Violent J - Steve-O's Wild Ride! Ep #40

hey everybody and welcome to wild ride with stevo on this week's show i admit to being very disrespectful to the guest many years ago his name is violent jay and you might know him from the insane clown posse and i'll tell you what's insane this episode so strap on your seat belts and enjoy ladies and gentlemen violent jay [ __ ] yeah dude all right now brother when's the last time we we saw each other in person like 2004 maybe that's what i was thinking yeah 2004 right i met you at the hotel right i want to say it was in orlando and yeah we were performing at the house with blues and you were there you were there for your own show but we met up at the hotel you came to my show and i was legitimately an absolute [ __ ] uh zero zero question about that and um you know it completely for all these years uh slipped my mind that that's something that it was worth addressing man and so there i didn't do [ __ ] about it and then not too long ago uh i got a couple people send me this video and it's uh it's called violent j talks about his beef with stevo and i knew right away dude i i knew right away and uh you know i i don't know if we need to to probably why don't we uh you know go ahead and and i'll let you have the floor tell my story yeah tell your story a little bit i mean anybody can go uh anybody can go check out that video but if you can give him the gist of it and what year was this i think it was 2004. and i'm scott by the way oh yeah sorry this is my co-host scott ryan what's up dude hey brother up front we got paul briskey what's up man nice to meet you you too bro um yeah it was it was like 2004 um we were um staying at the hotel we're we're just walking down the hallway of the hotel and uh we see stevo walking with another dude but i reckon i see one i said hey man what's up brother and he said what's up and i and i told him who we were and what we were doing in town and everything and um he was mad cool at the beginning you know what i'm saying and um and you told us that um you told us you were you were getting ready to go uh to your show and we didn't have a show that night and and uh we were there like the next night i think we're that we had a day off so we were like hell yeah and you invited us to the show and it was me and my uh friend abk anybody killer and we were like hell yeah so we went first we went back to your hotel room and um we were hanging out and we started talking you were like you were like um man i went to clown college i know all about being a climber and you guys ain't real clowns with man i don't know what the [ __ ] you guys are man but you guys ain't clowns you know and that's not offensive because we're not clowns you know what i mean dude i i do remember that i do remember that and like what a [ __ ] [ __ ] you know no no no that's not offensive i mean you mean dude of being clowns we're our own kind of clowns you know what i mean i i i was absolutely disrespectful and i think that i don't know if i if i made this distinction but uh what what's what's like odd to me is that uh when you put on grease paint it seems like you don't powder the grease paint because grease paint as like the way that i i do it or the you know normal clowns grease paint smears all over the place you know but when you take but we take baby powder we put it in a sock yeah you hit the sock and the baby powder kind of makes a cloud yeah we do that sort of and it locks it locks the grease paint in place to the point where you can like dive into a pool like swim through you know like that shit's locked it seems like you don't powder yours so if anything sometimes we we do sometimes if it's a photo shoot or something we'll we'll put the powder on it to take the glare off it or the or the look of uh sweat or whatever you know right and if anything touches it when it's not powdered it's gonna smear it like crazy like ah yeah and i couldn't yeah and you pointed that out you you pointed that out i know you told me in 2004 right back it's more of an interesting thing and i i just was a [ __ ] [ __ ] and [ __ ] cokehead you know were like doing coke in the room and they were there i'm sure i was you know yeah you were doing something i don't know what it was but it it it wasn't a big deal you know what i mean but um you kept it was it was all cool and everything but you kept slipping in like jabs you know what i mean like like we didn't know if we we didn't know if we were welcome or not because you kept everything you were saying you were slipping jabs in in distance here and there you know what i mean but you wouldn't put them politely you know what i mean you'd be like oh yeah you guys are [ __ ] stupid though the way you're playing your face he's wrong with somebody you had camera guys with you filming everything you know you're busting on us pretty hard with the cameras on us you know what i mean and um it was cool first couple times but it became like a thing you know and then um we ended up going to the show and man i never saw no [ __ ] like that in my life man like what well no here's like he made this point in the video that it was like stevo's got guys hey who wants to see it kicked in the nuts [ __ ] guys are like yeah it could have so [ __ ] i'd get people on stage i kick them in the nuts and nobody kicks me in the nuts i'm just doling out nut kicks and then i'm like these [ __ ] were killing themselves on stage you'd be like all right matt you have the dj up on stage and you're like all right um who wants to get kicked in the balls and everybody be like the whole place is like yeah you know and you bring like uh five guys up on stage and tell them how to spread their legs and they'd be lined up along the line with their legs spread and then you pull a girl up on stage and you say i want you to run up and kick them [ __ ] smacking the ball as hard as you can are you ready and then she'd say yeah you'd say don't don't you know don't delay it and you know you guys want them to kick you hard right and the guys will be like [ __ ] yeah and she would run up and put him in the balls and the dj would play the music you know and the music would just amp everything up and she'd be kicking him in the [ __ ] ball i never saw those [ __ ] like that right and then i got and then i got like who are dude we're gonna have the [ __ ] black eye game you guys come up on stage and and uh when i say go start punching yourself in the face trying to give yourself a black eye or like first one to bleed wins because everybody's thinking killing themselves with the punching in the face though that's what that's the one that you really like would turn themselves into like the [ __ ] elephant man [ __ ] like [ __ ] this one the bleed wins nothing you're right and uh and then you had an after party in in the um you know how the uh house of blues got those sweet sweet-ass dressing rooms big-ass uh dressing right and you had like you had the whole thing turned out it's a big-ass after party everybody was up there and um there was a kid sitting on a counter and uh he looked just like the elephant man bleeding out of five places eyes all swelled up lips [ __ ] cut up and i mean he was [ __ ] up like a train wreck and um he was sitting there drinking a beer and i was like man are you happy are you happy you went up there and he was like best night of my life [ __ ] oh my god dude yeah now the only and and all of that is absolutely [ __ ] accurate and the only thing i can say in my defense about the nut kicking and it's not even a defense is that when i got sober one of the first [ __ ] things i did coming out of rehab was i was like man that was wrong that i traveled all the world the black guy game with the guys punching themselves wasn't very often there was like uh everything was like we didn't do that much but the nut kicking i did that all over the world i did that all over the world and i never let anybody kick me in the nuts and i was like man that [ __ ] was [ __ ] wrong so i went to my buddy johnny knoxville i was like i need i need you to [ __ ] really [ __ ] kick me hard and i was butt naked you know that was like my first like making an amends you know like so i i knew that that was [ __ ] up i knew that was wrong and that was one of the first things i addressed like when i got sober and uh and again i was a complete [ __ ] to you i remember and what was even worse was that when you were at the show like you didn't have your makeup on yeah right and i was like i was like the insane clown posse's over here and [ __ ] make some noise for them they're gonna come out on stage and you were like yo dude we don't [ __ ] come out on stage when we don't have our makeup on like no and i was like so then i start talking about [ __ ] come on these [ __ ] guys are [ __ ] [ __ ] they won't come out man [ __ ] that something like that and i think i if i remember right you gave me like a [ __ ] pretty dope icp jersey that i was wearing i think you know like and i was just a [ __ ] [ __ ] and then anybody killers changed his name to stevo killer at this point dude like what the [ __ ] you know at the time it was exciting because we were seeing something we never saw you know and it's always cool to experience something but there was so many like disses throughout the night that it didn't really honestly i'll be honest man like we've been fans i've been a fan forever you know and and um out of watching all the jackass stuff you were always my favorite one you know what i mean for real you know he's always seen the most charismatic you know and um and so it didn't really sink in until the next day and then days after that when i was telling a story to my friends man yeah we went and hung out with steve oh man he was addicted to us though but it was cool man i mean it was right kind of cool i was i was disrespectful as [ __ ] man and uh i wish i would have thought to reach out to you without all those years going by and then seeing you like uh telling the story on a youtube video and then i thought man i gotta [ __ ] get a hold of this guy you know uh yeah yeah and you know what man i read i read your book i read your book when it came out and and i was like that's the [ __ ] man like i read about everything you went through everything you've gone through how you cleaned yourself up and i've been following you since then and i'm like [ __ ] yeah man that's the [ __ ] man and i see you now and i see who you are now and man it's really the [ __ ] brother it is it is very inspiring and very [ __ ] dope man um i appreciate that so much man any type of ill will that i had from that is long gone it was gone after i read the book honestly because i didn't understand all this i didn't know all that about you you know what i mean and when i read the book i was like damn man in in any ill will i had was long gone after that man and uh it's just it's just the [ __ ] that man to watch you what you doing now and all the things you got going on now and everything man and how you how you're kicking ass man and and it's very inspiring man it's really cool brother i appreciate that i really really truly do and you know i also want to say that when when you told that story on that video that the people were sending me like you told it with like humility like you weren't out to [ __ ] you know like it was it was completely fair the only thing that i took exception to and and and you know i i get it but but you said this guy had kicking people in the balls he was [ __ ] up and he didn't do [ __ ] and uh while i didn't let anybody kick me in the balls i did make sure that i was covered in my own blood every show [ __ ] set myself on fire real good like staple my ball sack to my leg like all that i remember that show we brought a [ __ ] like 12 foot long king cobra and we've released it on the stage there's a little bit more to the show than just [ __ ] up audience members oh man i'm sorry bro i don't expect it she would i don't expect that you would and dude the last [ __ ] that's like saying hey man i'm really sorry but so [ __ ] this what a shitty [ __ ] uh way to approach it and man like all these years gone by and uh it's just this this means a lot man this is this is uh really cool to be able to have this conversation with you and yeah yeah i told that story we had a um we did a uh um uh we've been doing this every other month we've been doing a stream uh a stream thing where we stream live um every three times a week and we do something different every time and that that particular time i told the story was when we were doing um uh i can't remember what it was called it's like campfire stories or something yeah fireside chat kind of deal yeah yeah we had like a bonfire going a little stage setup and um and yeah and so that's what that was and that was just in december last december we i told that story you know yeah but there's more there's more to that story right because then you you saw him again at the rainbow room afternoon then like after a little time went by then you decided you know what next time we see stevo we gotta [ __ ] beat his ass yeah you heard that right they made an actual plan to beat my ass and you know if they did that to me today they would find my ass clean as a whistle because down here in our new warehouse i have outfitted the toilet with my favorite product that i have ever promoted on this podcast it is called hello tushy it's this bidet that you easily set up to your toilet and when you get done taking a heavy dump or any dump for that matter you just twist the knob and it blasts your [ __ ] so perfect man right on the right spot and it's like pressure cleaning all that poop off of there i mean think about it if you had poop all over you would you wipe it with paper towel or would you get in the shower come on man it's my favorite product period it is such a joy for me to let you know about it you have to get one so here's how you do you go to hellotushy.com stevo why because by using that you're going to get 10 off your order and free shipping one more time to get 10 off your order and free shipping you're gonna go to hellotushy.com stevo and trust me is gonna be the best move you ever made for your butthole because we we were wild too you know what i mean we we we were younger a while too and we were like man it started to really bother me and everything after we left you know what i mean i was like man i feel i felt like a trump were taken so much because it was just me and uh abk and and you and you had all your dudes everywhere filming everything and everything and i was like man i felt outnumbered and everything and i was like man when i see him again i'm gonna bring let's let's let's you know let's kick a second and that's not unusual for you right like you guys like you know beefing with everybody getting in fights like that wouldn't have been out of like out of the ordinary for you to actually oh yeah back then yeah it was it was it was it was it was more of the regular thing for us to be you know uh you know we we don't normally instigate the attack we didn't normally instigate fights so i will say that but um i i just we just got i just got salty about man i thought for sure i thought for sure was going to come out on one of your videos you know what i mean and i thought man i'm going to look like a fully because i kept telling the guys don't film me man try not to film me with the with the i know you know and the guys kept filming me they didn't give a [ __ ] what i was saying you know and so i i thought man that shit's gonna come out and so um we ended up seeing you probably probably no actually we saw you one another time and we didn't do nothing that time then we said man next time we see him but we didn't talk to you we just saw you you know yeah and and we said i said me and my guys we said next time we see them we're gonna rough them up man and um so we saw you at the rainbow room sitting out on the out of the um uh patio area having this under water we were like he's out there man let's go get him so we mobbed up there you know what i'm saying and we're like we're just gonna run up on them and start socking them up and um saw you would be real you know we were like oh [ __ ] that's the homie we can't you know he's gonna be real that's a that's a pass right there man we ain't doing it gonna do [ __ ] throwing real you know it's so we just were like [ __ ] let it go but then you know then i read the book and everything and everything was totally different after that you know what i mean but but um yeah you know um yeah we were well we were wild too you know what i mean and that's that's what it what eventually became in our heads man we're like man [ __ ] that was wrong you know and um and we that's how that's the level it built to us you know but um i'm glad nothing ever happened man part of me wishes it did man that part of me wishes that like it would have turned into like a wu-tang clan situation where [ __ ] rayquan like had me by the neck and he's like you're gonna apologize i'm gonna knock you out from all these people and i'm like i'm sorry i'm sorry i'm sorry you should have put on your clown makeup stephen you're like let's do this i mean i mean but whatever man it's just it's really cool to you know to to address that man and you know what i remember and i'm sure i never said this back in the day but as i understood you and your career you guys were on another on another level as far as owning your own [ __ ] as far as your merchandise operation like you guys had carved out your own thing where you weren't the biggest band but you had the most [ __ ] rabid passionate fan base that bought everything and you guys were just killing it as businessmen and uh i don't know what what what we did to be so fortunate to have that kind of following man i i to this day i don't know why we're so blessed why we're so fortunate to have um uh people buy our music to support us that hard man but they do and they're the most wonderful most outgoing like we we might not have millions and millions of fans but the the the people that support us are strong and they're they're loud like millions and millions of fans you know what i mean and uh they're just incredible people man they're they're they're very creative and they're very um they don't they don't walk with the sheep you know they go their own route and everything and they do their own thing and uh they're the most amazing people i know of and it's funny because the reputation they have of being like dangerous crazy insane people it's it couldn't be any more opposite of the truth when you see the reputation they have they don't just have a reputation for being that they're actually [ __ ] classified by the fbi as like a full-on [ __ ] gang like like gang of in and gang affiliation if you get labeled with that that's like some heavy [ __ ] right it's a pretty like what does that even mean [ __ ] man it means a a number of things depending on where you live but like if you're let's say you're having a um a custody battle you know with with your ex your spouse you know their their attorney can say your honor this person according to the government is a gang member you know and you could lose you could lose your child you know for something like that you know and it's true if you're a juggalo in in many in many areas you're considered a gang member you know as far as i know there's never been anything like that in music that i've ever heard of you know where they took an entire fan base and and officially labeled them a gang you know and the reason they do that a book came out about it in what according to the book the reason they do that is because if you go to like a a rural area like these towns where there's um hardly anybody lives and it's way out in the country or whatever um and you got 50 kids at a at a local park having a barbecue and all those kids are wearing the same [ __ ] and they all got the same logo on you could say that's a gang and if the police can say that's a gang they get government funding to to fight that gang or however that works you know what i mean they get extra money to combat that gang you know so you have all these rule police forces saying yeah we got that gang here too you know it's not really a gang of course but it's the easy way for the cops cops to make extra money for [ __ ] take the dents out of their police cruisers or something i don't know you know that's crazy but it's crazy [ __ ] insane man we we didn't know what to do i mean are you the gang leader technically master in chief i mean i don't know what i am to the fbi man i don't know what we are today number one this [ __ ] is [ __ ] insane and um we didn't know what to do i mean what do you do a situation like that we tried to sue the fbi uh it got thrown out of court four times you know we try to assume we're like this is [ __ ] insane man like um you might even be getting sentenced because you have some pot on you or something and you're being sentenced as a gang member you know what i mean that's what that like aggravates the yeah man it adds to your [ __ ] uh punishment you know in certain places and um [ __ ] is [ __ ] up man and you know like this one girl this one thing always sticks out in my mind she was um a probation officer for 15 years this woman was a probation officer and on her walking papers i mean on the [ __ ] pink slip they gave her or whatever it said right on there because you're a juggalo you know they're they fighter 15 years you know damn what's the threshold like what what uh qualifies one officially as a juggalo spoiler alert folks i am totally planning on qualifying as a member of their gang and you know what else i think i already qualify as a hardcore athlete why because i wear a whoop strap on my right wrist and i stay on top of all the information that i get from my whoop app right what kind of information do i get well i know everything about the levels of sleep that i that i have right my deep sleep my rem sleep i know how much my body recovers from the day before i know how much strain i'm ready to take on and when i do take on strain i know exactly what's going on with my heart rate my heart rate variability i get more awesome information from my whoop app than i could get from any other fitness tracker that's all there is to it and you know what's going to happen today right here in tight box packing a little skate sesh yeah i'm going to get a workout in and it's going to be totally intense so i want you guys to try this how are you going to do it you're going to go to woop.com that's w-h-o-o-p-com and you're going gonna use the promo code stevo and that's gonna get you 15 off at checkout give it a shot man become a hardcore athlete like myself yeah and now let's talk about gangs tattoos or um you know like uh we're having the sticker like that used to be the thing to do to have a sticker in your car you know with the with the with the logo the hatchet man in the back window it was way juggalos identified each other with this in the back window or whatever but now nobody wants that in their back window because they're the first to get pulled over and [ __ ] with you know what i mean just for having it it's like a grateful dead dancing bear dude you know what i want to do i was already thinking about it we were checking it out the [ __ ] hatchet man i want to join the gang dude i want to [ __ ] yeah i feel like i i feel like that would like be cool for me to like heal from from like the the you know this this wreckage of my past this this wrong that i did i feel like if i got the [ __ ] hatchet man tattoo like like are you down with me getting the hatchet man tattoo dude is that is that yeah brother i'm done with that man where did that come from the hatchet man tattoo and that that symbol it started off as a as a logo for our record company uh psychopathic records but i think it's become more of a um just the most recognized uh juggalo logo i think you know that that the juggalos used to identify each other with like you might see that tattooed on somebody and you and you know they might maybe you're maybe you're a waiter at a restaurant or something and you see that tattooed on some people you're serving you know to give them a break you know what i mean on their bill or whatever you know what's inside club a thing of love you know okay you got something in common something strong in common you know and i think that's that's where people were mistaken see in the early days people used to come to our concerts at three o'clock in the afternoon you know they'd be lined up there'd be 300 kids out there lined up right and they say man you guys are really popular they're all out there lined up already and the doors don't open until seven o'clock or whatever but it wasn't for icp they were coming they were they were lining up because they love to be with each other they love to they you know you might feel like you're you're alone in this world you might feel like you got nothing in common with nobody and um but then when you would go to the concert you would realize man all these people are just like you they find the same [ __ ] funny they find the same [ __ ] touching they find the same [ __ ] you know you know what whatever it is you know about you you realize you're not alone you got all these other people just like you and you would people would recognize that at our concerts and it was never once that our conscience wasn't some [ __ ] like hey man you step on my shoe [ __ ] you know what i mean you don't see fights at our show man you never ever see fights in our show unless it's security or something fighting with with the juggalos you know juggalos don't fight with each other man they don't never ever ever ever fight with each other it just don't happen and um people would come to the concerts early not because they they're so passionate about icb that's what it looked like but in reality they were coming to be with each other man they loved it to to be with have the company of each other you know that's what the gathering is all about that's why they have their own mini gatherings you know where they'd have like a barbecue or something and some park somewhere we ain't nowhere near it and they would they would get together 50 or 100 of them or whatever and just hang out for the day because they love each other's company man it's it really means a lot to them to be together you know and and what what it's come down to after all these years is sort of like we've been given the role to organize these events we're just a soundtrack you know what i'm saying to this wonderful [ __ ] thing that's happening you know this movement this this underground movement you know and of course people always guess what they don't understand you know and so people say oh man whatever the [ __ ] that [ __ ] is that juggalo [ __ ] you know they talk [ __ ] about they don't understand it so they talk [ __ ] about it but it's actually a very [ __ ] beautiful thing people have found their wife or their husband at these events people that found their best friends and you know it's changed people's lives and it's not the music that's done it it's it's the juggalos that did it it's the company you know i think i think that's what for some reason we've been given the role to provide the music you know and it's just it's an unbelievable honor man it's cool it's mind-boggling to try to wrap your head around it you know i don't know why we got so fortunate speaking of uh providing the music you said that uh the hatchet man started out as the logo for your record label and that's a big [ __ ] deal when like when a band uh owns their own music right so when you say like your record label that means you own all of your own publishing music rights yeah well you know we didn't we didn't wait around to try to get signed you know what i mean like a lot of bands they'll they'll yeah it's kind of like it's catch 22 because if you want to make it big you got to be signed to a label right if you want to make money you got to own your own music so it's like you're [ __ ] if you do you're [ __ ] if you don't because if you sign the label yeah you might blow up but then the labels got you for like a five album deal before you get paid [ __ ] and like and and if you put out your own music on your own label yeah you own your own music you own the rights but nobody's [ __ ] listening to it because nobody knows about you because you don't have the backing of the label so very few artists have been able to do that i mean what comes to mind is is uh master p was like the initial [ __ ] like he owned his own music ah whether cash money [ __ ] birdman like they own their own music i can't think of a lot of others you know but you know what though things are changing now though like like now there's almost [ __ ] man things have changed so much recently over the last [ __ ] 20 years in the in the music business that there's almost no no need for a major label anymore i mean you can you know put something interesting out together as a poor video and slap it on youtube and blow the [ __ ] up all by yourself you know i put it on itunes and putting on all the streaming out outlets and you don't really need a record label for [ __ ] i mean today you can do it yourself it's so accessible the industry is so it's it's like it's almost it's almost foolish to sign a major label yeah i mean you know because you got to give more than just um you got to get what they call a 360 deal now which is you got to get your touring rights all kinds of [ __ ] man merchandise money everything you know and it's like [ __ ] man because um you know the record labels are going to get paid one way or another you know if they can't get paid selling cds they're going to get paid selling your t-shirts or whatever you know and you're saying yeah i mean the number of artists that are blowing up on their own doing it on their own is just it's like feels like it feels like it's half the industry you know and that's awesome that's the [ __ ] man you know like i look at the all these artists that are like huge pop stars today they came up on their own they were famous before they signed a record deal right justin bieber's the perfect example exactly exactly there's i mean there's a ton of them now and it's it's the [ __ ] man it's like it's almost obsolete like record labels and even studios even recording studios they're almost no need for them anymore because everything you need is in a laptop like like you used to pay you know 75 bucks an hour for studio and for what i mean everything you need now it comes i mean my daughter can make a beat on her phone and it's yeah you know and she don't have to even buy a special app for it it just comes in the phone like that you know what i mean it's like things are so different now that like you can you can get a microphone plug it into your laptop get that situation where they got the sound proof around the microphone and stick your headphones on and record right there there's no need for a studio there's literally like i heard uh one of the biggest artists today cat our doji cat recorded all her hits in her bedroom with her brother you know these are songs going platinum on the radio and she did them in her bedroom you know with her brother that's [ __ ] awesome man that's where music should be done you know yeah i think billy eilish is a similar story like one of her hits she made like in a hotel room just oh yeah supporting with your brother too there's no re there's no reason to go out and spend all that money on a big recording studio i mean i record in a studio but it's my studio and it's just because i'm used to being in a in a room that looks like that you know what i mean but [ __ ] man i mean like there's there's i tell artists that are starting out today all you need is a good laptop that's your record label that's your management that's your studio that's your everything you know what i mean right on your laptop you know what i mean you can do it all yourself man it's not even hard to find out how to do it either you know it's it's really it's it's the lanes there used to be secret roads up the up the mountain as we put it but now they're like wide avenues like a lot of the industries is going up those avenues you know doing it themselves the the dyi is everything now it's it's way bigger than it was when we started out you know for sure how many icp albums are there at this point [ __ ] gang loads man probably yeah that's great actual albums like of of all new music you know um [ __ ] man how many fish albums are there you know it's just how many fish are there exactly um i would say 20 probably 25. that's since 94. then then there's eps you know a bunch of eps out and uh um collection like like um there's a ton of like singles and one-offs and and then albums compilations of rare one-offs and [ __ ] like that there's five hours freshness one through volume one through five and and i think it may be up to six now and [ __ ] just crazy amounts of music out you know what i mean lots of music out man i i hope one day when we're dead there's [ __ ] conventions of our [ __ ] and everything i'm sure they will man i'm sure i would be surprised if they didn't already have that well you know maybe on a small level you know what i mean but that that that'd be [ __ ] incredible man you know i guess everybody just wants to be remembered you know like you want to make your mark sort i think that's like i don't really i think about it a lot more than i should probably but it seems to be the goal in life right is is like make your mark you know what i mean here's the thing dude like without getting too deep into it i think that uh as human beings we're in a [ __ ] real jam because we got one instinct and that is to survive and we have one guarantee which is we're not gonna [ __ ] survive so the one [ __ ] thing we care about is the one [ __ ] it's like wait what our [ __ ] whole existence is a prank on us that sucks so bad like every instinct is to not die and we have to go through life knowing that we're gonna [ __ ] die we're just barreling towards the one [ __ ] thing that we're most afraid of and we gotta we gotta wrap our head around that one way or another so there's three ways people do it they have kids so they can say oh when i die you know i reproduce so i got my family lineage you know like how part of me lives on and then the other way is that people if they turn to religion man that's why religion's so [ __ ] popular because it promises that it's okay that you're gonna die because you can go to heaven and that's not me either then the third way is i'm going to leave some [ __ ] behind i might be gone but the [ __ ] i leave behind is going to be forever and uh yeah you and i fall into that category very clearly you want to leave your mark you want you want to be remembered for some reason but it doesn't really matter when you're dead yeah that's the funny thing too it's not going to matter but but it does now dude that's why the [ __ ] cavemen in the caves were drawing [ __ ] stick figures because they knew that they're going gonna be dead as [ __ ] but they're like damn this stick figure's gonna be here forever yeah i'm gonna tip this into this rock and it'll be here forever yeah dude who did it i did it [ __ ] you know you guys are leaving behind not just music like a culture like a whole it's insane you guys are in the books of history with the only [ __ ] registered gang dude i'm joining man i want to go to the [ __ ] tattoo i became a tattoo artist man so i don't know if i'm going to give myself my [ __ ] hatchet man yeah we could stop by violent jays on the route and are you you're in detroit right yeah yeah so one thing we thought was uh pretty interesting [ __ ] scott rolled up he goes man dude you got lucky man like these guys don't [ __ ] around like you know they they beef with everybody they're [ __ ] they scrap with [ __ ] like but i felt like you know seeing the interviews back in 0.40908 like you were down for that but it seems like now you're kind of just super mellow and you want to just [ __ ] chill it's hard not to be because man i mean like okay like we used to proudly call ourselves the most hated man in the world you know that's how we felt it seemed true almost you know we're the most hated band in the world like like i mean i could give a million examples you know what i mean from being usa today's worst band of all time making that list number one several times you know what i mean i mean the magazines that have that have dissed us is [ __ ] endless but um it don't seem like that no more it seems like every time there's a story about us now they're saying something good you know like they're saying something nice about us and it's it's it's hard to have that chip on your shoulder anymore because so much is we've got so much to be proud of and and to be happy about and we really we receive so much love how we gonna go around being pissed off man and be real at the same time you know what i mean like look at look at how fortunate we are man i mean like my i got my kids college paid for man you know what i mean i'm doing something i would do for [ __ ] free i would pay to do this man i would i i did pay to do this for years you know and um to actually make money doing something we love i mean how are we gonna how are we gonna go around being bitter and salty with when we're that fortunate you know what i mean like looking at other people working these shitty [ __ ] jobs man and obviously hate you know it's like i think we're extremely fortunate man and and and it's hard to walk around being mad at the world when when you had that kind of fortune man you know what i mean but for the sake of entertainment but you know just to for the sake of entertaining the listeners let's talk about when you were like salty like right like why did you like do am i corrected you like just gotten a feud a rap beef with eminem yeah yeah we got we it's all love now of course you know what i mean but yeah we got into it and it was more of a um it was an ugly ugly battle you know but that's because we're both from detroit and our camps were fighting it wasn't us and eminem scrapping somewhere you know what i mean it was our camps fighting each other and that was that wasn't good man that was bad you know what i mean it was like you know what i mean those guys would be at somewhere and we would be somewhere and it would just be a [ __ ] war jumping off on the street you know and it wouldn't even involve him or us at all you know what i mean and that was just [ __ ] up man for a long time you know what i mean that was an ugly fight man and before he passed away uh proof um who was eminem's right-hand man and and of course he's a lot more than that especially here in detroit man he's like um he's like a godfather rap here in detroit he's like a um legend you know what i mean um but proof um was on a mission it seemed to squash a lot of the beefs eminem had you know what i mean yeah in this like about the right about the year he died proof was doing this and and he reached out to us and we had like a bowling match it was us versus d12 and like a bowling match you know that was [ __ ] awesome i was so proud that he included us because like i said we were the most hated band it was like i'll [ __ ] them they don't count you know like if you if you were naming off groups music um that was successful from detroit you could name off all kind of people and then somebody'd say what about icp oh man [ __ ] them they don't count you know what i mean it was always like that so when proof included us to squash the beef and he he came to our office and um and like he he jumped on a song with one of our groups and um he gave us a shout out in his verse and [ __ ] it was just it meant a lot to us man i mean it really meant a lot you know what i mean and um he ended up being killed just months later and i wanted to go to the funeral you know but but um i didn't know if eminem himself knew about what proof was doing to the extent right and i didn't want to show up at bruce funeral and that ma'am and mcs they were like what the [ __ ] are they doing here you know what i mean i didn't want to take the chance of something like that happening you know what i mean um because i know he was so much closer to proof i mean so much incredibly closer you know it just it was it was a [ __ ] up time you know what i mean um but uh yeah you know that was an ugly war for a long time man say top three other beefs [Laughter] we didn't really have a gang of beefs like that you know what i mean i mean we we would get arrested for fighting you know people would just come up talking [ __ ] you know i mean like i know you've you've had to have had it steve oh man you've had that people just come up say you ain't all that steve oh just for no reason you're like what the [ __ ] it's about you know sure i know people probably go up to tyson and say yeah you hit that hard you know what i mean yeah if you fight back is a lawsuit and they get money exactly exactly you know i mean i think that's why like all celebrities sometimes have security you know because people just get you know they just they just see you there and they get you might be sitting in a strip club and they just get salty you're there you know yeah [ __ ] over there shining i hate them you know you know dissing you for no [ __ ] reason you know what i mean so we'd get arrested for fighting here and there but we didn't go around like just fighting everybody you know for no reason we always had a legit reason i thought you know what i mean i get that impression i was watching a clip of uh you guys on howard stern when sharon osborne and you guys were kind of like there was some confrontation there but i love going back to like you guys being so independent you were like what are you even gonna do to us like we're untouchable like what you're gonna take me off the radio like i'm not on the radio like i got my own label like there's you were kind of like it was a good example to show like the way you guys went even though it's so hard you sort of you're like invincible though true though it was true she was like a a giant in the industry you know but we were we were like out of the industry you know we were in the streets we were in in the industry we were in the streets you know it didn't really matter all the connections she had you know what i mean we were like whatever [ __ ] you you know and uh i remember she said um um she said your next album i'll bet you right now i don't remember what she bet but she said um your next album won't sell 50 000 copies we were like [ __ ] you know what i mean and and i always wanted to go back on there because she she was the one that made that bet you know what i mean our next album sold that and our next four sold that you know what i mean so she lost that [ __ ] bet and i want that money dedicated to a [ __ ] charity in our name you know what i mean because she lost that [ __ ] bed and she was the one that made it on that show you know what i mean so hey uh so i'm so fascinated with the we've had a guest on here that's been interviewed by this person but i saw that you guys got interviewed and i'm wondering oh is this the person who digs up like yeah when you guys did the interview with nardwar oh yeah did you ever find out how he knows that [ __ ] because when he's like hey so you date girls at kinko's like who would have [ __ ] told them in your camp some of the stuff that like nobody knows i suppose he could have just read our book or or something but i'm gonna tell you something i don't wanna i don't wanna say anything bad about but not not the wire but um i got to tell you something man this sucks too he gives you all this bottom ass [ __ ] like he like he gives you all these rare mix-a-lot albums and stuff that he's yeah yeah you're like whoa where did you find this you know it gives you all that stuff you're like [ __ ] yeah you know i remember he gave us a smiley album who's a local detroit rapper we used to be fans of when we were kids and he had some smiley vinyl we were like oh my god you know he gave it to us we're like hell yeah and then after the interview he takes it back man what do you mean he's like yeah i need that back we're like now the key chain that he gave you guys first off took everything back you guys were so it's like that mtv show buzzkill yeah dude and this guy's totally open [ __ ] in the world man we were so grateful you know and then he's like all right now we're done really i didn't know that because he gives albums to everybody dude you have told me about that [ __ ] guy like 30 times yeah you're so stoked i want dude now we gotta ask all the did he like whitney coming he did whitney cummings and he'll say something we gotta ask her like i was dying because we had whitney cummings on and he would say something to her and she's like nobody ever knew that about me like it's something that a waiter said to her in seventh grade that she told like so i was always curious if you guys ever found out how the [ __ ] does he know that kind of [ __ ] he's like i don't give a [ __ ] how he knew him [ __ ] that guy it's cool how he does that though that's a cool thing like he looks seen as like really rare things about a person you know that's makes it interesting you know every time he interviews somebody he's always like flipping their wig with some [ __ ] that they don't expect him to say you know what i mean right yeah well it's always like it's always mind-blowing stuff and so i was just curious because he kind of he was saying some stuff to you and you were like what the [ __ ] like you're flipping my with my my wig back dude like what do you what's going on here he's good with that [ __ ] man but you know i think most most of what he said to us um was i'm pretty sure most of it was in the book in the book i wrote i wrote a book probably about 10 years ago i think most of it was in there or some of it wasn't you know he's just good like that i don't know it's a mystery man i think that it sounds like from all the time scott brought him up that his his stick is like you know some next level [ __ ] that's not like like i'm gonna guess from what i understand that some [ __ ] wasn't in the book yeah he's good with that he's got he's got some um spies working for him or something to get dig into some some secretive [ __ ] about people i don't know what he's doing what he's doing he's got a lot of unexpected questions including can i have that back now that's the only question i remember we had handfuls of [ __ ] we're like hell yeah that's the dopest interview we ever did yeah so speaking of handfuls of [ __ ] and like i mean that's what i remember again back in the day of 2004 i remember like being told these guys [ __ ] sell merch you know like merch like they're the [ __ ] kings of just loyal fan base that buys all their [ __ ] so is that still like still going down and like we ask everybody but who fulfills your merch orders do you have your own we have used to be we used to do it all out of a warehouse you know what i mean and have uh guys working there that would you know we used to do it the old-school way order five double xl five triple xl five four xl you know and then wait for him to sell but now everything's done made to order you know what i mean like okay yeah so so we have companies that we we certain things have been um certain things have been licensed off to this company and other things have been licensed off to this company you know but you know what really [ __ ] hurt us big time man as far as merch sales we used to be among hot topics top 10 all the way up until the actual year the fbi released that [ __ ] um gang list man and then our merchandise became gang apparel and and and hot topic took it right out of the [ __ ] store and we even did a concert for them at their warehouse we did a concert we were so tight with hot topic we did a concert for their employees at their warehouse somewhere in california we never did no [ __ ] like that we did it for them because we had such a great relationship and it was like two years later that list came out and we were took it out of the store forever and we still ain't in there man did did being on that list help in any way [ __ ] no um all we could do was think um we wanted to at the end of the day all we wanted to do was tell everybody we're not okay with it because if you if you don't say that you might as well be okay with it right like when the gang list came out we wanted everybody to know [ __ ] that we ain't a gang all right and the only way we could say that the loudest way we could say that was to do a march on washington and so we did that you know and we did a march on washington and it was [ __ ] greatest thing in my life man that whole year was the most stressful year of my life we did we announced it a year in advance and we didn't know man we didn't know if five people were coming we had no way of knowing if anybody was actually coming there's not tickets sold for it we had no idea you know and we found out how expensive hotels are in dc and [ __ ] and we're like oh man it was just looking so grim and um the whole year it was it was just a very stressful [ __ ] year but the day the day of the march came first the week of the march came and we did mad amounts of press and every everything oppressed we did like had our side had our back and it was unbelievable we couldn't believe it it was it was the greatest thing in the [ __ ] greatest endeavor we ever did and then when we came to the march there was like about 5 000 people at the march and that was best day of my life best day of our of our career you know i mean you know we couldn't we could have had fifty thousand or a hundred thousand five thousand was five thousand more than we expected man that was the [ __ ] greatest day of our career man and it was so wonderful actually doing the march you know it was so [ __ ] what a great [ __ ] awesome day that was man and and uh that happened in 2017 and um it was just it was just the greatest man it was the greatest event i've ever been a part of man it was it was the most [ __ ] man i don't even have words for it man it was i can't even express what it meant to us man it was it was [ __ ] beautiful hey when uh when i saw that uh you know violent jade talks about his beef with stevo uh video right away i wanted to reach out to you and i was looking on instagram to try to find like and i couldn't tell like it didn't seem like uh like i couldn't identify a distinct violent j instagram page do you have your own one yeah i got i got uh my my instagram what's my instagram yeah violet j dot icp yeah all right dude boom got you on there what a cool dude yeah man i got a dude you have so much uh so much gratitude so much humility it's like uh you know i think a lot of people might be surprised like god dude the icp guy man like the [ __ ] good dude you know it's uh brother listen i want to say something real quick your instagram is the [ __ ] brother i love following you man ah man work hard on your instagram you always got some sweet ass picture dope as [ __ ] i mean you always i'm always like damn he's got the best instagram man oh man that means the world to me brother i appreciate it dude and uh he's got like an outrageous picture something on there it's like crazy as hell it's like i love vlogging on you bro man it's dope man you do a great job with that man thank you for that man i wasn't sure what uh what your account was man but uh but now now i asked you and i just hit follow on you so if you ever wanna like [ __ ] holler at me if there's anything i can do for you man just shoot that dm it'll go right like uh you know it'll show up like yo you got a message you know i know i would love to do something to uh collaborate with you to you know get behind you to [ __ ] we'd love to have you at the gathering man have you hoped the main stages together and that would rock man all right wait before we wrap up i do have a question i have one more question all right uh so i went to music business school and they talk about you guys like these guys did it full independent um but there's like this legend that people talk about where they say icp picked just a random town on the map and it just ended up being this one random place in texas and they went there and just flooded it with posters and flyers and to this day they have a real big following in this one random town in texas is there truth to that yeah we we um because we um we had detroit you know it it seemed like we were just a local thing because we were selling so many records in detroit that we are trying to get a record deal this is back in like 1995. we were trying to get a record deal so um jive records they're not even around anymore it's hard to believe there was such a huge label uh jive records came and signed us and um and um but they only put us out like in in michigan basically we you know we're selling like 80 000 um units in in the detroit area and so basically they signed us and just were selling that and taking all the money you know what i mean but they weren't really working the record anywhere else so we threw a dart at a a map of america and it landed on dallas texas and we we we [ __ ] we took we took we bought three vans and we wrapped them with our our album cover and all that and we put fat rims on it and put sounds in them and we drove the vans to to and we got samplers of the album we bought [ __ ] 100 000 samplers and flyers and posters and we basically moved to dallas and we just concentrated on dallas texas like everything we had we just pumped dallas texas every day at three o'clock those vans would be at three different high schools in the dallas area handing out samplers to all the kids coming out you know just handing out free samplers everybody you know and uh we go to all the record stores we go down to deep ellum where all the clubs were at night we'd hand out samplers everybody going to all the bars and clubs and you know and um man next thing you know we had two markets we had detroit and dallas you know it worked and it was it was our way of proven to the label man all you gotta do is work it you know it's not they thought it was like a local thing the clown [ __ ] they didn't understand they thought uh some weird detroit thing because if you look at the history of detroit kiss detroit was one of the first cities they were successful in you know alice cooper's from detroit with his crazy paint and all that i mean detroit's always been like a a weird place when it comes to painted faces and showmanship you know what i mean and um so i think in the beginning the record label thought we were just a detroit thing happening you know but we wanted to prove we could we could hit anywhere if if the attention was given to it you know and uh we did we proved it you know but we didn't really care at that point we had we had started to build our foundation ourselves and pretty much by the time we ended up signing the record deal we wish we hadn't you know what i mean as we built our label up so big there wasn't much they could do for us anyway you know what i mean [ __ ] yeah start to answer your question sounds like it's a hundred percent true sounds like yeah i was always curious man i'm so glad to hear it from you that's awesome yeah that's dope man that they did they talked about us in that in that class man that's the way where was the school paul i went to full sail university in orlando florida and it's i was like in a music business program but yeah they were you know in like it was a lot of this like you don't really need a label necessarily and you can do it independent and the band they really point to is icp and like uh everything that they did to just cultivate their own audience and even this whole like you don't need a million fans they're like if you have a thousand fans that are willing to spend a hundred dollars on you either music shirt cd a year that's 100 grand a year like build from that you know and like you don't need mass appeal you just need people that really [ __ ] with you man my advice to everybody is don't don't wait for somebody to come save you don't wait for somebody to come lift you up and take you on tour something start building you start walking up the mountain but it's the only way you're going to guarantee to get up that mountain start walking yeah it's 50 000 miles yeah it's gonna take years but you know what if you want to guarantee you're going to get up that [ __ ] start walking you know i mean just it's part of the fun is is climbing the mountain i mean a lot of times people people don't realize that that's the best of the adventure a lot of times when you get to where you're trying to go it's not what you thought it would be like so you realize the real joy was climbing the mountain the whole time that's when you you gain a little bit of traction you're like hell yeah it's so rewarding you know you keep getting you keep coming farther and farther it's rewarded after reward after reward it's very enlightening you know to do it yourself and guarantee you're gonna eventually get up that mountain because if you sit and wait you might wait your whole life away and it never happens man you know what i mean it's damn right start walking up that mountain man that's what i tell everybody man yeah it looks like a forever journey but it's rewarding you know it's like if you're trying to lose weight it's not like you have to weigh 500 pounds for five years and then one morning you wake up and you've lost it all you get to lose weight all along the way you know what i mean so it's the [ __ ] you know i mean start losing it you know what i mean don't don't just wait for somebody to come along and take it off you you know what i mean oh man what a great [ __ ] message i uh i'm so glad we did this man and uh i really like i said before man i wish i would have thought to reach out to you i [ __ ] didn't i'm sorry for that and uh you know i i wanna i officially acknowledge i was a [ __ ] [ __ ] to you dude you didn't deserve that you you're the man man you got nothing but my respect man to the fullest brother i i respect you i have respected you man i respect you after i read your book and i and i expect you more now man thank you brother thank you for inviting me on and thank you and um man i i appreciate it so much brother dude i respect you like more than ever man i'm from [ __ ] man we i think everybody that watch this that listened to this just [ __ ] fell in love with you man like uh really an honor brother thank you thank you brother that's a wonderful dog too what kind of dog is that i found her in the streets of peru she's a south american really yeah south american street dog that's her um that's her breed yeah that's awesome man that is awesome hell yeah dude but hey hit me up anytime man for sure brother you guys be cool man thank you man i gotta say that was genuinely healing for me man you know i wish i would have had that conversation years ago but hey better late than never and what what can i say man do you guys just stick around to the very end i love you you want to know something ironic okay this warehouse that i'm in tight box packing the immediate next door neighbor it's this [ __ ] dance studio that just blares music all day long we're trying to record stuff in here it's a nightmare i get so mad i'm like ah then it occurs to me the irony of me having a [ __ ] neighbor that won't shut the [ __ ] up it's pretty rich in any case thank you guys now it's time to skateboard

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Published: Thu Jan 21 2021