Corey Taylor - Steve-O's Wild Ride! Ep #53

hey everybody and welcome to a major rock star episode of wild ride with stevo man this is exciting dude slipknot one of the biggest metal acts on the planet ever and they've just been going stronger and stronger like for what over 20 years dude man get ready because this is rock and roll ladies and gentlemen corey taylor yeah dude so i would like you to meet my co-host scott randolph hey corey hello dude how are you and up at the front of the van we've got the gorgeous paul briskey hey corey how are you i agree with the the gorgeous nice oh wow dude that's [ __ ] up and his voice oh my god deep voice big balls there you go it's a pleasure to talk to you thanks man yeah man i mean [ __ ] dude i gotta uh plead ignorance man i i couldn't i wasn't ready for when you were on the bert cast like that you've got the biggest numbers the bert cast ever had bird of course being bert kreischer and yeah yeah and bert's got the biggest numbers we've ever done on this podcast i mean hey the ripple effect of bert and i was with them just earlier today i was i co-hosted uh two bears in one cave oh [ __ ] that's i love that show too man like i'm like a big podcast guy so i love all that [ __ ] uh well [ __ ] right on man and uh thanks for doing this it's great to have you first question is uh [ __ ] how old are you dude you look like you're [ __ ] early 20s [Laughter] i don't know how much money i owe you for that but that's [ __ ] rad man i i'm 47. holy [ __ ] dude i'm 46.46 and i was thinking too because i you know i watched a number of youtube videos to prepare for this and and uh it i was just struck thinking man like is this like an old ass video because you look so young and then that like now here you are [ __ ] color like that the hat isn't like a disguise hair loss or anything now i you know honestly i'm wearing the hat because it's like bed head day you know how it is like the quarantine bought out all the laundry looks you know it's it's pretty funny why i get it man and then you know like i'm sure that with the questions and the masks and slipknot none of the masks is probably [ __ ] uh you know ad nauseam uh tiresome but my i just think get a little bit of a pisser to wear a mask when you're so goddamn good looking right you know the funny thing is i in 2004 i was voted hottest dude and heavy metal in the mask which i i don't know i don't know if that's a good or bad thing but i just i've always held on to that it's like i was number four you know in the mask and i've never charted without it so there you go were they clear in making the distinction that it was with the mask on or did they oh yeah yeah no it was a picture of me in the mask they didn't include any of my masks i'm way hotter in a mask i promise i swear to god i don't know that i agree with that have you always been or have you ever been like really uh guarded protected about what your true identity is like you won't appear without damascus well i mean we were we were in the beginning you know in the beginning it was it was it was cool that nobody really knew who we were you know and the reason that we wore the masks wasn't for anonymity or anything really like that it was it was all part of this this artistic vision that we had you know and part of it was the shock value but at the same time it lent itself to the artistic stylings that we were trying to to kind of go for like it was almost like a uniform like we were we were the anti-image you know like at the time everybody was so shiny and pretty and everybody had their fashion and whatnot and here we were nine dicks from iowa and we were like you know what you don't get our cheekbones or our hairstyle here's our mask you don't get our fashion here's our coveralls you don't get our name here's our name our number here's our bar code it was basically almost like an anti-establishment thing yeah but by anti-establishment you mean specifically anti-industry right like yeah guys very much so yeah you guys operated within the music industry and vocally and like energetically opposing the very industry you were in right right yeah we tried to eat it and uh we actually threw it back up so i'm not sure if that was a good thing or a bad thing but there you have it right i almost i was trying to figure it out like how many [ __ ] masks have there been cause you changed your mouth is it every album is a different mask i changed my album uh my mask every album yeah some guys like what they what they wear so they change it like subtly right i like to evolve mine yeah clowns well clowns is i mean he's still the clown but his changes every album like it's still a clown mask but it's totally different yeah yeah the first one was very like almost happy clown and then the second one was dark as [ __ ] with the pentagram and [ __ ] right right right the the cool thing about the original clown mask was that was his original mask from when he was i want to say like 12 years old oh wow yeah yeah so he keeps that one protected he still has it and every once in a while he'll bring it out just to like [ __ ] with us to be honest and it's just like oh god you know that's great man the uh that's like my cheetah there's only ever been one cheetah print bikini right yeah exactly everybody's got that one thing that like that's the original and that's you know there's you can have you know imitations whatever but it's not the same man like you can carry it through the years so what was he doing with that mask when he was 12. was it like for halloween or it was just like wow he was running around the neighborhood dude he was a maniac like he hit the reason and this actually predates me being in the band the reason that they started wearing masks in the first place is because he started wearing his mask at practice man like they would be in the basement like they weren't even in front of anybody man he would just he would put that on and it would just bring a different type of energy out of his playing and what he was doing so slowly but surely everybody in the band started bringing their own masks to practice like they didn't even debut this look until after they had really kind of consolidated it and then when i joined they actually helped me kind of put together my first mask and it was it was crazy man it was like it was a really cool vibe you know just it allows you to just go somewhere really gnarly and yet still be connected with the audience and connected with the music and but he's just yeah he's just he's just different cat man yeah i mean when you put the mask on are you corey taylor or you just somebody else completely on stage it's a little bit of it's it's it's a little bit of certain aspects of me you know because i mean nobody is is one-sided you know everybody's very multi-level like multi-layered we all have like different dimensions to us and that mask and that music represents a certain side of me certain events in my life certain things that i've gone through certain things i fight to this day you know and when i take it off i can kind of come back and be a well-rounded cory as opposed to just this you know nightmarish guy but it's it's definitely a part of me it's not all who i am but it's definitely a part of who i am you know right yeah it was interesting uh uh when people say you know they have a really good personality or this person the the root word of personality is persona and persona comes from the greek uh mask so i when somebody has a good personality i just feel like they're just it's a good mass that they're wearing for that time and it's not really where they are you know if somebody's real charismatic it's probably they're hiding something wow [ __ ] scott randolph coming in deep what happened now before you joined slipknot i i i found this particularly [ __ ] fascinating that uh the first incarnation of slipknot without having a record deal went into the studio to record a demo and that demo like they spent 40 [ __ ] thousand dollars to make a demo not even an album and like it just seems like it speaks to like how much the landscape of music has changed where now all it takes is like a [ __ ] iphone you know like oh yeah well a couple plugins yeah it's it's crazy right like right but that was different times man i mean even the i mean when we started pro tools was still like this thing that nobody could really understand you know our first three out my my first three albums were all done on two inch tape man so it took forever so you had to like if you were an engineer or a producer you had to know your way around these technologies now any dick with a pro tools rig can call himself a producer you know like you got the right plugins you can create something that either sounds exactly like everything else that's on the radio or masks all the the the hidden uh deficiencies all right that's me being very political right now so do you think do you see that as a good thing or a bad thing that it's like equal opportunity for everybody to express their musical you know [ __ ] art or do you think [ __ ] man it's all these [ __ ] coming in that shouldn't be making music well i have various uh depends on what day you ask them no no i'm pretty i'm pretty consistent i on the one hand i love how fast the technology is because it means people like myself who like to work fast we can get a lot of good [ __ ] done quick we don't waste our time trying to figure out a way to kind of trick the technology to do more than it's actually doing so it allows people like me people like who are in my position to be able to work quick especially when it comes to demos you know demos used to take forever and now i can go in and i can track six songs in a day you know and just and get it done because the technology can keep up with my brain now the the flip side of that is that there's there's two sides to the coin one it means that everyone can sound good but it doesn't necessarily mean that they are good does that mean that makes sense like you can you can it's the old adage you can polish a turd it's still a piece of [ __ ] you know like for me evening the playing field has made it harder for lazy people to discern what is good and what is bad because the crowd like like the audience for the most part aren't as educated as far as like you know like a lot of people who listen to my music don't have the the musical background that i do of like delving into genres and artists and bands like really going deep in and learning the history of what the stuff that i love you know most people are like oh it's top 40 that's just what i'm gonna do you know right so anything that sounds like that they're gonna just they're like okay that's good that's it may not but it's made it very easy for people to slide under the radar you know now it's not up to me to to say what's popular and what's not that's obviously you know the audience that's the mass but that means i don't listen to a lot of current music sure yeah neither do i when people have ever asked me what kind of music do you like i've always kind of bristled out the question and my response like sort of snarky like you know what like i consider music like food and i don't always want to eat [ __ ] twinkies you know i wouldn't [ __ ] change it up like you know and yeah absolutely and then i take it a step further and i say i don't even think that the people have necessarily musical tastes they've got more musical associations and by that i mean you could listen to almost anything and through repetition through repetition you're gonna develop a relationship with that music you almost like it's almost like your life experience becomes fused with music so that when you hear a certain track later on in life it brings you back to that those emotions those feelings those times so like you know we become associated with music and i think you listen to anything enough you're gonna fall in love with it and that's why the music industry is so successful at just ramming [ __ ] down your throat and then that's what you want you know um yeah i always say what genre's audio books because that's my favorite type of music i guess that would be that'd be spoken word i guess right yeah yeah now you recorded your first slipknot album when you were in the band and that was prior to having a record deal is that right that was right when we had gotten signed actually we recorded in late 98 early 99 album came out in 99 so i joined in 97 and we basically we that's when we really started writing the core of what the the first album was and what people would consider like the classic traps on that album that's when we wrote surfacing we wrote spit it out wait and bleed like all the ones that people really love and associate with that first album really came after i joined the band it was like this kind of spur of creativity that really just kind of came and and really is what got a sign because now here comes these labels who have passed on the band before now they're seeing us a new lineup a new look new songs and they finally go ah okay we get this this this could actually work and that's when we got signed we actually been we were technically signed to sony for about five seconds until they saw us live and saw nuts we were and they killed our deal dude like they for real killed our deal like it was the funniest thing i've ever seen and we thought we were done but then ross robinson said well screw it if nobody else signs you then i'll sign you to my imprint and i will produce you and put you out to be regardless the first the first record deal was with road runner right well yeah well they are who eventually came in and then signed us for real but i mean we had a record deal with sony that then they pulled on us because they freaked out they were like terrified of it i mean dude that makes no sense to me because like in watching youtube videos about slipknot like i was struck by like you know one of these like huge outdoor festivals and just the mosh pit with the people bouncing up and down it was just like i don't remember seeing footage of a of a band performing with that much kind of [ __ ] crazy energy you know at that scale you know and so for sony to see that and and not want to be a part of it and that's just uh it blew it an air yeah are you cool talking about sobriety yeah man absolutely curious on what your drug of choice was because i read that you were doing math at some time well when i was a kid yeah i was when i was a kid i was a speed freak um i did coke it did math i did all that stuff um but as i got i quit all that when i was a teenager because i i od twice when i was a teenager before i was 16. yeah um to quit all that i got older i got more into booze honestly because it was just easy you know and my personality is such that i never drank to chill i just drank to just get [ __ ] up you know so it was you know it was easy to just stay medicated for you know especially doing what i do and to just you know just continue that and i just i found myself becoming very very unavailable in my own life man you know and when you're a father uh you know at the time i was married a long time ago and i just kind of i just decided i was like man i got to figure this out or you know this is going to go a a direction that i don't want it to go you know so it took a long time to kind of figure out who i was and be comfortable with it again man you know so when you guys were getting [ __ ] up what was on the slipknot rider when you guys were just going there [ __ ] oh dude i don't even know if this was on the rider but we just had it at all times we had at least nine bottles of jack at any at every show um we had crown royal we had jaeger there was like some some people drank vodka um guys would have uh guys would have drugs brought uh which i never saw because that by that time i was just a you know just an alcoholic um yeah man there was i mean there was a a lot of crazy [ __ ] and so you guys would go on waking up on a pool table like in just you know just waking i'm like in a bar like i was like i was like how the [ __ ] did i get here i was miles away from the gig i have no idea yeah but how about how about the story about you waking up in a [ __ ] trash can or a [ __ ] dumpster that might have been a kind of sensitive question that i just asked corey right there but i'm about to address something really sensitive with you guys because the people from blue chew reached out to me about trying their blue chew tablets which contain the same active ingredient as both viagra and cialis except theirs are chewable and cost a fraction of the price and at first i thought you know what i don't suffer from erectile dysfunction i've never really had any problems getting boners but maybe this will be fun and so with an open mind i decided to try it and let me tell you how simple that was you just go online to bluechew.com and consult with one of 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five dollars for shipping if you go to bluetooth.com and use the promo code stevo so with nothing to lose enjoy yourself with bluetooth tablets because i'm telling you i really really did and i'm going to keep using them because it's fun all right so now let's talk about being in dumpsters that's what i was wearing right yeah that was after i had od yeah i uh and i think what happened was i i the last thing i remember was i was at a party this is when i was living in waterloo iowa i was at a party uh blacked out we were all just kind of doing you know just whatever was there i think i like my heart stopped something happened and my friend well my friends threw me away i think that's what yeah i think that's what happened that's the kind of city that that city is anyway but like when you wait when you come to i was covered in my own blood um i kind of i pulled myself out of the dumpster i had no shoes on and i was like strike like because there's that moment where you're like you don't really remember how you got there and i had to walk dude i was 12 miles away from my house geez yeah i walked all the way back and as i was walking i was like it was starting to kind of come to me and within a week i moved out of waterloo i moved to live with my grandmother in des moines which and then there you did were ever see those guys after that or talked to them about it no i didn't want it yeah at that point i was like well if i'm dead to them they're dead to me yeah jesus christ yeah it's very pretty heavy but then what about like that little possibility that like there was some perfectly good explanation for why you ended up in the trash can and they didn't throw you away maybe i mean i mean that's a good question dude i this day i was like i just kind of was just like you know what i should probably shouldn't ever go back to that life again you know i kind of cut it off but that's a good question it never even occurred to me but maybe there was another just like a perfectly innocent there's not a lot of perfectly innocent or good reasons to end up like it was it a trash can or a dumpster it was a dumpster yeah it was a dumpster yeah that puts you right up there with mickey six he the same thing happened to him in uh london in uh february of 1986. what happened he got he [ __ ] woke up in a dumpster he went and [ __ ] scored [ __ ] od and they're like [ __ ] this dude the guy's dead throw him in have the same deal oh [ __ ] yeah oh man and then and then he wrote a tune about it called [ __ ] uh dancing on glass glass yeah some of the girls girls girls albums yeah dude [ __ ] i love motley crew man how long did how long did it take you to get sober until after that point well he said that was when he was a teenager so so now 11 years ago yeah 2010. oh [ __ ] so you got sober right after paul gray died is that right i got yeah yeah i um because i had i had quit drinking and i started again and then when paulie died i uh it was kind of it was kind of weird like i was drinking to kind of deaden the pain but then physically it was hurting me and it which made it really easy for me to quit you know so i i i quit about a month after he passed i'm sorry who's paul gray he's one of the founding members of slipknot he was a bassist and by all accounts the most down-to-earth guy uh nicest guy didn't consider himself a rock star but you know ultimately succumbed to the substance abuse and died of an overdose man what was that last day of what was that last day of using like for you it was it was weird man like i was kind of heading that way anyway and i was on the uh i was on this uh tour with stone sour and we were at this kind of like after show party and i'm not a beer drinker but i was that's all they had so i was just kind of like tipping a couple of becks back and i woke up the next day and i felt awful like just when i i had two beers and i i had a hangover that felt like i drank three bottles of whiskey and it just for some reason it that was like the moment where i was just like you know what i think this is it this is it this is it i'm not getting anything out of this anymore like there's no pleasure in it there's no party in it there's nothing that i'm getting from it except pain i was like why do i keep doing this so and that between that and the fact that i just lost my brother to a you know who who he fought it his whole life like he would he would go to he would go to treatment he would come out and he would fight with his entire will and it was just too much he just kept going back to it man and but that that was it for me i was just like i just i can't i can't do it so did that did it start with you going going into treatment or you just did it on your own no i just i yeah i dry dried it i dropped it i've always done that i've actually that's how i quit drugs as well i just you know you deal with the dts for a few days and then that's it i did the same thing with smoking i i just i just there's something in my brain that just goes you're done and i just so quick so you did the dry thing for for a while and then were you like wow dude like maybe i should get some support and join the fellowship that's great i'm not i'm not in the program but all of my friends are in the program so when i hang out with my friends it's almost like i'm in a de facto meeting to begin with and when you talk uh yeah so it's so it's weird and they all have known everything that i'd gone through everything they were all friends with all of my friends and it's it's almost like being in the program but not you know right i mean my uh sort of take on it is that i mean for me i just don't even want to experiment with what happens in me trying to stay sober by myself because i'm a [ __ ] dead duck but the way that you described having been on you know meth and coke and just put it down and then like only alcohol you know like some people can do it and evidently you're uh somebody you can pull it so [ __ ] right on it's a weird switch man it's thank you i mean and i'd still to this day don't know why but it's also i've i've experienced that in my life as well like with relationships with people who were clearly not good for me i just once i kind of figured that out i'm just like you're done and i cut people out you know i just i've never overstayed my welcome with anyone well i can't say been one but i was married to her and that doesn't count and uh but yeah i mean it's just it's weird man i uh i guess it's the blessing um i wish it would have you know kind of kicked in quicker but at the same time i wouldn't be where i'm at now if i have gone through what i have you know so i never look at anything with regret i always look at it from the standpoint of i'm going to learn from everything i've been through and i'm going to write about it and if people if it helps anybody then so be it you mentioned stone sour and uh the you got a new album with stone sour is that right no actually i just put on my first solo album right okay you were in stone sour before slipknot yeah you did the first three albums with slipknot and then i was like okay we guys we need to take a break from each other so you went back to stone sour at that point everybody kind of did side projects yeah i mean yeah that was that was kind of kind of it the reason i put stone sour back together was because i was feeling left out of the music writing process like i wrote i wrote all the lyrics but when i was doing stone sour i wrote a lot more of the music and it was it's because that music doesn't sound anything like slipknot you know so that was one of the things that i was really good at was writing that sort of music with slipknot it's so intricate and so different of course it makes more sense that they would write more of the music but for me i was there was a part of me that wasn't feeling fulfilled in that side of it which is one of the reasons why i put stone sour back together was to kind of feel like i was contributing a little more on both fronts you know so i kind of juggled both for the last what 15 years right going from slipknot back to stone sour performing without the mask was there any sort of like nakedness or anything to like get used to or was it just like getting back on a bike i realized i gained 60 pounds really 60. oh my god yeah google fat corey taylor and so many pictures come up from that tour dude i was like well i mean and i was at the at the time i was still drinking so i kind of had the the whiskey bloat going on but i maybe just because i was drunk all the time i just thought i was so hot and i wasn't i mean i i looked like a mixture between meatloaf and jim morrison like it was a weird like fat jim morrison you know like but i but i thought i was still young corey and skinny and whatever so i'm like up on stage and i'm it's it's hard to look at let's put it that way but but i will say it was it was fun to kind of go back out and rediscover myself in a weird way you know and be like you know i could you know i could do this without without a mask you know and that's kind of what made me feel like okay the mask is really for slipknot you know but if i'm just kind of playing music i don't need the mask i can just be mean and go out there and entertain and do whatever so it helped me kind of feel like i wasn't cutting myself off from the world and just doing things that were flip not centric that makes sense sure when you were in stone sour before slip knot like that the band hadn't really like reached like either sort of stardom no no it was i mean we were just kind of a i don't want to say a basic rock band i mean we were a lot of fun like a lot of people loved coming and seeing us it was weird because it was stone sour and slipknot were like the two biggest bands in in town and it was almost like at the time i was the the best singer in des moines and they were the the bigger band in des moines and they wanted that extra the extra tool that extra bullet and the gun i'm not really sure you're saying slipknot what's that you're saying slipknot did yeah yeah yeah slipknot did but then you i i saw that uh you were at slipknot's very first show in the audience and you were like [ __ ] i'm gonna be the singer of this band yeah and i've never had that feeling before dude i mean i would have if they hadn't asked me to join i would have done stone sour till the cows come home i would have eventually done something that would have gotten the attention of whatever because we were shopping just like everybody else in des moines watched that first show and i was right in front dude i mean they came through the audience scared the hell out of it everybody dude because they're full mask they're in like they weren't wearing the coveralls yet but they were just in this crate these crazy outfits and they opened with i want to say it was like three minutes of just noise and blast beats and just i mean it was like being in a [ __ ] melvins concert i was just like i can't believe it it was so gnarly and i just for some reason i was so attracted to it and still like drawn in by it i i just i just was like i'm gonna be the singer in this band someday and i've never [ __ ] had that thought in a million years for anybody else and a year later they asked me i just it's crazy man that's killer man did uh stone sour have a record deal before you got into slipknot no no that that definitely helped being in slipknot right so at the same time we sounded different enough that we were able to and we we wanted to differentiate ourselves right away you know which is one of the reasons why we never did any like slipknot music on stage we never did anything except our own stuff you know and i think as time went by that helped us kind of become our own band you know i mean we were always going to be in the shadow of slipknot anything i do is going to be in the shadow of that sure all i can do is try to you know get a couple of rays of light to kind of pop here and there but you know it's a good problem to have dude you know it could be work you know it could be [ __ ] way worse right like six a.m you know right exactly yeah those guys can go and do their thing and it rules but i mean it's always going to be in the shadow of motley and it's a good problem to have man it means that you made your mark in musical history and so many people love you for that that no matter what they're they're gonna give you a chance on this other thing you know it's really good yeah [ __ ] right on what's 6am like a cover band 6am 6am is nikki sixx's other band yeah talking about uh motley crew are there other bands you like what are the other bands you grew up listening to and is there anything in there that would surprise us or surprise a slipknot fan i heard you tell larry kings that you would love sinatra yeah man yeah i mean i love jazz i'm a i'm a jazz guy yeah um i listen to it's weird ever since i was a kid i've really just kind of listened to whatever i want i was never one of these kids that kind of stuck with one genre i was always the weird kid in every group that i was that listened to everything you know i always caught [ __ ] from all my friends because of the music that i listened to so i would listen to i would listen to slayer i'd listen to cinderella i would listen to you know the ghetto boys all right i was i was like i just liked what i liked man you know and i never made any qualms about it you know as i got older i really started to kind of explore more of like um like the older hardcore stuff um i was always really into like the 70s punk scene um but as i got as i got older i i started kind of going backwards even further and getting like swing music jazz um especially what they called bebop but today would have been the progenitors for experimental jazz you know which would you know gillespie parker uh coltrane like all those that really kind of took soloing to a different level instead of you know playing for the song you played for the performance you know so that kind of drew me into more of the the music side of it um but then sinatra man i mean a song is a song right i mean but when sinatra sings it's totally different what got me into sinatra what's his cover of um what is it uh something which is a uh the beatles song something something in the way she moves he did a cover of that and i it tripped me out hard because he never liked rock and roll but he loved that song and i just loved the way that he took it and really just kind of made it his own you know and that made me go back and listen to everything that he ever did and i just to this day it's just he's he's phenomenal is that hat you're wearing a sinatra style hat no i started wearing fedoras when i was a kid because of freddy krueger oh i love it thank god but you know like a lot of bands they got like they have their heyday and then they're like it just sort of they're around but it's not their heyday and the thing is that with slipknot you guys were to put burst on the scene like 2001 like 2003 you're [ __ ] completely like on fire taking over but then you just had in 2019 like the the biggest [ __ ] year ever right like i mean so was there an early heyday and then like a rebirth were you guys just [ __ ] huge the whole time but how did 2000 how did 2019 shape up to be such a huge year for you guys it's really weird man because everybody every time we put an album out all of these people try to write us off like like it's like oh it's you know it's this it's this year and people still pretend to care about slipknot and all this [ __ ] and yet our last three albums debuted number one wow so it's not just 2019. like you guys just been killing it the whole time yeah so it's i think it's because we go away for a while and then we come back you know like we go we we we're not one of those fans that overstays its welcome we come out and we go gangbusters for like a year and a half two years and then we split and we let people miss us man we remind people of why they loved listening to us in the first place and with every album we try to give people something different we try to give them we give them this the slipknot stuff that you know that they expect but we also whip some some some different stuff on it we're constantly trying to push the boundaries of where we go music music wise and i think because of that people have gotten to the point where they never know what to expect with our album they know they're going to get new masks they know they're going to get new outfits they're going to get new art but they never know musically where we're going to go which is rad man so it's it's kind of it's kind of cool you know i mean it's you know it's been 22 years since our first album and people are like freaking out because i i mentioned in in an interview that we were working on new music and the world went ape [ __ ] yeah which is so that dude that it's everything you want to hope for when you're like you know like it's just like we we just get to do it all and it's i can't be happier for the fan base that we have for the opportunities that we've had for the luck that we've had obviously we've had some some rough times but you know i mean we're still here man and that's that's got to say something [ __ ] yeah what what's the process of coming up with a new mask look like do you have like uh like a special effects guy that like sometimes man i mean sometimes we have like a vision in our head like clown is really good at it because he's an artist so he'll kind of go somewhere gnarly and be like okay i've got this image and then we'll have you know outside people kind of help us create it but then there's sometimes where you're just like you know what i don't have a real vision but i have an idea and you talk through it with you know like a visual app like a visual arts guy or you know like a visual effects guy and they will create it for you and then you look at it and you go i like this change this and blah blah blah blah you whittle it down until you get to something that's really rad you know my new mask is going to [ __ ] scare kids so gnarly dude it's really uncomfortable it freaked my wife out she won't look at it and she loves loves crazy [ __ ] like that she's just like that's really bothering me you put that picture away and i'm like yeah this one and she just couldn't that's so that's the one that's not the process that you went through with the uh when they had to go through the cover right right i mean for like prosthetics like uh when they turn us all into old men for jackass you go and you make like a plaster cast mold of your head it's not allowed you know you know the feeling so you get molded every time you do a new one oh yeah oh my god because you were ready to freak out i couldn't do it there's no way it's a claustrophobic [ __ ] thing dude oh dude i fall asleep [Laughter] i told you there's something wrong with me but i mean it's like for real like you just i've seriously fallen asleep before where i'm just you know they have to kind of give me a nudge because if i go down like that i'm going to ruin them because they took it off steve he was like i almost lost it in there dude like two more minutes you know like it's tough man especially the first time when we did it for the jackass the movie my nose was all blocked up with cocaine all you can breathe through your [ __ ] nose i could barely breathe through it because there was so much [ __ ] blow in there i was [ __ ] like not okay wow i guess i'm glad that i waited you know yeah i stopped doing bloating yeah no kidding i mean people don't realize how much you go through just to get that mask i think it's just the math that you go on but it's a process pretty much so yeah i know and completely changing the look that had to have been [ __ ] scary man like where you're like oh okay now i'm gonna trash this this look that that uh it was the first one with the one that all the dreads and stuff yeah yeah yeah and then and then you come back well with the first my my mask the first two albums were very similar like the the iowa mask was essentially the same kind of vibe but i had changed the the uh the aesthetic a little bit still had the dreads it was the original dread i kept those but then we got to volume three and i just went man you know what i want to change this up and some of the guys in the band had changed theirs completely on iowa and i was like well they can get away with it you know i'm gonna try something different i did what was called what we called the the the the football mask because it it was kind of cut like this and then it had um that quite the quiet riot sticks oh yeah exactly yeah um and once that worked i knew that i could go and just and do whatever you know once you get past that first initial risk i just knew in my heart that i needed to once you get past that man that's [ __ ] sky's the limit you just go run with it you know dad that's crazy so what was the motivation to to do a solo album i've been trying you know i've been honestly talking about doing it for a long time but it just didn't make any sense because i had two band i had two great bands um i had you know i had opportunities to kind of do you know guest spots with a million different people so that i was just like you know what i just it just doesn't make any sense to do a solo album right now because i'm i basically get to do any type of music i want so right now just doesn't make any sense the reason i did it now was because i was i was putting stone sour kind of on hiatus anyway because i wanted to do something even more different and the whole reason i did the solo album is because i had all of these songs that i had written that didn't work with either band you know and i had tried to actually give these songs to other people and they just it just didn't vibe with it or they didn't want it or whatever and i just said man these are [ __ ] great songs i'm just going to put it out myself you know did you put it out yourself or did you do it with warner oh it's still on it's still on road runner oh [ __ ] but the hardest name is corey taylor we're still on we're still signed a road runner under the warner umbrella yeah yeah they were bought by atlantic and the atlantic is owned by warner so it's all kind of okay because i just noticed that like every single music video that you have on youtube for slipknot has a gigantic warner logo on there which is you know which is weird because technically we're not a warner band yeah they just happened to own us it's really sad what happened to roadrunner man like they were the biggest metal label on the planet for the longest longest time and it seemed like the powers that be just they were independent like they weren't owned by anybody they were like alternative tentacles right basically yeah but they were massive they were massive worldwide they had offices in every country they had the biggest bands in metal and with one fell swoop they sold all the rights they became owned by a certain label and within three years that label fired everyone who had been working there for 20 years like they fight like they fired almost everyone down to the point where they had to close all of the offices in like all of these countries i mean it was it was crazy dude these were people i had worked with my entire career right but that's what happens when you sell the [ __ ] company trust me we all sat around going [ __ ] man this is the end of an era right yeah i mean they sell the company so that's like you know what do you do when you buy something you do whatever the [ __ ] you want with it so it's understandable and as far as closing down all the offices around the world like you know probably looking at it and consolidating probably made financial sense you know like let's not pay rent if you look at the impact that road runner records had no doubt it's insane so to go from that high to then boom i mean it it shocked all of us like we were just like whoa dude right and i was making a stone sour album and like everyone i was working with just got wiped out now we just went um i mean we didn't have anybody to work with what the [ __ ] just happened i was crazy so i wonder what they need to sell for what was going on you know like right sounds like they that is a good opportunity yeah corey what'd you do with your first major paycheck that came in i love knowing that you know like you get your first paycheck and you're like [ __ ] what do you spend it on you know what i bought i went at like i uh the first time i really spent a [ __ ] ton of money on myself this is so sad this tells you how white trash i am okay are you ready for this yeah i walked in to a best buy i walked into a best buy and i bought ten thousand dollars worth of dvds this is no i still have them they could even print me out a receipt they had to give me a computer printout of everything that i bought well like it was so [ __ ] low rent dude it was [ __ ] shopping carts and all of my friends before i knew they were like you want this one i was like [Applause] so so i love that you like the original oh i did i did the same [ __ ] thing except more like with music cds you know like i would you know like but i don't remember that being like the first the first thing you've never asked me this i don't think and you're the first thing the big expensive thing that i bought i just think i [ __ ] i don't remember it i like bought a big fridge and a lot of booze i mean i would go on some crazy grocery yeah once i had an apartment okay you get your first not not not jackass one but like maybe then where you made the most and you're like [ __ ] dude i mean i don't know i mean i ended up buying a rolex in 2003. the rolex yeah i mean dude it's kind of embarrassing like yeah that's cool i mean whenever i had a roll like i ended up losing it in the pcp blackout i literally blacked out on bcp i have no id for all i know i gave it away no idea yeah if anybody listening has steve's first rolex maybe just he'll sign it or something i think i think somebody knows what the [ __ ] happened to somebody somebody else i think i know you think you know i i suspect i suspect that i know but uh in any case so um so you got the the the new solo album yeah and uh are you going out on tour behind the solo album yeah actually we just i think we were the first to announce uh an actual practical social distancing tour okay we're actually gonna do um uh it starts in may starts made 18th or 17th i can't remember we added a date um and it runs till mid or end of june and all but five of the shows have sold out already you know i bet i bet that whether while you know when come may come june i bet that they start putting more tickets on sale because like they might i mean we we we we got it down we sectioned it off so it's like it's only 10 to 25 capacity um everything is social distance it's uh you can buy tickets in pods and anybody in that pod you can stay in that pod you can take your masks off but outside of that pod you have to leave your mask on and that's regardless of what whatever state guidelines are going on but we're going off of the actual cdc it's so [ __ ] funny like the coronavirus you have to wear a mask and we're talking to the [ __ ] front man i remember when wearing a mask wasn't cool right how many people is that uh what are you guys doing arenas what do you guys do what we're doing uh like bigger theaters um there's a handful of like outdoor amphitheaters that are kind of like which is a little easier to do so uh i know there's a there's a handful of them that are over a thousand um but that's scaled in a place that would hold five you know so it's like so it's so it's i mean it's still to me it's still a gig man i played a charity gig last year for 12 people and it was one of the best [ __ ] nights of my life they were sitting so far away from each other weird dude i was just like what the [ __ ] are we doing here it was so but i was so stoked to be in front of an audience that i didn't care man and that right there was like that told me that it wasn't about the amount of people it was about the experience itself you know and that's one of the reasons why i did this i know a lot of people have been putting it off and putting it up and putting it off because they want to play for the maximum amount of people because they want to get paid the maximum amount of money but i was like [ __ ] that man like i'm basically breaking even with this and i don't care like i want to i want to [ __ ] play these shows because i want to have a good time you know right who i've got the my my wife's dance group is going to open the thing and [ __ ] blow fire and [ __ ] ariel and it's crazy [ __ ] it's cool we're just bringing a [ __ ] big rock and roll party to every city you know how many cities are you doing oh may through june so 30. i think it's like 25 25 there's a lot of the places we're doing multiple nights right okay killer is there um with like slipknot has these legendary live shows is there a a country that just goes the hardest dude we have so many we bring out the the crazy [ __ ] and everybody for real like one of the places that people kind of warned us about is like you know you're gonna you're gonna be put off by their by their you know the the the solemn quiet and when politeness was japan and dude they chased this down the street like he was a [ __ ] beetle for real and they they jumped the first night we played dude the place was apeshit and we left we we couldn't even stop to take our stuff off we just ran right down and got in this big cargo van right the fans ran out the front came right around the club and jumped on the van and they were shaking it like this and we were all like this is it this is how we die right here this is insane we're dying in japan and it was but then they let us like they finally let us go and we all sat there and it was that weird awkward like that was kind of rad but we almost died moment like it was like to this day man we go there and they absolutely give it up i mean it's crazy so uh we don't need to promote the the solo tour because it's already sold out all but five shows and if you wanna if you wanna figure out which of those five shows aren't sold out or maybe if you're holding out hope that the world's gonna open up enough that more tickets go on sale where do people go to buy the tickets to your tour oh uh you can go to my website thecoreytaylor.com uh there are links uh all over there you can also go to notfest.com uh which is uh my management has links up there as well um if you know where any of the gigs are you can probably go to those venues websites and access for tickets and whatnot um it's yeah i mean it's uh i think there's a good a good chance that they're gonna like put more on sale i think i hope so man i mean i'm getting i'm getting my uh my uh backs i'm getting my vacs next week and uh they just opened it up in nevada where uh anyone 16 and up can get and get them we were kind of waiting on that i might go ahead and you know i didn't want to you know show up to one of these places and be like hey could i get something they're like budgets to do a road trip to las vegas you're in nevada yeah yeah i live in vegas actually oh how about that dude [ __ ] cool man i was just thinking man i wonder why we didn't ask where he's at um now you also said that uh when i was on social media so you've just given up social media i've got people who run my [ __ ] for me but i much like booze and all that [ __ ] you know i was really really into it yeah you did i [ __ ] had it actually i talked to nick nicotine today you know and uh and i was like yeah dude like i'm helplessly addicted to the validation of [ __ ] like like just ridiculously monitoring the performance of my social media posts and he's just like ah he's just laughing and he eddie said uh he's like me too but no he he's he's good about it but he said he said you know like it does fall under like your your career you know to like to see what works and what doesn't work so you do need to check it but you know this is maybe like an hour after the first hour is very telling you want to check once after an hour and then you want to check once on the second day and once on the third day and after three days it's it's run its course and i said dude that suggestion man that's like [ __ ] okay quit sugar it's terrifying you know but i mean it's the same thing i got off of it ten months ago i deactivated my account just because it was just too much and then i got a thing saying oh my password was compromised and i logged back on and i and i to change my password and i was looking at it and i'm like what the [ __ ] i don't even want to go back on you know like i'm like i'm thinking about just deleting the whole thing because it doesn't make it doesn't make sense for me i mean i think for you guys like you could promote your tour you can do this but like every cool photo that i've taken i've sent to like my family or my bros anyway i don't need random people dude i i don't want to [ __ ] keep corey forever but i'd be like uh speaking about books right like are you a new york times bestselling author multiple times over yeah man yeah i've written four wow um yeah it's uh like i said man [ __ ] i'm pretty pretty stoked about a lot of the stuff that i've been able to do because of slipknot you know because of my career so um i've written four books uh uh the last one wiped me out though right because it was all about politics and it was right when trump won and i like yeah i mean it was nightmarish how exhausting that process was and i just said you know and i haven't written another one since but you know what's exhausting now so what's exhausting now is focus what's exactly sorry i just rudely interrupted but i said you know what's exhausting now is trying to watch saturday night live the trump's out of office they got nothing and they got nothing like all the ratings yeah i mean [ __ ] dude like he really is like noticeably like [ __ ] we're sorely missing donald trump is he still off twitter i'm dude he's banned for life for everything but now one of the other form another one of your four books was just the first one i did the first one i wrote was about the seven deadly sins and how to me those aren't sins they're human traits you know that's something that things that we just all experience and there are bigger and worse things that could be looked at as sin so okay and it's just honestly it's just a way for me to kind of dissipate and then uh kind of go up on tangents and tell stories about all the weird [ __ ] that i've done in my life the second one was about the supernatural yeah that's when i was gonna ask about the spirits yeah man yeah i uh you know i just it's just something that i've had experiences with my whole life and not being a religious person or a specifically atheist right right very much so i it was it was me trying to figure out something to to to explain it you know because i know everybody's explanations never made any [ __ ] sense to me so that was me trying to work out in my own head what this phenomena was and then just kind of you know and doing that has helped me in a lot of really you know cool ways you know like i don't i don't really get freaked out by the stuff anymore i just i just kind of you know process it you know you deal with it it's boring because it's so weird and it's it's frightening but because it's so weird but once you get to the point you've wrapped your head around what it is you can process it you can deal with it you know and then the third just me bitching because i'm an old man and i don't understand the world dude's so great dude i'm working on my second book right now and i don't know it's uh my personal take on middle age and and oh oh god right okay so like sort of like life life lessons and how to sort of help other people prepare for and make it through middle age self-help author i mean sort of it's it's a [ __ ] crazy book it's uh so um did you do your own audiobooks did you yeah and it's a [ __ ] boring process like the worst it's the one thing that i would never ever want to do and it was my own idea and i cursed myself to this [ __ ] day about it like it's just for like wiping my ass with four days of my life five hours at a time yeah oh no is there a particular way that you'd like to promote the books like for me uh if you buy my books from stevo.com every copy is hand signed you know like i ought to go so that's my way of kind of selling my own books yeah no i you know what i i just kind of you know go find it and buy it where you can you know like you know [ __ ] that they don't have any cory taylor books in the airports and they'll stalk them you know because that's that was how i knew i made it i found one book in an airport and i went yes [Laughter] you know that was my thing des moines airport somebody just left it there i i love it do you have a preferred way that people can consume the music from your three bands uh i mean obviously i'm gonna say you know the old school way you know buy the album you know look at the artwork read the lyrics you know kind of do whatever but i'm also you know um you know it's it's kind of weird it's kind of hard because in this day and age it's really hard to know which one which which ones of the [ __ ] streaming services actually compensate the artists that they're ripping off so right i mean the label people would probably know it's more important for me to people listen to the music right you know like at this point i've kind of made peace with the fact that their various services were just kind of screwing us and until the legislation is actually enforced which they passed under trump that they couldn't [ __ ] believe they'll keep you know charging is that at that rate but they've appealed that legislation i don't think the appeals will actually go through they will raise the rates and musicians will be able to make a living off their recordings again all right oh yeah lots of people [ __ ] dower [ __ ] no not at all it's okay lars dude i i remember everyone giving him so much [ __ ] because of that and he was so right yeah [ __ ] levels dude it's scary and i i wonder how many people like look back and and eat a little pro because of that you know weird yeah i think he was pretty unapologetic about it the whole time and i don't think he knew he knew he knew that this was the direction we were going man so right is there anything else we can uh get the word out about for you um i'm not sure man just everybody just use common sense and you know in the world right now everybody's excited because uh you know they're ruling out the vaccination and numbers are going up every day which is bad but we're also seeing spikes and infections and and you know cover diagnosis and it's it's it should be noted that there is a certain grace period after you get vaccinated that you're still you know kind of open right the the you know the variance and whatnot so everybody just be careful man wear a mask this is coming from a dude who made his [ __ ] bones on it wear a mask be smart don't give a [ __ ] about politics left right whatever be smart about it man what a good guy i ask him is there anything you want to promote and he's promoting life saving lives i'm like no what do you want to sell having said that we're a mask when you come see me on you know i love it man well [ __ ] hey dude it's been a real a real treat dude and uh you know i um i i super appreciate you and uh i can't can't wait for i think this is what this one's going to do real well man yeah this was really cool to get to talk to dude yeah man i appreciate it i'm glad i could do it hell yeah brother all right man well we'll sign off here dude and [ __ ] you have a good one all right guys ride wild man all right did i tell you was that rock and roll or what man such a good time and uh for those of you who stick around at the very end it's always just a real sense of gratitude that i have for you i want to tell you something especially because at the end of the mark cuban podcast a couple weeks ago you know on the youtube version of course you could see me trying to do some kick flips here in our editing bay and i saw some comments about people saying man you should hang it up stop skateboarding because you're really struggling with it and i just thought man you know what i'm not gonna hang up [ __ ] because i love skateboarding and i'm gonna continue to push harder i mean now in my 40s i got to work a lot harder but dude come on i'm not [ __ ] stopping and just yesterday look what i was up to at the barracks for those of you watching man it's a serious [ __ ] wall ride dude and the video that i'm making to launch my new pro model skateboard like properly [ __ ] it's badass so yeah i just wanted to give you guys a little sneak peek right there cause it's a big deal i love you dudes thanks so much yeah you

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I love Steve O.

But I didn’t like this interview. It’s like he went on Wikipedia for 5 minutes and asked the most basic questions. I also feel like he doesn’t actually know anything about Corey/SK, nor does he care about him/them, and he just got a big name guest for the benefit of his own podcast. I guess a lot of people do that, that’s business, but I dunno, it was just weird.

But I’m a 20 year maggot, maybe I’m just precious.