tells you of old memories that he had with his travel companion we learned that lemion's views and gods are quite passive-aggressive the mean viewed the gods as nothing short of indifferent gods don't really care about those with a vision and those who don't lumine also believed that humanity working together against a greater threat is the key to solving the world's transgressions in her journey with danesleef we know that dane was her primary source of cultural history an example of this was when he told her stories of andreas but it seems that lumen is leading most of the journey as stated by densely that she was the one who brought him to old monstat lumeen's travels would give her a new perspective in the world outside of conrier and would have taught her of the different partings in history the first time that daensief went to old monsta ruins the vollen had yet to fall so it's safe to assume the first time he found the lair was pre-cataclysm but dane sleeve also said that lumen took him to the old monster and the last time there wasn't much of a difference as to present-day storm terrorist lair meaning their journey was somewhat in the recent years after the cataclysm if there hasn't been any massive changes to the location this journey could have also been lamin's way of getting back her powers the statues of the seven still would have been intact but i don't think lameen would actively seek the archons like aether from her perspective assuming that she did spend time in kanriya the gods basically murdered the old civilization yes there were some people that probably deserved it like the higher ups but kanye most likely had civilians and citizens that had nothing to do with this celestia conrad conflict i feel like that's lumine's biggest anger towards celestia and in turn beans leaf she finds out about the truth of the world and how celestia tried to cover their sins she regains all of her powers but she finds the truth of the abyss and what really happened in the past she is angered by dean sleeve's absence or maybe something that he actively did that caused the downfall of kanye itself because i don't think lumen would hate deansley if he simply was unable to save their people i feel like lane sleeve did something much worse than simply being absent and whatever it was we'll also have to find out about it but nevertheless the order of how she travels around taybot is still up to debate starting in one slot like either is a possibility but anything can really happen and yes i'm also implying that the archons have somewhat seen lumen before i don't think it's easy to ignore someone like lemine just because of how different she is they're bound to hear about a person that can control the elements eventually and even more so a person that might know about what they did it's also safe to assume that what the traveler knows now she also knows but lemien's knowledge of tibat seems to be extensive which carries me over to her role as the abyss princess i don't think she created the abyss order according to venti and kaya the surfacing of a princess is recent to them now of course i don't think venti and kaya are all that knowledgeable of the disorder but it's possible another higher entity is controlling the abyss order itself monreal was known to have had an eclipse dynasty and with the naming conventions of princes and prince it's possible that there's a king or queen entirely this is why i said that it's important that lemine has had previous connections to the people of kanriya prior to the fall the members of the abyss order regard her with respect and if there was a higher entity that appointed her as a princess they would have known her previous dedication to kanye to give her an immediately highest status but that's just personal speculation whatever it is lemie's plans are to be carried out we know several endeavors of the abyss order the corruption of the valon the mechanization of this isle the highest of the statue of the seven the act of corruption of other divine entities and the recovery of the book before sun and moon some of these plans are relatively recent for example the mechanization of asylum had to have happened after the leo arkhan quest because asylum is no longer sealed thanks to the fertility breaking the restraints the active corruption of andreas is something we saw in the arkhan quest as well meaning the abyss haven't abandoned their plans of weaponizing divine entities but some of these plans are actually ancient we know that the recovery of the book before sun and moon predated the world quest with enzo conrie itself already tried to steal the book for themselves which led to the betrayal of another biaquilla coco citizen additionally the highest of the statue of the seven is such a distant memory that barely anyone in the church knows about it if lemine has been the one spearheading these operations especially since the abyss mages and answer to her directly that means she's using intel from both the past and the present again she did journey through the world once already and with the surveillance of the abyss order she'd be kept updated with what's happening in tavat it's possible that she also knows the truth about celestia which is why she's actively looking for the book in the arc on quest 1.4 she stated that she wants to tuple the defined thrones in celestia and in the book itself there are mentions of divine thrones descending to this world as for her plans in the future it is possible that the abyssal ally with the fatoui granted the abyss order wouldn't like to fight alongside the cryoharkon especially if she was associated with the cataclysm but with how the sarita also regards celestia it's in their best interests to ally themselves with each other but with all of that it's unknown where her journey would take her lumeen is a character raised and born from destruction from the very beginning the twins had been at war with destiny so only time will tell if ether thus join her eventually in her fight against celestia but yes that's the means journey analyzed and theorized i was considering the alternative timeline where the journey happened before the cataclysm but there were just too many holes on a side note i am hoping for a new archon quest where we will find out more about lumion's past but that's a big stretch given we still need to go back to inazuma to finish the gnosis crisis anyway my name is astor and thank you for chatting with me you

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